Who's rug is worse. Olby's or Howard's?

More Lies, Big Foot is right behind you.

When you or Olbyfuck or Rosie or Mike Lussy or AAP or baldheaded rat or SLOB or codumbass have prove GW lied then somone may care, until then get back in your sandbox and play with your Barbie Dolls.

Two nights ago on Mathews they had Melanie Sloan on the Rove resignation. She said she believed Rove did this, she thinks he did that, she believes he broke this and thinks he broke that. Then the other guest, Digenova said her accusations were ridiculous.

My first thought is you little liberal bitches whine about losing your rights because George Bush is trying to protect us. Two weeks ago Feingold said on Meet the Press that he believed GW broke the law.

What should scare people are elected US officials wanting to hang someone because they "think" they broke the law and some Olbyloon cawk chuggers on this board that cry about rights when someone is trying to protect us and kill terrorist. There was a time I thought Hillary may have a chance a few weeks ago but now I see she can never win. O'Sambo? Forgetaboutit.

Lawrence O'Donald. Now there is a real non-partisan journalist. He's just like Olbyfuck, the best part of him ran down his mommy's crack. Hillary is more of a man than him. I bet Rosie could beat the crap out of him. I'd give a nut just to slap him.

Interview the folks moonbats hate?
Krazy Keith couldn't win a debate
If his life depended
It would be suspended
Countdown's where the loons masturbate

> He is a serious newsman

What is his journalistic training to be a serious newsman? Oh, what do you know, it's even less than Oralmann himself! Democratic party political hack, campaign advisor with a dismal record, Hollywood scriptwriter, and bit-role actor.

Yeah, another lefty politico with more discredited predictions than Jason Leopold. Nobody on MSNBC would book Crazy Larry until Olbermoronn threw him a lifeline. That's what passes for "a serious newsman" on OlbyPlanet.

Pisses Chicken Clucker:

"It's Lawrence O'Donnell, Laura the Lush. He is a serious newsman, so I am sure you have never listened to or read him."

END QUOTE

Um, a couple of months ago Lawrence O'Faggot [sic] said "George Bush is a liar, George Bush is a liar, George Bush is a liar, George Bush is a liar" about 10 times ina row. I would have got up and slapped the shit out of that bitch. She's just like Olby. In fact, when Olby finally gets the boot it will be Lawrence who replaces him.

I'm still waiting for one of you faggots to have GW lied about anything.

I've said it for years. Liberals do now even make complete sentences with a subject, verb and predicate. They throw out words and catch phrases. I could take a puppet and name it DUmb Fuck or Olbermann and ram a tape recorder up it's ass with this message on the tape, turn it on and it would get votes from you liberal morons:

"Ken Ley, Trent Lott, Tom Delay, Haliburton, the religious right, Big oil, big drug, the wealthy, the rich, white man is out to getcha, Jerry Farwell, Pat Robinson".

I could care less about how to spell Lawrence O'Faggot s name. He aint a man.

But perhaps the most dramatic example cited as bias was committed by MSNBC Senior Political Analyst Lawrence O’Donnell, who during a brief news interview last Friday accused a Kerry critic an astonishing 39 times of being a liar.

In this October 22, 2004 interview on MSNBC’s “Scarborough Country,” O’Donnell attacked John O’Neill, co-author of the book Unfit for Command that reflected the views of 264 of Kerry’s fellow Swiftboat Vietnam veterans. The book and television ads featuring some of these veterans had damaged Kerry by disputing his claims to have been a war hero. O’Donnell, as journalist co-interviewer of O’Neill with substitute show host Pat Buchanan, interjected epithets and repeatedly cut off O’Neill’s answers after a few words in an apparent attempt to prevent what the guest was saying from being heard by the audience.

Below, from the full interview transcript, is an extract done by James Taranto of the Wall Street Journal of some of Lawrence O’Donnell’s inquisition:

"It's one of the many lies that the book advances. To me the most interesting lie, John O'Neill, that I would submit to you that you should answer, is, you make a lying claim that John Kerry's antiwar activity prolonged the amount of time that prisoners of war were held in Vietnam. . . . That's a lie, John O'Neill! Keep lying, it's all you do! . . . Lies! . . . Which is not in John O'Neill's book, 'cause it's a lie! . . . That's a lie! It's another lie! That's a lie! Absolute lie! You lie in that book endlessly! . . . You lie about documents endlessly! . . . You're just lying about it! And you lied about Thurlow's Bronze Star! You lied about it as long as you could until the New York Times found the wording of what was on the citation that you as a lying writer refused to put in your pack of lies! . . . Disgusting, lying book! . . . You have no standards, John O'Neill, as an author, and you know it! It's a pack of lies! You are unfit to publish! . . . He just lied to you! He spews out this filth! Point to his name on the report, you liar! Point to his name, you liar! . . . You just spew lies! . . . I just hate the lies of John O'Neill. I hate lies. It's not an argument; they're proven lies. . . . O'Neill's a liar, he's been a liar for 35 years about this, and he's found other liars [unintelligible]. . . . They lied! . . . They're lying somewhere! . . . Lies! Just tell me the initials, you liar! Creepy liar! . . . You are a liar who makes things up! . . . You want the lies! That's how you make your living, on lies!"

But after his bizarre behavior in 2004 during the MSNBC interview with John O’Neill, according to what Pat Buchanan told viewers on October 25, O’Donnell was required to promise that he would never again act so irresponsibly. O’Donnell was not fired by MSNBC, a network currently [at the time] headed by liberal close friend and supporter of Bill and Hillary Clinton Rick Kaplan.

In exchange for his promise of good behavior, delivered not personally but via a surrogate, Lawrence O’Donnell was able to prevent Kerry critic John O’Neill from being heard and thereby doing further damage to Kerry days before the 2004 national election.

O’Donnell’s high-handed behavior, and this NBC-co-owned network’s refusal to fire him, has damaged the credibility of news channel MSNBC and of NBC as a whole.

O’Donnell’s bullying and shouting down of the soft-spoken John O’Neill seemed to reflect a solipsistic megalomania at or past the borderline of madness.

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID={A1BDAA3D-07B3-4BE4-9373-7FA37F33A944}

"I could could take a puppet and name it DUmb Fuck or Olbermann and ram a tape recorder up it's ass with this message on the tape, turn it on and get votes from you liberal morons.

The author of THAT just gave us an English lesson!.............ROFLMAO!

Take him with pride, right wingers...he's one of yours!

I relized why fox get so many more viewers. The other day i actually watched it for a few minutes (niel Cavuto) and in a span of 15 minutes they had Donald Trump, Harold Ford Jr., Rick Santorum, and Dan Rather all on. Say what you will, but Thats a pretty bad ass lineup.

Yes and that's a liberal -to-conservative ratio of 3-1.

Harold Ford is a liberal ? How small is your view of the world... Trump a liberal ?.. why because he disagrees with this pathetic pile of shit president. ?

i posted the original comment about the guys on fox and i wasn't necessarily pointing out fairness on one side or the other. I was pointing out the recognizability of these guys.

as for where they stand, well santorum is a conservative (i assume no arguments there lol) Ford jr. is a moderate, although a democrat. Trump is capitalist, but not neccessarily conservative. And as for Rather, despite a dislike for Bush, i'd like to think he's moderate on the issues (as i like to think all hosts of the major nightly newscasts are).

Ford:

supports universal health care
opposes death penalty
against ANWR drilling
for federal federal funding of stem cell research

Trump:

pro choice
pro gay marriage
14% tax on "wealthy" to "ease national debt"
pro gun control (supports assault weapons ban)

>Yeah, another lefty politico with more discredited predictions than Jason Leopold. Nobody on MSNBC would book Crazy Larry until Olbermoronn threw him a lifeline. That's what passes for "a serious newsman" on OlbyPlanet.

Posted by: johnny dollar at August 15, 2007 2:13 PM

....And that's what passes as 'non-partisan' on Planet Cox.

Nice three dollar bill. Great Thanks!

Immigration divides Romney and Giuliani

By LIBBY QUAID, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 13 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Mitt Romney accuses former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani of making his city a haven for illegal immigrants. Giuliani denies it, insisting he cracked down on lawlessness of every kind.

It's the first real clash between two leading Republican candidates who are vulnerable on immigration, a volatile issue that infuriates Republican conservatives who hold sway over primary elections.

At issue are so-called sanctuary cities, places where city employees are not required to report illegal immigrants to federal authorities. Some, such as San Francisco, have declared themselves sanctuaries or refuges. Others, like New York, have never adopted the "sanctuary" moniker.

New York's policy, issued by Democratic Mayor Ed Koch in 1988, is intended to make illegal immigrants feel that they can report crimes, send their children to school or seek medical treatment without fear of being reported.

An estimated half-million illegal and undocumented immigrants live in New York, and only a fraction are deported each year.

"What's the best thing to do about that?" Giuliani asked in 1996. "Put them in a situation in which they keep children out of school? Put them in a situation in which they don't go to hospitals? Or put them in a situation in which they don't report crimes to the police?"

Giuliani went to court to preserve the policy, suing over a 1996 attempt by Congress to undo the city's protections. He lost, but Mayor Mike Bloomberg later issued a new, broader version of the policy that is still in effect.

In the presidential campaign, Giuliani and Romney are talking tough on immigration, even opposing the bipartisan immigration overhaul backed by President Bush. Yet their records are not necessarily tough. For example:

_Several illegal immigrants worked on Romney's lawn as employees of a lawn care company; Romney said he didn't know the company had hired illegal workers.

_As mayor, Giuliani often spoke positively about illegal immigrants: "If you come here, and you work hard, and you happen to be in an undocumented status, you're one of the people who we want in this city," he told The New York Times in 1994.

_Both Romney and Giuliani spoke favorably of 2006 legislation providing a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants; they opposed a similar bill earlier this year.

Immigration inflames conservatives in early voting states such as Iowa and South Carolina, where some argue that illegal immigrants are straining schools and hospitals, lowering wages or taking jobs from law-abiding citizens.

In Aiken, S.C., on Tuesday, Giuliani repeated a pledge to closely track immigrants with tamperproof identity cards, bolster fencing and law enforcement at the border and deport illegal immigrants who commit crimes.

Giuliani planned to highlight his support for a physical and technological fence with new radio ads beginning Wednesday in New Hampshire and Iowa. His technological fence would be a system of motion detectors, night vision monitors and video cameras.

Romney, inspecting border fencing and checkpoints Monday in San Diego, reiterated his plan to hire more Border Patrol agents, sanction employers who hire illegal immigrants and cut federal dollars for sanctuary cities.

Romney blames "don't tell" policies, and Giuliani's support for them, for luring millions of illegal immigrants to the United States.

"New York City was the poster child for sanctuary cities in the country," Romney said last week in Bettendorf, Iowa.

Giuliani's defense is that he cracked down on all crimes, including illegal immigration. "I don't think there was anybody in America who did a better job of making their city safe in the 1990s than I did," Giuliani said while campaigning in Carson, Iowa, on Wednesday. "I did that and I can do that for immigration."

And his campaign accused Romney of hypocrisy, pointing out that as governor of Massachusetts, Romney did not try to punish sanctuary cities — Cambridge, Orleans and Somerville — in his own state.

"He had three sanctuary cities in his own state," longtime Giuliani aide Randy Mastro said. "The New York City program was very different. We had a system that protected public safety by encouraging aliens to come forward to the authorities to report crimes, and then required authorities to cooperate in the investigation and prosecution of aliens who committed crimes."

Romney says he tried to curtail the problem by deputizing state police to enforce federal immigration laws.

"It was exactly in response to the fact that immigration laws were not being enforced," spokesman Kevin Madden said. "It was also in conjunction with his belief that enforcement has to be a joint state and federal effort."

Bloomberg, who may run for president himself, waded into the dispute this week. Asked Monday about the idea of New York as a sanctuary for illegal immigrants, he said, "Let 'em come."

"I can't think of any laboratory that shows better why you need a stream of immigrants than New York City," he added. "I don't know what to tell anybody. If they don't believe that immigrants add a heck of a lot more than they cost, they just aren't looking at the numbers."

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Associated Press writers Sara Kugler in New York, Mike Wilson in Carson, Iowa, and Philip Elliott in Concord, N.H., contributed to this report.

Harold Ford is a liberal ? How small is your view of the world... Trump a liberal ?.. why because he disagrees with this pathetic pile of president. ?

Posted by: Bill O'lielly at August 15, 2007 3:29 PM

Harold Ford is a democrat. He is not a moonbat zombie like you. He and Joe Biden are the type of democrats you should be nominating if you actually want to win elections. As for Trump, Trump is for anyone who is popular and he can attach his name to. If Bush were popular right now, he would be running around telling everyone he voted for him twice.

Olbermann wears a toupee.

Harold Ford and Joe Biden are the type of Democrats I vote for.
They're reasonable and reach out to the Right.
They're not part of the Olbermann/Stalinist/Islamic axis Wing of the Democratic Party!

But Joker.....How "reasonable" were you being the day you accused Markos Moulitas of being nabbed as a child molester, and then following that up with an accusation that Chris Mathews and Keith Olbermann had used their status at MSNBC to cover it up?

It's Lawrence O'Donnell, Laura the Lush. He is a serious newsman, so I am sure you have never listened to or read him. .

Posted by: Clucker at August 15, 2007 1:48 PM

Creepy Liar,..... Creepy liar.

But Joker.....How "reasonable" were you being the day you accused Markos Moulitas of being nabbed as a child molester, and then following that up with an accusation that Chris Mathews and Keith Olbermann had used their status at MSNBC to cover it up?

Posted by: Mike at August 15, 2007 5:02 PM

How reasonable were you when you claimed, and still do, that I hate our troops and think that not enough of them have died? Get lost, prick, like Johnny said.

Waiting for a transcript, but I heard Lawrence O'Donnell shout on today's TMG that he could care less that the troops are demoralized by Kerry's incessant cynicism about the Iraq war. Essentially he said they should keep their mouths shut and fight. I almost fell out of my chair. Did anybody else hear the exchange? Shocking!

Please write to McLaughlin producers at comments@mclaughlin.com to let them know that O'Donnell crossed the line of decency and really does not deserve to have access to an otherwise prestigious panel.

don't bother with anything O'Donnell says. He once described imself as a "practical European socialist."

Thats no joke.

MR. O’DONNELL: Look, it’s not our job to lie about war to make troops feel good. And I don’t care what they feel.

MR. BLANKLEY: I don’t –

MR. MCLAUGHLIN: Let me finish.

MR. O’DONNELL: I don’t care what they feel about the truth of this war. If John Kerry thinks this war is a mistake and if the United States of America elects him president, the troops are going to have to live with that. And they know better than anyone else whether it was a mistake or not.

MR. BUCHANAN: The commander-in-chief should not undermine the troops –

MR. O’DONNELL: He’s not undermining anything.

MR. MCLAUGHLIN: Do you want to make a point here?

MR. BUCHANAN: He’d demoralize them.

MR. MCLAUGHLIN: All right, the human –

MR. O’DONNELL: I don’t care if they’re demoralized. They have to go to war and be prepared –

MR. BUCHANAN: The commander-in-chief does care.

MR. O’DONNELL: — to live with the debate that goes on in the United States about whether it’s right or wrong.

MR. BUCHANAN: But if you’re going to be commander-in-chief, you cannot be demoralizing the troops in wartime, even if you think the war is a mistake.
***

Jeff, why do you think not enough of our troops have died?

i read the transcript and it wasn't all that bad. Not good, but not anything unusual for O'Donnell.

The only problem i have with it is his assessment, which is dead wrong. "I don't care if there demoralized, they have to go to war and be prepared."

the morale of soldiers is the most important aspect of any conflict. (not just this one)

If you lose the commitment of the soldiers, the war ends, period. (again, any war or conflict). SO his assertion is a dead wrong blanket statment.

O'Donnell in action.....unhinged, to say the least.

"It's one of the many lies that the book advances. To me the most interesting lie, John O'Neill, that I would submit to you that you should answer, is, you make a lying claim that John Kerry's antiwar activity prolonged the amount of time that prisoners of war were held in Vietnam. . . . That's a lie, John O'Neill! Keep lying, it's all you do! . . . Lies! . . . Which is not in John O'Neill's book, 'cause it's a lie! . . . That's a lie! It's another lie! That's a lie! Absolute lie! You lie in that book endlessly! . . . You lie about documents endlessly! . . . You're just lying about it! And you lied about Thurlow's Bronze Star! You lied about it as long as you could until the New York Times found the wording of what was on the citation that you as a lying writer refused to put in your pack of lies! . . . Disgusting, lying book! . . . You have no standards, John O'Neill, as an author, and you know it! It's a pack of lies! You are unfit to publish! . . . He just lied to you! He spews out this filth! Point to his name on the report, you liar! Point to his name, you liar! . . . You just spew lies! . . . I just hate the lies of John O'Neill. I hate lies. It's not an argument; they're proven lies. . . . O'Neill's a liar, he's been a liar for 35 years about this, and he's found other liars [unintelligible]. . . . They lied! . . . They're lying somewhere! . . . Lies! Just tell me the initials, you liar! Creepy liar! . . . You are a liar who makes things up! . . . You want the lies! That's how you make your living, on lies!"

Mike,
That was rumor I heard.
Plus Moulitsas looks like a molestoer.
Moulitsas, Olbermann and Matthews a suppoerters of the Iranian regime so therefore I don't respect them.

Prediction:
Tonight Olbermann will condemn Bush for listing the Iranian Revolutionary Gaurds as a terrorist group.
The Blue Blogs have condemned it so will Olby, watch!

Jeff, are you quoting Pat Buchanon? ....The true conservative who tried to talk some sense into George Bush BEFORE he he showed the monumental stupidity of insisting on invading Iraq.

THAT is where the Commander in Chief let his troops down the most.

"It's one of the many lies that the book advances. To me the most interesting lie, John O'Neill, that I would submit to you that you should answer, is, you make a lying claim that John Kerry's antiwar activity prolonged the amount of time that prisoners of war were held in Vietnam. . . . That's a lie, John O'Neill! Keep lying, it's all you do! . . . Lies! . . . Which is not in John O'Neill's book, 'cause it's a lie! . . . That's a lie! It's another lie! That's a lie! Absolute lie! You lie in that book endlessly! . . . You lie about documents endlessly! . . . You're just lying about it! And you lied about Thurlow's Bronze Star! You lied about it as long as you could until the New York Times found the wording of what was on the citation that you as a lying writer refused to put in your pack of lies! . . . Disgusting, lying book! . . . You have no standards, John O'Neill, as an author, and you know it! It's a pack of lies! You are unfit to publish! . . . He just lied to you! He spews out this filth! Point to his name on the report, you liar! Point to his name, you liar! . . . You just spew lies! . . . I just hate the lies of John O'Neill. I hate lies. It's not an argument; they're proven lies. . . . O'Neill's a liar, he's been a liar for 35 years about this, and he's found other liars [unintelligible]. . . . They lied! . . . They're lying somewhere! . . . Lies! Just tell me the initials, you liar! Creepy liar! . . . You are a liar who makes things up! . . . You want the lies! That's how you make your living, on lies!"
_________________________________________

wait, i dont see what he's saying here.

Is that a real transcript? lol.

Just as I thought Joker! Because you harbor the absolutely ridiculous opinion that they "support the Iranian regime", you decided it was perfectly OK to try to slime them with something they didn't do?

I'm going to wait for all the facts but I think I have a problem with labeling the Revolutionary guard of another sovereign nation "a terrorist group" as well.

Anything goes with you....doesn't it?

Mike,
What is it about Iran that you Leftists support it?
They call us a Terrorist nation and the Great Satan.
Why can't we be the same way them?
I'm glad Bush has labelled them a terror group.
He finally did something right!

Mike,
I guess the SS wasn't a terror group right?

"What is it about Iran that you leftists support it?"

Joker, the better question is what is it about you that makes you believe such ridiculous crap like that?

Mike,
Read the Blue Blogs like Think Progress.
They have condemned the move by Bush of Labeling the IRG as a terror group!
Whenever anyone criticizes Ahmadinejad they go hysterical!
Mike even you don't support this move an that speaks volumes.
Until proven otherwise I believe the Left supports Iran!
That's what the evidence holds!

Joker: "Thats what the evidence holds!"

Well, Joker...I'm just happy you're not a judge or don't hold a position of power in this great nation, because too many close minded dogmatic people such as yourself are exactly what it would take to turn a great Democrisy like ours into a ruthless dictatorship or a theocrisy (kind of like Iran, for example)!

mike, you probably don't know this because olbermahn didn't report it, but, the nice fellows you are defending are the ones that captured and held hostage the British soldiers. Among many other acts of war.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/08/15/mine-safety-czar-richard-_n_60581.html

The man who will oversee the federal government's investigation into the disaster that has trapped six workers in a Utah coal mine for over a week was twice rejected for his current job by senators concerned about his own safety record when he managed mines in the private sector.

President George W. Bush resorted to a recess appointment in October 2006 to anoint Richard Stickler as the nation's mine safety czar after it became clear he could not receive enough support even in a GOP-controlled Senate.

In the wake of the January 2006 Sago mine disaster in West Virginia, senators from both sides of the aisle expressed concern that Stickler was not the right person to combat climbing death rates in the nation's mines.

Democrats, led by West Virginia Sens. Robert Byrd and Jay Rockefeller, and Massachusetts Sen. Ted Kennedy, questioned the safety record of the mines Stickler ran when he was a coal company executive.

Over the course of his career in the private sector, Stickler managed various mining operations for Bethlehem Steel subsidiary BethEnergy Mines, Inc.

The Charleston (W.Va.) Gazette reported in January 2006 that three workers died at BethEnergy mines managed by Stickler during the 1980s and 1990s.

Gazette reporter Ken Ward, Jr. wrote that in the worst of the incidents, one mechanic was killed, and eight other workers were injured when the portal bus that was carrying them to the mine-shaft bottom derailed. A report later said the portal bus had not been properly maintained.

Stickler began his career as a general laborer at BethEnergy, eventually rising to manage the company's operations in Pennsylvania and Boone County, West Virginia.

He worked briefly for Massey Energy subsidiary Performance Coal in 1996 and 1997 before becoming head of the Pennsylvania mine safety office. Stickler retired from the post in 2003.

In addition to concerns about the safety record at his mines, Stickler also faced opposition from senators, union leaders and relatives of those killed in mine accidents who felt an industry insider should not oversee safety inspectors.

United Mine Workers of America President Cecil Roberts said that miners "could not tolerate" another industry executive overseeing their health and safety.

"Too often these mining executives place priority on productivity, but fail to focus on miners' health and safety," Roberts told Mike Hall at the AFL-CIO's blog in June 2006.

The wife and daughter of a miner killed at Sago wrote a letter to lawmakers that same month urging them to reject Stickler's nomination.

"Mr. Stickler is a longtime coal executive and because of his connections with the coal industry, we are concerned that his primary objectives may be solely on compliance and production, not on miners' health and safety,'' Debbie Hamner and Sara Bailey wrote in a letter quoted by the Gazette.

Bush first nominated Stickler to head the Mine Safety and Health Administration in September 2005. He received renewed attention from lawmakers following the Sago disaster. By May 2006 it was clear that Byrd and other Senate opponents would not allow Stickler's nomination to pass, and Republicans withdrew a scheduled vote on his job.

In July 2006, Labor Secretary Elaine Chao hired Stickler as a consultant and adviser, but insisted through a spokeswoman that she was not attempting to circumvent the nomination process.

In August and September of the same year, the Senate twice voted to send the Stickler nomination back to the White House.

In October 2006, Bush used a recess appointment to install Stickler -- a decision that was quickly denounced by senators from both sides of the aisle.

Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter, a Republican, told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that he "didn't think Mr. Stickler was the right man for the job." Another Pennsylvania Republican, Rick Santorum, also told the paper he was "disappointed" the White House had not let senators debate and vote on the nomination.

In a written statement Wednesday, Byrd told The Huffington Post that MSHA's response to the Crandall Canyon incident will be a test of Stickler's "worthiness to be properly confirmed by the United States Senate."

Byrd also expressed concern about the slow pace of the implementation of new mining safety laws established in the wake of the Sago disaster.

"I told Mr. Stickler about my concerns earlier this summer," he said. "Until I see better progress from MSHA, I will retain my hold on Mr. Stickler's nomination."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/08/15/mine-safety-czar-richard-_n_60581.ht

Mike,
Go to Daily Kos and Think Progress.
Iran is praised and if someone there attacks the regime the bloggers there go hysterical.
Iran is the new Cause celbre of the Left.
Ahmadinejad is the new Castro.
If you're against the Iranian regime, then good for you.
But watch Countdown tonight.
Olbermann will condemn this move and show his support of Iran!

Joker, how many times do I have to tell you that condemning the move to call their revolutionary guard a "Terrorist Organization" is hardly the same thing as 'praising' or 'supporting' Iran.

This is a ridiculous conversation and I'm not going to respond to it again.

Mike,
What's there to condem about this move?
They label us the Great Satan and attack us in their media.
Why not label them back?
Their media doesn't allow the Pro-US view on their shows, but we allow supporters of the Regime like Matthews and Olbermann to spew propaganda on behalf of Iran.
Let's play by their rules!

SPOlbyloon Ed

The Guard’s foreign operations arm is known as the Quds force. U.S. Lieutenant General Ray Odierno, commander of multinational forces in Iraq, says Quds force agents provide training and arms, including deadly roadside bombs, to Iraqi insurgents to attack U.S. forces.

“I would say, though, it is clear that they continue to interfere, the Quds Force continues to attempt to interfere in Iraqi, in operations inside of Iraq,” he said. “We continue to intercept weapons. We know there’s money that’s flowing in from Iran to certain insurgent groups in Iraq, and we will continue to work through this.”

In January, U.S. forces detained five Iranians in northern Iraq. The U.S. says they are Quds force operatives; Iran says they are diplomats. Many analysts believe the U.S. detention of the Iranians was at least one cause of the Iranian seizure of the British sailors.

Royalking,
So you believe Olby will come out in defence of Iran as the Blue Blogs are?

Royalking,
So you believe Olby will come out in defence of Iran as the Blue Blogs are?

Average American Patriot ,
Nobody is calling for an Invasion of Iran.
What I want is economic starngulation.
Many US States are pursuing a policy of de-investment of thir pensions with firms that have business with Iran.
We should pursue this at a national level.
This will pressure companies to stop investing in Iran.
Iran is very weak economically.
I say strangle them!

Of couse this will upset Iranian supporters as yourself.

I addressed this issue earlier. I am hardly a blue blog, but i do oppose this move of naming Iranian RGC as terrorists. You can't call a military of a forign nation terrorists. As i said earlier, its not that they aren't supporting terrorists or that they aren't bad, but, and listen closely, SOLDIERS ARE NOT TERRORISTS. Soldiers fight for the flag under orders from their leaders. If there is proof that RGC is aiding terrorists in the killing of U.S. soldiers or Iraqi civilians, then they are fighting a proxy war or are commiting war crimes. In either case, they need to be dealt with, but they are not terrorists.

This may seem like splitting hairs. After all, bad guys are bad guys right? But this cheapens the word "terrorist" and makes a mockery of the "war on terror". What point is there when you can go around labeling anyone you want terrorists? I believe this is an important line that must be drawn.

Soldiers of the Iraqi armies who oversaw the killing of tens of thousands of shites post Gulf War certainly commited war crimes, but they aren't terrorists. Again, and i wish i could just shout this to every single sole in the State Department, Soldiers are not Terrorists! There may be trained factions of the army that utilize terrorist tactics, but these are still an extension of the military, which is an extension of the state. Which makes acts carried out by Quds not terrorist acts but state authorized acts of aggression.

I honest to God would rather see an outright declaration of war on Iran than this labeling of their forces as terrorists. This is absurd.

I should clarify, i dont actually WANT a declaration of war. (Dear God NO!!) But on principal, that act would be more acceptable that this one.

I agree with the guy who said we may need to get money out of the hands of the RGC, but we can do this w/o labeling them terrorists.

hawkeye guy, I don't agree with everything you have posted in several very intelligent and insightful posts, but you come as close to a nonpartisan 'clear thinker' as anyone I have ever read on this site.

I think everyone should go back and read your post yesterday about why you believe that since we unwisely broke Iraq, we owe it to them to try fix it....if at all possible.

You just hit the nail on the head at 7:02. Joker and others should read it.

Mike,
What's there to condem about this move?
They label us the Great Satan and attack us in their media.
Why not label them back?
Their media doesn't allow the Pro-US view on their shows, but we allow supporters of the Regime like Matthews and Olbermann to spew propaganda on behalf of Iran.
Let's play by their rules!

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why not label them back?

Joker, cause we are better than that. Iran isn't fooling anyone except maybe those within its own borders and the few Shia radicals outside of it. The world sees their rhetoric for what it is. But when we resort to the same stuff, it raises questions about our sincerity in this conflict.

If they are the enemy killing Americans in Iraq, label them as such. But not terrorists.

But yet you can't bring yourself to call Olbermann on his hypocrisy can you Name? Oh no, he's never ever wrong is he, at least to you Olbyloons who worship him on bended knee.

I can't be bothered with anything lately, but that's how it is. Nothing seems important, but what can I say? Shrug.

Posted by: band cigar diamond ring at August 8, 2007 9:29 PM

I can't be bothered with anything lately. My mind is like a fog. I've just been hanging out not getting anything done. I've more or less been doing nothing.

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Witchcraft is, is not evil

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Posted by: best chocolate candy at August 13, 2007 8:26 PM

I feel like a fog, not that it matters. I've pretty much been doing nothing , but eh. Today was a loss. I haven't gotten much done for a while.

Posted by: vinyl tote bag at August 14, 2007 6:04 PM

More or less nothing seems important. I've just been letting everything happen without me recently. I can't be bothered with anything recently, but such is life. My life's been generally bland today. Not much on my mind these days, but eh.

Posted by: zoe met art at August 15, 2007 6:03 PM

hawkeye guy ,
You make a legitimate point.
After all the SS wasn't label as terrorists.
What I disagree is that I'm sick of the US being the nice guy.
We let jerks like Ahmadinejad and Chavez insult us daily and we don't respond.
Nobody respects that.
I don't see them saying that to China.
Because China would insult them back.
It's time for America to disrespect it's enemies and call them out for what they are.
Let's strt by economic strangulation of Iran and not allowing their leaders or Chavez to come to NY for UN meetings.
If the UN don't like it, screw em.
Let's pull out of the UN and rip up all these global treaties and let the World order collapse.
We have 7,000 Nukes who'll invade us.
It's time for spledid Isolation.
When America was Isolationist we were better off!

>But yet you can't bring yourself to call Olbermann on his hypocrisy can you Name? Oh no, he's never ever wrong is he, at least to you Olbyloons who worship him on bended knee.

Posted by: Brandon at August 15, 2007 7:38 PM

And Brandon worships cocks, er I mean cox on bended knee.

LMFAO!

Mikey, your mutts are calling you back there genuis boy. By the way there little libby, learn that when implying plural's use the, 's. Youz just a genuis aren't you. Now find the misspelled word's mikey.

Does Olbermann have proof that any of the dead people whose bodies he has stood on who just, according to him, loved is show is correct? No, but you take his word as law.

I find it incredibly amusing you just admitted you do not even watch his show but that YOU only come here to spew and to vent for your hatred of the Republican party, the White House and anything and anyone you perceive as not being a liberal. But keep on making your oh-so-amusing little posts. They are prime examples of the Olbypocrisy mindset.

Brandon, that's the libonuts. They watch nothing and only read site's that they believe they can have something their lover site's deny, free speech. You only send the enemy to ground by fighting with them by their rules. Do you believe if we took the actions we have done in any war started by demonut that our troops wouldn't have been home years ago? What would JFK have done? You hear no American hating lib ask that question to their ilk. And this 3 yr president is referenced daily by the libs.

Spell and grammar check please dr. mikey phd. Phoney Halo Demonut

Of course you don't.
You're just a lonely frustrated republican who needs to vent on someone.
Unfortunately, you've chosen the wrong person.
KO makes no domestic or national defense policy. But the ones who do, you give carte blanche to.
If there is a smell of hypocrisy around, it's emanating from your mouth.

Posted by: Why Do you care at August 15, 2007 7:48 PM

He doesn't? You are a oarlomann loon then because your life buddy calls on peple to resign so he is in fact trying to control domestic policy. You loons need to get out of mommy's basement and get some freash air before the few remaining brain cells you have are exhausted. Spell check please dr. mikey, phd. Phoney Halo Demonut

And as I have said many many times, Keith Olbermann takes news items right off the news wire, which is why he pisses you off so much.
You can't handle the news !
( because it makes your ideology look like a trash heap of failed ideas)

Posted by: Why Do you care at August 15, 2007 8:06 PM

And what "news wires" might those be? Do enlighten all of us please. Blogs and reports by only nbc "reporter's are not news wires. Please provide baseballmanns wire service's that he has used in the "6" days he hasn't been in the tub with his rubber duckie this month.

Ohhhh. A loon with no facts and calling names. It's okay loony. Calling names is a sign of affection, just ask ol' BJ and his pal George H.W. Bush. You are just the pride of your mommy aren't you. Didn't she tell you to get out of the basement and get some good clean American Air?

Scotty, you came on this blog last night like you thought you were some big bad wild west gunslinger calling out us "bad guys", and then you promply made a complete fool out of yourself.

Now here you are again throwing out your ridiculous 'liby' stereotypes and name calling with no real coherent arguments.

Don't you learn?

Wow, imagine me wanting to post about Keith Olbermann on a website, called Olbermannwatch. But as part of the mental disorder that is so common amongst Olbermann's fiercest supporters is this compulsion they have to change the subject when Olbermann is being discussed. But Name seems to think that Daily Kos, Democratic Underground, Media Matters, and Talking Points Memo are reliable "news" sources. Yeah, in the same way that Olby hosts a "news" show I suppose. But again, great thanks to you Name for illustrating in full just how loony the left and the Olbyloons truly are.

Just call Scotty an ignoranmus.

Posted by: Why Do you care at August 15, 2007 8:12 PM

Okay, now you're in deep stuff there coward o no name. You misspelled ignoramus and now you have to answer to dr. mikey, phd, Phoney Halo Demonut. Bad, bad, libby. Misspelling words.

Who's the worst person tonight Brandon? My bet is on Gibby again. I called it yesterday on Johnny's and with the radio show last night I think he's a lock again. Hideyourdaughtersmann is now setting his sites on Gibby wich is so freakin' funny since Gibson knows all about the I'macowardandwon'tgotoiraqmann to find out the facts for myself. I wish Fox would turn Gibson loose on air. Better yet, let Gibson sub for O'Reilly and than see how fast the tubmann hides under the desk with his duckie. Now that would be classic.

Let's pull out of the UN and rip up all these global treaties and let the World order collapse.
We have 7,000 Nukes who'll invade us.
It's time for spledid Isolation.
When America was Isolationist we were better off.
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That was lovely. I think i may see the point of your screen name, or at least i hope i do.

I'm not defending the UN. I really dislike that body for a lot of reasons. But the key is to use our influence to change it, so that it might actually help people. (Honestly, what debate could their possibly be over Darfur? China needs more Oil?)

Isolationism, in any form, global or economic, is not generally good policy. Especially when you are in a position of such power that you can shape the world more towards your ideals, which, and i know its hard to see it sometimes, the U.S. has done a great deal of in the last 50 years.

Okay and now you have proven you aren't able to spell, read or comprehend a simple sentence. You are a good libby. I can't sign over this machine so let me try again. You provided no news wires to back up your original statement. So, you must first prove your news wires that you stated your boyomann uses. I stated he uses no news wires, blogs and nbc "reporter's" or not news wire's. Now do you comprehend? It's simple English and dr. mikey, phd, will be upset and banish you to the muttopound for being a bad laughomann.

I read 3 newspapers day.

Posted by: Why Do you care at August 15, 2007 8:20 PM

bbc, old york times and usa today

FYI, I was laughing at Scott getting his ass kicked.
at 8:34

Posted by: at August 15, 2007 8:41 PM

LMAO. By whom? You of no name cowardise.

I think we now have another contender for biggest moron at this site.( Scott)
You think RK is going to be happy having competition ?

Posted by: Why Do you care at August 15, 2007 8:39 PM

Now now little mutty. The only moron is "he" whom still has not answered a simple question that you claimed I never asked so you, simpleton, have proven that you, as a lib, are incapable of reading, comprehending and the worse of the worse loonospelling. dr. mikey, phd, is going to spank you for all those misspelled word's.

I read 3 newspapers day.

Posted by: Why Do you care at August 15, 2007 8:20 PM

3 more than your boyomann. So you are learning to read. We are very proud of you. Gold Star on the board for you. Now you can teach Keithy.

When a some democrats suggested troop reductions they were called every name in the book.

OK..wingnuts Let Petraeus have it with both barrels !

( like that would happen)
There is nothing like right wing hypocrisy !

Posted by: Why Do you care at August 15, 2007 7:21 PM

patsy, let me explain, slowly. Packing up every single soldier and leaving Iraq is slightly different than "reducing" troop numbers in one or two areas, which is what Petraeus wants to do. Got it, spolbyloon?

Pea Brain: This is exactly why people don't respect you. Learn. Grow.

Posted by: Clucker at August 15, 2007 6:58 PM

OK rudy. You are the self righteous psycho.

Hey RK. Explaining slowly doesn't seem to help because I have had to type the same thing so many times and the reading skills explains why the demonnutts won and why the run to the kosmokiddies. You have to know what those letters mean on voting day. Don't you? LOL. But then again they are the ones that have generations believing area 51 has alien's. My Bad. They do and they have been let loose to pad toupeeomann rating.

Scotty on "demonnutts": "But then they are the ones that have generations believing area 51 has alien's".

LMAO!

I've seen you desparadoes make a lot of ridiculous and DUMB political stereotypes about democrats.....but I hadn't heard THAT one before!

wow, i just cant get over all the intelligent debates that takes place here.

When there is a string of 5 or more straight posts that dont have the words "psycho, bushwipe, liberal pansy, facist, commie, dipshit, pea brain, nut job, or any variation of the word olbyloon" let me know.

and if i read the word hipocracy one more time, i may kill someone. (which would, ironically, make me a hipocrit.)

See dr.'mikey,' phd. Great minds think alone and not with rabid mutts, loons or demonnutts. It's okay dr. 'mikey' not all of us can have the brain cells of a orbital loon. Now go outside and get freash air and maybe some of the metorshowers sprinkles will visit your neurons. Find the misspelled words dr. 'mikey' phd.

Scotty see the post at 9:15 and tell us how you think your presence is raising the level of collective IQ on this blog?

wow, i just cant get over all the intelligent debates that takes place here.

When there is a string of 5 or more straight posts that dont have the words "psycho, bushwipe, liberal pansy, facist, commie, dipshit, pea brain, nut job, or any variation of the word olbyloon" let me know.

and if i read the word hipocracy one more time, i may kill someone. (which would, ironically, make me a hipocrit.)

Posted by: hawkeye guy at August 15, 2007 9:15 PM

LMAO..Have to be from Iowa there Hawkeye guy. I figured that out and noballomann didn't even send me secret signals through the tv. LOL Go Huskers, Hawkeye's and Cyclone's.

hawkeye guy,
We'll agree to disagree.
America was the most properous and peaceful during the Isolationist era.
George Washington said to beware of foreign entanglements.

Scotty see the post at 9:15 and tell us how you think your presence is raising the level of collective IQ on this blog?

Posted by: Mike at August 15, 2007 9:23 PM

Look at any one of your "opinion pieces" and ask yourself the same thing.

Well with your IQ of 30 it really doesn't really take much now does it dr. 'mikey' phd.

find the grammarical error dr. 'mikey' phd.

RK, dr. 'mikey' phd, Phoney Halo Demonut, has yet, after 22 hours, answered my simple question of which party and candidates are the richest. dr. 'mikey' phd, just spell and grammar checks. Like a good little moonbeam demonut standing outside waiting for star rays to make them 'mart he's waiting for the answer to come down from 'his' ballomann.

George Washington said to beware of foreign entanglements.
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George Washington gave wise advise in his farewell address. Advise that Europe could have used pre WWI. But, he also lived in a different world.

The economy is global, and thats not changing. And entanglements, such as NATO, were necessary at the time they were created. You have to be careful with entanglements to be sure, but that doesn't mean you can completly write them off.

As for isolationism, pre WWII, i too would likely have been as big an isolationist as you. But again, the world has changed.

and as for Scott, yeah i'm from Iowa. Aren't you just so jealous that we get all the politicans? (note the sarcasm in that last statement)

And Go Hawkeyes indeed. Down with the Cyclones though.

looks like tubarubomann and matthews are in a bad way. Wonder who will be fired after hideyourdaughtersmann remark about matthews?

Scotty, you came on this blog last night sarcastically calling me a "genuis", not once, but four times in a row. I called you on it and then you tried to cover your ass by claiming you did it on purpose. No amount of attempted false harrassment calling me a "spell checker" is going to cover for you on that.

When you name call in an attempt to demean someone else's intelligence in the process, you damned well better spell the very word you used to do it with correctly. Jeff found that out when he misspelled "imbOcile" while calling someone else an embecile one night....and someone (else) called him on it. Jeff STILL doesn't understand why he caught grief for that...please tell us you're not THAT stupid!

Scotty baby, you swaggered in here last night claiming you wanted to 'debate' about something while decrying "name calling" at the same time...yet you've done nothing but name call since you started, and you haven't debated one damned thing yet!

There is a word for that, but I don't want to risk making Hawkeye Guy kill someone by using it again.

CB here, Hawkeye, they know where to come to find the brightest and most informed in the world. Reading a menu or watching Scooby-Do like those elitist, lol, biggest polluters of the left and left coast smogsters. Go Huskers. LOL

dr. 'mikey' phd. I've been here al along and the genius you are never put 2 and 2 together, and still haven't. So blow back to the mutt site belive you are superior. Now answer the damn question I asked now 23 hours ago that you still refuse to answe. I just asked you again 30 mins ago and you still don't answer. It's okay dr. 'mikey' phd, if you're not smart and have not yet caught your rays from the meteor shower of last weekend. It's okay dr. 'mikey' really. I'm sure mommy keithy will still want you.

There is a word for that, but I don't want to risk making Hawkeye Guy kill someone by using it again.
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mike, you have no idea how many lives you just saved. lol.

When you name call in an attempt to demean someone else's intelligence in the process, you damned well better spell the very word you used to do it with correctly.

Posted by: Mike at August 15, 2007 9:41 PM

LMAOFO. See dr. 'mikey' phduhhh. Now this has to be absolute proof that you have no debate, argument, can't answer SIMPLE QUESTION'S, thus you are a moonbeam libby. It's okay, the mothership will be back to get you someday. But, you must first get clearence from your mutt masters before you can go to Pluto and see if goofyomann will let you back. It's okay dr. 'mikey' you have no answer to simple questions and thus I must appolgize to 30 IQ ballaboyamann fans. SORRY! Hunt for those misspelled words dr. 'mikey' phduh

Further proof that the RW'ers don't read.
Must like to model themselves after their president.

Posted by: at August 15, 2007 10:01 PM

Further proof that we must get dr 'mikey' phduh and his pal dr 'goreduh' to ban those dangerous meteor shower's.

you damned well better spell the very word you used to do it with correctly.

Posted by: Mike at August 15, 2007 9:41 PM

were you sleeping last night or looking for the mothership, dr. 'mikey' GENUIS. LMAO. See what I tried to teach you lastnight that you are so libed out that you can't even tell you someone is playing you for a dumbass. Read and comprehend there GENIUS. Find that misspelled word there dr. 'mikey' phduh. Born a fool, raised a fool, gonna die a fool. LOL

Scotty, when exactly are you going to stop your inane name calling and TRY to actually debate something?

The reason you failed when you tried to 'teach' me something last night is you have nothing whatsoever to 'teach' me.

The FACT remains that you have looked and acted like an absolute fool from the moment you walked in this 'room', not to mention an ass. Are you one of Jeff's tavern buddies he talks about so much?

You aschew "name calling" but it seems thats all you really want to do.

Finally 'genius', attampting to engage the opposition armed with nothing but insults and stereotypes only works in the movies.

"GENUIS".......LMAO!

There is a word for that, but I don't want to risk making Hawkeye Guy kill someone by using it again.

Posted by: Mike at August 15, 2007 9:41 PM

That word is probably on your mailbox, if you have one.

RK, dr. 'mikey' phd, Phoney Halo Demonut, has yet, after 22 hours, answered my simple question

Scott, don't hold your breath, it' been 2 months since I asked how he supports our troops, as he claimed over and over, it's been crickets ever since.

You still upset cause I figured out you were philby/rudy? Get over it and move on. Hey, what happened to "jennifer?" LOL!

http://www.boycottliberalism.com/biographies/Rkennedy.htm

Clucker, I remember when you posted as Mrs. Philby you claimed to be a teacher of some kind, many times. The other day you said you were going to turn your "office" loose on something that Sharon posted about, had to do with aids or something. Do you change professions with names?

So, that's a yes. You change professions with names. Thanks.

And as I have said many many times, Keith Olbermann takes news items right off the news wire, which is why he pisses you off so much. You can't handle the news !
( because it makes your ideology look like a trash heap of failed ideas)

Posted by: Why Do you care at August 15, 2007 8:06 PM

Well, WDYC, if Olby just took news right off the news wire, he would be no different than Paul Harvey,no?

Of course, the real disgust of the clear thinkers with Olbermann is his propensity to selectively choose stories meant to attack any person or organization that takes a position to the right of Olby's left fringe theology and to allow only those guests who will laugh, chortle, genuflect and parrot Olby's views while ignoring all other countervailing perspectives and evidence, resulting in a show where everyone's opinions are mutually reinforced and no one is held accountable for the basis of their opinions.

Do you consider Olbermann to be a high quality journalist?

Yeah, Hank, hearing someone spout off their views unchallenged is a bitch, isn't it?

"Name" who likes to change their name to "Care" from time to time doesn't get that Daily Kos, HuffPost, Democratic Underground, and Talking Points Memo, Media Matters et. al., are NOT reputable news sources. Neither does Olbermann. That would rather be the problem.

Yeah, Hank, hearing someone spout off their views unchallenged is a bitch, isn't it?

Posted by: Mega Dittos at August 16, 2007 2:37 AM

Well, it's only a "bitch" for people interested in all sides of an issue. And it certainly is not in keeping with Olbermann's self-proclaimed status as an objective "newsman" and a "journalist". Olbermann can spout his inane left wing fringe ideology before his infinitesimal audience for years to come for all I care. But I will continue to hammer him because he is a fraud masquerading as an "news" reporter when he is a just a left wing shill that will not allow his viewpoints to be challenged.

As for WDYC's post at 8:37: This is the essence of what passes for "thinking" on Planet Olbyloon. See, in WDYC's world, Olby should never be challenged at all because Olby is a god whose views are unassailable. To borrow from the scene in the Wizard of Oz when Dorothy and her cohorts approach Oz: "Who dares to question the great and mighty Olby?"

Well, how about this for starters:

1) How about bringing on Stephen Hayes author of a book called The Connection which establsihes that there were links between Iraq and al Quaeda well before 9/11. He would bring a definite counterbalance to the canard that Olbermann has subscribed to that the two were totally unconnected. Hayes has unearthed evidence to show this link. For example, in the spring of 1998--well before the U.S. embassy bombings in East Africa--the Clinton administration indicted Osama bin Laden. The indictment, unsealed a few months later, prominently cited al Qaeda's agreement to collaborate with Iraq on weapons of mass destruction. The Clinton Justice Department had been concerned about negative public reaction to its potentially capturing bin Laden without "a vehicle for extradition," official paperwork charging him with a crime. It was "not an afterthought" to include the al Qaeda-Iraq connection in the indictment, says an official familiar with the deliberations. "It couldn't have gotten into the indictment unless someone was willing to testify to it under oath." The Clinton administration's indictment read unequivocally:

"Al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq."

Hayes also shows that Sadaam permitted al Quaeda to establish training camps in Iraq to support their terrorist mission.

No, WDYC the reason you think Olby should go unchallenged is not because ideas contrary to his are "lunatic" It's because you don't want your boy to be exposed.

Hawkeye guy, I haven't followed the news for awhile so I'm not to up speed on this terrorist designation of this one entity of the Iranian military. I enjoyed your post and you made some very good points.

I also don't know what this designation triggers here and/or in our allies governments other than generally it allows some financial actions against them.

Hawkeye guy, or anyone else, do you know what this designation means in practical terms?

Grammie

Hello, Grammie!

You seem to have cleared the board with your great question. Hope you are doing well. A lot of chatter on OW lately. I look forward to reading your contributions.

Sharm

Sharm, I noticed that myself.

I have been skimming the comments every few days and the tone and language was getting out of hand so I took a break.

I enjoy your posts and the links you provide are always worthwhile pursuing.

Grammie

Janet, Sharon and Cecelia, I personally apologise to all of you, if you are referring to me. I have made a couple of posts that are out of character. mike and clucker/philby/rudy were claiming I "hated" our troops, unjustly. They both, also, posted other lies about me, too. Like I said, there is no shame to their game. I figure, if that's the best they can do, I'll consider it a victory and move on. Again, I apologise if I offended you guys in any way. Glad you are back, too.

Janet, Sharon and Cecelia, I personally apologise to all of you, if you are referring to me. I have made a couple of posts that are out of character. mike and clucker/philby/rudy were claiming I "hated" our troops, unjustly. They both, also, posted other lies about me, too. Like I said, there is no shame to their game. I figure, if that's the best they can do, I'll consider it a victory and move on. Again, I apologise if I offended you guys in any way. Glad you are back, too.

Posted by: royalking at August 16, 2007 9:51 PM

No need to apologize to me, RK. You are, somehow, the touchstone for Mike's and Clucker's estimation of their own intellect and manhood. Have you ever considered that you're too good for them?

Your character is written in stone from the hundreds of posts you write over the course of months and years.

Out of character !

That's a good one, dipshit !

Posted by: Why Do you care at August 16, 2007 10:19 PM

I will have to agree with this. My character is written in stone, as yours is. Given the choice, I'd pick mine. Nite, why/patsy/anon and a few others.

If anyone has ever given Cecilia any credit at all for anything, here is your evidence to show you how you were mistaken.

Posted by: at August 18, 2007 3:09 PM

Thanks, coward. Now, move along to huffpo and post some more hatred.

Take a look at 1:51, Einstein.

Cut Cecelia some slack. She is swooning over John "Hoot" Gibson (on another site). Women and men in love do idiotic things.
I will admit anyone so admiring Hoot is a great puzzlement to me, but I have a friend, otherwise a normal, stand-up kind of guy who was a chubby chaser all through college. The bigger the better. The kind you get behind in Wal-Mart wearing thin terry cloth shorts, stained novelty t-shirts and flip flops. The kind where it isn't at all clear when their buttocks stop and their calves begin. Who's to say what turns someone on, what makes them do such crazy things when they are turned on? My friend, by the way, married a size 6 Junior League sort. Ceceilia may regain her senses, too.

Posted by: Clucker at August 18, 2007 3:31 PM

Oh goodness, Capon, in a post that was obstinsively a reply to Cee, on a real topic, you spent half of it lecturing RK. As if the majority of the blog isn't composed of such posts from you already.

Now, we both know you've chosen the person who you deem to be the most worthless and unchallenging poster on the site as a vehicle to exhibit yourself.

Putting aside the facts that this speaks volumes about you and that you work much harder than he bothers to work, shouldn't you at least send the guy some sort of check?

Ceceilia:

Many thanks.

If I had change for a dime, I'd give you your due.

Yours truly,
Clucker

Posted by: Clucker at August 18, 2007 4:56 PM

Not to worry, having calculated your due I didn't bother to charge.

RK, I took no offense from your comments in this thread or any other thread.

Cecelia is right on that the juvenile fifth grade boys bathroom bullies here are saying a lot more about themselves than they are about you.

I only take one exception with her statement. She forgot to include Patsy.

Oh, Patsy, I did take note of your semi (?) compliment the other day to The Angels. It was gratifying to realize our shining worth is recognized. :)

I was so pleased I had a double Absolut on the rocks to celebrate.

Grammie

cluckhead,

why do you editorialize everything? Nobody cares.

AJWAH, the word that comes to my mind is exhibitionist .

Monsieur Capon seems to want to exhibit his urbane, sophisticated intellectualism with pretentious ponderous editorials for the awe and amazement of us common folk.

And that is my pretentious ponderous opinion. :)

Grammie

I would probably have whipped his ass everyday.

Posted by: Clucker at August 18, 2007 7:41 PM

Gotta love the views of these far left hypocrites. They (the liberals) are passing laws in almost every state against whipping kids (it's no wonder they are the disrespectful jerks they are, for the most part) and the good little liberal "do gooder" says she would be whipping my ass every day. Just our daily dose of liberal hypocrisy. Thanks, rudy!

cockclucker,

For all your typing, all your comebacks can be broken down into "nah uh, i am not. you are."

p.s. god you are so sexy when you ignore me.

I think the better view is that I refuse to suffer fools well. And, Pea Brain is a fool.

Posted by: Clucker at August 18, 2007 7:41 PM

I think the more accurate view is that you suffer him very well indeed and are thrilled to have him as a vehicle for self-display.

am so very sorry I cannot join you in worshipping at the altar of Bush the Inept, Mrs. Hawkins. I realize than when someone agrees with him and you 100% of the time, he or she is wise and infallible. As for me, I enjoy a discussion with people who share different views, who challenge my ideas and me. I am surprised and disappointed this so threatens you. Perhaps, you should talk to Cecelia about this problem. She knows everything.

Posted by: Clucker at August 18, 2007 9:01 PM

No, I'm afraid there are plenty of anti-Bush folks here to whom Grammie has never uttered these words.

She just thinks you're an affected little nancy-boy who likes to put on airs.

Philby/rudy/clucker, I've already found most of your "pro chavez" posts, I want you to deny you made them, before I repost them, please.

Why don't YOU defend the many, many, many biased and slanted reports by one Keith Olbermann, the subject of OLBERMANNWATCH? Oh, I forgot. You Olbyloons never, ever let a thread on Olbermann NOT turn into a Bush-bashing opportunity.

See, here's the basic problem. Clucker and his ilk think there is absolutely nothing in the world wrong with supporting communist dicatators like Chavez and Castro. Hell, half of the insane and inane posters on the leftist websites continue to deny that Chavez IS a dicatator, such is their disconnect with reality.

Objection! Who is this website about? Keith Olbermann. What is the name of this website? Olbermannwatch. There are many websites where you could go to bash Bush and be with your fellow Olbyloons but nope, you insist on turning every conversation about Keith Olbermann and his documented biases into a Bush-bashing party.Did it ever occur to you that your insistence on posting about George Bush on a site named Olbermannwatch would be akin to going to a sports website, say one devoted to baseball or basketball, and posting instead about Opera or Ballet?

So you come to "speak the truth" huh? Yet it doesn't concern you in the least that the newsman you worship has one lie after another on a program that is clearly labeled as a "news" program.

And in so far as taking anyone seriously goes, you're crazier than I thought you people were if you think that for one single second you're going to "convert" a clear thinker into a liberal loon with the cut and paste articles you post here at this website. Yet you persist in your foolishness because you think you're on some sort of mission from God to do so.

It's a website dedicated to exposing the lies and biases of Keith Olbermann, lies and biases that you people can't admit exist and carefully avoid, therefore, you constantly change the topic at every single opportunity you get, then act outraged when someone wants to talk about Keith Olbermann at a website named Olbermannwatch. Pathetic indeed.

Yes, everyone, even the insufferable Cecelia and the unfortunate Mrs. Hawkins knew you had squat. You are, indeed, worthless, Pea Brain.

Posted by: Clucker at August 19, 2007 10:10 AM

They said this, where?

As soon as you deny making them, I will post them right under your denial. Or, you can admit to being pro chavez and I will let it go. Kinda like a plea bargain.

"Who's more important? The POTUS or KO.

I rest my case.
Posted by: Defend This at August 19, 2007 10:55 AM"

Who's more important to the Three Stooges? The POTUS or RK.

Based on their behavior RK holds an exalted position in their minds.

Grammie

Reliable sources do not include Daily Kos, Huffington Post, Media Matters, or Talking Points Memo.

Furthermore, this website is not called BushWatch, it's called Olbermannwatch.

I suggest you go over to a sports website and post your off-topic rants or better yet go to a political website and post about baseball. See how warmly your rants are received there. I'm guessing they wouldn't be quite so charitable as Bob Cox here is of you lunatics. But unlike your beloved radical leftist websites which censor people for having opposing views which do not fit into the cookie cutter mentality of your ilk, he doesn't ban people for opposing views.

And hey, you people are nothing if not reliable. It's almost amusing to see how long it takes you to hijack a thread to talk about your pet peeves instead of staying on topic.

Now don't you have to go roam the internet to find another article to post here?

Now don't you have to go roam the internet to find another article to post here?

Posted by: Brandon at August 19, 2007 3:14 PM

Scouring, is the term that fits patsy/why/defend/whoknowshowmayothers the best. Anyone that has ever had livestock knows what the "scours" are. Patsy definitely has the scours.

The only problem I have with your scours is when you post mile long screeds of nothing. Do you think anyone reads those? I do my fair share of cut and pasting of articles, too. If you have noticed, I only post a couple paragraphs of the story with the main points of interest.

A little example.

The Nation of Islam school in San Francisco's Hunters Point, now at the center of a controversy over whether asbestos-laden dust from a neighboring development is sickening residents, has quite a history - not to mention a curious lease arrangement with the city.

It sits on city land, and the school was supposed to pay rent - but in the five years since it opened, it hasn't payed a dime. $2000 a month times 5 years is $120,000!

It's a classic example of how the patronage politics that defined the Willie Brown era at San Francisco City Hall still rattle around to this day.

Whatever you say, "defend this." LOL!

Jeff: "Do you think anyone reads these".

Aha Jeff!....Speaking for 'anyone' again, are we?

funny thing Jeff, just last night you attacked me for not cutting and pasting 'proof' of an opinion I posted, ...while simultaneously blasting an anonymous poster you called "Patsy" for cutting and pasting 'proof'.....all in the same post.

Now after attacking me countless times for alledgedly speaking for others...what do you go and do? You pretend to speak for others!.......LOL!

patsy doesn't cut and paste "proof" mikey. There is a big difference between "proof" and mile long global warming or Iraqi death screeds. I wouldn't expect you to understand this, though. Your desperation is showing, again.

I know Jeff....'Proof' is never 'proof' unless YOU say it's 'proof'....and of course, that only happens when YOU post 'proof'.

Keep on fooling yourself fool...nothing about YOU invokes desperation from me...only pity.