A Leftist caller admits the Left is allied with islam!
Great Thanks!

John Gibson is probably pissed that he's not as well "You-Tubed" [and therefore as famous] as Olbermann

That rant by Gibson is so wonderful in so many ways, I'm at a loss for words.

Wow. That was a waste of time.

Last time I checked, Saudi Arabia was still a U.S. arms customer (another big buy is on the table). Guess that makes all Americans kin to Bin Laden, by Gibson's definition.

Fucking brilliant.

If Osama does have billions of dollars stashed away for use in financing terrorist activities, Keith can perform a great service to America and the western world in general in bankrupting bin Laden by suing him for plagiarism.

Olby is Bin Laden's mouthpiece
The terrorists have Olby on lease
Keith's jumping through hoops
While hating our troops
NBC should desist and cease

Now we know where KiethO's high demo #'s come from. Al Queds is watching religiously.

Is poltroon (an offensive term for somebody regarded as a contemptible coward) an appropriate word when it comes to bathtub boy.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE....

..between Keith Olbermann and a bag of shit? The bag.

John does make a point. Never watch olbie knobie but make me think of obl. Hope he never grows a beard

I said to my wife when I heard the tape that it sounded like Bathtub-boy

don't quit your day job, flucker

I'll finally ask: What's with the appellation "bathtub boy"?

Is it because the slack-jawed, knuckle-dragging yokels who adhere to the right wing are unfamiliar with bathing? Do they therefore fear it as some sort of witchcraft or wizardry, and cast derision at those know to engage in the practice?

Gibson KNOWS Olbermann remember? During the Bill Clinton impeachment, when both Gibson and Olbermann were both working for MSNBC, Olbermann had mini-nervous breakdowns on a daily basis. Apparently they never knew if he'd bother to show up on air or not and Gibson was kept on 24/7 stand-by to replace him when he failed to show. Gibson has told the story several times about how on quite a few occasions, Olbermann's producers would go to his apartment to try and coax him to come in to the studio and do his show and he'd be hiding in the bathtub, refusing to step foot out of the apartment. Hence, the lovable nickname, Bathtub Boy.

"knuckle-draggers"
I just don't hear that one enough, Loin cloth.

*yawn*

Next?

"During the Bill Clinton impeachment, when both Gibson and Olbermann were both working for MSNBC, Olbermann had mini-nervous breakdowns on a daily basis. Apparently they never knew if he'd bother to show up on air or not and Gibson was kept on 24/7 stand-by to replace him when he failed to show."

This was "pre-prozac." Notice the droopy/glazed over eyes, now. The delusional rants, well, that was pre-exhisting.

All I can say is I want to be placed on Bush's wanted list. That would make me among the safest and most secure men in the world. He couldn't find a Cub Scout in a Baskin Robbins.

Posted by: Clucker at September 8, 2007 2:48 PM

As a staunch supporter of the deplorable aclu, you should know that they (aclu) have banned the Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts from just about everything including State Parks. The aclu supports porn and nambla, go figure.

Almost forgot, the aclu supports terrorists, too. My bad.

Jeff: "Almost for got the aclu supports terrorists too. My bad."

Why is it that extreme right wing nuts like Jeff will never understand the old patriotic American saying: "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"?

Defending freedom of speech and the rule of law is ALL the aclu has ever been guilty of.

Rational thought just isn't possible within the confines of that little brain of yours, is it Jeff?

"Defending freedom of speech and the rule of law is ALL the aclu has ever been guilty of."

Depends on who's doing the speaking, Mike. Although the ACLU has defended speakers on behalf of extreme causes from the fringes of both right and left, they have also been notoriously hostile to those seeking the protection of First Amendment free exercise rights under the First Amendment (that is, unless the claimants are Muslim, Wiccan or some other non-Judeo--Christian faith tradition.)

The ACLU needs a new summer camp for its young folks, preferably in San Diego's Balboa Park. The PC Scouts, as we'll call them, will head off to Balboa to obtain Rights Badges (as opposed to merit badges) and learn the meaning of the PC scout Oath: "On my self-esteem, I will do whatever feels good for myself; And to question authority, To help myself at all times, To keep myself physically gratified, Mentally interested, And morally tolerant."

But the ACLU has a bit of a problem: the coveted camp in Balboa Park is currently being used by the Boy Scouts of America, the arch-enemy of the ACLU. In order to train up a vast new generation of PC scouts, the ACLU must figure out a way to move the Boy Scouts out of Balboa Park (and out of the rest of America too).

On Thursday, the ACLU came much closer to its goal. The landlord of the Boy Scout camp in Balboa Park, the City of San Diego, switched sides from supporting the Boy Scouts to supporting the ACLU in its quest to destroy the Scouts. As settlement of an ACLU lawsuit against the City of San Diego and the Scouts, the City of San Diego decided to abandon the Scouts in their appeal to remain in Balboa Park.

Last July, U.S. District Judge Napoleon Jones ruled that the Boy Scouts of America is a religious organization. Their presence in Balboa Park was considered a violation of the separation of church and state. Because the Scouts believe in God, said Judge Jones, there is "overwhelming and uncontradicted evidence" that the Scouts have received preferential treatment in being able to lease Balboa Park.

Under terms of the new settlement, San Diego must request Judge Jones to cancel the Boy Scouts' lease on Balboa Park. The city will also pay the ACLU nearly $1 million in court costs and attorney fees, which will, of course, help finance further attacks against the Boy Scouts.

Now that the City of San Diego has given up on the Boy Scouts of America, a nearly 90-year relationship has come to an end. It began after the 1915 San Diego World's Fair in Balboa Park when the Santa Fe Railroad donated its Pueblo Indian Village to local Boy Scouts with approval by the San Diego Parks Commission. For 25 years, the Scouts used the Indian Village as a headquarters and recreation site free of charge. During World War Two, the military took possession of Balboa Park and the Boy Scouts launched their volunteer campaigns to help the war effort from a makeshift headquarters in a local theater.

This remark nicely summarizes the ambivalence with which many people regard the ACLU. Few organizations dance closer to the very edge of the loony-Left precipice than it does. There seems to be no thug too hardened nor any cause too exotic for the ACLU to champion. At the same time, if America ever were unlucky enough to face a president who decided to remain in the Oval Office past her expiration date, the ACLU would battle her and her junta with every sharp courtroom argument, pointed legal filing, and well-aimed briefcase it could muster.

That said, the ACLU lately has stained the dark side of its reputation through its actions in two cases involving the treatment of vulnerable, young Americans. The ACLU is defending those who abuse children while attacking those who give them moral guidance. This contrast reveals the priorities of today's ACLU.

Charles Rust-Tierney, the former president of the Virginia chapter of the ACLU, explains why he argued against restricting public internet access in public libraries in Virginia:

“Recognizing that individuals will continue to behave responsibly and appropriately while in the library, the default should be maximum, unrestricted access to the valuable resources of the Internet.”

Alexandria, Va. (WUSA) -- A public defender from Arlington now finds that he is the accused. Fifty-one year old Charles Rust-Tierney appeared in United States District Court in Alexandria Wednesday.

He’s accused of receiving and possessing child pornography, and investigators outlined what they say they found after searching his home.

They say Rust-Tierney had video showing, among other things, the sexual torture of infants and toddlers. The judge said she’d never heard of child pornography that vile and said because of that, Rust-Tierney would stay behind bars until his trial.

Rust-Tierney is a father himself and also a coach of Arlington-area youth little league and soccer teams. In court, dozens of his friends and family members voiced support for him. They say they have never suspected him of improper contact with kids.

http://www.wusa9.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=56324

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:cz0uh1HT7cUJ:www.techlawjournal.com/censor/19981201aclu.htm+Rust-Tierney+library+virginia&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

source for internet case

He was advocating a position that (allegedly) helped his sick lifestyle. I find that more appalling than the hypocritical actions of Craig, Foley, and the others.

Maybe not helped his lifestyle (I don't know if he used the public library for the internet) but advocated for it.

Grammie (if you are out there),

I thought about your suggestion to register at Newsbusters to communicate outside of this board. I checked out Newsbusters (the subject of the first story over there now, a guest on Bill Maher's show, seems to be a rap version of SLOB in some respects), but I procrastinate when something goes beyond name and e-mail address. I plan to do it very soon, unless Cecelia can come up with something else.

Nite,
Sharm

Actually, the Mayer piece was not the first story; I got it from a link and wrongly assumed it was the first story.

the funniest part of that clip is the other guy (not gibson) saying in reference to Olbermann "He's actually more harsh (than Bin Laden)." lol

The new tagline at MSNBC:

Kieth Olbermann. Making Osama Bin Laden look rational.

O'Reilly too, for that matter.

after we pull out of iraq and remove republicans from office, then maybe we can finish the job by offering a complete apology to Osama. Both for our wars and for ever setting foot in Saudi Arabia (by their request mind you, but no matter) We're sorry Osama!! You were right all along!!!!

That you, Cheney?

hmmm... how about we finish W's job (again), find the fucker and kill him instead?

Just to corrupt Republicans. Most of the good ones are already looking for other work anyway.

why?

he's on america's side now.

Bush is evil? check.

War of lies? check.

Wars are hopeless? check.

Mislead the world? check.

capitalism is bad? check

hell, once we all convert to islam, we'll be like like peas and carrots.

I think I'll award a Medal of Honor to Osama.
I couldn't keep "playing" war without his support.
Hell, if I caught him, those military folks would think their job is done.

That you, Cheney?

hmmm... how about we finish W's job (again), find the fucker and kill him instead?
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i love when you guys try to sound all tough on terrorism. Don't you really mean kill Bin Laden as soon as Bush is out of office. Cause we all know that the idea of Bush accomplishing something like that would sicken you.

Just imagine Bush up at the podium celebrating the death of Bin Laden. Just turns your stomach dont it?

at least the "war of lies" was right.

The others, not so much.

I think I'll award a Medal of Honor to Osama.
I couldn't keep "playing" war without his support.
Hell, if I caught him, those military folks would think their job is done.

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but i thought you paid him to do this and knocked the buildings down yourself?

at least the "war of lies" was right.

The others, not so much.
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wow. really? tell that to democrats in congress. Those others might be a real shocker to them.

Tougher than the chicken hawks, for sure.

I don't hate Bush, but I do feel sorry for him.

Bin Ladin claimed responsibility for 9/11, I think that signed his death warrant. We (those of us who were there, were you?) had him cornered before we were deployed to Iraq.

For that, I do blame Bush. But people, even presidents, can make mistakes. Yet, he's done nothing, or worse aggravated the region, with a series of military and political misjudgments.

Honestly, I suspect the Bush and U.S. relations to Saudi Arabia had a significant impact on the redeployments.

"wow. really? tell that to democrats in congress. Those others might be a real shocker to them."

Really, when was the last time you corresponded with a democratic pol?

"but i thought you paid him to do this and knocked the buildings down yourself?"

No, that was me.
That stupid wanna-be cowboy couldn't drum up that shit himself. Too much coke in the 70s, 80s, 90s...

I dont care which president avenges the deaths of 9/11, but I have serious doubts that W. could.

His failure in the oil business in Texas proved long ago he couldn't tell his ass from a hole in the ground. Seems he's still having difficulty recalling the big-ass hole in Manhattan, unless it's useful for the latest propaganda.

america is already completely sick of the Democrat leadership and we are still in '07. HA!

i remember when Petraeus was going to deliver the report to Congress, now it's just a statement. The WH will deliver the report.

Foxes guarding the hen house, again.

Really, when was the last time you corresponded with a democratic pol?
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War of lies? check.
"...for a president who sent this country to war on lies." -Barrack Obama

Wars are hopeless? check.
"I believe ... that this war is lost." - Harry Reid

Mislead the world? check.
"This president has mislead us all." -John Kerry

capitalism is bad? check
Do I really need a quote for this one? (not all, but enough)

Bush is evil? check?
well, we all know the truth about this one.

So, how is South America this time of year, asshole-Zizwheel?

I disagree with Pea Brain's condemnation of an entire organizaion because of the misdeeds of a member. I actually had a couple of mean-spirited nincompoops who intimated I was supporting pedophilia by going to Mass. That is my only point.

Posted by: Clucker at September 9, 2007 12:47 AM

I condemned the aclu LONG before the Tierney scandal, Mrs. Philby.

That's not direct correspondence, which was my query.

Please read carefully, instead of cutting-and-pasting other peoples quotes.

The truth is America favors Democrats in every issue including fighting terrorism.ie. Poll after poll.
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says the great and blind lover of "mob rule".
If enough people think it, it must be true.

does anyone else here actually make contact with their representatives, or just repeat what they hear from the self-described tv experts and journalists (Olby included)?

"says the great and blind lover of "mob rule".
If enough people think it, it must be true."

Hey, it works for me.

That's not direct correspondence, which was my query.

Please read carefully, instead of cutting-and-pasting other peoples quotes.
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then your query of "have you ever talked to a democrat politician?" was clearly a means of deflecting the conversation. Rather than accept that many democratic politicians held these views, you came back with, "oh, i dont actually talk to them."

so when you have your nuts fed to you, it helps to take it like a man.

That wasn't my query either.

I'll take note of the nuts thing.
you're obviously speaking from experience.

No, It's called a democracy. You know....when the people speak...
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no, democracy is when people want to burn flags, so the government goes.. okay.

Democracy is not 300 million people believing, hey, If we just leave Iraq, there will no negative consequences, so then there isnt.

That wasn't my query either
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how are you able to type with that salty sack in your mouth?

"no, democracy is when people want to burn flags, so the government goes.. okay.

Democracy is not 300 million people believing, hey, If we just leave Iraq, there will no negative consequences, so then there isnt."

It's clear to me now.
Thank you for speaking for entire country.

"no, democracy is when people want to burn flags, so the government goes.. okay.

Democracy is not 300 million people believing, hey, If we just leave Iraq, there will no negative consequences, so then there isnt."

Actually, no. Democracy allows for individuals like you to post bullsh*t and not have your ass thrown in jail.

... or worse.

It's clear to me now.
Thank you for speaking for entire country.
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thats not what i said. dont read my words and try to interpret things i say. How dare you. How can you know they mean? (dont answer this, cause it aint my query.)

You want your balls back now?

Actually, no. Democracy allows for individuals like you to post bullsh*t and not have your ass thrown in jail.
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actually no. That would be republicanism(the law). Democracy is what allows someone to change that law if they should chose. Which is why we dont elect people to the supreme court, in hopes that those people can remain rational in the fac of mob rule. Lesson over. good night.

HAAAAAA!

As soon as we elect Republicans that can behave by that definition, we'll all sleep easier.

Wait, you forgot your balls!

actually no. That would be republicanism(the law). Democracy is what allows someone to change that law if they should chose. Which is why we dont elect people to the supreme court, in hopes that those people can remain rational in the fac of mob rule.
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That's fundamentally right. Since in many European democracies it is illegal to make nazi references. Democracy doesn't necessarily mean freedom of speech, because they can just pass laws restriciting them. But your theory about the supreme cout isn't quite right, since people elect the president, who appoints them. So over time, they are just as likely to do what the public demands anyway.

"how are you able to type with that salty sack in your mouth?"

Silly, I use my fingers of course.

Perhaps if you stopped using your tongue to type your posts, they'd make more sense.

You dad says 'hi' by the way.

This isn't the first time Gibson accused the left of siding with the enemy. I think Colbert already skewered him on this :
http://mediamatters.org/items/200605170005

and Dinesh D'souza
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/01/17/colbert-nails-dinesh-dsouza/

God bless Colbert.

Actually, no. Democracy allows for individuals like you to post bullsh*t and not have your ass thrown in jail.

Posted by: at September 9, 2007 2:01 AM

No; Not "no" - but your example is definitely a clear criteron as well:

"More than a dozen police officers converged at a corner of Lafayette Square yesterday, bringing with them a horse and extra handcuffs.

Their target: a handful of demonstrators who had gathered to post two signs on an electrical box advertising a protest march Sept. 15 against the Iraq war.

During a clash that drew a crowd during lunchtime, two demonstrators, including an Iraq war veteran and the mother of another veteran, were arrested on charges of defacing public property. Police charged a third protester with impeding an officer"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/06/AR2007090602483.html

scandolous clucker.

The Post did not mention how many demonstrators there were. Let me take a wild guess: five!

Joe Wilson to tribal chiefs in Niger:

You boys been selling yellowcake to Saddam?

Tribal chiefs in Niger to Joe:

No, Joe!

Joe Wilson to tribal chiefs in Niger:

Thanks, boys!

Tribal chiefs in Niger to Joe:

Hey Joe, the girls are here. Let's party!

Joe Wilson to tribal chiefs in Niger:

Allright!!!

You dad says 'hi' by the way.
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oh yeah? So you're sucking his dick now? Good for him. Nothing like putting leftist pussy in his place.

1.) Wilson Insisted That The Vice President’s Office Sent Him To Niger:

Wilson Said He Traveled To Niger At CIA Request To Help Provide Response To Vice President’s Office. “In February 2002, I was informed by officials at the Central Intelligence Agency that Vice President Dick Cheney’s office had questions about a particular intelligence report. … The agency officials asked if I would travel to Niger to check out the story so they could provide a response to the vice president’s office.” (Joseph C. Wilson, Op-Ed, “What I Didn’t Find In Africa,” The New York Times, 7/6/03)

Joe Wilson: “[W]hat They Did, What The Office Of The Vice President Did, And, In Fact, I Believe Now From Mr. Libby’s Statement, It Was Probably The Vice President Himself ...” (CNN’s “Late Edition,” 8/3/03)
Vice President Cheney: “I Don’t Know Joe Wilson. I’ve Never Met Joe Wilson. … And Joe Wilson - I Don’t [Know] Who Sent Joe Wilson. He Never Submitted A Report That I Ever Saw When He Came Back.” (NBC’s “Meet The Press,” 9/14/03)

CIA Director George Tenet: “In An Effort To Inquire About Certain Reports Involving Niger, CIA’s Counter-Proliferation Experts, On Their Own Initiative, Asked An Individual With Ties To The Region To Make A Visit To See What He Could Learn.” (Central Intelligence Agency, “Statement By George J. Tenet, Director Of Central Intelligence,” Press Release, 7/11/03)

2.) Wilson Claimed The Vice President And Other Senior White House Officials Were Briefed On His Niger Report:

“[Wilson] Believed That [His Report] Would Have Been Distributed To The White House And That The Vice President Received A Direct Response To His Question About The Possible Uranium Deal.” (Senate Select Committee On Intelligence, “Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Assessments On Iraq,” 7/7/04)

The Senate Select Committee On Intelligence Reported That The Vice President Was Not Briefed On Wilson’s Report. “Conclusion 14. The Central Intelligence Agency should have told the Vice President and other senior policymakers that it had sent someone to Niger to look into the alleged Iraq-Niger uranium deal and it should have briefed the Vice President on the former ambassador’s findings.” (Senate Select Committee On Intelligence, “Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Assessments On Iraq,” 7/7/04)

CIA Director George Tenet: “Because This Report, In Our View, Did Not Resolve Whether Iraq Was Or Was Not Seeking Uranium From Abroad, It Was Given A Normal And Wide Distribution, But We Did Not Brief It To The President, Vice-President Or Other Senior Administration Officials.” (Central Intelligence Agency, “Statement By George J. Tenet, Director Of Central Intelligence,” Press Release, 7/11/03)

3.) Wilson Has Claimed His Niger Report Was Conclusive And Significant

Wilson Claims His Trip Proved There Was Nothing To The Uranium “Allegations.” “I knew that [Dr. Rice] had fundamentally misstated the facts. In fact, she had lied about it. I had gone out and I had undertaken this study. I had come back and said that this was not feasible. … This government knew that there was nothing to these allegations.” (NBC’s, “Meet The Press,” 5/2/04)

Officials Said Evidence In Wilson’s Niger Report Was “Thin” And His “Homework Was Shoddy.” (Michael Duffy, “Leaking With A Vengeance,” Time, 10/13/03)

Senate Select Committee On Intelligence Unanimous Report: “Conclusion 13. The Report On The Former Ambassador’s Trip To Niger, Disseminated In March 2002, Did Not Change Any Analysts’ Assessments Of The Iraq-Niger Uranium Deal.” (Senate Select Committee On Intelligence, “Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Assessments On Iraq,” 7/7/04)
“For Most Analysts, The Information In The Report Lent More Credibility To The Original Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Report On The Uranium Deal, But State Department Bureau Of Intelligence And Research (INR) Analysts Believed That The Report Supported Their Assessments That Niger Was Unlikely To Be Willing Or Able To Sell Uranium.” (Senate Select Committee On Intelligence, “Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Assessments On Iraq,” 7/7/04)
CIA Said Wilson’s Findings Did Not Resolve The Issue. “Because [Wilson’s] report, in our view, did not resolve whether Iraq was or was not seeking uranium from abroad, it was given a normal and wide distribution, but we did not brief it to the president, vice president or other senior administration officials. We also had to consider that the former Nigerien officials knew that what they were saying would reach the U.S. government and that this might have influenced what they said.” (Central Intelligence Agency, “Statement By George J. Tenet, Director Of Central Intelligence,” Press Release 7/11/03)

The Butler Report Claimed That The President’s State Of the Union Statement On Uranium From Africa, “Was Well-Founded.” “We conclude that, on the basis of the intelligence assessments at the time, covering both Niger and the Democratic Republic of Congo, the statements on Iraqi attempts to buy uranium from Africa in the Government’s dossier, and by the Prime Minister in the House of Commons, were well-founded. By extension, we conclude also that the statement in President Bush’s State of the Union Address of 28 January 2003 that: ‘The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.’ was well-founded.” (The Rt. Hon. The Lord Butler Of Brockwell, “Review Of Intelligence, On Weapons Of Mass Destruction,” 7/14/04)

4.) Wilson Denied His Wife Suggested He Travel To Niger In 2002:

Wilson Claimed His Wife Did Not Suggest He Travel To Niger To Investigate Reports Of Uranium Deal; Instead, Wilson Claims It Came Out Of Meeting With CIA. CNN’s Wolf Blitzer: “Among other things, you had always said, always maintained, still maintain your wife, Valerie Plame, a CIA officer, had nothing to do with the decision to send to you Niger to inspect reports that uranium might be sold from Niger to Iraq. … Did Valerie Plame, your wife, come up with the idea to send you to Niger?” Joe Wilson: “No. My wife served as a conduit, as I put in my book. When her supervisors asked her to contact me for the purposes of coming into the CIA to discuss all the issues surrounding this allegation of Niger selling uranium to Iraq.” (CNN’s “Late Edition,” 7/18/04)

But Senate Select Committee On Intelligence Received Not Only Testimony But Actual Documentation Indicating Wilson’s Wife Proposed Him For Trip. “Some CPD, [CIA Counterproliferation Division] officials could not recall how the office decided to contact the former ambassador, however, interviews and documents provided to the Committee indicate that his wife, a CPD employee, suggested his name for the trip. The CPD reports officer told Committee staff that the former ambassador’s wife ‘offered up his name’ and a memorandum to the Deputy Chief of the CPD on February 12, 2002, from the former ambassador’s wife says, ‘my husband has good relations with both the PM [prime minister] and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity.’” (Select Committee On Intelligence, “Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Intelligence Assessments On Iraq,” U.S. Senate, 7/7/04)
5.) Wilson Has Claimed His 1999 Trip To Niger Was Not Suggested By His Wife:

Wilson Claims CIA Thought To Ask Him To Make Trip Because He Had Previously Made Trip For Them In 1999, Not Because Of His Wife’s Suggestion. CNN’s Wolf Blitzer: “Who first raised your name, then, based on what you know? Who came up with the idea to send you there?” Joe Wilson: “The CIA knew my name from a trip, and it’s in the report, that I had taken in 1999 related to uranium activities but not related to Iraq. I had served for 23 years in government including as Bill Clinton’s Senior Director for African Affairs at the National Security Council. I had done a lot of work with the Niger government during a period punctuated by a military coup and a subsequent assassination of a president. So I knew all the people there.” (CNN’s “Late Edition,” 7/18/04)

In Fact, His Wife Suggested Him For 1999 Trip, As Well. “The former ambassador had traveled previously to Niger on the CIA’s behalf … The former ambassador was selected for the 1999 trip after his wife mentioned to her supervisors that her husband was planning a business trip to Niger in the near future and might be willing to use his contacts in the region …” (Select Committee On Intelligence, “Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Intelligence Assessments On Iraq,” U.S. Senate, 7/7/04)

6.) Wilson Claimed He Was A Victim Of A Partisan Smear Campaign

Joe Wilson: “Well, I Don’t Know. Obviously, There’s Been This Orchestrated Campaign, This Smear Campaign. I Happen To Think That It’s Because The RNC, The Republican National Committee’s Been Involved In This In A Big Way …” CNN’s Wolf Blitzer: “But They Weren’t Involved In The Senate Intelligence Committee Report.” Wilson: “No, They Weren’t.” (CNN’s “Late Edition,” 7/18/04)

Senate Intelligence Committee Unanimously Concluded That Wilson’s Report “Lent More Credibility” For Most Analysts “To The Original Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Reports.” “Conclusion 13. The report on the former ambassador’s trip to Niger, disseminated in March 2002, did not change any analysts’ assessments of the Iraq-Niger uranium deal. For most analysts, the information in the report lent more credibility to the original Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) reports on the uranium deal, but the State Department Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR) analysts believed that the report supported their assessment that Niger was unlikely to be willing or able to sell uranium to Iraq.” (Select Committee On Intelligence, “Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Intelligence Assessments On Iraq,” U.S. Senate, 7/7/04)

Members Of The Senate Select Committee On Intelligence That Wrote The Unanimous “Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Intelligence Assessments On Iraq”:

Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV)

Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI)

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)

Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR)

Sen. Richard Durbin (D-IL)

Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN)

Sen. John Edwards (D-NC)

Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-MD)

Sen. Pat Roberts (R-KS)

Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT)

Sen. Mike DeWine (R-OH)

Sen. Christopher Bond (R-MO)

Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS)

Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-ME)

Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE)

Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-GA)

Sen. John Warner (R-VA)

(Select Committee On Intelligence, “Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Intelligence Assessments On Iraq,” U.S. Senate, 7/7/04)

7.) A Month Before The Bob Novak And Matthew Cooper Articles Ever Came Out, Wilson Told The Washington Post That Previous Intelligence Reports About Niger Were Based On Forged Documents:

In June Of 2003, Wilson Told The Washington Post “The Niger Intelligence Was Based On Documents That Had Clearly Been Forged Because ‘The Dates Were Wrong And The Names Were Wrong.’” (Susan Schmidt, “Plame’s Input Is Cited On Niger Mission,” The Washington Post, 7/10/04)

However, “The [Senate Select Committee On Intelligence] Report … Said Wilson Provided Misleading Information To The Washington Post Last June [12th, 2003].” (Susan Schmidt, “Plame’s Input Is Cited On Niger Mission,” The Washington Post, 7/10/04)

Senate Select Committee On Intelligence Unanimous Report: “The Former Ambassador Said That He May Have ‘Misspoken’ To The Reporter When He Said He Concluded The Documents Were ‘Forged.’” (Senate Select Committee On Intelligence, “Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Assessments On Iraq,” 7/7/04)
8.) Wilson Claimed His Book Would Enrich Debate:

NBC’s Katie Couric: “What Do You Hope The Whole Point Of This Book Will Be? Joe Wilson: “Well, I - I Hope, One, It Will Tell - It Tries To Tell An Interesting Story. Two, I Hope That It Enriches The Debate In A Year In Which We Are All Called Upon As Americans To Elect Our Leaders. And Three, … That [It] Says That This Is A Great Democracy That Is Worthy Of Our Taking Our Responsibilities As Stewards Seriously.” (NBC’s “Today Show,” 5/3/04)

Wilson Admits In His Book That He Had Been Involved In “A Little Literary Flair” When Talking To Reporters. “[Wilson] wrote in his book, he told Committee staff that his assertion may have involved ‘a little literary flair.’” (Matthew Continetti, “‘A Little Literary Flair’” The Weekly Standard, 7/26/04)

Wilson’s Book The Politics Of Truth: Inside The Lies That Put The White House On Trial And Betrayed My Wife’s CIA Identity Has Been Panned In Numerous Reviews For Its Inaccuracies:

“On Page One Of Chapter One, He Quotes NBC Talk Show Host Chris Matthews, Who Told Him That, After Mr. Wilson Chose To Go Public: ‘Wilson’s Wife Is Fair Game.’ Later, He Bases His List Of Suspect Leakers On Conversations With Members Of The News Media And A ‘Source Close To The House Judiciary Committee.’” (Eli Lake, Op-Ed, “Don’t Quit Your Day Job, Mr. Wilson,” New York Post, 5/4/04)

“For Example, When Asked How He ‘Knew’ That The Intelligence Community Had Rejected The Possibility Of A Niger-Iraq Uranium Deal, As He Wrote In His Book, He Told [Senate Intelligence] Committee Staff That His Assertion May Have Involved ‘A Little Literary Flair.’” (Matthew Continetti, “‘A Little Literary Flair,’” The Weekly Standard, 7/26/04)

The Boston Globe: “In Essence, Much Of Wilson’s Book Is An Attempt To Portray The Bush Administration As A Ministry Of Fear Whose Mission In Pursuing War In Iraq Required It To Proclaim A Lie As Truth.” (Michael D. Langan, Op-Ed, “‘Truth’ Makes Much Of Bush Controversy,” The Boston Globe, 5/4/04)

Newsweek’s Evan Thomas Wrote In The Washington Post: “[W]ilson’s Claims And Conclusions Are Either Long Hashed Over Or Based On What The Intelligence Business Describes As ‘Rumint,’ Or Rumor Intelligence.” (Evan Thomas, Op-Ed, “Indecent Exposure,” The Washington Post, 5/16/04)
9.) Wilson Claimed The CIA Provided Him With Information Related To The Iraq-Niger Uranium Transaction:

“The Former Ambassador Noted That His CIA Contacts Told Him There Were Documents Pertaining To The Alleged Iraq-Niger Uranium Transaction And That The Source Of The Information Was The [Redacted] Intelligence Service.” (Senate Select Committee On Intelligence, “Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Assessments On Iraq,” 7/7/04)

However, “The DO [Director Of Operations At The CIA] Reports Officer Told Committee Staff That He Did Not Provide The Former Ambassador With Any Information About The Source Or Details …” (Senate Select Committee On Intelligence, “Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Assessments On Iraq,” 7/7/04)
10.) Wilson Claimed He Is A Non-Partisan “Centrist”:
Recently, Joe Wilson Refused To Admit He Is A Registered Democrat. NBC’s Jamie Gangel: “You are a Democrat?” Joe Wilson: “I exercise my rights as a citizen of this country to participate in the selection of my leaders and I am proud to do so. I did so in the election in 2000 by contributing not just to Al Gore's campaign, but also to the Bush-Cheney campaign.” (NBC’s “Today Show,” 7/14/05)

“[Wilson] Insist[s] He Remained A Centrist At Heart.” (Scott Shane, “Private Spy And Public Spouse Live At Center Of Leak Case,” The New York Times, 7/5/05)

Joe Wilson Is A Registered Democrat. (District Of Columbia Voter Registrations, Accessed 7/14/05)

Joseph Wilson Has Donated Over $8,000 To Democrats Including $2,000 To John Kerry For President In 2003, $1,000 To Hillary Clinton’s (D-NY) HILLPAC In 2002 And $3,000 To Al Gore In 1999. (The Center For Responsive Politics Website, www.opensecrets.org, Accessed 7/12/05)

Wilson Endorsed John Kerry For President In October 2003 And Advised The Kerry Campaign. (David Tirrell-Wysocki, “Former Ambassador Wilson Endorses Kerry In Presidential Race,” The Associated Press, 10/23/03)

“[Wilson] Admits ‘It Will Be A Cold Day In Hell Before I Vote For A Republican, Even For Dog Catcher.’” (Scott Shane, “Private Spy And Public Spouse Live At Center Of Leak Case,” The New York Times, 7/5/05)

Has Joe Wilson told us the name of the person who he says asked him to go to Niger and check out the yellowcake deal? What is that person's name?

Or did it happen like this, says Joe?

From: anonymous@dickcheney.com

To: Joe

Subject: Check out the yellowcake deal

Joe,

Could you to go Niger and check this out for us?

Thanks,

Anynymous(who works in the Vice President's office)

So, Anonymouse, what is your conclusion? This is a formidable cut and paste job, but to what end? Joe Wilson is a liar, and he somehow convinced the vast majority of Americans that Bush, Cheney & Co,, were the liars? And, to accomplish this extraordinary feat? Smoke and mirrors? Masterful control of the Media? Hallucinogenic drugs on the glue on our IRS envelopes? How did this man so deceive the American public?
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i didnt say that. what it does show is that his trip was a junket. his research was shoddy, which is largly why it was tossed aside by the intelligence community so much so that it was not even briefed to the pres. Thats why it was descredited.

His conclusions were proved right later, but basically by accident. Rico's enthralling "re-enactment" of Joe's trip, while obviously over-exageratted, is essentially the extent of Joe's research. He asked all of them. That is why his research was discredited. Cause it was crap. The fact that his conclusion turned out to be right is irrelevelant. Its like you or me advising that Iraq will get worse (or get better, chose either one) and then when that happens, we go see i told you. But we haven't done the research so no one is gonna fucking pay attention to us. Of course in joe's case, he didn't do the research and everyone paid attention to it. I can do guess work too.

To be fair, OBL is touting the fact that Muslims pay only 2 1/2 % taxes. Traditionally, high taxes have been a hallmark of the Democratic Party propsals. Otherwise, it is clear that the Dems, Olbermann, and OBL have MUCH in common.

how do you guys get so off topic? No matter what the thread is about the stuff is always the same. Health care, Wilson, Surge, on and on.
Every thread. Every time.

and i think those 2 and a half percent aren't taxes. Its alms to the poor, one of the pillars of islam. Its not really a tax so to speak, more like "forced charity".

ok.....so yeah.... i guess its pretty much a tax. lol.

"oh yeah? So you're sucking his dick now? Good for him. Nothing like putting leftist pussy in his place."

Congratulations! You deserve a prize for getting the punchline, all by your own precious little self!

Do you still flinch wildly when someone turns on the light, dear sweet amoeba?

The leftists at the usual websites are all claiming the OBL tape is a "fake", that it contains Democratic talking points as a ruse, etc. The truth is that they refuse to believe it's real, they still believe 9/11 was one giant conspiracy, they do in fact share many of the same ideas as OBL but they just don't want to own up to it. Ducking responsibility and refusing to face reality, yet another hallmark of the KO/Kos Kids/DUmmies/Puffington Post crowd.

Oh and dear anonymous poster, the Olbyloons here constantly change the subject when it concerns their dear Olbermann. Not one has had the guts to stand up and admit that Olbermann was forced to issue a retraction of his ill-advised Michael Vick support comment. Not one can face the fact that he used an internet spoof site as a "news source". There's a long list of things that the Olbyloons won't admit to about their buddy Olby. So instead they try and change the subject and turn this board into WarWatch, BushWatch, GOPWatch, anything but what the board was designed to be. Because they know what we say about him here is true. He's a hack. A politically-biased hack who is a shill for the Democratic party. He's not a journalist-just a sports guy who the sports crowd can't stand. He's got a long history of washing out of jobs everyone he's ever been and he's continuing to alienate co-workers in his current job. This is not a man to be admired. He is to be pittied for having the dumbest, and possibly most psychotic fans who ever walked the face of the earth. But at least there aren't that many of them as his ratings clearly indicate. Third place for the month of August! Olby must be so proud of coming in third!

Brandon:

"The leftists at the usual websites are all claiming the UBL tape is a fake.".....Are they "ALL" claiming that Brandon, or are you just using your wild imagination again? What is strange about you is your ongoing morbid fascination with extreme posts you find on various websites.

"that it contains Democratic talking points as a ruse.".....It really doesn't matter WHAT so called "talking points" you think it contains. Since when would any intellegent erson take their enemies words at face value anyway? .... Except in modern day America, and only when it suits your own political purposes?

"The truth is that they still don't believe it is real,".....WHO doesn't believe it is real Brandon? A few extremists on the other side, .... extremists like YOU are on the right? Nothing like painting one side with a broad brush, eh Brandon?

"they still believe 9/11 was one giant conspiracy.".....THIS from the SAME poster that I once got to admit publicly on this very blog that there are plenty of 9/11 conpiracy believers on BOTH sides. Once again Brandon, dismissing all of your political opposition as 'extremists' makes spouting out your own talking points so much easier for you, doesn't it. Like I've said several times before, the ONLY believers in 9/11 conspriracy theories I know personally are avowed evangelistic Christian CONSERVATIVES.

"they do in fact share many of the same ideas as OBL but they just don't want to own up to it.".....Actually it is an outright LIE for you or anyone else to portray any of OBL's rants to ANY ideas FROM either side, but why would we expect more from a partisan rube like yourself? That said, has it never occurred to idiots like you that his messages are probably calculated to achieve speci