Yeah J$! This must be like shootin' fish in a barrel, taking candy from a baby. Man these post just write themselves. Nothing like using Olbermann's own words, graphics, etc. to point out the truth. Keep on keepin' on!!!!!

I just listened to Terri Gross on NPR and the guy who wrote Fiasco condemed, very strongly, these personal attacks against Petreaus, calling them very wrong and misguided.

He, he, he.....

Another sign of the fringe element Olbermann speaks to....even the political class has condemned the swipe at General Petraeus because they know that common sense shows such pathetic tactics will not be received well by normal Americans.

Olbermann.....the radical left's man.

Cee, as I've already said, I do not agree with nor do I defend moveon's "Betray us" ad, ..... however, in reality, it is no worse than the despicable Freedomwatch ads that are being run that literally tie in the 911 attack with Iraq.

You know it, I know it, everybody who is paying attention knows it....but I'm confident you will never admit it.

Ah, Mike, the key is that The New York Times accepted the ad while MSNBC refuses to air the Freedomwatch ads....

Why is that, Mike? I have no problem with anyone taking the ad revenue (we all know the rag NYT is is desperate financial straights and needs the revenue) but once the ad is run, I can have an opinion and reaction to it. MSNBC and CNBC obviously feels their ideology make them uncofortable with Freedomwatch ads.

To sully an active professional man's "patriotism" by claiming he is a tratitor is wrong, IMHO....

Obviously Olbermann and MSNBC who pays him does not feel this way, nor does the fringe anti-war group (and leftist front organization) moveon.org.

Anti-American AND anti-military....why can't you and the rest of the left just admit that is what you really are?

Cee: "Ah Mike, the key is that the New York Times accepted the ad while MSNBC refuses to run the Freedonwatch ads."

"Why is that Mike?"

I don't know Cee. Do I look like the NY Times? Obviously MSNBC made the correct decision, and the NYT didn't.

Cee: "Anti-American and anti-military....why can't you and the rest of the left just admit that is what you really are?"

Because that is a LIE, and I can't believe that someone who calls himself a doctor would perpetuate a despicable LIE like that.

In fact Cee, the mere utterance of such inflammatory tripe makes YOU anti-American!

No way the above post was the normal O'lielly. He didn't wish death upon someone that doesn't agree with him.

Why is that, Mike? I have no problem with anyone taking the ad revenue (we all know the rag NYT is is desperate financial straights and needs the revenue) but once the ad is run, I can have an opinion and reaction to it. MSNBC and CNBC obviously feels their ideology make them uncofortable with Freedomwatch ads.
Posted by: cee at September 12, 2007 2:58 PM

Actually Cee, MoveOn.org received a $102,000 discount on the standard political advocacy rate that is advertised at $167,157 so the New York Slimes did not run the add to make money, they ran the add because they support it.

Did the VC follow us home in 1974 ?
Posted by: Bill O'lielly at September 12, 2007 3:31 PM

Really, I thought you lived in the United States O'Lielly?

"We've seen a very modest reduction of violence in Baghdad, partly because entire neighborhoods have essentially been ethnically cleansed. Those are all positive things,"
Barak Obamanation

Really? I guess we know his solution to Iraq.

When a group calls a general "Betray-Us" I believe it is reasonable to characterize them as anti-military.

When a group calls the sitting President of The United States a terrorist and puts our behavior in the same moral depths as lawless terrorists....I think it is reasonable to characterize them as anti-American.

When a group endorces policies that the enemies of The United States endorce, I think it is reasonable to call them anti-American.

Why do these characterizations alarm you Mike? The left proudly displays their credentials regarding these policies. Is it because it is bad PR and the average American does not embrace such extreme views?

I am called a fundmentalist flat earther bigoted rightwinger (also anti-American BTW) without a complaint....an inaccurate term that is used by the tolerant secular humanists that post on this board and I let it roll down my back as so much rain water....I do not care what people call me, I suggest you try to get a little thicker skin as well.

"...I just usually post when I am watching Bill O'reilly and he angers me so much that I lash out and say stupid things...I really am not as maniacal as I seem, however I am pushed easily."
Posted by: Bill O'lielly at September 12, 2007 3:58 PM

So Bill O'Reilly makes you so unhinged that you constantly leave death threats and many other ugly, vile and pointless comments. What's next... will Lou Dobs "transmit" messages so you will start tracking down immigrants. F*cking idiot, its only cable TV pundit...take your vile "dumps" elsewhere.

Keith's hypocrisy has no end
His own statement he won't defend
Move-On coined his phrase
Now Keith wants it two ways
Move-On is like Olby's best friend

"If Petraeus cannot say that the surge has made America safer what exactly are we fighting for ?"

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We are fighting for the security a democratic ally in the region. Their success is for the benefit of our national security as General Petraeus stated clearly today.

Iraq is only one of two democracies in the region surrounded by theocracy and totalitarianism. You seem to want Iran, Syria and the nationless Al Queda take over a population that voted just two years ago....Abandon them to the totalitarians just like in South Vietnam.

No. If that is your goal you're on your own. George Bush will not make that happen for you nor will his supporters. The left will have to do what they did in 1975 and CUT THE FUNDS and live with the consequences to our reputation for standing for freedom and the helpless in our world against despotism.

Like I keep repeating on and on and on.....

Stop the war....bring the troops home now....cut the funds!

And this is my post today, the 1,596th day since the declaration of Mission Accomplished in Iraq.....

I am cee, good night and good luck.

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration's policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

"Lefties: Leave these pathetic drowning rats alone to stew in each other's juices. Get yourselves out in the street and fight this criminal administration in ways that really mean something, and that are noted by more than a handful of keyboard heroes!" Sir Loin of Beef

"American liberals need to face these truths: The demand for self-government was and remains strong in Iraq despite all our mistakes and the violent efforts of al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias to disrupt it." DEMOCRAT Bob Kerrey

"If we end up saying that because these people are committing these acts of terrorism in Iraq or Afghanistan, that we shouldn't have done the removal of Saddam or the removal of the Taliban, then we are making a fundamental mistake about our own future, about security, about the values we should be defending in the world." TONY BLAIR

"You can't bring the troops home if you give George Bush $100 billion to wage this war. You're not supporting them. You're keeping them in harm's way." CINDY SHEEHAN

"There is no doubt ... that Al Qaeda is operating in Iraq. There is no doubt that we've had to take very strong measures against them. And there is no doubt that the Iraqi security forces have got to be strong enough to be able to withstand not just the violence that has been between the Sunni and the Shia population and the Sunni insurgency, but also Al Qaeda itself." GORDON BROWN

"People of America: the world is following your news in regards to your invasion of Iraq, for people have recently come to know that, after several years of tragedies of this war, the vast majority of you want it stopped. Thus, you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven't made a move worth mentioning. On the contrary, they continue to agree to the spending of tens of billions to continue the killing and war there." OSAMA BIN LADEN

"Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda--worse for our society. It's as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was."
KEITH OLBERMANN

"As Petraeus and Baghdad ambassador Ryan Crocker prepared to deliver their appraisal of Iraq to US lawmakers on Monday, left-wing group MoveOn.org took out a full-page newspaper advertisement to denounce 'General Betray Us.'

"At a news conference following the gruelling sessions in Congress, Petraeus said an old friend had sent him a copy of Rudyard Kipling's poem 'If' -- which speaks of treating those 'two impostors,' triumph and defeat, just the same.

"'I took some strength, I think, from that,' the four-star general said.

"'Needless to say, to state the obvious, I disagree with the message of those who are exercising the First Amendment right (to free speech) that generations of soldiers have sought to preserve for Americans.

"'Some of it was just flat, completely wrong. The rest was at least more than arguable,' Petraeus said of the ad, which coincided with some Democratic lawmakers' claims that the general was not an independent voice on Iraq."

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A class act responding to the absolute pathetic and irresponsible behavior of anti-American ideologues.

Like......

Keith Olbermann:

"Which of these stories will you be talking about tomorrow? The Petraeus report, less Petraeus, more betray us"

And this is my post today, the 1,596th day since the declaration of Mission Accomplished in Iraq.....

I am cee, good night and good luck.

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration's policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

"Lefties: Leave these pathetic drowning rats alone to stew in each other's juices. Get yourselves out in the street and fight this criminal administration in ways that really mean something, and that are noted by more than a handful of keyboard heroes!" Sir Loin of Beef

"American liberals need to face these truths: The demand for self-government was and remains strong in Iraq despite all our mistakes and the violent efforts of al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias to disrupt it." DEMOCRAT Bob Kerrey

"If we end up saying that because these people are committing these acts of terrorism in Iraq or Afghanistan, that we shouldn't have done the removal of Saddam or the removal of the Taliban, then we are making a fundamental mistake about our own future, about security, about the values we should be defending in the world." TONY BLAIR

"You can't bring the troops home if you give George Bush $100 billion to wage this war. You're not supporting them. You're keeping them in harm's way." CINDY SHEEHAN

"There is no doubt ... that Al Qaeda is operating in Iraq. There is no doubt that we've had to take very strong measures against them. And there is no doubt that the Iraqi security forces have got to be strong enough to be able to withstand not just the violence that has been between the Sunni and the Shia population and the Sunni insurgency, but also Al Qaeda itself." GORDON BROWN

"People of America: the world is following your news in regards to your invasion of Iraq, for people have recently come to know that, after several years of tragedies of this war, the vast majority of you want it stopped. Thus, you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven't made a move worth mentioning. On the contrary, they continue to agree to the spending of tens of billions to continue the killing and war there." OSAMA BIN LADEN

"Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda--worse for our society. It's as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was."
KEITH OLBERMANN

Jimmy Carter proved America's weakness by allowing and assisting the fall of a pro-American regime in Iran, and doing nothing about the Soviet-backed April, 1978 coup in Afghanistan — plus withdrawing support for the Somoza regime in Nicaragua, leading to the Cuban-backed Sandinista revolution in July, 1979.

The Carter administration had made it crystal clear to the Kremlin that the U.S. would do little if anything to oppose the brutal influx of tens of thousands of Soviet troops that began moving into Afghanistan on Christmas Eve in 1979.

They were right. Carter's tepid response to the aggression was:

• An ineffectual grain embargo.

• A boycott of the Moscow Olympics that hurt American athletes more than anyone.

• An announcement from the president in an address to the nation shortly after New Year's in 1980 that "Fishing privileges for the Soviet Union in United States waters will be severely curtailed."

The invasion enraged Osama bin Laden, who went to Afghanistan to join the resistance. There, he met Palestinian radical Muslim scholar Abdullah Azzam, whose slogan was "Jihad and the rifle alone: no negotiations, no conferences, no dialogues."

According to author Lawrence Wright's Pulitzer Prize-winning history of al-Qaida, "The Looming Tower," "Bin Laden revered Azzam," who would travel to Saudi Arabia and hold "recruiting sessions in bin Laden's apartment, where he magnetized young Saudis with his portraits of the suffering of the refugees and the courage of the Afghan mujahideen."

Azzam "provided a model for the man (bin Laden) would become," writes Wright.

Together, bin Laden and Azzam founded the mujahideen base Maktab al-Khidamat, or the Afghan Services Bureau. Afghanistan is also where bin Laden met Ayman al-Zawahiri, who would help him found Maktab's successor group — al-Qaida.

Unintended consequences are a common feature of world history. As Jimmy Carter takes snipes at the current president, Americans should not forget that Carter's insistence that America must be weak led directly to Islamic mass murderers becoming powerful enough to slaughter thousands of innocent Americans — and to their current ambition to incinerate millions of us.

Jimmy Carter, the man who created Osama Bin Laden.

Carter himself, speaking to reporters in January 1979 about the overthrow of the Shah of Iran, a little less than a year before the Soviet invasion, assured the world, "Certainly we have no desire or ability to intrude massive forces into Iran or any other country . . ."

Carter promised: "This is something that we have no intention of ever doing in another country. We've tried this once in Vietnam. It didn't work, as you well know."

Does this sound like anyone else we know?

Sorry wanna (AAP)....Israel is a democracy and all of its adult citizens, including non-Jews, have the right to vote. They have a parlimentary system of government that is accountable to the people and is a shining light in an area of evil despotism....espeically Iran and Syria (the countries you seem to support)

BTW, I am using the usual definition of the middle east to include....

Bahrain, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, the Palestinian territories, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Somalia, Syria, Turkey, the United Arab Emirates, and Yemen.

Pakistan is part of another geographic area called southwest asia, but some do include Afghanistan and Pakistan in the middle east, so I will not make it an issue of contention.

Have a nice day, wanna.

"Odd, sounds like Moron in Chief pre-2000 election promising he wouldn't engage the country into nation building."

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And 9/11 was undertaken with the mistaken idea that The United States would not respond militarily and begin to allow our fear of terrorism to direct our foreign policy decisions.

Instead, regimes supporting terrorists were taken out (Saddam and The Taliban) and those still participating in terrorism have been put on notice that such attacks will not be tolerated.

Has The United States been attacked on our own soil since, wanna?

It's called deterance....just like arming for nuclear war kept the your fellow secular leftists in the USSR from using them in the 20th century (which the left also protested), countries thinking about supporting radical terrorists see Iraq and Afghanistan and will think twice about harboring such fanatics.

Face it, wanna, the left has no idea about how to protect our nation from the wonderful example of Jimmy Carter to how your pathetic ruling class treated General Petraeus today.....basically calling him a liar and failure.

Nice....Anti-American and Anti-Freedom.....hurray for the fringe left!

couldn't locate the USA in a world map
Average American Patriot at September 12, 2007 5:13 PM

How do you locate something in a World Map?
I guess AAP was taught english at one of those public schools.

Yes, Sudan is usually included, wanna....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Middle_east_graphic_2003.jpg

Get a life and read some more....it will help you at least keep up.

Moo.

Phari-cee meant "Caphiristan", instead of "Middle East" I suspect. He's old-fashioned that way.

Wanna, your attempt to eliminate Sudan from The Middle East is silly....Just like I said one could include southwest asian countries in the ill defined region, most and one may include Sudan, it is arguable, but it is done....

The Middle east spans continents and is more a cultural/religious/historical region than geographic region....some specifically tied to the spread of Islam in the region. For an even larger list of nations some include.....go here....

http://www.middleeastinfo.org/index.php

Wanna, I really think you no longer want to just be wanna....you really desire the title "mental midget."

As you can see, even at wiki (search "Middle east countries")....who exactly is considered within the region is debatable...Some incude Egypt, some do not, some include Afghanistan, some do not.....some inculde Sudan....some do not.

Listen carefully, wanna.....your inability to comprehend written english and/or form a cogent thought and successfully present it for us all to happily read is just barely ahead of mental midget (why).....continue to try harder, you may just get there!

I am now finished defending a definition of The Middle East....I will be glad to let you attempt to have the last word.

Moo.

DUMBFUCK! I mean Below Average American PatriOWNED!!

Cee: "Anti-American and anti-military....why can't you and the rest of the left just admit that is what you really are?"

Because that is a LIE, and I can't believe that someone who calls himself a doctor would perpetuate a despicable LIE like that.

In fact Cee, the mere utterance of such inflammatory tripe makes YOU anti-American!

Posted by: Mike at September 12, 2007 3:19 PM

More of "you're wrong and a liar" with nothing to back it up, nothing.

I just love it when cee is proven wrong, and he makes up his own definitions to perpetuate his own delusions.

Atheism and Agnosticism are religions.

The Sudan is in the middle east.

George Bush isn't a liar.

When you can pull anything out of your ass and call it a 'fact', you can never be wrong.

Do me favor, pharicee, be humble when you see Jesus, I hear he likes that.

Thanks, patsy!

I can't wait to tune into Sunday Night Football to see if Olby is broadcasting from the observation deck at 30 Rock or from Secaucus. After all of lies, slanders and stupid comments that Olby uttered this week, I think the cold reception our pal has gotten from his SNF comrades will turn even more icy.

O'lielly posts ' something serious' and the baby jesus weeps. HA! what a fucking loser.

The idea that the war in Iraq is winnable is taking a foothold across America. The question asked is always " How many more American lives?....blah, blah, blah."
The answer is " As many as it takes" The investment so far is only capable of showing dividends if we continue. Mike loathes the idea of "Freedom Watch" , the truth is, half of America is ready to support that notion. ONWARD!

The only person who deletes posts is me, O'Lielly. And I've been a bit more proactive on it for the past week. Incredibly, it's taken you all that time to notice it, as you obviously just cut and paste like a madman without even bothering to read the posts or the threads. Good work.

Since you brought it up, I will continue to delete spam when I see it. And for your information, spam will consist of an identical post pasted into multiple comment threads. Or a long cut-and-paste job that bears no relevancy to the topic of the post. And that goes double when you steal someone else's property and paste copyrighted material around as if you owned it.

The above post has been listed for deletion for the following reasons:

Too Close to Truth

We are in the process of removing said post, and appreciate your patience while we strive to bring you a bigger and even farther right Olbermannwatch.

Thank you.

There is a request in NEWSBUSTERs comments for a list of sponsors on Hardball & Countdown to start a Boycott. OLBERMAN WATCH site was referenced to see if anyone here knows how to get a spnsors list. Any ideas??

"All warfare is based on deception."
The Art of War, Sun Tzu, ca. 400 B.C.

Juan,

Sun Tzu was specifically referring to deception of the enemy; these wars are based on the deception of those fighting it and paying for it.

Not that the General of Wu would have balked at decieving the masses - most kingdoms have been built on doing this in spades - but that is not what the quote was addressing.

Just hunting Phari-cee down to continue a discussion:

Phari-cee wrote:

"Israel believes that North Korea has been supplying Syria and Iran with nuclear materials, a Washington defense official told the New York Times. 'The Israelis think North Korea is selling to Iran and Syria what little they have left,' he said.

"Meanwhile on Wednesday the Nazareth-based Israeli Arab newspaper The Assennara cited anonymous Israeli sources as saying that Israeli jets 'bombed a Syrian-Iranian missile base in northern Syria that was financed by Iran... It appears that the base was completely destroyed.'

"According to the Times, American officials confirmed Tuesday that Israeli jets launched an airstrike inside Syria. Sources said that Israel struck at least one target in northeastern Syria, but could not provide more details.

"The most likely target was, according to some administration officials, weapon caches sent by Iran to Hizbullah through Syria."

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Yep, these are the honest brokers the left (so brilliantly represented here at OW by Loin), want to leave Iraq to, while there is still a viable coalition government trying to reach reconciliation....
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Honest brokers, Phari-cee? What about Israel launching unprovoked missile attacks based on what they identify as hunches - but which are more likely cases of "intelligence fixed around the policy" the way we do it.

Why did we accept Iran's help in Afghanistan, if they are so fundamentally evil?Why did Syria protect our emabassy from assault by radical islamic terrorists last year?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/09/12/syria.embassy/index.html

"The Syrians killed three attackers and apprehended a suspect outside the embassy after a car exploded near the walls of the American compound, the Syrian Information Ministry said.

"I do think the Syrians reacted to the attack in a way that helped to secure our people, and we very much appreciate that," U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said while visiting Canada.

Four attackers detonated the car bomb before attempting to storm the compound, the Syrian ministry said. (Watch officials go through evidence from the attack -- 5:43)

The Syrian forces met the attackers, and an embassy guard was killed battling them, the ministry said."

Those perfidious bastards!! Obviously not to be trusted.

Posted by: Sir Loin of Beef at September 12, 2007 4:59 PM

keiths 'truth' is only truth to the lunatic left.

By "lunatic left" you mean people who care about facts right? Just curious.

Maybe Tiki will have Chicken and Waffles with Olby because they seem like such good pals.

The Olbsession continues - BOR as WPITW.

Bill O'lielly,

Actually, that's a great quote!

As for the best I can do, guess it would be to research for a list of sponsors. Anyone willing to help?

Softball sponsors from the softball website..

Wells Fargo
Weight Watchers
Plus Size Clothing
Perfectmatch.com
Lowermybills.com
Entrepreneur

Pathetic, all of you.

Who said it is NOT the issue. The question is the RIGHT to say it, which both MoveOn and Olbermann have--particularly since Petraeus has been on the losing end of a display of 'evidence' before.

Those are the pictures you should be thinking about, not the picture of what some intern thought up as the caption for a story.

Nice blog, HTML disabled.

The words "losing end of a display of 'evidence'" were to link to this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1774757

Enjoy!

Thanks, royal king,

Will try to add more to the list with contact info tomorrow.

As Mr. Olbermann detaches himself further and further from reality, we see in his incoherent ramblings the reasons why liberalism is dying. Normal people are repelled at the anger and hatred that he constantly directs at our country. However the dwindling number of liberals in our country however, continue to lap it up, thus assuring him a small lunatic fringe fan base for some time to come.

Olbermann detached from reality? You morons cling to every word drooled out by your idiot-savant retard fetish/president across five years of pointless war; even as his own explanations and objectives change 180 degrees in order to keep his administration afloat. Just take a look at the range of bullshit you will accept from one selfish mouth:

“Iraq will serve as a beacon; a beacon of freedom in a part of the world desperate for freedom and liberty.” George W. Bush; December 19, 2005

“Victory in Iraq is a government that can sustain itself, govern itself, and defend itself” George W. Bush; June 9, 2006

“Iraq will be a society in which there is relative peace. I say relative peace because if there is, like, no car bombings it will never happen that way” George W. Bush; February 14, 2007

"Either we'll succeed, or we won't succeed. And the definition of success as I described is sectarian violence down. Success is not no violence. ... But success is a level of violence where the people feel comfortable about living their daily lives." George W. Bush; May 2, 2007

“If the standard of success is no car bombings or suicide bombings we have just handed those who commit car bombings a huge victory” George W. Bush; April 24, 2007.

That's one glorious, high-flying war you've got there, buddy! And you knuckle-draggers lap it up - happily; ecstatically. Self destructive mind-slaves are not a pretty sight.

Jesus! The right is becoming more ineffectual every single day...

Oh no! Someone called the General, "Betrayus"! Goodness, I didn't see that one coming. Will he cry on the air or wait until he gets to his special crying place?

I didn't hear you limp-wristed sissies ONCE call for an apology or condemnation of the heinous things said about the Clintons. Nor did we ask for any...

Neocons are less than wimps. They are America's jellyfish...

Blindrat says:

"Oh no! Someone called the General, "Betrayus"! Goodness, I didn't see that one coming. Will he cry on the air or wait until he gets to his special crying place?"

Blindrat gives his endorsement to the infathomably stupid and disgusting full page ad calling Petraes a liar and a traitor, the same man who was ovverwhelmingly confirmed by the Democratically controlled Senate. Only the frothing at the mouth left fringe of which blindrat is a charter member supports such utter lunacy, as they have supported such brilliant insights such as these:

If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime -- Pol Pot or others -- that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners."

Dick Durbin

"Shamefully, we now learn that Saddam's torture chambers reopened under new management: U.S. management."

Ted Kennedy

“I don’t take sides for or against Hezbollah or for or against Israel”

Congressman John Dingell:WDIV-TV July 30, 2006

"You know education - if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

John Kerry

blindbat is a traitor, thru and thru. Tell us something we don't know. Clearly, he is on the side of the enemy. Read any one of his posts. Duh.

I just found this site. I do watch Countdown and enjoy the show. Keith Olbermann is correct a lot more times than he is wrong, which is rarely.

Just a hunch here, but would I be going out on a limb to say that all of you Olbermann haters are also Bush supporters?

If I am correct, aren't you just a wee bit embarrassed of that and have no business criticizing a man who gets most of his information with from the daily news ?

Posted by: Steven at September 13, 2007 5:33 PM
Just a hunch here, but would I be going out on a limb to say that all of you Olbermann haters are also Bush supporters?

No limb to go out on.
100% Bush supporters, much to their disgrace.
Posted by: at September 13, 2007 5:36 PM

I know you will find this hard to believe, but many folks here do not support Bush and STILL think Olbermann is a hack.

Steven,

You need to do a bit more research. People who post here are disgusted by Olbermann's lack of journalistic ethics and his cowardice in refusing to allow opposing views to challenge his ill informed opinions. Party affiliaition has nothing to do with it. Before you form an opinion about Olbermann being a truth teller, you should go here:

http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2006/12/keith_olbermann_2.php

If I am correct, aren't you just a wee bit embarrassed of that and have no business criticizing a man who gets most of his information with from the daily news ?
Posted by: Steven at September 13, 2007 5:33 PM

I haven't watched Countdown in several days and I'm wondering if the the "man who gets most of his information with [sic] from the daily news" has bothered to cover Hsu and HRC?....

Neocons are less than wimps. They are America's jellyfish...

Posted by: blindrat at September 13, 2007 10:33 AM

"bleeding-heart fascists" I calls 'em.

He has, Cecelia.

I know you will find this hard to believe, but many folks everywhere do not even watch K.O's Countdown and STILL think G.W. Bush is a moron.

Posted by: I know you will find this hard to believe, but many folks everywhere do not even watch K.O's Countdo at September 13, 2007 6:15 PM

so YOU are here because....

I haven't watched Countdown in several days and I'm wondering if the the "man who gets most of his information with [sic] from the daily news" has bothered to cover Hsu and HRC?....
Posted by: Cecelia at September 13, 2007 6:17 PM

Finally, barely covered it yesterday (see J$ recap). What was interesting was that he teased "Fred Thompson doesn't go to Church" and half-talked about the Hsu issue within that segament, he may have spend all of 40 seconds.

information with from the daily news ?
Posted by: Steven at September 13, 2007 5:33 PM

I apologise on steven's behalf. He meant to say from the daily kos, media matters, du and on occasion from the puffington post's daily news/smear sites.

He has, Cecelia.
Posted by: Mike at September 13, 2007 6:26 PM

So which egregious Republican is the true reason for the campaign scandal season?

amusement, a good laugh out of you pathetic drowning Rabid Right Wingers.

Posted by: I know you will find this hard to believe, but many folks everywhere do not even watch K.O's Countdo at September 13, 2007 6:33 PM

Well, your mama must have raised you right. You've returned the kindness by amusing us with a display of your reasoning abilities...

Posted by: [Cecelia] at September 13, 2007 6:38 PM

Reasoning?

Why would I even try to reason with you pathetic Rabid Right Wingwers.

I said amusement.

Kinda like you pathetic Rabid Right Wingwers saying G.W. Bush is not a conservative.
But you dumbshits voted for the 'Decider' twice.

Posted by: I know you will find this hard to believe, but many folks everywhere do not even watch K.O's Countdo at September 13, 2007 6:56 PM

Well, you're certainly right that your hasty generalizations aren't really indicative of "reasoning", however they surely ARE amusing... :D

Oh, Cecelia, AAP say hi.

Brandon too, or maybe not.
Posted by: I know you will find this hard to believe, but many folks everywhere do not even watch K.O's

Countdo at September 13, 2007 7:02 PM

Pleading demonic possession isn't going make anyone go easy on you....

Olbermann goes into apoplexy over the necessity of literally saving the Republic from the rest of Bush's term, but when talking with Sen. Dodd, he seems to have treated the subject with the same depth as the Hsu scandal.

Get this....from the transcript....and see that there is no follow-up (To the contrary there's an immediate deflection!) from apoplexy-man to Dodd's amazing admission!:

Olbermann--- Does the Democratic Party at this point risk losing that vast majority now of Americans who want us out now? Do they—do you run collectively—I’m not saying you personally—but do you collectively run this idea that in some parallel to the way the White House is clearly stalling to stay there, that some Democrats at least want to stall so that this is part of the 2008 campaign at all costs?

DODD: It would be a tragic mistake. And I think you hit it on the head. What I suspected was going on yesterday and today that will happen tomorrow night is just to keep this going long enough for this president to leave office and hand off this problem to his successor here. That’s buying time here. That’s an awful price to pay for the people who lose their lives, come back permanently injured, not to mention draining our treasury.

I don’t know of anyone who believes that our military presence is going to resolve the civil conflict inside Iraq. And I come back to the fundamental question that every president must ask himself or herself, are we safer? Are we more secure? How vulnerable are we?

And I would argue that we’re less safe, less secure, and far more vulnerable. We’ve turned Iraq into a Petri dish for Jihadists as a result of our presence there militarily. I have great respect for the military and the job they’ve done under the circumstances. But until we Democrats speak with clarity on this issue, I think we’re going to hurt ourselves. I think we’re going to be, in a sense, enabling the situation to persist.

OLBERMANN: And also defining who we are as a people. I mentioned your new book. It would seem to have, at first blush, very little to do with the current political scene, “Letters from Nuremberg,” which is your father’s correspondence with your mother, serving at the Nazi war criminal trials.

When Bovine comes around tell him to chalk this up to the 1002 dalmatians.

Posted by: Average American Patriot at September 13, 2007 7:14 PM

In your case, it's never Disney, it's Sybil....

Wow. This is what America has come to? I've stopped strying to convince idiots about anything. Half of you see things wrong and the other half of us see things right. Just about 50/50 folks. There just ain't any middle road any longer. Pick a side. I've decided. Take a wild guess............

Wow. This is what America has come to? I've stopped strying to convince idiots about anything. Half of you see things wrong and the other half of us see things right. Just about 50/50 folks. There just ain't any middle road any longer. Pick a side. I've decided. Take a wild guess............

Posted by: Tom at September 13, 2007 7:44 PM

I can't guess. All ideologies and political parties garner a few idiots who think they're wholly right and everyone else is wholly wrong.

Which political party or philosophy has had the misfortune of attracting you?

The FRINGE element IS THE DEMOCRAT party. That's their rank and file now. The more out there the better. That's why Olbermann is their God-King. He buys into every far left lunatic THEORY there is and reports it as fact. And yes, if they throw a decorated military man under the bus for telling the truth, so be it. He won't report their lies the way they want them, the way Olbermann will so they crucify him. That is WHO they are.

He has, Cecelia.

Posted by: Mike at September 13, 2007 6:26 PM

What, 30 seconds? Then he went straight to Obama bashing.

"What, 30 seconds? Then he went straight to Obama bashing."

As I said....he covered it. There is absolutely nothing Keith Olbermann could possibly do within reason to satisfy the likes of you, so why should he try?

I don't think Cecilia will be on anyone's short list of hostesses anytime soon.

I'm sure she has cleared many a room in her day.
Whew !

Posted by: Why don't you think at September 13, 2007 8:31 PM

Like you've ever been invited anywhere... :D

Mike, I'd settle for a canned NBC piece on the story.

At least that would involve more than Olbermann setting up the issue with a "everyone does it" context....and more than Chris Cizzilla pronouncing the story "not all that damaging" and making the WONDERFUL understatement that "850,000 dollars is not an insubstantial amount of money"....

Transcript:

OLBERMANN: On to the Democrats, the Hillary Clinton campaign now deal with the sort of trouble that makes anyone’s rivals smile with that knowing awareness it could happen to them at any moment. She has to give back nearly 900,000 dollars, has to by her own judgment, raised by Norman Hsu, this fugitive for years after he was convicted of swindling voters. He raised money from a long list of Democrats.

But how could it happen and how damaging has it been or is this a blip on the Clinton march?

CILLIZZA: Again, I go to that in a vacuum, I don’t think it’s all that damaging. But as a narrative it’s potentially damage for her. Everyone knows about the campaign finance irregularities in the Clinton administration. It’s one of lasting legacies of the Clinton administration. Hillary Clinton does not want—she wants to remind voters she was part of the Clinton administration for the balanced budget and peace at home and all those things. She doesn’t want to remind them that she was there for the Monica Lewinsky and the campaign finance troubles.

This reminds them of one of those things, so it’s not good. I think that’s wh