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As only the Olbyloons can, they are just full of theories about why Dan Patrick is really leaving ESPN.
I present to you the unedited remarks of Keith's biggest fan: Orinenglish/BerryBush/Kathy/Tru, straight from the wacky state of Ohio where all of Keith's craziest fans come from:
Wow. Just when people were doubting he had something big to announce. It was obvious from the start of his show today that he was going to announce his departure. When, and for what, if anything, was still open. And the " for what" part still is.Catalyst? Funny you should ask what the catalyst was, Kim. Because I get the funniest feeling that once again, somewhere back in the bowels of The Worldwide Leader, someone is pounding a fist and saying "That Damn Olbermann! I KNEW letting him in the back door was a mistake." Why? Not because I think Keith necessarily dropped any hints in Dan's ear that he should leave. But because I find myself wondering exactly how much Dan, the Loyal Company Man, the man who could have retired from ESPN with a gold watch if he wanted to, found himself reexamining his life merely by being once again in regular contact with Keith at a time when Keith was achieving unprecedented success in his life after ESPN. When Keith first left, the morality tale seemed obvious. It was the story of the Prodigal Son, who was going to abandon his "family" out of some vague sense of discontent, wander the world, try to find a better life, squander his talents and skills, and most likely end up either crawling back home on hands and knees begging to be taken back, or end up coming to no decent end. Meanwhile, Dan, the Good Son, was going to stay home and continue to tend the family farm and keep everyone, including himself, happy. But how did that story really end, anyway? As Keith peregrinated from MSNBC to Fox and out again to part-time work at CNN and eventually back to MSNBC on a fairly low-rated, unhyped show, there was no reason to assume that he was suddenly going to taste as much, if not more, success than he did at the zenith of his powers cohosting SportsCenter with Dan. But in the past year or so, things started to gel for Keith in a whole new way. Suddenly his ratings were up, his praises were being sung, he was the topic of one news article after another, and he was re-signing with MSNBC to the tune of more money and even more exposure.
My, you'd almost think that Ms. Orinenglish/Tru/Kathy/BerryBush had a degree or six in psychology wouldn't you? She must be that Psych chick who used to run the QT galpal forum she seems such an expert at psychoanalyzing Mr. Patrick doesn't she? Of course, it's fairly clearly she's absolutely ignorant where the term "success" is concerned--who defines success as coming in third in the all-important key-demo? Who would define success as never having, not even once, beat Fox News overall or in the key-demo over the course of four years on the air? But facts never get in the way of the Olbyloons where their beloved Olby is concerned. Back to Orinenglish/Tru/BerryBush/Kathy/Psych:
And it all happened while Dan Patrick, loyal water carrier for the same boss for forever, sat by and watched. I wonder how much the daily drip, drip, drip of information and publicity about the Man Who Was Saving the Democracy caused Dan to rethink his own career. Whether or not he didn't feel just like the Good Son did when the Prodigal Son returned and Dad killed the fatted calf for him. Only in this version of the story, the prodigal didn't return as a desperate wretch, but as a surprising success. It's easy to imagine Dan, a man in midlife who had become comfortable, but maybe a little too comfortable, with his job, asking himself "Is this all there is?" "Are there other things I can do?" And How am I ever going to find out if I don't step out of my comfort zone and step off a cliff like Keith did?"
It's apparently very easy for Orinenglish/Kathy/Tru/BerryBush/Tru to imagine quite a lot isn't it? Why it's almost like she's Dan's best friend (and part-time psychoanalyst)! Or maybe instead of hearing voices in her head she thinks that she IS the voice inside of Dan Patrick's head.
Keith may not have said a word to Dan to provoke any of this. But I wouldn't be at all surprised if, when these thoughts ran through Dan's head, he didn't first share them with Keith. Maybe even before admitting them to his own wife.
If Dan is discussing career matters with Keith before his wife or his agent, I hope that Patrick spends at least some of his new found time in marriage counseling and seeking our a new agent!
What if I do what you did, Keith? What if I decide to take the chance? Am I being an idiot, throwing away everything I've built up over 18 years? Or is it worth it, just so I find out what could have been if I hadn't stayed safe? And if I do it, what do I say when people come up to me and yell "You idiot, why on earth did you quit every man’s dream job?" It's tough for anyone, especially a man with a wife and children who count on him, to make a midlife job or employer change. It's even tougher when he's worked for so long in the same place. And tougher yet when he's not being forced into it, but choosing it, so that everyone questions his sanity. And tougher still when he doesn't even have a new job lined up. Being Dan Patrick probably doesn’t make it a whole lot easier, famous name and likely financial cushion aside.
What would Keith do? Is the new mantra of the radical left? Or just everyday life for the Olbyloons? And yes Kathy/Orienenglish/Tru/BerryBush/Psych: I'm just so sure that a laid-off factory worker would agree with you that Dan Patrick's plight is so much tougher.
But I have faith in Dan. He's got talent, he's got likability, he's got what it takes and he can take it many places. I could see him hosting his own syndicated talk show, for example, and not just on sports. Or even a network show. Men and women would watch him. I think his opportunities are wide open. Now he won't have to be nagged by the question "What if?" anymore. And wherever he goes, whatever he does, he’ll have the comfort of knowing that when he does so, he'll do it with the full support of a guy who knows exactly what it’s like to hear the words "You CHOSE to leave ESPN? Why????" God bless ya, Dan. I'll be watching to see what happens.
Well, just so long as Orinenglish/BerryBush/Kathy/Tru/Psych has faith in Dan's career choices, I'm sure he'll be fine! And yes, Keith Olbermann has been a career model for many. Why I'm sure that aspiring broadcasters want to be just like Keith, fired and washed up and out from how many networks is it? ESPN, Fox Sports, MSNBC (the first time), and how many local stations? And so many people when getting their own show on a network aspire to being THIRD in the all-important key-demo! For the record, since leaving ESPN television, Dan Patrick has been the host of ABC's basketball coverage including the NBA playoffs and finals. Dan made it to the broadcast network level years before Olbermann did but of course, in this elaborate (and we do mean elaborate) Olbyloon scenario, it's Olby-won who is dispensing career advice to the hapless Dan Patrick. Only in Olbyworld kiddies, only in Olbyworld!
Another loonatic theory:
I agree with Orinenglish on this. All day I was thinking "I bet KO influenced this", even if not intentionally. I also thought of two additional possibilities. First, that Keith had told Dan he could not do the Big Show come the fall once he starts the football gig and that influenced Dan that this was a good time to end the show, and also that possibly Keith has some connections outside of sports (maybe MSNBC but also other places) that Dan has spoken with so DP knows he is marketable and was more secure in making the leap.
Yes, Dan Patrick has only been doing the radio show since 1999, I'm just so sure that he can't possible begin to even think of doing a show without Olbermann!
Recently on the show, Keith DID gently needle Dan about having had only one employer his whole life. I wondered at the time where that came from. They must have been talking about it behind the scenes, as Dan bounced the pros and cons of leaving or staying off his friend. Keith's success seemed to fuel the friendly competition theyve always had going.
Wow--seems Olbermann forgets that Patrick worked at CNN before he went to ESPN and had jobs in local radio and television prior to that. Olbermann get a fact wrong? So if Keith can't even get his friend's career history straight, how is he supposed to be able to dispense career advice exactly? I guess the same way he dispenses career advice to Bush/Cheney and the GOP on a nightly basis, based on nothing but the voices in his head, and the advice of convicted felons like John Dean!
One thing for sure is Keith will eat this up. Olbermann's ego just loves being the catalyst for everything and anything.
Once agian, mexican patty sits at his keyboard frothing at the face to get his pre-school idiocy front and center. Now, get up off of your dirty floor and hurry up and scour the internet for another casualty in Iraq so you can post it while you dance in glee in your hovel. March on, coward!
RoyalKing.. you upset that he beat you by 10 lousy minutes ?
News Flash to the olbyloons, it was Patrick's show, not Olbermahns. I sure hope these people are in rooms with padded walls, delusional is an understatement.....
Did I hear correctly last night? Did Olbermann call the ESPN radio show, "our show"? I could swear it was called the Dan Patrick Show. It's all about the Olby...
If the (possibly planted) rumors that Dan Patrick is in line to take Imus' place on WFAN in New York is true, it ought to be fun to see how Keith could be squeezed into the show, give that Dan would no longer be on from 1-4 p.m. EDT, but would be broadcasting from 6-10 a.m. daily.
Cuts down a lot on nightlife activity for morning drive hosts everywhere, and unless Keith would be willing to do just the 9-10 a.m. hour (when most people already are at work), he's going to have a hard time being part of any new venture with Patrick without making his MSNBC show "Countdown to Bedtime".
Keith Olbermann is a fruitypants, knob-slobber. He likes little boys in their tighty whities. He likes to touch them in their no-no spots.
I think Keith Olbermann doesn't get up too early to begin with (this is the guy who admitted to sleeping through 9/11--yes, he lived in NYC at the time), so the Dan at the FAN 6-10 timeslot would definately be the end the radio duo.
I love how these loons wax biblical about Olby, their lord and savior. What a bunch of mental patients. They deserve each other.
President Dwight Eisenhower on November 8, 1954:
Now it is true that I believe this country is following a dangerous trend when it permits too great a degree of centralization of governmental functions. I oppose this--in some instances the fight is a rather desperate one. But to attain any success it is quite clear that the Federal government cannot avoid or escape responsibilities which the mass of the people firmly believe should be undertaken by it. The political processes of our country are such that if a rule of reason is not applied in this effort, we will lose everything--even to a possible and drastic change in the Constitution. This is what I mean by my constant insistence upon "moderation" in government. Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.
And we know that Dan Patrick and Eisenhower were best buds and is of course pertinent to the discussion at hand.
What "discussion at hand", Moron? You flatter yourself
"Now it is true that I believe this country is following a dangerous trend when it permits too great a degree of centralization of governmental functions"
Yeah, I think stuff like socialized medicine, the Fairness Doctrine, gun control would fall in that category. So, we can confidently say that SLOB has staked out a position against socialized medicine, the "Fairness Doctrine" and gun control.
What "discussion at hand", Moron? You flatter yourself
Posted by: Sir Loin of Beef at July 10, 2007 3:03 PM
The discussion about the "Man Who Was Saving the Democracy".
You know... the guy who's such a great writer that he writes his own fan letters....
(you asked...)
SLoB, this is not Eisenhower Watch. Typical libnut maneuver: Change the subject or toss a red herring if you don't like what you're hearing, can't argue the the issue with any credibility or just don't want to believe the truth in general. Predictable.
from the AP: A 6-year-old boy who drowned in his grandparents' half-drained pool died while saving his 3-year-old sister, family members said.
I wonder how the far left Bush haters and Olby himself will pin the blame on the president for this one.
there was a small plane crash in Orlando FL this morning, killing 5 people. I wonder how Olby and the far left haters will try to pin the blame on Bush for this one.
I never really thought Brian (at TVnewser) was THAT biased for Olbermann, but the following entry is down right creepy. To use the word "trounced" (I do not remember that used when Nancy Grace was "trouncing" Olbermann. It was Beck's first time going in the 8pm slot, Olbermann's numbers seem to have leveled off--he's been there 3, 4 years right?) BTW who would think that Beck would "take" viewers from Olbermann, if anything he'd skim from O'Reilly. Also, it is kinda creepy that the "pedator" series is NBC/MS-NBC's "bread & butter."
From TVnewser
MSNBC Tops CNN In Prime Demo For Week
MSNBC edged CNN in the 25-54 demo in primetime last week.
The cabler benefited from three hours of To Catch A Predator on July 4. And Countdown with Keith Olbermann trounced Glenn Beck's 8pm specials all week.
For the week of July 2, MSNBC delivered 201,000 demo in prime, while CNN had 193,000 and FNC had 307,000. In total viewers, MSNBC had 523,000, CNN had 616,000, and FNC had 1,176,000...
Posted by brian | 02:01 PM | Ratings
I'm suprised that TVNewser hasn't posted an alert to the Keith Olbermann "Bonds Comment" on the NBC Nightly news yet.
Not too surprising that the Loons delude themselves into thinking that Patrick's leaving his radio show was all about Olbermann. They think like Olbermann and one has little trouble imagining that KO truly thinks he was instrumental in Patrick's departure. Go back to the interview that KO did with Bill Clinton on Meltdown. First thing right out of the gate, Orange Boy shines the light on himself with his cheesy trumped up gesture of handing an envelope to Clinton and announcing the amount of his donation ("for eight houses"). Only a person with deep insecurity issues behaves in this way (obsessive jealousy fits directed towards his vastly higher rated competition also evidence his pitiful insecurities).
"Now it is true that I believe this country is following a dangerous trend when it permits too great a degree of centralization of governmental functions"
Yeah, I think stuff like socialized medicine, the Fairness Doctrine, gun control would fall in that category. So, we can confidently say that SLOB has staked out a position against socialized medicine, the "Fairness Doctrine" and gun control.
Posted by: at July 10, 2007 3:08 PM
Ouch! I may have to admit that you've caught me out there....or I could actually go on to read Ike's next sentence (also provided in my post above):
"But to attain any success it is quite clear that the Federal government cannot avoid or escape responsibilities which the mass of the people firmly believe should be undertaken by it."
...and realize that that this revered president - easily among the top ten this country has ever had - was a brazen communist by the standards of today's right wing. He was certainly more progressive than most of the Democratic frontrunners in the 2008 "horserace".
Any credible poll in this area shows that the "mass of the people" do favor a heightened government role in the very areas you mention...just wait to see the public reaction to Moore's "Sicko" as more and more people see it. Socialized Medicine may be right around the corner.
This blog has a funny "sportscenter" video which shows Mr. Olbermann's very UNathletic running abilities.
http://blogs.suburbanchicagonews.com/napersports/2007/07/so_long_danny_boy.html
I've seen more graceful running exhibitions presented by Special Olympics participants.
SLoB, you're delusional. I can't believe you are trying to Olbyspin a 53-year-old quote to suit your socialist agenda. The fact that you even think it could apply to a nation that has undergone such radical technological and social change in that time period is unreal. And please don't tell me Ike was spouting some type of universal truth for the ages. Call Mamie - she cares.
And about Sicko: People have seen it and they know that despite Moore's entertaining and humorous presentation, it is chock full of lies and distortions. That's why Moore is frustrated and lashing out at CNN and anyone else who is critical of the facts in Sicko. Sanjay Gupta generally agreed that Moore's movie addressed important health care concerns. But one small criticism sparked a Moore Moonbat Meltdown on national TV for all to laugh at. Way to go, Mikey Eagle Scout.
And SLoB: Who are the so-called masses who want socialized health care? Those who won't work to pay for it? Also, please define "credible poll". I have a feeling that you believe that the criteria for a credible poll is if its results support your moonbat agenda.
Are these the same people who imagined the conversation where Keith offered to show young Katy around NYC and take her to the Gore premiere and had no interest in dating her at all? That it was all just a nasty rumor that Jossip started about him? I think we know how their theories on that subject turned out. Good to see though that their track record of being 100% wrong about almost everything they believe Olbermann wouldn't do continues on.
Positive rating:
George Bush 29%
Democratic Congress 25%
Yeah, people are running in droves to be a Democrat.
Harry "the body" Reid clothed....19%
Naked...5%
Nancy Paloosie sitting on cucumber...21%
Other vegatables.........20%
Keith Olbermann on polo pony 5%
On fan 1%
Oh look - Olby's NBC Nightly commentary about Barry Bonds. I'm sure it was taped in plenty of time for Williams and his producers to ensure that Olby didn't deliver a head-exploding ultra-lefty spitfest diatribe.
Did you see his giant orange head in the final minute at the ball park? That's Olby's idea of investigative reporting out in the field.
Clucker as egg-laying bug eating fowl 33%
Clucker as fowl egg laying bug eating international jetsetter 67%
Gleason, that's an insult to women. I bet any woman, including Rosie O'Donnell could run faster and more gracefully than he did in that video. No wonder he hates women so much.......
Did anybody catch Olbermann's "Barry Bonds" special comment on NBC?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19698603/
They should change his picture at the website, its a few years old and quite a few pounds lighter.
But the production of it was suprisingly bad for network standards. Olbermann looked really old and extra heavy. Plus edited together with him wearing two different suits was especially odd within a 60 second piece.
He should pay the MS-NBC lighting guys a little extra, they do a much better job making him look half way decent on Countdown.
Take a look at this and tell me who this reminds you of. Rosie is using her free time after getting fired from "The View" to rant about her nemesis Elizabeth Hasselbeck. What Rosie is doing is almost identical to what Olbermann does when he has his nightly fit of jealousy over his vastly higher rated competitor, O'Reilly. Just like a modern day Edward R. Murrow, eh? Really pathethic.
http://news.aol.com/entertainment/television/story/_a/rosie-keeps-bashing-trump-hasselbeck/20070711082509990001
Thanks for link hank, I heard about it, but thought it was joke. Just like Olbermann, give your audience what it wants.
The rumor was for awhile that MSNBC wanted to hire Rosie to replace the now-vacated Scarborough hour at 9pm. She'd fit right in at MS-DNC wouldn't she?
>Olbermann runs like a woman with big clown shoes on.
Posted by: Gleason at July 11, 2007 2:06 AM
And Gleason knows first-hand...
Why here comes his wife now...
Careful with those Ronald McDonald Heels, Sweety...
Everything in America will be right if only:
.... Olbermann gets canned
.... Rosie is kept off the air
.... the AP were shut down
.... the NT stopped printing bad news
.... the Huffington Post went off-line
.... Kos readers would drink gutter water
.... Soros went bankrupt
.... Moore became mute.
It's like the Twilight Zone. Straight back to the mid-70's. Nixon is looking up at you all from the pits of hell and grimacing.
I understand Ms. Johnson just died. What a loss to my state and our nation. A woman of great intelligence, charm, sophistication, compassion and warmth. We won't see her kind again any time soon. My prayers to her daughters and granchildren.
6:22 is a prime example of an olbyloon "at work." The well worn "diversion" card. All spew, all the time.
Why do you hate our troops, Ye of Many Names?
Everytime someone asks you that, you change the subject. Makes me think you are a bit scared.
beat up jalopy, how many welcome home parties have you hosted for our returning troops? I would guess, zilch. Get back to your socialist whining club, prick.
"beat up jalopy".....LOL....I'm pretty sure everyone on this blog realizes just how childish Jeff sounds....except Jeff!
Day 23 and "mike" still hasn't told us how he supports our troops other than by banging on his keyboard under several different names saying the same thing over and over again "needless deaths," "maimed," "Bush lied," bla, bla, bla. Pretty sad when you have been shamed into changing your name. He thinks he's sly by popping in once in a while with "mike." News Flash, you're not sly "mike."
LOL....Hey Jeff, hows about telling me just WHO I changed my name to this time?
I believed you called me 'Clucker' last time, and guess what Jeff...you were wrong AGAIN! I've never seen anyone so persistant with spouting lies even though the've been proven WRONG so many time. No wonder you like this pathetic president so much!
Jeff thinks because I'm not posting very much, I must be using another name...LOL....cmon Jeff, what name am I using now????
Hey 'Clucker'.....come out, come out, wherever you are!.....LOL
Clucker says:
"Everything in America will be right if only:
.... Olbermann gets canned
.... Rosie is kept off the air" etc, etc.
Yeah, yeah . . . and, of course, Clucker what would really make America great again is if we could just silence anyone who wants to discuss the implications of massive government interventions to address global warming:
"Gore talks about the dysfunction of political discourse today. But when it comes to global warming, he and his acolytes insist that the time for debate is over. In other words, Gore's ideal discourse would involve only discussion about how best to follow through on his prescriptions."
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/column.aspx?UrlTitle=live_earth_dead_on_arrival&ns=JonahGoldberg&dt=07/11/2007&page=full&comments=true
.... how many welcome home parties have you hosted for our returning troops?
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Of course, I think the point is, we shouldn't be in a position that we are (still) hosting welcome home parties, although I doubt you have seriously ever had guests, much less members of our armed forces in your parents' trailer on the edge of the majical forest or at your favorite Mexican restaurant, Taco Bell. Virtually every word you write speaks of rank contempt for our forces. For you, they are merely numbers, merely cannon fodder to keep the Bush carnage mill running. You are truly despicable, and although everyone realizes you hate our troops, I am sure none of us understands why, Ye of Many Names.
And, I can assure you, Ye of Many Names, there are thousands and thousands of men and women, liberal and conservative, Republican and Democrat, donating hundreds of hours and hundreds of thousands of dollars to assist shattered families left behind, broken bodies of those returning, in all sorts of activities ranging from baby-sitting pools, to airfare, to little gifts, to job training and placement, while also working to end this Occupation and get us out of a Civil War not ours. Needless to say, among these people, not you and not your sort. You and your type are still too busy trying to convince yourselves that this was a just and reasonable endeavor, apparently merely to calm your own tormented souls for launching and playing a ghoulish and disgusting little political game without purpose. I suppose there is some justice in the fact that the hand dealt you has been very poor and that you and yours have no discernible playing skills. The game hasn't gone at all well. But you never really played, did you? Not you and not the game wizards, the Cheneys, Rumsfelds, Kristols and the like. Always detached. Never desiring to risk anything and never selected for the team. Sometimes, it is difficult to be just an observer, I suppose, but it has been your choice. The losses of those truly engaged, whatever their own personal view of the struggle, the pain, have been tremendous, but you and those like you have lost less than most, if anything. You and yours have sacrificed nothing; you have given nothing. A shameful part of difficult time in America .... I suppose that is the only way you can continue to bleat and bloat this hideous little, unending tune from some safe and sanitary place far away.
At long last, be done with you and your kind. We'll all be better for it.
Clucker,
I guess your sanctimony would be a bit easier to endure if your writing weren't so hackneyed and unfocused. You really need a good editor.
Of course, you never say in your long soliloquy what solution you would favor. Immediate withdrawal? Phased "redeployment" to Okinawa, maybe? There are many ways to say it, but it all adds up to one thing-- appeasement. If you wonder what the consequences of such a "strategy" would be, I would recommend some reading to acquaint you with the nature of our enemy-- The Looming Tower by Lawrence Wright and America Alone by Mark Steyn would good places to start
"hardcore right wing"
"fascist lub"
"nazi stormtrooper"
In the space of 7 minutes, there were three replies to my post at 12:59 am with the scholarly content I have quoted above.
Of course, no responses to my query about what course of action they would now recommend.
Shocker, "mike" plays the olbyloon fav, the "divert" card. Off with his tail between his legs.
Royal King, it's plain and simple, Mike doesn't support the troops. If he did, he would say he does and explain how he supports the troops. He has avoided the question on countless occasions that I have seen. Sir Loin of Beef thinks we should get rid of our military yet, some how claims to support our troops as well. How can that be? Clucker? I have read several of his posts and he just flat makes no sense, whatsoever. I think you are right about Mike and Clucker, one and the same. He probably lives on disability or ssi claiming to travel the world, teach sunday school, served in the military "during war time" but, never in combat. How does that work? Well, the wife is yelling, gotta go, Peace.
Lets see now "Beck Fan"...First off, anyone who is a fan of that fanatical imbecile has to be a simpleton themself.
DO I "support the troops"? Yes, I support them so much I want help get them home before any more of them get killed for NO coherent reason. Do you think YOU can give me a coherent reason why you want to see more of them get killed? Is it so you can keep waving your flag while pretending to be a patriot....from the safety of your living room?
Your buddy Jeff (Royalpain) can't even articulate a coherent arguement as to why our troops went over there in the first place, or why they are still there....and I bet YOU can't either!
You see, I WAS a troop during wartime, no less! Were YOU, imbecile fan? And no, I'm definitely not 'Clucker', and I definitely don't teach Sunday school. Even Jeff has figured that out by now...thats why both AAP and myself have been giving him hell about it.
As for 'disability', don't make me laugh! The only government money I've ever collected was when I was serving my country in the military. As for now, I'm as much of a capitalist as they come. Every dime I make comes from my business, and I don't depend on the government or any employer for anything, and I never will. So take your stupid Beck and Savage inspired stereotypes and shove them where the sun doesn't shine. People who think like you do are exactly what is wrong with this country.
So I ask you once again, imbecile fan, did YOU serve your country too? .... Or are you just another armchair warrier claiming to "support the troops"? .... Even though all you're really doing is help get more of them killed!
Just as I thought, he accuses others of not supporting the troops and can't tell us how he supports the troops. "Wanting them home" is supporting them? Cut and running is supporting them?We all want them home, dope. After we annihilate the enemy.
News Alert: We are in Iraq because of No. 1, 9/11, remember that, "mike?" Twice they bombed the Trade Centers. Remember that? They bombed The Cole. Remember that? The Marine Barrack Massacre. Remember that?
News Alert: We're still there because Iraq is not safe enough to leave. Ring a bell?
After yesterday, when I heard that Iraq failed to meet any of their short term goals I, now, think we need to get the hell out, too. Stabilize it the best we can and get the hell out. If the Iraqi's can't meet simple bench marks after ample time, we can't say we didn't try and try and try. Coherent enough?
On a lighter note....
Last month, Mr. Carter termed the American and Israeli government's boycott of the Hamas-led Palestinian government "criminal." It would be more enlightening though to hear what he thinks of the terrible situation he helped to create in Zimbabwe.
Jeff...WHO bombed the trade Centers (twice)? You still think IRAQ did that? You still think SADDAM was behind that?
You think either one was behind the bombing of the USS Cole?
You brought up the "Marine Barrack massecre": Was that IN Iraq? Was that BY Iraq?
Maybe you should just stick to not trying to make coherent arguments Jeff, because you failed miserably with that attempt....but I do give you credit for trying...for the first time ever.
We are in Iraq because of No. 1, 9/11, remember that, "mike?" *****SAUDI ARABIA***** Twice they bombed the Trade Centers. *****SAUDI ARABIA***** Remember that? They bombed The Cole. *****YEMEN*****Remember that? The Marine Barrack Massacre. *****LEBANON, SYRIA****Remember that?
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ABOUT THE SAME CONNECTION BETWEEN EACH OF THESE EVENTS AND IRAQ AS BETWEEN THESE EVENTS AND ARGENTINA. WHY AREN'T WE IN ARGENTIA? A NEW RECORD, PLEASE.
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I, now, think we need to get the hell out, too. Stabilize it the best we can and get the hell out.
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PROGRESS, AT LAST. I FEEL LIKE I JUST GAVE BIRTH. I GUESS THE REMAINING QUESTION IS HOW DO WE GET OUT? TO BE SURE GETTING OUT WILL BE AS MESSY AS REMAINING. ONCE, I SAID PHASED WITHDRAWAL. NOW, JUST GET OUT. THERE IS NO GOOD OPTION, BUT THAT'S NOT THE FAULT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, ONLY OUR COCK-EYED ADMINISTRATION.
Oh look, it's a war debate--for the 10,000 time on this board. In a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with the war and was actually written about Dan Patrick, ESPN, and Olbermann's lunatic fans. Oh well, at least Mike and Clucker show more proof of just how out there some of Olbermann's fans were. Cluck--I suggest you take a sedative or see your psychiatrist. You seem to be quite worked up and agitated this morning.
I've never said there weren't more relevant topics than Olbermann, ESPN, or Dan Patrick, however the name of this board is Olbermannwatch--not "Crazy Democratic Rants". And for the record, and for the 9,999th time, I opposed this war from the beginning and still do--however I do support the troops and believe we have to do what we have to do to get them home the best possible way while still ensuring some semblence of peace and order in Iraq--although I think the possibilities of that are remote at best given their unwillingness to govern their own country, which is why I opposed the war to begin with. Dictators work in Iraq. That doesn't make me pro-dictators by a long shot, but again, all of this is off-topic and not germaine to the discussion at hand, not that you'd have the least idea what staying on topic meant. I still don't understand the mentality of those of you who insist on hijacking every single thread. Is it your devotion to Olbermann that makes you feel compelled to hijack every thread? Is it your anger at Bush? Perhaps you'd best be advised to go post on a site like DU where your rants and raves would be better appreciated and more at home. In the meantime, don't ever tell me to shut up your little fucker.
mike/clucker, you just proved, once again, your liberal idiocy. Ever heard of Al Qaeda? Probably not, since your lips are stuck to Olbermahn's tool 24/7.
Ever heard of Al Qaeda? Probably not, since your lips are stuck to Olbermahn's tool 24/7.
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An organization without a large functioning presence in Iraq prior to 11 September 2001? An organization with a large presence in Saudi Arabia prior to and after 11 September 2001, from which most of the hijackers came? An organization whose leader roams at will and at large and appears on film from timt-to-time? An organization with a strong presence in Iraq now? An organization that has grown in membership and strength during the last 4 years? That Al Qaeda?
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How do lips affect my hearing? Particularly, how would my lips stuck to Mr. Olbermann's tool (you must be under the mistaken impression that I am a Republican office holder) affect my hearing? I don't know about such matters, but since you are a Republican, I assume you do: Wouldn't Mr. Olbermann's tool have to be in someone's ear canal to affect his or her hearing? Please explain for my edification.
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While you are explaining, Ye of Many Names, please also explain:
(1) Why you hate our troops.
(2) When you are going to start ignoring me, as promised.
(3) Whether you routinely break your promises, as I assume you must.
clunker/mentally incompetant, if you can find one post where I say "I hate our troops" and prove that I post under "many names" as you have so ignorantly accused me of (because you got nothing else) I will NEVER make a poste here again, deal, prick? Get busy, idiot.
Jeff: Sure I've 'heard' of Al Qaeda...and long before 911 happened at that.
Any more stupid questions?
And since you seem to have heard of Al Qaeda too, hows about you telling us how invading Iraq (a place that Al Qaeda wasn't in, nor were they even welcome), help us fight 'them' in any way?
In fact, Jeff, invading Iraq was literally an answer to Al Qeada's prayers. We did EXACTLY what they wanted us to do. Since when did doing exactly what your enemy hopes you will do good strategy? We vanquished the enemy of our enemy and therefore gave them a foothold somewhere they could not get any other way....and just look at the results!
MANY knowledgable people, including well known conservative Patrick Buchanon warned Bush this would happen BEFORE the invasion....and the rest is history.
And yet you still admire GWB?!?!?!
Keith Olbermann is says he has been offered the ESPN RADIO gig to do solo.
Here's the link, scroll done after the Bond's story: (Or read it below).
http://www.presstelegram.com/sports/ci_6363509
Keith Olbermann, whose return to radio with Patrick help boost both of their profiles the last few years and recreate the chemistry from their "Big Show" days on "SportsCenter," said Thursday's announcement was the first he had heard of The Content Factory.
"I told Dan directly that I've been exactly where he is, and I'll support him any way I can, and that he needs to do whatever works best for him," Olbermann said Thursday.
Olbermann added that ESPN has "been terrific and I'm very torn" about whether to continue on the network radio show - either hosting it by himself, as the network has offered, or do a shorter version. He could also join Patrick somewhere down the road at another syndicated show.
"I don't think with my other jobs I could give it as much as the company and listeners deserve," said the MSNBC "Countdown" anchor said of taking Patrick's ESPN Radio spot.
"Plus, my motivation has been working with DP. In short, we'll see."