Please die Dumbya,,,

Ah, not sure but shouldn't you at least try and complete your review from a few days ago??? When will we get tonight's? Around Xmas!!

Johnny, where are you???

AP today released this story

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-...-friendly-fire/

SAN FRANCISCO — Army medical examiners were suspicious about the close proximity of the three bullet holes in Pat Tillman's forehead and tried without success to get authorities to investigate whether the former NFL player's death amounted to a crime, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press.

"The medical evidence did not match up with the, with the scenario as described," a doctor who examined Tillman's body after he was killed on the battlefield in Afghanistan in 2004 told investigators.

The doctors _ whose names were blacked out _ said that the bullet holes were so close together that it appeared the Army Ranger was cut down by an M-16 fired from a mere 10 yards or so away.

Ultimately, the Pentagon did conduct a criminal investigation, and asked Tillman's comrades whether he was disliked by his men and whether they had any reason to believe he was deliberately killed. The Pentagon eventually ruled that Tillman's death at the hands of his comrades was a friendly-fire accident.

The medical examiners' suspicions were outlined in 2,300 pages of testimony released to the AP this week by the Defense Department in response to a Freedom of Information Act request.

Among other information contained in the documents:

_ In his last words moments before he was killed, Tillman snapped at a panicky comrade under fire to shut up and stop "sniveling."

_ Army attorneys sent each other congratulatory e-mails for keeping criminal investigators at bay as the Army conducted an internal friendly-fire investigation that resulted in administrative, or non-criminal, punishments.

_ The three-star general who kept the truth about Tillman's death from his family and the public told investigators some 70 times that he had a bad memory and couldn't recall details of his actions.

_ No evidence at all of enemy fire was found at the scene _ no one was hit by enemy fire, nor was any government equipment struck.

The Pentagon and the Bush administration have been criticized in recent months for lying about the circumstances of Tillman's death. The military initially told the public and the Tillman family that he had been killed by enemy fire. Only weeks later did the Pentagon acknowledge he was gunned down by fellow Rangers.

With questions lingering about how high in the Bush administration the deception reached, Congress is preparing for yet another hearing next week.

The Pentagon is separately preparing a new round of punishments, including a stinging demotion of retired Lt. Gen. Philip R. Kensinger Jr., 60, according to military officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because the punishments under consideration have not been made public.

In more than four hours of questioning by the Pentagon inspector general's office in December 2006, Kensinger repeatedly contradicted other officers' testimony, and sometimes his own. He said on some 70 occasions that he did not recall something.

At one point, he said: "You've got me really scared about my brain right now. I'm really having a problem."

Tillman's mother, Mary Tillman, who has long suggested that her son was deliberately killed by his comrades, said she is still looking for answers and looks forward to the congressional hearings next week.

"Nothing is going to bring Pat back. It's about justice for Pat and justice for other soldiers. The nation has been deceived," she said.

The documents show that a doctor who autopsied Tillman's body was suspicious of the three gunshot wounds to the forehead. The doctor said he took the unusual step of calling the Army's Human Resources Command and was rebuffed. He then asked an official at the Army's Criminal Investigation Division if the CID would consider opening a criminal case.

"He said he talked to his higher headquarters and they had said no," the doctor testified.

Also according to the documents, investigators pressed officers and soldiers on a question Mrs. Tillman has been asking all along.

"Have you, at any time since this incident occurred back on April 22, 2004, have you ever received any information even rumor that Cpl. Tillman was killed by anybody within his own unit intentionally?" an investigator asked then-Capt. Richard Scott.

Scott, and others who were asked, said they were certain the shooting was accidental.

Investigators also asked soldiers and commanders whether Tillman was disliked, whether anyone was jealous of his celebrity, or if he was considered arrogant. They said Tillman was respected, admired and well-liked.

The documents also shed new light on Tillman's last moments.

It has been widely reported by the AP and others that Spc. Bryan O'Neal, who was at Tillman's side as he was killed, told investigators that Tillman was waving his arms shouting "Cease fire, friendlies, I am Pat (expletive) Tillman, damn it!" again and again.

But the latest documents give a different account from a chaplain who debriefed the entire unit days after Tillman was killed.

The chaplain said that O'Neal told him he was hugging the ground at Tillman's side, "crying out to God, help us. And Tillman says to him, `Would you shut your (expletive) mouth? God's not going to help you; you need to do something for yourself, you sniveling ..."

We kill our own soldiers now.. When does a real hero turn the gun around.

Bob,,, That is not an easy accomplishment, however once it comes out that Tillman was murdered I hope they take the soldiers involved and shoot all of them in the head.

His attacks on O'Reilly are stale
His producer should be in jail
His "I'm neutral" spew
With no opposing view
That' why Olby is destined to fail
(again)

I guess killing a soldier who was against the war in Iraq is OK by them. I mean he had a telephone call planned with Noam Chomsky and was reportedly about to speak out against the war. The American military is the biggest hinderance to a free world.

Katey are you unable
To get out of your stable
You are a rightwing witch
And a dumbassed bitch
Now put dinner on the table

"I can count them [foreign fighters] as a total I have engaged, dead or alive, in the 10 months I've been here on one hand," says Col. David Sutherland, the U.S. commander of coalition forces in the hotly contested area of Diyala province, an insurgent stronghold region some 35 miles northeast of Baghdad. There, Sutherland says, those involved in al Qaeda are largely dispossessed locals, not jihadists who have come from elsewhere. "The recruiting program is [that] al Qaeda may send five or eight individuals into a village. They recruit from those who have no power base, no place in society," including, he adds, former male prostitutes and the mentally ill."

http://www.rojname.com/index.kurd?nuce=209120

Posted by: Sir Loin of Beef at July 26, 2007 8:09 PM

"once it comes out that Tillman was murdered I hope they take the soldiers involved and shoot all of them in the head."

I don't!

- What I hope is that we will finally wake up to who is really to blame for creating this travesty that placed all these courageous young Americans in impossible situations in the first place.

- I hope is that we, as a nation will begin to understand that atrocities will always occur in war...most of which we will never hear about.

- I hope we will finally learn the lesson Vietnam SHOULD have taught us as a nation: That we simply cannot and should not attempt to police the world.

- Maybe we will finally learn that war should never be even contemplated except as an absolute last resort.....We obviously came nowhere near clearing that bar with regards to Iraq.

- The blame needs to be placed squarely where it belongs: On a trigger happy administration that was hell bent on taking us to war....damned the facts or realities!

Nice catch re: Coulter's "outing" of the Republican party's public relations arm - aka "Fasces News" (WPW). Who would know better than he would?

Wow. The only pro-OW posters to post so far, is a pathetic guy named Paul begging for johnny (man-crush?) and another dude who posts anti-Olbermann limmericks under a pseudonym that attempts to mock KO's girlfriend.

This must be where the finest conservative minds come to debate the big issues of the day!

No doubt, Mike. Command responsibility is the name of the game.

The Tillman killing has stunk from day one - the false comic-book story fed to the press; the revelation that Tillman was a bitter critic of the war, and was keeping his mouth shut untill he was discharged (the one thing O'Liely is right about is that Tillman had been planning some sort of collaboration with Noam Chomsky - I wonder when anyone is going to have HIM on to talk about this?); the wierd fact that Tillman's uniform and armor were removed and burnt on the scene- WTF?

As Olbermann state, the slow trickle of truth has only gotten uglier and uglier as time goes on.

Wow. The only pro-OW posters to post so far, is a pathetic guy named Paul begging for johnny (man-crush?) and another dude who posts anti-Olbermann limmericks under a pseudonym that attempts to mock KO's girlfriend.

This must be where the finest conservative minds come to debate the big issues of the day!

Posted by: at July 26, 2007 10:40 PM

They hide deep when news gets this bad.

Speaking of WPITW, Oralmann gleefully reported that the Secret Service was investigating BOR's website for the "threat" on Hillary's life, and didn't even mention that it was a far-left smear site that prompted them to.

We all know that the evil George Bush HIMSELF purposely covered up the facts of Tillman's death. And we all know that the evil George Bush is responsible for hurricane's, wars, cancer, sore throats, the common cold, acne, ingrown toe nails, sports losses, car crashes, stock market losses, and whatever else the cut and run defeat and retreat libs dream up in their cowardly brains!!

Lib dems cower to Johnny D!!!

- In a perfect world, we would see the likes of William Krystal of the Weekly Standard, who rabidly pushed for this war, crying on the front lines in Iraq in 120 degree heat....wondering if he will even see tomorrow.

- In a perfect world, the Paul Wolfowitz's of the world would be cowering beside true patriots like Pat Tillman begging to be saved by the lord.

- A perfect world would have the Dick Cheney's of the world sitting there with two legs blown off patently waiting for help that never arrives from the VA, while his family risks losing everything they own to help them pick up whatever meager pieces of their lives might still be retrievable.

- As for the GWB's of the world?.....Well, never mind, .....this isn't a perfect world!

...>> aka "Fasces News"....

Now they are rumor-mongering that Tillman was murdered. Democrats/Liberals would be far more convincing if they weren't such creepy, hateful, lying bastards.

The general drift of the posts here seem to indicate that some think Pat Tillman's death was part of a deep dark unprecedented in US history conspiracy.

Someone or multiple someones, would you please lay out coherent theories of this unprecedented conspiracy that you have been talking about as if the man had been murdered. Who do you think/believe ordered his murder or murdered him. If 2300 pages of info were released surely there should be something there.

No histrionics, please. Just your perceptions and the citations to back it up.

Grammie

Chicken Blogger No 1, I asked for a coherent theory of the "deep dark unprecedented in US history conspiracy." and your answer is :

"Look at the old one minimizing the whole sordid Tillman affair.

With no (sic)* conspiracy aside, it's a dark moment in our country's history"

*I assume you meant 'With conspiracies aside'.

I don't dispute that I am old. You got that right.

However, personal insults are not an answer.

Care to try your hand at a coherent theory?

Grammie

Chicken Blogger/O'Mengele, I read it the first time you posted it.

Grammie

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George Bush had the Free Masons kill Pat Tillman. That was their next task after they flew the plannes into the World Trade Center.

Chicken Bloggers/O'Mengele/Whatizname,Nom du Jour, I asked a question.

All the histrionics aside the answer is that you believe he was murdered.

By who and/or ordered by whom?

What is your considered opinion about the Rosenbergs and Alger Hiss?

Grammie

Necon deer hunters prefer clustered shots,
Can a patriot's murder be "friendly?" they hope not.
Tillman's a hero, we already knew that,
Even before the White House redrew facts.
How shocking how easy blind justice is blocked.

"no histrionics, please, just your perceptions and citations to back it up."

Noooo! Grammie certainly doesn't believe in 'histrionics'!.....That is, Unless you question her humanity at her own insistance, or if you jokingly imply she might be a groupee. Then you simply won't believe the personal histrionics she can emit in response!

Just the facts please?

Fact: There was a Tillman cover up.

Fact: We were told there were WMD. We went to war over that premise.....There were no WMD!

Fact: They repeatedly implied Saddam was behind 911. He wasn't!

Fact: They were told by one of their top generals that far more troops would be needed. That general was fired for speaking the truth.

Fact: The commander in Chief had no working understanding of Middle Eastern culture, heretage, rivalries, or religion...even as he 'planned' an unnecessary occupation and invasion with no honest justification.

Fact: I could go on and on!

Fact: You defend the indefensible!

Is it a surprise that the Factor doesn't have the balls to admit this Tillman incident makes the Bush Ad look worse than it ever has ?

Posted by: at July 27, 2007 12:31 AM

How exactly? Tillman died in a horrible accident that unfortunately happens a lot in war. The people who tried to cover it up are being punished. Story over. Take off your tin foil hat and stop trying to disgrace Pat Tillman.

If a Democratic Administration was responsible for this Tillman debacle( they wouldn't),
the wingnuts would be screaming from the rafters.

This is just another prime example that exposes their hypocrisy.

You know it's true too.
Posted by: Why do you care what my name is at July 27, 2007 12:13 AM

Posted by: at July 27, 2007 12:43 AM

No actually the Democrats drive tanks into buildings and burn children alive and try to cover it up ( see Janet Reno).

Another group of FACTS for you Grammie:

Had there been no unjustified invasion, there would also have been no Abu Garab, Haditha, or Tillman coverup.....and nearly 4000 Americans would be alive today that unfortunately....are not....and tens of thousands more would be whole today, instead of half!

And the world would be a better place.

Another group of FACTS for you Grammie:

Had there been no unjustified invasion, there would also have been no Abu Garab, Haditha, or Tillman coverup.....and nearly 4000 Americans would be alive today that unfortunately....are not....and tens of thousands more would be whole today, instead of half!

And the world would be a better place.

Posted by: Mike at July 27, 2007 12:50 AM

Yes and Sadam would still have his rape rooms open and his mass graves filled.

mike, guess you haven't heard. Haditha didn't happen. I guess Olbermahn forgot to tell you that.

No actually the Democrats drive tanks into buildings and burn children alive and try to cover it up ( see Janet Reno).

Posted by: The Factor at July 27, 2007 12:50 AM

Don't forget Ruby Ridge.......

Funny thing is that the Factor still doesn't get why he will never be taken seriously.

Posted by: Why do you care what my name is at July 27, 2007 12:53 AM

Yes, my goal in life is to be taken seriously by some zombie who march over here from the Daily Kos because he herd is hero Olbermann was being trashed.

Chicken loggers/O'Mengele/Whatizname,Nom du Jour, this is your answer to the question was he murdered and who ordered his murder:

"It's not disputed that his own men shot Pat.
I don't think it was ordered, but who knows."

At last, finally, we are are on the same page of what constitutes murder as opposed to other actions that cause someones death that is not murder.

Have you ever given a moments thought to the unfortunate soldier/soldiers who were responsible for the friendly fire that killed Pat Tillman.

Or are they expendable as long as they can be used as a cudgel against those who you disagree with?

As I first said, lets leave the histrionics aside.

Grammie

"yes, and Saddam would still have his rape rooms open and his mass graves filled"

And so YOU think that somehow justifies the price we have paid? Some evils are best left alone lest we create a far greater evil, ... and, we are NOT the world's damned policeman!

Just a couple of days ago, a blithering idiot named David Bauder working for the Associated (with terrorists) Press, alleged, with no evidence to support said allegation, that Keith Olbermoronn "dominated" the ratings at 8 p.m. The latest humiliating ratings for Keith "Barely Third Place" Olbermoronn:

Wednesday, July 26, 2007

8PM - P2+ (25-54)

O'Reilly Factor - 2,334,000 viewers (568,000)
Paula Zahn - 444,000 viewers (113,000)
Fast Money - 179,000 viewers (52,000)
Nancy Grace - 593,000 viewers (236,000)
Meltdown w/ Olbermoronn - 561,000 viewers (128,000)

The point is how this incident was used by the Bush Administration for a commercial to drum up support for this war.

Now THAT's the issue YOU won't deal with.

Posted by: Why do you care what my name is at July 27, 2007 12:39 AM

A prime example of BDS. It's Bush, Its Bush, Bush did it, Bush did it! He lied, He lied!

Mike must be angry because one of his "innocent freedom fighter" friends was let out of Gitmo and blew himself up in a crowd in Pakistan. Mike wanted him to sue the U.S. government first.

"It's Bush, It's Bush, Bush did it, Bush did it! He lied, He lied!"

Yea..............He LIED!

Pat Tillman died in Afghanistan.

Anyone care to tell me why they believe that the Battle of Afghanistan was an unnecessary action by the US?

Grammie

Mike must be angry because one of his "innocent freedon fighter" friends was let out of Gitmo and blew himself up in a crowd in Pakistan. Mike wanted him to sue the U.S. government first."

No, I'm mostly angry because so many intransigent deniers such as yourself continue to plant your heels in the mud, cover your ears, and yell YAH YAH YAH in the face of overwhelming evidence concerning reality.

Pat Tillman died in Afghanistan.

Anyone care to tell me why they believe that the Battle of Afghanistan was an unnecessary action by the US?

Grammie

Posted by: Janet Hawkins at July 27, 2007 1:06 AM

That's funnie Grammie. I didn't even notice that these left wing morons thought he died in Iraq. How did Iraq cause his death if he died in Afghanistan?

My mistake Grammie...concerning Tillman, and afghanistan!

How the rational thinkers among us wish we had a president who could bring himself to make a statement like that?

Please post a valid source for this lie.
You can't.
So shut the fuck up.

Posted by: Why do you care what my name is at July 27, 2007 12:59 AM

Her you go, you classy little liberal Olbermahn lovin I can't even say the rest of what I want to say.......I'm sure you will discount the site as invalid or "right wing" but here it is.

http://www.soldiersperspective.us/?p=1002

Mike,

We were not told by Bush that Saddam was behind 911. That is a lie. But now millions of leftists say that Bush was behind 911, instead.

Saddam said that Saddam had WMD's. He did not comply with the UN Security Council Resolutions on WMD's. He had WMD's before. Saddam was the WMD. Had Saddam fully complied with the UN Resolutions he would still be in power today.

It is true that there were too few troops in Iraq. So lets bring some more in right now to take care of business.

There was a coverup of the Pat Tillman death. Everyone who participated in the coverup should be tarred and feathered, if not a lot worse.

The loons who are now stating that Tillman was murdered are jumping the shark, not for the first time. They are the same ones who are saying thing like "911 was the first time that fire ever melted steel".

Chicken Bloggers/O'Mengele/Whatizname/Nom du Jour, you have expended a fair amount of time and rhetoric/invective attacking me but precious little effort backing up your claims.

I have seen references to the Bush ads about Pat Tillman here tonight. I must have missed them. I would appreciate any citations to these ads.

Grammie

Rico, long time since I've seen you here.

Welcome back. Hope you stay around.

Grammie

"It is true that there are too few troops in Iraq. So lets bring in some more right now to take care of business."

WHERE are you going to get them Rico? Everyone knows that trained and equipped troops are already over-extended, and most have been over-deployed.

Where's all the extra armor going to come from even if we find the troops. How are we going to pay for the thousands and thousands of extra up-armored vehicles that will be needed when we are already fighting this war on credit?

Sorry, but this just isn't the kind of mistake in which we have the option of backing up and doing it again the 'right' way.

But back to my original point: The 'right' way would have been not doing it at all!

By the way Rico, as late as the 2004 elections, it was widely reported that over 50% of the American People still believed Saddam was involved in 911. Where did they get this 'information'? What you may call masterful deception, I call a lie.

Chicken Bloggers/O'Mengele/Whatizname/Nom du Jour, you said:

"It's positively amazing how Grammie always asks to be educated on well covered news stories."

Does this mean you that you don't have any citations to this 'well covered news story' of ads?

Grammie

Chicken Bloggers/O'Mengele/Whatizname/Nom du Jour, you said:

"It's positively amazing how Grammie always asks to be educated on well covered news stories."

Does this mean you that you don't have any citations to this 'well covered news story' of ads?

Grammie

Please post a valid source for this lie.
You can't.
So shut the fuck up.

Posted by: biggest loon on the web at July 27, 2007 12:59 AM

Who's asking to be educated? That would be you, prick.

Another question that the right wingers won't touch.
Why was the Pat Tillman incident covered up ?

Because he found out that I planned 9/11 and he had to be killed stupid. Tillman found my super secret oil drilling company in Afghanistan. As a former member of skull and bones, Tillman new the secret code word to get into the Afghanistan base camp. There he learned of my plan to destroy the WTC. KAPLAAAAAAA!!!!!!

Rico 1:16 AM: "but now millions of leftists say Bush was behind 911, instead"

Eart to Rico: It's not just 'Leftist' who are making that claim! In fact, the only two individuals I know personally who make that claim are both fundamentalist Christians, who are EXTREMELY conservative in every way imaginable. One of them happens to be my sister!

In fact, the arguments between me and her can get kind of wierd....if you can imagine ME being in the position of having to defend George Bush!

No Rico, don't fool yourself into believing the 911 conspiratists are all 'leftists', because trust me, that is an outright lie!

But I understand that it's always nice to believe all the nuts are on the OTHER side!

"yes, and Saddam would still have his rape rooms open and his mass graves filled"

This Administration would certainly know this to be true, since they're the ones who gave the means to Saddam and looked the other way while he was using them.

Now, that's character!

O'Reilly Factor - 2,334,000 viewers (568,000)
Paula Zahn - 444,000 viewers (113,000)
Fast Money - 179,000 viewers (52,000)
Nancy Grace - 593,000 viewers (236,000)
Meltdown w/ Olbermoronn - 561,000 viewers (128,000)

Posted by: Tom at July 27, 2007 1:01 AM

Hopefully there was at least 2.3 million viewers tonight to see O'Reilly cut Jane Hall's mic when she was explaining how O'Reilly's website does the same thing the Daily Kos does, making the infamous deplorable BO a first rate hypocrite.

Funny, I've never seen him cut the mic of a conservative guest.

That's Fox's brand of 'Fair and Balanced':

Invite the liberal on, then cut their mic when they say something you don't like.

Nice.

Here we are, after 7 years of Bush W.

It's amazing that there can still exist something like this particular place, where a majority of protagonists still seems to believe that Bush and the Administration fulfilled their promise from back in the the day when they promised to "restore honor and dignity to the White House".

I'm going to visit Olbermannwatch once a week until Nov '08, because it's fascinating to see what bizarre perception of reality some die-hard nuts are apparantly able to develop, ignoring the truth.
The truth is that Bush's disapproval ratings are going where no rating has gone before.

Also... the truth is not really "honor and dignity", is it?

Keep digging, it's fascinating!

- --- - --- - --- - --- -

don't fool yourself into believing the 911 conspiratists are all 'leftists'
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You are absolutely correct in this regard, Mike.

Virtually all conspiracy theories of the last two (2) centuries are of the RW, by the RW and for the RW. In our time alone, Roosevelt Starting WWII, the Rosenbergs, Communist Agitators & the Civil Rights Movement, Communist Agitators & the Anti (Vietnam) War Movement, Waco, Ruby Ridge, 9/11, the list could go on, are products and fodder of RW minds.

The true home of the RW is historically the fringe. Without on-going mythological conspiracies they cannot explain why they are consigned to and keep returning to the fringe. Twice since WWII, the RW has tried to legitimize itself, the McCarthy era and the post-Reagan Cheney/Rove legitimacy surge or grab. Both efforts were, in remarkably short order, rejected and repulsed by the American mainstream. We are in the rabid phase of Cheney/Rove radicalism, its tormented death. It is loud and ugly as the RW tries to hold on in vain to what they never actually had in the first place, legitimacy. The genesis of a site such as this reflects this mentality. After all, the concept and the purpose are undeniably negative: an attack upon the livlihood of one rather insignificant person who, for reasons unclear to me, seems to threaten the RW. What has happened, however, is that the mainstream has caused this site to drift from the concept to something more reflective of the mainstream of true American political and social thought. It remains predominantly conservative and will, but the intersection between conservative thought and RW radicalism is a rather small area. So, what you see are coughs and fits, largely in vain, to keep this site from finding its natural position, to the right of, but still in the mainstream.

Virtually every 9/11 conspiracy theorist I have heard is of the black helicopter flying into undeground hangar mentality. In other words, a RW'er. The whole RW thrust is anti-government, yet the RW decided to hitch a ride to legitimacy on a bus driven by an almost unparalleled government expansionist, George W. Bush. No wonder the ride has proven bumpy.

I once heard Ronald Reagan, Jr., speaking of the RW in general, and fundamentalist Christians in particular, say the Republican party hurt itself by offering these elements a comfortable home, by making them welfare recipients of Republican largesse. Why? Nothing is ever enough. The pasta has to have not only the sauce, but cheese, more garlic, dried peppers, olives. The demands are insatiable.

So, the relationship between the RW and the Republican party was more parasitic than symbiotic. The RW loses nothing. Its grab for legitimacy was unsuccessful, so it skulks back to the corner, the fringe. The Republican party, however, is likely damaged for a political generation. So, they now scream, too, although their demise was born of their own greed, a very human condition not unique to them.

As America and, indeed the Republican party washes away the stench of RW radicalism, we have a post-partem rage. "9/11 was the ticket to RW legitimacy. The RW is once again illegitimate. Those opposed to the RW must have stolen 9/11 by making it seem illigitimate." That seems to be the RW thesis or apology. It is as offensive as the RW itself, for 9/11 was an American, not a RW experience. Because it was exploited by the RW, they assume everyone is exploiting it in some fashion and now exploiting it more effectively than they. The stench is simply desperation as the RW sees itelf consigned to yet another half century of marginalization and irrelevancy. The RW needs a good conspiracy theory to satisfy its tormented soul.

The Royalfraud uses one person's opinion on Haditha posted by: nobody gives a shit

Just one, loser? Here's another. There's 1036 more! Lowlife.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2006/06/haditha_is_mcgirk_the_new_mary.html

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/06/murtha-about-to-get-pummeled-with.html

Paul, et. al., I drink too much for damn Olby. It sets me back days. Arghhhhhh I apologize. I work through the reviews for hours because I want to catch everything he says and then I fall asleep. bleh

Testimony also showed terrorists in strongholds such as Haditha had set up bases in a school, a mosque, and a hospital to be used to attack U.S. forces, and documentation showed that one terrorist suspected in the Haditha battle was tracked by an aerial drone to another house, from which he emerged a short time later holding a baby.

The tragedy, Rooney said, is that Chessani has been sidelined from his work in the war against terror by the allegations, at a time when his leadership could be used well in the battle.

"The terrorists are laughing in their caves," Rooney said. "The enemy knows our rules of engagement as well as we do. They know how to use propaganda better than we do. The whole trial is the result of propaganda."

Chessani is described by fellow officers as a focused, hands-on commander who followed the Law of War and was sympathetic to the plight of innocent Iraqis, the Law Center said. He is a committed Christian with a wife and five children, and has served his nation honorably for more than 19 years with tours of duty in Panama, the first Persian Gulf War and three tours in Iraq.

Thomas More Law Center officials are still raising funds for their battles on Chessani's behalf. They say the reasonable costs of the case – to date – have reached about $325,000 and almost $200,000 has been donated for the cause. A big bump in support came when radio talk-show host Michael Savage added his voice to those concerned about justice.

On his website, he's linked a Charlotte Conservative News report detailing how the Time article was based on information from known insurgents.

Writer Michael Kraft said the Time sources "were known insurgent propagandists and it was [that report] that created the Haditha massacre hoax."

Rooney said not only had Savage personally contributed money but encouraged his audience to do so, adding significantly to the resources available.

Savage told his listening audience he would devote whatever time and resources are necessary to clearing Chessani and then pursuing those who have "persecuted" him. He pledged to hold a fund-raiser for the Chessani family once he is cleared.

halleluiah, clucker. halleluiah.

Virtually all conspiracy theories of the last two (2) centuries are of the RW, by the RW and for the RW. In our time alone, Roosevelt Starting WWII, the Rosenbergs, Communist Agitators & the Civil Rights Movement, Communist Agitators & the Anti (Vietnam) War Movement, Waco, Ruby Ridge, 9/11, the list could go on, are products and fodder of RW minds.

Posted by: Clucker at July 27, 2007 2:31 AM

Anybody else remember the October Surprise Theory?

The theory that the Reagan Administration developed and introduced HIV into the gay and IV drug using population

The theory that the Reagan and Bush Administration developed crack cocaine and introduced into the miniority and/or low income population in order to reduce their numbers.

The theory that President Bush and the CIA ran drugs from Columbia through Mena, Arkansas (President Clinton would have had to play a role in the one).

The original "wag the dog" theory that Reagan took Manuel Noriega into custody in order to detract from the terrorist attack on a U.S. base in Lebanon.

That "rightwing" Oliver Stone and his conspiracy theories

It's called Friendly Fire incidents and the fog of war and it's been going on a long time. Tilmann's death would hardly be the first as a result of Friendly Fire, and yes, the military has a long (and shameful) history of trying to cover them up. The loons act like this was the first time this has ever happened in the history of the United States and any war we've ever been a part of. It's not. It's tragic, shameful, and all of that but it's not unique to this war.

Posted by BillO'Pussy:

"Please die Dumbya,,,"

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Why don't you grow a set of nads and post what you really feel chicken shit. But, wait, this is the boy that is going to piss on Murdoch's grave. What a man you are? Typical liberal candy ass, all talk and no bark, just like Mike, AAP, codas, baldheadedrat, sir lair.......

Dailykos is drafting you into their army that they are threatening to open a can of whip ass. Assuming they are talking about the 35% that support GW. To borrow a phrase from the movie 'Souther Comfort"...."!0 NAtional Guardsmen and one swamp rat, my odds are on the swamp rat".

Well, were waiting.

Chciken shits.

Whines Chicken Clucker:

"Virtually all conspiracy theories of the last two (2) centuries are of the RW, by the RW and for the RW. In our time alone, Roosevelt Starting WWII, the Rosenbergs, Communist Agitators & the Civil Rights Movement, Communist Agitators & the Anti (Vietnam) War Movement, Waco, Ruby Ridge, 9/11, the list could go on, are products and fodder of RW minds."

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You are a dumbass. Only a dumbass liberal judges history especially some chicken shit like you sitting in the safety and comfort of your livingroom chair. You've never served in the military and