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Recently, Keith Olbermann has been crowing about his ratings "victories" over Bill O'Reilly. In fact, Olbermann and MSNBC will even crow over "near" victories.Never mind that O'Reilly was on vacation on one of the days that Olbermann claimed a "victory". But Olbermann only scored this victory in the "Live Plus" demo ratings. What is a demo you ask? Simple, it's viewers age 24-54, a viewing population highly coveted by advertisers. And "Live Plus"? That's the number of viewers who watch both live, as the program airs, PLUS the number of people who record the program on DVR's.
Naturally any network will claim the ratings set most favorable to them, and it is very clear that without those DVR numbers, Olbermann can't claim a "
But on the Sept. 7th Countdown, Olbermann claimed that it was these Live+SD ratings that advertisers used to place their ad buys, not the Live data. LIAR!
Spud at ICN breaks it all down for us here about what the difference between Live and Live Plus ratings are and what they really mean to advertisers.
As longtime readers have no doubt noticed, ICN has been noting the various controversies regarding traditional Live ratings vs. Live+SD ratings. Monday, the story took a new and unexpected twist when I heard from a top industry ad sales executive regarding ad buying. The executive said that all commercial time purchased through the end of September for cable news is based on Live ratings and not Live+SD ratings.
But let's go to the transcript of the Sept. 7th episode of Countdown to see what Keith Olbermann told his audience about what these ratings mean:
There are two ratings for each show. There's total audience and then there's the demo. Your audience of people aged 25 to 51. They're the ones the advertisers are trying to reach with those commercials. That demo number is the one advertisers use to decide whether or not to buy a commercial. People get hired and fired based on the demo. The difference is like the difference between the number of people who read a newspaper and the number of people who buy it. The buyers count. And that night Bill mentioned he had 440,000 buyers and we had 367,000 buyers. Last night, while Billy was whining about this, he was down to 396,000 buyers and we were up to 377,000 buyers. And we had more than he did for the first half hour.
One tiny problem with that claim, advertisers don't care how a show does in a quarter-hour or even half-hour. Secondly and most importantly, Olbermann was using the Live Plus dataset to try and claim a ratings victory on his Sept. 7th show!
Back to Spud at ICN:
Of the cable networks, FNC does not use Live+SD data to publicly benchmark its programming but MSNBC and CNN do (presumably, this also means CNBC and HLN do as well as both are sister networks of MSNBC and CNN respectively). But according to the ad exec, MSNBC and CNN are not selling by Live+SD. (Inquiries to CNN were not returned. An MSNBC spokesperson said they would get back to me but I did not hear back from them before this was published. However I did hear via another source that MSNBC is using Live data to sell advertising).
Got that people? In case you didn't, here it is again. MSNBC and CNN are not selling by Live+SD. OLBERMANN LIED TO HIS AUDIENCE!
More on how ad buys are placed:
A majority (around 75%) of cable and broadcast advertising is purchased well in advance in what are called up fronts. Up fronts run for a year. The current year's up fronts began last September and will expire in a couple of weeks and then next year's up fronts will kick in. This next year's up fronts will be based on a new time shifted standard that was agreed upon between all the broadcast and cable networks and advertisers and is called Live+3.
Olbermann fans have openly embraced the notion of Live+3 because they believe that this will give Olbermann's a ratings advantage. But there's a fly in the ointment:
There is an open question as to whether advertisers will really agree to ad rates based on Live+3 ratings for the cable news niche of the TV spectrum due to the low likelihood that DVR viewers would hang on to news programs past the first 24 hours in most instances, a scenario far more probable for TV dramas, comedies, and movies.
Again, unless you're an obsessed fan, intent on "archiving" Olbermann's every show, there aren't that many people who are going to want to watch three-day old news!
Back to Spud's excellent primer on how ad buys are really placed:
The remainder of the ads that weren't bought as part of up fronts are called Scatter and are divided up to be sold through each of the four quarters of the year. There's all sorts technical considerations involved with the ad rate negotiation process; so technical that I'm not going to attempt to break them down here. . . The fact that Live ratings were used for the up fronts this year and, presumably, last year means that the Live+SD ratings which have been bandied about have been relatively meaningless as a benchmark because they aren't what those nets have been using to charge for advertisements.
Got that? Live+SD ratings which have been bandied about have been relatively meaningless as a benchmark because they aren't what those nets have been using to charge for advertisements. But Olbermann claims it is. Again, OLBERMANN LIED!
It would be argued in some quarters that their importance is very significant for the future because time shifting in the ratings will be part of the next year's ad buys. But what concerns me and what's prompted this entry isn't the future. It's the past. Live+SD ratings have been used on blogs like TVNewser and elsewhere in the MSM and on TV going back nearly two years now in some cases. And that's the problem for me because those ratings apparently weren't being used as part of the ad buying process. They weren't used to negotiate the current year's up fronts. So why were they being used publicly as the benchmark when they weren't being used to contribute to the bottom line?
Let me take a wild guess here: Because without the use of Live+SD ratings, Olbermann's (fat) goose would be cooked. Spud thinks so too:
The likely answer seems to me to be PR. Live+SD ratings are frequently higher than Live ratings. Depending on the program and the day/time it aired the difference could be a few thousand (which technically would put the difference within Nielsen's own margin of error for ratings) or it could be twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, sixty thousand. Or higher. The higher, the better, because it would make a program look better on paper than what a net was really getting for it in advertising money via the Live ratings. And, in the cut throat world of cable news PR, having the highest number is key. It's a clever strategy.
And with Olbermann and MSNBC, and his Enablers, it's all about putting that lie out there and repeating it again and again and again until hopefully someone believes it. And Keith's easily misled fans fall for it, hook, line, and sinker.
The only problem arises if someone finds out the ratings being given out publicly aren't being used to charge for advertising. And charging for ads are what ratings are supposed to be used for.
It's all about the advertising people. Without it, networks die. And as Spud clearly documents here, the set of ratings being used by the likes of TVNewser and MSNBC, are LIES. Futhermore, Olbermann LIES about what they are used for and how they are used and what data set advertisers really use. And Olbermann's witless fans are dumb enough to believe it all, because Olbermann said it, just like they accept everything he says without question. Because Keith would never lie now would he? In the words of Chris Matthews: HA!
Why would advertisers care about who DVR/Tivo's Olbermann's show? Anyone who DVR/Tivo's a show is not going to sit through the comercials.
How many people actually watch the advertisements, when they are watching a re-run, of anyshow, they have recorded?
This is the fangirl response to Olbermann's crude remarks in Playboy, wishing his fangirls looked like J-Lo, but knowning they probably look like Leona Hemsley.
The fangirl "ode to olbermann" (get your barf bags ready):
A KO Fan's 9.5 Theses
http://bloggingolbermann.com/2007/09/a-ko-fans-95-theses/#comments
Thanks so much, sir, for your image of hundreds of rabidly horny Helmsleys. Like that won't haunt me some night.
Most of us mean it as a compliment and are not bunny-boiling psychos. I can appreciate that it can feel weird to feel looked at all the time. But we like you. We really like you. (It's sort of cool you occasionally look back, even if you're getting the wrong impression.)
There are reasons why I wouldn't give up two hours on Friday night to blog about Tim Russert. Some of them are shallow. Some of them are not. For one thing, all of those Sunday shows are like funerals and Countdown wel...isn't.
I'll never write one of those "concern troll" Why I Used To Love Keith Olbermann posts. People that do that are assholes.
Things I have learned a lot about thanks to your show: Writing better letters to the editor, using politeness to deflect idiots, baseball, and posting things on the internets. So, I think overall, being a fangirl has added, rather than subtracted from my life, and possibly even made me a better citizen.
Some of us fangirls are pretty cute, if not as supple as Ms. Lopez. We read and write a lot and it kind of shows in our physiques, but hopefully also in our piquant and spicy brains. As the great jurist Judith Shiendlin observed "beauty fades, dumb is forever."
Do you really think anyone posts about shagging Billo? I mean, aside from in the occasional fit of pique where one might type "fuck Bill O?Reilly!" though I don't get the feeling that anyone really would. Your younger, estrogen-rich fanbase must really chap his ass.
What can I say? Intellectual womenfolk have been looking for a pin-up since the Duchovny era ended, and you got drafted. You're not refusing to serve, are you? You, sir, are fake boyfriend Grey Poupon, a little bit of a status thing for the lucky woman that gets how hot you are. I hardly think I need to explain to you the appeal of being smarter than everyone else. Don't deprive us of our secret handshake.
You're cute, dude. Uh, I mean sir. Try to be gracious. After all, it's not only democracy that made us stay up till all hours for election results.
Oh, and the .5? You really love Dan, don't you? I like it that y'all are sports guys, but not afraid to be really close without slugging each other.
posted by Chicating on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 @ 6:34 pm
I know that the reknowmed journalist Keith Olbermann said that FOX was worse than the KKK, but do you think that someone could get Keith to say that FOX is worse than me? I hate being thought of as the worst and I would sure appreciate it if someone with a reputation for speaking the truth would help me out a little bit, ya know?
From Jason Whitlock, FoxSports:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7219146
8. While I'm on the subject of broadcast teams, could someone please break up NBC's Sunday Night Football studio show?
Wow! Michael Irvin is probably sitting at home blazing a phat one thinking, "Hell, on my worst day off the wagon, I could improve that show."
Seriously, by midseason, the studio show should be trimmed to Bob Costas, Cris Collinsworth and Tiki Barber. Keith Olbermann, Jerome Bettis and Peter King just don't work.
Olbermann is trying too hard to be clever, and it's not working. He blamed Tom Coughlin for something Jim Fassell did. Bettis freezes up every time he tries to say something insightful. I don't need King to tell me who he just got off the phone with and how they told him the exact same thing they would've told an NBC intern. (And for the record, I love Olbermann as a broadcaster, Bettis as a football player and King as a sports writer.)
NBC has created a hot, jumbled mess. If I see one more shot of the back of Collinsworth's head as he talks to Costas, I'm going to go on a total rampage against this show. The little "players' lounge" puts Collinsworth in the role of eliciting insightful comments from two guys — Bettis and Barber — who aren't near as clever or ballsy as Collinsworth.
From RADAR online:
• Countdown meltdown: Keith Olbermann in the October Playboy: "Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda—worse for our society. It's as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was." Didn't he say that about SportsCenter once, too?
From 411mania.com
http://www.411mania.com/politics/columns/59718/Story-Time-with-E-9.13.07:-Osama-bin-Laden-%E2%80%93-Republican-or-Democrat?.htm
"Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda — worse for our society. It's as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was."
Christ. I'd say he's a pussy, but I wouldn't want to disparage the human vagina by associating it with Keith Olbermann.
yeah, it makes no sense for advertisers to use that system cause everybody will fast forward past commercials. So potentialy (but unlikely) it is possible for olbermann to have more viewers in the demo, but his adtime would be cheaper cause nobodies watching the commercial.
Even when Dick Durbin compared the treatment of prisoners at Gitmo to the gulags under Stalin and to the torturous practices of other regimes such as Pol Pot, all reasonable people expressed outrage and Durbin had to apologize for such an outrageous claim.
Now Olbermann makes the even more irresponsible claim that FOX is worse than al Qaeda and the KKK. And people brush this off as acceptable discourse from a "newsman" and a "journalist"? What's going on? My opinion is that Olbermann has been almost universally recognized as a nut job so no one is shocked or surprised by such antics, so nothing is said. In the alternative, Olbermann is such a lightweight and his ratings are so skimpy that he flies below the radar is virtually ignored.
Olbermann is such a lightweight and his ratings are so skimpy that he flies below the radar is virtually ignored.
Posted by: hank at September 13, 2007 3:18 PM
which is why his professional career is expanding ...as we speak.
The only lightweight here are the Olbyhaters. Keith is doing just fine.
So do you go into his stall to blow him or does he come into yours?
Olbermann is such a lightweight and his ratings are so skimpy that he flies below the radar is virtually ignored.
Posted by: hank at September 13, 2007 3:18 PM
which is why his professional career is expanding ...as we speak.
The only lightweight here are the Olbyhaters. Keith is doing just fine.
Posted by: at September 13, 2007 3:28 PM
The only thing expanding is his waistline & ass. Hank makes a good point, this guy is still pretty much under the radar, but a few more Sunday Night Football "fumbles" are begining to cure that. Soon he will be held to the same "fire" as others.
So basically, the advertisers balk at shelling out extra $$$ for time on "Countdown", under the theory that people who record shows are either going to zoom through the commercials or never watch the thing at all. Since Keith didn't have any problem last Sunday naming 77,000 people in Giants Stadium as "Worst Person in the NFL", I suppose he can name every employee at all the major advertising agencies and corporations as WPIW tonight, for their failure to be willing to shell out money for spots on "Countdown" despite Olby's bragging about his "Live Plus" ratings.
(Or if not WPIW, maybe Keith can bring on a guest advocating government control of TV advertising buys, so highly educated bureaucrats can direct ad monies to the proper programs.)
The only way Uberdouche can defeat Bill O'Reilly/Fox News in the ratings is by changing the rules. Live Plus, quarter-hour numbers when Bill is on vacation? What a freakin' loser!
Anonymous says: "Keith Olbermann is correct in almost everything he says."
You are high on drugs. How about this choice quote from Olbermann:
"Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda--worse for our society. It's as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was"
Or his history of falsely comparing people he doesn't like to "Nazis" or supporting them.
It has been well documented on this site that Olbermann has used completely unsupported claims of Nazism to smear those whom he does not agree with or cable TV news competitiors who are more successful than he is.
Olbermann's sordid history in this regard dates back to 1998 when he was host of something called the Big Show. Unable to muster substantive arguments to register his reservations about the work that Ken Starr was doing in his investigation of the Clinton's (as he was directed to do by Attorney General Reno), Olbermann suggested that Starr could be compared to one of history's most notorious and murderous Nazis.
Here is the relevant quote from Olbermnann on August 18, 1998:
"Can Ken Starr ignore the apparent breadth of the sympathetic response to the President?s speech? Facially, it finally dawned on me that the person Ken Starr has reminded me of facially all this time was Heinrich Himmler, including the glasses. If he now pursues the President of the United States, who, however flawed his apology was, came out and invoked God, family, his daughter, a political conspiracy and everything but the kitchen sink, would not there be some sort of comparison to a persecutor as opposed to a prosecutor for Mr. Starr?"
Then in July, 2006, Olbermann unleashed Nazi attacks again, this time against O'Reilly, the target of Olbermann's almost nightly fits of jealousy with his spurious WPITW attacks.
The whole story of Olbermann's FALSE "O'Reilly supports Nazis" accusations can be found here:
http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2006/07/olbermann_defen.php
However, to sum it up, Olby appeared at a Television Critics of America meeting and held a paper cut out of O'Reiily's face over his own and flashed the Seig Heil salute, implying that O"Reilly is a Nazi or sympathizes with them. This, of course, like many of Olbermann's nutty attacks, is the discourse of a desperate, attention seeking hack with a severe anti-social personality disorder (thus the multiple times that he has been fired and the fact that few people who have worked with him in the past have any desire to associate with him).
Anyway, Olbermann went on Leno's show several days later and was aksed about this incident by Leno. At first Olberman attempted to make some nauseating joke about the fact that he had publicly flashed a gesture symbolizing the worst kind of fear and terrror for Jews and others who were victims of the Holocaust. He laughed about it and said he was just trying to say "yoo-hoo" to somebody. When that joke went flat, he tried to disingenously claim that O'Reilly "supported Nazis". Go to the link I have cited above and you will find a complete explanation of how low and completely ridiculous this charge against O'Reilly is.
Finally the Anti-Defamation chided Olbermann for his use of the Seig Heil salute:
"your repeated use of the Nazi salute has resulted in many complaints from our constituents, including Holocaust survivors and their families who find the use of this gesture offensive and repugnant in any context…We believe that the use of gestures and imagery associated with the Nazis – even in jest – only serves to trivialize the Holocaust and denigrate the memory of the six million Jews and others who died as a result of Hitler’s Final Solution.”
Of course, per usual, Olbermann completely ignored the ADL's concerns.
from CBS news:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/13/politics/purehorserace/main3258174.shtml
The ad will air on MSNBC, where “Countdown” host Keith Olbermann has gained a progressive following with his commentaries castigating the president on Iraq. And the campaign is tying it to a fund-raising pitch. On Edwards Web site, an appeal reads, “Buying this kind of airtime is expensive, but we believe that President Bush's address must be countered with a strong voice in opposition to the failed policies that have kept our troops in harm's way for far too long.”
Whether it’s expensive or not (the AP quotes industry experts estimating the cost between $100,000 and $150,000), the ad will reach more voters than just those watching the coverage tonight. After all, we’re writing about it aren’t we?
--Vaughn Ververs
From the September 12 edition of CNN Headline News' Glenn Beck:
KURTZ: Look, I'm not -- look. Keith Olbermann is somebody who interviews people and spouts off on cable and has had some success doing it. And I think he's very talented. But I think those comments -- Al Qaeda, Ku Klux Klan -- are so over the top, it's just beneath him. It's beneath the kind of erudition I would expect from him.
BECK: Do you -- do you even understand what he was talking about?
KURTZ: I think the argument that I've heard Olbermann make in the past about Fox News -- it's not an argument that I embrace -- is that, because it poses as a news organization and puts out dangerous misinformation --
BECK: But that's what he's doing!
KURTZ: -- and is -- is a cheerleader for the Bush administration, that it's misinforming our society. But you know what?
BECK: Howard --
KURTZ: They're entitled to do that.
BECK: Let me ask you this question. Who makes you weep more for journalism: Keith Olbermann or me? That's quite a question.
KURTZ: I think you both have plenty of opinions and are both paid to spew them on the airwaves.
BECK: At least I admit it. Howard, thank you very much.
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sorry, this is from the whiners at media matters:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200709130004?f=h_latest
Olbermann watch has to be one of the most hilarious sites on the internet. Getting into such a shrill, baby-bat-voiced tizzy over one guy, simply because he doesn't believe in exactly what you think or feel, and isn't in lock-step with the administration. Awesome satire.
Wait... you mean it?
Oh god, you poor children.
Another fine expose of Olby's lies. Did anyone have a doubt that MSDNC was capable of such outright misrepresentation? If you did, then you must be an Olbyloon. Spin, Olby, spin!
So Chris. . . how does it feel to be a fan of a man who lies to his audience? Not just once mind you, pretty much with each and every episode. How does it feel to be a fan of a guy who doesn't provide both sides of a story, only his own little warped viewpoint? Does that make a journalist in your case? Because let me tell you, I'm a liberal and I think Olbermann is totally full of shit and an insult to journalism and journalists, real journalists everywhere. The same things that people rip into Fox for are the same exact things that Olbermann does. I never believed in media bias until I began to observe how Olbermann gets away with murder and his stupid fans, and sorry, but you are an absolute idiot if you believe a single thing this idiot has got to say, believe everything he does say, even when he's been proven wrong again and again and again. And using the tired old worn out excuse, "But Fox does X" doesn't cut it anymore. Let's say a Democrat is elected in 2008 and given the Dems ability to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory, that's a big fucking IF. I know I"m not excited about a single candidate at this point and I know I'm not alone in that opinion. My friends tell me the same thing. Okay so say a Dem is elected. Will Keith be critical of THEM when they fuck-up (note I said when, not if. If is a given with EVERY president). Or will it be one rah-rah-rah session after another, sort of like what is heard on the opinion shows of a certain network just hated by liberals. . .Fox News. Olbermann is the liberal Fox and O'Reilly and that is no compliment. Keep deluding yourself fanboi. Maybe one day you'll realize why there's an entire website devoted to what an idiotic asshole this guy is.
You're not kidding anyone. A "Liberal" did not write the 8:07 post.
Expect the ratings argument to get further muddled. Advertisers bought a lot of time for the 2007-2008 season on Live +3 commercial ratings (known a C3 in the industry), so Olby will be touting higher audiences more often based on C3 nuggets.
Speaking of sportscasters and carnival barkers, Olby and the Wolffeman are spinning the speech.
I called MSNBC today and requested a list of sponsors for the Olbyloon Countdown time slot. The guy asked if I was interetsed in advertising then. I let him know tha I would NEVER advertise there and wanted the list for starting a Boycott on the Internet. He quickly gave me a New York number and hung up. It was a wrong number.
On the Internat, I did find out that Marianne Gambelli is named NBC President, NBC add network sales for all the NBC network units including sports, MSNBC and all of it, as well as the regional sales offices in Chicago, Detroit, and Los Angeles. Will try to find out more and inform you.
Thanks Juan for the update.
Jaun, tell them you're a (d), you support Hillary and you are interested in advertising. You'll have 'em foaming!
Juan the Neo-Con obviously has a problem with both freedom of speech as well as the freedom of Americans who do not hold his views to watch whom they choose.
But hey, that explains why he is a neocon. The only freedom they actually believe in is the freedom to agree with them.
Mike,
About the only people in this country whose freedom of speech is in peril are
conservatives at a college campus.
Well, Keith didn't really lie. He said advertisers focus on the demo. Which they do.
"About the only people in this country whose freedom of speech is in peril are conservatives at a college campus."
While I think that issue is being overblown, it is undeniable that the majority of people attracted to a career in academia are liberals.....and that is your real problem at college campuses if you happen to be a conservative who feels outnumbered and repressed.
Rico, mike won't acknowledge the existence of the far left stifling conservative speech with physical force all over the US on college campuses. For one, he probably doesn't even know it happens, getting his news from Olbyonesidedkanobie.
Rico....One of the problems on this board is whenever a reasonably intelligent and civil discussion DOES happen to occur on this board, Jeff comes along and injects something stupid and divisive.
In Feb. 2005, liberal students and alumni at San Francisco State University shouted down conservative author David Horowitz, who appeared at the university at the request and on the dime of College Republicans.
In Dec. 2005 Ann Coulter, admittedly a lightning rod, was shouted down at the University of Connecticut.
In Oct. 2006, members of the Minutemen (volunteers who patrol the U.S.-Mexico border) were shouted down while speaking at Columbia Univeristy.
In Dec. 2006, Rep. Tom Tancredo had a speech disrupted at Michigan State University when left-wing protesters pulled fire alarms.
The examples go on and on... For some interesting reading, check out this piece at City-Journal.org
Mike,
If you don't know that conservatives are oppressed, and not just a minority, on college campuses it's because you don't want to know. Conservative publications are confiscated by left wing loonies, right wing speakers are shouted down, etc. That's un-American.
Regarding saying "something stupid and divisive", both you and I have done that very thing on OW. Maybe not as much as others, but we have done so. It's no fun if you can't piss somebody off, after all!
Our President gave a GREAT Speech. It's good to see the dems floundering!!
Jeff, I don't condone anyone shouting down anyone, but what do you propose to do about it? Pass new laws?
All the examples you cited appear to be individuals taking it upon themselves to be disruptive.
That said, I admit that even I would have a difficult time being silent while Ann Coulter spewed her vile opinions in my presence.
Rico....One of the problems on this board is whenever a reasonably intelligent and civil discussion DOES happen to occur on this board, Jeff comes along and injects something stupid and divisive.
Posted by: Mike at September 13, 2007 10:19 PM
Rico, another problem is RK's ability to hypnotize some liberals on this board into incessantly responding to him even as they complain about his presence here.
"Our president gave a GREAT speech."
Oh good! Is it over? Now I can turn back from the comedy channel.
"Rico, another problem is RK's ability to hypnotize some liberals on this board into incesstantly responding to him even as they complain about his presence here."
At least you admitted Jeff is a problem.
"Rico, another problem is RK's ability to hypnotize some liberals on this board into incesstantly responding to him even as they complain about his presence here."
At least you admitted Jeff is a problem.
Posted by: Mike at September 13, 2007 10:42 PM
Yeah, the power RK wields over you could be devastating in the wrong hands...
"yeah, the power RK wields over you could be devasting in the wrong hands..."
Well, it's interesting that you see it that way. I don't. I see Jeff as nothing more than a hopelessly brainwashed right wing synchophant who would still defend his president if he were caught eating his own young. My responses are nothing more than a mixture of laughter and utter disbelief at what I am reading.
"Our president gave a GREAT speech."
Indeed, he did. He read all the speech-writers' words without mangling another attempted analogy. Later, he'll eat all his veggies too, like a good boy.
I hope "our president" Juan wasn't referring to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Unless we're in ad sales or running our own commercial networks, the on-going ratings pissing contest is pretty pointless.
... or Hugo Chávez.
Why,
These people are pathological. Nothing Bush says - no matter how illogical; how linguistically garbled; how childishly binary; or how self-contradictory in regard to statements he's made himself five years or five minutes previously - can be criticized to any degree without the critic being labeled a terrorist lover. It is categorically a cult with a living man as its infallible fetish.
If Phari-cee is right about anything at all, then it is the fact that this idolatry will earn him a long stay in Hell. Maybe they need doctors there.
The highest patriotism is not a blind acceptance of official policy, but a love of one's country deep enough to call her to a higher plain.
"childishly binary"
I'm keeping this one for future use.
I prefer my two-bit presidents to address the country in eight-bit prose.
EVERY ONE of the DEMOCRATS voted to confirm General Petreus. EVERY ONE.
The President has said that he will listen to his General (the one DEMS picked and DEMS voted to confirm) on the ground. Osama Bin Laden's latest tape orders us out of Iraq.
The Dems now want to follow the advice of Osama.
I'll side with the General DEMS VOTED for-
the Libs are sticking with the terrorists.
Funnt, I thought all DEMs were LIBs in Foxland.
It is funnt...
now, address the substance:
The President says listen to the General,
Dems say listen to Osama.
Petreaus is a loyal American, unfortunately placed in a role with few resources to be truly successful. He was one of the few generals left that W. already didn't fire (when he didn't agree with the their reports from the ground).
How many generations of generals have we had in that post now, six... seven, now?
"Dems say listen to Osama."
Source?
Um, yeah. You substance abuse is showing.
If you can manage to put the pipe down long enough, how about supplying that source?
"Dems say listen to Osama."
Source?
um... how 'bout daily transcripts from BOTH the dem leadership AND OBL tapes
OBL: US OUT OF IRAQ
DEMS: US OUT OF IRAQ
Theres your source
Liberals would rather follow the advice of a sworn enemy of the nation than the advice of one who has sworn to defend this nation.
truly sad
Ah yes, the same DEMs that confirmed Petreaus?
Please put the pipe down, for your own sake.
George McGovern..........
You are the one who started your party down the path of dingbattery. It's all your fault.
Dems for Petreaus:
By that definition, I guess that makes liberals patriots.
The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
"Ah yes, the same DEMs that confirmed Petreaus?"
Yes. The DEMS picked him. The DEMS voted to confirm him. The DEMS said they would listen to him.
The DEMS lied. What else is new?
"So we should follow our leader when he is completely wrong and has been for years?"
No. You should follow the military leaders who are on the ground. The one that the DEMS picke and the DEMS voted to confirm.
What is so hard about this?
OBL says LEAVE.
DEM'S GENERAL says STAY.
Now, DEMS say LEAVE.
Way to go, libs.
"You are the one who started your party down the path of dingbattery. It's all your fault."
Whew! That's the first one today that wasn't my fault!
Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism - how passionately I hate them!
Hey Bubba,
I would never blame everything on you. In fact, you did a pretty good job working with the Newt Gingrich Congress, much better than any other Democrat would have dared to attempt.
Thank you Rico, from my ever-centrist's heart.
How's my NAFTA plan going nowadays?
Forget your stupid ideologically driven POLITICS people...
Islamic militants want to KILL YOU. We know this, because they have told us and have done it. A lot.
The general on the ground says lets stay.
The Islamaist say GO.
Why would you side with the people who want to kill you? Do you think they will like you if we leave? Are you that stupid?
Hey Bubba,
I'm not really a fan of NAFTA. But let me compliment you some more. When you bombed Saddam back in 1998, and others were calling it a "wag the dog" operation, I supported you to the hilt. My philosophy was "If my country is bombing Saddam, I'm happy. I don't need a reason". I even let it slide that you couldn't do better than a chubby Jewish valley girl.
Gee, a significant number of American people have wanted us out of Iraq long before the OBL video came out. Who says OBL isn't exploiting that for added derision? Interesting timing on that tape's release, btw.
"I even let it slide that you couldn't do better than a chubby Jewish valley girl."
*heh*
Nice, Rico.
Anyway, everyone knows Jewish girls give the best hummers.
It's a shame we can't fight the Christian militants over there too.
"Who says OBL isn't exploiting that for added derision?".....
Who says OBL isn't manipulating public opinion with reverse psychology because he WANTS us to keep beating our collective heads against the wall in Iraq?
Again, the DEMs confirmed one of the few remaining qualified generals who'd agree to take that dubious post.
Do your truly believe he's not annoyed by W's hand upoking him in the ass though this?
"It's a shame we can't fight the Christian militants over there too."
I'm hard-pressed to remember a more assinine comment as this one.
This is the problem with the libs- to them, Islamic militants BEHEADING journalists and BOMBING children's day care centers are the same as Christians in the United States.
Keep it up, libs- you and MoveOn practially GUARANTEE a republican victory in 2008!
I am a Christian, and it distresses me too that our government seems to be overtaken by heretics. Now you tell me, who would Jesus hate?
"This is the problem with the libs- to them, Islamic militants BEHEADING journalists and BOMBING children's day care centers are the same as Christians in the United States.
Keep it up, libs- you and MoveOn practially GUARANTEE a republican victory in 2008!"
Well, I think you just topped it, genius.
Rudy's ad is posted at Politico. Laura Ingraham's new book is #1 at Amazon (Clinton's #2.) Kos Kids and all the other Moonbats are going nuts over Harry Reid's response to our President's speech.
Good week for the Elephants!!!
12:34 AM,
I said Christian militants, not Christians as a whole.
I hope you don't equate all Muslims with Islamic militants too.
That would be asinine.
12:34 AM,
I said Christian militants, not Christians as a whole.
I hope you don't equate all Muslims with Islamic militants too.
That would be asinine.
I couldn't help but say to [Mr. Gorbachev], just think how easy his task and mine might be in these meetings that we held if suddenly there was a threat to this world from another planet. [We'd] find out once and for all that we really are all human beings here on this earth together.
Stupid, liberal Reagan.
"Rudy's ad is posted at Politico. Laura Ingraham's new book is #1 at Amazon (Clinton's #2.)"
Proof that you people will buy anything.
... also proof that these folks are too scared or ill-equiped to school their own kids. heh... a book for parents from a woman who has no kids of her own. Hilarious.
Me and Elvis liked to have doctors without formal training give us prescriptions. Big woop.
Parenting tip: change the channel or turn off your tv altogether.
Then again, what purpose would this site serve then?
Doc, keep your toe-tapping to your side of the stall please.
Thanks.
Then again, what purpose would this site serve then?
Posted by: Dr. Spock at September 14, 2007 1:07 AM
None at all. That's why you're suggesting that we do.
Go in peace....
*heh*
Touché.
Here's the thing. Olbermann and his supporters , all virulent Bush-haters, have zero credibility. Why? Because they have hated and maligned him since before he took the oath of office. This obsessive hatred has precluded them from making rational criticisism of any of his policys, including his war policy. Really. For example, SLOB and Mike hold views that are meaningless, their blinding hatred of Bush has rendered them irellevant . That's why they can post a thousand gripes from now until Hell freezes over, and will not change a single mind. Poor hate-filled useless, worthless crybabies.
Can anyone here give me a list of he 36 countries currently on the ground in Iraq, as the president mentioned in his speech tonight?
I'm having a tough time counting more than 36 soldiers outside U.S. and U.K. forces.
I doubt any rational argument made here counter to your views will fetch any serious consideration. That's not completely the fault of the Olbyloons; but it's not the intent of this site either, I think.
I don't hate W., but I have felt sorry for him years before the circus took him to D.C., even met him a couple times before he was governor of Texas. We've had far more capable men in the Oval Office.
Yeah, I hate the Nixon-era survivors who have finally fashioned the government in the fashion they wanted back then.
"Plumbers" breaking into the Dem's office at Watergate is a drop in the bucket compared to the corruption we're forced to endure today.
Dude,
That's a lot of "fashion" going on there in your post, but I think I get your drift.
"Brrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiinnnns!!!"
12:34 AM,
This may blow your mind, but some liberals are Christians.
I'm one of them.
Please consider painting your opinions with a narrower brush.
Hush, you liberal Christian!
Just be the scapegoat we want you to be!
http://www.ifilm.com/video/2894606
Someone at NBC Sports needs to throw together a "Leave Keith Alone" video to play every time he gets razzed for saying something stupid during the NFL telecasts.
Fuzzy Math: Chris Matthews, is that you?
Did anyone see Mike Huckabee on MSNBC after the speech last night? I wonder if Olby got hives because he had to ask a question to a conservative Republican who didn't parrot Olbyspin. I like Huckabee as a candidate more and more by the week.
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=18044622
Rudy's ad is posted at Politico. Laura Ingraham's new book is #1 at Amazon (Clinton's #2.) Kos Kids and all the other Moonbats are going nuts over Harry Reid's response to our President's speech.
Good week for the Elephants!!!
Posted by: Juan, the Neo-Con at September 14, 2007 12:42 AM
That's right; Aim low and you will not be disappointed.
Pukes SLOB:
"That's right; Aim low and you will not be disappointed.'
END QUOTE
You should know because you are looking up at us all the from your viewpoint LOSER.
here's the deal, guys: check out the commercial rates for countdown vs. freakfactor for the first week of october. not privvy to them? i'm sure billyboy can get them for you. i doubt advertisers are paying more money for fewer targeted viewers. face it: o'freako lost where it counts most for murdoch...$$$
Pisses Bought Stupidity:
"face it: o'freako lost where it counts most for murdoch...$$$"
END QUOTE
Wake up Alice, this aint Wonderland.
Dear Chris and Keith,
I had my staff record various news programs so I could see the responces to my speach last night. When I got to MSNBC I thought my staff had inadvertently slipped in a tape of Cartoon Planet.
Chris, I was impressed with the analogy of my speach by comparing it to a Peanuts cartoon where Lucy "let the ball fall over" before Charlie Brown kicked it. Chris, you dumb fuck, you can't even get that right. Lucy snatched the ball, she didn't let it fall over. Only a limp wristed faggot would let the ball fall over. That's a big difference. Just like me. I've kicked the liberals in the nut sack once again and I have discredited your reporting once again. Dry up up you fucking baby loser. Talk about your slack jaw faggots. I'm sure your mommy made sure you got your share of Peanut cartoons as a child and your major upbringing got no farther out from your snadbox that you could step out and keep one of your big toes dangling inside. While most kids were learning to hunt and fish little Chrissy grew up under a feminine upbringing. Who are you to question the most pwerfull man in the world you pussy?
Now, you, Olbyfuck. It's hard for me to not bust a gut looking at your silly, cartoon face. In fact, when they make a Peanuts remake with live people like the did with Dennis the Menace, you can be Lyonus. You sir, are a pussy and you use your flame throwing as a security blanket. You have to keep your gums bumping so we can't see all those facial expressions that would make an Exorcist flinch and your gag like reflexes that Barney "The Fag" Frank learned to quell in his early teens after chugging his 100th cock. You and Chris look like a couple of fags at a wake for Rock Hudson last night. You know, the Rock that likes to suck Cock, your hero. I wonder what Dorris Day thinks about the Rock today.
I won. Get back in yur sandbox.
Your Commander in Chief,
President George W. Bush
Craps Fuzzy Logic:
"I'm having a tough time counting more than 36 soldiers outside U.S. and U.K. forces."
END QUOTE
No surprise there. You are the result of a fucked up school system from years of liberal policies and unions.
Here's one for ya loser, the US ranks near 30 in reding, math and science skills for 12th grade.
I had a coop work for me last summer, a senior engineering student from UNCC. I had a chart to balance a high speed tool by positioning counter balances. I told him to write an equation by using the end points from the chart in Excel so we could interpolate points in between. He couldn't so it. WTF.
You know why teachers and unions hate No Child Left Behind? It holds them to standards. Every year teachers are caught letting kids cheat on SAT's. AS an engineer, I am given about 10 projects per year. Each has a set of standards, quantitave and qualitative. If I don't meet them I get a bad rating and that results in less of a raise. But hell no, we shouldn't let some teacher be held to a standard. They are good at belching their liberal beliefs. We the results today, young punks who are dumb as shit, athesist and little chicken shits with their "Know Fear" stickers.
You an AAP are perfect examples.
Poseted by anonymous:
"Well, I think you just topped it, genius."
END QUOTE
Wow, a real logical response to a republican victory in 08. We already see panic in the liberal media now that the realization is starting to sat in that nobody can beat Hillary for the liberal nomination for Pres and she can not beat Rudy or Fred. Look at how Lieberman won. Ray Nagin murdered 1200 people with his incompetency and got re-elected by people who claim GW blew up the levees. The mayor of Detroit is still millions from the city of Detraq and he gets re-elected. Ted Kennedy is a murderer and has a nephew who ran the shaft of a golf glub through a girls head so far that when he pulled the shaft out of her head it pull hair from one side of her head through the hole till it exited the other side and Teddy gets re-elected. Robert Byrd hung and beat balck men and he gets re-elected.
No who is the genuis you dumb fuck.
Now who is the fucking genius.
Here's a good example of a neocon lie:
WASHINGTON (AP) - The nation's top intelligence official on Wednesday recanted his claim that new surveillance powers recently given to the U.S. government helped foil a terrorist plot in Germany.
"Information contributing to the recent arrests was not collected under authorities provided by the Protect America Act," Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell said in a statement issued Wednesday.
However, McConnell told the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee on Monday that powers granted by the new Protect America Act helped stopped the planned attacks.
Congress hastily adopted the law, which amended the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act under strong pressure from McConnell and the White House just before lawmakers went on vacation in early August.
The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee had disputed McConnell's version of the facts on Tuesday.
Rep. Silvestre Reyes, D-Texas, said the intelligence used to capture the would-be terrorists was collected under the old version of the surveillance law, not the new.
"In fact, FISA, which you repeatedly claim is 'outdated,' was precisely the tool that helped disrupt this plot," Reyes said. "The new law did not lead to the arrests of the three terrorist plotters, as you claimed."
http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=116&sid=1246545
Just curious baldheadedrat. If you were on top of the Trade Center the morning of 9/11 and as the fire starting burning the skin off the cheeks of your fatass and the top of that baldhead just befofre you jumped, would you holler down and bitch about the sidewalk not being swept clean just before you burst your guts all over it like a water balloon.
You know you have to be one super dumb partisan asshat to bitch about our gornement trying to protect us. You can bet if you or anyome in your family were killed by a terrorist attack you and Mike Lussy would be the first to whine about our goverment not doing enough.
You are irrelevant. You afre not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Your opposition gives our enemies hope, strength, resolve and the will to fight. Your allies are Rosie O'Donnell, Whoopi, Sarandon, Robbins, Mike Moore, Olbyfuck, Sean Penn. Hell, you may be our chanse at victory. We can stick you ugly fucks out front and kill the terrorist with laughter.
Poor Red Neck,
She whines about not giving enough information to an intern to fit a set of points to a curve and yet ignores all of the points in between current events...
She ignores the fact that Bush helped arm the terrorists...
She ignores the fact that Cheney helped support Saddam...
She ignored the fact that the biggest Al Qaeda supporters are Bush's allies...
She ignored the fact that Cheney's ol' buddies have ripped off the military for tens of millions, by the Pentagon's admission...
She ignores the fact that Bush had no reason to invade Iraq...
She'd ignore what ever Bush did if she were told to. She is a good dog!
buyer
if you were in the biz your name would not be buyer. it would be traffic, which is where you would work, purchasing spots for clients, or ae because you were a client rep.
second. companies don't publish ad rates for other companies. this is one of the dumbest things i have ever seen written on this board.
if want a broadcasters rates call them and ask for time. then call the other and ask the same. of course, mr ad man since you are so wired in i am sure you can negotiate a discount rate by packaging buy for non prime time buys.
douchenozzle
Nothing better than a good constitutional first thing in the morning.
Good to see the garden will benefit from the compost Redneck and buyer have provided it. Unfortunately for them, that's the only place their uh... "wisdom" will have a positive impact.
What a self absorbed jerk this Red neck proud character is!
After reading your comments, I doubt you can count to 36, even with the aid of your Polydactyly hands and feet.
I'll make it easy for you: just name half the countries, 18 of them. At least you should be able to track that number using your available fingers and toes, not even counting the extra digits.
Of course, you did nothing to address the original question, instead attacking the person asking it. Your mama woul be proud.
But since you raised the point about education (using a litany of fallacies in the process), I'd like to address one of your apparent concerns:
If you were to ever come in contact with a teacher, you'd realize that most of them who are frustrated by No Child Left Behind (at the fed level and back in Texas, where W. "borrowed" the concept from congress for political purposes (shocking!) are so, becuase despite all the big talk from W., it never gets the complete funding needed in the budget for effective implementation.
So, in addition to trying to honor a mandate, teachers are left having to scramble for the resources to meet the demand (good thing they've got all that extra disposable income), while attempting to teach our kids.
However, you've obviously flourished under this policy.
Good for you, you and your own precious self.
That deserves a High Five... or Six, in your case!
News flash for Red:
Hillary is a centrist, not a liberal.
To claim one for the other, either way, would be an injustice.
You may want to look up those bigger words, assuming you know how to use a dictionary.... (damn, another big word, let's parse it down a little...) or "word book"
Good news for Redneck Proud and friends:
Looks like one of your elected pedophiles, Mark Foley, will go uncharged for lewd conduct with under-aged pages:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/09/foley-unlikely-.html
You must be so proud.
Redneck Proud:
Speaking of Foley, It's not called No Child's Left Behind.
Maybe if you stopped hitting on UNCC students for gay sex, they could focus on the task at hand. Who could blame them for being rattled by that?
Billo, my favorite, will report on Huffington Post (HUFFERS) and hate speech on the Web tonight. Wouldn't Olbyloon fall in this category for TV?
"Wouldn't Olbyloon fall in this category for TV?"
Dunno, seriously. I'm curious if "he whose name be not be spoken" will appear in Billo's print piece.
My guess is he'll focus more on the other popular left-of-center blogs.
"he whose name be not be spoken"
Doo be doo be doo.
Hillary is a centrist, not a liberal.
Posted by: at September 14, 2007 11:58 AM
Yes and Olbermann is a non-political journalist.
The tooth fairy also exist. I have seen him.
So does the Easter Bunny.
Wanna...I am glad you decided to drop the:
SUDAN ?!?
thingy, but to run onto another thread and use my name in a cut/paste post is really loony.
Please, take your RITALIN now.
Please, take your RITALIN now.
Posted by: cee at September 14, 2007 4:33 PM
You're the doc and all, but don't you think thorazine or haldol would do him more good?
Well, after reading his latest post on ANOTHER thread directed towards me, I think you may be right, Cecelia....He is now offering up visual hallucinations for which those drugs you mention are indicated.
BigHeadDC gives TVnewser a nice little slap down (I'm sure they will somehow become worse persons material very soon):
"Now most blogs this week, including Big Bead DC, picked up on stories regarding Olbermann’s interview in the October issue of Playboy. Does this TVNewser not have the heart to go post against his former employer and post it? All signs point to yes. When Olbermann’s ratings returned to normal levels after the hiccup on Friday, did Ariens post about the return to normal demos? No — instead he broke news (via Access Hollywood) that Meredith Vieira will be returning to The View! Shock! Gasp!"
http://bigheaddc.com/2007/09/14/tvnewsers-questionable-portfolio/
Olbermann lies to his audience, insults his ugly fans (The Leonas) and yet, they still come here to deflect attention away from his lies and his insults. Why are they so heavily invested in his "success" one wonders. Are they on the Olby payroll or do they honestly believe the fat fuck gives a shit about them?
Here's a breaking news item: Olby Fan aka Psycho #1 BerryBush announced her departure for 2 weeks at DU because of a sudden family emergency vacation. Funny thing, dumb bitch keeps posting at TV Without Pity and Inside Cable News as Berberry. She's also posting as Kathy at Ko.org and OrinEnglish at EROT and Tru at the Newshole Blog. I guess that was going to be her "proof" that she wasn't all of these different people but turns out she's so stupid she couldn't resist posting as Berberry at 2 of the sites, proving she is who she is and uses multiple user names to save the honor of her precious Olby. Although even she seems quite pissed these days at him. I think being called a Leona hit a little too close to home for her.
By the way, anyone questioned as to how Olby knew so much about the current state/well-being of his "stalker"? Is it normal and usual to keep a welfare check on your "stalkers"? The real story is that she started out as a fan, was deemed too ugly by Olby to fuck, and then cast aside. Sound familiar? Patterns People. Patterns.
Real, I thought that was odd as well, that he had a "stalker" but knew that she was ill. This man is really creepy. We all know he bopped his fans (or tried to).
I wonder if Katy likes it that he wants to visualize J-Lo when thinking of his fangirls...considering how white-bred Ms. Tur is, it's kind of funny that he can't seem to get that Latino flavor out of his mouth (or off his finger)....
This is the ODE to Olbermann over at EROT: (read the comments, priceless):
http://bloggingolbermann.com/2007/09/a-ko-fans-95-theses/
Great exchange at the KOforum where a guy named brooklynbilly gets thrown in the "penalty box" for making an obvious point (these morons haven't yet discussed the Playboy article yet, not enough devotion to put it online, I guess---maybe a little too close to home, Leonas.):
Marie wrote:
From my observation, anchors reporting from a war-torn country seem mostly
motivated by vanity -- their own, or their networks'. The Daily Show does
sidesplitting sendups of these preeners all the time -- posing in front of fake
backdrops to ensure their safety!
brooklynbilly:
I'm trying to imagine what you would be saying if Olbermann decided make a a trip to Iraq.In your usual pedomorphic fashion you'd be gushing about how manly he'd look in a helmet and flak jacket.Then you'd be extolling his bravery and great intellectual curiousity.I am also sure you'd be a basket case until he returned safe and sound to Manhattan.Your usual 10 posts a day would swell to a new record for KO.O,all of them marvelling at your hero's intrepidity .
Try and deny it. I dare you .
HotRod:
billy, it's time for you to shut the fuck up. KO fan site? ring any bells?
laurlu asked:
BB, so what if Marie did say those things if Keith went to Iraq? So what???
brooklynbilly:
Because this is what she said in response to my calling Anderson Cooper a REAL newsman:
From my observation, anchors reporting from a war-torn country seem mostly
motivated by vanity -- their own, or their networks'. The Daily Show does
sidesplitting sendups of these preeners all the time -- posing in front of fake
backdrops to ensure their safety!
I guess that wouldn't apply to KO if he were to go.
Posted by: Olbyloon cut & paste club at September 14, 2007 6:38 PM
I'm not sure why anyone would particularly care what these Keith Groupies ladies talk about.
They think he's dreamy and smart and....sigh...he's on tv and everything.... In other words, they idolize Keith the old fashioned way.
That seems to be something that's their own business and a lot more honest than the disingenuous cadres who come here claiming that they don't care about Keith, they just hate OW.
That seems to be something that's their own business and a lot more honest than the disingenuous cadres who come here claiming that they don't care about Keith, they just hate OW.
Posted by: Cecelia at September 14, 2007 7:04 PM
as opposed to you, who really cares about Keith and loves OW...
That seems to be something that's their own business and a lot more honest than the disingenuous cadres who come here claiming that they don't care about Keith, they just hate OW.
Posted by: Cecelia at September 14, 2007 7:04 PM
as opposed to you, who really cares about Keith and loves OW...
Posted by: at September 14, 2007 7:06 PM
Exactly. Which is why I'm here and they're there....
I'm not sure why anyone would particularly care what these Keith Groupies ladies talk about. Posted by: Cecelia at September 14, 2007 7:04 PM
Then why respond to the comment?
I do think brooklynbilly does make a good point, not that is matters to you.
Then why respond to the comment?
I do think brooklynbilly does make a good point, not that is matters to you.
Posted by: Oblyloon cut & paste club at September 14, 2007 7:10 PM
Because this is a comment site...
You have an interest in them... have at it..... I'll have it too by voicing what is a valid distinction between them and many of the Olbyloons we get here.
They're nuts so it's fun to see what their current talking points are when Olbermann does yet another dumbass thing like calling them all Leonas and admitting he has the hots for Latinas.
They're nuts so it's fun to see what their current talking points are when Olbermann does yet another dumbass thing like calling them all Leonas and admitting he has the hots for Latinas.
Posted by: Keiths Krazies Fan Club at September 14, 2007 7:40 PM
twilight zone music....
"...valid distinction between them and many of the Olbyloons we get here."
Posted by: Cecelia at September 14, 2007 7:15 PM
Why are only your opinions valid? Because you've been here forever? I know this is a comment site, duh, but why would you comment on something that seems to get you very upset. I think we all get that you don't have much of a sense of humor, but really take the high road and just once, ignore the fangirl stuff, since it upsets you so much. (I don't know, does it hit too close too home for you sweetie?).
BTW: The point was a bit more high brow in terms of brooklynbilly's comments comparing Anderson Cooper on location at war verses it Keith Olbermann went on a war location...
blindrat says
"Rep. Silvestre Reyes, D-Texas, said the intelligence used to capture the would-be terrorists was collected under the old version of the surveillance law, not the new."
Yeah, Reyes is a true intellectual giant on foreign policy:
"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was almost certainly right to decide against appointing former impeached federal Judge Alcee Hastings as Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. However, Representative Silvestre Reyes, her new choice for the job, seems remarkably ignorant about the basics of Middle East politics - the central focus of American intelligence efforts in the current conflict. As Jeff Stein shows in this Congressional Quarterly article, Reyes doesn't understand the difference between Sunni and Shiite Muslims, and doesn't know which sect Al Qaeda belongs to:
Al Qaeda is what, I asked, Sunni or Shia?
“Al Qaeda, they have both,” Reyes said. “You’re talking about predominately?”
“Sure,” I said, not knowing what else to say.
“Predominantly — probably Shiite,” he ventured.
He couldn’t have been more wrong.
Al Qaeda is profoundly Sunni. If a Shiite showed up at an al Qaeda club house, they’d slice off his head and use it for a soccer ball.
That’s because the extremist Sunnis who make up al Qaeda consider all Shiites to be heretics.
Later in the article, we learn that Reyes is also unaware of the fact that the Lebanese terrorist group Hezbollah is Shiite (an orientation that underpins their alliance with Shiite Iran, which provides most of their weapons and funding).
A person who doesn't know that Al Qaeda is Sunni shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the Committee, much less be appointed Chairman."
Your sourcing is about as reliable as the mentally ill host of Meltdown. So lame.
blindrat uses whatever "source" sings his song, just like his hero, Olbyonesidedkanobie, no matter how ignorant and biased they are. blindbat is not gonna be happy tomorrow morning when he shows up to work (where he's supposed to be working) and see's he was debunked, again. At least he get's paid to get debunked.
Blindrat like "Think" is more than likely female. All of Olby's greatest apologist/defenders are.
Hate to admit this, but Fuzzy Logic may have a point (aside from the one on top of his head) about those 36:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004192.php
Why are only your opinions valid? Because you've been here forever? I know this is a comment site, duh, but why would you comment on something that seems to get you very upset. I think we all get that you don't have much of a sense of humor, but really take the high road and just once, ignore the fangirl stuff, since it upsets you so much. (I don't know, does it hit too close too home for you sweetie?).
BTW: The point was a bit more high brow in terms of brooklynbilly's comments comparing Anderson Cooper on location at war verses it Keith Olbermann went on a war location...
Posted by: Olbyloon cut & paste club at September 14, 2007 9:00
Sweety, the only person who gets upset over the mindsets and inclinations of Olbermann's starry-eyed love- groupies, is you....
"Blindrat like "Think" is more than likely female. All of Olby's greatest apologist/defenders are."
Cool! O'Reilly posts here too.
I'd recognize that misogynous wit anywhere!
Hell, I'd didn't even know he could read, much less thumb his way around a keyboard.
"I'd (d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d) didn't"... spit it out!
That was almost a perfectly-acceptable zinger, dumbass.
That's "Mr. Dumb Ass," to you, you hack.
Note to 10:29 PM: See how I'm attacking Nancy on the fact that she's a opportunistic, suicide-inducing, irresponsible, soulless shell of a human being; and not attributing her behavior solely on her status as a woman.
"GWB shouldn't have been allowed anywhere near the presidency, much less dog catcher."
That's kinda harsh.
I mean, dog catcher. Really?
With the quality of judgment he's show over the years, we would gladly welcome him to our town. Besides, we've got a little feral cat problem he could help with.
Yet didn't you vote for a stooge ( twice) that didn't know about any of the regional differences in Iraq?....and then brought us smack dab in the middle of this tinderbox and put it up in flames ?
GWB shouldn't have been allowed anywhere near the presidency, much less dog catcher.
Posted by: Why don't you think at September 15, 2007 1:30 AM
Funny, I don't recall you calling your cohort, mike, a "stooge" for voting for Bush, asswipe.
Notice that TVNewser has been deathly silent about Olbermann's getting his ass kicked every single night since TVN declared Olbermann a "threat" to BOR.
Sweety, the only person who gets upset over the mindsets and inclinations of Olbermann's starry-eyed love- groupies, is you....
Posted by: Cecelia at September 14, 2007 11:41 PM
yeah, riiiiight....I seem to remember Cecelia posting about Katy Tur being in Olbermann's Harry Potter segment on THREE different threads here, then when someone gave a shit and finally responded to her, by pointing out her obsessive thread postings merely as an observation, she called them obsessed. (I'm sure she'll call me obsessive because I have a memory---neo-con logic for you).
Really folks, just ignore her. (Believe me, that drives her nuts more then anything else). She's the classic neo-con straight out of Craig Crawford's book "Attack the Messenger" Point out the obvious to this oblivious twat and you'll get the classic dumbass answer, "No, I'm not, but you are...."
His mom would never tell him no, work never tells him no, daddy, well doesn't hear us with the TV on so loud but if he did he'd agree that there is a no mommy zone here.
Posted by: Katy at September 14, 2007 12:16 AM
HAHAHA!
Please hang around and tell us more, Katy!
Posted by: Cecelia at September 14, 2007 3:49 PM
What was that about Cecelia calling others obsessed...
yeah, riiiiight....I seem to remember Cecelia posting about Katy Tur being in Olbermann's Harry Potter segment on THREE different threads here, then when someone gave a shit and finally responded to her, by pointing out her obsessive thread postings merely as an observation, she called them obsessed. (I'm sure she'll call me obsessive because I have a memory---neo-con logic for you).
Really folks, just ignore her. (Believe me, that drives her nuts more then anything else). She's the classic neo-con straight out of Craig Crawford's book "Attack the Messenger" Point out the obvious to this oblivious twat and you'll get the classic dumbass answer, "No, I'm not, but you are...."
Posted by: at September 15, 2007 12:30 PM
So in your book a celebrity's wife or girlfriend is on par with the anonymous groupies who comprise fan sites and fan clubs...
Now THERE'S brilliance.... :D
And in your book my commenting that I spotted Katy Tur in a Countdown segment, in order to see if anyone else had as well (I wasn't entirely sure it was her) is the same as your lurking on Olbermann fansites and hanging on every word of his infatuated groupies...
Oh, THAT's not obsessive...
Maybe you should start lecturing them that instead of gushing over Olbermann, they should be talking about Iraq... :D
I know this all makes sense to you, as does calling me obsessed for thinking that they ought to be left alone to do what they wish on their site as long as they're not bothering us on this one....
hmmm.... on second thought, it probably doesn't make sense to even you. Yes, even you know you're a contrived and silly putz.
yeah, riiiiight....I seem to remember Cecelia posting about Katy Tur being in Olbermann's Harry Potter segment on THREE different threads here, then when someone gave a shit and finally responded to her, by pointing out her obsessive thread postings merely as an observation, she called them obsessed. (I'm sure she'll call me obsessive because I have a memory---neo-con logic for you).
Really folks, just ignore her. (Believe me, that drives her nuts more then anything else). She's the classic neo-con straight out of Craig Crawford's book "Attack the Messenger" Point out the obvious to this oblivious twat and you'll get the classic dumbass answer, "No, I'm not, but you are...."
Posted by: at September 15, 2007 12:30 PM
So in your book a celebrity's wife or girlfriend is on par with the anonymous groupies who comprise fan sites and fan clubs...
Now THERE'S brilliance.... :D
And in your book my commenting that I spotted Katy Tur in a Countdown segment, in order to see if anyone else had as well (I wasn't entirely sure it was her) is the same as your lurking on Olbermann fansites and hanging on every word of his infatuated groupies...
Oh, THAT's not obsessive...
Maybe you should start lecturing them that instead of gushing over Olbermann, they should be talking about Iraq... :D
I know this all makes sense to you, as does calling me obsessed for thinking that they ought to be left alone to do what they wish on their site as long as they're not bothering us on this one....
hmmm.... on second thought, it probably doesn't make sense to even you. Yes, even you know you're a contrived and silly putz.
yeah, riiiiight....I seem to remember Cecelia posting about Katy Tur being in Olbermann's Harry Potter segment on THREE different threads here, then when someone gave a shit and finally responded to her, by pointing out her obsessive thread postings merely as an observation, she called them obsessed. (I'm sure she'll call me obsessive because I have a memory---neo-con logic for you).
Really folks, just ignore her. (Believe me, that drives her nuts more then anything else). She's the classic neo-con straight out of Craig Crawford's book "Attack the Messenger" Point out the obvious to this oblivious twat and you'll get the classic dumbass answer, "No, I'm not, but you are...."
Posted by: at September 15, 2007 12:30 PM
So in your book a celebrity's wife or girlfriend is on par with the anonymous groupies who comprise fan sites and fan clubs...
Now THERE'S brilliance.... :D
And in your book my commenting that I spotted Katy Tur in a Countdown segment, in order to see if anyone else had as well (I wasn't entirely sure it was her) is the same as your lurking on Olbermann fansites and hanging on every word of his infatuated groupies...
Oh, THAT's not obsessive...
Maybe you should start lecturing them that instead of gushing over Olbermann, they should be talking about Iraq... :D
I know this all makes sense to you, as does calling me obsessed for thinking that they ought to be left alone to do what they wish on their site as long as they're not bothering us on this one....
hmmm.... on second thought, it probably doesn't make sense to even you. Yes, even you know you're a contrived and silly putz.
yeah, riiiiight....I seem to remember Cecelia posting about Katy Tur being in Olbermann's Harry Potter segment on THREE different threads here, then when someone gave a shit and finally responded to her, by pointing out her obsessive thread postings merely as an observation, she called them obsessed. (I'm sure she'll call me obsessive because I have a memory---neo-con logic for you).
Really folks, just ignore her. (Believe me, that drives her nuts more then anything else). She's the classic neo-con straight out of Craig Crawford's book "Attack the Messenger" Point out the obvious to this oblivious twat and you'll get the classic dumbass answer, "No, I'm not, but you are...."
Posted by: at September 15, 2007 12:30 PM
So in your book a celebrity's wife or girlfriend is on par with the anonymous groupies who comprise fan sites and fan clubs...
Now THERE'S brilliance.... :D
And in your book my commenting that I spotted Katy Tur in a Countdown segment, in order to see if anyone else had as well (I wasn't entirely sure it was her) is the same as your lurking on Olbermann fansites and hanging on every word of his infatuated groupies...
Oh, THAT's not obsessive...
Maybe you should start lecturing them that instead of gushing over Olbermann, they should be talking about Iraq... :D
I know this all makes sense to you, as does calling me obsessed for thinking that they ought to be left alone to do what they wish on their site as long as they're not bothering us on this one....
hmmm.... on second thought, it probably doesn't make sense to even you. Yes, even you know you're a contrived and silly putz.
HAHAHA!
Please hang around and tell us more, Katy!
Posted by: Cecelia at September 14, 2007 3:49 PM
What was that about Cecelia calling others obsessed...
Posted by: too funny at September 15, 2007 1:14 PM
I hope that "Katy" does return.
VERY witty and dead-on parody without a cheap shot in sight.
In terms even you might understand-- tooo funny!...
"You know you have to be one super dumb partisan asshat to bitch about our gornement trying to protect us. You can bet if you or anyome in your family were killed by a terrorist attack you and Mike Lussy would be the first to whine about our goverment not doing enough."
Protect us?!? You simple slack-jawed bumblefuck - they've gotten 5000 Americans KILLED in Iraq. That's more than on 9/11, you self-hating homo retard. Bush has also made us more enemies that want to kill us than we did on 9/11 you brain-dead men's-room sperm-dumpster.
And in your book my commenting that I spotted Katy Tur in a Countdown segment, in order to see if anyone else had as well (I wasn't entirely sure it was her) is the same as your lurking on Olbermann fansites and hanging on every word of his infatuated groupies...
So in your book a celebrity's wife or girlfriend is on par with the anonymous groupies who comprise fan sites and fan clubs...
Oh, THAT's not obsessive...
Posted by: Cecelia at September 15, 2007 11:01 PM
Posted by: Cecelia at September 15, 2007 11:01 PM
Posted by: Cecelia at September 15, 2007 11:01 PM
Posted by: Cecelia at September 15, 2007 11:01 PM
I love the way Cecelia try's to change(spin) how that went down, "oh, was that Katy?" I'm not going to waste my time finding the THREE threads that this dipshit tried to "stir" things up (like a trolling fangirl---which was the original point, of course completly lost on this dipshit neocon) by telling everyone SHE SAW Katy Tur (like I said earlier, no one cared when she posted it the first time, that is why she had to post it 2 more times).
Give it up dipshit, you are just as obsessed with fangirls & celebritiy girlfriends as anybody else, Good try to lie about it though...you're not silly, your just a putz.
I hope that "Katy" does return.
VERY witty and dead-on parody without a cheap shot in sight.
In terms even you might understand-- tooo funny!...
Posted by: Cecelia at September 15, 2007 11:08 PM
Here's what Cecelia finds so witty (sounds like stupid, rude personal attacks---Oh, yeah, thats right, thats why Cecelia can find find this "Katy" post witty) (I'm sure she'll say she was being ironic):
How dare you! Oldermann's 80 year old mother is perfectly sane.
Olderman and I both have wonderful relationships with our parents.
After a hard 2 hours of work he comes home and we make mad passionate love. Although sometime he does yell out his own name in mid coitus.
Oldermann don't need his mommy to defend him like Gutfeld needed his mommy to. No his momma raised him right.
And I don't need my daddy either as Oldermann helped me understand. Although daddy does live with us. But daddy's so sweet ... just sits on the the couch, turns up the TV and mummbles. How wonderful that daddy give us our privacy.
His mom would never tell him no, work never tells him no, daddy, well doesn't hear us with the TV on so loud but if he did he'd agree that there is a no mommy zone here.
Posted by: Katy at September 14, 2007 12:16 AM