For advice on sex with a gay
Rachel Maddow has something to say
Miss Pot-Kettle-Black
Is on the attack
But same-gender sex is okay

When a Republican homo get caught
It doesn't make Rachel Maddow distraught
Her after hours name is really Rex
Not that she has very big pecs
But a bigger dick than Keith she has got

Hey sports fans. You will get a laugh out of this picture (unless you have no sense of humor) of Bond's steroid sized head as he casually leans over the dugout fence along with some teammates. The caption above reads: Bonds Breaks Hank Aaron's Record. http://lundesigns.com/

A topic like this needs a sage
An expert to inform, not enrage
There's Congressman Frank
That irascable crank
Who knows how to bend a page

Rachel Maddow and Michael Musto went on a date
And you will never believe who got ate
"Take me!" shouted the weird little guy
Maddow was on top; that is no lie
The next month Michael Musto was late

Hypocrisy is something to hate
Unless you're a gay-bashing neocon tempted by bait
Making some voters take notice
On a senator's true focus
How tricky the dicks are you folks will relate.

Why can't you spell,

Did you mean "RHODES Scholar"?

"Why can't you spell,

Did you mean "RHODES Scholar"?"

Nice. Attack the messenger, Rule 1 in the neocon handbook.
Is it time to kick some puppies now?

...at least someone here knows how to Google.
Hard to do without opposable thumbs, i might add.

heh... that's right.

Just because you can't spell "Rhodes" completely doesn't mean your daddy's friends can't help you be president some day.

"",

Somebody who can't spell Rhodes Scholar shouldn't accuse anybody else of not being one.

Hope I spelled your name right!

OK,

I hope you apply the same measure of exactness to the politicians you so dearly endorse.

Is to time to kick puppies now?

I want to see "Eeeeee! EEeeee! Cummings!" agent's technique.

Hope I spelled your name right!

Is it time to kick puppies now?

I want to see "Eeeeee! EEeeee! Cummings!" agent's technique.

Hope I spelled your name right!

Dude, you misspelled "it"

Do I need to find the Clinton dictionary for you for the proper spelling and usage?

That's not all. It's "NOT Eeeeee! Eeeeee! Cummings!" agent's puppy-kicking technique you want to see, dumb ass.

"",

Michael Vick killed dogs that didn't perform up to speed. Krazy Keith has been defending the guy. Better take up the "kick puppies" issue with Olby.

Exactly, not e e cumming's agent!

By that logic, only those who can correctly spell 'fag' or 'ass pirate' or 'homosexual' should engage in sodomy with a stranger in the washroom.

Are you Craig's "agent" too?

"",

I call that defending him.

You could share your hopes and dreams for the future of Michael Vick. I wish him ill. After all, he kicked puppies.

Vick would make a great Bush-approved US Attorney based on his puppy-kicking abilities. And his being arrested for it would surely put him on the fast track.

Another weak review or no review of the show..... must be E Schit's nite. Hey pal, if you can't do the fucking job, get someone to replace you that can . We are tired of your, "My VCR is on the fritz, or my cat ate the remote" excuses. You are the only thing more lame than the left wing piece of shit this blog is dedicated to cover. Give me a break!

"",

So you are saying that Michael Vick killed dogs but didn't kick any puppies. That makes a lot of sense. I guess I don't have enough nuance to keep up with you.

I think one of those puppies left us a present in here. Pew!

"",

I thought all doggies start out as puppies, even fighting doggies.

"Not EE should fire his agent and then find another occupation he might be good at."

I hear there's an opening or two available at The White House... Atlanta Falcons too, for that matter.

Damn, Maurice!

Look at them words a-flyin'.
Like shooting idiots in a barrel, again.

Wooweee!

"must be E Schit's night. Hey pal, if you can't do the fucking job, get someone to replace you who can...."

Well E Schatz, these are your OWN people cussing at you. What class they have! Makes you feel warm n' fuzzy all over, doesn't it? All because you're having a little trouble getting a personal hate piece out fast enough for em.

But you know how it is with sharks, don't you Schatz? A little blood in the water and......................................!!

Vick, you sick twisted f*ck.
Hate the sin, love the comment.

"All you Michael Vick haters out there...

Eat any beef?
veal ?
How about chicken?
Milk?
Wear any leather shoes?

Ever see the process that starts with the animal and ends up on your dinner plate and feet?"

Not me, although iIhave to admit watching bean curd fight can get pretty boring.

I think I've developed a taste for shark meat, reading this site.

"Ever see the process that starts with the animal and ends up on your dinner plate and feet."

So THIS is your defense of slamming innocent animals to death for fun and profit simply because they didn't perform up to a level necessary to satisfy your sick perverted obsession of watching bloodly mortal combat because you are too cowardly to do it yourself?

Man, that's gonna have to be one big-ass boat.
Is the Exxon Valdez available?

I'm thinking about the Crabby Patties I'm eating while wearing my shark-skin suit.

Although, food for thought is actually a rare and noble idea here.

"Brrrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaains!..."

"Sure is. Drive 3 miles down the river and look for the 30 mile oil slick."

I like you. Let's go fishing.

must be E Schit's night. Hey pal, if you can't do the fucking job, get someone to replace you who can...."

Well E Schatz, these are your OWN people cussing at you. What class they have! Makes you feel warm n' fuzzy all over, doesn't it? All because you're having a little trouble getting a personal hate piece out fast enough for em.

But you know how it is with sharks, don't you Schatz? A little blood in the water and......................................!!

Posted by: Mike at August 29, 2007 1:18 AM

Yeah, quite a change from the left wing blogs that purge any contrarian ideas. Speaking of which Mike, why aren't you participating in the nightly Olbermann circle jerk at Crooks and Liars?

Senator Craig's first words in his press conference were: "Thank you for coming out..." Consistently poor judgement.

"Speaking of which Mike, why aren't you participating in the nightly Olbermann circle jerk at Crooks and Liars?"

Because the mountains of right wing hypocrisy found right here is so much more fun!

"Sure is. Drive 3 miles down the river and look for the 30 mile oil slick."

Careful there, anon!
If not e e cumming's agent isn't too busy defending some closeted gay-bashing neocon congressman, he or she will surely catch the missing hyphenated '30-mile' in your post which will surely confuse the rest of us of your intended meaning! And if he or she subscribes to AP style, '3 miles' should appear as 'three miles.' Gotta spell out those single-digit numbers. Whew, that was close!

Not a peep about posters like o'liar,slob,patsy or any other of his hating cohorts. Just our daily dose of you know what........from you know who........

"
Yeah, quite a change from the left wing blogs that purge any contrarian ideas. Speaking of which Mike, why aren't you participating in the nightly Olbermann circle jerk at Crooks and Liars?"

Hey 'Wig,

Care to site some references or are you counting antisemitism and racial slurs as right-wing "contrarian ideas" like O'Reilly?

It's called food for thought, and what we do every single day in every single state to defenseless animals.
So before you get so self righteous about condemning Vick, think about what happens to the animal you re eating or wearing.

Posted by: at August 29, 2007 1:33 AM

Another spolbyloon/dog killer defender, nice.

"Speaking of which Mike, why aren't you participating in the nightly Olbermann circle jerk at Crooks and Liars?"

Because the mountains of right wing hypocrisy found right here is so much more fun!

Posted by: Mike at August 29, 2007 1:43 AM

Mike???? I wonder,..... you're not Michelangelo Signorelli are you? Maybe Mike Rogers?

Yep, food for thought has no place here.
Carry on!

Come to think of it, this is like watching a bean curd fight.

Do you guys work in shifts or is the rotation determined from the bathroom stalls?

"Brrrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaains!..."

Anyone that defends r. maddow should take a long hard look in the mirror at themselves. I only hope you aren't as ugly as she/it is while you are doing it.

You know, picking at the scabs only prolongs the healing process.

Hush, you quack!

The grown-ups are talking here.

Speaking of crooks and liars:

http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/144280.html

... tip of the gay iceberg for Craig?

"I overreacted and made a poor decision," Craig said.

...

"Officer! I don't know how this man's cock got into my mouth! It's not mine! I swear, it's not mine!"

Ann Coulter's a fiery little sex kitten.
I want to lick her adam's apple.
I bet Craig has her phone number.
(I wonder if (s)he's into loofahs).

I am so gay for Maddow.

Ew! a woman who uses her brain more than Craig has anonymous sex with other men! For shame.

I request a hard count on that claim, 2:15.
A rock-solid anonymous hard one, please.

"The homophobe right wing is out tonite. Must be getting close to another election."

Oh, sorry.
You said "election."
Nevermind.

Hey, Maurice.

I see the barrel, but where are the idiots?
Must be having the talking points read to them.

Yeeeeehaw!

Hey, Maurice.

I'm turning in, but I got me some bloody shark bait for later.
Fortunately for me, this bed of fish rarely migrates (maybe why they 'fraid of them there immigrants).

Will catch up with you on the back-side, but tell that Craig dude to stop staring at my family grapes. It's not that I'm proud or some such, but that guy's creeping me out.

Maddow?

Hell, I'd do her!

See? I'm NOT GAY!!

2:04, who cares? Did you have a crush on "Pat" from SNL, too?

I hadn't realized that blatant, criminal hypocrisy was such a significant family value for the GOP. Stupid liberal media, keeping me uninformed!

Wow, 2:44.

Did you hurt yourself drumming that one up?
Get a better writer, please.

Now now, 2:49.

Don't be mean. Obviously, 2:44 has trouble distinguishing fictional characters from actual people.

Hey!

W. just found Iran on the map!
Wheee! I smell another war coming!

I think that's the puppy's poo you're smelling, from earlier tonight.

Hell, it smells the same to me.
Me and "Pat" are going to enlist!

Well, good luck with that.
Don't step in any poo.

Anony 2:56:

"W. just found Iran on the map!

Wheee! I smell another war coming!"

END QUOTE

Um, when the Middle East explodes and gas goes to $20/gallon we will see how many wheeee's turning into tears you stupid asshat. YOu are just typicla liberal, as long as someone aint takin a shit in your 6x8' sandbox you think there is no threat. You couldn't even handle the fat kid in the movie Bad Santa if he came by and kicked sand in your face.

Anony 2:25:

GOP talking points for 08'( and 12' and 16' etc)

Guns, gays and more wars.

END QUOTE

AAP, why are you posting as anonymous. Are you a pussy? Have you been so discredited on this site you are afraid to even expose yourself as yourself? I mean, you pleaseure yourself so what's the big deal other than you aint getting any and that aint changing no time soon. Whiners don;t get nowhere.

If you and your fairy luvers think you can bother me with this Craig fag you are mistaken. If the allegations are true then I'll write him off as a liberal.

There in lies the big difference. If Craig was a liberal there would be no big deal. Hell, when a liberal get's in trouble the liberals in DC throw a party and circle the wagons (willie clinton, william jeffereson, Barney the Fag) and a stupid liberal voter will vote them back in office. Craig will leave and he will be asked to leave by Reublicans.

I flipped over to MSNBC a few times and it was Graig this and Craig that and a bunch of ugly liberals bloating as if anyone cared or if they were actually drawing any more viewers. It shows how much MSNBC really cares about the war in Iraq that they cover a fag.

Liberals are stupid.

MSNBC has more war coverage than any station...

ONLY when there isn't a trumped up republican scandal to cover... admit it... they jump at any scandal FIRST and then cover the unpopular war.

Gotta love the MSNBC pundits calling Craig a "sexual deviant"... way to pander to the gay community calling a homsexual a sexual deviant.

NOW that is hypocrisy...
Gay Republican = sexual deviant
Gay Democrat = locked in step voter

Ted Nugent has stepped out to the archery range!

Clinton shtooping an intern...
Marital Affair, Inappropriate Work Relationship
Dems say- "Leave his personal life outta this"

Craig trying to shtoop a cop...
Marital Affair, Gay
Dems- "FREAK- must go!"

Maybe you can catch him lying under oath!
"Clinton didn't lie under oath!"

Rachel Maddow was a Rhodes Scholar
But misguided dogs need a collar
On Craig she's punching
Yet carpet she's munching
Miss Maddow must hate Johnny Dollar

I love the Olbyloon who insists that it's "factually incorrect" to say that Olbermann defended Michael Vick when that is EXACTLY what he did--he gave a heated commentary imploring people to go easy on the guy that whatever punishment he gets was "punishment enough" and that he should be allowed to resume his NFL career and not be banned from the sport even though he clearly was running a gambling operation, betting on a sport, when the NFL rules say that if you are caught gambling on ANY "sport" you are then banned for life. But hey let's rewrite the rules say Olby for his buddy, that dog-killing thug, Michael Vick. If Olbermann beat a dog or two to death on air, the Olbyloons would say the dog had it coming.

"NUMBERS DONT LIE" from TVnewser:

August Ratings: The 8pm Picture
Keith Olbermann's year-to-year growth may be the story at MSNBC, but Countdown was still #3 at 8pmET. Even with CNN's hodge-podge of a schedule at 8 (Paula Zahn's last days, Out in the Open, CNN Special Reports, and an airing of Larry King) Olbermann trailed CNN in total viewers and the 25-54 demo. These are Nielsen LIVE numbers only, so they do not include DVR data, which Countdown generally benefits from.

— FNC — O'Reilly — 2,096,000
— CNN — Various — 727,000
— MSNBC — Countdown — 638,000

— FNC — O'Reilly — 420,000
— CNN — Various — 242,000
— MSNBC — Countdown — 218,000

This got buried by a thoughtful Grammie-Sharon discussion, I'll put it here to hopefully distract from all the homo stuff from anons that seems to be going on:

If anybody wants to go in a way-back machine...here are some remants of the KarmaBites1 blog...sadly the comments seem to be gone forever:

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=161677

Here are some choice posts from KarmaBites1:

"Other sites have mentioned that he wears a rug. Not true. He has the softest hair I've ever run my fingers through."

"There are a few ladies posting comments from the old Yahoo board(s) where Keith himself was an active poster. They have been kind enough to share some KO trivia; he was in love with someone other than himself at one time, he wrote a novel about the one who "got away" and he'd send the ladies on the board on-air messages. Feel free to use this thread as a reunion of sorts or just post whatever you want the rest of us to know about him." posted by KarmaBites1 at 3:42 PM 129 Comments

A former "date" of KO mentioned that he wears beads. Well, that's correct. I've found a picture similar to the one he wore on our night together. posted by KarmaBites1 at 1:00 AM 64 Comments

Yep, this is a screen shot from tonight's Countdown show. Whenever I check my statcounter there are always several IP's fron NBC. I hope his staff is having as much fun reading my blog as I have posting on it. Love the Countdown staff, hate the jerk who hosts it.

I've had over 70,000 hits at this site since it's debut. At this rate, I'll have more viewers than you in the ever important 25-54 demo. posted by KarmaBites1 at 9:41 PM 141 Comments

"I love the Olbyloon who insists that it's "factually incorrect" to say that Olbermann defended Michael Vick when that is EXACTLY what he did--he gave a heated commentary imploring people to go easy on the guy that whatever punishment he gets was "punishment enough" and that he should be allowed to resume his NFL career and not be banned from the sport. . ."

Spot on, Brandon. Olby goes foaming at the mouth apoplectic when accusing BOR of a repulsive act (supporting Nazis) that was a complete fabrication, but when he finally has a chance to go ballistic on something that truly should make all reasonable people outraged, Krazy Keith says we should go easy on Vick. For all you Olbyloons who will will go to any ridiculous lenghts to defend your Orange Hero and think that Keith's Sunday night comment on Vick was just fine, here's a little something to read and ponder:

"Financing a dog-fighting kennel and executing dogs who don't fight well enough are not mistakes. Deliberately killing even one dog is not a mistake. We're not talking here about the careless driving habits of Paris Hilton or Lindsey Lohan. We're talking about the cold-blooded cruelty required to participate in a sport which compels one dog to kill another dog or be killed by his master if he fails. Try to imagine yourself hanging a dog. Watch it jerk and shriek at the end of its leash. Watch it die. Can't imagine it? Join a very large club. But a very few people CAN imagine it. They can actually DO it. We're talking about something missing in the makeup of a human being. That something missing is not something you suddenly discover is missing when the government indicts you. It's just missing. It's an essential part of humanity you'll never have. Getting caught is not an opportunity for confession, redemption, and forgiveness. It's just exposure."

http://www.instapunk.com/archives/InstaPunkArchiveV2.php3?a=1109

Even Becky from Relevant Torture had "problems" with Keith Olbermann's Vick Special Comment. And she's one of the biggest Olbyloons out there...

Ted's off his meds, again.

news to distract,

Reposting in the same thread doesn't make the original more true, or interesting for that matter.

Looks like one of our southern neighbors looks favorably upon a Clinton-Obama ticket:

“HAVANA (Reuters) - Ailing Cuban leader Fidel Castro is tipping Democratic candidates Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama to team up and win the U.S. presidential election.Clinton leads Obama in the race to be the Democratic nominee for the November 2008 election, and Castro said they would make a winning combination."The word today is that an apparently unbeatable ticket could be Hillary for president and Obama as her running mate," he wrote in an editorial column on U.S. presidents published on Tuesday by Cuba's Communist Party newspaper, Granma.”

Castro likes Hillary/Obama. George W. Bush . . . not so much. It does seem that that Castro reads the Daily Kos and other far left fringe nut job web-sites as evidenced by this quote:

“Castro's only reference to U.S. President George W. Bush in his latest essay was to say that he "needed fraud" to win Florida's electoral college votes and the presidency in the fiercely contested election in 2000.”

He also has nice things to say about President Bill:

“Castro said former President Bill Clinton was "really kind" when he bumped into him and the two men shook hands at a U.N. summit meeting in 2000. He also praised Clinton for sending elite police to "rescue" shipwrecked Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez from the home of his Miami relatives in 2000”

Finally, there’s this:

“He said his favorite U.S. president since 1959 was Jimmy Carter, another Democrat . . . Sixteen years after Dwight Eisenhower broke off diplomatic ties with Cuba, Carter restored low-level relations in 1977.”

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN2825114320070829?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true

W. & Company are too far right, even for Castro.

"W. & Company are too far right, even for Castro."

When you read a reply like this to my 12:23 post, you know you are dealing with a hopeless basket case.

Castro's political viewpoints are, on the political spectrum, as far LEFT as it gets. This is why he speaks out favorbaly for Hillary, Obama, and Presidents Bill and Jimmy. Get it?

news to distract,

Reposting in the same thread doesn't make the original more true, or interesting for that matter.
Posted by: at August 29, 2007 12:10 PM

first response...seems it doesn't matter, you're still interested. (Orin, is that you?)

Olbermann is my favorite. I hope I can be guest on his show, we have interests in common, like Hillary is our favorite running for president and we like President Bill and Jimmy too. I hope he will hand me check when he does his interview with me.

Olby To Castro: Here's a check for 8 more schools Oh Great One! Do you have any Cuban Baseball Cards?

Where's A.C.C.S., Sir Loin, and the rest you say?

Probably hanging out at a New Jersey Turnpike Rest Stop waiting for Jim McGreevey to show up with his 'LOVE GOV. LIMO'!

Boy Senator Larry Craig better hurry up and change that R to a D or he's finished!

Limbaugh 20 million listeners

Hannity 15 million listeners

Maddow...........were scapping the bottom here but I'm sure we'll find one or two.

AAR what? About 40 stations now? I'm sure 40 board ops at 40 stations will step forward.

Won't they?

Can we find any Maddow fans or are they all in the Witness Protection Program?

We'll keep looking.

Didn't ARR pick up anybody when that great 'Jane Fonda' network went belly up last week?

Shocking! I mean the 'Jane Fonda Network' was on a whole EIGHT stations!

What a blow-torch of a network!

Get it? blow-torch.

************************************

Mike at 8-27-07 at 1:18 a.m.

Oh yeah, Mike like nothing happens to you if you don't stay in lock step with you're crowd. Tell me all about it.

There's Mike's truth

Then There's REALITY!

Just keep drinking Mike. The pain will go away.

I'm Fidel Castro and I approve this message.

GOP Senators Says Craig Should Resign
By TODD DVORAK, Associated Press Writer
1 hour ago

BOISE, Idaho - Two Senate Republican colleagues, including John McCain, called Wednesday for Sen. Larry Craig to resign. The White House, too, expressed disappointment in the case of the Idaho Republican caught in a men's room undercover police operation.

Arizona Sen. McCain and Sen. Norm Coleman of Minnesota, the state where Craig was arrested, became the first senators to join Rep. Peter Hoekstra, R-Mich., urging Craig's resignation.

McCain told CNN the decision was Craig's to make, "but my opinion is that when you plead guilty to a crime, you shouldn't serve. That's not a moral stand. That's not a holier-than-thou. It's just a factual situation."

"I think he should resign," McCain said.

Coleman said in a statement, "Senator Craig pled guilty to a crime involving conduct unbecoming a senator."

________________________________________________

It's comforting to see my conservative brothers still know right and from wrong and can make those painful necessary decisions when SOMEONE ELSE gets caught with their pants down.

The RepubliKKKan party is a mess.

When I was doing young boys, my Democratic colleagues in Congress asked me to resign . . . or maybe that was the Boy Scout Troop where I used to be scoutmaster. Oh well, I can always get on as assistant boy's choir director somewhere.

Whiners don;t get nowhere. If you and your fairy luvers think you can bother me with this Craig fag you are mistaken. If the allegations are true then I'll write him off as a liberal.
_____________________________________

I really don't have anything to say about this moment of sweet lucidity from the neocon formerly known as Laura Bush.

I just thought it should be reposted.

Hell, it should be on a T-Shirt.

"If the allegations are true then I'll write him off as a liberal."

Of course you will! Why would we suddenly expect honesty from you and yours.

econdly, by pursuing the course of action you outline, you have negated any possibility of turning this digusting episode into a growth experience, haven't you? You and your unspeakably corrupt and tawdry party will be forever living in a "culture of corruption" and you will be harming the nation as well. A very responsible and mature position you have taken.

Posted by: Clucker at August 29, 2007 8:58 PM

You do realize Craigs is being asked to resign by his fellow Republican pols and that you (and goodness knows, me....) are addressing some anonymous jackass on a blog board...right?....

"You do realize Craig is being asked to resign by his fellow Republican pols"

Yes, I respect that position also, because my fellow Democrats asked me to resign . . .or wait, no they didn't, that was the Boy Scout troop where I was an assistant Scoumaster.

Try to stay within this decade at least, GOP nutball.
This Craig story must be hitting a weak spot for you. Instead of dealing with yet another GOP gay hypocrite that preached family values, you need you dig up decades old news.

Posted by: at August 30, 2007 12:57 AM

But was Craig the family values preaching sort?

Everything I've read about Craig makes him sound like a fiscal conservative rather than a social conservative like former senator Rick Santorium.

He signed the Defense of Marriage Act, but then so did Bill Clinton and other Dems who supposedly support "gay rights" in order to appease the majority.

Craig won't be the last pol to be a hypocrite...or the last one to be caught living a double life.

The partisan left's defense of President Clinton having perverted, adulterous sexual contact in an office that has special symbolism and is part of a workplace has always been......"it was private sexual behavior between two consenting adults."

The hypocritical bloviating about Senator Craig is all on the left's side. I have been consistent, dear friends (especially Clucker and AAP (mental midget wanna be)): Craig and Clinton are both perverts who do not deserve respect of position publicly. Clinton should have resigned and Craig should resign.

Time frame is not an indicator of the strength of my argument regarding the hypocrisy of the left in this regard....especially the mental midgets on this board. "Pervert" is in the mind of the beholder, obviously.

I ask those calling Craig a pervert: Was President Clinton's admitted behavior perverted?

Honestly answer now....sexual preferences included....why is Craig a pervert and Clinton not one, if that is your conclusion?

Ahhhh, intellectual honesty is difficult, now isn't it.

Oh, and also let me point out that my other posts regarding this subject are in regards to the left's other hypocrisy regarding privacy/choice and the moral call to being an "out" individual with same gender sexual preferences. If this ain't an obvious one, then I don't know if there are any intellectually honest people on this board representing the radical fringe left.

One can argue that intercourse and oral sex between a consenting adult male and a consenting adult female is adulterous, if one or both of the parties are married, but I don't think you can label the acts "perverse". There is, however, something terribly revolting about an anonymous physical act between two (2) males in a public restroom. Perhaps, that is just my age showing. Indeed, I find Lesbian artificial insemination, a la the Cheney's a bit revolting as well.

Don't get me wrong, I am not approving of Clinton's actions. I merely quibble with your label, Cee.

Posted by: Clucker at August 30, 2007 2:11 PM

Well, it's interesting that you put the stipulation of gender on it.

I doubt you'd let a conservative get away with arriving at such a conclusion as this based upon that specification. Especially if the principal was a Dem..., but I digress...

Men have long solicited female prostitutes and anonymous female strangers of the nonprofessional sort, for sex in public-- including public bathrooms, parked cars, parks, etc.

It's not like this doesn't go on and that everyone doesn't know it and yawn...

Personally, I doubt your visceral reaction, that you say comes from age, is that at all. I'd venture it has everything to do with the politcal....eh.... "persuasion....." of Craig (and Mary Cheney's father...)

something terribly revolting about an anonymous physical act between two (2) males in a public restroom. Perhaps, that is just my age showing. Indeed, I find Lesbian artificial insemination, a la the Cheney's a bit revolting as well.

Don't get me wrong, I am not approving of Clinton's actions. I merely quibble with your label, Cee.

Posted by: Clucker at August 30, 2007 2:11 PM

McGreevy was trolling truck stops, revolting as well? What if it were 2 women in te bathroom, revolting? What about Melissa Ethridge, revolting? She's gay and was ai'd with some hippies/drug addicts semen. Ok? Oh, she donates to the (d) party, my mistake.

"One can argue that intercourse and oral sex between a consenting adult male and a consenting adult female is adulterous if one or both of the parties are married, but I don't think you can label the acts "perverse"."

###
Logic says you are factually wrong, Clucker. If one of the participants is married, they are commiting adultery. Fact. If they are unmarried, they are commiting fornication.
Fact. If they are achieving climax other than with coitus, it is defined as sodomy.....fact.

All of these definitions fall under sexual perversion....Like it or not, being a catholic, you know these are the facts, jack.

Obviously, the bedroom habits of the posters here seem to also be accepted public discourse, but let me just say that if you start calling what Craig did "perverse" you really have no way of avoiding the next logical question.....

What about what Bill Clinton and Monica in the oval office?

It is sad to see people actually not disgusted by a married man receiving oral sex from a much younger, impressionable and unpaid single woman who is undeer his supervision in the public's building. I was saddened then, and now I get to see the hypocrisy, just like with Congressman Foley's behavior....

The same, permissible leftist "progressives" who overlook perverted sexual proclivities label someone else "pervereted." Oh, the inconsitency!

All I am asking for is some intellectual honesty, Clucker.....you're better than this. Please just answer the question!

Nice rebuttal/diversion, why. Good spolbyloon.....I haven't looked at that website since the last time you brought it up, sounds like you read it much more than I do, which is twice! Any good updates?

RK forgot , as usual, to post the sources of his inspiration...

Posted by: Why don't you think at August 30, 2007 3:51 PM

He's both pot AND kettle.... :D

Now we're arguing about morality....

I'm out of here >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

###
Well anon, I just hope you are not one of the many chicken posters who called Craig a pervert.

Calling someone a pervert is always a moral argument.

And an argument that should make one uncomfortable.

Choose your arguments carefully.

Men have long solicited female prostitutes and anonymous female strangers of the nonprofessional sort, for sex in public-- including public bathrooms, parked cars, parks, etc.

Posted by: Cecelia at August 30, 2007 2:30 PM

At least now we know how Cecelia met her husband...

Chicken Blogger, you really are a pukey little prick, aren't you.

Grammie

Chicken Blogger, you really are a pukey little prick, aren't you.
Grammie
Posted by: Janet Hawkins at August 30, 2007 5:45 PM

WOW Grammie! Bust a move, baby! Which "chicken blogger' got your feathers in a bunch?

Anon at 5:45PM.....when I start tailoring my ethics based on what a political strategist is saying, I'll be a proud member of the leftwing of this country......

For now I will use another foundation for such judgements......

And Anon at 5:42PM......

You know, I have nothing to post except this.....

Shut up.

See Cee's admonition to the pukey little prick just above.

I don't even want to copy and paste it.

Grammie

Oh wait, anon at 5:45PM...I missed this....

"Self respecting republicans everywhere are cringing and deeply worried."

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And they are calling for Craig's resignation and Senate investigation. I am confident he will not last in public life and respect....

Unlike the adulterous sodomist former president, Mr. Hillary Clinton.

Oh yeah, the country really wants 4 more years of Clinton....we'll see.

And if the hypocritcial and weak left fringe does benefit from the scandal, I am confident our great nation can weather such a tragedy.

Oh, and Anon at 5:42.....

Again, Shut up!

Well then Anon at 6:08PM, we agree....

Let's all sing "Cum Bi Ya."

Oh, and Anon at 6:05PM (likely the same twit who posted at 5:42PM).....

Shut up.

Look, I don't care if you wanna get your rocks off in the Minnesota airport, I got dibs on the stalls at Logan. You can find the young 'uns there, which is what I go for. I use the stalls to get my action unless I'm using my taxpayer subsidized limo.

Posted by Barney Frank

Even this right wing lunatic is calling your talking points about Frank,"weak".

This goes to show just how out of touch the RW'ers at this site are.
From Grandma to the reverend Cee etc...they are far far right wing.
And America has had enough of them.

Posted by: at August 30, 2007 6:29 PM

huh?

Is there any "RWer" here who doesn't think Craig should resign?

Wasn't it just a day or two ago when the venerable Grammy Hawkins was lamenting about the level of discourse at this site?
Your"prick" comment wouldn't make you a little bit of a hypocrite now would it, Grammy?

Je-su !

FYI This is certainly not the first time this less than grand ole dame has turned the page blue.
Posted by: at August 30, 2007 6:43 PM

Consider yourself as honored as you'll ever be in life, Bubba.

I

There you go again....
Doing what you do best. Defending hypocrites.

Grammy demonstrated the exact behavior she has railed against.

Posted by: at August 30, 2007 7:30 PM

Yes, I'm sure "elevating the conservation" to you could most certainly have meant a mere lecture that no one, in any context or circumstance, ever use a vulgar word here again. Yes, you do truly believe that, rather than it being just a self-serving device for you to point the finger.

Yes, I agree with you that you do. You most certainly are THAT dumb.

Oh, Clucker, then I apologize. You've convinced me that your homophobic feelings and prejudices are as deeply and sincerely felt as the day is long...

However, I remain unconvinced that you'd tolerate without condemnation any "RRWer" confessing to the same feelings had Craig been a Democrat.

The fact that so much deviancy and perversion happens to be coming from the RRWR's at the moment is not my fault. However, I can assure you that if this were coming from the opposite direction, I would be as filled with revulsion.

Posted by: Clucker at August 30, 2007 8:37 PM

Perhaps that would be more evident if you weren't labeling the illicit sexual cigar tricks of one guy "sin" and the other "sexual perversion".

Don't get me wrong, I am not approving of Clinton's actions. I merely quibble with your label, Cee.

Posted by: Clucker at August 30, 2007 2:11 PM

McGreevy was trolling truck stops, revolting as well? What if it were 2 women in te bathroom, revolting? What about Melissa Ethridge, revolting? She's gay and was ai'd with some hippies/drug addicts semen. Ok? Oh, she donates to the (d) party, my mistake.

I noticed you responded to cees and avoided mine, any reason?

I guess when you are placed between a rock and a hard place as I did with you here...exposing your hypocrisy as well...

McGreevy was trolling truck stops, revolting as well? What if it were 2 women in the bathroom, revolting? What about Melissa Ethridge, revolting? She's gay and was ai'd with some hippies/drug addicts semen. Ok? Oh, she donates to the (d) party, my mistake.

.....you just go into one of the most immature rants laced with lies (see 9:07) I have yet to see here and that's saying a lot!

I will repeat, my first comment regarding the story was the leftists on this site....LOTS on Anons, AAP, MM (Why), Clucker, Loin, throwing around the word, "pervert." If you look back at the wonderful discussion about sodomy (I am being clinical, not profane) we all had when Foley was in the news, the same reaction occurred.....

He's a pedophile....hypocritical republican....

Once again, I never excused the man....I wanted him out, resign.....he did.

My problem with the leftists again is the double-standard.....Using pervert like it is a scarlet letter on a blog, while no more than two weeks earlier, claiming Clinton's actions were ok.....they were a private matter not impacting you or me, leave him alone.

But it was not private. Clinton was in the oval office, breaking his vows, with an underling. Cecelia is right. The sexual preference seems to make a difference to the "progressives" as does the party moniker.

The other issue is about being supportive of a radical social agenda that includes forcing a definition of "marriage," and what parents can teach their children as moral conduct. The LGBT constituency has declared that not publically announcing one's sexual preference as "unhealthy," and some even support "forced" outing. I have met many gay men and lesbians who do not support these goals and just want to live peaceful lives.

Barney Frank is out of line declaring Senator Craig is gay and pronouncing him a hyporcrite for not supporting his agenda. It is intolerant of a person's privacy and ignorant. The left has also demonized Mary Cheney for also not being a vocal advocate for the "gay" agenda.

With regard to Craig, Clinton, Foley, and millions like them... many people have problems with sexual addiction and impulse control that leads to all sorts of paraphilias.

Politically, the left seems all to ready to assign "pervert" or "sexually repressed self loathing closeted homosexual" to people of differing political or relgious affiliations with no more evidence than what Keith Olbermann has reported.

Well, that's all fine and dandy, but assumtions were supposed to be avoided by you evidence based progressives. The fundy flat-earthers like me are the stuuuupid ones.

Oh, and there are democrat scandals out there, ladies and gentlemen....a boring campaign contribution one involving a Clinton.......AGAIN!

Oh yeah, we want another 4 years of them and their poor ethics, again?

In one sentence, "rock", "hard" and "exposing"? We know where your mind is. The only question is: What male RRWR office holder are you with?

Posted by: Clucker at August 30, 2007 9:33 PM

To the contrary, rudy. I thought you might attempt to refute your points regarding your "revolting" situations. I guess you can't. So, you show us where your mind really is and all about. Down there with the pond scum. Thanks, rudy.

"Please don't. It was bad enough the first time."

Posted by: at August 30, 2007 9:33 PM

Too late, I already did. But I missed this....

Oh, and just in case you claim conservatives do not see the hypocrisy in the "progressive" and "tolerant" Democrats....here is a nice challenge from a link at Malkin's HOTAIR.COM:

"Chris Matthews, opening this afternoon's HARDBALL:

"Idaho Senator Larry Craig, cultural warrior of the right, stands naked tonight, exposed as both a sexual deviant and a world-class hypocrite.

"Matthews presumably labelled Craig 'a sexual deviant' based not on the mere fact of his presumptive homosexuality, but on his engaging in the kind of public 'cruising' to which the senator pleaded guilty in Minnesota.

"I challenge Matthews to flatly ask the Democratic presidential contenders and other Dem leaders he encounters in coming weeks whether they share his view that all men who engage in such conduct are 'sexual deviants.' Should make for some illuminating TV as Dems walk a tightrope between public mores and the sensibilities of one of the Dem party's important constituent groups."

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/open-thread-larry-craig-presser-at-430-pm-et/

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I wonder if the democrat party has formed focus groups asking people about their opinions regarding anonymous public restroom sex.....especially those in the radical LGBT lobby?

I am sure we will see the result of these focus groups in the coming days.

And this is my post today, the 1,583rd day since the declaration of Mission Accomplished in Iraq.....

I am cee, good night and good luck.

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration's policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

"Lefties: Leave these pathetic drowning rats alone to stew in each other's juices. Get yourselves out in the street and fight this criminal administration in ways that really mean something, and that are noted by more than a handful of keyboard heroes!" Sir Loin of Beef

"American liberals need to face these truths: The demand for self-government was and remains strong in Iraq despite all our mistakes and the violent efforts of al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias to disrupt it." DEMOCRAT Bob Kerrey

"If we end up saying that because these people are committing these acts of terrorism in Iraq or Afghanistan, that we shouldn't have done the removal of Saddam or the removal of the Taliban, then we are making a fundamental mistake about our own future, about security, about the values we should be defending in the world." TONY BLAIR

"You can't bring the troops home if you give George Bush $100 billion to wage this war. You're not supporting them. You're keeping them in harm's way." CINDY SHEEHAN

"There is no doubt ... that Al Qaeda is operating in Iraq. There is no doubt that we've had to take very strong measures against them. And there is no doubt that the Iraqi security forces have got to be strong enough to be able to withstand not just the violence that has been between the Sunni and the Shia population and the Sunni insurgency, but also Al Qaeda itself." GORDON BROWN

McGreevy was trolling truck stops, revolting as well? What if it were 2 women in te bathroom, revolting? What about Melissa Ethridge, revolting? She's gay and was ai'd with some hippies/drug addicts semen. Ok? Oh, she donates to the (d) party, my mistake.

I noticed you responded to cees and avoided mine, any reason?

Posted by: royal king at August 30, 2007 9:00 PM

Last chance to defend your comments. Can you? Try, at least. Put down the mad dog and potato chips and try.

"Some scandal."

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I'll do the mental midget (Why) think and cut/paste "some scandal," anon....

Today, Los Angeles Times Reports 'HillRaiser' Norman Hsu Is A Fugitive From California Authorities:

"Norman Hsu Pleaded No Contest To Grand Theft And Vanished Without Serving His Sentence. "For the last 15 years, California authorities have been trying to figure out what happened to a businessman named Norman Hsu, who pleaded no contest to grand theft, agreed to serve up to three years in prison and then seemed to vanish." (Chuck Neubauer and Robin Fields, "Democratic Fundraiser Is A Fugitive In Plain Sight," Los Angeles Times, 8/29/07)

"Ronald Smetana Of The California Attorney General's Office: "He is a fugitive." (Chuck Neubauer and Robin Fields, "Democratic Fundraiser Is A Fugitive In Plain Sight," Los Angeles Times, 8/29/07)

"Hillary Spokesman, Howard Wolfson: "Norman Hsu is a longtime and generous supporter of the Democratic party and its candidates, including Senator Clinton." (Brody Mullins, "Big Source Of Clinton's Cash Is An Unlikely Address," The Wall Street Journal, 8/29/07)

"CRIME STOPPERS ALERT! Norman Hsu Will Be In California Next Month For Clinton Fundraiser. "Hsu is slated to host a Sept. 30 fund-raiser in Northern California for Clinton." (Maggie Haberman, "The Bunga-Lowdown," New York Post, 8/29/07)

"Yesterday, Media Noted Red Flags With Norman Hsu Contributions And Those Of His Friends: Hsu Helps Directs Campaign Contributions To Democrats From "Citizens Who Live Modest Lives." "In addition to making his own contributions, Hsu has honed the practice of assembling packets of checks from contributors who bear little resemblance to the usual Democratic deep pockets: A self-described apparel executive with a variety of business interests, Hsu has focused on delivering hefty contributions from citizens who live modest lives and are neophytes in the world of campaign giving." (Chuck Neubauer and Robin Fields, "Democratic Fundraiser Is A Fugitive In Plain Sight," Los Angeles Times, 8/29/07)

"Family Living In Modest, Lime-Green Bungalow Has Contributed A Combined $45,000 To Clinton's Campaign Accounts Since 2005? "The father, William, is a mail carrier, and the mother, Alice, is a homemaker. They live in a one-story green bungalow - yet six Paws have given a combined $45,000 to Clinton's Senate and presidential campaigns in the past two years." (Maggie Haberman, "The Bunga-Lowdown," New York Post, 8/29/07)

"In All, The Six Paws Have Donated A Total Of $200,000 To Democratic Candidates Since 2005, Election Records Show." (Brody Mullins, "Big Source Of Clinton's Cash Is An Unlikely Address," The Wall Street Journal, 8/28/07)

"William Paw Earns About $49,000 Per Year. "William Paw, the 64-year-old head of the household, is a mail carrier with the U.S. Postal Service who earns about $49,000 a year, according to a union representative. Alice Paw, also 64, is a homemaker." (Brody Mullins, "Big Source Of Clinton's Cash Is An Unlikely Address," The Wall Street Journal, 8/28/07)

"Winkle Paw, Son Of William And Alice, Is Employed By Norman Hsu. "The family includes a son, Winkle Paw, who [Hsu Attorney, Lawrence] Barcella said was in business with Hsu." (Chuck Neubauer and Robin Fields, "Democratic Fundraiser Is A Fugitive In Plain Sight," Los Angeles Times, 8/29/07)

"The Paws' Political Donations Closely Track Donations Made By Norman Hsu..." (Brody Mullins, "Big Source Of Clinton's Cash Is An Unlikely Address," The Wall Street Journal, 8/28/07)

"Kent Cooper, Former Federal Election Commission Disclosure Official: "There are red lights all over this one." (Brody Mullins, "Big Source Of Clinton's Cash Is An Unlikely Address," The Wall Street Journal, 8/28/07)

"Clinton's Campaign Has Refused To Return Campaign Contributions From The Paw Family. "Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign aides yesterday said they won't return tens of thousands of dollars contributed by a seemingly low-income family living in a tiny bungalow tied to one of the Democratic Party's biggest donors." (Maggie Haberman, "The Bunga-Lowdown," New York Post, 8/29/07)

"RE-LIVING HISTORY: Clintons Have Long History Of Engaging In Questionable Fundraising: Ray Jinnah Hosted A Fundraiser For Clinton's PAC In 2004. "On a sun-dappled October afternoon, Ray Jinnah stood beside his Bel-Air swimming pool to address 60 guests gathered for his latest fundraiser, a 2004 affair for New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. ... [J]innah introduced Clinton, whose political action committee would take in $45,000 through his efforts." (Chuck Neubauer and Robin Fields, "Campaign Donor's Cash Arrived With Baggage," Los Angeles Times, 4/15/07)

"Clinton, Beaming, Warmly Thanked Jinnah And Noted That He Had Been Among The First Well-Wishers To Call Her Husband, Bill, After His Recent Heart Surgery." (Chuck Neubauer and Robin Fields, "Campaign Donor's Cash Arrived With Baggage," Los Angeles Times, 4/15/07)

"Jinnah Was Later Charged With Illegal Fundraising On Behalf Of HillPac And Fled The Country. "At about the same time, the Justice Department began investigating allegations that Jinnah's fundraising on behalf of Clinton and others was illegal. He would later be charged with violating federal law by reimbursing employees and associates for contributions made in their names to Clinton's HillPac and the Friends of Barbara Boxer campaign. Today, having fled the country, Jinnah is on the FBI's 'featured fugitives' list." (Chuck Neubauer and Robin Fields, "Campaign Donor's Cash Arrived With Baggage," Los Angeles Times, 4/15/07)

"Democratic Donor Johnny Chung Received A $150,000 Transfer From The Bank Of China Three Days Before He Handed Hillary Rodham Clinton's Chief Of Staff A $50,000 Check, A Republican Senator Said ... At Hearings Into Campaign Financing Irregularities." (Pete Yost, "After $150,000 Arrived From China, $50,000 Was Given To Democrats," The Associated Press, 7/10/97)

"Republicans On The Senate Governmental Affairs Committee Contend That China Sought To Influence The American Political System With Large Infusions Of Cash." (Pete Yost, "After $150,000 Arrived From China, $50,000 Was Given To Democrats," The Associated Press, 7/10/97)

"Democratic Fund-Raiser Yah Lin 'Charlie' Trie And An Associate Have Been Charged With Giving And Arranging Illegal Political Contributions To The Democratic National Committee To Buy Access To President Clinton And Other Top Officials." (Michael J. Sniffen, "Two Charged With Illegal Campaign Contributions," The Associated Press, 1/29/98)

"Presidential Friend Yah Lin 'Charlie' Trie Pleaded Guilty To Two Charges Today And Pledged To Cooperate In An Investigation Of Campaign Fund-Raising. In Return, Prosecutors Dropped Indictments Pending Against Him In Washington And Arkansas." (James Jefferson, "Clinton Friend Pleads Guilty, To Cooperate Into Fund-Raising Probe," The Associated Press, 5/21/99)

"The Clinton Administration Was Widely Criticized For Opening Up The White House's Lincoln Bedroom To Democratic Donors ..." (Douglas Kiker, "Bush, Gore Call Public Housing Home," The Associated Press, 10/26/00)

In 1997, President Clinton Admitted That He Invited Major Campaign Donors To Spend The Night At The White House. "President Clinton put himself squarely at the center of the Democratic fund-raising controversy Tuesday by acknowledging that it was his idea to invite major campaign donors to spend the night at the White House." (Jane Fullerton and Kathy Kiely, "Clinton Admits Donor Sleep-Overs His Idea," Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 2/26/97)

"The Clintons Hosted 404 Overnight Guests At The End Of Their Time In The White House; These Guests Contributed A Total Of $624,000 To Hillary's Senate Campaign. "President Clinton and his wife, Hillary, hosted 404 overnight guests at the White House or Camp David over the last 14 months, the White House said Friday. Collectively they gave $624,000 to the first lady's Senate campaign, according to an analysis by a watchdog group." (Terence Hunt, "White House Releases New List Of Overnight Guests," The Associated Press, 9/22/00)

"Former Sen. John Edwards (D-NC) Recently Criticized The Clintons By Declaring "The Lincoln Bedroom Is Not For Rent." "John Edwards invoked a Clinton White House scandal that became a symbol of fundraising excess: Big donors were rewarded with an overnight stay in the Lincoln Bedroom. 'The American people deserve to know that their presidency is not for sale, the Lincoln Bedroom is not for rent,' said Edwards, his party's candidate for vice president in 2004." (Peter Nicholas, "Edwards Levels Attack On Clinton-Era White House," Los Angeles Times, 8/24/07)

"Of The 176 Pardons Or Commutations Granted By Clinton, The Most Controversial Went To Fugitive Financier Marc Rich, Who Fled The Country In The Early 1980s To Escape A Criminal Indictment." (Sara Fritz, "Pardons One Step Too Far For Clinton," St. Petersburg Times, 2/25/01)

"$1.45 Million Was Donated On Behalf Of Marc Rich To The Clinton Library. "[M]ost notable are the donations of $450,000 and $1 million to the Clinton library from the ex-wife and a friend of Marc Rich, who fled the country after being convicted of tax evasion but then received a presidential pardon on Clinton's last day in office. (Karoun Demirjian, "House Approves Bill To Divulge Funding Of Presidential Libraries," Chicago Tribune, 3/15/07)"

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Oh yeah, anon.....SOME SCANDAL......Oh I sure do hope you twits nominate the

Clinton scandal du jour....he, he, he.....

Good one, Clucker....I gotta give you credit on that one. You made me chuckle.

don't know about the democrat party, but I do know the results from the Democratic Party survey:

98% strongly disapprove public men's room sex between two men.

23% srongly disapprove public men's room sex between one man and one woman.

18% strongly disapprove of public men's room sex between two women.

3% strongly disapprove of public men's room sex between one man and two or more women.

Posted by: Clucker at August 30, 2007 10:09 PM

They put the "party" in political party..huh...

Kinda gives new meaning to Sheryl Crow's concern over toilet paper conservation.

What can I say pukey little prick other than I call em like I see em.

Your disgusting and repulsive comment made me think what it would be like to be Pukey Prick's mother, grandmother, aunt, wife, daughter, granddaughter, female co-worker or any woman who crossed your path. I quickly shyed away from such a nightmare.

If that makes me a hypocrite, well, so be it.

That does not change the fact that you are a Pukey Little Prick!

Grammie

f that makes me a hypocrite, well, so be it.

That does not change the fact that you are a Pukey Little Prick!

Grammie

Posted by: Janet Hawkins at August 30, 2007 10:53 PM

He/she is indeed, but I tell you, Grammie, after watching Capon cynically brandishing the terms "perversion" and "deviant" all day long and blithely talking about his own visceral disgust at gay cruising behavior, Pukey Little Prick sounds like a compliment.

Cecelia, I addressed the same point from a different aspect just a few minutes ago @ the thread TV Newser.

Grammie

>>>First, this spew....

something terribly revolting about an anonymous physical act between two (2) males in a public restroom. Perhaps, that is just my age showing. Indeed, I find Lesbian artificial insemination, a la the Cheney's a bit revolting as well.

Don't get me wrong, I am not approving of Clinton's actions. I merely quibble with your label, Cee.

Posted by: Clucker at August 30, 2007 2:11 PM

>>>>>Then, I posted this.......

>>>>>>McGreevy was trolling truck stops, revolting as well? What if it were 2 women in the bathroom, revolting? What about Melissa Ethridge, revolting? She's gay and was ai'd with some hippies/drug addicts semen. Ok? Oh, she donates to the (d) party, my mistake.

>>>>Then, this......

I did not respond to you, Pea Brain, because you are vile and stupid.

Wah! Wah! Grammie, Clucker's being mean to me. Wah! Wah! Cecelia, You like me better than Clucker, don't you? Wah! Wah! Sharon, Make Clucker stop. Wah! Wah! Johnny Dollar, Don't let Clucker post anymore.

There. I spared you your usual whining. Don't say I never did anything nice for you.

Posted by: Clucker at August 30, 2007 9:07 PM

>>>>The spolbyloon debating tactics or lack thereof, for all to see.

philby, I dare you to try debating my 11:40 post. Give it your best shot. You'll probably run full speed for the 4th time, though.

>>>>>>McGreevy was trolling truck stops, revolting as well? What if it were 2 women in the bathroom, revolting? What about Melissa Ethridge, revolting? She's gay and was ai'd with some hippies/drug addicts semen. Ok? Oh, she donates to the (d) party, my mistake.

Men have long solicited female prostitutes and anonymous female strangers of the nonprofessional sort, for sex in public-- including public bathrooms, parked cars, parks, etc.

Posted by: Cecelia at August 30, 2007 2:30 PM

At least now we know how Cecelia met her husband...

Posted by: at August 30, 2007 5:42 PM

11:12/coward, Where are all of my racist/hate comments? It's ironic you accuse me (royal king) of making racist/hate comments while you hide behind the anon (no accountability) shield. Keep up the good work.

more lies from Anonymous and the far left:

August 23, 2007
Did Clinton Lie About Targeting Bin Laden?
It appears that Bill Clinton may have exaggerated his record when it came to strategizing against Osama bin Laden. Newsweek's Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball take a look at the Inspector General's report of the pre-9/11 intelligence failures at the CIA and find an interesting nugget. Despite Clinton's angry assertion to Chris Wallace in last year's controversial Fox interview, he never gave the CIA an assassination order regarding bin Laden (h/t: CQ reader Mark):

The report also criticized intelligence problems when Bill Clinton was president, detailing political and legal “constraints” agency officials felt in the late 1990s. In September 2006, during a famous encounter with Fox News anchor Wallace, Clinton erupted in anger and waived his finger when asked about whether his administration had done enough to get bin Laden. “What did I do? What did I do?” Clinton said at one point. “I worked hard to try to kill him. I authorized a finding for the CIA to kill him. We contracted with people to kill him. I got closer to killing him than anybody has gotten since.”
Clinton appeared to have been referring to a December 1999 Memorandum of Notification (MON) he signed that authorized the CIA to use lethal force to capture, not kill, bin Laden. But the inspector general’s report made it clear that the agency never viewed the order as a license to “kill” bin Laden—one reason it never mounted more effective operations against him. “The restrictions in the authorities given the CIA with respect to bin Laden, while arguably, although ambiguously, relaxed for a period of time in late 1998 and early 1999, limited the range of permissible operations,” the report stated. (Scheuer agreed with the inspector general’s findings on this issue, but said if anything the report was overly diplomatic. “There was never any ambiguity,” he said. “None of those authorities ever allowed us to kill anyone. At least that’s what the CIA lawyers told us.” A spokesman for the former president had no immediate comment.)

2:41, where are my race/hate comments you said I make everyday? Can't find them? More of your lies?

2:41, Thanks for proving you are liar.

Thanks for proving you are A liar. Don't want the troll, philby, to try to "school" me.