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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    November 27, 2007
    Countdown with Keith Olbermann - November 27th, 2007

    "COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN" (8:00 P.M.-9:00 P.M. ET)

    Host: Keith Olbermann

    Topics/Guests:

    • POLITICS OF WAR AND PEACE: Richard Wolffe, Newsweek chief White House correspondent
    • PRES. BUSH AND STATE SECRETS: Jonathan Turley, George Washington University law professor
    • “WHO IS NORMAN LLOYD”: Norman Lloyd, actor and producer

    President Bush flubs some names which means he wasn't really involved in the Middle East peace summit in Annapolis, MD, declares Der Fuhrer. Karl Rove "rewriting history" claiming that the Gulf War was "congress' war!" Zing! He's lying! Obviously. Spy games or something. Olbsession Bill-O attacked again for coming down on a vehemently anti American film while the network sells ad space for the movie (as if Bill ran the advertising department?). Laura Schlessinger too. Oh and Norman Lloyd. Another whiney night of the ferocious Keith Oralmann.

    Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly book Culture Warrior

    #5: 343 days until the next Presidential election. Thanks for the heads up, Fat Ass. I bet you've got it marked V-C day on your Calendar for Victory for Clinton. Mispronunciations are not the faux pas only of the dummy, supposedly. Not that Keith has ever mispronounced anything. Never. Ever. Like, last week. The President had a "cameo" at the peace conference in Annapolis. Olby, ever trying to demonstrate his superiority and his alpha male status, pronounces the two leaders' (Israel and the PLO) names correctly. Congratulations. Do you want a cookie? Maybe a bottle of merlot? I've got some really fancy merlot that cost me a hair more than pocket lint. Of course, this was all about a photo op. Wolffie makes a joke as he slides, mispronouncing Olbersturmfuhrer's name. Wolffe, probably unappreciated on OlbyPlanet, actually praises President Bush (before criticizing him) for engaging the peace process while declaring there had never been any involvement before. Some yammering about how the President isn't really involved, isn't doing hard work or something. WSJ cited by Olby. Great thanks. Whatever.

    Karl Rove, aka Machiavelli [Ding!], "blames congress" for authorizing the war in Iraq. The Huff and Puff blows its way in to help Herr Olbermann out. Karl Rove's comments are the work of a "shameless, remorseless perhaps soulless political animal." Easy there, tiger. It's all about money, speaking engagements, etc. George Orwell and 1984 references referenced! [Ding!][Ding!] Eric Blair (George Orwell) should be suing Olby for copyright violations, says Jabba himself. "Is this not 1984?" [Ding!] [Ding!] [Ding!] [Ding!] The bell broke. Even if Rove told the truth, he's still lying!

    #4: The most yawn inducing segment with the ever dramatic Jonathan Turley. Snoooozzzeeeee. A "top Republican", Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA), is trying to stop the President from being able to do eeeevil secret things. Monkeys will fly out of the President's butt, apparently. Turley mentions his involvement in the "Area 51" case; oh that one! Right. Ever important. Judges are afraid. Of what, we do not know. No wait, they're lazy. Area 51. Reynolds. Lie. Privilege. New York Times. Supreme Court does not understand Turley's brilliance. Punish Alberto Gonzales! It's "rather clear" what the President ordered is a "federal crime." Turley has a wish, he wants to put the genie back in the bottle in terms of the "privilege." Great thanks and it was "most harrowing."

    #3: All consuming Olbsession O'Reilly time. Jesus, Mary and Joseph. Bill O'Reilly "attacking the USO." O'Reilly, unlike Olbermann, left his desk and went to Afghanistan. Do you know how many stories Olbermann has done outside of his office? Guess? Any? None! Zing! Oralmann needs to after "right wing" Laura Schlessinger. Is "O'Reilly drunk?" "He sounds drunk!" Lay off the bloody Merlot! Keith "Chicken and Waffles" Olbermann went on to highlight O'Reilly's entire show. You wonder why his ratings are up? Olby's? Well, there.....uh......limp. O'Reilly also wanted to kick Mark Cuban "in the basketballs!" HA! Penis/Testicle joke! I love those. I wonder what Katy thinks of them. More nonsense. Nothing to see here. Murdoch, Fox Noise [Ding!, O'Reilly, care only about the money. Not the troop.

    #2: Keeping Tabs. Ouch. Politicians getting celebrity endorsements. HOLD THE MERLOT! WHAT IS THIS! KEITH, ARE YOU CONCERNED ONLY ABOUT THE MONEY? After drooling at the thought of reading Sen. Kennedy's memoirs which Mr. Kennedy will get millions for, out pops Fat Ass's book! You know, the one that he didn't write and is merely a compilation of all his Speshul Reeducation Komments.

    #1: Norman Lloyd. They argue over who has admired whom longer. Vomit.

    In the Media Maters minute, FBN for putting on the air an "online shopper" who was in fact an employee of the National Retail Federation. The NRF blamed fox, so did Olby. Naturally. Silver: FEMA for having a ringer (employee) as a questioner at another news conference (source: AP). Gold: Republican (obs) Mitt Romney! Would he put a muslim in his cabinet? Who knows, who cares? They do in loony tune land. Talking Points Memo.

    NAME

    Olbermann's book The book that bears Olbermann's went through the roof to #24,365 at amazon.com, but "Culture Warrior" is #7,749. (It's that 2-for-$25 sale!) The OlbyTome crated at #134,674 at Barnes and Noble; O'Reilly's book is #1,727 there, and is one of the top five books of 2006 per Publishers Weekly. Reliable numbers for Monday's hour of spin were unavailable, but you can rest easy believing O'Reilly walloped him. Tonight's MisterMeter reading: 2 [LOW]


    Posted by Edward Schatz | Permalink | Comments (167) | | View blog reactions

    167 Comments

    Typical peice of shit from Keith.

    I have never seen someone so obsessed with someone as Keith is with Bill. I think it really is some serious man love that is not being returned and its driving Keith crazy.

    I know I spelled piece wrong.....

    Keith is still a jackass.

    Keith's Bill obsession is spooky
    Psychiatrists will tell you Keith's kooky
    When Keith's on the set
    Bad ratings they'll get
    They're booing and not chanting "Mookie"

    I guess Olbermann has given up making O'Reilly WPITW and is now just going to devote a special segment to him each night. O'Reilly did the unspeakable. He showed his appreciation for the troops. How dare he. If Olbermann is so popular with the troops, why doesn't he venture out of his studio and grace them with his presence? None of the zombies, who defend Olbermann on this site, will defend this.

    'Redacted' continues to bomb. No pun intended, of course. Has Olbyonesidedkanoby mentioned this fact?

    It will do well in Sadi Arabia, UAE, Iran, and Pakistan. That will help Olbermann's cause.

    One criticism of Keith: Bush did butcher Olmert's name, but Keith has some hearing problems if he really thinks Bush pronounced it "Elmo." It would be funny and all over YouTube if it were true but it's not. Bush's pronounciation was more like "Ohmut" or "Ohmur."

    One criticism of ESchatz: Karl Rove was rewriting history on Charlie Rose - I saw the interview live - about the CURRENT Iraq War, not the GULF WAR. He was specifically telling Rose that the Bush administration was against even having an Iraq War Resolution bill so close to the midterms. I knew that was BS and couldn't stop laughing for a full minute. Keith even showed at quote from WHITEHOUSE.GOV press releases saying the Bush administration sought and approved that October 2002 war bill.

    Actually Troll, I like Michael Moore. We need more like him. I would prefer that he shave and dress a little more 'conservative' while pointing out conservative hypocrisy though.

    Posted by: Mike at August 8, 2007 3:58 PM


    Seen "Sicko" yet? Devastating to the corporatocracy.

    Posted by: Sir Loin of Beef at August 8, 2007 4:18 PM

    * "showed and quoted from Whitehouse.gov" documents I meant to say.

    Factor, I do think you underestimate our dear loons with this statement:

    "None of the zombies, who defend Olbermann on this site, will defend this."

    I have no doubt that at least one will crawl out from the woodwork and try to while casting aspersions against us all.

    Grammie

    ya know, after watching wolfie again tonite, he just kinda reminds me of the great kazoo on the jetsons. it's the head. nothing personal. MSN-BS

    Olbermanns obsession with Oreilly and Foxnews is unhealthy. THis means either he is a viewer like the millions of us or he just cant get over that 500,ooo viewer ceiling. I think his book only sold 3000 copies which is funny, and his NBC NFL appearance has lost viewers for NBC... when will GE say uncle.

    Truthguys, I know you apparently can't stand Keith, but nobody cares about his halftime shtick on the Sunday night NFL show or his score rundowns. Where's the proof that HIS appearance is bringing the show down?

    The whole presentation of the show itself, with Bob Costas and Keith at one table and Tiki Barber and others separated from them is awkward and the show itself is not as exciting as say, Chris Berman's ESPN show. But he can be annoying too.

    At least Keith's halftime segment is SOMEWHAT entertaining, comparatively speaking, though not always accurate. Example, his most recent weekly "Worst Person" rant was misguided in criticizing Denver's punter Todd Sauerbrun for punting to the Bear's ace return man Devin Hester, who returned two kicks for TDs to help the Bears beat Denver on Sunday.

    His rant should've been directed at Denver head coach Mike Shanahan since HE made the decision to keep kicking the ball to Hester, not Sauerbrun.

    Chris Collinsworth nominated Sauerbrun for the segment, so he is to blame too. But the segment, misguided as it turned out, was pretty funny and entertaining at the time.

    "In the Media Maters [sic] minute, FBN for putting on the air an "online shopper" who was in fact an employee of the National Retail Federation."

    ESchatz, the left-wing echo chamber (MMFA->Countdown) took a night off this night. Also, there have been no MMFA items on FBN since October 12. I'm just sayin'.

    TJ posts:

    "I know I spelled piece wrong.....

    Keith is still a jackass."

    END QUOTE

    Don't worry about the spelling TJ. Only these liberal spelling Nazis would even acknowledge it. They can't argue the real merits or substance on anything so they pick at any little think their Simple SImon brains can react to.


    Olby's attacks on O'Reilly and FNC just shows their dep seated fears and envy. Olby knows a better man when he sees one. It comes witht he territory. Just as the world doesn't back us because we are the sole remaining superpower. And like GW and O'Reilly, real men with class, honor and dignity, they don't acknowledge anyting these pussies puke out of their mouths. And, I could care less what the rest of the world thinks about us, FUCK'EM.

    Posts Chuck:

    "One criticism of Keith: Bush did butcher Olmert's name"

    END QUOTE

    Just one Chuck? Olby is just another piece of shit sitting up in his Ivory Tower looking down on the rest of us and opens his big, no. 2 wash tubbed mouth when someone slips (only Republicans and anyone of Faith).

    His remark about the "Three Six Pix" was one of the biggest blown gaffs I've heard mainly because Olby has never been an athlete. Not in elementary, not HS and damn sure not in college. The only physical contact he ever participated was wrestling his only buddy in highschool while he struggled with the question of why little girls laughed at him or if he was gay, cough, cough, a faggot.

    "LORETTA"
    Another loser fan AND obviously
    Loretta's vibrator fell on the return key.

    Hey everybody! We know have a good idea of A N O N Y M O U S' physical description based on the demographic of the person willing to pay $8.00 for REDACTED.....

    5' 8" 245 lb, 46 inch waisted white male with goatee and pony tail...gray hair and receeding hairline. Usually greasy in appearance.

    He usually wears stained Birkenstocks (without socks), faded blue jeans and T-Shirt which frequently has the faded iron on print, "SWIFTBOAT THIS!"

    Never grins except at APPLE commercials. Teeth are yellow.

    No jewelry, (especially a wedding band).

    Anyone want to provide his local "looking for love!" newspaper "personal ad?"

    Lying administration....
    Hw about your boy Clinton's stump speech yesterday asserting that he has always been against the Iraq war. And the next 24 hours was filled with direct quotes from the former president in SUPPORT of the Iraq invasion. Thats a typical Clinton flip-flop.

    Is he a liar or just plain delusional like Olbermann?

    Spare me your 'lying' rhetoric. Its tired.

    What's really amusing is that the Clinton thing was front and center on HuffPost last night but has now been placed in a nondescript location on the website after nearly 1,000 posts decried HuffPost for making "their" side look bad. Well their side DOES look bad when Clinton gets caught lying yet again.

    And Cee? Uh uh. Guarantee you that dear A N O N Y M O U S is another of Olbermann's middle-aged (single) groupies. Note the intense hatred for married women with kids, note the rage against the Christmas season. Bitter--Party of One?

    "I supported the president when he asked for authority to stand up against weapons of mass destruction in Iraq," Former President Bill Clinton 5/19/2003


    ###
    What does the old cliche say....Success has many fathers but failure is an orphan?......

    The anti-war left's continued drive to prematurely withdraw against the fight for freedom on religion and thought in Iraq makes poor ol' Clinton lie.....What a shame!

    He and his wife gotta keep the kooks happy if they want that nomination.....Too bad there are their own words and actions at the beginning of The Iraq War to show us all how quickly they will lie to try to seem agreeable....

    Oh well..."back to the future" will inculde such lies I suppose.

    STOP THE WAR!.....CUT THE FUNDS NOW!....

    And this is my post today, the 1,673rd day since the declaration of Mission Accomplished in Iraq.....

    I am cee, good night and good luck.

    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

    "There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration's policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

    "I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

    "Lefties: Leave these pathetic drowning rats alone to stew in each other's juices. Get yourselves out in the street and fight this criminal administration in ways that really mean something, and that are noted by more than a handful of keyboard heroes!" Sir Loin of Beef

    "American liberals need to face these truths: The demand for self-government was and remains strong in Iraq despite all our mistakes and the violent efforts of al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias to disrupt it." DEMOCRAT Bob Kerrey

    "If we end up saying that because these people are committing these acts of terrorism in Iraq or Afghanistan, that we shouldn't have done the removal of Saddam or the removal of the Taliban, then we are making a fundamental mistake about our own future, about security, about the values we should be defending in the world." TONY BLAIR

    "You can't bring the troops home if you give George Bush $100 billion to wage this war. You're not supporting them. You're keeping them in harm's way." CINDY SHEEHAN

    "There is no doubt ... that Al Qaeda is operating in Iraq. There is no doubt that we've had to take very strong measures against them. And there is no doubt that the Iraqi security forces have got to be strong enough to be able to withstand not just the violence that has been between the Sunni and the Shia population and the Sunni insurgency, but also Al Qaeda itself." GORDON BROWN

    "People of America: the world is following your news in regards to your invasion of Iraq, for people have recently come to know that, after several years of tragedies of this war, the vast majority of you want it stopped. Thus, you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven't made a move worth mentioning. On the contrary, they continue to agree to the spending of tens of billions to continue the killing and war there." OSAMA BIN LADEN

    "Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda--worse for our society. It's as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was."
    KEITH OLBERMANN

    "Thinking such as your's is a cancer on our nation that needs to be cut out." MIKE posted 10/4/07 7:02PM

    My own review: crude cinematography, clumsy dialogue, ham-handed. A story with tremendous

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 28, 2007 8:37 AM


    Could it be that he knew well that this sort of message would find an audience among those with a particular political viewpoint, and particular and highly prized pretensions, and a particular and deep disdain and contempt for average Americans, to the point that any shlock he turned out would be excused and deemed as an artistic diamond in the rough, as long as it confirmed the self-satisfied opinions of this oh-so-self-important close-minded set?

    Yep.

    Cecelia was right about you.

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 28, 2007 10:46 AM

    I'm also right about you, Capon

    our review of my review, since it appears you have not seen the film, Cecelia, lacks the nuance the film itself. I actually think you might find watching the film a useful, albeit not enjoyable experience. It's always difficult to define the artist's intent, but I believe the artist wanted us to be troubled, to be asking questions. Certainly, that was the effect the film had on me. I am sure there was no effort to confirm existing prejudices, if you will. If so, the film failed miserably.

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 28, 2007 11:01 AM


    Oh, I have no objections to seeing the film, Capon, and I certainly based my remarks upon your "review" of it.

    I'm quite sure I'll be far far less "troubled" by any argument, accusation, or implication in the film, than I am by your review and what it implied about you.

    Why would anyone go see such a universally panned film unless they were willing to accept the propoganda it promises to deliver?

    Spending 8 bucks and wasting two hours on critically deemed 'junk' just shows you either have too much time on your hands, or are anxious to embrace the notion that our troops are animals.

    Lets not be pure, and think that all our troops are saints. But any film that paints them with a broad brush as rapists and murders should do poorly within the US. And any american that does piss away 8 bucks on this waste of time, can claim to be open minded, but is merely a anti-american zealot.

    You'd have more of a leg to stand on if the movie had ANY redeeming characteristics. Unfortunatley, you choose to go even though nearly all early reviews panned it's writing, storyline, acting, directing, and cinematography. Shame.

    Every eight dollars spent- Mark Cuban sees as an endorsement of his anti-US viewpoint. Bravo!

    Don't forget, A N O N Y M O U S self-rightously proclaimed his distaste in the commercialization of the holiday so he has many options to spend those hard earned dollars....

    It is likely after the deep meditation on Christmas Day Michael Moore's latest will be placed in the DVD player.

    ONLY $14.95.....MAKES A GREAT GIFT FOR THIS HOLIDAY SEASON!

    http://www.michaelmoore.com/sicko/dvd/

    Well, it is certainly an easy route to avoid dealing with difficult issues, Cecelia. I am pleased you could find a target for your customary and gratuitous slaps.

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 28, 2007 11:20 AM


    Customary but never gratuitous, Capon.

    You REALLY earn it...

    I'm no great reviewer, but at least I have enough sense and integrity to go beyond some gut eruption in looking at the film.


    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 28, 2007 8:37 AM


    One thing is for sure, you had the whole theatre to yourself.

    Easy way out?

    It was panned... I love James Bond but boycotted "The Living Daylights" because the critics called it the worst 007 movie ever.

    So wasting the money and time on a poorly made politcally driven movie is assinine. Even if it does jibe with our viewpoints.

    I instantly thought of FLUCKER when I saw this review at Rotten Tomatoes "But De Palma has taken all of this one step further -- with Redacted he has created war porn for the cognoscenti." by Paul Brenner @ Filmcritic.com.

    There is no doubt that FLUCKER is part of the cognoscenti because he strains to tell us every day, and sometimes more often, that he is.

    Grammie

    WHY- do you go to all movies that get universal bad reviews or just the ones that reinforce your politics?

    Simple question that proves alot about your mindset.

    "...you can tell that culture is only one area that is severely lacking in their lives."


    ###
    This coming from the guy who is proud to proclaim that Bruce Sprigsteen always makes him cry.....

    mental midget.....the paragon of high-brow culture!

    It is the best movie about the middle east since 'Ishtar'.

    And you idiots are too stupid to see it.

    Part and parcel of Bobo's approach to life. If he thinks it, likes it and/or enjoys something those who don't share his opinion/viewpoint are morally, intellectually and culturally deprived.

    A true man of the people, our Bobo, as long as he doesn't have to get too close and everyone kowtows in awe inspired obedience to BOBO!

    Grammie

    It seems that De Palma is no longer considered a great director until he makes another movie to cover up this pile of shit that you love to defend. Google the reviews.

    Even the liberals critics are having trouble finding redeeming characteristics of "redaction". They love the message.

    When Mr. dePalma makes an engaging film about the events surrounding one of the thousands of random beheadings in Iraq (perhaps one about an American soldier's body desicration...that should be petty easy to dramatize as well) and the morality and justice surrounding those acts of evil, I will give his REDACTED equal time....

    You see leftist twits, the people (American soldiers) responsible for the CRIME Mr. dePalma dramatized in REDACTED were brought to justice under law.....No leftist in Hollywood, on this board (I am looking at you mental midget and anon with spaces), or in the elite academic community seem to care about those much more abundant crimes against humanity that have remained unpunished....Instead the 1 in the 1:thousands gets the attention because it fits the pathetic leftist anti-war ideology.

    How about a film about the justice given to the headless or mutilated after execution, gents?....How about it?

    What do you say to the families who's children or spouses come home missing body parts because some radical islamist demanded justice in a little hut somewhere, anonymously?

    I think that would make a GREAT film!

    FLUCKER, temper, temper, temper.

    You know you have a problem with that because you don't suffer fools gladly, or so you said.

    It is your curse in life that you are that which you despise and there is no escaping yourself.

    I only mention this because I want to help you find a way, especially during this liturgical season, to help you cope with the burden you carry without lashing out at everyone else.

    Grammie

    Any film that paints men and women who volunteer to serve their country as violent uneducated racists in an attempt to foment hatred overseas is not worthy of anyone's money that lives in this country. Anyone who enjoys this movie does not just hate the administration or its policy, they hate their fellow man. There is a stark difference between making a film against American policy and making a Josef Goebbels style propaganda film that paints a bulls eye on our soldiers. I don't kneed to watch a snuff film to know it is not worth watching.

    Ah the college professor and students are smart theory-

    Never met a college kid that thought they knew more about life than a college grad? Reality is the best teacher of students. Not class load.

    Anyone that saw redacted is an idiot. That is the new litmus test. They tell you it sucks on all levels and you spent two hours on it anyways. Maybe the "Bee Movie" was sold out?

    Amen Factor....

    and mental midget....We know accents other than New England's Ted Kenedy's make the leftist twitch in agony, but I assure you, holding simple mistakes like pronouncing a name differently than is usually acceptable is a common flub that is frequent even among the elite in Boston or New York.....Was it not the fine Senator Kennedy himself who kept calling his collegue from Chicago, "Osama?"

    The Texan in The White House seems to be doing just fine against your leftist ruling elite, dear mental midget....even with his limited pronouncing abilities....

    Bush seems to have no prblem saying the words....."IRAQ WAR FUNDING!"

    STOP THE WAR!.....CUT THE FUNDS NOW!....

    And this is my post today, the 1,673rd day since the declaration of Mission Accomplished in Iraq.....

    I am cee, good night and good luck.

    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

    "There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration's policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

    "I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

    "Lefties: Leave these pathetic drowning rats alone to stew in each other's juices. Get yourselves out in the street and fight this criminal administration in ways that really mean something, and that are noted by more than a handful of keyboard heroes!" Sir Loin of Beef

    "American liberals need to face these truths: The demand for self-government was and remains strong in Iraq despite all our mistakes and the violent efforts of al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias to disrupt it." DEMOCRAT Bob Kerrey

    "If we end up saying that because these people are committing these acts of terrorism in Iraq or Afghanistan, that we shouldn't have done the removal of Saddam or the removal of the Taliban, then we are making a fundamental mistake about our own future, about security, about the values we should be defending in the world." TONY BLAIR

    "You can't bring the troops home if you give George Bush $100 billion to wage this war. You're not supporting them. You're keeping them in harm's way." CINDY SHEEHAN

    "There is no doubt ... that Al Qaeda is operating in Iraq. There is no doubt that we've had to take very strong measures against them. And there is no doubt that the Iraqi security forces have got to be strong enough to be able to withstand not just the violence that has been between the Sunni and the Shia population and the Sunni insurgency, but also Al Qaeda itself." GORDON BROWN

    "People of America: the world is following your news in regards to your invasion of Iraq, for people have recently come to know that, after several years of tragedies of this war, the vast majority of you want it stopped. Thus, you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven't made a move worth mentioning. On the contrary, they continue to agree to the spending of tens of billions to continue the killing and war there." OSAMA BIN LADEN

    "Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda--worse for our society. It's as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was."
    KEITH OLBERMANN

    "Thinking such as your's is a cancer on our nation that needs to be cut out." MIKE posted 10/4/07 7:02PM

    There you go again.

    Try to turn your thoughts and soul to the message of this liturgical season to help you through those time when you lapse into ad hominems and become so flustered that you double post.

    Grammie

    KO is a one trick pony. Without O'Reilly, his life would lose all meaning.

    BTW, which democratic candidate is Keith endorsing?

    Hey Grammie....don't worry, the self-rightous man will make up for it all on St. Stephen's day....

    Try alittle bit harder poster at 12:34PM.....My point is that the dramatization of the "characters" in the horrific crime fit the stereotypes of the anti-American left.....and oh yes....it also fits the stereotypes of the islamic fundamentalist....

    Like I challenged....there are THOUSANDS of stories of "no judge or jury" beheadings in Iraq to that one story of rape and murder (that was punished under law)....Why no dramatization of one of thousands, dear pster at 12:34PM?....

    Does it not make good propaganda for the anti-American and vapid left?

    I was actually thinking of you last night. I opened a can of marinated onions that had gone bad. White, wrinkly, smelly.
    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 28, 2007 12:18 PM


    He was thinking either of you, Grammie or young mamas in tennis skirts who don't really play that cachet sport...or maybe both... it depends upon how much superiority he wishes to imply for himself...

    Hypocrisy is flying around this site.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 28, 2007 12:40 PM

    Well, then I fear for some mid-air collusion which might occur with the idiocy that flies around you... :D

    Cee, would you think that our resident cognoscenti, FLUCKER, being such a widely traveled renaissance man will celebrate on Dec 26 or Dec 27?

    How foolish of me. Of course, our extraordinarily pious FLUCKER will take advantage of the opportunity to worship and contemplate in both rites.

    Grammie

    Hypocrisy is flying around this site.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 28, 2007 12:40 PM


    Especially when you open your trap!

    Money raised on top of those costs can be spent on advertising and voter turnout. But when fundraising falls below burn rate, a campaign could go under unless drastic measures are taken.

    Posted by: at November 28, 2007 12:50 PM

    Okay, then... how many Asian busboys donating 25K do you think we need?

    Mmm, a simplistic and vapid post at 12:45PM to go along with the ideology.....

    Trouble fundraising?....another side-show to make the partisans feel good....No bad news from Iraq but something has to make the mind-numbing zoombies feel good.

    The Republican Presidential candidates are doing very well in their fundraising and the polls are competitive even with the "brand" being so damaged according to the kos kids....

    Oh and where is much of the money for the left's ruling elite's candidate coming from?....

    Industries that are simply looking out for their best interests....

    Politics as usual and yet another aspect of the hypocricy of the vapid anti-American left.

    Oh and the "wrong direction" mantra....tell that to Ms. Clinton who is part of the established leadership now for over 15 years but yet tries to sell herself as "change."

    We will see in Iowa if that lie gets past the dim-witted democrat caucus goers.

    Bobo, Cecelia nailed you.

    Your only defense is a spelling lesson and a very personal attack.

    You got nothing, Bobo, except venom.

    Grammie

    Cee and Cecelia, you may have heard this already but someone said that the missing $100 tip at the diner was bundled by the bus boys to make a contribution to Hillary.

    Grammie

    Ceals, do you mean collision ?
    I hear the best way to counter a hangover is to start with another drink.
    Bet you're already way ahead of me with the drink.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 28, 2007 12:53 PM

    Sweety, drink or no drink, silk worms are way ahead of you... :D

    Cee and Cecelia, you may have heard this already but someone said that the missing $100 tip at the diner was bundled by the bus boys to make a contribution to Hillary.

    Grammie
    Posted by: Janet Hawkins at November 28, 2007 1:00 PM

    hahaha!

    Grammie, I tried to post something to you earlier and the URLs I linked wouldn't let it go through.

    Thank you for the Iowahawk link! I love him!

    I recommend Scrappleface (wonderfully funny!), manolo at shoeblog.com (satire at its best AND vital shoe info!) and for balance the hilarious BorowitzReport.

    RK and all those who dislike Chavez will enjoy this from Reuters.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071128/ts_nm/venezuela_referendum_cnn_dc_1

    Grammie

    Funny how you can mention the word venom without looking over your shoulder for a bolt of lightning to come crashing thru your window.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 28, 2007 1:05 PM


    You don't have any lighting, WDYT. You're lucky you can work up the spark it takes to go anonymous and post something that agrees with yourself.

    Do you really think that there aren't troops that are "violent, uneducated racists "?

    Reality is a bitter pill to swallow to the small minded Factor's and cee's of the world.

    Posted by: at November 28, 2007 12:34 PM

    This film is far from "reality". This film attempts to hype a single tragic incident into an indictment of all military personnel. There are bad people in all walks of life of life. Would you see a film that takes horrible crime committed by one of your liberal sacred cows and hangs it around the neck of an entire group? I think not.

    You are about as isolated in what America is thinking as you are typing away on your computer in your little office rather than using that time to educate yourself on new medical findings to help your patients.


    Posted by: at November 28, 2007 1:11 PM


    Cee, surely you've done enough research to help this patient.

    Rx: Zyprexa 10mg SL q 12 hours psychosis... :D

    I am tired of you liberals stating that you have your finger on the pulse of America. Please. The only thing you have your finger on is the goblin in your nose.

    Bobo, "Thanks Patsy" is nothing more or less than the only reasonable one can make to Patsy's tripe.

    Of course with your superior intellect and sophistication you could no doubt engage Patsy in some fascinating exchanges.

    Let me give you a chance. Patsy said:

    "Vampiria makes a Bovine out of herself, followed by Hag-zilla.

    And now BovineQueen wants to keep embarrassing them.

    OK, you THREE (3) stupid cows, namely, Vampiria, Hag-zilla and BovineQueen,
    PROVE! that
    "Pricele$$ at November 27, 2007 11:33 PM"
    was "Patsy"
    This ought to be good.

    Posted by: DUMBSHIT! I mean Bovine! at November 28, 2007 11:46 AM "

    Me response:

    "Thanks Patsy!

    Grammie

    Posted by: Janet Hawkins at November 28, 2007 12:28 PM "

    Bobo, I am too dull to sift out the finer points that Patsy made here. Most of his comments follow this pattern. I don't have your incisive analytical skills to made intelligent comments to Patsy so I simply follow RK's lead and tell our one trick pony "thanks"

    Why don't you whip out an outline pointing out the finer intellectual points that Patsy made and I will engage him on this when he returns.

    Grammie

    Bet you can't wait until the GOP candidate is selected for you to make a contribution.
    Because, afterall, we all know how open minded you are.
    TDF
    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 28, 2007 1:21 PM

    WDYT,... when it comes to being so flexible as to post a lot of anonymous posts in order to develop your very own peanut gallery... you're so open-minded that the pea that functioned as your brain fell out...

    As I said, your reservoir is empty unless you talk about "names".
    OCD indeed !

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 28, 2007 1:32 PM


    THIS from Why Don't You Think who often post anonymously in order to concur with Why Don't You Think.. :D

    It's been fun chatting with you, but unlike yourself, some of us actually have gainful employment.
    Ta ta wench.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 28, 2007 1:35 PM

    At last we find some area of agreement.

    Anything that keeps you busy and off the internet IS gainful employment...

    Darn! I was so hoping that Bobo would give me an outline so I could try to understand Patsy's deep symbolism and wisdom.

    Grammie

    One last thing, Do you think the gay marriage/abortion thang will help you in this election, republicans ?

    Check Pew's survey above.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 28, 2007 1:40 PM

    Well, the logically corresponding question to you then WDYT, considering the climate you're alluding to, is if you think failure by your country in Iraq will help you?

    You can only keep your fingers crossed...


    Darn! I was so hoping that Bobo would give me an outline so I could try to understand Patsy's deep symbolism and wisdom.

    Grammie

    Posted by: Janet Hawkins at November 28, 2007 1:42 PM

    Well, Grammie, I think we'll just have to go to the default mode of thinking them all loving and compassionate humans in everyway.

    Let Capon's example be a guide for you. He may think he's better than the average middle class mom, wouldn't want to be seen with her and will even use her as a highly contemptuous and negative reference on a blogboard... but he wishes her and others who don't qualify for Medicaid or Medicare (such as HIMSELF...) taxpayer subsidized health care...

    We are in the presence of saints...

    Darn! I was so hoping that Bobo would give me an outline so I could try to understand Patsy's deep symbolism and wisdom.

    Grammie

    Posted by: Janet Hawkins at November 28, 2007 1:42 PM

    Wouldn't that be something? Don't expect much, though.

    Cecelia, scrappleface will be a regular for me from now on.

    I just read "Bush Welcomes Gore with Low-Carbon Ceremony"

    Absolutely priceless.

    Grammie

    Absolutely priceless.

    Grammie

    Posted by: Janet Hawkins at November 28, 2007 2:54 PM

    and even pricele$$... :D

    (I'm so glad you like it!)

    I don't suppose either of you simpletons have bothered to look at the target demographics on this film have you? Let me give you some hints:

    (1) Not disaffected middle aged white men who have never served their country but are in easy chairs conducting imaginary tactical operations of an Occupation they don't understand.

    (2) Not plump mothers of 2.4 children who have never picked up a tennis racket but are wearing cheap, gauche tennis skirts, driving Suburbans with faded "W" stickers they can no longer fill up, chatting mindlessly on their cellphones whilst driving dumb and plump tone deaf, clumsy children with dazzling white teeth to violin and dance lessons.

    (3) Not people maxing-out their credit cards buying cheap, useless crap for the holidays.

    posted by spaced out philby


    Oh, the compassion, it just oozes........

    What, that you're a hypocrite? You just did. Thanks, philby! (*) {+}---

    Bobo, where is my outline?

    I have difficulty believing that you would pass up a chance to not only display your intellect but to also lay bare my abysmal lack of such.

    In case you forgot "Why don't you whip out an outline pointing out the finer intellectual points that Patsy made and I will engage him on this when he returns.

    Grammie
    Posted by: Janet Hawkins at November 28, 2007 1:25 PM"

    Grammie

    How did that hurricane forecast turn out this year?
    How about that forecast that said this would be the hottest year in 150 years?
    Not so good a.
    Keep pushing junk science. You will be lumped in with the rest of the laughing stocks of history.

    Went to go see "Redacted" the other day. Had to leave because I couldn't hear the audio. Every minute or two half the audience would chant "Allah Be Praised"

    "Went to go see "Redacted" the other day."

    Why in the world did you do that after O'Reilly told you not to?

    Every minute or two half the audience would chant "Allah Be Praised"

    Posted by: at November 28, 2007 4:30 PM


    Speced out was one of them, slob another. Pathetic.

    "So, no comment from Cee or Johnnie-Jeff about the taxpayer-funded Rudy! trysts. At least they talk about moral values, I suppose." Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 28, 2007 7:05 PM

    When this site becomes "Rudywatch", I'll comment on it.

    Thanks Patsy!

    Grammie

    "LORETTA"
    Another loser fan AND obviously
    Loretta's vibrator fell on the return key.

    Posted by: at November 28, 2007 8:36 AM

    Funniest post today

    My own review: crude cinematography, clumsy dialogue, ham-handed. A story with tremendous potential at the box office, squandered. Then, ask yourself: Why would some of the greatest film talents alive today produce something like this? Could it be they were not looking at a slick spell-binder? Could it be they saw some integrity in the type of film they have produced? Some larger purpose?

    Yeah that's my goal in life, taking guidance from the oh so brilliant people in hollywood. They've got a great cumulative track record for good decision making. Give us all a break moron and go back to watching E!

    You see, the morons at this site wouldn't actually ever see these movies they pan, they just love to talk about them.
    They're afraid if they do see them , there may be some truth or revelations in them, and then it would throw them way off balance.

    But they probably don't stray much further than the typical Bruce Willis or Adam Sandler type flick.
    Based on their posts at this site, you can tell that culture is only one area that is severely lacking in their lives.


    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 28, 2007 11:52 AM

    Oh Please great Yoda enlighten us dirty masses.

    FYI : most movies I attend are independent -type flicks.
    I love when the Philadelphia Film Festival comes to town where there are great movies from all over the world.

    Did u ever notice that there are never any movies that reinforce YOUR politics ?
    Ever ask yourself why?

    {Pssssst: Great directors don't make movies about why torture, war and ignorance are preferable ways for governments to conduct the people's business }


    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 28, 2007 12:06 PM

    YOU seriously a cartoon. That personality can't exist in real life can it??

    Any film that paints men and women who volunteer to serve their country as violent uneducated racists in an attempt to foment hatred overseas is not worthy of anyone's money that lives in this country. Anyone who enjoys this movie does not just hate the administration or its policy, they hate their fellow man. There is a stark difference between making a film against American policy and making a Josef Goebbels style propaganda film that paints a bulls eye on our soldiers. I don't kneed to watch a snuff film to know it is not worth watching.

    Posted by: The Factor at November 28, 2007 12:14 PM

    Well said.

    A Noble Peace Prize winner with a president who is unlikely to EVER win a Noble Peace Prize.
    Priceless !

    Yeah the Nobel Peace Prize has become as important as best grip at the Daytime Emmys

    McCool, I can guarantee that we have several Boboish types posting here.

    I know, it defies logic but there you have it.

    Grammie

    Yeah the Nobel Peace Prize has become as important as best grip at the Daytime Emmys
    Posted by: McCool at November 28, 2007 10:05 PM

    Only to red neck, right wing social outcasts.
    No wonder you scoff at any award that has the word PEACE in it.
    Your uncontrolled irrational pure hatred of Al Gore now has you condemning one of the world's great honors.
    You really do look like a jackass.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 28, 2007 10:10 PM

    I don't condemn the idea of teh award, it would be great if it wasn't politically motivated. Jimmy Carter? Yasser arafat? Thats TWO antisemites. Gore only won because of Bush Derangement Syndrome. when he is debunked completely, which can't be soon enough, so this world can focus on REAL problems, you will feel very stupid. Well maybe not you but someone with a functioning cerebrum

    You can tell that McCool is another cultural giant that drags his knuckles around this site.

    Yep, NAILED me! While you're at it, tell your nephew to choke you completely the next time you have sex.

    Bobo, I have a bone to pick with you!

    I have asked you several times, to no avail, to give me an outline explaining Patsy's brillance so that I can see at least a glimmer of the great wisdom and symbolism of Patsy's comments.

    Without your guidance I can only continue humbly thanking Patsy for sharing his great thoughts with us.

    Grammie

    Only to red neck, right wing social outcasts.
    No wonder you scoff at any award that has the word PEACE in it.
    Your uncontrolled irrational pure hatred of Al Gore now has you condemning one of the world's great honors.
    You really do look like a jackass.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 28, 2007 10:10 PM

    Well...hey, WDYT, I try to keep an opened mind on such things...

    I tell myself, that any organization that awards Yasser Arafat a "peace" price... has got to have a great sense of irony....if not a sense of peace... :D

    Anything that is valid or logical, defies logic to Grandma.
    That's basically all u need to know about her.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 28, 2007 10:12 PM

    Thanks, I'm pretty sure i figured YOU out too.

    Yeah the Nobel Peace Prize has become as important as best grip at the Daytime Emmys
    Posted by: McCool at November 28, 2007 10:05 PM

    I think Dennis Miller said it best. Next year we should give the peace prize to Al Roker!

    But when it comes to monumental & totally damning evidence of the corruption and malfeasance of Cecilia's heroes, it's only anecdotal evidence.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 28, 2007 10:29 PM

    OK

    Dean: The Scream - shows his crazy ass mind nurtured in the Peoples Democratic Republic of Vermont

    Edwards: expensive haircut - most vain man on the planet -

    Reason to discredit NPP: Bring up Arafat
    I have nothing to say to this. Its like naming andy Rooney as Miss universe. It speaks for itself. Its damning in its own right. AND that goes for JIMMUH's award too.

    But when it comes to monumental & totally damning evidence of the corruption - Al Gore's current charade including the MONUMENTAL electric bill and private jet.
    Hmmm

    Thanks Patsy!

    Grammie

    ou may tell yourself that but what it tells us is that you're a one note musician that models ALL wingnuts.
    Dean: The Scream
    Edwards: expensive haircut
    Reason to discredit NPP: Bring up Arafat

    But when it comes to monumental & totally damning evidence of the corruption and malfeasance of Cecilia's heroes, it's only anecdotal evidence.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 28, 2007 10:29

    Well, until you can prove malfeasance, it's always anecdotal.

    You want to suggest otherwise on THAT or to suggest the the prize to Arafat didn't show everything there is to know about the politics of the NPP...then make a case, big boy...

    Told ya, Grammie. 'why' won't be giving you any 'summaries' of patsy's brilliance. There isn't any........

    It doesn't quite match keeping gays from getting married and forcing prayer in public schools but it's a little important.( and already happening genius)

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 28, 2007 10:40 PM

    Ummm... for anyone who agrees with you there, WDYT, can you tell me any Democratic candidates who have come out for gay marriage?

    Or who, after being nominated, will even speak out affirmatively that the SC was right in keeping prayer out of school?

    I'm just thinking you could be helpful for the primaries and beyond...

    Please help... :D

    "so this world can focus on REAL problems,"

    So this ANon doesn't think that flooding, uncontrolled wild fires, droughts and starvation of millions will be real problems?

    It doesn't quite match keeping gays from getting married and forcing prayer in public schools but it's a little important.( and already happening genius)

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 28, 2007 10:40 PM

    Yeah, there were never droughts or floods or wild fires prior to 1975. But the Prophet hyperventilates and LOOKS serious so you must follow. Look atthe temperature records. Climtae fluctuates just like weather flutuates. It ws warmer around 1000 AD, Heard iof the Vikings landing in Newfoundland, they settled in Greenland. They could because the climate was warmer until it FLUCTUATED again and got colder. Ever think that big ball of burning Hydrogen MIGHT have something to do with it. Just to humor me and yourself, download the Great Global Warming Swindle just to listen to Scientists, not politicians (Gore, UN) watch it with an open mind. It was made by the BBC so that shouldnt set off your Anti Conservative Radar. as you can tell, this is one topic that highly irritates me. You do know that Antarctica has been shown to getting colder? right? Lets try it together...FLUHHHCTUUUAAAAATIONNNNN

    Still waiting for any of you in the Moo Trio to PROVE that "Patsy" ever posted as "Pricele$$"

    Shit!
    You Moo Trio can't even enlist the help of Johnny BU$HWIPE.
    Posted by: DUMBSHIT! You know it is you Bovine! at November 28, 2007 10:49 PM

    Thanks, Patsy (and PRICELE$$ adorable Patsy-mini-me!!) :D

    Patsy, I truly tried to have one of the premier minds of our century give me guidance into your deep and powerful thoughts.

    Alas, either I am beneath his notice or you are just a one trick pony that doesn't have a thought beyond fitting dollar signs into words to replace the "s".

    I vote for the latter.

    What say you all?

    Grammie

    I know you'd rather Mr. Gore use a donkey for transportation and sleep in a tent in the desert.....
    if he's going to educate people on climate change.

    His "education" of people is a true malfeasance. Actually I'd rather he just go away

    You just keep bouncing back and forth from being totally stupid to being a total hoot.

    Thanks, Much better than consistently delusional and bitter

    I know you'd rather Mr. Gore use a donkey for transportation and sleep in a tent in the desert.....
    if he's going to educate people on climate change.
    You just keep bouncing back and forth from being totally stupid to being a total hoot.

    Thanks for the entertainment !
    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 28, 2007 10:51 PM


    No, we'd just like to see he and his big ole entourage fly coach...

    There's no Larry Flynt for exposes about carbon hypocrites... the question is why doesn't a carbon counting cretin like yourself, want that too?

    I wonder whythe Goracle didn't mention that temperature records show that atmospheric Carbon increases follow temperature increases after a 600 to 800 year lag. NOT the other way around. OR that temperature over the last 150 or so years actually corresponds with recorded sunspot activity. Hmm but Gore had a pretty power point show didn't he. And he was pretty funny with that southern drawl.
    WHY did you get me started on this?

    Thank$ Pat$y!

    Grammie

    This genius doesn't know that the vast majority of scientists in the world agree on climate change.

    Yeah, they agree on CLIMATE CHANGE, yes the climate is changing, as it ALWAYS has. The VAST majority are not in agreement that MANMADE CARBON is the main engine behind climate change. No matter what the corrupt, unaccountable to anyone bastards at the UN tell you.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm all for cutting carbon, but to reduce on middle east oil. Gore and Climate alarmist scientists are overhyping this nonsense for the money.

    Thank$ Pat$y!

    Grammie


    The IPCC lays the vast majority of the warming at humankind's door
    The IPCC is not, as some believe, a group of scientists, but a panel set up by the United Nations comprising representatives from about 140 governments to consider what we currently know about climate change.

    This is a quote from the BBC article you posted. ITS THE FIRST PARAGRAPH!!!

    And the other one. Union of COncerned Scientists? Do you THINK these people have a stake in being pessimistic? Do you think that would divert more funding their way to study this "disaster." Is it possible to pierce the liberal indoctrination that has clouded your mind and consider the possiblity that man is really not THAT significant on this earth. Yes the most significant biologically but compared to geologic, climatic, astronomical forces we are goldfish. We can't accurately predict the weather in 5 days and youre letting Al freakin Gore tell you what the weather will be like in 50 years. Again, WHY did you get me started on this?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7081331.stm

    And read this article genius which has a link on the very article you gave me. The great liberal mind ignoring other viewpoints.
    Ok Ive had enough. This is boring

    'why', can you explain the previous 7 ice ages? Just curious.

    FLUCKER, aren't you overdue for your remedial reading comprehension and retention classes?

    The reference and my plea over several comments was directed to that premier mind of our era, Bobo.

    You disavowed any knowledge of him a few days ago but you need to work harder at understanding that people exist outside of your personal sphere. Bobo is here, there and everywhere at OW.

    If it will help you to put Bobo in context I will ask him where he goes for happy hour. Perhaps then you can remember him and not confuse him with this 'Johnnie-Jeff' that you are so obsessive compulsive about.

    Grammie

    FLUCKER, for all your stultifying verbiage you still have not addressed anything I instructed you in.

    Grammie

    Girl, I bet you miss the '50s, looking for Commies behind every newspaper, under every bed. Just doesn't work as well with Ultra Radical and Absorbent Islamo Fascist Terrorist Bad People, does it? They stand out in Metaire, don't they?

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 29, 2007 12:16 AM

    You're sort of overstating the case when it comes to Bobo.

    He just stands out when tries to be 30 people on the internet...but then you've done a bit of Vaudeville yourself...

    Trifecta....dear MR. blank-FLUCKER is worried about Rudy's trists (I would not be surprised if he is also a sodomite...most men desire such pleasuring as you likely have experienced with Ms. blank-FLUCKER), whilst defending the former adulterer sodomite Bill Clinton....Why the hypocrisy, Mr. blank-FLUCKER?.....

    I see the story is not getting too much traction as President Clinton's lying about his support for military action against Saddam Hussein, because it was believed he had WMD, is still the talk-o-the-town....

    Too bad, uh?....The lying adulterous sodomite is the center-piece of HRC's campaign and now they have to try to change history to appease the radical anti-war fringe left with more lies.

    Have you bought their lies yet, Mr. blank-FLUCKER?

    BTW, the person who takes the next Presidential oath of office may indeed have succumbed to the alure of sodomy but alas, we will never know because, unlike Bill Clinton, they (including his wife) all seem able to keep such details of their sexual preferences private....as they should be...

    he, he, he....

    Like I have consistently said mental midget, the adulterer sodomite, Bill Clinton, obstructed justice in a judicial procedure of a fellow citizen and lied under oath....his personal sexual preferences would have remained unknown if he had some self control and did not allow his adolescent behavior to infect the very serious work he had sworn an oath to carry out.....

    Mr. Giuliani's alleged mistakes have yet to be shown to be illegal or unethical. He is an adult and can also have his personal sexual preferences, but unlike Mr. Clinton, I have not had to be confronted with them because Giuliani has not tried to obstruct justice or lie under oath....That is a rather big difference between the two men, mental midget.

    Lastly, Bill Clinton is a BIG part of this campaign because his wife, HRC who has also been an adult and not allowed sexual immaturity to interfere with her duties as a public official, has made her husband and his presidency a ceterpiece of her rhetoric.....Like it or not, Clinton is back and his poor character is once again showing as seen in his lie about not supporting military action against Saddam Hussein in 2003.

    again, he, he, he, mental midget. The adulterous sodomite, former President Clinton, lies again.....Does that not bother you?

    Mental midget and his leftist elite would be glad to leave a severely burned 5 year old boy in Iraq to fend for himself against Al Queda and other islamic fundamentalists.....

    Did you ever think about that reality, dear mental midget?

    Your accusations of Bush's lies have never seen the light of investigation or the vindication of a court of law....yet the adulerterous sodomist ADMITTED to lying under oath and he was found to have obstructed justice of his fellow citizen, Paula Jones....who got a nice payout from him as well....

    George Bush?....only silly and unproven allegations and conspiracy theories from leftist, mindless synchophants....And he is still OUR President!.....His war is still funded!.....No one from his administration is in jail!......His closest advisor....the eeeevil Rove, roams freely!......You have nothing dear mental midget!

    Sorry charlie....Bill Clinton lied again two days ago and all you have to say for yourself is "Bush lied." BUSH is not in this campaign, BTW mental midget.......Bill Clinton is right in the middle of it all!

    again, he, he, he.....How does Bill Clinton obviously lying make you feel mental midget?

    It is not sodomy watch, Mr. blank-FLUCKER....nor is it "Bush lied watch," or "Illegal immigrants are all kind people watch."

    Less than 10 minutes......

    Your favorite President seems to enjoy sodomy, Mr. blank-FLUCKER....Since you are a self-rightous lay-minister, do you know what your bible says about such behavior?

    Ah yes....the Nazi "rodent" reference against me only took about 30 minutes....good job, anon!

    Dehumanizing opponents, the specialty of the secular left!

    Yes, The Nazi's saw ratlike qualities in my European Jewish brethren too, anon....they called 'em as they saw 'em as well.....

    Please join the likes of mental midget, Lucy, wannawipe and Mr. blank-FLUCKER in the dumpster containing falied and evil ideologies.....Those ideologies that allow hatred, excuse dehumanizing rhetoric and see people only as groups ready to be "managed" or manipulated.

    Sorry anon...you have no evidence that the great President Bush or the terrific VP Cheney has dehumanized or diminished the human family one iota....unlike those of your ideological ilk.....and those your opinions support....like....

    Osama Bin Laden
    Saddam Hussein
    etc.

    I am living in the greatest country in the world because of the two men you besmurch....they have fulfilled their oaths of office to protect The US Constitution from all enemies....foreign and domestic (people like you).

    Cee: "The great President Bush or the VP Cheney"

    ROFLMAO!

    And many places in Venezuela on this very day, there are useful idiots with similar misguided nationalistic delusions calling THEIR soon to be 'president for life' "the great President Chavez"!

    I guess I should be more careful though....Janet or Jeff are likely to remember only the last four words of the previous paragraph and accuse me of having said I was a Chavez fan a week or so from now.

    Sorry Mike that you are on the side of abandoning the fight for freedom of religion and thought in Iraq while those two great men have stood up against all odds to maintain the support of the troops in their noble mission......Did you miss this post?.....

    Oh my....more good news from the fight for freedom of religion and thought in Iraq.....

    Youssif undergoes most important surgery

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/11/29/youssif.surgery/index.html


    ###
    Lets all do some math.....this wonderful young man was attacked 10 months ago...The Democrats and the anti-freedom left wanted the US GONE from Iraq even before the 11/06 elections....let alone the fact that the surge was opposed all through the first 6 months of 2007....

    So, Youssif is attacked in January, the left and their ruling elite wanted US help cut off through January until now....

    I wonder what the alternative reality would have been for this young man if the anti-freedom contingent had overcome the principled defender of freedom and democracy....President George Bush?

    Go look at his pictures and see what we are fighting against in Iraq, people.....

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/11/29/youssif.surgery/index.html#cnnSTCPhoto


    ###
    Hello wannawipe? Hello mental midget? Hello Sir Loin of Milquetoast (Lucy Van Pelt)? Hello whiney Mike? Hello Mr. blank-FLUCKER?

    Hyperbole AND on the wrong side of the fight to protect life and liberty....Jose Padlla not guilty?...Nice.

    No terrorism!......again, my neighbor who is now a 9/11 widow because of such an attitude thanks anti-American leftists like you, anon.

    "No terrorism!.....again, my neighbor who is now a 9/11 widow because of such an attitude thanks anti-American leftists like you, anon."

    Did she also thank anti-American rightest Ann Coulter for her repulsive remark she made about 911 widows?

    I'd say maybe your neighbor should get on here and speak for herself.....since you've now hidden behind her alledged opinions at least twice now.

    "It appears we have appointed our worst generals to command forces,and our most gifted and brilliant to edit newspapers.In fact, I discovered by reading newspapers that these editor/geniusesplainly saw all my strategic defects from the start,yet failed to inform me until it was too late.Accordingly, I am readily willing to yield my commandto these obviously superior intellects, and I will, in turn,do my best for the Cause by writing editorials - after the fact."- Robert E. Lee, 1863

    His obsession with Fox and with Bill
    Even makes Keith's psychiatrist ill
    Krazy Keith's OCD
    And Fox dependency
    Make "worst person" for E. D. Hill
    Posted by: Katy Turic at November 30, 2007 12:00 AM
    Posted by: at November 30, 2007 12:26 AM

    "Did she also thank anti-American rightest Ann Coulter for her repulsive remark she made about 911 widows?"


    ###
    Lou will speak for herself later today, whiney Mike and Mr. blank-FLUCKER, but I can summarize what she just spoke to me over the phone (I am at work, she is getting ready for her's), with a short sentence.....

    Coulter pegged those shrill ladies right on target from the start.

    So gents, look for Lou's response when she gets home from her job as a middle school teacher later this afternoon right on this same thread....She said she will be glad to answer any questions you may have about being a victim of radical ideology and seeing her own countrymen deny her anger and justice with the true enemy of life and liberty.

    BTW, I am so glad Mr. blank-FLUCKER picks and chooses how and when to respond to me....He seems content in avoiding the tough issues like his hypocricy and his grave stupidity in blaming personal financial woes on the defense of freedom and liberty in Iraq.....I wonder if he will afford the same cowardly attitude to Lou when she voices her opinion and testimony on this thread later today?

    Was that cesspool deep enough for you Mr. blank-FLUCKER?

    Did your son Graeme score during his Lacrosse game?

    You were right, cee. Not a peep from spaced out philby. But, Rudy is BIG news to an olbyloon. Hillary, Edwards and Obama plants at a cnn GOP debate? Hands over eyes, plugs in ears.......Looking forward to Lou's posts.

    "Any bets what Internet Cafe F-I-G will be going to in order to disguise his IP address and write and send Lou's post?"


    ###
    Poor distrustful Mr. blank-FLUCKER....I thought you were a kind Christian who trusted his fellow man?

    I have, on many occasions, said to many cynics as powerful as Sir Loin of Milquetoast that I and any poster can make up anything they choose to make their points all the more powerful....I could claim to be somekind of veteran like Mike, or even some kind of kind and compassionate lay-minister like you.

    I am happy to tell you that my dear neighbor, her full name is Louise, will have to post her comments on OW via my home computer because she does not own a home computer or e-mail. When I called her from my office today, she expressed an interest in responding herself and I offered posting on this blog. She thought it would be interesting because she has a very strong opinion on how people assume or co-opt how victims of 9/11 view Bush and his policies towards groups that support or overtly endorce the use of terrorism.

    If you would like to exchange ideas with her anyother way, you can ask her yourself when she posts....Perhaps she is willing to start a snail-mail penpal relationship with your, Mr. blank-FLUCKER....I am sure from my 8 years of knowing her, she will be much more patient with your thinly veiled hatred that I have been.

    You too, wasted keystrokes, can discuss your concerns and interests in her limited computer access with her when she comes to this wonderful and respectful site.

    Whiney Mike and Mr. blank-FLUCKER requested she appear and she has graciously agreed to speak for herself. I hope you display a more open mind to different opinions than has been displayed previously.

    Who is going to give wannawipe some kind of barbituate so he does not scare off my kind neighbor?

    BTW, let me restate, she is my next-door neighbor. She does not attend my church and I am not even sure she attends one regularly.

    She is a public school teacher in one of the poorer communities of New Jersey...for over 40 years....She would not be allowed to teach the alternatives to the theory of Darwinian evolution even if she wanted to because such freedom of speech is prohibited by the state. I do not know her opinion about the origins of life....you can ask her when she posts.

    My wife has become close with Lou because they are both teachers. I can confidently say that she will not be very interested in such vile attacks like your's, wannawipe, as she has continued to recover with dignity from the loss of her husband over 6 years ago.

    I must insist, Pastor DUMBFUCK! I mean Phallouise!

    Where does your cult meet?

    Is Phallouise perhaps teaching "Creation Science" in "her job as a middle school teacher"?
    Posted by: Now Pastor DUMBFUCK! I mean Phallouise will speak in tongues at November 30, 2007 1:39 PM


    Thanks Patsy or Patsy mini-me... :D

    My wife has become close with Lou because they are both teachers. I can confidently say that she will not be very interested in such vile attacks like your's, wannawipe, as she has continued to recover with dignity from the loss of her husband over 6 years ago.

    Posted by: cee at November 30, 2007 1:53

    Cee, this is your gig, but I want to gently ask you to remember the parable about casting pearls and consider whether anything not potentially hurtful to your friend could come of it.

    Cecelia, my neighbor said she wanted to post only after what I told her about the posts late last night. I am sure she will look at the statements since and judge whether it is worth her effort to share her personal story and/or opinion. I hope she does because it is rather touching.

    I know by the reactions so far from the braintrust here at OW it seems to be degenerating into the usual, but Lou is a big girl and can decide for herself. I know she will not be the type to claim moral superiority but after some of the things posted about the war on terror, but I also know her opinion is quite the contrary with regards to how the threat impacted her personally.

    I've been unmasked by the witty Vampiria.

    Now, Pastor DUMBFUCK! I mean Phallousie, will revert to calling me "Pigpen"

    HOW DE-HUMANIZING!

    Posted by: Oooooh...! NO! Heavens! at November 30, 2007

    Don't think of it as dehumanizing, lots of celebrities become trademarked brand names.

    Elvis has retinue of jumpsuited impersonators, Patsy likely has an hyperbole in uper-case-writing, thumb-sucking, foul mouthed mini-me or so.

    They can join us in hollering, "thanks, Patsy!"

    The more the merrier... :D

    PigPen is a delightful character created by the born-again Christian, Charles Schulz, wannawipe.....You are not him....You are more along the lines of a dopey Lucy Van Pelt....again you aspire to fill the shoes of the secular brainiacs, like Sir Loin of Milquetoast, but your mental deficiencies hold you back.....

    Keep trying though, wannawipe.....just make sure you keep your helmet and mouthguard in place!

    I know she will not be the type to claim moral superiority but after some of the things posted about the war on terror, but I also know her opinion is quite the contrary with regards to how the threat impacted her personally.

    Posted by: cee at November 30, 2007 2:19 PM

    Well, I hope you warned her... :D

    Cecelia, she'll peruse the posts today with my wife before she even types a word...I am sure.

    The snow is snowing,
    The wind is blowing ....
    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 30, 2007 2:31 PM

    Well, then, quit scratching your scalp and close your mouth.... :D

    "It may be awhile before "Lou" will be able to make her way thru all the crucifixes...."


    ###
    I am glad to have yet another example of the religious bigotry the "lay minister" Mr. blank-FLUCKER thinks is tolerable to spout....

    Check yet another point of hypocrisy for the poor deluded middle-class saint.....

    Isn't your progeny, Graeme, waiting to play Wii baseball, Mr. blank-FLUCKER?

    This is an unusual thing for me to do but after my conversation with cee I thought it the best way for me to explain my opinion. My husband was killed in the north tower on 9/11. He was at work for the port authority of New York and New Jersey when the planes struck. What happened to him was a crime and that is as plain and simple as it gets. All crimes have motives, and this crime was no different. The hijackers left notes, some left videos. Prior to the public release of some of these notes, I was able to see them out of respect for the fact that I had a close loved-one who died in the attacks. The motives for these horrible crimes are in these notes and videos. One by hijacker Waleed al-Shehri stated, "We shall come at you from your front and back, your right and left". He told his fellow muslims to join the line of martyrs in his way. It is clear the motive was for death of as many as possible and this was just the first attack this group would have as it wanted the United States to fall just like the former Soviet Union. These tapes and notes were made before Bush invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. The plan was clear even when they attacked the US Cole and the problems in Somalia. These notes and tapes explain all of it. Immediately after 9/11, George Bush made it clear that anyone supporting terrorism as a tactic was to renounce such tactics and join the free world. I remember him saying, "you're with us or your against us." I cheered when he made that clear stand. No to terrorism and yes to stopping those willing to use it. The Taliban and Saddam Hussein in Iraq were the two main powerful foes that did not renounce terrorism and posed a threat as organized groups needing to change. Saddam Hussein had chemical weapons and was looking to develop nuclear weapons. He was not open about his plans and he did not step down when he did not comply with the UN resolutions. Both Hussein and the Taliban were given warnings over months and years and both the Taliban and Hussein refused to step down as demanded by the president. They were given fair warning, my husband and those who died with him on 9/11 were not given such a warning! So when people, including my fellow 9/11 widows and widowers, claim the president is the same or worse than the people who use surprise murdering attacks like 9/11 to kill, I get very angry. The hijackers and their supporters in the entire muslim world, including the former leader of Iraq, are responsible for 9/11, not president Bush. Hussein supported terrorists in Israel and Lebanon and even had connections with some involved with Al Queda. When bitter people like Kristen Breitweiser claim president Bush has done the same as those who kill with jet liners and terror and not giving any warning, I find it a disgrace and it lessens the sacrifice my husband gave on 9/11. I love this free country and it angers me that many speak so much hatred against the president and those who are fighting terrorists here and overseas. People have forgotten the pain and death of 9/11 and for their own selfish reasons, have attacked our own country for mistakes not even close to those planned and executed atrocities on 9/11. I do not like it when 9/11 is politicized but I also think the leader of our country, president Bush, should be afforded his due respect and the benefit of the doubt for doing a tremendous job under very difficult circumstances. I thank God there has not been another 9/11, I do not want anyone to suffer what I sufferred through. It is because of the hard work of Bush and his administration that we have remained safe and I will gladly say so when someone asks me. Thank you for reading my opinion and I hope you all remember that we all are Americans and should not be so quick to attack eachother.

    "It may be awhile before "Lou" will be able to make her way thru all the crucifixes...."

    posted by spaced out philby

    I didn't think it was possible, but, mrs. philby has surpassed 'mike' in the hypocrisy dept. Wear your badge with pride, mrs. philby. Mrs. Philby/rudyramirez/clucker/jennifer/joel/A N O N Y M OU S, you're the Biggets Hypocrite In The World!!!!!! (BHITW) No satire, here.

    Not sure, 'why.' It sure did wipe the whole 'plant' story off the front page, which was the plan, I have no doubt.

    Wow! The olbyloons aren't touching Louise's post @ 7:30. Shocker!

    "It is because of the hard work of Bush and his administration that we have remained safe and I will gladly say so when someone asks me." posted by Louise


    Worth repeating.^

    Cee, please tell your neighbor that from her personal tragic point of view she expressed much of my feeling and opinions.

    I hope she finds as much solace and peace that she can.

    Grammie

    More crickets. Very telling of the olbyloons.

    RK, we have been properly and scathingly chastised by Monsieur Capo Blank-Flucker.

    "It's called discretion. Class. Staples Mrs. Hawkins and you couldn't buy on sale.
    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at December 1, 2007 10:24 AM"

    I have been searching for years to buy some "discretion" and some"class" that Flucker displays here so brilliantly every day to no avail.

    Perhaps if we study just two examples about Louise he gave he gave us we may be able to add it to all the other staples we buy,

    "Looking forward to Lou's posts.
    -------
    Moo!
    Moo! Moo! Moo!
    Moo!
    Moo!
    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 30, 2007 12:42 PM "

    "It may be awhile before "Lou" will be able to make her way thru all the crucifixes and Bush/Cheney bumper stickers in order to get to Cee's computer.

    Posted by: at November 30, 2007 2:43 PM

    ---

    That's awfully funny.

    Almost as funny as Lou "her full name is Louise." But, then, I guess that's helpful in case anyone might have though her full name is Babalou

    Almost as funny as
    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 30, 2007 3:04 PM "

    The second priceless example from him is atwofer. I have always lamented my lack of religious fervor, loving humility and the oft mentioned grace and perfection displayed here so ofton by St Flucker. I may finally be able to find that too among the staples.

    Grammie

    Now now, Grammie....Give Mr. (saint) blank-FLUCKER a break....He is likely going off to do something for the greater humanity and will not be able to infect you with grace and perfection....

    Lets just hope the poor souls he is saving are prepared to kiss Dr. Scholls scented feet.

    Thank you. God Bless you. Thank you!

    Oh my, wannawipe just can't tolerate his friends being called the hypocrites they display themselves as.....

    Mike is at least silent which is a wonderful change of pace!

    Good-bye, wannawipe....I have to go....just don't forget to keep looking for that example of macroevolution and spontaneous amnio acid in some ooze so that you can finally call your creation myth, "SCIENCE!"

    BAM!
    ENTROPY!
    SODOMY!

    Thanks Patsy on behalf of St Flucker!

    Grammie

    Louise,

    Thanks so much for sharing your experience and your thoughts!

    Your husband would be very proud of the way you've continued on and of your devotion to the memory of everyone who died that day.

    Please come back soon!

    We certainly enjoy your mischievous neighbor Cee... :D

    Let's just hope this doesn't lead to more pseudonymic epistles.

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at December 2, 2007 6:05 PM


    We always hope that, Capon, but so far you, WDYT, continue to disappoint...

    Cee's neighbor must not be voting for Rudy then...and we all know George Bush has never politicized 9/11.

    Amazing !

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at December 2, 2007 12:12 PM


    Notice how OW's self professed 'einstein' couldn't debate or say anything to Louise? Very telling, indeed! He's got nothing, as usual!

    Cee @ Dec. 1, 12:49 PM: "Mike is aty least silent which is a wonderful change of pace."

    So what's your point Cee?. None....as usual?

    And are you complaining credit for me being tied up for the better part of the last three days?

    I personally think you should listen to your neighbors advise about Americans not attacking each other the next time you are tempted to taunt, name call, and label other American's honest opinions as "un-American", etc.

    Jeff @ 12:09 AM: "Notice how OW's self professed 'einstein' couldn't debate or say anything to Louise? Very telling indeed. He's got nothing as usual"

    Most of us can see the difference between showing respect for the honest opinion of someone who has suffered a major loss, and being afraid to debate that person.


    Jeff, .....As you just proved, 'Why' would have been assailed by the likes of you whether he had responded directly to Louis or not.

    If he HAD challenged any of her opinions, he would have been maligned for not showing respect for a 911 widow.

    Sorry you still don't understand the difference between trolling on OW, .....(which is the ONLY thing YOU ever do), .....and exchanging honest differences of opinions as free Americans, ..... who are exercising both their freedom of speech and their DUTY as patriotic Amercans to speak out against what they feel is wrong.

    With all the recent references to Bush and some of his most avid remaining supporters, I am reminded by something I personally experienced about a year ago:

    As a dealer in antiques, I responded to an ad for a large quantity of similar items being offered for an advertised price of several thousand dollars. On the surface, this appeared to be an honest ad making a fair offering at a fair asking price.

    When I arrived at what turned out to be a very large country estate on about 10 acres of land, I was greeted by a surprisingly surly older gentleman who led me to what amounted to a large closet filled with mostly junk that was worth approximately 1/4th the price he was asking for it.

    Being very knowledgable about the true value of the particular items he was selling, I politely declined and made my way out of his house.

    There was NO doubt in my mind that this particular gentleman was looking for some poor sucker to come along and relieve him of his load of overpriced junk. I just hope that he wasn't successful.

    I later found out from a mutual friend that this particular gentleman was a retired minister, as well as an avid collector of the items in question that he was offering, ....so he would have known full well the items he was offering were ridiculously overpriced.

    The other thing that I will never forget is that life size cardboard statue of a smiling and waving GW Bush displayed prominently just inside his front door.

    It's the only one I have ever seen!

    Well Mr. blank-FLUCKER, we actually spent about 3 1/2 hours together Friday night because Lou stayed and had dinner with me and my family. I did not have to tie her to her chair.

    You are right, Mike. I think her major issue was not falling into the mode of name calling and infighting but you also missed her other point about moral equivalance. This point is where many depart from eachother on this board and some get fed-up with the name calling of President Bush, VP Cheney and their supporters.

    I am not suggesting a simple "who started it," defense, but it seems to me that many in our country were very happy to, even only weeks after 9/11, begin the name calling just to appear "contrarian" and "superior" to the patriotism that seems to be so foreign to most on the far left.

    Lou's basically apolitical but she does think islamic radicalism is real.....another departure from many on the left on this board. She also has had NO problem with removing Saddam Hussein in relation to the fight against this radical islamic movement because he was in violation of UN resolutions, the conventional wisdom was that he was intent on continuing a WMD program, and was given fair warning to step down from the Iraqi Presidency prior to invasion....He chose not to and is the sole person with true responsiblilty in leading his country to war against the compassionate USA.

    He is long gone now and there are radical islamic elements that MUST be defeated in Iraq. I agree with her that the fight is noble, just and winnable.

    Those that couch the argument any other way are either stuck in the past or have present domestic political aspirations that make the war an "Issue." IMHO, the left's ruling elite in the democratic party are political opportunists with the war issue, and shame on them. Olbermann as well....look at his program and see he does not even mention the war anymore as it still goes on.....Why? Because there is better news and it does not feed his motives or the selfish motives of the elite he supports. Shame on them.

    It would be so nice if Mr. blank-FLUCKER actually engaged in some debate instead of spitting from the gallery....Or is he insecure without his testicles?.....

    Come on Ms. blank-FLUCKER....let him have them for the holidays!!!!

    Come on Ms. blank-FLUCKER....let him have them for the holidays!!!!

    Posted by: cee at December 3, 2007 6:59 AM

    Uuhh.... she needed a pair of festive dangling earrings to go with her tartan crinoline...

    Mmm, lets get a more accurate accounting of what occurred in Venezuela....

    The referendum asked the country to approve the following:

    1) Shortening the workday from eight hours to six.

    2) Creating a social security fund for millions of informal laborers.

    3) Creating new forms of communal property.

    4) Allow Chavez to seek re-election indefinitely.

    5) Allow the president to handpick local leaders.

    6) Permit civil liberties to be suspended under extended states of emergency.

    7) Greatly increase the state’s role in the economy.

    A very "progressive" agenda that mimics what the American left proposes. It was a very close vote, with much of the poor voting FOR the proposal.....dear Mr. blank-FLUCKER.....What about the poor?.....Why did the wealthier elite abandon them to partake of the wealth that the country has and Chavez is proposing to spread to them?

    Oh.....it's about liberty? It's about civil rights? It seems that almost a majority was willing to give up liberty for economic security and the elites robbed them of this wish!

    Democracy in action! I love it! The results show clearly the right outcome despite the Marxist philosophy's power over the society in the man, Chavez....What is the "progressive" radical left in America to do?....Cheer now but continue to puch for 80% of the agenda here in the USA?

    Mr. blank-FLUCKER once again shows us all his stupidity!

    Those testicles would help, man!

    "I hope these brave men and women who risked so much for their own country, their own selves, inspire us to do the same when we are called to do so."

    Mr. blank-FLUCKER


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    I do agree with this statement, especially in relation to giving up liberty for economic security in regards to healthcare and other large areas of the economy. All of the democratic candidates want part of the Venezuelean referendum in regards to increasing federal control over large areas of the economy.....Does Mr. blank-FLUCKER agree that such drastic leftist attitudes represent a giving up of freedom in the face of fear (economic security)? Or is he just concerned about the imaginary bogeyman of physical (life and limb) security fears leading to the erosion of civil liberties.

    Most of us can see the difference between showing respect for the honest opinion of someone who has suffered a major loss, and being afraid to debate that person.


    'mike's' idiocy

    The fact that I didn't lose anyone on 9/11 makes it ok for fools like you and all of your cohorts/olbyloons to call anyone that disagrees w/you names? Our opinions are not 'honest?' Wow. Only on Planet Olby.

    As usual Jeff....you missed the whole point.

    WHIIIIZZZZ: The sound of points going right over Jeff's head!

    No Cee, I didn't miss your neighbors point about "moral equivalence" at all.

    Calling down President Bush for making mostly counter-productive moves in his zealous pursuit on this thing he calls his "War on Terror" is hardly the same as putting him on the same level morally with Saddam and OBL.

    "The path to self-destruction is littered with good intentions"....That pretty much sums up my distaste concerning Bush in a nutshell...another word for the phenomenon is 'incompetence'.

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