Good of Olby to work in a plug for NFL Sports and the 2008 Olympics wasn't it? How long before he plugs Countdown and/or his book? What an egotistial hack. I almost, almost, feel sorry for the Democratic candidates for having to be anywhere near this idiot.

I thought Matthews was bad as a moderator but Olbermann is actually doing the impossible, making Matthews look good.

And the candidates? Could they be any more rehearsed? Olbermann probably slipped them the questions before time. Can't have his liberal buddies looking bad on national tv now could he?

Yeah sure Clucker, keep telling yourself that Olby and the Dems are doing a great job.

HRC needs a new facelift. This light is NOT flattering to her.

ROFL Keith, naturally, can't contain himself when it comes to injection is opinion over Iraq. "Senator Dodd, how do you handle this situation, where we get out, where you get us out, where al Qaeda takes over against all prediction?" Keith, now the expert in terrorism and the details of conducting a counter insurgency.

I wish KO would just go off script and tell America what America wants that Dumbya is a criminal and should be shackled by each extremity and led in different directions by horses... That would garner fantastic ratings.. worthy as well..

Ask them the hard questions KO. Examples: Mr. Edwards: Pert or Suave?

Sen. Clinton: We know your husband is a lying, cheating bastard. Do you intend to give the death-penalty to all whores in the future who tell their story to tabloids. I have a certain Miss Karma I'd like to see put to death for such an offense.

Sen. Obama: Do you propose tax-breaks for Sugar Daddys whose teenage girlfriends are shacking with them? Do you have any idea how much Marc Jacobs and Prada little Katy can buy in a day?

To the Keebler Elf on the End: Don't you think that short people should be fined for being short? As you know, I'm 6'3 and a half. That has nothing to do with the actual debate I just wanted everyone to know how tall I am.

Gov. Richardson: How do you feel about me, Keith Olbermann as a commentator on Monday Night Football, which by way, will air at 8pm on N-B-C-. That wasn't really a question, again, I have been told to get as many plugs as I can in for the NBC-UNI properties.

Sen. Dodd: I hear you and Teddy Kennedy used to tear up D.C. back in the day. Something about drunken displays in D.C. bars involving underage women. Do you have Teddy's number for the next time I'm in D.C.?

Sen. Biden: Sir, how many times a week do you watch Countdown, with me, Keith Olbermann, at 8pm Eastern on M-S-N-B-C?

Who says that Keith can't ask the tough questions?

please slit your throat..

ROFLMAO: He can't even control the stage. The candidates are talking over him, they don't even take him seriously. Perhaps they would if he weren't such an ass-kisser.

Keith balanced and controlled? Yeah right. That would be a first for him.

Wow, Biden just totally ignored that womans question who had just lost her husband in a mining accident. I don't think he helped himself with that one.

Olbermann now leading the group in a sing-along. "Look for the Union Label".

And I guess the Sago Mine Widow was a plant by the Unions to tell us that union labor keeps workers safer? Uhm, no. Wrong.

Olbermann now asking Obama for his wife's private cell number. ANd yes! Score! Just asked HRC if Bill still has the "fat chick's" phone number. Things must not be going that great at home with young Katy.

You can expect the showering of accolades upon the Dem Candidates from Bathtub Boy. Especially Dodd, after his run-in with O'Reilly last week. Did anyone see Chris Matthews introduce Dodd on his show earlier today? I swear I thought Matthews was gonna proclaim Dodd as the Messiah!

Just came from bung hole.....they had some pics up on the pre-softball game show.

Without the orange makeup pasty Keith looks as queer as a 3 dollar bill.

Especially those lips...ICKY, ICKY, YUCK!

And those glasses have douche written all over them....what a dufus.

No,, if there was a messiah he would be the one to shoot Bill O between the eyes.

Olby is having a hard time controlling the candidates and the crowd. Granted, the crowd is sitting outdoors in sweltering heat. When Kucinich is kicking every other candidate's ass and has the crowd cheering for him, that is the sign that Dems are in trouble.

Olbermahn lost complete control of this Democratic commercial!

Hillary also seems to be getting the softest of the softball questions from Olbermann -- would have been interesting to see how she would have answered the (incosequential, but offbeat) question Keith asked about his baseball bete noir, Barry Bonds. Bunch of boos for the moderator from the crowd on that one, while Edwards was pressed on his trial lawyer and right-to-work state roots. Hillary's questions are roughly on the line of "What's your favorite color?"

It's enough to make you think that Keith may have already made his decision on who is the most electable candidate, which turns out to be (of the big three) the most moderate of the group. So while he trolls for the highest number of far left viewers with his snark and special comments on "Countdown", he was the most protective of the candidate who'se husband just got a big check from Keith last fall.

Pat Buchanan also believes Kucinich did well. DK played to the crowd, no doubt. Edwards is pretty much dead in the water. I don't know why Edwards is counted in the top 3 candidates.

Olbermann had no control of either the crowd or the candidates. He never even bothered to address the candidates to tell them to tone down as other moderators have done to audiences in the past.

And the question about Barry Bonds? He's fucking kidding right? Of all the questions and issues facing this country and this world the most important thing on Olby's mind is Barry Bonds and baseball?

Typical, self-involved Olby trite.

Clucker, from where I watched Hillary got a higher percentage of "stump speech" questions -- i.e. ones that the candidate is already talking about in their regular speeches, and can easily rattle off their answer to during the debate. Olbermann's curveballs seemed to be reserved more for Obama and Edwards, and really, I don't mind him crossing the candidates up a bit, since without doing that the debate is merely a recitation of memorized talking points. It just seemed as though those were the type of questions that inevitably of the puff type, and when Keith had a chance to put her feet to the fire -- forcing her to defend her husband's actions on NAFTA after Edwards' criticism -- he let her by with a boilerplate response. When Obama tried to dodge the Bonds question, he told him he hadn't answered him on whether or not Barry deserved a White House invite.

does this site exist to protect bill o? or due some people just dislike KO that much? At least he doesn't pretend to be "fair and balanced", but i can not stand either of them so it does not matter to me, i'm just curious

How could Olbermann possibly be fair towards the rest of the candidates? He's already written checks to the Clinton's. If I would have been one of the other candidates I would have protested against such a biased moderator hosting this debate. Let's see if any of them will go on his 3rd rate(d) cable show from now on except for Hill (and Bill).

Actually Olbermann does pretend to be fair and balanced. That would be the problem. Olbermann also insists he's a news anchor yet seems to be afraid of actually traveling to a site where there's real news to really cover a story. Again, a big problem.

And could Olbermann have gotten any more self-centered with his "tribute" to a former co-worker in L.A. who died today? That had no place in a presidential debate. WTF cares outside of LA?

Olby's question about Barry Bonds was absolutely selfish and idiotic. I cannot believe he wasted Obama's and our time on it. Who cares about Bonds at the White House? Unbelievable. It seems as if Obama was peeved at it as well. Why did Olby single out Obama for that question as opposed to another candidate?

I am sorry about his co-worker's passing, but this was not the time to express a personal tribute.

Well, if you wanted to think the worst of Keith, you would say that he knows that support for Bonds is far higher among blacks than it is among whites and other minorities, and that Obama needs major support from blacks in the primaries if he's to make a crediable run at Mrs. Clinton, while at the same time not alienating white voters by saying something that would brand him as simply a single-faction candidate, like Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton.

Asking Obama to answer that question was Keith's way of trying to get him to either alienate the majority of African-Americans (those who care), who see the media excessively persecuting Bonds, and the others, who may not think Bonds is as bad as Michael Vick and his dog fighting/slaying alligations, but still think the major body of evidence pointing towards his use of illegal steroids should disqualify him from both role model status and any appearance at the White House.

So at the same time that the question was superfluious and trite, it was also an attempt to gin up a mini-controversy around Obama while Bonds' quest for 756 is in the news. That's why Obama appeared angry at the question, and that's why so many in the crowd booed as soon as Keith asked it, because they also knew exactly what he was trying to do.

Olbermannn is so self-centered and ego-centric that he honestly believes that if it's important to him, then it's important to the viewing audience.

Kucinich cleaned up; on NAFTA, China, and Iraq he said what Democrats (particularly labor) want to hear. Everyone on stage wished his/her people had written that "digging a hole to Chana" line.

Biden made enemies of the labor audience through his ham-handedness, and did a pompous replay of his "one word answer" success from the first debate. This credit industry whore can't leave the race or the senate quick enough for me.

Hillary and Edwards were too transparent in their "annointed front-runner" spats. I don't understand how anyone can take Hillary at her word following her defense of K-Street last week, and she did a poor job of addressing Olbermann's question in this regard.

Edwards was probably the most scripted of all the participants, although I like a lot of what he says. Sadly, I subscribe to the $400 haircut/30-acre house criticisms.

Obama did OK defending himself on the Pakistan subject, but was uninspiring otherwise. Richardson was not very articulate or organized, and I thoght did poorly with the job-migration question from the audience. Dodd is a good politician - that's all he's getting out of me.

But now MSNBC is focusing on Hillary, Obama, and Edwards the corporate safety zone (in that order).

...and yes, the Bonds question was preposterous.

If I had to hear one more time from Richarson what is resume was....... we get it Mark. You're qualified.

And Keith was it really necessary to ask that stupid-ass baseball question? Not everyone cares about baseball or sports you know.

"Kucinch will scrap NAFTA and WTO. Huge applause. Grand-standing."

...or, stating his positions that are clearly reflected in a successful and daring legislative record, and that are clearly popular with the target electorate.

If expressing support for policies that will protect the American worker is "Grandstanding", then I will take grandstanding over a vapid defense of sucking up Big Pharma money ala Hillary.

Do you honestly think that these candidates, in their corporate-paid for private jets (thanks to loophooles in the election reform laws) really give a damn about the average American worker? Please. Are you honestly that naiive or are you just stupid?

Clucker,

I am aware that Kucinich does not have a chance for the Dem nomination - the MSNBC post-debate coverage illustrates the primary reason why (I don't think his name was mentioned outside of the screen-crawl). But voices like his are essential to the process, and I will support him with money and words until he drops out. If Hillary is the candidate I will write him in.

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Gee who was the bigger butt kisser KO to the Dems or Chrissy Matthews to KO after the debates,,guess he knows he better play nice with MSNBC favorite boy or else.

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I thought Olby was going to lick HRC there for a minute. Could he have gotten any more obvious about who is he supporting? He snapped at Edwards, threw Obama the race-baiting baseball question, and ignored the rest of the field.

My heart's with Edwards. My soul, with Obama. My vote, more-and-more likely with Clinton.

Posted by: Clucker at August 7, 2007 9:27 PM

Translation: Finger in the air, as well as other places.

Wow, Biden just totally ignored that womans question who had just lost her husband in a mining accident. I don't think he helped himself with that one.

Posted by: Mike at August 7, 2007 8:49 PM

Like he had a chance......

John at 10:21 posted ...."So at the same time that the question was superfluious and trite, it was also an attempt to gin up a mini-controversy around Obama while Bonds' quest for 756 is in the news. That's why Obama appeared angry at the question, and that's why so many in the crowd booed as soon as Keith asked it, because they also knew exactly what he was trying to do."

Spot on !

just heard the news that Keith Olbermann will moderate a Democratic presidential debate tonight. To quote the cat in the fridge, “Is U kddng me?”

. . .Olbermann is just another BDS-positive commentator, although one with a significantly below-average IQ and above-average ego. This combo can be entertaining while discussing the latest steroid scandal, but the political world is much better at spotting phonies (they get a lot of practice).

Nevertheless, ExLg has scooped the media world by locating a pre-debate copy of Olbermann's secret list of questions. (I'm sure Drudge will have that siren graphic up any second now.):

When Dubya imposes martial law in January 2009, are you willing to call air strikes on Crawford, Texas?

We all know that fire doesn’t melt steel. So were the towers brought down by Rove’s weather machine or Cheney’s evil destructo-ray?

You’re up 13 with three minutes to go in the fourth and the Vikings are starting on their 16-yard line. Keeping in mind you’re on astroturf, do you Blitz or go Prevent Defense?

Should taxes be doubled or tripled? Oh, and this question goes to that person between the black guy and the woman. Yeah, you. With the nice hair.

"Sir. I ask you sir. At long last, have you no sense of decency, sir?" Okay, Sen. Biden, you should totally say that to the President the next time you see him. That would be so cool.

When you talk to the aliens, Congressman Kucinich, what do they say about me?

You all have been on the political scene for some time. How do you get Chris Matthews’ spittle out of your hair?

What is your favorite movie? Well, besides Good Night and Good Luck. And Air Bud.

http://exurbanleague.com/2007/08/07/exlg-scoop-prevue-of-tonights-democratic-debate.aspx

What the question shows is while Olbermann may rant out there against Bush and conservatives just on the edge of going out into Truther territory, his support for the Clintons from the 1990s lives on, and he's decided that when push comes to shove, he's going to try and cocoon Hillary from as nuch harsh treatment as possible. The toughest question she got tonight, on the lobbyists, was one she's already developed an answer for, so unlike Edwards or Obama, she never had to deal with a curveball/controversal question from Olby that she hadn't been asked before.

That doesn't mean he won't side with Edwards or Obama when it comes to them either attacking, or being attacked, by the right. But when its them versus Hillary after tonight's debate, I wouldn't be surprised if Obama, Edwards and their staffs feel about like the way Rick Lazio felt during the 2000 Senate campaign, when no one from the big media outlets would toss Mrs. Clinton a hardball question.

Where's the king o the loons, mike? He hasn't showed his face since he claimed the orange faced prick (I'm not liberal) wouldn't blame Bush for the bridge collapse. Guess he's waiting for us to forget it. Not going to happen.

Actually, SLOB, if you listened to Pat Buchanan at least the segment I caught, he was very complimentary of Kucinich. Buchanan would not have attacked Iraq and was outspoken when no one else was. Buchanan would try to get rid of Roe v. Wade; Kucinich would not. Or so I thought. I read an interesting article that I would suggest you read since he is the candidate you favor. Until a few minutes ago, I somewhat respected Kucinich on his consistency in the face of clear opposition, for example, holding to an initial unpopular position on the war that ultimately many have come to embrace. My concern, of course, was the life issues; I thought he always was on the opposite side of the fence than me. Then I read this, which I am assuming, accurately reflects his voting record. You may say genuine change of heart (it is possible) but I say a politician just like all others.

Novermber 1, 2002, 8:30 a.m.
Pro-Life Progressive No More
The strange journey of Dennis Kucinich.
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-carney110102.asp

(I didn't choose a conservative site but just googled Kucinich and abortion)

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I remember you commenting that Kucinich does not wear his religion on his sleeve.

Read below:

There is a mystical quality to the boyish Cleveland congressman, and he may be the most overtly spiritual of the Democratic candidates. Some have described him as fiery, but when his oratory becomes animated, it can seem more an enlivened gentleness. He often pauses when he speaks - long pauses with vacant stares that seem like contemplation. Indeed, in his introductions at campaign appearances, he always tells his audience that his politics is grounded in "a spiritual sense of the interconnectedness of the world," and he nearly always invokes the Gospels in explaining the themes of his campaign.

. . .

Growing up Roman Catholic, Kucinich pored over the Scriptures in Latin, studied the lives of the saints, and read the economic issues reflected in papal encyclicals. He also became very influenced by Dorothy Day and the Catholic Workers Movement. Spiritual principles, he believes, can transform the material world.

"My politics derives an understanding from this," Kucinich explains. "While our fathers understood well the importance of the separation of church and state, they never meant America to be separate from spiritual values. Spiritual values can improve our own health, our spirit, our nation, and the world."

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0102/p01s03-uspo.html
(again, google search and came across, not specifically reading certain sites)

Your position of voting for someone who will not win and even writing in the candidate's name is what I almost did in 2000. I was going to vote for Buchanan on principle. I decided to vote for Bush, not my first choice. Had Buchanan been viable in 2004, I would have voted for him then as well. I don't think he would have immediately withdrawn from Iraq but he would have been smarter about running the war. The fact that there appears to be some success is that Rumsfeld is gone (too late) and Gates and Petreus are in.

Daily Kos :

AFL-CIO Debate Thread III Hotlist
by mcjoan
Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 05:14:49 PM PDT

I have a whole new sympathy for Olbermann.

P.S. And can I say I don't think I've seen a more crass moment in presidential politics (this round) than Biden blowing off the Sago mine widow's question?

Mike:

Wow, Biden just totally ignored that womans question who had just lost her husband in a mining accident. I don't think he helped himself with that one.
Posted by: Mike at August 7, 2007 8:49 PM

wasn't outraged. was amused many times. i used to like watching countdown for its first year or two. then keith wacked out. bush/gore, 9/11, iraq, terrorism, all radicalized keith. thats probably why this site exists... we cant believe what has become of this guy we used to watch and enjoy. countdown was good... keith is good at running his mouth..... hes just so dishonest.

not the toughest questions but what could you expect... i still found his questions suffiently annoying to the blowhard dem candidates. funny at times. the whole thing reminded me why i was so angry when keith decided to throw fairness and objectivity out the window these several years gone by. he definitely can run his mouth good. i think he is still mad at the democrats for not pulling out of iraq as soon as they took over congress. funny. hearing all the dems speak, especially Dodd... hillarious.... just throw some fantasies out there like i will solve global climate change by taxing ppl and building 50 mpg vehicles and taxing other ppl, and "investing" in corn, biofuels, wind, etc etc... as if this STINKING BITCH HAS A DAMN CLUE ABOUT ANY OF THIS SCIENCE SHIT. basically, they all talk a lot of empty promises... i learned that with there so called easy stance on soft drugs. its all talk. they promise you the world, they get in office. they dont deliver.

as bush has said, agree or not, you know where I stand. integrity. the dems say one thing do the other... its always been that way. and if for some reason they implement their crazy ideas..... all shit hits all fans. jimmy carter baby.

Kucinich for President!

hillarious audience questions too. that guy crying and whining over not being able to pay his wifes welfare and 30+ years something blah blah blah. he worked it up to a nice crescendo. then their was the foreigner wanted his buddies to be americans too and the inevitable applause when he said he became american (these ppl are so flattered ppl want to join team usa they let their country get overrun...) ...you had the "eficiency expert" who wants more business, so could the government "force" businesses and institutions to upgrade to newer more efficient stuff. such whimpering looking to big brother to make everything better. as if democrats havent been in office EVER B4 and have had deacdes to FIX what they BITCH ABOUT DAILY.

all in all its good to see all these democrats illuminated so clearly, for what they are, clowns. nothing seems to change with them, they talk a HUGE game, but NEVER deliver.... oh and god forbid when they do, heh.

funny seeing biden scrappin with edwards... fighting for that coveted 5 place?

as the camera was panning the audience, how could i not think... damn... look at all those idiots... i mean loveable idiots and all... i have a liberal uncle and sure i love him as a family member. but hes a full fledged foghead. he doesnt smoke or anything, but his head is in a fog, his head is in the clouds... about all the marvelous things that can happen if just... i guess if they promise it! my uncle, loveable foghead idiot. negating one of our family's "good" votes... theres no way to reason with him. and hes no welfare case, just a true lib at heart. we agree on plenty... but only cuz i have mind control abilities and my libertarian spirit. anyways the audience pan showed a crowd of people that definitely had that "look" that liberals have. the Mike Farrell look, the Ed Begley, Jr look.... the big head long neck. i know its not a hard and fast rule, but liberals can, you know, have that "look"... its good to be a dreamer, but dont belive in these ppl.

3:14 Olbyhater: You don't believe in stereotyping people, do you?

Jeff, in answer to your inane question you posed at 1:13 as to where I've been...the answer is right here. I've been checking in occasionally. Unlike you, I don't have the time or even the inclination to post here that often...and your stupidity has definitely begun to bore me.

As for my prediction that Olbermann would not blame Bush for the bridge collapse....he didn't, you moron!

Good moderators make the event about the candidates, unfortunately Olbalmann wanted to make himself part of the event and interjected too much. He step on Bidden's line congratulating the new citizen that was asking a question.

anyways the audience pan showed a crowd of people that definitely had that "look" that liberals have. the Mike Farrell look, the Ed Begley, Jr look.... the big head long neck. i know its not a hard and fast rule, but liberals can, you know, have that "look"... its good to be a dreamer, but dont belive in these ppl.

Posted by: olbyhater at August 8, 2007 3:14 AM

Yeah; all those pencil-necked steel-workers, pipe-fitters, nurses, miners, etc.

Probably wasn't a steely-eyed, bull-necked, iron-handed advertising executive or insurance underwriter among them.

Olbermann interjecting himself into a story? Imagine that.

Mike, you're kidding me about sterotyping right? It's all you liberals ever do! You have the idea that we all live in the South (we don't), that we are all born-again bible thumpers (we're not) and that at the same time we're corporate fat cats AND unemployed yahoos who live in trailers, never mind we can't be both. The hatred and contempt that liberals show for people they THINK are Republicans has been on display here many times over at Owatch. And you're complaining about someone else's sterotyping? Give me a break.

Here are two indicators of how bad Olby was last night: the debate wasn't even discussed on NBC's Today show until 15 minutes into the show and then only very briefly. I'm still looking for an article which will rate Olbermann's performance but have yet to find one. If the MSM thought he was any good at all, they'd be lavishing praise on him like he was the 2nd Coming. He stunk it up pretty bad with that dumb Bonds question.

Indicator #2: Lots of liberals on various and sundry Leftists websites this morning bitching about favortisim FOR Hillary and against the other candidates and his inane questions and lack of follow-up.

Ha!

"Gov. Richardson: How do you feel about me, Keith Olbermann as a commentator on Monday Night Football, which by way, will air at 8pm on N-B-C-. That wasn't really a question, again, I have been told to get as many plugs as I can in for the NBC-UNI properties."

I can't imagine how badly that show will suck. Poor Tiki, after the first show I'll bet he starts considering a comeback.

..."MSNBC's "Countdown With Keith Olbermann" is doing so well -- now with 72 percent more viewers since a year ago -- Olbermann was tapped to host tonight's AFL-CIO debate of Democratic presidential candidates at Soldier Field on MSNBC and WMAQ-Channel 5.
"Countdown" is a hit because its mix of politics and pop culture makes it the most entertaining newscast in America. One minute, Olbermann critiques politicians and pundits in the style of a witty professor; the next he flashes video of a man doing squats on the back of a giant elephant, or some such thing.

Olbermann credits some of "Countdown's" success to O'Reilly, whom he calls a "crazy demagogue" in the vein of Joe McCarthy.

"Good ol' Bill writes half my material for me," Olbermann says. "It's how, to some degree, a virus feels about the host. ... I'll try not to compare myself to any one-celled animals again, but there we go."...

http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/elfman/499433,CST-FTR-elf07.article

The witty professor who sleeps with undergrads.

Countdown "now with 72 percent more viewers since a year ago"

Its best to start the day with a hearty laugh.

Any more sour grapes and it'll look like a Texas winery around here, children...

A Barry Bonds question? Olbermahn, you're a freakin' idiot and a waste of network bandwidth.

If he said it- it has to be true in Olbyworld.

Do you really believe his ratings are up 72%?

I thought not. But eat that shit pie loons. And son of loons.

BiiiiiiiillllllllllllOOOooooooo. Look at me! Look at me! Why won't he notice me? :( He's so dreamy. I want him so bad. He's the bomb.

Oh, and Bush is eeevil.

My apologies for going off topic but it is an open forum: is anyone here as excited as I am for the start of football?

Its balls hot here on the East Coast but man, am I ready. Ravens take on the Eagles this weekend.

I couldn't stomach watching Orangemann tossing softball ?'s at these cowards, and also fawning over himself. I had the good fortune to switch on right after it ended to see "spittle-boy" telling olby how great he was. He says "you'll see how great you did when you watch the tape of the debate". Gee chrissy, do you really think olbydick might actually watch a tape of himself moderating?
And olby just sat there with a stupid looking dufus shit-eating grin on his face.
What a pair of nauseating boobs.

Olby threw more softballs than Jenny Finch....The Barry Bonds question To Osama Oohbama, holy crap who gives a flying fig

He also fumfered alot and I agree with the guy who wrote without his usual orange glow there was weirdness all around in his look

Go steelers!

Well, losers...

What question would YOU have asked the democratic candidates?

I certainly would have found a way to tone my ego down and keep Barry Bonds out of an AFL-CIO debate

As for my prediction that Olbermann would not blame Bush for the bridge collapse....he didn't, you moron!

Posted by: Mike at August 8, 2007 4:28 AM

#4: Bridge update. Ah, the question of "federal funding". And one quote after another about how George Bush's Iraq war siphoned off all the infrastructure funds. This should not be any surprise to clear-thinking readers of this site, who predicted all along that Monkeymann would pin the blame on "Mister" Bush. It was obvious as soon as the blue blogs started the ball rolling. Olby gets all his best stuff from the blue blogs.

Love the pigskin but it means the end of summer.
Bittersweet!

I would have asked why they haven't impeached President Bush for his crimes. And why they can't come out and just say what we know: That being that President Bush imploded the twin towers and used Karl Rove's Weather Machine to kill all the people of color in New Orleans.

No takers, eh?...

These July cable rankings of the Top 20 shows among adults 25-54 pretty much speak for themselves:

Net____ Program________________________ Viewers
FOX___ THE OREILLY FACTOR______________375
FOX___ HANNITY & COLMES________________362
FOX___ ON THE RECORD W/GRETA__________351
FOX___ FOX AND FRIENDS__________________318
FOX___ THE OREILLY FACTOR (RPT)__________303
FOX___ THE FOX REPORT W/S.SMITH_________292
FOX___ AMERICAS NEWSROOM______________279
FOX___ SPECIAL REPORTW/BRIT HUME_______263
CNN___ LARRY KING LIVE___________________ 252
FOX___ LIVE DESK W/M.MACCALLUM_________235
FOX___ FOX NEWS LIVE_____________________ 224
FOX___ FOX & FRIENDS FIRST_______________ _223
MSNBC_ MSNBC INVESTIGATES (RPT)_________215
FOX___ STUDIO B W/S.SMITH________________ 209
MSNBC_ MSNBC REPORTS (RPT)______________207
CNN___ ANDERSON COOPER 360______________205
FOX___ THE BIG STORY W/J GIBSON__________ 204
CNN___ LOU DOBBS TONIGHT_________________203
FOX___ YOUR WORLD W/NEIL CAVUTO_________198
MSNBC_ COUNTDOWN W/ K. OLBERMANN______185
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Blindrat, I guess you really are blind. I don't know about the rat part. But I posted a question I would have asked.

Thanks, Troofer...

If I want idiotic replies, I'll wait for rk...

You're posting Rat and you always win the prize for most idiotic posts.

anon,

Yes, I am posting. How intelligent of you to figure that out!

I have yet to see the prize, though. Is it a cash prize?

Jeff, I CAREFULLY watched Countdown the night I made that prediction looking for any evidence of him blaming the Bush Administration, and absolutely HE DID NOT "BLAME BUSH" for the bridge collapse.

I also noted this very fact on this very blog and no one challenged me on it at the time. Even your equally muddy thinking buddy Joker didn't make that claim, although he did falsly finger Mike Barnicle of Hardball for blaming Bush.

Jeff, your strange legacy of S T R E T C H I N G facts in order to make them fit your preconcieved little right wing notions continue....and I continue to laugh at your murky logic...although it is getting boring.

idiotic? Search the web. There are many of us that believe President Bush is responsible for those things. But I guess you dismiss those of us with whom you don't agree. I see how it is.

With the heat and humdity in Baltimore right now, I'll take the end of Summer.

Sharon - uh Oh, Steelers fan alert.

How does the team look this year? The Ravens are unknown at this point but not negatively. Coming off 13-3 isn't bad, the defense is the same, the big issue is McNair is one year older. But the backs are different with the departure of Jamal so it could be interesting.

face it repukes and liberal assholes. libertarians are gonna own you this century.

Troofer,

Don't pout...

Adults don't pout...

Not pouting at all. Just pointing out that unless you get the answers you want, and can steer the conversation the way you want, you aren't interested in discussion.

Troofer,

I am up for a conversation for football, or the upcoming six nations clash.

I have no doubt that Bush is guilty of a great many evils, Troofer; however, no sane politician is going to touch that with a ten foot pole...without concrete proof...

I asked the question because some idiots were complaining about "softballs" from Olbermann...

Well, my question most definitely wouldn't be a "softball" question. And as far as proof goes, google "9/11 truth." There's a ton of it.

Blowing each other with their olbermann fantasies

Blind rat you are a dick, how many times do i have to say it, the barry bonds race baited question to ooooosama was disgraceful

Mike, good to see you back dickus, nice you are back under your own name, tell mom i said hi

Blindrat is more than likely one of Olbermann's deranged middle-aged female harpies who have made him into their imaginary boyfriend and go to almost unimaginable lengths to protect him.

I thought Royal King was Jeff and Jeff was Joker so Royal King is Joker. Isn't that right? They certainly think irrationally and idiotically (cookie cutter emissions) and write poorly and clumsily (same style or lack thereof).

Posted by: Clucker at August 8, 2007 1:01 PM

philby, your paranoia is getting the best of you. Just because you were caught using multiple names does not mean others do it, aside from a couple of your cohorts like why/aap/anon. Now, go back to your venezuelan news paper or maybe the london times for your daily dose of brainwashing.

No Clucker, I don't thaink Jeff is Joker....but who knows? They are both equally irrational, but each in their own special way.

However, I do KNOW that Jeff is 'RoyalKing'.

No Clucker, I don't thaink Jeff is Joker....but who knows? They are both equally irrational, but each in their own special way.

However, I do KNOW that Jeff is 'RoyalKing'.

This is the question I would have asked to all the candidates:

You have all promised to raise taxes on the 'rich'. Define what per capita income meets your threshold to be considered the 'rich' and extrapolate that to the norm most commonly used for families, the family of four, as opposed to the per capita amount.

For the second round I would have asked each of the candidates individually based on their earlier answer:

Will you take a pledge tonight to veto any tax bill that increases taxes in any way on those that you have identified tonight as 'not rich' and only approve taxes that apply to the 'rich' by your own definition?

Grammie

Hello doofus at 1:16: You wanna tell me what other names you think I was using?

And I'll be glad to drop your mom a note if you'll give me the email address you share with her.

Still no real questions (that they would've asked the democratic candidates) from the Olby-haters...

They whine like little girls that only softball questions were asked; but, out of an infinite number of possible questions, they have come up with a grand total of zero...

although he did falsly finger Mike Barnicle of Hardball for blaming Bush.

Posted by: Mike at August 8, 2007 12:40 PM

Proof? Not.

"Proof? Not."

Jeff, all you have to do is look at the thread from the night of that particular show. It's right there in black and white.

Or do you think it's up to me to cut and paste it just for you?

You would ignor it anyway if I did.

Mike you ignorant slut, Mom jokes are my schtick,,,,your lifting my material

I'll say it again, welcome back btw, im glad hopefully youve gotten out of your basement, kept the kiddie porn to a minimum, and saw the world again

Mike is one of those guys who lives in moms basement, waits all day for her to make dinner, walks around in his bathrobe, probably on some sort of disability from the state? who likes to come here and pass himself off as some sort of intellectual, ha

welcome back , now at least if you are going to take me on dont steal my material, it makes you look like a bigger loser than you already are

Steelers are looking good if the game the other night is a prediction.

Well done LB, well done and well said...all the stupid people in that room and John Edwards could give a shit about any of them, ha

Your mother is stupid, son...

Blindrat~

I would have asked:

Imagine a beleagured Attorney General who has repeatedly mislead or forgotten key facts while testifying under oath to Congress. The lack of confidence has grown so bad and the mistrust so strong that even members of the AG own party have publicly criticized as inept.

Despite these facts, a larger truth is that keeping the AG in power, indeed, voting him more authority, is worth political gold in an election campaign.

Should the AG be impeached now or should he remain through the election cycle and help the opposition party regain the White House and Congress?

But I didn't watch the debate so maybe he did ask this. I still think Olby is going to stink on football!

As Quoted by Keith On Friday- (from his own transcript)

Mike - please note as you seem to be receiving editted broadcasts that allow you to insist he did not blame Bush and the War for the collapse. Remember you call everyone an idiot for asserting this- hmmmmm.

OLBERMANN ON FRIDAY-
"
Earlier today, Minnesota Governor Amy Klobuchar referred to the, quote, “Messed up priorities of spending half a trillion dollars in Iraq while bridges crumble at home.”

New York Congresswoman Louis Slaughter joined the connection even tighter, calling the bridge victims, quote, “almost victims of war” because our, quote, “perpetual war depletes the funds available to maintain our infrastructure.”

By some estimates, bringing all of America‘s bridges up to satisfactory condition would take nearly $190 billion. The Iraq war now estimated at costing about half a trillion dollars.

Seems you idiotic statements are placed at the feet of the wrong people.

Why are you trying benson? This Mike character is losing his mind and doesn't care to listen to an opposing view. I pity his students who are being taught by such a closed minded person.

?,

Now THAT was a valid question...

Benson, the original question is "did Olbermann blame Bush for the Minnesota bridge collapse".

Comparing the cost of this illicit war to available infrastructure funding IS NOT "BLAMING BUSH " for the bridge collapse! Questioning funding is a FAIR question that SHOULD be asked at a time like this by everyone....yes, even Fox.

As I've already said...anything beyond that is a S T E T C H!

Any questions?

Peter King: It seems pretty "closed minded" on your part to to post that someone is "close minded" for posting a reasoned rebuttal.

By the same muddy logic Benson just used to 'refute' my argument (and call me an idiot), just about ANYTHING could be read in ANY statement.
'
Once again for the thick headed out there: Olbermann DID NOT BLAME BUSH FOR THE MINNESOTE BRIDGE COLLAPSE!

You guys are S T R E T C H I N G !

You go Girl

S T E T C H!
S T R E T C H I N G !

Did you ask Mom how to say the word?
You go boy....Before you know it you'll take the robe off and put some pants on

Oh, and BTW,

OLBERMANN ON FRIDAY-
"
Earlier today, Minnesota Governor Amy Klobuchar referred to the, quote, “Messed up priorities of spending half a trillion dollars in Iraq while bridges crumble at home.”

New York Congresswoman Louis Slaughter joined the connection even tighter, calling the bridge victims, quote, “almost victims of war” because our, quote, “perpetual war depletes the funds available to maintain our infrastructure.”

By some estimates, bringing all of America‘s bridges up to satisfactory condition would take nearly $190 billion. The Iraq war now estimated at costing about half a trillion dollars.

Its called "reading between the lines" You should google that one also to see what that means

Man you are just sad sometimes

John Edwards most famous case was a little girl who had her intestines sucked out through her anus by a powerfull uncovered swimming pool intake.

If you think he should be faulted for successfully taking on big clients who have ruined the lives of ordinary people....fine - hate John Edwards, but nothing he has ever done, including that $400 haircut, makes him a hypocrite. By that logic, there never could be a politician who is an honest advocate for the poor...because by necessity, they are all wealthy themselves. It also doesn't say much for your regard for human nature if you really believe that no one could be an advocate for others not as fortunate as themselves.

That said, John Edwards did lose me last night bu cozying up too much with organized labor. He is correct in his belief that labor built America, but I think he is somewhat naive to believe we can ever return America back to what it used to be.

This whole segment was how the war is taking money from repairing our infrastructure. Now THAT is stretching to tie the two together. Its a news-opinion show and by presenting them in the same segment, he is definitley blaming Bush's war. Yet you continue to squirm.

What you fail to realize is KeithO will always take a theory from a blue blog and report it as investigative reporting.

Once again for the thick headed out there: Olbermann DID NOT BLAME BUSH FOR THE MINNESOTE BRIDGE COLLAPSE!

You guys are S T R E T C H I N G !

Posted by: Mike at August 8, 2007 2:11 PM

If mike yells it, it must be true. The orange faced fat ass didn't blame the VT killings on Bush (which I posted the orange ones own words and mike still covers his eyes and denies it) nor did the orange faced fat ass blame Bush for the bridge collapse. mike yelled it, so it must be true!

Anon 2:16, I'm sure you know how chickenshit it is to pounce on a simple spelling error in a blog debate, but it does evade the point for you doesn't it?

"It's called reading between the lines"

There....I just KNEW I could get you to say it!....You admit that you are ASSUMING someone was implying one thing when they actually said something else, mostly based on previous assumptions about their assumed opinions.

I too can take almost ANY statement and turn it into something else entirely by "reading between the lines" using pre-concieved notions.

So thanks again for proving my point that KO DID NOT BLAME BUSH FOR THE MINNESOTA BRIDGE COLLAPSE!

Benson:

The FACTS are that the war is taking funds away from many domestic issues right now.

Is that a point you really want to argue?

Therefore, with your illogical mindset, ANY time any liberal points out that more funds might have been available for a domestic problem, they are "blaming Bush" for that particular problem.

That is not "clear thinking"....it is very murky thing.

Laura, since you persist with this "lussy' thing, as if you actually think anything YOU called me bothers me, how about answering a question:

What the hell is a 'Lussy"?

(Mike)
Therefore, with your illogical mindset, ANY time any liberal points out that more funds might have been available for a domestic problem, they are "blaming Bush" for that particular problem.

Without realizing it, Mike, you have stated the exact psoition of some liberals. The illogical mindset is not Benson's; it is Benson's description of some liberals' mindset.

"the fact is this man destroyed the careers of good doctors over unproven science."

Who the hell are YOU to determine how 'good' these doctors were? The courts obviously found otherwise.

It sounds to me like your real grievance is with the legal system for giving redress to those who feel they have been irreparably harmed by medical incompetence.

Edwards just happened to be good. I thought that is what you admired?

POOR LITTLE PHONY
JOHN EDWARDS' FAKE EMPATHY

http://www.nypost.com/seven/08082007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/poor_little_phony_opedcolumnists_brad_warthen.htm?page=0

I read this piece out of curiosity. I never supported Edwards even before the $400 haircut attention. This, though, struck a cord with me, particularly how he was caught by the author (if you believe him) purposefully being late to an event where people were sweltering in the heat.

John Edwards you say?

He's the trial lawyer who pretended in court to channel the spirit of a handicapped fetus in front of illiterate jurors to scam tens of millions of dollars off of innocent doctors.

According to The New York Times, Edwards told one jury: "She speaks to you through me ... And I have to tell you right now — I didn't plan to talk about this — right now I feel her. I feel her presence. She's inside me, and she's talking to you."

"The facts are the money spent defeating terrorist is money saved in the future."

Then why have we been wasting lives, time, and money in Iraq....you cowardly internet name caller?

As far as Edwards-
The opinion that is growing is that the more you get to know hime, the less you like him as a person.

Article written entitled - "Why I see John Edwards as a big phony" was just released and has painted a really shallow picture of Johnny boy. The kind that will ruin his chance to get the nomination. Good reading if you are a dem or repub.

You come here to a post where we hate Olbermann and attempt to dazzle us with your supposed brilliance,,,,,I however know who you are, your a wanna be who never was

I call it like it is, your a chickenshit bullshit artist that I will call out on every turn

Your as much a Phony as Edwards is, Edwards was the guy who made his fortune chasing bullshit lawsuits....Your a bullshitter living on the internet in your bathrobe yelling at your mother to fix you turkey pot pie

L.B.,

I would not debate in the style that you do but you make some observations that are noteworthy. First, concerning the gentleman who asked the question "heard 'round the world" according to Matthews, that seemed like a plant to me. I feel sorry for him, if his situation is truly as he describes, but you said something that I wanted to point out about his weight. I spoke with a doctor (who specializes in homeopathic medicine) about socialized health care. He is in favor of some form of it. He said that there needs to be stiff penalties for health issues related to lifestyle choices, i.e., obesity. Not every obese person is entirely responsible for his/her condition. But I believe most of them are. Poor diet, little or no exercise over a period of time leads to health problems, diabetes one of the prime examples. I am not saying that the gentleman who raised the question at the debate had a disability related to weight. I know several people who are angry about the rising cost of health care created in some part, by self-induced problems.

Another observation that was crudely put but oh so true, (no matter what your stance on the war) is this: The Iraqi people were starving and dying of diseases while Saddam was taking shits in gold plated toilets... . Some act as if the people lived so well under Saddam. Besides stealing the money for the people to help them overcome the effects of the sanctions, he used blackouts as punishment and another cruel way to control through brutality.

Anon 2:16, I'm sure you know how chickenshit it is to pounce on a simple spelling error in a blog debate, but it does evade the point for you doesn't it?

Posted by: Mike at August 8, 2007 2:30 PM

>>>How many time have you done it? Countless. Our daily dose of hypocrisy from mike.

Without realizing it, Mike, you have stated the exact psoition of some liberals. The illogical mindset is not Benson's; it is Benson's description of some liberals' mindset.

Posted by: Sharon at August 8, 2007 2:43 PM

>>>Nail on the head, dink!

Krazy Keith lost his day-glow tan
In Chicago there must be a ban
On orange tinted loons
But there's hot-air buffoons
Like Olby and all of his fans

Excuse me,

Wasn't the other DUMBFUCK, aka BovineQueen, saying that 4000 DEAD AMERICAN TROOPS mean nothing?

LAUAR meet BOVINE.

Just let us know after you BU$HWIPES have finished ripping apart the Republican party.

Laura, I just went to funeral whose life wasted (as in cut short early for no defensable reason) by a war that should never have been fought....He happened to be my brother in Law...and his angry widow believes the same thing I believe (both about Vietnam and Iraq).

Now I want YOU to go to that same funeral you asked me to go to and tell their family that their son's life was worth whatever it was he was fighting for in Iraq!

Now are you too chickenshit to do that....coward?

Edwards is hated in his own state worse than you are hated here, hahahahahahaha

Mike the doorbell is ringing but be careful, its probably perverted justice at the door

Asshat, unreal..Mike is probably one of those guys who listens to Al Sharpton and goes wow thats deep, or Jess Jackson, or any other racemongerer in the democratic party,

See that Mike? I gave u credit for having a mind, now if thats really perverted justice at the door I may have to take it back

Ever notice Mike has an uncanny knack to tying EVERY topic thats written here to himself, in a small attempt to make himself seem relevant?

If you listen to this turd, you would think he actually had a life

Sharon, I'd like you to explain your post.

While I readily admit that some liberals use that same kind of logic, Benson was not referring to the mindset of liberals, nor was he making the point you tried to make.

Benson was clearly stating that he thought he could read one thing into a statement when the speaker had actually said something entirely different.

Mike,

I am sorry for your loss, but from what I remember, your b-i-l served in Vietnam and suffered effects from that war. (Your comment above was not clear on that point). You think the same about both wars, but it is only fair to specify to which war you are referring. You may find them one and the same, but others don't. L.B. was clearly talking about Iraq.

"The Iraqi people were starving and dying of diseases while Saddam was taking shits in gold plated toilets... . Some act as if the people lived so well under Saddam. "

Given Laura's other posts here I would have expected her to categorize the starving, diseased Iraqis as lazy, unemployed losers, and Saddam as a high-achieving entreprenuer. Who'd have thought this barbaric skank was so senitive to issues of economic inequity - but only in other countries. Saddam's position in his society was due entirely to Ameican patronage - we set him up and armed him, and helped dispose of his enemies. Gerge HW Bush explicitly issued permission for him to launch attack helicopters in 1992 to wipe out the hundreds of thousands of rebelling Shia and Kurds that we had incited to rebellion. Since the Gulf War, Clinton waged economic warfare against the poorest and most vulnerable Iraqis through sanctions and continual bombings of water purification infrastructure - killing a documented half-million children. The idea was that these trampled people would overthrow Saddam to end the sanctions, but it never happened. We had made him too strong.

Its time to cast off the two-party tyranny we live under, that represents only the fortunes of the fabulously wealthy and the vicarious, nationalistic bloodlust of moronic monsters like Laura.

It's funny how some of those who like to attack me on a personal level (instead of taking on my arguments), are too cowardly to give themselves a name that can be tied back to them later.

It's called troll and run!

Saddam's position in his society was due entirely to Ameican patronage -

Didn't Saddam have his place in that society before GHW Bush?

You mean to tell me you just lost your brother in law days ago or so in the war, and your on the internet ....HmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmOk, me who lives in the normal world might want to put the internet away for a few days if that was the case

Im no troll, your scum and ive called you on every turn youve taken here and will continue to do so

Oh yeah I just got back from a Funeral, let me go on Olberman watch.....Your either completely gone in your own despair, or just MORE of a GIANT JACKASS than I could have even ever begun to fathom

You are the troll dickus, you cant even put the internet away in your family's "supposed" hour of need

Sharon, the anger felt by my Christian fundamentalist CONSERVATIVE sister (the one who just lost her husband) towards this administration and THIS war actually dwarfs my own. She and I both see Iraq as a repeat of the Vietnam mistake. There are many, many people out there like us....and yes, they include both liberals and conservatives.

In honor of Your Buttboy leader Olbermann who fancies himself Bill O's Virus

So U can refer to me as Mike's Virus

Now I want YOU to go to that same funeral you asked me to go to and tell their family that their son's life was worth whatever it was he was fighting for in Iraq!

Now are you too chickenshit to do that....coward?

Posted by: Mike at August 8, 2007 3:10 PM

I have seen, heard and read about countless parents of fallen soldiers justifying the war in Iraq ate the same time mourning the loss of their loved ones. The cindy sheehans are few and far between to almost non-existent.

I posted KeithOs words verbatim...
Now if you can in your heart say that Keith did not tie the Iraq war to the failing of the infrastucture, you really are an apologist regardless of the facts.

Keith could have talked about the failing infrastucture is the result of insufficient funds. BUT he equated to the insufficient funds, because of the war. The facts are that FEDERAL funding for the highways have increased the 6 years of Bush's administration. Regardless of the spending on the war.

So YES Keith was blaming the war for being to blame for the bridge. Its called countdown item #3 from Friday. Yet you continue to argue the point. Its absurd.

Although I did NOTt call you an idiot in my initial post, I did think it was riddiculous for you to call others an idiot in light of Olbermanns own words.

KEITH O QUOTE: "Earlier today, Minnesota Governor Amy Klobuchar referred to the, quote, “Messed up priorities of spending half a trillion dollars in Iraq while bridges crumble at home.”

New York Congresswoman Louis Slaughter joined the connection even tighter, calling the bridge victims, quote, “almost victims of war” because our, quote, “perpetual war depletes the funds available to maintain our infrastructure.”

By some estimates, bringing all of America‘s bridges up to satisfactory condition would take nearly $190 billion. The Iraq war now estimated at costing about half a trillion dollars."

You kill me now, Joey bag of liberalism has a Christian Fundamentalist in his family

The other day, I lost my entire family of Mormon wives in a giant wind that just swooped down out of the sky and flew them all away

Anon 3:24: "I'm no troll"

Yes you are. You're nothing but a troll...and a damned coward....so much of a coward you won't even use a name.

ALL you do is curse, name call, and insult those you disagree with, and have yet to put up a coherent argumen or rebuttal.

Yes, you are nothing but a troll and a coward.

For someone who comes to a site devoted to exposing the lies of one Keith Olbermann, you're really quite the piece of work to call someone else a troll Mike. It's what you DO here, day in and day out. And you get pissed very easily when anyone exposes you or your beloved Olbermann for the lying hypocrites you are. But hey, the two of you can always be counted on for a few cheap laughs.

Benson:

Quote and requote all you want, but the best you have your own conclusion that there is an inference of Keith "blaming Bush" by quoting opinions that money could be better spent at home. You are doing nothing but proving my point.

Thats called reporting the news!

Biased?....maybe....but he was still reporting the actual opinions of other prominent Americans who themselves were not even "blaminf Bush" per se.

Maybe this really is the difference between me and the muddy thinking Olby Haters. You people like to "read between the lines" far too often and then convert your interpretations into actual quotes (or misquotes). I've seen it far too many times.

Ok genius lets argue

Call me crazy

I cant begin to fathom that you , yes you Mike, troll here on a board were we as ONE and not the lipstick liberals who post here such as yourself, HATE OLBERMANN

Ok Ill take it for fact that you indeed think you are a smart guy

I'll grant you you lost someone in the Iraq WAR, in my neck of the woods, we put the internet away then, you are such a basket case to see what people write about you that you can't even supress your own ego

This is where I come in

I call you on All your Bullshit, Your uncanny knack for tying yourself to every godamm topic thats dicussed here

That makes me a coward?
I think not

I disagree with alot of people here, you are the only one who gets the hammer, because you sir, are full of the proverbial bullshit

If that makes me a coward so be it, this website was born for those of us who hate OLBERMANN, has nothing to do with black white plaid green gay straight right left, this website is to call bullshit on Olbermann

In fact You sir are SO full of shit, it's a wonder how you see straight.

Mike,

I don't find it a stretch to say that Ko's point was this: if billions of dollars were not spent on the war ("Bush's war"), then it would have been available to address infrastructure, like bridges.
It is not the ONLY issue that Bush has gotten blamed for, but just one.

Regarding the funeral, I said nothing about conservatives/liberals, only a suggestion to clarify that you went to a funeral for a Vietnam vet.

HAve to run for now...

Isn't that funny...someone just now naming himself "not an anon" protesting being called an anon.

These July cable rankings of the Top 20 shows among adults 25-54 pretty much speak for themselves:

Net____ Program________________________ Viewers
FOX___ THE OREILLY FACTOR______________375
FOX___ HANNITY & COLMES________________362
FOX___ ON THE RECORD W/GRETA__________351
FOX___ FOX AND FRIENDS__________________318
FOX___ THE OREILLY FACTOR (RPT)__________303
FOX___ THE FOX REPORT W/S.SMITH_________292
FOX___ AMERICAS NEWSROOM______________279
FOX___ SPECIAL REPORTW/BRIT HUME_______263
CNN___ LARRY KING LIVE___________________ 252
FOX___ LIVE DESK W/M.MACCALLUM_________235
FOX___ FOX NEWS LIVE_____________________ 224
FOX___ FOX & FRIENDS FIRST_______________ _223
MSNBC_ MSNBC INVESTIGATES (RPT)_________215
FOX___ STUDIO B W/S.SMITH________________ 209
MSNBC_ MSNBC REPORTS (RPT)______________207
CNN___ ANDERSON COOPER 360______________205
FOX___ THE BIG STORY W/J GIBSON__________ 204
CNN___ LOU DOBBS TONIGHT_________________203
FOX___ YOUR WORLD W/NEIL CAVUTO_________198
MSNBC_ COUNTDOWN W/ K. OLBERMANN______185
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: royalking at August 8, 2007 11:54 AM

RK,

Why didn't you show the top 40 or 50? Why..why...why? Could it be that you cherry picked the list so that it would show KO in last place? Um..oh...nevermind..the list states that it is the top twenty and KO is # 20. Silly me.

Mike is a loon. No matter how many times you point out Keith's Mikey Moore-esque use of facts, he comes back with "nuh unh. YOU are."

AAP- I have no hate, I have hate for bullshit artists such as Mike, and KO...We stand as one of all color, all creeds, all nationalities who hate Olbermann, if you hate Olbermann you can bury chickens heads in the dirt and do a rudeness like Mike does when no one is looking

See this is problem with those with small minds, you get painted into being democrat or republican, its not about that at all

There you go Mike, you so small minded dweeb you are on Olbermann watch after a horrific accident in your family

Ill look for you to get carried away next time a big wind comes down from the sky, and you can come back from Lollipop land and tell us all about it

I have no hate for anyone here but this idiot who ties everything to him, thats the operating technique of a man trapped in his own basement, imho

AAP- I have no hate, I have hate for bullshit artists such as Mike, and KO...We stand as one of all color, all creeds, all nationalities who hate Olbermann, if you hate Olbermann you can bury chickens heads in the dirt and do a rudeness like Mike does when no one is looking...FOR ALL I WOULD CARE, if you Hate Olby you stand here

I have no hate...Well, except when i do...

Thank you Troll #1, there is my point, the modus operendi of a home locked idiot living in a basement with mom paying his freight at 40 or 50

Anon name caller 3:37:

Trust me, you haven't pissed me off. Don't compliment yourself. It would take more than the likes of a troll like yourself who's idea of making an argument is to see how many names you can call your opponent.

First off, I never said, or even implied that I just lost someone in the Iraq war. You really should try a reading and comprehension course. The one I did actually refer to was from the Vietnam War from the long lingering effects of agent Orange. Nor did I say or even imply it just occured in the last couple of days (it's actually been two months).

You make the common mistake of many right wingers of thinking you can psychoanalize me or any other opponent...trust me you can't!

As far as your "hammering" me....when are you going to start? Because I haven't even felt a tap yet.

And yes, you will remain a coward as long as you hide behind multiple contrived names instead of standing up for what you believe using a name in which your previous words can be measured against your current ones....as I'm willing to do.

As for your recurring "this site is for Obermann haters...go away" whining....can it. The operators of the site have made the decision that they wand a diversity of opinion as well as a counterpoint. Thay could have chosen otherwise...so go whine tio them....coward!

Doublespeak-You?

You make me blush sometimes you cad you

Actually Troll, I like Michael Moore. We need more like him. I would prefer that he shave and dress a little more 'conservative' while pointing out conservative hypocrisy though.

Saddam's position in his society was due entirely to Ameican patronage -

Didn't Saddam have his place in that society before GHW Bush?

Posted by: Sharon at August 8, 2007 3:22 PM

Yeah - ever heard of Ronald Reagan? Seen the picture of Rummy shaking his hand within two months of the Al Habja Kurd-gassing? The Iraq/Iran war? He was our baby in the region following the Hostage crisis.

"Laura, I just went to funeral whose life wasted (as in cut short early for no defensable reason) by a war that should never have been fought....He happened to be my brother in Law...and his angry widow believes the same thing I believe (both about Vietnam and Iraq).

Now I want YOU to go to that same funeral you asked me to go to and tell their family that their son's life was worth whatever it was he was fighting for in Iraq!"

Mike,
The fact that your BIL died from the effects of AO is not clearly stated in your post. When referencing a past event (VN War), it should be clearly stated. Referencing a "war that should never have been fought" in today's conversation would most certainly be interpreted as the war we are currently waging. It may be more your writing style than the reader's ability to 'read and comprehend.' When a message is misunderstood in conversation, it ultimately falls on the sender of the message to clearly state his/her position.

Mike,
It doesn't surprise me in the least that you like Spongemike Sweatpants. He doesn't like presenting the truth or facts, either. His 'Fullofcrap 9/11' has been discredited beyond any realm of actual fact it is more a parody than a documentary.

It was Nam and Not Iraq you got me bro your intellect has cut me deep

HOWEVER.....

You Just lost your brother in Law
And you Troll here to see what people have written about you.

That makes you still, an idiot, and yes, where I come from (Not mom's basement btw) we turn the internet off for a little bit when there's a loss

Your SUCH an ass, you can't even honor his memory by shutting the computer off

Your the worst kind of human being

As for people of divergent views who post here, if you bother to look at all the posts here, I only post about you, I could care less what other people have to say here, other than you, I am obsessed with what an ass you are, and I will call you on your every turn

So Ok pal, touche' you got me, but what a qwinky dinkle that you lost someone just in time for when the discussion turned to military funerals, what a qwinky dinkle

Actually Troll, I like Michael Moore. We need more like him. I would prefer that he shave and dress a little more 'conservative' while pointing out conservative hypocrisy though.

Posted by: Mike at August 8, 2007 3:58 PM

Seen "Sicko" yet? Devastating to the corporatocracy.

"if you bother to look at all the posts here, I only post about you"

And just how would I verify that, you coward? You change your name every post.

Beff: Yes, I've seen "Sicko". It's very good. I was glad to see that he took on so many of the intentional right wing myths and distortions about single payer healthcare systems.

A coward is someone who wouldnt speak directly to you

I talk only to you

Shut the computer off and go , ahem, "grieve" will u please? show me something that you arent the egomaniac that I know you are, trapped in moms basement railing at the world on the internet waiting for the check to come so you can go buy a tallboy at the piggly wiggly

Ahhhhh, yes. That lovely Cuban health care system...
http://espanol.netforcuba.org/Enfoque/0035-SaludPublica-Cuba.htm

"I only talk to you"....

You sound mentally ill. You even said you were 'obsessed' with me. Get some help!

If I were the egomaniac you claim I am, you would certainly be feeding that ego right now, wouldn't you?

And trust me....you aren't bothering me one bit.....You're not mentally capable of pulling my chain.....in fact, this is more amusing than anything else.

You are so deep man, so deep, How's Mom today and life picking your feet ?

How soon before we get a post that your mormon sister in law lost her fundamentalist christian husband in the earthquake that rocked indonesia today

Bullshitter fool, keep posting here so i can have my fun, calling you at all turns

MSNBC's Olbermann-moderated debate averages less than one million viewers. Only 914,000 tune-in... Lowest rated debate of the 2007 political season... Developing

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha....eveb with that he doesnt beat O Reily BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I'm sure twice that number in the money demo TiVo it and will catch up tonight.

And trust me....you aren't bothering me one bit.....You're not mentally capable of pulling my chain.....in fact, this is more amusing than anything else.

Posted by: Mike at August 8, 2007 5:00 PM

Needle skipping on record........hurry up and fix it. Same thing, different day.

One last note anon coward, since you claim I make eveything "about me":....Nothing I post using myself as an example is really about me at all...........................................................

It is about destroying sacred but patently false right wing stereotypes. Once your silly cherished stereotypes collapse, your whole house of cards collapses along with them.

Now I want YOU to go to that same funeral you asked me to go to and tell their family that their son's life was worth whatever it was he was fighting for in Iraq!

Now are you too chickenshit to do that....coward?

Posted by: Mike at August 8, 2007 3:10 PM

I have seen, heard and read about countless parents of fallen soldiers justifying the war in Iraq ate the same time mourning the loss of their loved ones. The cindy sheehans are few and far between to almost non-existent.

Crickets........

"I have seen, heard and read about countless parents of fallen soldiers justifying the war in Iraq ate the same time mourning the loss of their loved ones. The Cindy sheehans are few and far between to almost non-existant."

Of course they do! Who wants to believe their loved ones dies for nothing?

Everything gets painted into Right or Left, you automatically assume because I dont like Olbermann Or YOU, that I am a part of a right wing stereotype

Wrongo ....You couldnt begin to examine or define what my political affiliations are...See the problem is that there even are political affiliations in this country that define you as left or right

But it is a complete sentence and I will give you partial credit on that

You on the other hand remain, a loser sitting home in his house, lost in his own despair, such a loser that off a death in your family you would attempt to exploit it here

My silly sterotypes, ha, I have hit you with everything under the sun and will continue to do so...and the needle gonna skip skip skip until you admit what you are, an asshat trapped in his basement waiting on his check bothering his feeble mom

Of course they do! Who wants to believe their loved ones dies for nothing?

Posted by: Mike at August 8, 2007 5:52 PM

The VERY few that have thought that have said that, i.e. sheehan. I wouldn't expect you to get the point. Then you would have to admit you were just spewing off at the mouth, again. With no proof, of course.

In the Valerie Lakey case, they held [the manufacturer] responsible because their grate wasn't there! It was missing. To me, it's like somebody shooting someone and holding the gun manufacturer responsible. [Rising insurance and health-care costs] are the result of these frivolous lawsuits. I think it's completely out of hand. They're holding people accountable for things that were out of their control. ... So when he said a 2-cent screw would've prevented the accident, I think that was oversimplifying the matter.

Joe Cohen

President, Fail-Safe, LLC,

Aurora, Colo.

"Everything gets painted into left or right, you automatically assume that because I don't like Olbermann or YOU that I am part of a right wing stereotype."

You really aren't very smart at all are you?

Where did I call YOU anything political?...Either left OR right. Remember, you were too cowardly to actually take a position on anything - you just wanted to hurl ridiculous personal slurs about me. The FACT is I don't give a damn about you....or what you believe or think, and I never said I did.

I SAID that I have discussed my personal circumstances as a way of attacking sacred but false right wing stereotypes. YOU must be the egomaniac if you automatically assumed that applied to your insignificant and sorry self.

Many if not MOST of my personal circumstances would imply I should be a conservative, based on cherished stereotypes that I hear all the time, and that is the only reason I have ever mentioned any of my personal circumstances on this blog..

so my obsessed and not so smart cowardly troll,.....I don't give a damn what you think about ME, Olbermann, OR what your political views might be.

Get it now....oh bright one?

It is about destroying sacred but patently false right wing stereotypes. Once your silly cherished stereotypes collapse, your whole house of cards collapses along with them.

The use of the word YOUR here, doesnt imply me? And that I am a member of that?

Fuck you moron, you are an idiot, My condolences to your mother for having to put up with you

What catastrophe are you gonna tie yourself next to? How you parachuted out of the towers on 9-11? You were on the bridge but got off just in time? You and Sean Penn were brandishing shotguns saving people in NO?

Please man before its too late and Chris Hansen really does catch you....

I feel sorry for how pathetic you really are and though as long as you continue to post here, you will be reminded of that

"Fuck you moron, you are an idiot, My condolences to your mother for having to put up with you"........LMAO!

- "Fuck you moron": Now there's a great inciteful comeback. You did yourself proud with that one!.....Strike 1!

- "you are an idiot": If YOU say so, it must be so. So far you've said nothing to prove that YOUR not the one who is tha actual idiot...just call me names and make stupid about insults about me and my family, both of whom you know nothing about.....Strike 2!

- "My condolences to your mother for having to put up with you.".....Actually she wishes I would visit or call more often but my business keeps me from doing as much of that as I'd like.....Strike 3!

- "Please man before its too late and Ghris Hansen really does catch you".....Wait a minute. You were already out!

Listen Einstein, if your goal is to 'hammer' me, you've done a pretty damn poor job of it so far....but it has been somehwat amusing, and thats the only reason I've even given you the time of day.

Now go ahead....call me an idiot again you pathetic loser!

Always with you its you say one thing and mean another, you present comedy of high order.

from Drudge:

MSNBC's Olbermann-moderated debate Tues. night averages less than one million viewers! Only 914,000 tune-in... Lowest rated debate of the 2007 political season... Developing...

So the oranged tinted putz failed yet again. His Countdown to no ratings disaster sails nightly in search of an iceberg to put his failed disaster of a show out of its no ratings misery, the radio show he appeared on got no rartings and weas dumped by ESPN---how much longer will lefty NBC allow this failure to go on?How many more ratings disasters will olbytard have to come in dead last till the lefties at NBC get the message---Keith is a loser who could not get an extra viewer if he went out with a giant butterfly net .
Speaking of insects---how stupid is lefty Alter? Was it his brains or his hair that fell out? I know--you are going to say that lefty Alter was always a dolt---recalling his laughable electiion night in 2000--when he stated that Al Gore was the next president under our Constitution since he got the most popular votes---and Browkawand Tin Russret squashed him then laughed at how stupid lefty Alter really was.
Oh well, it's nice to see the orange moron fail once again.But good newws for the orange putz--Paula Zahn left so at least she won't beat Coubtdown to no ratings anymore--someone new will be beating the most hated man at ESPN.

You present the equivalent of Im rubber your glue? that's the best you have?

Your business of what? Internet Porn?

You pathetic twit of a human being, You project yourself like a lonely feeble man that you are. Ill even grant you you lost someone in your family and you race home to Olbermann watch to share it with the world? Put the damm internet away numskull

Your a pathetic, internet addicted twit

That said, you and your witty intelligence provided great fodder today, you bring the comedy of the highest order, I look forward to tomorrow when you tell the world more of your genious

Keep trying my name changing but not so smart obsessed little troll. Why, I could almost report you for stalking if I were the least bit bothered by your ridiculous drivel.

Your posts are sounding more and more shrill as we go along.

"What have you not questioned George Bush."

"Well, well well, I knew I could get you like a lunker with a buzz bait."

"Removed Jet Blue from the faggot convention luv fest for muther hunchers."

I'm sure anyone who writes like this would know 'good' science from 'junk' science.

Shheeeeeeooooooot Hillbilly! Does your dirty-faced barefoot daughter introduce you as 'uncle daddy'?

Time to scratch your fetid pale beer-belly, make a head-cheese sandwich and NOT feel remorse about sleeping with your sister.

It's okay to NOT believe in evolution Laura, it's clearly NOT happening with you.

Go Stillers!

"But it is a complete sentence and I will give you partial credit on that"

Interesting sentiment coming from someone who not only doesn't know how to spell but doesn't even use punctuation.

It's called a period. It goes on the end of a sentence. It's a couple spots to the right of the 'm' key on your keyboard.

You are an embarrassment to whatever 'political affiliation' you are hiding behind.

914,000 to view the Olbermann moderated democratic debate.

As usual, the man insists on bringing up the rear. Failure, thy name is Olbermann.

Lol. Classic.

And the ratings prove it, the lowest ratings for any debate thus far, courtesy of MISTER Olbermann.

Yeah, that does PROVE it.

Olbermann's not nearly the 'threat' you guys make him out to be.

You are in the same mould as Dick Cheney and Bill Kristol.

Posted by: Clucker at August 8, 2007 7:47 PM

Mrs. Philby, I'll take that as a compliment. That's the nicest thing anyone has said to me all day. On another note, could you please tell me or show me where I "implied" that not enough troops have died? That's the most absurd thing anyone has "implied" period. Desperate, indeed.

Keith blamed Bush for the bridge collapse in Minnesota. Just like he blamed the shooting massacre at Virgina Tech on Bush. That's what Keith does. He's a left wing water carrier.

Clucker,

I didn't catch what RK said about troop loss but I have heard complaints before about comparing the low number of casualties now to past conflicts/wars. Here is part of Buchanan's recent piece, out of context, but referencing casualty numbers. Keep in mind Buchanon's position against the war. It is not minimizing the significance of lives lost to point out such a fact:

Abroad, the United States fights two guerrilla wars that have not yet taken the lives of as many soldiers as we lost putting down a Philippine insurrection a century ago. Yet, an ex-chief of staff says the U.S. Army is "breaking."

***

Here is what follows, so that the point he was making is clear (the casualty reference was in this context):

Query: If those "savage wars of peace," in Kipling's phrase, can break our army of 500,000, how in heaven's name can this little army fulfill war guarantees and treaty commitments to fight for 25 NATO nations, Israel, the Arab Gulf, Taiwan, South Korea and Japan?

We are committed to police the world. Yet, we have an Army that is "breaking," as presidential candidates bray about attacking Iran, a nation three times as large and populous as Iraq, and invading Pakistan, a Muslim nation of 170 million with atom bombs.

Whom are we kidding? (Buchanan)

James: "Keith blamed Bush for the bridge collapse in Missesota":

That is an outright lie. He NEVER blamed Bush for the bridge collapse!

On the very day following the collapse, I rebutted predictions that he was going to blame Bush. I also predicted that even if he didn't, you guys would go ahead and SAY he balmed Bush anyway.

I was right in both predictions.
James again: "Just like he blamed the Virginia Tech Massecre on Bush": Once again, that is a lie,....unless you like stretching the truth well beyond the breaking point.

Come to think of it, thats exactly what this site does.

Yeah - ever heard of Ronald Reagan? Seen the picture of Rummy shaking his hand within two months of the Al Habja Kurd-gassing? The Iraq/Iran war? He was our baby in the region following the Hostage crisis.
Posted by: Sir Loin of Beef at August 8, 2007 4:02 PM

Saddam's position in his society was due entirely to Ameican patronage...

I see "entirely" as the problematic word. If you believe we made him "too strong" what was to be done with him? What is your view of diplomacy with other similar regimes? What kind of ties? It sounds like past administrations tried to keep Saddam "happy" (I am not agreeing with those tactics) then he got out of control (invaded Kuwait). Then it was containment via sanctions, air strikes, ... .Wouldn't you say that the current Bush had a completely different mindset than his father? I think it has been said often here that Bush should have obtained his father's advice. WHoever was advising the senior Bush gave different advice than whoever advised junior. Which Bush eliminated Saddam?

"Dumb shit didn't listen to Daddy, and now tens of thousands are dead and the whole region has been destabilized."

Dude, try a million. "tens of thousands" is the estimate of the pentagon, who have declared they keep no such records in the first place. Johns Hopkins et al have another, more methodological estimate.

http://www.milligazette.com/dailyupdate/2007/200703061_One_million_Iraqi_deaths_americans.htm

Come to think of it, thats exactly what this site does.

Posted by: Mike at August 8, 2007 9:41 PM

Especially when you post.....

Why,

The context of the point had nothing to do with pride. It was to show that there was not a consistent line of strategy from Reagan to the current Bush president.

Clucker,

I hear what you are saying but you were not responsive to the point of casualties. Regarding Bush's failure to admit mistakes? Concerning anything related to the war, I agree with him. Now is not the time. Just fix them. I see a difference with Gates in, Rumsfeld out. I liked General Abizaid but I think Petreus appears to be better suited for the job. I think Bush should have apologized for such a late reaction to Katrina. Failure to admit mistakes is a trait I see all the time in people. Many people don't unless absolutely forced.

Sharon, philby and mike were throwing around the "sending our soldiers to sure death to fight a needless war" crap and I came back with the fact that there are 1.8 mil servicemen versus less than 4000 deaths and they both (mainly philby) have been putting words in my mouth ever since. If I had the time to find and re post what I said I would, but, I have to get back out to tend to horses.

I figured it was something like that, R.K. That is why I quoted Buchanan. Your horses are more important than this site, as our my kids. Bye!

as "are"my kids (dufus me)

Jeff, I never posted a word about your infamous "I.8 million serveicmen VS less than 4000 deaths" remark....not one!

In fact, I haven't even seen it.

Quit lying!

Cee....gloating about more Americans being forced to die for no coherent reason.

Posted by: Mike at August 6, 2007 9:32 PM

Last I checked, our military was ALL volunteer, no one is forced. 3800 casualties out of 1.8 mil does not fall in the "forced to die" category. That's almost as asinine as your "certain death" theory of a few months back. Remember that one? STO made the original post and you defended it. Secondly, 99% of the 1.8 milllion troops would disagree with your "no coherent reason" theory.

Posted by: royalking at August 7, 2007 1:01 AM

The post you saw, but, avoided like the plague.

His need to "relate", shows that he thinks we're his friends.
Come to think of it, we might be his only friends.
Poor pitiful chap !

Posted by: at August 9, 2007 12:18 AM

patsy, wrong, wrong and wrong.

Jeff, I never posted a word about your infamous "I.8 million [serveicmen]sic VS less than 4000 deaths" remark....not one!

In fact, I haven't even seen it.

Quit lying!

Posted by: Liar at August 8, 2007 11:09 PM

Lets analyze this.
First, he says he never posted a word about the post in question. Which means he saw it, just didn't respond. Next, he claims he never saw it? Then, resorts to calling rk a liar. Quit while you are a "head," Mike.

patsy, what took you so long? Man, you must have had your keyboard smokin' all day long and you finally dug one up! Did you find it at huffpo or media matters?

Nope, far left houston chronicle. I know, I used to live there.

Jeff defending himself while posting as an Anon at 12:50 Am: "First, he said he never posted a word about the post in question. Which means he saw it, just didn't respond. Next he claims he never saw it. Then resorts to calling rk a liar. Quit while you are a "head", Mike."

Jeff, your unbounded stupidity never ceases to amaze. Lets analize your most recent emission of stupidity in detail:
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First, you say: "First he claimed he never posted a word about the post in question"

As I stated already, I DIDN'T respond to the post in question. No, not one word....not one comment! I admit to sometimes making more than my share of comments on this board, so what is your motive in accusing me of making comments I didn't even make?
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Then you say: "which means he saw it, just didn't respond"

How stupid can you possibly get? I DIDN'T see the comment, or whatever instigated it. I DID however, see some of the many follow - up comments, but I chose not to respond to a thread in which I had never seen the instigating comment. Believe it or not, I don't see all the comments made on this board.

Now, is that concept too difficult for you to grasp?
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Followed by this: "Then, resorts to calling rk a liar"

I called you a liar because you lied Jeff....again!
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"Quit while you are a "head", Mike"

I probably SHOULD quit Jeff, because arguing with you is the equivalent of arguing with a lunatic.

You routinely lie to cover up your previous lies.....You lie to others in order to try to defend your legendary stupidity.....You even resort to lying about others when they leave you alone.....Finally, you lie when calling others liars.
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You may not like my politics Jeff, but I take truth very seriously, and anybody who really knows me would tell you that.

Unlike you Jeff, I have NEVER told a lie on this board. That said, I will readily admit that, like everyone else, I have occasionally been guilty of posting something that later proved to be inaccurate.....but I have admitted my mistake each time it happened.

Jeff, just because YOU have proven a hundred times that YOU believe lying is acceptable, doesn't mean that I do.

Get it now Jeff? I never saw your original comment...and therefore I never commented on it....as I stated in the first place.

Now go forth and try to quit lying Jeff....you're not even good at it.

"Mike" just beat philby for having the longest diversion thrown in with a couple lies. No, I wasn't defending myself. Any proof? That's what I thought. Other people see your idiocy, too. You are right, I don't lie, therefore, I'm not good at it. You, on the other hand.

"I'm leaving and never coming back!"
"I don't defend Olbermahn!" at least 30 times.
"I was driven to defend him by you guys!"
Mikes infamous lines.

Jeff: "I don't lie" = another lie.

You can't even defend your latest lie. Show me where I commented on you infamous 4000 deaths post, as you claimed I did?

Olbyloons even lie about their not lying.

mike, I never said you actually posted or responded to my post, fool. Your desperation shows. If you would read instead of wringing your hands and yelling at your pc, I said "you avoided it like the plague." I know you get off on doing it, as does your buddy the fraud, philby, stop putting words in my mouth.

crickets.....