O'Lielly, everyone ever charge with a crime is innocent and have compelling stories to tell, aint ye heeeeeerd. There have been crimes committed ever sense there was war but what would you know. The closest thing you came to combat is the day a bully came by and kicked sand in your face while you were playing with your Barbie Dolls in your sandbox.

Have you written any negative comments about what Sadam has done? What about Darfur ro Sierre Leone? What about the Bataan death march and other crimes committed by the NIPS or the NAZIS? Hum? Do us all a favor, either move to Venuzuela or since you are a liberal and therefore a follower, you, Mike the Lussy Lou, BR, AAP, codas & SLOB can come over to my house and I'll serve you some Kool Aide and the gene pool on this planet will greatly improve. I sure hate to stink up God's great earth though.

You are the Billy Bad Ass that professes he plans on pissing on a dead man's grave. Hell, you aint even a pussy. Life grinding you into a little shit ball ace? Haven't had any pussy in the past 5 years let alone go on a date. Credit card deby got ya down? Bought all that stuff and now the reality of having to pay for it sat in? Feeling that pinch everytime you fill up your tank? Are you hiding under your bed because Reid and Pelosi told you.

You can't even manage your own miniscule, meanlingless, Simple SImon, Godless life and you want to shoot your mouth off over an isolated event.

It's a good thing people with common sense are still in charge.

AKA LAura Bush for are the stupid assed barnaby Jones' out there. O'Lielly, why don;t you see if you can get with Larry Craig and have some man-love.

Jimmy Breslin reminds us of the tail end of Vietnam:

"One is by Air Force Lt. Richard Van de Geer, a helicopter pilot assigned to assist in the evacuation of Saigon in 1975. This letter is on 15 May 1975, the day he was killed.

"The aircraft that landed on the Midway - landed about 50 feet away from mine - and the man who got out of the aircraft had been quoted approximately a week earlier as saying that any South Vietnamese who had left the country was a coward and that everybody should stay in South Vietnam and fight to the bitter end. This very same man was the first man to arrive on the USS Midway and to my knowledge the first to be recovered by the 7th Fleet. The man was Gen. Nguyen Cao Ky, vice president of the Republic of South Vietnam. Now I really don't have any personal feelings about the war here. I really don't care one way or the other in regard to who is right and who is wrong because that is a waste of time, a waste of thinking. But I did find myself feeling that I wish he had been shot down."

Officially, Lt. Van de Geer was the last man to die in the Vietnam War. His name is listed as last on the memorial in Washington. If Bush wonders from his dentist's chair about the end of Vietnam, Van de Geer gives you a fair idea.

STill waiting for the "review" of the Thursday show. Oh well, why bother. I'll have Johnny's review of Fridays hour of spin way before this comes in!

Laura- you wake up each day with such anger... thats the characteristic of a liberal. Buddy you gotta CHIIIIILLLLL

O'Lilley hates the military. Thinks they are woman and baby killers.

Par for the course there.

Jimmy Breslin writes for Newsday. Use to write for a lot of other papers but got fired.

Gee likes to use dead guys to make his point.

Par for the course with a lib.

Drinking Problem.

Maybe he knows Mike?

Here watch, I can play spineless lib watch this everybody.

26 year old Army Sargeant Jan Argonish was killed Monday in an ambush while serving in Afghanistan.

If George Bush wonders from his Dentist's chair about the middle of the Afghanistan War Jan Argonish gives you a fair idea.

Gee, I didn't know it took so little effort to be such a big creep!

O'Lilley hates the military. Thinks they are woman and baby killers.

Par for the course there.

Jimmy Breslin writes for Newsday. Use to write for a lot of other papers but got fired.

Gee likes to use dead guys to make his point.

Par for the course with a lib.

Drinking Problem.

Maybe he knows Mike?

Here watch, I can play spineless lib watch this everybody.

26 year old Army Sargeant Jan Argonish was killed Monday in an ambush while serving in Afghanistan.

If George Bush wonders from his Dentist's chair about the middle of the Afghanistan War Jan Argonish gives you a fair idea.

Gee, I didn't know it took so little effort to be such a big creep!

Gee, I didn't know it took so little effort to be such a big creep!

Posted by: puck at August 31, 2007 9:18 AM

Well, we all know that "effort" isn't Bush's long suit - he just beat Reagan's record for vacation days taken while in office. Being a "creep" is something at which the self-righteouslylazy often excell.

"26 year old Army Sargeant Jan Argonish was killed Monday in an ambush while serving in Afghanistan."

Puck,

For your spineless, partisan, and cynical use of the death of Sargeant Argonish to be relevant to Breslin's citation of Lt Van de Geer you should be able to include a letter or quote illustrating the Sgt's opinions of his mission, and the war in general.

SLOB,

You hate everything that Bush does but now you are complaining that he is on vacation too much. Don't be such a dingbat!

Sir Loin of Milquetoast using DNC talking points again....

Bush..."The Vacation President" check

Well, it is arguable, especially when one looks at Bill Clinton's behavior as the chief executive....."vacation" when only defined as when The President is out of Washington and not on a "foreign policy" trip, is very misleading.....

"President Bush's "vacations" are really just changes in scenery. He's still doing the same job, whether he's in Crawford, Camp David or Kennebunkport. The Clintons' excursions to the Caribbean, to Martha's Vineyard and to Jackson Hole, Wyoming were hedonistic by comparison. Furthermore, Clinton took an extraordinary number of trips overseas, given that he was so neglectful of foreign policy that he studiously avoided his own CIA director.

"According to a 2001 report by the National Taxpayers' Union, Clinton set all-time records for presidential travel in terms of countries visited (133) and days spent abroad (229). His predecessors, Reagan and G.H.W. Bush, combined for 109 visits and 220 days abroad in 12 years. Unlike those presidents' trips, many of Clinton's served no discernible foreign policy benefit.

"Take, for instance, his 11-day ego trip through Africa, where he was treated like a king, and didn't exactly bother to correct anyone on that point. Later that same year, he spent 10 days in Red China, almost long enough to individually thank everyone who had contributed to his reelection campaign. Those reporters who keep track of presidential vacation days do not include these whimsical romps in their final tallies."

http://www.americandaily.com/article/19982

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Oh, and don't forget that during working hours, The adulterous sodomite, Bill Clinton, made the Oval office his personal pleasure dome.....I wonder how many hours were wasted on his casual sexual activity?

Well Loin, keep posting the latest try at eroding Bush's credibility.....It won't make a difference....Your ruling elite are sabotoging you with talk of funding Iraq and Afghanistan as W is requesting....... again.

Bush might as well work from Crawford.....The Congress doesn't seem to be accomplishing anything when they are in town anyway.

Bravo cee- well put!

cee presents callow trust-fund brat Bush - with his history of destroying all of the "pet" business's given him by his dad and his dad's friends - as his standard for an on-point self-made man. This is analogous to poster laura/Nugent presenting self-soiling, draft-dodging Terrible Ted as a paragon of patriotism. Your movement's values are shit, and you ecstatically wallow in it.

"First of all, Bush spends most of his time clearing brush on his vacations"

Actually, its clear from the video of these activities that to Bush "clearing brush" means directing a cluster of Crawford peasants around a cluster of trees. The douche obviously doesn't have the slightest idea how to run a chainsaw, and appears to only pick up an undersized machine when the cameras are on.

Ah yes, more leftist wallowing (thanks for the word Loin), regarding the "caretaker" chief executive, the adulterous sodomite, Bill Clinton.

A man who will always be associated first and foremost with, IMPEACHMENT and MONICA.

"Bill's work ethic was legendary."

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Oh yeah....a legend I have heard many times! (sarcasm)

"The adulterous sodomite, Bill Clinton, made the Oval office his personal pleasure dome"

But I've never heard that Clinton ever jacked-off in a coffin while surrounded by a couple-dozen of his fraternity brothers, as both Bush and John Kerry must have done as an essential componenet of their membership in "Skull and Bones" at Yale.

...and just who was being serviced by Jeff Gannon/John Guckert on his 100-plus nocturnal visits to the White House, as registered by the Secret Service?

"A man who will always be associated first and foremost with, IMPEACHMENT and MONICA."

...words which will, in turn, always be associated with the concepts of "irrelevancy" and "Witchhunt".

The historical perspective already has the benefit of the examples offered by Senator Vitter, congressman Foley, Senator Craig and other's of Clinton's direct detractors by which to weigh the seriousness of Clinton's infraction.

How many more cases of such hypocrisy will pop up in the next few years, before all of the holier-than-thou/gayer-than-thou Republican moralists/philanderers who had attacked Clinton die off?

Clinton's presidency was a success
His attitude and action in the office, was disgraceful

I tend to lean right, but I wash with Clinton, personally i prospered under his admistration but one can't deny his actions were boarderline basically sick

All in all some I would call him a push, if I ranked the last 30 presidents, he may come in 15th....

And Olbyloons, he never comes in ahead of the gipper on any list

And Olbyloons, he never comes in ahead of the gipper on any list

Posted by: Professor Phooey at August 31, 2007 11:07 AM

You haven't seen my list.

Plus Bush retires between 8- 9:00 each night of his life, on top of an afternoon nap.
He is not only the most vacationed president in history, he is the laziest.( and by far the dumbest)

Posted by: at August 31, 2007 10:45 AM

Exactly how would you know Bush's nap times or what he does on "vacation"? You don't. As for the dumbest president,
how many Harvard MBA's do you have? 0
My guess is you are in your 6th year at NJ community college. Keep trying zombie, you might get that associates degree some day.

Perhaps the braindead poster of 10:45 should read the just released report on 9/11 from the CIA.

Typical liberal keeps throwing out lies when the facts bear different fruit. Read it slug. Says the majority of the blame lies with Clinton's appointee Tenet. Additionally points out that although Clark and Clinton scream that they took Bin Laden seriously, they did not. Its in the report slug.

Read more than huffington post, you might see a bit of reality.

SLOB, step away from the "loose change" videos. Try getting your news from people that are out of high school, for our sake.

The "ratings" you enjoy discussing are about as objective as Olbermann. Reagan is considred a middle ranking "success" by similar "media generated" rankings, yet I am sure Loin and the rest of the radical left still see Reagan as just left to the mythical satan.

I take no solace or worry from these recent historical reviews....they are the usually the opinions of the leftist elite....spoon fed to the masses....enjoy your pablum.

History, decades from now, will show the short span of 16 years of Clinton/Bush as a period focused on the rise of radical islamic terrorism. I am sorry to report to you fans of the adulterous sodomite that his 8 years of inept foregin policy in the middle east (especially in Iraq and towards Israel) will be what we doctors call....

nonbenign neglect.

Whoever takes over from Bush will have the opportunity to take over a policy that the country should have been with since 1993.....standing against the ideology of death and radicalism....Clinton ignored it and allowed the cancer to spread to where a 9/11 could occur on US soil.

It has not happened since, under Bush's watch, and it won't as long as terrorists are on the defense against the best military in the world.

We will see if we get a Clinton (2) and then Bill's legacy will REALLY be in doubt.

For our military and our people, I hope not. We saw what Carter and Clinton did to military readiness and freedom in the world....

nonbenign neglect

I bet you think Carter was a success too... blind (d)s!

Olbermann's pulling down some pretty big numbers since his network debut. NBC, dumb like a FOX....

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/the_scoreboard_wednesday_august_29_66152.asp#more

Countdown 974, 299 (in the demo)

Oh yeah Loin, while Clinton was ignoring the rise of Bin Laden's power and influence, Saddam's true behavior (all that wrong intelligence Bush used to "lie" us into war), and showing the US could be a paper tiger with regards to defending democracy and freedom (Somalia, Israel)....he was having an underling perform oral sex on him in the oval office.....

And your ruling elite applauded him just outside after his impeachment vote......

No, Loin, that will be overlooked because other perverts were caught and either resigned or were marginalized properly.

Do you see the difference between the left and what normal, moral people do....They accept true responsibility for their bad behavior and pay consequences....They are not given standing ovations.

Nor do they change the easily understood definition of "sex." We even saw one of you leftist show your ignorance regarding sodomy yesterday....."oh no, oral sex is not sodomy!" Mmmmm....many young people do not even consider such casual, wonderful, disease spreading activity as "sex." Thank you President Clinton!

news you can use....

Check you link again....the 900K was total....his demo was only 299....

And his substitute got similar numbers the weak before.

Oh, and he has been up against subs at FOX....not change in his ranking.....still trail's FACTOR.

I would say, a very modest impact, if any.

"Bill Clinton understood and took the threat of al-Qaeda seriously."

Way too hysterical. Bill says he did. The reports say otherwise.

Can anyone name what Clinton did to stop 9-11?
You said he didn't do enough... he didn't do ANYTHING!
8 years of nothing and you blame Bush for 8 months of nothing. CLUELESS and no one is buying it!

Read the report- it say clinton did nothing.
It says he did NOT take them seriously.

Here is a long list of Bill Clintons sucesses as provided by him.

In 1996, President Clinton pointed to 13 separate reforms that were contained within the Contract with America at the Democratic National Convention.

That would be Newt Gingrich's Contract with America for those of you in zombie land.

So don't throw that shit around me about Reagan. Not in an open forum where the facts are easily accessable by people willing to review them.
But as I said, I lived throught the Reagan years and they weren't pretty.

Mike is this you? have you taken to posting blindly now? come out come out wherever you areeeeeeeeeeeeee

I could give a shit what you think btw, wrapo yourself in the cum stained dress of monica lewinsky if it turns you on, Your an idiot

READ THE REPORT IDIOT!

WhiteHouse people like Richard Clark say he did?
He's in the CIA report too dunce...

Can you name what clinton did to Al Queda in his 8 years?

....."oh no, oral sex is not sodomy!" Mmmmm....many young people do not even consider such casual, wonderful, disease spreading activity as "sex." Thank you President Clinton!

Posted by: cee at August 31, 2007 11:32 AM

So you and the Mrs. never engage orally? All because of bronze-age mythology? You poor bastard.

More pablum from the left's run 9/11 commission....The Clinton croneys made sure the truth was not put out and anyone can see the behavior of Clinton in Somalia and with regards to Israel as the main motivation for the increasing violence of radical islamists, like Bin Laden. Clinton left Bush a mess to deal with and 3000 people perished on one day in September because of it.

Oh, and Saddam Hussein continued to defy the world for 12 years and Clinton's administration "created" most of the poor intelligence everyone believed in 2003.....Oh yes, it was still right to remove the totalitarian Saddam from power, but the intelligence failures, a system wide failure, rests squarly on the inept leftist democrat, just like always one cannot trust the left with protecting the nation.

"Oh yeah Loin, while Clinton was ignoring the rise of Bin Laden's power and influence, Saddam's true behavior (all that wrong intelligence Bush used to "lie" us into war), "

Yes, cee, all that wrong intelligence used to lie us into war. What is your point?

news you can use....

Check you link again....the 900K was total....his demo was only 299....

And his substitute got similar numbers the weak before.
Oh, and he has been up against subs at FOX....not change in his ranking.....still trail's FACTOR.
I would say, a very modest impact, if any.
Posted by: cee at August 31, 2007 11:38 AM

Sorry cee, I thought 299 (in the demo) was clear. Yes I realize he's still second to the Malkin Factor, but wednesday was a pretty good day. Olbermann never has sniffed a million viewers (unless you count the bridge or VT). If they keep putting him on NBC (even if he only got 4 million viewers) it will only increase his MSNBC ratings, its just logic. Even with all the bitching from the football audience, bad publicity still = buzz. Smart move by NBC really.

Like I said, NBC is dumb like a FOX.

Oh, and Saddam Hussein continued to defy the world for 12 years and Clinton's administration "created" most of the poor intelligence everyone believed in 2003.....Oh yes, it was still right to remove the totalitarian Saddam from power, but the intelligence failures, a system wide failure, rests squarly on the inept leftist democrat, just like always one cannot trust the left with protecting the nation.

Posted by: cee at August 31, 2007 11:50 AM

cee, you are just making shit up to keep talking. What a piece of disingenuous, cowardly crap - just as much afraid of a blowjob as he is of serving in his fetish/president's imperial wars. Make a man of yourself - either enlist now or go eat some pussy.

A missile- missed and thats his legacy?
Here is how serious Clinton was-

In October 2000, al-Qaida bombed the USS Cole, killing 17 sailors and nearly sinking the ship.

Clinton did nothing.

According to Rich Miniter, author of "Losing Bin Laden," Clinton's top national security advisers made the following classic Democrat excuses for doing nothing in response to the Cole attack:

— Attorney General Janet Reno "thought retaliation might violate international law and was therefore against it."

— CIA Director George Tenet "wanted more definitive proof that bin Laden was behind the attack, although he personally thought he was."

— Secretary of State Madeleine Albright "was concerned about the reaction of world opinion to a retaliation against Muslims and the impact it would have in the final days of the Clinton Middle East peace process." (How did that turn out, by the way? Big success, I take it? Everybody over there all friendly with one another?)

— Secretary of Defense William Cohen "did not consider the Cole attack 'sufficient provocation' for a military retaliation."

In August 1998, three days after Clinton admitted to the nation that he did in fact have "sex with that woman," he bombed Afghanistan and Sudan.

To this day there has been no evidence that the Sudanese target had any involvement with terrorism.

More of Clinton's legacy

"So you and the Mrs. never engage orally? All because of bronze-age mythology? You poor bastard."

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Oh poor Loin, I guess you don't have any lines regarding perverted sexual activity.....

anal?
dead bodies?
children?
animals?

Where is that elusive line, Loin? Where does sodomy start?

Oh yeah....sex with love and commitment is another myth us fundy flat-earthers like to talk about too....No, the left says that is not necessary....casual and where-ever you want! Even your work place, even the public bathroom!

Make sure you have your partners tested for that nasty HPV virus....You won't show the disease on your genitalia but it makes for some nasty stuff in other "unnatural places"

Oh, and that is why we see the increase in oral herpes...a pleasant one too....nice.

And I have seen some nasty cases or oral clap...nasty.

Enjoy....also remember what else is involved in these wonder cloacae.

I'll tell you. When Bush lost Bin Laden in the mountains of Pakistan b/c ..again of his obsession with Iraq, he said," Bin Laden 's not important"

You fools just lie and lie and lie.

Posted by: at August 31, 2007 11:55 AM

Bin Laden is being protected by the Bush/Saudi relationship. Bin Laden is in partnership with the Military Industrial Complex in the same way that little animated toenail "dematophyte" works for the pharmacuetical companies.

Gotta love a wikipedia entry... write it yourself cellar dweller?

No, the left says that is not necessary....casual and where-ever you want! Even your work place, even the public bathroom!

Check the headlines of the past few months, Squeamish. Republicans appear to have cornered the market on toilet-stall blowjobs.

Read the CIA report monkey....
Its SAYS he did nothing
It say clarke did almost nothing

Yet they all say they did

Clintons war on terror

October 1997: Ali Mohamed Tells FBI He Helped Al-Qaeda Kill US Soldiers, But FBI Takes No Action
October 1997: Ali Mohamed Tells FBI He Helped Al-Qaeda Kill US Soldiers, But FBI Takes No Action Ali Mohamed is interviewed by the FBI for at least the third time. He gives agents a detailed account of how he trained bin Laden’s bodyguards (see 1994) and how al-Qaeda operatives assisted the attack that killed 18 US soldiers in Somalia in 1993 (see 1993). He says he trained people in “war zones, and… war zones can be anywhere.” [Wall Street Journal, 11/26/2001] Two months earlier, in a raid on Walih el-Hage’s house in Nairobi, Kenya, the FBI found evidence proving the existence of an al-Qaeda cell based in Kenya, and an admission that the cell had assisted in the 1993 Somalia attack. It appears the FBI had already been monitoring communications between Mohamed and these cell members for some time (see Late 1994). [Wall Street Journal, 11/26/2001] Other glimmers of what he tells the FBI will later be revealed in court documents. For instance, a 1997 FBI report on him possibly based on this interview will state, “He knows, for example, that there are hundreds of ‘sleepers’ or ‘submarines’ in place who don’t fit neatly into the terrorist profile. These individuals don’t wear the traditional beards and don’t pray at the mosques.” [Raleigh News and Observer, 10/21/2001] According to an 1998 affidavit, he also tells the FBI in this interview that he loves bin Laden and believes in him. He further says that it is “obvious” the US is an enemy of Muslim people. [San Francisco Chronicle, 11/4/2001] But apparently, despite openly admitting that he’s working with al-Qaeda and has participated in the killing of US soldiers, the FBI still takes no action against him.

Oh, and that is why we see the increase in oral herpes...a pleasant one too....nice.

And I have seen some nasty cases or oral clap...nasty.

Enjoy....also remember what else is involved in these wonder cloacae.

Posted by: cee at August 31, 2007 12:03 PM

Er...my question WAS specifically about the relationship between you and Mrs. cee....nevermind. Sorry I asked.

Cee's comment yesterday about "oral sex" being perverted will live in infamy.

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It should. Sexual activity has been a part if not a major issue in most falls of leaders and societies. If people cannot control their bobily functions and act like animals in heat, preying on inappropriate partners, or better yet, settling for anaonymous of unrespect recipients, very little is left. Clinton's behavior showed this and he is a great symbol of the high unwanted pregnancies, high abortion rates and high single mother rates in the US....As well as the increasing rates of STDs.....escpeciall herpes.

Got a cold sore, guys?

Ew, nice one.

“ Clinton appeared in front of the whole world threatening and promising revenge, but these threats were merely a preparation for withdrawal. You have been disgraced by Allah and you withdrew; the extent of your impotence and weaknesses became very clear. It was a pleasure for the "heart" of every Muslim and a remedy to the "chests" of believing nations to see you defeated in the three Islamic cities of Beirut, Aden and Mogadishu."

Boy those terrorist were sure affraid of Clinton.

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Oh poor Loin, I guess you don't have any lines regarding perverted sexual activity.....

anal?
dead bodies?
children?
animals?

Where is that elusive line, Loin? Where does sodomy start?"

Wow. So if a Republican turns on the light during sex, or fucks without a sheet between them, or if a fingertip brushes a forbidden anatomical feature, then its all over - a slippery slope to necrophilia and beastiality. No wonder they crack so frequently, and end up throwing everything away to kneel in week-old piss blowing strangers.

YET the loons still think Clinton did a lot to curb terrorism.
Clinton SAYS he did a lot.
But in 8 years there is a lot he DID NOT do.

You losers started this thread and always lose.
Clinton did nothing, and claiming he did won't change his legacy.

Nameless-
Are you even aware that the CIA released a thorough report LAST MONTH? Now I know you didn't read it.

Getting tired looking for actual examples of Clinton's battle with Al Queda? Tent missile.... Aspirin factory....
Wow- you really are laying out quite a case. NOTHING!
PPPPhht!

Oh anon at 12:09PM, stop projecting your insecurities on me. My wife and I did and do follow the "bronze-age" myth.....

And next you be impugning the religious convictions of those Jews who are kosher.

The scriptures are clear, even Christ said what the way was regarding family and sex. He quoted that myth in Genesis....you know Adam and Eve....

But again, Christ being God in my faith is also a fairy tale ready for your ridicule as well.

Like I said gents, be careful....Your partners would appreciate some respect, kindness and gentleness in your testosterone driven spasms to pleasure yourselves.....

Just a little.

The zombies always claim Bush invade Iraq for no reason. Lets look at the reasons for the wonderful "MISTER" Clinton's military operations.

Suspicions often arose during Clinton's tenure about the timing of cruise missile attacks to manipulate public sympathy at crucial points when his approval ratings sagged. On several occasions generally when the approval ratings dipped to 47%, surprise cruise missile attacks were launched which resulted in a 10 point gain in the public opinion polls. Nick Gillespie of Reason remarked,

“ Consider, for instance, the relative lack of scrutiny accorded the August 20 cruise missile attacks on Afghanistan and Sudan … immediately after the bombing, polls showed that close to half of all Americans thought the missile strikes were meant to divert attention from the president's sex life… the Sudanese bombing suggests something else as well: If and when the public's and the media's attention shifts from the president's sex life to wider-ranging inquiries about how he makes deadly serious policy decisions…"

Figures you would change the subject...
Always a loon-

Come on big talker (just like Clinton)
Put together a list of all of Clinton's strong actions on terrorism. You started this claiming he did a lot... but the FACTS (details of substance) prove he did nothing.

Maybe Clinton had a secret war on terror, and all his actions were covert. 9-11 was just as much Clinton's fault as Bush's. Yet you try to pass the blame, as it tarnishes your boys legacy.

"Wow. So if a Republican turns on the light during sex, or fucks without a sheet between them, or if a fingertip brushes a forbidden anatomical feature, then its all over - a slippery slope to necrophilia and beastiality. No wonder they crack so frequently, and end up throwing everything away to kneel in week-old piss blowing strangers."

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Yeah, frequently....and what was Clinton's excuse?

Got objective numbers about your claim, Loin or are you just pulling it out of one of your errogenous zones like you always do?

You see Loin, I could care less what you do in your bedroom....luckily modern medicine has developed tools to save fools like you who make poor choices....

The same with anon poster....casual, noncommitment sex along with a carefree attitude to what is actually done, despite bacterial and viral transmission has consequences....

a la Craig
a la Clinton

a la the pedophile just arrested yesterday....
a la a huge and rapid spread of deadly STD's throughout the years....just recently here in the 1980's and even worse now in Africa.

But no, personal hygeine and care/respect has no part in the equation according to the elite and brilliant left.

No Loin, show me empirical data regarding your assertions and I'll show you mine. (yes, I was trying to sound sexual!)

wink, wink.

Like I said gents, be careful....Your partners would appreciate some respect, kindness and gentleness in your testosterone driven spasms to pleasure yourselves.....

Just a little.

Posted by: cee at August 31, 2007 12:21 PM

You would be amazed at what a little of such attention can do for a lady's state of mind cee - it doesn't all have to be about the patriarch.

...but you said something very interesting above, cee:

"Oh yeah....sex with love and commitment is another myth us fundy flat-earthers like to talk about too"

Love, commitment and trust are what monogamous, heterosexual oral sex is all about - that and a fucking fantastic time! You make this pious statement, yet all of your admonitions against "sodomy" are based on distrust and the assumption of a wide network of sexual partners. I've never had an STD in my life, or used a condom during my marriage, and I have faith that I have nothing to worry about in this regard.

Interesting (but long) essay. I have copied one section where the author talks about Keith Olbermann. (The author states that the Vick special comment was taken off the youtube---since I pretty much boycott youtube, perhaps someone else can verify).

Michael Vick's Apologists - Not Quite Ready For Pedophiles
By Gary Krasner (08/31/07)

http://www.americandaily.com/article/20117

Excerpt:

Worst Person in the World

Leaving the most fatuous example for last, we have Keith Olbermann---a sportscaster who is the host of the nightly political commentary show (but with a news format), Countdown on MS-NBC, and was recently given anchor assignments for NBC outside of his regular show.

Given that Countdown garners the lowest ratings of any primetime cable news show, many people probably don't know who he is. The best analog to Mr. Olbermann is the character Oliver Crangle, played by the great actor Theordore Bikel, from the old Twilight Episode, "Four O'Clock".

Scifilm.org provides a synopsis of this episode, which first aired on April 6, 1962:

Mr. Oliver Crangle is on a great crusade: nothing less than the complete eradication of evil from the world! Crangle is utterly dedicated to this great goal. Every day he scans newspapers, listens to radio broadcasts, and otherwise keeps detailed records on vast numbers of people. Those whom he considers weak, evil and unfit are to be destroyed, usually through innuendo, rumor and hearsay. With only his parrot Pete as his friend, he tirelessly pursues his project.

Yet now Crangle is on the verge of his ultimate breakthrough. He believes has achieved the power to turn all the evil people of the world into two-foot tall midgets, thus eliminating their threat! At precisely the hour of four o'clock, Crangle will unleash this awesome power on the world.

Is Crangle a deranged madman...or does he really have this power? The answers lie in, The Twilight Zone.

That just about sums up Countdown. It's a show which primarily serves the ego of Olbermann---who imagines himself as the current day version of Edward R. Murrow---and whose mission it is to identify political villains for the angry left, to get angry at. I suppose if someone made a remake of this episode, then NBC News Correspondent David Schuster would be best cast as Crangle's parrot, Pete. He and Olbermann would identify Republicans as the evil people, in the nightly Countdown segment, "Worst Person in the World." But as politically correct liberals, they would have to turn them into something other than "midgets".

What has become a popular feature for Mr. Olbermann's dwindling left-leaning audience is his angry tirades, reminiscent of the fictional news anchor Howard Beale, from the movie, Network. The notable variance that parts from Paddy Chayefsky's Oscar-winning script is that Mr. Olbermann's angry commentaries (billed as "Special Comments") has not catapulted Countdown to the top of the ratings.

Anyway, on his August 27th Countdown show, Mr. Olbermann filed an update of a Special Comment on the Vick affair. It was an abridged version of the commentary he delivered about Vick during the half-time segment of NBC's Sunday-night football game that weekend. It was an uninhibited---and of course, angry---reprimand to those who do not want to see Vick return to professional sports.

Following that commentary, I understand NBC was deluged with angry calls from viewers, probably because most sports fans just want to have fun watching the game---without the vitriol that accompanies Mr. Olbermann's brand of politics. Fortunately for NBC, both Bob Costas and Cris Collingsworth were on hand to soften the blow and offer explanations. But NBC still pulled Mr. Olbermann's commentary off of youtube.com.

I will hit you in the back of the head with a can of Bud while I'm driving by in my SUV. I can afford $20/gallon. You can't.

Posted by: Ted Nugent at August 31, 2007 12:20 PM

But you can't afford anything better than Budweisser piss-water? That crap was cooked up for people who can't stomach real beer. Your fantastic wealth is wasted on someone with your pedestrian tastes.

Sounds like Oliver Crangle is Olbermann to the tee. Johnny $ should put clips of Crangle up with clips of Olbermann. Pretty telling that NBC doesn't want that commentary on U-Tube.

It's true. Our post of the Olbermann commentary was removed at the request of NBC. Meanwhile, thousands of other Olbermann clips remain standing. Odd.

It's true. Our post of the Olbermann commentary was removed at the request of NBC. Meanwhile, thousands of other Olbermann clips remain standing. Odd.

Posted by: johnny dollar at August 31, 2007 1:27 PM

Imagine a similar scenario with O'Reilly and FOX News.

THAT would result in a week of Countdown #1 Story/stories and at least one re-enactment...

It's true. Our post of the Olbermann commentary was removed at the request of NBC. Meanwhile, thousands of other Olbermann clips remain standing. Odd.
Posted by: johnny dollar at August 31, 2007 1:27 PM

Do think the NFL wanted it removed? This is very odd. I agree with Cecelia, that if this a "Bill-O" thing, we'd never hear the end of it. Funny how the MSM is ignoring this little factoid. Maybe you guys should have a separate thread about it, to remind people of the bullsh*t hypocrisy of NBC & the MSM.

Ahh the two Americas. Help us John Edwards.

The following are facts about persons defined as "poor" by the Census Bureau, taken from a variety of government reports:

46 percent of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio.\

80 percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, in 1970, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.

Only six percent of poor households are overcrowded; two thirds have more than two rooms per person.
The typical poor American has more living space than the average individual living in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens, and other cities throughout Europe. (These comparisons are to the average citizens in foreign countries, not to those classified as poor.)

Nearly three quarters of poor households own a car; 31 percent own two or more cars.
97 percent of poor households have a color television; over half own two or more color televisions.

78 percent have a VCR or DVD player.

62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception.

89 percent own microwave ovens, more than half have a stereo, and a more than a third have an automatic dishwasher.

Another Clinton cronie off to the big house, the list keeps getting longer.

8/31/2007 12:41:05 PM
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Factor quotes and article where the author states that he got his data from "a variety of sources".

Translation: It is bullshit...

Looks like 2:27 is off to Iowa for the weekend......Have a nice trip!

No Larry, I ended an absurd debate with some humor stemming from some poster's ignorance about clinical and legal definitions.....

And the benefits of good judgement....

And the pitfalls of calling one man a pervert when the same activity is overlooked as "normal" when someone else does it....

And the left's pleasant fantasy world where when a young, impresionable woman sodomizes the married leader of the free world there are no negative consequences....

Like 9/11.....

I can say I do not harbor that sexual preference or suffer from the paraphilia Sir Loin of Milquetoast unscientifically and superstitiously believes arises because some religious conservative is "sexually repressed."

Either provide your empirical evidence or join us in the 21st century, Loin.

who cares about the Iraqi women and children. Do you think if American women and their babies were being killed, the Iraqis would gave a rat's ass???

... as sandy berger tries to ch