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Is it possible, just possible, that this entire O'Reilly/Sharpton/Sylvia's/Racism thing was cooked up to boost ratings? I'm not saying, but look at the trends. A narrowing gap last week, obliterated after the story came out. The chart is on the jump.
O'Reilly vs Olbermann Current Ratings
UPDATE: Here's a better link to the chart. As the folks at tvbythenumbers.com pointed out in the comments, this link will always have the current chart. My original post links to one specific day's chart. So, best advice, use this link. And, note, my "ratings ploy" idea doesn't seem to be panning out. Quite a nosedive for O'Reilly Tuesday.
Doug, I think you are reaching just a tad. What do you think Olbermann's (or MS-NBC) act has been for the last year+ with his "Bill-O" rants---a ratings ploy---good grief, even Olbermann has admitted to that.
Yes I would agree that Olbermann has some good points, but his, "mourning" Joe, and Dan Abrams' obsession with Bill O'Reilly is really becoming very boring and more importantly very very transparent to news viewers. I find it sad that CNN feels it needs to joing the fray. Juan Williams is a respected journalist, and once Al Sharpon goes on (and I assume) will agree (or side) will Bill O'Reilly, the others making a big stink out this will come off looking like the rating's whores.
Also, neither The Daily Show or The Colbert Report picked up this story, which gives me the impression it's not even ripe for satire (although, they may pick up on this after Sharpton's appeareance).
Before the typo-police come to arrest me, I'll fix 'em myself...
"CNN feels it needs to joing the fray"
CNN feels it needs to join the fray...
"Sharpon goes on..." Sharpton goes on
Oh, nevermind, move along Joe.
Actually, you should read the whole exchange between Juan and BillO. His sentence was taken entirely oout of context. Within the exchange he threw out the mildly ignorant statement, and now the 2nd and 3rd place networks are hoping their racist charges stick.
I'm glad this FEUD is happening. Media Matters have already been proven that they lied on the "Today" show this morning.
Billo will definitely win this one, because the Majority agrees with him on this. Bad move for MSNBC & CNN.
Redneck Proud, It would be appreciated if you would refrain from making the aap/o'lielly like comments i.e sexual references and the "f" bombs. They do enough of that, already. Thanks.
"Liberals are shallow. Look at Mike Lussy, O'Leilly, Slob, codas, BR, clucker. Just them having the time to post on this board shows "shallow loser" stamped on their foreheads."
????????
Oh wait, I get it now: .... 'Redneck' had his secretary make all those inflammatory posts on this board for him, because a 'winner' like himself simply wouldn't have had the time.
Of course, a cowardly anonyloon would accuse me of being someone else. You are dead wrong. But, I think you know that already. You're the typical loon who's only object of being here is to disrupt and make false accusations.
Put your money where your lying trap is, loon boon.
Jeff" "Put your money where your lying trap is loon boon"
I love it when somebody pulls your strings Jeff.
Look at yourself. Here you are coming unglued because someone has accused you of posting as somebody else.
It doesn't faze you that you spent months falsely accusing me of posting as almost everyone else. It doesn't matter that every time we turn on this blog, you're accusing somebody of being somebody else with absolutely zero evidence. Your own people have called you down for doing it, yet you continue....like the utter fool you are.
But let someone else do the same thing to you that you contantly do to others...and THEN you have a hissy fit!
You freakin hypocrite!
But
You are exaggerating, big time, mike. I didn't spend a "whole month" accusing you of being someone else. I light heartily made assumptions, big difference. Plus, most of the time I am right. I made reference ONE TIME you might be AAP and also one time you were clucker. You people all sound the same, some just have more hate than others, only difference. Patsy blows it way out of proportion on a regular basis as a simple diversion when I nail him using different names. Get over it. I now know you use only one name, I wasn't sure at first. I think you know I only use one name, too. It may be a little hypocritical on my part, I know. I admit it. Much more than you have ever done. I have caught you being a hypocrite at least 150 times. Just type mike/hypocrite. Enjoy!
"Your own people have called you down for doing it, yet you continue....like the utter fool you are."
Factually, untrue. Any proof? Nope.
Jeff, everyone who has read this blog over a period of time knows you just lied big time (again).
In addition to calling me AAP and Clucker, you called me a whole host of other names. You did it almost daily, and it went on for months. One time, you even accused me of being "every other liberal poster on this blog, except maybe bob". It got old, it got tiresome, and there was nothing "lighthearted" about it.
You can SAY you "caught me being a hypocrite 150 times" all you want, but it doesn't make it so. Why don't you just say you caught me 1000 times?....How about 5000 times?...It's all a lie anyway.
You're not smart enough to 'nail' anyone as a hypocrite...but you sure as hell have proven yourself to be one.
More opinion, no facts, nothing new. If I a was liar, I would have claimed "1000" times. I am not a liar, I claimed a number that I thought to be an honest guest, mike, 150 is close. The difference between me and you is clear, mike. You still haven't learned about using the word "everyone" have you, mike? How may times has it bit you in the ass? 15 or 20?
"every other liberal poster on this blog, except maybe bob".
Please, find this quote. We'll see who the liar really is, mike. Remember your many sermons on using quotes correctly? Practice what you preach, please.
Here, here, here, DUMBSHIT! I mean Bovine!
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOU!
You are exaggerating, big time, mike. I didn't spend a "whole month" accusing you of being someone else. I light heartily made assumptions, big difference. Plus, most of the time I am right. I made reference ONE TIME you might be AAP and also one time you were clucker. You people all sound the same, some just have more hate than others, only difference. Patsy blows it way out of proportion on a regular basis as a simple diversion when I nail him using different names. Get over it. I now know you use only one name, I wasn't sure at first. I think you know I only use one name, too. It may be a little hypocritical on my part, I know. I admit it. Much more than you have ever done. I have caught you being a hypocrite at least 150 times. Just type mike/hypocrite. Enjoy!
Posted by: royal king at September 26, 2007 8:43 PM
moron paranoid DUMBSHIT! I mean Bovine!
Re posting my post? No rebuttal? Trailer park trash talk? Shocker.
DUMBSHIT! I mean Bovine!
Rebuttal? Why? It is your admission.
"You people all sound the same, some just have more hate than others, only difference."
moron paranoid DUMBSHIT! I mean poor little sick Bovine!
Doug,
Thanks for the post linking our chart, but the link below will always have the latest O'Reilly vs. Olbermann chart at the top, and you don't have to hassle linking to individual posts/charts.
http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/ratings/oreillyvsolbermann/
Cheers,
Bill G
TVbythenumbers.com
Yup...OReilly sticking his foot in his mouth again about blacks actually being able to sit in a restaurant w/o causing a scene, is a winning comment in wingnutville !
You guys are hilarious !
Posted by: at September 27, 2007 12:47 AM
Can you post the actual quote? Just curious. I'll bet, not.
Jeff: "Can you post the actual quote? Just curious. I'll bet, not."
You mean you didn't hear it on the O'Reilly Factor?
RK, I agree with you totally.
There is no reason for the profanity and sexually (usually homosexual) vivid descriptions here.
There can not be an intellectual reason for it so it must be an attempt to preempt and disrupt conversation and debate here.
We do have some posters who intersperse political views ( ala SLOB) with the bottom feeding that they seem to be so fond of. Even that is repulsive to pick through to get to the kernel of the post.
And then we have what I think of as the SLUGS. They do nothing but leave a slimy trail wherever they go. These are Patsy and Laura Bush(in both sheit's many manifestations), Bill O'Lielly etc.
How do those of us looking for a forum of different ideas based on KO's rants and raves (Countdown) deal with this problem of dishonest brokers? I have no idea since the site's controller seems reluctant to institute any type of control, no matter how minor.
Grammie
Whatizname, based on your 8:50AM post you support and approve of the profanity and sexually vivid rhetoric that we see here in lieu of any intelligent discourse daily.
You just keep on supporting that filth for whatever reason you have that assuages your conscience.
You do realize, dear, that your talking point is outdated. Mean spirited hasn't been used by the A team for years now.
I must admit though that 'mean spirited' did evoke nostalgic memories for me. For that relief, great thanks.
Grammie
And now Jeff is saying he doesn't know OReilly's blunder that the whole country is talking about.
good stuff !
Posted by: Why don't you think at September 27, 2007 8:50 AM
No quote?
^ why do you hate Lisa Simpson....
philby, you're not sly. You're hate is transparent. BTW, the burdon of proof is on you, you brought up the Bill O quote, yet, you are too cowardly to post it. How come? Not all it's cracked up to be, is it?
At 2:26, we have this SAME idiot again claiming he knows who the posters are .... AGAIN.
Proof positive that retarded people just can't learn.
I'm right, lil mikey. I know it pains you. You should be happy she is back to defend your far left rhetoric. BTW, no time to prove cee wrong, but, you have time to make an ass out of yourself?
Jeffass again: "You should be happy she is back."
I don't know or care if "she" is back or not, and neither do you, but it amazes me how you keep making an total ASS out of yourself by claiming you have the clairvoyance to know who is posting as anons and with other names.
Even those on your own side are wondering why you keep doing this?
You mislabeled posts as being mine hundreds of times over a period of months...and you were WRONG every single time you did it. You were caught and chastised by those on your own side about a month ago...yet you still do it several times a day now, even after being exposed as a total fool many times.
Until I got on this blog, I wasn't fully appreciative that idiots like yourself even existed, and I guess that's exactly what fascinates me about your unrepentant repetitive ignorance.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/26/AR2007092602568.html?hpid=sec-artsliving
The WP does a fair job of explaining the "controversy".
O'Reilly was making some specious point (as usual) about hip hop culture not being reflective of life for African-Americans in general, and of course, now finds himself willfully quoted out of context by truth-seeking (NOT!) lefties.
nd Senator (R) Larry Craig is NOT GAY!
NOT GAY!
NOT GAY! NOT GAY!
Billdo O'Racist is not a pervert and neither is Senator (R) Larry Craig. OK!?
Posted by: Billdo O'Racist is NOT RACIST! NOT RACIST! NOT RACIST! at September 27, 2007 6:03 PM
Who needs context when you can type in all caps...
AAP (and all his multiple personalities need a serious "time out"
But, his peak is in his rearview mirror. He will continue to appeal to Republicans/conservatives, in fact the racist 50% of this group probably likes him even more. He'll still think he's in his salad days, ignoring the brown and wilting edges. It is a fitting punishment for him.
Posted by: at September 27, 2007 6:21 PM
O'Reilly is labeled a "racist" by his enemies for making the oh-so-controversal-and-profound point that gangsta pop culture does not really reflect the reality of African-American cuture, and this fool simultaneously argues that while O'Reilly is not consciously racist, he appeals to real racists because his enemies turn themselves into pretzels while making contorted arguments that he is a racist...
I suppose this makes O'Reilly very lucky in his enemies then....
Even those on your own side are wondering why you keep doing this?
posted by hypocrite mike
Can you name one? Oh, clairvoyant one?
think you've already washed down too many pretzels today Dingbat.
Posted by: at September 27, 2007 6:47 PM
Well, the pretzel comment wasn't directed at you.
You'd have to get a brain in order to contort it.
Until I got on this blog, I wasn't fully appreciative that idiots like yourself even existed, and I guess that's exactly what fascinates me about your unrepentant repetitive ignorance.
Posted by: Mike at September 27, 2007 5:01 PM
Until you got on this blog, I wasn't appreciative of the reality that mental contortionists, such as yourself, exist.
I still don't appreciate it...
Doug writes: "And, note, my "ratings ploy" idea doesn't seem to be panning out. Quite a nosedive for O'Reilly Tuesday."
Are you arguing that your theory that the controversy was an intentional O'Reilly ploy to get ratings, looks inaccurate now or are you saying that O'Reilly was unsuccessful in this alledged ploy?
Or did you just want to gig about O'Reilly's Tuesday ratings plunge?
Oh, tell us.... Mr. Media...
What a most unpleasant sort of woman you are. Are you from the Upper Midwest?
Posted by: at September 27, 2007 7:26 PM
You're from Texas, what does that make you? Automatically, right? Elaborate, please.
What a most unpleasant sort of woman you are. Are you from the Upper Midwest?
Posted by: at September 27, 2007 7:26 PM
No. Was your mother?
Cecelia: "Until you got on this blog, I wasn't appreciative that mental contortionists, such as yourself, exist.
I still don't appreciate it...."
So this blog is about mutual appreciation? Sorry, I didn't realize that.
Why is it that you just can't stand having a truce exist between us? ..... Or is it that 'I just gotta defend Jeff' complex rearing it's ugly head again?
No. Was your mother?
Posted by: Cecelia at September 27, 2007 10:11 PM
Lamest comeback of the month !
Posted by: Why don't you think at September 27, 2007 10:14 PM
Okay, so maybe his/her mother-in-law or Hillary Clinton is from the Upper Midwest... :D
Why is it that you just can't stand having a truce exist between us? ..... Or is it that 'I just gotta defend Jeff' complex rearing it's ugly head again?
Posted by: Mike at September 27, 2007 10:19 PM
umm.. because I never made a "truce" and don't know what the heck you mean by one...
You talk, I'll point out the flaws. You can return the favor if you're able... :D
Cecelia:
"You talk, I'll point out the flaws": So you LIKE Jeff's tactics? He does it out of sheer ignorance. I keep deluding myself into thinking you're a little better than that. Thanks for setting me straight again.
"You can return the favor if you're able... :D": No thanks! Sniping isn't my style.
You can return the favor if you're able... :D": No thanks! Sniping isn't my style.
Posted by: Mike at September 27, 2007 10:38 PM
No, pointing out flaws in logic isn't "your style"...
Although, hissy fits as seen in your responses with RK, is what mostly do here, I wouldn't call it "sniping".
Sniping suggests some precision.
"No, pointing out flaws in logic isn't "your style...": Spoken to one who's wife consider's his main flaw as being "excessively logical".
"Although hissy fits as seen in your responses with RK, is what mostly do here, I wouldn't call it "sniping.": True....how can you snipe at a sniper? .... Even one with notoriously poor aim.
"Sniping suggests some precision": Well, in that case, I guess that rules both you and Jeff out....Maybe troll would be a better word.
"how can you snipe at a sniper? .... Even one with notoriously poor aim."
"Spoken to one who's wife consider's his main flaw as being "excessively logical"."
Posted by: Mike at September 27, 2007 11:03 PM
Don't write Mike's wife off, folks, she could take a Logic course.
"Don't write Mike's wife off, folks, she could take a logic course."
She would probably have to go elsewhere to take it though. Around here, they might call on me to teach any courses in logical thinking, mostly due to my 20+ year career in.....logical thinking!
She would probably have to go elsewhere to take it though. Around here, they might call on me to teach any courses in logical thinking, mostly due to my 20+ year career in.....logical thinking!
Posted by: Mike at September 27, 2007 11:20 PM
Well, surely your wife may venture outside of your all's apartment at some point...
"Well, surely your wife may venture outside of your all's apartment at some point..."
Mostly she prefers to stay inside our villa while chatising me for being so logical.
Why is it that you just can't stand having a truce exist between us? ..... Or is it that 'I just gotta defend Jeff' complex rearing it's ugly head again?
Posted by: Mike at September 27, 2007 10:19 PM
She's not defending me, she's defending the truth. Just my observation.
"She's not defending me, she's defending the truth. Just my observation."
There really are "two Americas".
There's Jeff's "observation" of truth, ..... then there's the actual truth.
obsession with who posts under which name.
A true intellect, he's not !
Posted by: Why don't you think at September 27, 2007 11:54 PM
This bs coming from someone who has posted under at leats 50 names and counting. LOL! Nailed on every one, too.
Jeff: "Nailed on every one, too."
Carefull Why, Jeff's ouija board is never wrong about these things!
don't fall into the Bovine's and Phallu-Cee's illness.
ostly she prefers to stay inside our villa while chatising me for being so logical.
Posted by: Mike at September 27, 2007 11:32 PM
Pity. All she need do is meet one other person and she'd be off your back forever.
^ what mean thing to say. creep.
You little meanie, Cecelia! I guess the "anon" hasn't read very many of the person's posts whom she is defending. Or, those darn blinders she's wearing just won't her allow to see aything wrong or "mean" in mikes posts. Pity.......(*){*}[*}---------
Cecelia: "Pity. All she need do is meet one other person and she'd be off your back forever."
You had 20 hours to think of a comeback and THAT was the best you could do?
Sometimes, silence is golden.
Actually, in a way, my wife has already 'met' YOU. She laughs at your convoluted word twisting and inaccurate paraphrasing all the time.
But mostly, she just expresses astonishment that anyone like you would actually consider lowering herself into the sewer by coming to the defense of a lying, sniping, non-thinking troll like Jeff.
I toss off a bon mot, you call it silly, and then spend five paragraphs responding to it. :D
I understand how your wife might jump to a conclusion that I have lowered myself. It's only natural that she wouldn't want anyone else to make her mistake...
by coming to the defense of a lying, sniping, non-thinking troll like Jeff.
Posted by: Mike at September 28, 2007 10:20 PM
Ding!
"It's only natural that she wouldn't want anyone else to make her mistake..."
Admittedly closer to qualifying as a "bon mot" than your first quip, but close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
She'll tell you that her "mistake" was not lowering herself to my level sooner. Trust me, you'll never find that kind of satisfaction wallowing in the sewer with Jeff.
Cecelia, mike is the only one allowed to make "quips." No one else, but, him! More proof that he sure can make weak attempts at dishing it out, but, taking it? That's another story for another day.
She'll tell you that her "mistake" was not lowering herself to my level sooner. Trust me, you'll never find that kind of satisfaction wallowing in the sewer with Jeff.
Posted by: Mike at September 28, 2007 10:49 PM
Hey, if your wife gets off on self-abasement that's her business. Though it's not to my taste, to each his or her own...
"though it's not to my taste": I'm aware of that because you've already demonstrated your inexplicable attraction to bottom feeders by aligning yourself with Jeff.
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by coming to the defense of a lying, sniping, non-thinking troll like Jeff.
Posted by: Mike at September 28, 2007 10:20 PM
satisfaction wallowing in the sewer with Jeff.
Posted by: Mike at September 28, 2007
10:49 PM
bottom feeders by aligning yourself with Jeff.
Posted by: Mike at September 29, 2007 12:06 AM
Which gop actually said that? Got a name? Alterboy?