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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    August 23, 2007
    TVN: Journalism at its Finest: Part XX

    You know, there for awhile we had hope for TVNewser after the announced departure of one Brian Setzer to the New York Times. We here at Olbermannwatch had long documented how that particular website has a long, undistinguished history of playing fast and loose with the facts, manipulating ratings data and otherwise misrepresenting the truth. Yesterday proved that the more things change, the more they remain the same, unless you are talking about articles posted at TVNewser which in case, one in particular was edited not once, not twice, but three times.

    Said article was written by one Gail Shister, of the Philadelphia Inquirer. Now Ms. Shister and Mr. Olbermann have a certain, how shall we say, history? Back in March, Shister wrote the typical fawning MSM Olbermann whitewash but we here at Owatch noted that it had some glaring errors. Namely, Shister insisted that Olbermann was an only child. He's not. He has a sister. The Olbyloons were first to note the error. And they took it upon themselves to notify Shister of her error. The following exchange occured between said Olbyloon and Shister:

    How odd. I wrote to Ms. Shister, and just now got back a response: "Dear Ms. Shister: Just wanted to let you know how much I appreciated the article about Keith Olbermann and COUNTDOWN in Sunday's Inquirer. I'm sure the faithful have already written in droves to let you know that he does in fact have a younger sister. Otherwise I thought it was a great piece. Thanks again!

    Gail Shister's Reply?

    "Hi: A younger sister? He told me to my face that he's an only child. Please xplain... Best gs "

    Now Olbermann has mentioned existence of said sister in the Big Show book he co-authored with Dan Patrick, on Countdown, in an interview on C-Span, and on the now defunct ESPN Radio Show numerous times. But Shister insisted that Olbermann had told her he was an only child. Now naturally the Olbyloons were waiting, ready, and able to provide excuses as to why Olbermann lied straight-faced to Shister. And Shister was forced to issue a retraction a few days later. Recently it was announced that Shister had lost her plum assignment as TV/Radio writer for the Philadelphia Inquirer and had been busted down to mere reporter. Shister has since been moonlighting on the side, contributing articles to TVNewser. And yesterday, she published an interview with Olbermann. Now you'd think that history would have taught Shister to check and recheck anything Olbermann told her right? Wrong.

    Amazingly, the article underwent THREE rewrites after it was first posted at TVN. The first version, posted at 4:05 p.m. contained the following passages:

    Olbermann, on vacation this week while he moves to a new apartment, has no plans to tone down anything in Sunday's Countdown, he says. Back to the moving thing. Despite Countdown's skyrocketing numbers and a daily gig on ESPN Radio, Olbermann says he left his current apartment because it was too expensive to buy when the building went condo. "I'm not a hedge fund trader or a meth dealer. I can't possibly afford to buy around here."

    The article was edited yet again, as noted by our own Johnny Dollar.

    "Olbermann says he left his Central Park South apartment because it was too expensive to buy when the building went condo."
    That bit was deleted and altered sometime between 4:30 and 5:00. The FINAL (?) version of the TVNewer piece was altered yet again to remove all mention of the move and of his fancy new East Side apartment.
    Olbermann, on vacation this week, has no plans to tone down anything in Sunday's Countdown, he says.
    By the time the final version (?) of this much-altered TVNewer piece appeared, it's context had been stripped completely away, leaving some astute readers quite puzzled at competing tv news website, Inside Cable News, much confused. Noted one poster:
    There was a lot of news a few months ago when he PURCHASED a $4Million apartment on the Upper East Side of NYC, in a Trump building no less. So what's this business about "renting" and "can't afford to buy"?
    In essence, the triple-editing at TVNewser left an article which didn't make much sense, and left the distinct impression that poor Olby was just barely getting by these days. Astute Olbermannwatch readers however know the real score on Olbermann's new digs at the Trump Palace, at 200 East 69th Street. His $4.2 million dollar, 40th floor apartment has been described as having a 31 and a half-foot-long living room, master bedroom and den, each with balconies, 360 degree views, plus a chef's kitchen, twin walk-in closets and two and a half marble bathrooms. Yeah, that poor Keith, couldn't afford to buy a decent apartment on the Upper West Side so he was forced to move to the "poor" side of the UES and live in what has been called one of Donald Trump's finest buildings. Poor thing. Let's take up a collection for him shall we? I bet the Olbyloons have already broken into their piggy banks to help out poor Mr. Olbermann.

    But back to the fact-checking on the mysteriously triple-edited article. Let's ignore the whole "soaring ratings" bit, we all know that's a lie. Let's go back to Olbermann's rented apartment at 220 Central Park South which he insisted had gone condo and he couldn't "afford to buy there". The apartment didn't go condo. It's tenants were evicted, and the plans include demolishing the building and redeveloping the site! according to the NY Times.

    What? KEITH OLBERMANN LIE????? Imagine that dear Olbermannwatch readers! But why one wonders, was all mention of Olbermann's move and the fancy new UES digs removed from the posting at TVNewser? We all know that TVNewser has a new "face" but is Keith Olbermann moonlighting in his spare time as an editor over at TVN?


    Posted by Brandon | Permalink | Comments (70) | | View blog reactions

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    Thanks Brandon (and J$) these posts must be so easy to write with the way Olbermann is fast & loose with the facts. Thanks again for documenting the MSM bullshit.

    Below is another "fawning" article in which they manage a couple of paragraphs about Bill O. I think the percentage between 1 & 2 is a lot higher than "20%" ....read on:

    White House critic turns guns on NFL
    WILLIAM HOUSTON, Globe and Mail

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070822.truth23/BNStory/Sports/columnists

    Countdown on MSNBC ranks second in audiences to Bill O'Reilly's show on Fox News, The O'Reilly Factor, but is 20-per-cent ahead of CNN in its 8 p.m. (EDT) one-hour slot

    Movin' up like that Jefferson guy
    That deluxe apartment in the sky
    Not George and Louise
    Mister "cash in deep freeze"
    Like Olby, just caught in a lie

    "Katy"

    Very funny. I kept thinking of the Jeffersons as well as I was reading all about Keith in his NYC high rises!

    Where's Weezy?

    so wait, did TVNEWSER lie about the eviction of tenants, or did olbermann lie to tvnewser?

    Olbermann lied to TVNewser when he claimed the building went condo. It didn't. It's being torn down and redeveloped. What TVNewser did do was edit the article 3x, making it more and more unclear what Olbermann was talking about (moving-removed, new UES apartment-removed), etc. So it's a combo of TVNewser editing (as Olbermann's request????) and of Olbermann lying. Again.

    Maybe he's stashing cash offshore and priming the pump for a pre-nup. Plea poor mouth now before he gets married and when the relationship goes tits up in a few years claim - "see, I told you I wasn't rich." Howard Stern had a author on whose book covers how to save your ass from women.

    Matt Leinart is the coverboy for this. He's paying $15,000 per month in child support to his ex-girlfriend.

    Matt Leinart is the coverboy for this. He's paying $15,000 per month in child support to his ex-girlfriend.
    Posted by: F*ckFace at August 23, 2007 1:01 PM

    A $2 rubber would have been the best $2 Matty every spent. HA!

    Did anyone catch CNN numbers for Amanpour? I wonder how she would do at 8 against Olby?

    CNN AMANPOUR [10PM] 2,195,000
    FOXNEWS O'REILLY 2,170,000
    CNN AMANPOUR [9PM] 1,965,000
    FNC SHEP SMITH 1,419,000
    FNC HANNITY/COLMES 1,311,000
    FNC BRIT HUME 1,180,000
    CNN DOBBS 868,000

    On April 13, 2004 Bush was asked about the Vietnam analogy at a press conference. He responded:

    "The analogy is false...That analogy sends the wrong message to our troops and to the enemy."

    But now he calims Iraq IS Vietnam - but only the right-wing alternate-history Vietnam that your revisionist think-tanks have spun. You mind-slaves once again ignore your fetish/president's previous, self-contradictory statements and lap up his newly minted smoke-sceens as quickly as they spew forth from his pie-hole. You are shameful excuses for Americans.

    "The report says that Iraqi Security Forces, working alongside the United States, have performed 'adequately.' However, it says they haven't shown enough improvement to conduct operations without U.S. and coalition forces and are still reliant on others for key support.

    "The findings could provide support for the Bush administration's argument that coalition forces need to stay in Iraq in order to avoid letting security lapse, should they withdraw from certain areas."


    ###
    My thoughts exactly.

    How about scrutinizing that other "Oracle of Olbermann," Either Relavent or True?

    Sir Loin of Milquetoast....

    2004, general public support of Iraqi freedom was still robust and unaffected by the radical fringe.....

    2007, the ruling class of the American left are calling for immediate withdrawl and public support has eroded.

    As I said in 11/06, the left's behavior and the consequences of what they now demand as entrusted leaders in the federal government are EXACTLY like they were in 1972.....

    The triumph of totalitarianism.....

    The triumpn of terrorism......

    The triumph of an evil ideology......

    The abandonment of a people in need of security and protection from petty thugs.....

    If the left's ruling class remained powerless after 11/06, this speech would not be necessary. But the call for surrender and withdrawl has changed the political environment. Bush is continuing to support the grand idea of democracy and freedom in Iraq. The left is continuing their politicial manipulation and opportunism at the expense of the country's national security, the future of a democratic Iraq and the lives of millions.

    Cee,

    Just wanted your input. Democratizing the Middle East is such an extreme shift in ideology. It seemed to me that based upon the turnout for elections, that a large number were ready for it. Yet, the expectations of the Iraqis concerning the ability of our troops to have the whole country under control and ready to hand back over in quick order was based on some kind of idealistic view of the Coalition forces. They don't have superpowers. A people brutalized for so long seemed almost paralyzed in taking charge of their fate. Blame was cast. But the troops there (almost all) demonstrated time and again the values that make us who we are, that spirit that won't be contained. That it is taking until recently for the Iraqis to step up to a degree that is being picked up by MSM, is not surprising. Why are we so impatient? I still struggle with the idea of the war (I don't buy into conspiracy theories or that Bush is Satan) How difficult it would be to remain hopeful when this kind of thing happens: Heartache Video: 5 Year Old Set on Fire in Iraq.
    http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/189136.php
    To say that such a thing would never have occurred under Saddam would be untrue. What happens now is that the story is out and help is already being organized. That is where my hope lies, in the goodness and bravery exhibited by so many. Have to run.

    How about scrutinizing that other "Oracle of Olbermann," Either Relavent or True?
    Posted by: supersonic at August 23, 2007 2:30 PM

    Like shooting ducks in a barrel. Too easy. Leave the lesbians alone...

    I wondered how long it would take for the Olbyloons to sweep in and try the change the subject away from yet another incident where their beloved Olbermann had been caught in yet another lie. I should have placed bets on it.

    Now, to answer the question of "Supersonic" who suggested I turn my focus on "Either Relevant or True":

    Sonic--I have blogged about them from time to time here on Olbermannwatch. They tend to be a somewhat more clear-thinking group than the other two groups of great Olbermann-insanity, the Ko.org crew and the KOEB crew at Democratic Underground, although that's not saying very much. However, I'd like to point out that the poster there at EROT known as "Orinenglish" is also known as "BerryBush" on DU, "Kathy" at Ko.org, "Dorrie" on many websites, "Berberry" on Television Without Pity, Psych101" at QuickTopic, and "Scoop" at "Keith Olbermann is Evil".

    I wouldn't put it past this super-obsessed Olbyloonfanatic supreme to bribe a Nielsen family so she could boost Keith's sagging ratings. She's the same Olbylunatic I profiled a few days ago who watches each and every show 3 times in a row, and then "archives" them for her "collection". Despite evidence of her poverty (forced to ride bus, no money to buy new glasses, lives in an area she refers to as being a crackslum, etc), she scrapes together what meager funds available to her to cough up money for an Ipod to listen to the podcasts of the old ESPN Radio show and buy another DVR/VCR digital recorder so she doesn't miss a single second of Olbermann. And while his truly impoverished fans are barely scraping by and spending every available cent just to see/hear him, what's Olby doing? Bitching about how poor he is as he prepares to move into a $4 Million apartment at Trump Palace.

    Did anyone catch CNN numbers for Amanpour? I wonder how she would do at 8 against Olby?
    Posted by: ? at August 23, 2007 1:29 PM

    She would clobber 'em. But I doubt CNN has the budget to pull off these "specials" every night...although her numbers beat out Olby's highest numbers (for the Dem debate) as well. BTW, these CNN specials are pretty interesting programs. All three have relevance in my life verses the MS-NBC docs of preditors & prisioners.

    I miss "Kathy" (Bates) at the KO.org forum. She was the best, most obsessed & nuttiest of all the loons (Marie is a close second over there---but nothing compared to "Kathy"). I think they finally kicked her out. (She complained/trashed once too often about Keith's "real" girlfriend Katy Tur).

    I agree Brandon, ERT is somewhat better and they seem to keep "kathy/orinenglish" in check---by letting others respond to her nuttiness.

    Sharon, To your point....notice how no one is arguing against Bush regarding the long road to democracy in post-WWII Japan, Germany and Korea.....These were successes of American imperialism and to argue against these endeavors is futile. But there were not short, death-free adventures....we are still in South Korea and spend millions there.

    Vietnam was a failure, democracy abandoned and the child of failure is always an orphan.

    My opinion has always been that no child should be an orphan. If it takes 20 years, freedom will take root because we are superior militarily AND ideologically. Iraq deserves more than just 4 years after Saddam to establish a working democracy. They will be a valuable ally to The United States just next door to the radical theocracy of Iran who has voiced militaristic ambitions against The United States and Israel. Strategically and morally it is a no brainer....Iraq as a strong democratic ally is the nightmare to any radical islamist and this should be very clear to the left in our country. Lastly, morally, I agree with Bob Kerrey that it is our responsibility to help the Iraqi people obtain self-governance.

    This is also why Joe Lieberman is such a good man. He has risen above party to regard the moral call against radical islam. The virulent reaction of "progressives" (the radical left) towards him, even with anti-semitic overtones, is also VERY telling!

    FFM- Another troop hating idiot!
    Idiot- to think leaving would make Iraq a better place.

    "The price we, the Vietnamese people on both sides, paid during the war was due to the fact that the Americans went into Vietnam in the first place," Ninh said.

    Fuck off Ninh- the American paid a stiff price too. You'd be part of the North without us twit!

    To the lovely named poster at 4:00PM:

    Were those that you quoted some of John Kerry's lucky ducks who got to spend some time at the communist's re-education camps?

    The dead also have no way of telling us whether they believed The Viet-Cong were really on the side of the angels against the devil, USA.....

    A million dead after we left in 1975, a million victims of demicide.....

    Do you even know what demicide is?

    The communist nation of Vietnam is guilty of killing their own people based on political affiliation, ideology or religious belief.

    The South Vietnamese were the victims of these terrorist thugs and only a whitewash from your ideologically blind leftist elite has been needed to erase their memory from the face of the earth.

    Shame on those who do not hear their voices calling out from their graves in Saigon.....just because it upsets their little fantasy world!

    To the lovely named poster at 4:00PM:

    Posted by: cee at August 23, 2007 4:12 PM

    Why Do You Care to call him that?... :D

    Sarcasm, cec, I tried a little sarcasm

    Wow! Keith would diss his own sister!

    What more do you need to know about the guy?

    Cee, I love it when you post and get A.C.C.S. to start banging his head against the wall and he brings out his cow fixation again.

    On Jerry Doyle yesterday they were talking about a lot of parents are going way overboard with their kids.

    This fall some parents will be even calling their kids at College to make sure they get up in time for class.

    Isn't it great though, A.C.C.S.'s Mom won't have to do that. She just has to yell down in the basement from the top of the stairs!

    Not for college, for the shift at White Castle.

    Brandon, thanks for addressing my post.

    I can't believe that Olbermann is complaining about not being able to stay in his apartment and having to move to Trump Plaza. Unbelievable.

    "Just wanted your input. Democratizing the Middle East is such an extreme shift in ideology. It seemed to me that based upon the turnout for elections, that a large number were ready for it. Yet, the expectations of the Iraqis concerning the ability of our troops to have the whole country under control and ready to hand back over in quick order was based on some kind of idealistic view of the Coalition forces. They don't have superpowers. "


    Sharon, we are a "Superpower"! We spend more on our miliary than ALL OTHER COUNTRIES ON EARTH COMBINED! The toppling of Saddam - as ill-advised and illegal as it may have been - was performed rapidly and with precision. Bush throwing up his hands in the aftermath and pleading "hard work" as his excuse for the ongoing chaos is dispicably disingenuous and self-serving.

    Low troop-levels at the outset, the intentional dismantlement of the Iraqi physical, civil, and bureaucratic infrastrutures, and the intentional ethnicity-baiting that the occupaton made its business are the reasons that stability has not broken out in that country; just as the illegal, "secret" bombings of Cambodia and Laos are to blame for the killing fields of the mid-late '70's.

    The lesson no one on the right seems capable of learning is that when a superpower intentionally destabilizes a region against all of that region's demographic desires and opinion, then all the destruction that follows is the fault of that superpower.

    I hope Keith blames Bush for the Midwest floods.
    He blames Bush for everything.

    The "Domino theory" was hogwash; Saddam's WMD were hogwash; "global Islamofascism" is hogwash.

    We killed 3 million in Vietnam for lies and set the stage for whatever reprisals that followed our retreat; Bush has brought about the deaths of a million Iraqis and the refugee-status of at least 2 million more; those who may die in the future are also on his head.

    Maliki is on the right track when he says his government can find "other friends". I am sure that he, as a Shia, means specifically Iran; and the only responsible course left to America would be to ensure that Syria is also brought into the matter. We need to pay these countries to settle their ethnic proxies in Iraq; and we need to send Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc. to the Hague to face war-crimes charges.

    "The lesson no one on the right seems capable of learning is that when a superpower intentionally destabilizes a region against all of that region's demographic desires and opinion, then all the destruction that follows is the fault of that superpower."


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    Sharon, did you see any solutions to the problem in Loin's post? I did not.

    All I saw again was the left talking points of incompetence/imperialist conspiracy....no identification of the vast workings of a very competent enemy with an ideology....the enemy represented by radical islamists....who, by the way, are using the same tactics as their totalitarian cousins, The Viet-Cong. Radical islamists supported by Iran, Syria, and the lovely Al Qaeda.

    No, according to the left they do not exist. They do not use guerilla tactics, terrorist tactics, chop people's heads off and violate all of the other Geneva conventions! Only the bad ol' USA is at fault for the conflict.

    It seems hopeless, Sharon.....except for the fact that there are actual adults running the executive branch and security institutions of our government. For now.

    If the left's ruling class remained powerless after 11/06, this speech would not be necessary. But the call for surrender and withdrawl has changed the political environment. Bush is continuing to support the grand idea of democracy and freedom in Iraq. The left is continuing their politicial manipulation and opportunism at the expense of the country's national security, the future of a democratic Iraq and the lives of millions.

    Posted by: cee at August 23, 2007 2:33 PM


    So the statement pasted below is "leftist" rhetoric, cee?

    "In the end, we need to recognize that our presence may have released Iraqis from the grip of a tyrant, but that it has also robbed them of their self-respect. They will soon realize that the best way to regain dignity is to call us what we are - an army of occupation - and force our withdrawal.

    Until that happens, it would be prudent for us to increasingly let Iraqis take center stage in all matters, to come up with a nuanced policy in which we assist them from the margins but let them resolve their differences as they see fit. This suggestion is not meant to be defeatist, but rather to highlight our pursuit of incompatible policies to absurd ends without recognizing the incongruities.

    We need not talk about our morale. As committed soldiers, we will see this mission through."


    http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/081907A.shtml

    Nice, Sir Loin of Milquetoast. Syria who supports Hezbollah terrorists and still seeks the destruction of Israel.

    Next, you'll say that Iran would make a good, honest partner in this as well.....A country that just gave 20 lashes to a man for drinking and having sex.

    Loin, I would think a progressive like you who supports freedom of lifestyle would shun such horrible government intrusion!

    You are really showing your stripes again, Loin.

    "Sharon, did you see any solutions to the problem in Loin's post? I did not."

    That's because you are a studiously obtuse little pissant, cee. My proposed solution was there: leave Iraq having begged Iran, Syria, Turkey, Afhanistan...to take a lead in providing security and settling the ethnic hornet's nest that our war-mongering leaders have cheerfully stirred-up.

    ...and accountibility is also a factor. Bush/Cheney need to face the music in regard to their crime of onternational aggression. That would show some degree of good faith on our part to the rest of the world.

    Actually, Cee, it was 80 lashes, 40 administered by two individuals. I'll catch up later...

    No it does not sound like what you and the leftist ruling elite are saying, Loin. Your own quote from the editorial even leaves the reader with the impression that the authors do not support precipitous withdraw from Iraq without regard to their progress towards stability.

    In fact, one may interpret the editorial that more security would help the situation in Iraq....exactly what the US troops are trying to accomplish while the US left has been demanding their withdrawl since 2005.

    Loin, I would think a progressive like you who supports freedom of lifestyle would shun such horrible government intrusion!

    You are really showing your stripes again, Loin.

    Posted by: cee at August 23, 2007 5:24 PM


    Listen, cee, Your side has moved the goal-posts in regard to the morality and objectives of this fiasco/crime so many times that it is petulent and disingenuous for you to qubibble about such matters at this point. No "good" options are left. Its either work with the likes of Iran and Syria, or leave our foreign policy in the hands of our witless perpetrators of pepetrators of international aggression, torture, defacto genocide, and war-profiteering.

    - we gratefully accepted the help of Iran in regard to fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan, why not in Iraq?

    Yeah....adults that have failed with every aspect of this war.
    Who the hell are you trying to kid ?

    Posted by: Why Do you care at August 23, 2007 5:37 PM


    Adults? Why can't cee recognize that "adults" take responsibility for their crimes and mistakes? Adults put themselves in danger before thrusting the children of others into a meatgrinder. Adults ante-up when they percieve a crucial job needs to be done.

    cee is a baby who posts while perched on a pant-load of his own feces - just the way his fetish/president gives a press conference.

    SLOB is a baby who posts while French kissing Mike Moore's ass hole without so much as getting a reach around - just the way his fetish/Olbyfuck gives a speshul kumment.

    Posted by: Laura Bush at August 23, 2007 6:03 PM


    Laura entertains a motherly protectiveness toward baby cee-section. Laura; I am bothered that YOU"RE and American.

    >Did anyone catch CNN numbers for Amanpour? I wonder how she would do at 8 against Olby?

    CNN AMANPOUR [10PM] 2,195,000
    FOXNEWS O'REILLY 2,170,000
    CNN AMANPOUR [9PM] 1,965,000
    FNC SHEP SMITH 1,419,000
    FNC HANNITY/COLMES 1,311,000
    FNC BRIT HUME 1,180,000
    CNN DOBBS 868,000

    Posted by: ? at August 23, 2007 1:29 PM


    Is "AMANPOUR" the expose on religious nuts of all stripes "God's Warriors" ?

    Great work.

    Just imagine what it must be like to be the poster who calls himself "Laura Bush."

    To be filled with such bitter hatred.

    To spew such unrighteous venom.

    To be controlled by such narrow-mindedness.

    To be so willing to expose their own ignorant lunatic ravings.

    Hey Laura-

    Playing 'Tough and Pissed' may have worked in High School to keep you from getting your ass kicked from all the guys that ACTUALLY WERE tougher than you...

    But here, it just plays as being bitter, ignorant, and desperate.

    But then again, if the high heels fit...

    To the lovely named poster at 4:00PM:
    Posted by: cee at August 23, 2007 4:12 PM

    Why Do You Care to call him that?... :D
    Posted by: Cecelia at August 23, 2007 4:20 PM

    Sarcasm, cec, I tried a little sarcasm
    Posted by: cee at August 23, 2007 4:23 PM

    cee didn't get your dumb joke cecelia.

    You two should take your act on the road.

    You can make the dumb jokes and cee can just stand there and not get them.

    You should be real popular in the South.

    Warner: Bush Should Bring Troops Home
    By ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press Writer
    37 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON - Sen. John Warner, a prominent Republican on military affairs, urged President Bush on Thursday to start bringing some troops home from Iraq by Christmas.

    Such a move would send a powerful warning to the Baghdad government that time is running out, said Warner, R-Va.


    cee often wonders aloud what a neocon is...

    Perhaps this will help-

    Republicans, like Democrats, want to bring the troops home.

    Clear now, phallucee?


    "No it does not sound like what you and the leftist ruling elite are saying, Loin. Your own quote from the editorial even leaves the reader with the impression that the authors do not support precipitous withdraw from Iraq without regard to their progress towards stability."

    Then you didn't read it. Surprise, surprise.

    These soldiers say clearly that our presence is counter-productive to the stated aims of regional stability. They say, as I have been saying, that Iraqis won't "stand up" until our hooks are out of their country. I think you are (probably intentionally) misinterpreting in this regard their statements that they will fulfill their duties as soldiers no matter what those are (in fact, one of them suffered a headwound shortly after the piece was written), and that disingenuous pissants like you should not make political hay out of their "feelings" regarding our political debate. They are not as delicate you are.

    >Report: Iraqi Leaders Unable to Govern

    I guess we really are making Iraq a lot more like the United States.

    Let incompetence, er, I mean freedom ring!

    Poor Keith. Forced to live in Trump Palace in a four million apartment. My heart bleeds for him. But you know who my heart bleeds more for? Knowing how many homes that money could have built for the refugees of New Orleans and Hurricane Katrina. Or the good it could have done for those poor people in Iraq. Keith's really good at telling us what the government should do but not so good at leading by example. And this is why Keith and all those who follow him are hypocrites.

    So is Keith an only child or not? Does anybody know for sure?

    "So is Keith an only child or not? Does anybody know for sure?"

    Why would anyone care?

    "So is Keith an only child or not? Does anybody know for sure?"

    Why would anyone care?

    Posted by: Mike at August 23, 2007 8:16 PM


    No kidding, Mike. Personally, I am far more interested in the recent revelations that Karl Rove's gay father, Louie, had 30 or so solid gold body piercings - mostly on his genitals.

    http://lippard.blogspot.com/2007/08/karl-roves-adoptive-father-and-genital.html

    It speaks to the issue of his truthfulness Loin and Mike. The Olbermann you insist is a "truthteller" apparently can't even be bothered to tell the truth about the most basic of details including where he lives, buying an apartment, and the number of siblings he has. So how can you believe anything else he says? But the Loons do time and again, despite the proof he's a known liar. It's okay they insist if Olbermann lies but those e-v-i-l Republicans-how dare they tell the truth about something!

    And yes, Olbermann has a younger sister. I'm sure SHE wishes she were an only child though. I would too if I had that (limp) dick for a brother.

    "It speaks to the issue of his truthfulness Loin and Mike. "


    Well, I don't know where I would ever encounter or notice any declarations of Olberman's part regarding such issues, or give a rip.

    Bush's overt lies, on the other hand, are made right into our faces and kill people.

    Get a fucking grip; grow some priorities that mean something.

    "So is Keith an only child or not? Does anybody know for sure?"

    Why would anyone care?

    Posted by: Mike at August 23, 2007 8:16 PM


    The point is HE LIED, get it, spolbyloon?

    and yet, the olbyloons remain no matter how low they claim the site has dropped, they stay. Why? None of the liberal loon sites will have them?

    "and yet, the olbyloons remain no matter how low they claim the site has dropped, they stay. Why?"

    Maybe this is the only place we can routinely find right wingers THIS radical, ...and we like to try to figure out just what's going on in their heads?

    If you're so eager to fight someone why not channel that immense anger and bitter hatred the left have and go over to Iraq and fight over there? I guess it's easier though using the computer in your Mom's basement while claiming a military record you don't have huh?

    "If you're so eager to fight someone why not channel that immense anger and bitter the left have and go over to Iraq and fight over there?

    Are you kidding?....and work directly for Moron in Chief?

    Besides, I'm 55 and have already served in the military (Tahkli, Thailand, 1971, .... Lackland AFB Texas, 1969, .... Ramstein AFB, Germany, 1972, ... Keesler AFB, Miss., 1970, ... Mcclellan AFB, Calif, 1973.
    -----------------------------------------------
    "I guess it's easier though using the computer in your Mom's basement"

    Uh...my mom's house has neither a basement, a computer, or internat access....but mine has both a basement and several computers.
    -----------------------------------------------
    "while claiming a military record you don't have huh?"

    Uhm....see above.

    Nothing is quieter than the whistling sound between the ears of the average Olbermann fan.

    "Poor Keith. Forced to live in Trump Palace in a four million apartment. My heart bleeds for him. But you know who my heart bleeds more for? Knowing how many homes that money could have built for the refugees of New Orleans and Hurricane Katrina."

    For $4 million, Keith could pay for 80 Bill Clinton interviews.

    Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 - Declares that it should be the policy of the United States to seek to remove the Saddam Hussein regime from power in Iraq and to replace it with a democratic government.
    Oct 31, 98:
    Became Public Law No: 105-338.
    Signed by President.

    It was not a call for a military invasion.

    It was a bipartisan call for democratization of Iraq. Bush was not the mastermind.

    RK's, Cee's and Cecelia's military service:

    NADA.

    Probably the only reason we have survived to this point. As a (non-combat) veteran, I salute your (non) service and that of all the Chickenhawks in America. We couldn't have done it with you.

    Probably the only reason we have survived to this point. As a (non-combat) veteran, I salute your (non) service and that of all the Chickenhawks in America. We couldn't have done it with you.

    Posted by: Clucker at August 24, 2007 4:01 AM


    Clucker was the inspiration for the Air Force slogan "Aim High". It was his company's motto when he occupied the top bunk in basic.

    "cee didn't get your dumb joke cecelia.

    "You two should take your act on the road.

    "You can make the dumb jokes and cee can just stand there and not get them.

    "You should be real popular in the South."

    Posted by: Stating the Obvious at August 23, 2007 6:41 PM


    ###
    ?

    I didn't get her joke?

    Another brilliant and insightful insult. How should one respond?

    Well....considering Sir Loin of Milquetoast's conspiracy theory that I (cee) and Cecelia are actually one in the same, I guess the act could involve a ventriloquist's dummy. Those fundy flat-earthers just love simple, vaudevillian humor.

    Ha!


    For $4 million, Keith could pay for 80 Bill Clinton interviews.

    Posted by: merkle923 at August 24, 2007 1:27 AM

    On camera, right before Olbermann interviewed Clinton he handed him a check for his Africa initiative and told him, "Here this will build 10 more schools in Africa". Checkbook journalism. That's Olby's forte, paying for interviews!

    I don't know about laughing all the way to the bank but I do chuckle from time to time when I'm on the way to my bank.

    Real journalists don't pay for interviews and access. Olbermann does. That ought to give you Olbyloonns a clue about the type of guy he really is but I guess not. I don't think you people could beg, borrow, or steal a clue about your hero, Keith T. Olbermann.

    It appears that Bush really does have little or nothing to fear.

    If Mr. Bush had a conscience, that would obviously be his worst enemy going forward. However, there is no evidence that he has such a thing.

    Poor, poor, Clucker.

    A noncombat veteran, yet Clucker still chooses the illogical and weak ChickenHawk argument.

    Like I said in another post, you and I can post certain claims on this blog, Clucker, that no one can verify it is the truth. I try to choose not to pursue arguments that I cannot simply expand on with links that support what I am saying (sometimes I have slipped into unverifiable personal items too). I could state I am a four star general (I may or may not be) and try to imply that gives my arguments greater strength. The fact would not because and it is also a manipulation, an emotional and demogogic ploy used by people with weak arguments....

    like Max Cleland
    like Cindy Sheehan
    like Wes Clark

    like anyone else who has lost site of the fact that there is an enemy our TRUE brave and women (not you Clucker) are fighting....an enemy who's purpose is to impose their warpped ideology on a group of people who have expressed, through free democratic processes, they do not want such a government.

    Just like that, Clucker, I instantly know you are insecure about what you believe because you invoke the ChickenHawk argument. It is a poor argument logically, and it shows you will stop at no low level to try to persuade or "win" your point.

    Even the brilliant Sir Loin of Milquetoast has used the ChickenHawk line....and he has stated he has not "served."

    When people do not accept my argument, I leave it at that...I do not curse (AAP uses this wonderful tactic), I do not say (in so many words) that my opponent is less than human, an animal or that I hate them (the compassionate progressive in opposition to my posts....especially concerning my faith, seem to love to use this Hitleresque tact), and I try to wait for another opportunity to engage in thoughtful discourse once the agitation goes away....

    Try it sometime, Clucker. It would be refreshing.

    More news about how this administration really works. Any of you neocon pieces of shit ever wonder where the missing weapons went?

    "Blowing the whistle on Iraqi contractors nets no thanks
    By DEBORAH HASTINGS
    The Associated Press

    One after another, the men and women who have stepped forward to report corruption in the massive effort to rebuild Iraq have been vilified, fired and demoted.

    Or worse.

    For daring to report illegal arms sales, Navy veteran Donald Vance says he was imprisoned by the American military in a security compound outside Baghdad and subjected to harsh interrogation methods..."

    "...He had thought he was doing a good and noble thing when he started telling the FBI about the guns and the land mines and the rocket launchers — all being sold for cash, no receipts necessary, he said. He told a federal agent that the buyers were Iraqi insurgents, American soldiers, State Department workers, and Iraqi embassy and ministry employees.

    The seller, he alleged, was the Iraqi-owned company he worked for: Shield Group Security Co.

    “It was a Wal-Mart for guns,” he said. “It was all illegal, and everyone knew it.”

    Vance says he blew the whistle, supplying photos and documents and other intelligence to an FBI agent in his hometown of Chicago because he didn’t know whom to trust in Iraq..."

    ...Beth Daley of the Project on Government Oversight, an independent, nonprofit group, said: “The only way we can find out what is going on is for someone to come forward and let us know. But when they do, the weight of the government comes down on them. The message is: ‘Don’t blow the whistle or we’ll make your life hell.’?”..."

    "...Bunnatine Greenhouse was the highest-ranking civilian contracting officer in the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers when she testified before a congressional committee in 2005.

    She said that she found widespread fraud in multibillion-dollar rebuilding contracts awarded to former Halliburton subsidiary KBR. Soon after, Greenhouse was demoted. She now sits in a tiny cubicle in a different department with very little to do and no decision-making authority, at the end of an otherwise exemplary 20-year career.

    In her demotion, her supervisors said she was performing poorly.

    “They just wanted to get rid of me,” she said softly. The Army Corps of Engineers denies her claims."

    http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation/story/247720.html

    So, this story came out through the AP and Forbes and you girls will STILL come up with ways to justify it...

    ...or ignore it, cowards...

    "Because and it is also a manipulation, an emotional and demogogic ploy used by people with weak arguments...."

    Sounds like the single best description of Olbermann and Countdown that I have ever heard!