His numbers sucked last night.

Notice how TVN hasn't posted the numbers.

They are probally in denial. Can't spin those numbers

They are probally in denial. Can't spin those numbers

They are probally in denial. Can't spin those numbers

Sorry for the multiple post.

That Media Matters item on "Bill-O" didn't appear until later on in the day. So Fatass hangs on every word they say, right up until showtime.

"Yes, the power and influence of this site has finally shamed the discredited baseball card collector into acknowledging news that every other news program has been on top of for almost two weeks."

It's a crap story, and Romney's asshole THIEF FUNDRAISER is 10 times WORSE.

And I want some of whatever hallucinogenic drugs your taking to think this rinky-dink site run by morons can influence ANYTHING beyond what time the pizza gets to your house.

Awwww..poor widdle moonbat is upset...and Hillary KNEW about Mr. Szu's criminal background, and you KNOW it....

"Awwww..poor widdle moonbat is upset...and Hillary KNEW about Mr. Szu's criminal background, and you KNOW it...."

Then PROVE it, shit for brains. Prove it or shut your fucking mouth.

And FOR THE RECORD, I don't even LIKE Hillary!

Hey, posted @ 11:17 PM

Not taking drugs.

If the site is so rinky-dink, why are you posting here?

And I want some of whatever hallucinogenic drugs your taking to think this rinky-dink site run by morons can influence ANYTHING beyond what time the pizza gets to your house.

Posted by: at September 12, 2007 11:17 PM

This coming from an acid freak. I think you've had enough.

"Nuremberg" spews from Krazy Keith's mind
But to Saddam's crimes CNN was all blind
"This is Christiane Amanpour"
"All is well at half past four"
When Saddam was their host, no bad news did they find

Aren't you people embarrassed to be spending so much time on someone who, due to his ratings-inferiority to your God Bill-O, isn't worthy of your time?

Don't you have some Congressperson's perverted sexual behavior to go defend?

Criminey, what a bunch of LOSERS!

Aren't you people embarrassed to be spending so much time on someone who, due to his ratings-inferiority to your God Bill-O, isn't worthy of your time?

Don't you have some Congressperson's perverted sexual behavior to go defend?

Criminey, what a bunch of LOSERS!

Posted by: JP at September 13, 2007 12:41 AM

No we would rather talk about all the swindlers and felons that are laundering money for Hillary from China.

Hillary calls General Patreaus liar today and says that she didn't no Hsu was a swindler and a arch criminal. Just like she just looked in the WSJ and turned $10,000 into $100,000 in cattle futures. She can't be the first woman president. Anyone with balls that big couldn't be a woman.

Hmm,---anyone see Senator OBAMA on NBC "Today" ? Hmm wonder how the baseball card boy, and Clinton water carrier, missed the follwing exchange between Obama, and lefty David Gregory, also a Clinton water carrier:

DAVID GREGORY: You heard Secretary Rice say there is progress in Iraq that cannot be ignored. She spoke about when, not if, the United States prevails in Iraq. Do you see it that way?

BARACK OBAMA: I think it's important to understand that after two days of testimony [by Gen. Petraeus and Amb. Crocker], here's the bottom line: that having put an additional 30,000 troops in, and continued the same course we were on, we are now back to the horrendous levels of violence that we were back in June of 2006.

So there's no doubt that we've seen some measured progress in Anbar province, primarily because the Sunni tribal leaders made a political decision there that they would work with the coalition forces. We've seen a very modest reduction of violence in Baghdad, partly because entire neighborhoods have essentially been ethnically cleansed. Those are all positive things, but we are now back at the levels of violence we were 18 months ago.
Hmm---so a democratic Presidential candidate who thinks ethnic cleansing is just peachy, does not make the orange hued moron's WPIW? Hmm wonder why ?Oh yea------Keithy is just a poor excuse for the Kos kids .

Hmm,---anyone see Senator OBAMA on NBC "Today" ? Hmm wonder how the baseball card boy, and Clinton water carrier, missed the follwing exchange between Obama, and lefty David Gregory, also a Clinton water carrier:

DAVID GREGORY: You heard Secretary Rice say there is progress in Iraq that cannot be ignored. She spoke about when, not if, the United States prevails in Iraq. Do you see it that way?

BARACK OBAMA: I think it's important to understand that after two days of testimony [by Gen. Petraeus and Amb. Crocker], here's the bottom line: that having put an additional 30,000 troops in, and continued the same course we were on, we are now back to the horrendous levels of violence that we were back in June of 2006.

So there's no doubt that we've seen some measured progress in Anbar province, primarily because the Sunni tribal leaders made a political decision there that they would work with the coalition forces. We've seen a very modest reduction of violence in Baghdad, partly because entire neighborhoods have essentially been ethnically cleansed. Those are all positive things, but we are now back at the levels of violence we were 18 months ago.
Hmm---so a democratic Presidential candidate who thinks ethnic cleansing is just peachy, does not make the orange hued moron's WPIW? Hmm wonder why ?Oh yea------Keithy is just a poor excuse for the Kos kids .

Hmm,---anyone see Senator OBAMA on NBC "Today" ? Hmm wonder how the baseball card boy, and Clinton water carrier, missed the follwing exchange between Obama, and lefty David Gregory, also a Clinton water carrier:

DAVID GREGORY: You heard Secretary Rice say there is progress in Iraq that cannot be ignored. She spoke about when, not if, the United States prevails in Iraq. Do you see it that way?

BARACK OBAMA: I think it's important to understand that after two days of testimony [by Gen. Petraeus and Amb. Crocker], here's the bottom line: that having put an additional 30,000 troops in, and continued the same course we were on, we are now back to the horrendous levels of violence that we were back in June of 2006.

So there's no doubt that we've seen some measured progress in Anbar province, primarily because the Sunni tribal leaders made a political decision there that they would work with the coalition forces. We've seen a very modest reduction of violence in Baghdad, partly because entire neighborhoods have essentially been ethnically cleansed. Those are all positive things, but we are now back at the levels of violence we were 18 months ago.
Hmm---so a democratic Presidential candidate who thinks ethnic cleansing is just peachy, does not make the orange hued moron's WPIW? Hmm wonder why ?Oh yea------Keithy is just a poor excuse for the Kos kids .

Another Olbermann fan and Brittney Fan.

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/12/video-britneys-biggest-fan/

"No we would rather talk about all the swindlers and felons that are laundering money for Hillary from China."

Only if we get to talk about all the war profiteers and "wingnut welfare" writers who are making money hand over fist trying to put lipstick on the pig.

What republican is trying to put lipstick on Hillary?

Me.

Thanks for the recap, J$. I did not see Keith Olbermann covering the latest NBC poll of the American people....

"And when asked what they think is the most acceptable outcome to the war in Iraq,"

"24% say that American troops should remain in Iraq until it becomes a stable democracy.

"26% say the want them to begin the process of leaving now.

"37% say American troops should leave Iraq within the next year — but still keep some of them in the region."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20748524/

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So the next time we hear the radical left's ruling elite (Reid, Clinton, Obama, and Pelosi) claim the American people want the troops out and home "now," we can remember that it has always been, and still is a lie.

The minority support (

Progress in Iraq will only benefit the republicans politically. Death and defeat will only benefit the democrats politically....

Guess how this is all going to be continued to be viewed?....Just has it has been....the left gleeful when terrorist attacks occur and Iraqi and American deaths are reported, while any progress is dispelled as either lies or "expected" by the same macabre ideologues.

The anti-war protests will continue to be small, radical and peopled by the same '60's retreads that achieved defeat and victory for totalitarianism in 1975.

The rest of the population in America will hold out hope that "right" will prevail over evil.

Thank goodness Bush is smart enough and uses his constitutional power to thwart the leftist defeatists while they continue not to take their stand and defund the war they claim is immoral and already lost.

Have a nice day....and......

Stop the war....bring the troops home now....cut the funds!

And this is my post today, the 1,597th day since the declaration of Mission Accomplished in Iraq.....

I am cee, good night and good luck.

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration's policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

"Lefties: Leave these pathetic drowning rats alone to stew in each other's juices. Get yourselves out in the street and fight this criminal administration in ways that really mean something, and that are noted by more than a handful of keyboard heroes!" Sir Loin of Beef

"American liberals need to face these truths: The demand for self-government was and remains strong in Iraq despite all our mistakes and the violent efforts of al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias to disrupt it." DEMOCRAT Bob Kerrey

"If we end up saying that because these people are committing these acts of terrorism in Iraq or Afghanistan, that we shouldn't have done the removal of Saddam or the removal of the Taliban, then we are making a fundamental mistake about our own future, about security, about the values we should be defending in the world." TONY BLAIR

"You can't bring the troops home if you give George Bush $100 billion to wage this war. You're not supporting them. You're keeping them in harm's way." CINDY SHEEHAN

"There is no doubt ... that Al Qaeda is operating in Iraq. There is no doubt that we've had to take very strong measures against them. And there is no doubt that the Iraqi security forces have got to be strong enough to be able to withstand not just the violence that has been between the Sunni and the Shia population and the Sunni insurgency, but also Al Qaeda itself." GORDON BROWN

"People of America: the world is following your news in regards to your invasion of Iraq, for people have recently come to know that, after several years of tragedies of this war, the vast majority of you want it stopped. Thus, you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven't made a move worth mentioning. On the contrary, they continue to agree to the spending of tens of billions to continue the killing and war there." OSAMA BIN LADEN

"Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda--worse for our society. It's as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was."
KEITH OLBERMANN

And looky here....

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/the_scoreboard_tuesday_sept_11_66874.asp

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O'Reilly beat Olbermann in the demo by 200,000 viewers on 9/11....I guess Olbermann's eloquent 9/11 tribute just didn't make the grade.

And once again O'Reilly gets over 2 million total households while Olbermann languishes with under 1 million....way less than half of Billo. That ratings win really was a start of something big, uh?

"Which is why they have no chance in 08', you blind partisan asshole."

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Where did you get your crystal ball, anon?....You mean to tell me that there is no possibility or hope that the fine people of Iraq and their elected officials can come to a just and beneficial end to their fractious infighting....

No hope at all?
We just accept the inevitable that Iraqis are going to kill eachother over sectarian differences?
We just accept the contention of bin Laden that terrorist might makes right and retreat with our tail between our legs?

I guess so according to the left. Oh well, the 26% dead-enders that enjoy the bad news from Iraq because it makes their political prospects for 2008 better will only enjoy such pleasure for a short time....then when policy meets empty rhetoric and surrender is the decision of the left's ruling elite, proper responsibility for the terrible outcome for peace and freedom will be placed where it belongs.

Again, don't expect help from Bush to enable the terrorists, leftists....you will have to do that all by yourselves!

He, he....again......

Stop the war....bring the troops home now....cut the funds!

And this is my post today, the 1,597th day since the declaration of Mission Accomplished in Iraq.....

I am cee, good night and good luck.

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration's policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

"Lefties: Leave these pathetic drowning rats alone to stew in each other's juices. Get yourselves out in the street and fight this criminal administration in ways that really mean something, and that are noted by more than a handful of keyboard heroes!" Sir Loin of Beef

"American liberals need to face these truths: The demand for self-government was and remains strong in Iraq despite all our mistakes and the violent efforts of al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias to disrupt it." DEMOCRAT Bob Kerrey

"If we end up saying that because these people are committing these acts of terrorism in Iraq or Afghanistan, that we shouldn't have done the removal of Saddam or the removal of the Taliban, then we are making a fundamental mistake about our own future, about security, about the values we should be defending in the world." TONY BLAIR

"You can't bring the troops home if you give George Bush $100 billion to wage this war. You're not supporting them. You're keeping them in harm's way." CINDY SHEEHAN

"There is no doubt ... that Al Qaeda is operating in Iraq. There is no doubt that we've had to take very strong measures against them. And there is no doubt that the Iraqi security forces have got to be strong enough to be able to withstand not just the violence that has been between the Sunni and the Shia population and the Sunni insurgency, but also Al Qaeda itself." GORDON BROWN

"People of America: the world is following your news in regards to your invasion of Iraq, for people have recently come to know that, after several years of tragedies of this war, the vast majority of you want it stopped. Thus, you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven't made a move worth mentioning. On the contrary, they continue to agree to the spending of tens of billions to continue the killing and war there." OSAMA BIN LADEN

"Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda--worse for our society. It's as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was."
KEITH OLBERMANN

I take comfort that if the Dems take the Congress and the White House we won't be leaving battle in Iraq anytime soon.

Now they'll probably press for significant troop cuts, which is fine since it plays back into Rumsfield's plan to have a smaller, lighter Army. The flip side is that this will unbind the troops from a reluctancy to use air power for fear of collateral damage.

The great equalizer for the Queen of Battle has always been her King. Look for more JDAM's and actions from AC-130H and AC-130U.

Since the Dems couldn't force a pull out in the spoiler role don't expect them to make the hard decision while in charge.

"Since the Dems couldn't force a pull out in the spoiler role don't expect them to make the hard decision while in charge."

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If one could only rely on those self-preserving impulses to carry so far.....It is possible, especially if there is progress in Iraq over the next year into 2008, however, even if there is progress, the radical fringe of the democrat party have committed themselves to a prediction of an extremist regime in Iraq and those in opposition to them will not let them forget it, even if their ruling class never succumbs to their radical demands of immediate and precipitous withdrawal.

Anon at 9:54 claims General Petraeus is a member of the vast right wing.....I'll look for him and ask him for the secret hand shake the next we meet at the cross-burnings.....

Please, anon, all too easy....You actually parrot EVERY leftist talking point....

1) The Surge was supposed to help bring about a political settlement. It has done nothing of the sort. It has improved some areas for a short time, but not what the goals previously set out were.

This is what the left says the surge was supposed to do....not true....The surge was supposed to secure Iraqis while they continue the long road of national reconciliation....they need more time and deserve it especially considering the alternatives....an Iran-puppet state, religious supression, and a victory for Al Queda's tactics of terrorism.....This ideological reality is lost on the pathetic left.

2) Most in the media have reported on the announced drawdown of 30,000 troops from Iraq next summer as though this were some sign that Bush is changing course in his disastrous policy, when the truth is that he does not have a real choice, and that these troops are scheduled to rotate out anyway, leaving the original 130,000 pre-surge forces to continue dying in Iraq's civil war? Time and again, it seems that those we depend on to ferret out the truth act as stenographers for the Bush Administration. Those paying attention could see the coordinated campaign gearing up for months to snooker the public once again about what is really going on in Iraq.

Another canard....General Petraeus will continue to make requests for troop increases or decreases based on conditions on the ground. The left distracts from the military successes by saying the above instead of noting the couragous process our fighting men and women have accomplished. Once again, the call for immediate pullout is a minority view held by only 26% of the US population and the left cannot accept the fact that they have made NO progress in eroding the will of the American population to see Iraq through to a just and right outcome.

And I won't even touch your list that is a direct cut and paste from a leftist propaganda piece.....Nice.

Sorry, anon, you dead-enders for defeat will have to accomplish your goal for surrender on your own without the help of Bush or those with him supporting democracy and religious freedom. Have a nice time trying though....again.....

Stop the war....bring the troops home now....cut the funds!

Krazy Keith gets crushed in the rating
Viewers weary of his berating
Bill's two million strong
Keith's always wrong
No wonder he's so irritating

"Alos notice Cee continues to blame "leftists" for everything while never giving credit for the republicans and his president for bungling this war."

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I do not agree with your assertion, and neither do you because you and the left have not brought impeachment charges against the bunglers nor cut their funding.

It is a reality, like those nice quotes I repost, that seems not to be able to sink into your thick skull.

I agree with the president's policy and see the problems faced in Iraq as a result of war against a smart and determined enemy. Yoy see every challenge or step backward as only the fault of America....no, I do not agree with you.

So continue to spend time playing in the sandbox with the 26% dead-enders while the rest of us try to help the Iraqi people achieve freedom and peace despite you and the radical islamists.

and once again....for your pleasure...

Stop the war....bring the troops home now....cut the funds!

And this is my post today, the 1,597th day since the declaration of Mission Accomplished in Iraq.....

I am cee, good night and good luck.

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration's policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

"Lefties: Leave these pathetic drowning rats alone to stew in each other's juices. Get yourselves out in the street and fight this criminal administration in ways that really mean something, and that are noted by more than a handful of keyboard heroes!" Sir Loin of Beef

"American liberals need to face these truths: The demand for self-government was and remains strong in Iraq despite all our mistakes and the violent efforts of al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias to disrupt it." DEMOCRAT Bob Kerrey

"If we end up saying that because these people are committing these acts of terrorism in Iraq or Afghanistan, that we shouldn't have done the removal of Saddam or the removal of the Taliban, then we are making a fundamental mistake about our own future, about security, about the values we should be defending in the world." TONY BLAIR

"You can't bring the troops home if you give George Bush $100 billion to wage this war. You're not supporting them. You're keeping them in harm's way." CINDY SHEEHAN

"There is no doubt ... that Al Qaeda is operating in Iraq. There is no doubt that we've had to take very strong measures against them. And there is no doubt that the Iraqi security forces have got to be strong enough to be able to withstand not just the violence that has been between the Sunni and the Shia population and the Sunni insurgency, but also Al Qaeda itself." GORDON BROWN

"People of America: the world is following your news in regards to your invasion of Iraq, for people have recently come to know that, after several years of tragedies of this war, the vast majority of you want it stopped. Thus, you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven't made a move worth mentioning. On the contrary, they continue to agree to the spending of tens of billions to continue the killing and war there." OSAMA BIN LADEN

"Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda--worse for our society. It's as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was."
KEITH OLBERMANN

"So continue to spend time playing in the sandbox with the 26% dead-enders while the rest of us try to help the Iraqi people achieve freedom and peace despite you and the radical islamists."

Phari-cee needs to check his marching orders - Maybe he hasn't noticed that the "mission" in Iraq has changed over the years from:

“Iraq will serve as a beacon; a beacon of freedom in a part of the world desperate for freedom and liberty.” George W. Bush; December 19, 2005

to:

“Victory in Iraq is a government that can sustain itself, govern itself, and defend itself” George W. Bush; June 9, 2006

“Iraq will be a society in which there is relative peace. I say relative peace because if there is, like, no car bombings it will never happen that way” George W. Bush; February 14, 2007

"Either we'll succeed, or we won't succeed. And the definition of success as I described is sectarian violence down. Success is not no violence. ... But success is a level of violence where the people feel comfortable about living their daily lives." George W. Bush; May 2, 2007

“If the standard of success is no car bombings or suicide bombings we have just handed those who commit car bombings a huge victory” George W. Bush; April 24, 2007.

Keep changing the subject, Loin and wanna.....Your responsiblity is to pushing YOUR ruling class to action....not me....my guy is doing exactly what the military commanders and his advisors have come to concensus on and standing up to the cut-and-run pushers.

Make sure you prepare well for the march on DC coming up....I hear it is going to be a real "charge" for the '60's retreads. Don't forget your mind-altering substances to numb the reality of poor attendence and the fact that NOTHING was accomplished since the last gathering. And try to treat the counter protesting veterancs with some respect, will you?

Oh, and wanna, what were you trying to say at 10:47AM?

Cee: "So continue to spend time playing in the sandbox with the 26% dead-enders while the rest of us try to help the Iraqi people achieve freedom and peace despite you and the radical islamists."

The key words here being: "while the rest of us try to help the Iraqi people achieve freedom and peace"...

OK Cee, you explain to us how YOU personally are "Trying to help the Iraqi people achiece freedom and peace"?

All I see you doing is whining while posting inflammatory platitudes and out of context quotes aimed at those you disagree with on this lightly read blog. Also, if a remember right, YOU were even against personally paying a higher tax that would have helped us finance this war, that is being waged entirely on borrowed money.

What are YOU doing to help, Cee?

THIS ought to be good.

Poor Mike, all you can muster today is attacking me personally while your ruling class fritters away time they could be using to remove the stuuuupid and evil Buch Co. They should also be presenting, today, clear plans on fund cuts that would force their troop reductions on the executive....

They are doing NEITHER.

This is not about me or you. It is about our leaders.....The President is leading....your pathetic ruling elite are politicing, Mike, and your frustration towards me shows you have no plan on dealing with the reality.

General Petraeus gave his honest report and it still was not good enough for your ideologically blind ruling class to even change one iota of their scripted reaction...Fine, I accept their challenge....

Cut the funds!
Impeach the bumbling fools and evil corporatists, Bush and Cheney!

So, did you see Friday Keith (who is always right) beat your boy Oreilley. It just shows that the country has seen the light. America now agrees that bashing troops and comparing the president to hitler is good for America. Told you so!

It won't be long before the Factor is canceled. Wowee, I called this for the past two years. Oreilley is now the second best cable news show... Keith is the man!

What? Keith is back in second place floundering far behind in the ratings? Two days in a row? So winning one day out of 365 doesn't mean a coup? Well, Nevermind.

No, Cee, I WASN'T "attacking you personally".

YOU made a statement a few posts above stating that YOU were an active part of a so called majority who was "trying to help the Iraqi people achieve freedom and peace". You should be able to back that statement up with examples of what YOU are doing personally to help the war effort.

As for your statement to me about "developing a thicker skin', I think you should heed your own advice and stop your hypocrisy, since cheap "personal attacks" and taunts against your political opposition is virtually ALL you do on this blog.

Did you forget that only yesterday, you labeled me by name "anti-American", .... and you don't think THAT qualifies as a "personal attack"?

God forbid that if my life ever depends on needing a clear thinking doctor, that I don't end up drawing a convoluted thinker like yourself instead.

"When Petraeus couldn't say that the US is safer due to the Surge and the war in general."

Kinda disqualifies all of Cee's points!

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Um no, because the left's ruling class is still not taking any decisive action to change the Iraq policy....removing Bush/Cheney or cutting their money....

Also....

This class act of a professional military officer addressed that specific lie yesterday at his open and very long press conference with the free and open US and foreign press...

"'We don't know what would happen if al Qaeda had a sanctuary in Iraq from which they could presumably export violence, perhaps train others. We just don't know,' Petraeus told a news conference in Washington.

"The top U.S. commander in Iraq was clarifying an answer he gave to Sen. John Warner, R-Virginia, during a hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee a day earlier.

"Petraeus elaborated before the National Press Club on Wednesday.

"If a U.S. pullout left Iraq to al Qaeda influence, Petraeus said, 'would it be focused in the Levant, in the Magreb, back in Afghanistan, Western Europe, the United States? I don't know that.'

"Ryan Crocker, the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, went further. 'We have to assume that anywhere al Qaeda can find operating room, space, the ability to organize, to consolidate, they're going to use that to come after us,' said the ambassador, who had testified side-by-side with Petraeus the past two days on Capitol Hill.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/09/12/iraq.petraeus/index.html

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Calling General Petraeus a liar, a traitor and/or a Bush puppet was the response from the left....

This goes back to my claim you and the left are anti-American and Anti-military, Mike.

Don't take the characterization of your actions personally....I am not calling you ugly or dumb, after all!

It is simply an observation and consequence of your leftist world-view that has limits and flaws.

Not quite, anon....you are wrong!

An appropriation with just enough funds for withdrawl could be passed by a simple majority in the House (which the dems control) and the filibuster could be easily stopped by simply using the nuclear option and bringing the funding up for a simple vote....again, 51 votes would only be needed.

Also, the congress could even just not fund the request, and as the existing appropriated funds are spent, The President would be forced to withdrawal the troops....no money, no war.

These are the ONLY Constitutional mechanisms the Congress has to direct foreign policy and the democrats REFUSE to use them because they know only 27%, at best, support immediate and precipitous withdrawal.

Please get your facts right about The Constitution and how congress works....you are too reliant on DNC talking points about their so-called needed Republican support to promote the left's policies...they do not need the republicans....they have majorities in both chambers.

Also, the impeachment avenue has NEVER been pursued despite Mike, Loin and the rest of the leftists here claiming illegal and/or incompetant behavior on the part of the evecutives....."BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED!"

The Congressional leadership has refused to even start proceedings to investigate these allegations....perhaps your leaders are too much political cowards to show leadership here as well!

Cut the funds!
Impeach the bumbling fools and evil corporatists, Bush and Cheney!

"Cee's taunts about the left, the left, the funding, is falling on deaf ears...to everyone at this site and across America."

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And across america?....wow, who do you think I am.

No anon, the reality is that Bush has continued unchallenged and unfazed by the congressional leadership and will continue to do so through his term is office. This is exactly what I predicted in 11/06 and those who are now not responding know it....

Loin, Mike, mental midget (why) mental midget wanna be (AAP).....

The radical fringe left, the same people that brought you the withdrawal of US support which lead to Saigon in 1975, have accomplished nothing since 11/06 other than showing us all that the democrat party does not have any great leaders ready to stand by their rhetoric with real action....

Action like impeachment proceedings.
Action like holding funds that go to an immoral war.

I am glad you can produce the cognitive dissonance to overlook such facts, anon. You make a very good democrat party stooge!

"Cee thinks he knows more than Joe Biden who eloquently explained the funding on Meet the Press this weekend."

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Joe Biden! Mr. Wilmington City town councel to US Senator who thinks he is a Mensa member, Joe Biden? The man is a fraud and typical of the pathetic brain-trust the democrat party pretends to have with regards to national security!

He, he, he.....he is a political coward as well and knows he is giving lip service to real policy change. Again, the democrats do not need anyone to stop the funding.....they just do not want to take any political risk to accomplish what they claim is moral....

I call that pathetic and weak.....NO LEADERSHIP!

"I'm fully aware of the real facts of the Iraq War."

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Well you can hang out with the 27% dead-enders and the democrat leaders.....Make sure you prepare for that rally coming up....you know the "massive" anti-war protest.....

I'll stick with General Petraeus and the other real leaders doing their best to promote freedom and democracy in a land thirsty for it. Ann Coulter had a nice fact in her column this week regarding the desire of the average, decent Iraqi.....

"The Democrats' current talking point is that 'there can be no military solution in Iraq without a political solution.' But back when we were imposing a political solution, Democrats' talking point was that there could be no political solution without a military solution.

"They said the first Iraqi election, scheduled for January 2005, wouldn't happen because there was no 'security.' Noted Middle East peace and security expert Jimmy Carter told NBC's 'Today' show in September 2004 that he was confident the elections would not take place. 'I personally do not believe they're going to be ready for the election in January ... because there's no security there,' he said.

"At the first presidential debate in September 2004, Sen. John Kerry used his closing statement to criticize the scheduled Iraqi elections saying: 'They can't have an election right now. The president's not getting the job done.'

"About the same time, U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan said he doubted there would be elections in January, saying, 'You cannot have credible elections if the security conditions continue as they are now' -- although he may have been referring here to a possible vote of the U.N. Security Council.

"In October 2004, Nicholas Lemann wrote in The New Yorker that 'it may not be safe enough there for the scheduled elections to be held in January.'

"Days before the first election in Iraq in January 2005, The New York Times began an article on the election this way: 'Hejaz Hazim, a computer engineer who could not find a job in computers and now cleans clothes, slammed his iron into a dress shirt the other day and let off a burst of steam about the coming election. 'This election is bogus,' Mr. Hazim said. 'There is no drinking water in this city. There is no security. Why should I vote?' If there's a more artful articulation of the time-honored linkage between drinking water and voting, I have yet to hear it.

"And then, as scheduled, in January 2005, millions of citizens in a country that has never had a free election risked their lives to cast ballots in a free democratic election. They've voted twice more since then.

"Now our forces are killing lots of al-Qaida jihadists, preventing another terrorist attack on U.S. soil, and giving democracy in Iraq a chance -- and Democrats say we are 'losing' this war. I think that's a direct quote from their leader in the Senate, Harry Reid, but it may have been the Osama bin Laden tape released this week. I always get those two confused.

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Slam dunk Coultergeist! How she gets down to the marrow!

Democracy in Iraq: YES! Except if you are the left in America and a radical islamist terrorist!

Stop the war....bring the troops home now....cut the funds!

And this is my post today, the 1,597th day since the declaration of Mission Accomplished in Iraq.....

I am cee, good night and good luck.

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration's policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

"Lefties: Leave these pathetic drowning rats alone to stew in each other's juices. Get yourselves out in the street and fight this criminal administration in ways that really mean something, and that are noted by more than a handful of keyboard heroes!" Sir Loin of Beef

"American liberals need to face these truths: The demand for self-government was and remains strong in Iraq despite all our mistakes and the violent efforts of al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias to disrupt it." DEMOCRAT Bob Kerrey

"If we end up saying that because these people are committing these acts of terrorism in Iraq or Afghanistan, that we shouldn't have done the removal of Saddam or the removal of the Taliban, then we are making a fundamental mistake about our own future, about security, about the values we should be defending in the world." TONY BLAIR

"You can't bring the troops home if you give George Bush $100 billion to wage this war. You're not supporting them. You're keeping them in harm's way." CINDY SHEEHAN

"There is no doubt ... that Al Qaeda is operating in Iraq. There is no doubt that we've had to take very strong measures against them. And there is no doubt that the Iraqi security forces have got to be strong enough to be able to withstand not just the violence that has been between the Sunni and the Shia population and the Sunni insurgency, but also Al Qaeda itself." GORDON BROWN

"People of America: the world is following your news in regards to your invasion of Iraq, for people have recently come to know that, after several years of tragedies of this war, the vast majority of you want it stopped. Thus, you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven't made a move worth mentioning. On the contrary, they continue to agree to the spending of tens of billions to continue the killing and war there." OSAMA BIN LADEN

"Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda--worse for our society. It's as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was."
KEITH OLBERMANN

What did I predict about bad news from Iraq being received gleefully by the left....

From the pathological kos....

"Bush's Golden Boy of Anbar Assassinated'

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/9/13/112441/762

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The leftist author actually is flippant about the terrorist attack on a US ally AND gleeful that President Bush stood with the man only last week.....

Macabre....a good word for the left.

Phari-cee has no idea what harsh criticisms with which I weekly regale Democratic legislators across the nation; or of the time and money I have put toward the candidacy of Dennis Kucinich, who explicitly stands for every sarcastic admonition cee included in his petulent taunts.

Meanwhile, Phari-cee sits complacently loving and making his own every self-contradictory word and measure coming down from his fetish/president and his henchmen.

Phari-cee cannot bring himself to criticize, or even critique, any aspect of Bush's failed presidency and successful piracy - even when these acts repudiate every message that tradition attributed to Jesus Christ, the religious prophet hypocritically declared messiah and savior by this passive little war-lover.

"Doesn't fit into his Democratic bashing agenda."

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Oh it does very well...because the left's solution would create more Iraqi refugees, just like it did in 1975 in Vietnam and those left behind would fall under totalitarianism's murerous rule, just like they did in 1975.

I left this simple fact unadressed because it is common sense. But anon wants to claim I ignored it....

Sorry, it only gives me more ammunition when you brought it up....

And we'll see about 2008.....I have no predictions yet....let's just say that when there is progress politically in Iraq, the democrats will change their tune and try to spin it for their own political advantage.

Bill Maher Asks H. Clinton: "Why Should Americans Vote For Someone Who Can Be Fooled By George Bush?"

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Oh, and how many people even know about or heard Maher's question....only pathetic leftist losers like yourself are even talking about the forum....the average guy is concentrating on more important events.

Cee: "And this goes back to my claim that you and the left are anti-American and anti-military Mike"

Yet Cee, you whine like a baby and call it "personal attacks" when you percieve something that is said about YOU to be hostile.
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"Don't take my characterizations of your actions personally.....I am not calling you ugly or dumb after all."

No, you are calling me something far worse, ... but most of all, you are LYING. I will hold my patriotism against your ongoing false platitudes and taunts ANY day of ANY week.
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"It is simply an observation of your leftist Worldview that has limits and flaws.

But FAR fewer "limits and flaws" than your deluded view that empire buliding disquised as "spreading freedom" somehow qualifies you as having a corner on patriotism.

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I'm still waiting for you to back up your silly assertion that YOU are actively doing ANYTHING constructive "to try to help bring the Iraqi people achieve freedom and peace"

You're doing NOTHING Cee! You're nothing but a whiner and a taunter exraordinaire, .... as well as hypocrite.

So Petraeus wants to be POTUS, and sacrifices his troops and the readiness of our military to that end.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2956422.ece

What else would you expect from the administration's five-year sycophant vetting process?

"why" has been shamed into anon. I wouldn't put a name to that brainless far left spew, either.

Enlist, Phari-cee!

If not as a doctor, as you claim to be, then as a chaplain or chaplain's scuttlebutt. But just get of your ass and make an honest war-monger out of your pathetic self.

Nice try, anon at 12:56PM to again use a leftist talking point from kos to deride the professional and highly regarded General Petraeus.

Are the democrats using their usual sources to see if the general has been in any airport bathrooms tapping his foot or text messaging interns with sexually explicit language?

This is a war, anon....not a political race for a silly office....I enjoy seeing the radical left try to besmurch the general and fail....He has proved to be unshakable and honest in the face of much lesser people this week in DC.

Oh, and Loin....your retreat once again into bringing up my myth believing shows me you once again got nuthin, honey. I respect you for your far left stands, but just want to make it clear that you are misguided and in a very small minority in America. Your views came to acceptance in the late 60's and lead to much I despise, but I respect our democracy to say we have to lie in the bed we make....I just don;t want that bed again.

And a majority in America does not embrace your philosophy today. The other democrat party candidates may decide to join you, and if they do I am sure that will insure their defeat.

You do not know all I do to make sure the true freedom our founder's wanted for us is insured for the next generation as you and you ideologues try to force your world-view on us all. Let's just say it is much more than the small amount of time I spend here at OW and it is consistent with Christ's message of original sin and redemption through Him alone.

Bill Maher Asks H. Clinton: "Why Should Americans Vote For Someone Who Can Be Fooled By George Bush?"

Maher shows more evidence of his occasional brilliance. I am going to suggest to the Kucinich campaign that they adopt a version of this insightful question into their rhetoric.

Thanks for the quote, Phari-cee. Now go enlist your chickenhawk ass.

why/patsy, your posts are transparent in every way.

Posted by: cee at September 13, 2007 1:11 PM

Blah blah blah.

Sacrifice for your beliefs, Phari-cee. You are an embarassm