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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    November 29, 2007
    Keith Olbermann Derides Helping Injured US Troops as "Flag Waving"


    Posted by johnny dollar | Permalink | Comments (295) | | View blog reactions

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    Traitor Keith is an anti-American Bastard!!!!

    He is constantly putting down his country and the troops. I am waiting for a veteran to finally get fed up with this and beat the fuck out of him. Military people who accidently see his show have to start vomiting when they see Keith, who would rather go after someone like Bill O who supports the troops, launch into his usual commie talk every night.

    Prepare for for tonight, if he shows up, for the full defense of Hillary after the debate plant last night. Also, with a football player dead and Bill O doing stories about it, expect an attack from Keith because he thinks he is the only one who knows sports. If you see the show on Sunday night, I am even begininng to wonder about that as well.

    What a liberal loser.

    He really is such a loathsome human being.

    There is not much more to say about that.

    OlerberLimp,

    Why do you hate our troops so much?

    E.D. Hill of Fixed Noise again waving that flag for the occupiers. Apparently she does not have the courage or journalistic integrity to watch the true nature of these occupiers in the news film Redacted. Why does she not wave the flag for the freedom fighters in Iraq who have been murdered by these occupiers? Fixed Noise indeed.

    He really is such a loathsome human being.

    There is not much more to say about that.

    Posted by: Mike at November 29, 2007 6:10 PM

    Mike? Is That You? We agree on something???

    Keith Olbermann is something else. What a loser.

    from your pals over at TVnewser

    Keith Olbermann mentioned his upcoming book Truth and Consequences: Special Comments on the Bush Administration's War on American Values last night on Countdown, and the ripple effect on Amazon.com was striking. The book is now #5 on the "Movers and Shakers" list, a tracker of the biggest gainers in book sales in the last 24 hours. The book is currently ranked #193 in all book sales, while yesterday was at #1,660.

    It is also the #1 ranked book about the Executive Branch and the #2 book in the category of U.S. Politics. Truth and Consequences will be released on December 26.

    The #1 book on all of Amazon.com? Not surprisingly, Glenn Beck's An Inconvenient Book.

    amazon:
    http://www.amazon.com/Truth-Consequences-Comments-Administrations-American/dp/140006676X/ref=pd_ms_b_5?ie=UTF8&s=books

    from your pals over at TVnewser

    Keith Olbermann mentioned his upcoming book Truth and Consequences: Special Comments on the Bush Administration's War on American Values last night on Countdown, and the ripple effect on Amazon.com was striking. The book is now #5 on the "Movers and Shakers" list, a tracker of the biggest gainers in book sales in the last 24 hours. The book is currently ranked #193 in all book sales, while yesterday was at #1,660.

    It is also the #1 ranked book about the Executive Branch and the #2 book in the category of U.S. Politics. Truth and Consequences will be released on December 26.

    The #1 book on all of Amazon.com? Not surprisingly, Glenn Beck's An Inconvenient Book.

    amazon:
    http://www.amazon.com/Truth-Consequences-Comments-Administrations-American/dp/140006676X/ref=pd_ms_b_5?ie=UTF8&s=books


    Posted by: I smell a NYT bestseller at November 29, 2007 7:16 PM

    I hope the pages are soft enough to wipe my ass with.

    My God why would anyone watch this POS? Left wing nuts, what the F is the matter with you people?

    I hope the pages are soft enough to wipe my ass with.
    Posted by: McCool at November 29, 2007 7:20 PM

    Kind of sums up your whole approach to education, doesn't it?

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 29, 2007 7:43 PM

    You mean your type of education/indoctrination? Absolutely. I prefer to keep an open mind and not take blowhard politicians at face value because they are salesmen. And I think Ed is talking to you above

    Why, how about you and I agree to disagree. I will keep my opinions and facts and you can clutch on to your delusions until you contract some horrible blood in the stool inducing disease. ok?

    Olby hates our troops because they are defending us from his Islamofascist pals. If Olby thinks that helping injured troops is horrible, then this should tell his 10 viewers just how twisted and sick he really is. Of course, his viewers are estrogen-deprived harpies and delusional moonbats, so that might not matter to them.

    Flag waving, indeed. Stay classy, Olbytard, you troop-hater. I hope your fellow SNF panel has special comments for you this weekend. Nothing But Communists at the Peacock.

    Olby hates our troops because they are defending us from his Islamofascist pals. If Olby thinks that helping injured troops is horrible, then this should tell his 10 viewers just how twisted and sick he really is. Of course, his viewers are estrogen-deprived harpies and delusional moonbats, so that might not matter to them.

    Being a contrarian is the one way for this brain dead, shallow, soulless douchebag to stand out in this world. as for his followers, in another time, they would have followed Lenin, Castro, or Jim Jones. They have no capabilities of independent thinking. They latch onto any moron that will make them seem "special" for having an opinion different from 3/4 of the American population.

    I have a feeling that you won't even find 25% of the people who think sending Christmas thanks to recovering soldiers is to be ridiculed as empty "flag waving". If you're going to claim Olby's diseased view of our troops is shared by a majority of this country, then you must be living on OlbyPlanet.

    My God!!!

    I would barely suggest to the people that are actually defending this human piece of excrement that it is indeed possible to think Bush is incompetent and that K.O. is beneath contempt.

    Why is that so hard to follow?

    You don't like Bush? I don't either. I voted for Kerry.

    Yet I don't have this childish mindset because Olbermann is anti-Bush, whatever he says must be Gospel truth.

    There is a difference between a majority of the country thinking that George Bush bungled the Iraq war, thinking he can not win it, and saying a majority of Americans think supporting the troops in harms way is "flag waving". A majority of Americans want to see the troops succeed and the war to end in victory. Whether they believe George Bush can help accomplish this is a different story.

    Actually, you have perfectly flipped matters, haven't you? It's 25% of the people that support Bush. Mindlessly nodding their heads at every mispronounced word, at each incident of mangled syntax and with each and every of the many, many, many, many lies he has told. My new name for use is a compound word: Sheep, for mindlessly following a lost and losing leader, and Dip, for being such a schmuck.

    Bye for now Sheepdip

    Do me a favor and just run the hose directly from the exhasut pipe into your mouth. When you are cherry red, you will be smarter.

    My God!!!

    I would barely suggest to the people that are actually defending this human piece of excrement that it is indeed possible to think Bush is incompetent and that K.O. is beneath contempt.

    Why is that so hard to follow?

    You don't like Bush? I don't either. I voted for Kerry.

    Yet I don't have this childish mindset because Olbermann is anti-Bush, whatever he says must be Gospel truth.

    Posted by: Mike at November 29, 2007 8:38 PM

    I half respect you Mike

    The point is, is it not, you guilt-ridden conservative Republicans who have sent so many fine American men and women to their deaths and caused so many of them to be injured want to make a rather empty gesture so that you can feel good about yourselves? This isn't about our troops at all, is it? As always, it is about you, isn't it?

    Why not bring these men and women home to their families and communities? Why nor provide superior medical care and treatment for them? Why not take care of their families when they are away on extended tour upon extended tour? Oh, I know. That would take some money, some effort, same sacrifice on your part.

    I find it offensive even now you all look for the cheap way out of a debacle caused by invading and occupying a nation on the cheap. When you have the moral purity, clarity and courage to work to end this horrendous mess, then you might be in a position to lecture me. Otherwise, go buy a Tootsie Pop and send it to a wounded soldier to make yourself a big man.

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 29, 2007 8:41 PM

    So to hell with the soldiers and anytjing that MIGHT make them feel good because you are a jaded piece of shit. Most normal people would find YOU offensive. Why not bring them home? What a grand gesture! Why hasn't any one else thought of that? Could it be because that would be the WRONG decision in the long term. Societies get rich, fat and bloated and then when troubles erupt that need to be faced, some people think the way to solve it is to ignore it. As far as finding money maybe we could just use the money Murtha keeps sending back to his district while he simultaneously stabs the Marines in teh back. Corrupt piece of shit. Oh by the way, if you need help with that hose, just call

    you guilt-ridden conservative Republicans who have sent so many fine American men and women to their deaths and caused so many of them to be injured

    just interchange this with 9/11 victims after 8 years of slick willy getting blowjobs and not killing bin laden

    You lazy, self-serving, sanctimonious twit. Go make yourself feel better at someone else's expense. Leave our troops and us out of it.

    I suggest you hook up with Johnnie-Jeff and Cee. They're all for the Occupation, endlessly, without a single thought for the consequences upon the troops and their families. And, they don't do a damn thing for them, either.

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 29, 2007 9:06 PM

    "The Occupation" Well isn't that a grand way to put it. I prefer "Liberation" of Iraqis and Afghanis, but you keep drinking the kool aid and stroking your cat Dr Evil. I'd like to leave you alone. Iwish you were in the Seychelles or somewhere else otehr than here. I think you need a copy of the Koran jammed up your ass to enlighten you.

    What's even more deplorable than Keith Olbermann are his bosses. NBC News.

    Al Jazeera @ 30 Rock.

    and i hope you were wagging that holier than thou finger at me as you wrote that.

    Keith is god... all praise Keith.

    Posted by: Bill O'lielly at November 29, 2007 9:16 PM

    I think I just had an epiphany chanting Keith's name.....

    No wait, it was just gas.

    can't wait to comment on tonight's show. his interview with naomi wolf was as limp as it gets.

    douchebag boy has a new book and he's crowing about its success! hahaha! we all know how hillary bought up all his books and distributed em to her mindless drones. we all know the huge bump a new book gets. wait a minute, i forgot keith was nothing but propoganda, nothing new here.

    I'm not sure anybody would even know about Keith's comments were they not highlighted on this site. It's not just his nightly commentary show. The democratic debate he moderated was the least watched of every single debate and that includes the ever important 25-54 demo. Dead last. Not even close.

    the most ridiculous image: k.o. doing his show in front of a window with happy little christmas lights and decoration. a little reminder that the miserable keith cant totally soil everything around him. maybe the windows are thick.

    QUOTE:

    "The point is, is it not, you guilt-ridden conservative Republicans who have sent so many fine American men and women to their deaths and caused so many of them to be injured want to make a rather empty gesture so that you can feel good about yourselves? This isn't about our troops at all, is it? As always, it is about you, isn't it?

    Why not bring these men and women home to their families and communities? Why nor provide superior medical care and treatment for them? Why not take care of their families when they are away on extended tour upon extended tour? Oh, I know. That would take some money, some effort, same sacrifice on your part.

    I find it offensive even now you all look for the cheap way out of a debacle caused by invading and occupying a nation on the cheap. When you have the moral purity, clarity and courage to work to end this horrendous mess, then you might be in a position to lecture me. Otherwise, go buy a Tootsie Pop and send it to a wounded soldier to make yourself a big man.

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 29, 2007 8:41 PM"


    ------MY RESPONSE-------

    plese shut your @#!$ing hole NOW. NOW!

    you don't give a !@#$ about our troops. not a single one.

    you have no idea what it means to serve. you don't see that they sacrifice so that we don't. yes, that means people die. you take their sacrifice (when they're dead and cant argue back) and use it to argue with them. say they didn't do any good, just many more times bad. you suck. if you are so undeucated and irrational and emotional, do the world a favor and shut your !@#!@$!@#$ing mouth.

    the least watched of every single debate and that includes the ever important 25-54 demo. Dead last. Not even close.

    Posted by: robny at November 29, 2007 9:41 PM


    In this instance, the olbyloons will cry 'ratings don't matter!'
    When the orange faced prick breaks #3 in the ratings, ratings suddenly mean everything!
    TDF!!(+)-----

    He really is such a loathsome human being.

    There is not much more to say about that.

    Posted by: Mike at November 29, 2007 6:10 PM

    Mike? Is That You? We agree on something???

    Posted by: McCool at November 29, 2007 7:11 PM

    Exactly what I was going to ask McCool. Maybe the scumbag is even went to far for his follower's. After all, we have 3 racist remarks from Sunday that would have gotten any non American hater fired and the puupets of the left have to be questioning why Keithy doesn't get on a plane and visit the TROOPS since he claims to speak for them and their fast ticket home, aka surrender. The left is crumbling as they have staked all on OUR TROOPS COMING HOME WITH THEIR TAIL BETWEEN LEGS and found that the "uneducated" had another idea for the DEMONNUTT'S.. VICTORY!! Ah the POWER of LOVE FOR COUNTRY! Even a COUNTRY that allows SCUMS and a SCUM PARTY to HOPE FOR DEFEAT. Question for the LEFTNISTA'S is what would HUGO DO to scum like RUBBADUCKIEMANN if he dared question HUGGY BOY?

    ------MY RESPONSE-------

    plese shut your @#!$ing hole NOW. NOW!

    you don't give a !@#$ about our troops. not a single one.

    you have no idea what it means to serve. you don't see that they sacrifice so that we don't. yes, that means people die. you take their sacrifice (when they're dead and cant argue back) and use it to argue with them. say they didn't do any good, just many more times bad. you suck. if you are so undeucated and irrational and emotional, do the world a favor and shut your !@#!@$!@#$ing mouth.

    Posted by: at November 29, 2007 9:57 PM

    I LOVE YOU MAN!!!


    """can't wait to comment on tonight's show. his interview with naomi wolf was as limp as it gets.

    Posted by: olbyhater at November 29, 2007 9:31 PM """


    -----dangit! i meant Naomi Klein.

    Anon @ 9:57 PM:

    "plese shut your @#!$ing NOW, NOW!"

    "you don't give a !@#$ about our troops. Not a single one"

    "you have no idea what it means to serve."

    I do Anon, and I say keep 'lecturing', A N O N Y M O U S. You have the right ideas!

    I wonder what "!@#S" means?

    Exactly what I was going to ask McCool. Maybe the scumbag is even went to far for his follower's. After all, we have 3 racist remarks from Sunday that would have gotten any non American hater fired and the puupets of the left have to be questioning why Keithy doesn't get on a plane and visit the TROOPS since he claims to speak for them and their fast ticket home, aka surrender. The left is crumbling as they have staked all on OUR TROOPS COMING HOME WITH THEIR TAIL BETWEEN LEGS and found that the "uneducated" had another idea for the DEMONNUTT'S.. VICTORY!! Ah the POWER of LOVE FOR COUNTRY! Even a COUNTRY that allows SCUMS and a SCUM PARTY to HOPE FOR DEFEAT. Question for the LEFTNISTA'S is what would HUGO DO to scum like RUBBADUCKIEMANN if he dared question HUGGY BOY?


    Posted by: JCMS at November 29, 2007 10:12 PM

    You too man!!! Doesn't Hugo remind you of a puss faced Mussolini or is it just me?

    Sorry Joe McCool...."Mike" at 6:10 PM wasn't me....Probably just an innocent mistake from a new poster who doesn't realize the name is taken.

    Now change the reference he made to KO to "hannity", or "Limbaugh", or "Gibson", or "O'Reilly", etc., and we'll have an agreement.

    Mike, mike, mike, just when I thought that brain and testicle transplant was a partial success. I officially despise you again. YOU need a Korna jammed up your ass too

    Mike, mike, mike, just when I thought that brain and testicle transplant was a partial success. I officially despise you again. YOU need a Koran jammed up your ass too

    Well McCool, I don't despise YOU at all....I just pity your ignorance and hatred of things you don't understand.

    Sorry Joe McCool...."Mike" at 6:10 PM wasn't me....Probably just an innocent mistake from a new poster who doesn't realize the name is taken.

    Now change the reference he made to KO to "hannity", or "Limbaugh", or "Gibson", or "O'Reilly", etc., and we'll have an agreement.

    Posted by: Mike at November 29, 2007 10:23 PM

    Sorry Joe McCool...."Mike" at 6:10 PM wasn't me....Probably just an innocent mistake from a new poster who doesn't realize the name is taken.

    Now change the reference he made to KO to "hannity", or "Limbaugh", or "Gibson", or "O'Reilly", etc., and we'll have an agreement.

    Posted by: Mike at November 29, 2007 10:23 PM

    Well i forgot you are a liberal surrender monkey, so that sounds about right, pitying the man who is jamming the koran into your rectum

    You know McCool, you do have some intelligent and valid points, I'm actually considering voting for Romney

    I see we have another cutsy little name jacker creating mischief again!

    Foolish kids.. when they grow up I hope they vote for Edwards...

    "liberal surrender monkey".......LMAO...again!

    I see you've swallowed your master's script to the letter.

    I suggest you look up the word "surrender" in the dictionary and get back to me on that.

    I watched Traitor Keith's interview with Edwards tonight and they were both snickering that a Republican can not take questions from a democrat. Totally missing the point of course. But I thought it was hilarious given the fact the democrats are scared to debate on FOX at all.

    OK! OK! enough. you win. Keith should be president of Mensa and makes Mother Theresa look like Tojo. I'll go away now. You broke me.Damn antique dealers, shoulda known better than to mess with those badasses...

    I watched Traitor Keith's interview with Edwards tonight and they were both snickering that a Republican can not take questions from a democrat. Totally missing the point of course. But I thought it was hilarious given the fact the democrats are scared to debate on FOX at all.

    Posted by: TJ at November 29, 2007 10:39 PM

    SO, who had the nicer hair?

    Mike, did you ever live in Vichy France? Petain is thy name!!!!

    Edwards hair looked more real, but still like a pretty boy. Keith's looked like a wig with cheap halloween black hair spray in it.

    Edwards hair looked more real, but still like a pretty boy. Keith's looked like a wig with cheap halloween black hair spray in it.

    Ok, back to keiths nonanethestized castration. I'll need an old razor blade, a pair of needle nose pliers and large cinder block painted with a happy face. After he passes out when can jam it in his mouth and take a picture just like master o'Reilly wants.. liberal cheese eating surrender monkeys. Hell even the French rejected the Chirac and his corrupt appeasement but not Mike, hang on to the end buddy. maybe the Monkees will reunite too

    He's probably using that Ronco spray on hair treatment from the informercial a fews years back. Mike does that to his ponytail

    ENOUGH about the ponytail. I knew I never should have told you about that McCool. Or that drunken night in Vienna with the boys choir! HATE YOU!

    "OK! OK! enough, you win."

    No, I don't 'win' at all! To the contrary....you've 'won' for the last six years.

    Lets see what has occured in those six years:

    1) - A surplus turned into record deficits and debts.
    2) - A government with a shameful legacy of torture....undoing centuries of American ideals and traditions.
    3) - A citizenry surprisingly tolerate of government eavesdropping and diminishing of individual rights.
    4) - A public tolerance for a virtual imperial presidency who seems to have no respect for the fact that he is but one co-equal branch of our government.
    5) - A compliant and spineless Congree who themselves seem to have no understanding of the fact that they are supposed to be a co-equal branch of government charged with oversight.
    6) - An increasingly bought and paid for Congress by corporate America and an incredible public indiference to K-Street corruption.
    7) - A level of divisiveness unprecedented in modern American history. No, not even during the Vietnam War was there THIS much animosity between left and right America. All prodded on and applauded by a president who once called himself a uniter but turned out to be one of the most proliferate deviders in American history.
    8) - A level of personal selfishness and 'me first' mentality in society I've never seen in my lifetime before.
    9) - A rapidly growing and ever more dangerous division between the rich and the the poor.
    10)- A rapidly growing indebtedness to an adversarial nation that probably DOES have the power to eventually subjugate us!

    But people like YOU and your handlers continue to worry about the ragtag Islamic Radicals as our biggest threat, while doing everything in your power to increase the very threat you fear.

    Sorry McCool....I haven't "won" by a long shot!

    "Mike, did you ever live in Vichy France"

    No, but I've lived in post WWII occupied Germany (twice), Thailand, Panama, Fascist Spain...and oh yes, I have visited France, Japan, The Phillipines, Vietnam, Costa Rico, Ireland, and several others.

    Any more questions?

    1 somewhat Bush and this congresses fault. War is expensive
    2 and 3 Bullshit hyperbole, Torture is a machete across the neck
    4 is a result of 5 -SOMEONE has to take charge
    6 - ok
    7- That goes both ways obviously
    8- been going on since the 60s Mike, you were there. thats where it started
    9= Not true check IRS data Democratic talking point myth
    10 Good point
    "ragtag" is effective with a nuke Mike

    TERM LIMITS for congress will solve much of this

    Mike, did you ever live in Vichy France"

    No, but I've lived in post WWII occupied Germany (twice), Thailand, Panama, Fascist Spain...and oh yes, I have visited France, Japan, The Phillipines, Vietnam, Costa Rico, Ireland, and several others.

    Any more questions?

    Posted by: Mike at November 29, 2007 11:05 PM
    And I'm sure you prefer any of them to current america

    I'm feeling guilty about the Vienna Boys Choir thing. I must be tired

    "Edwards hair looked more real, but still like a pretty boy. Keith's looked like a wig with cheap halloween black hair spray on it."

    Now THAT'S important!

    nuance mike
    dont stay up late skinning cats in the attic again ok?

    McCool:

    "And I'm sure you prefer any of them to the current on the America."

    On the contrary. I'd say I love my country far more than you do, and THAT is exactly why I care so much when it strays from it's founder's principles.

    "I'm feeling guilty about the Vienna Boy's Choir thing. I must be tired."

    Why feel guilty? Didn't bother me...but it did make you look awful petty.

    Keep right on pumping out those silly red herrings and stereotypes. They only reinforce my beliefs and undermine your own.

    "Torture is a machete across the neck."

    So it's up to YOU to define torture, huh?

    Screw the Geneva Convention, American honor, traditions, and ideals.

    What was important was that Edwards laughed at a Republican having to answer a question from a liberal while being scared to debate on FOX himself. OlberFUCK and Pretty boy John missed this key point.

    I guess you did too, Mike.
    Why do you think the dems are scared to go on FOX? If Dems represent what most Americans think and Fox is so biased and conservative why do they blow away the compitition (especially MSNBC) every night? I have yet to see a liberal that can give a straight answer to this with out spinning.

    *****RED HERRING ALERT******
    John Edwards has pretty hair

    Torture is a machete across the neck."

    So it's up to YOU to define torture, huh?

    Screw the Geneva Convention, American honor, traditions, and ideals.

    Posted by: Mike at November 29, 2007 11:19 PM
    No it's apparently up to you and a bunch of Schister lawyers to split hairs over letting abunch of fanatical thugs loos on technicalities and then you would be the first one to bitch when the assholes bomb a shopping mall. Youre starting to make me sick again Mike with the self righteous indignation thing

    TJ:

    "Why do you think the Dems are scared to go on FOX."

    "I have yet to see a liberal give a straight answer to this without spinning."

    Well, what do you want from me? Is it necessary for me to approve or justify everything the democrats do or don't do?

    Personally, I wish they had gone on Fox.

    To me, the Democrats are nothing more than the lesser of two evils (by a wide margin) in American Politics today.

    just interchange this with 9/11 victims after 8 years of slick willy getting blowjobs and not killing bin laden
    Posted by: McCool at November 29, 2007 9:01 PM

    The fact is that 9/11 happened on Bush's watch AFTER Bush ignored the Clinton Administration's warnings that Bin Laden should be their #1 concern.
    What did they know , right?
    Bush was more preoccupied with Star Wars technology from 1/01 - 9/01.
    So explain how Star wars helped us on 9/11?

    Also...Who promised to get Bin Laden "dead or alive"?
    How's that promise worked out?
    You're either very forgetful of these FACTS or it just doesn't fit into your mindset.
    Why don't you think, you crude mental case.

    You got nothing !

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 29, 2007 11:25 PM

    YES!! apparently the bong broke. WHY is back. Clinton could have smoke Bin Laden in the late 90's and chose not to becuase someone might take offense to that. maybe Jimmy Carter would frown upon it. Yes Bush made mistakes too but look objectively at Clinton and his spineless half measures and retreats taht emboldened these assholes

    TJ:

    "Why do you think the Dems are scared to go on FOX."

    "I have yet to see a liberal give a straight answer to this without spinning."

    Well, what do you want from me? Is it necessary for me to approve or justify everything the democrats do or don't do?

    Personally, I wish they had gone on Fox.

    To me, the Democrats are nothing more than the lesser of two evils (by a wide margin) in American Politics today.

    Posted by: Mike at November 29, 2007 11:27 PM

    Change that to Republicans and we agree Mike. See how easy that is?? See how fine a line it is?? truth/lie didn't Clinton teach you anything?

    TJ:

    "Why do you think the Dems are scared to go on FOX."

    "I have yet to see a liberal give a straight answer to this without spinning."

    Well, what do you want from me? Is it necessary for me to approve or justify everything the democrats do or don't do?

    Personally, I wish they had gone on Fox.

    To me, the Democrats are nothing more than the lesser of two evils (by a wide margin) in American Politics today.

    Posted by: Mike at November 29, 2007 11:27 PM

    Change that to Republicans and we agree Mike. See how easy that is?? See how fine a line it is?? truth/lie didn't Clinton teach you anything?

    you crude mental case. -
    If thats the opposite of spineless pollitically correct douchebag then I'll take it. but nothing against you.....

    anymore insights into that chemically/mentally challenged mind of yours WHY?

    Good enough then. I'll be over with your copy of the Koran later, buy some anal ease

    Mr McCool thinks long established Geneva convention standards regarding the definition of torture were defined by "Schister lawyers", who like "to split hairs". Also to the McCools of the world, Due process of law, one of the great principles that helped make America what it is...is but a quaint little formality that can be dispenced with the moment a little trouble shows up at our door.

    Mr. McCool, with your decidely un-American ideas, I'm GLAD 'I make you sick'.

    It's obvious that you think of yourself as an unwavoring patriot, but your reactionary mob mentality thoughts and words identify you as anything but.

    wide fucking margin.

    Posted by: at November 29, 2007 11:28 PM


    Thanks, 'new gal!'

    I WIN!!!!

    Mike with the self righteous indignation thing

    Posted by: McCool at November 29, 2007 11:25 PM


    I see you've met 'mike?'

    Me and Mike go wayyy back. I teach him, he refuses to learn...its odd, almost like he's unwilling to accept reality. Musta been the brown acid at woodstock

    I wish I was liberal and could see things so clearly. alas, but i am a poor knuckle dragging creature of mainstream america as disgusting as that is to Mike. I cant even chant rhymes at waterboarding protests!!

    Ok, mike im going to bed, its inmates run the asylum without any factual smackdown time. Your up. WHY is on deck.

    "Me and Mike go wayyy back."....Duh...Exactly HOW far back do you go. You sound more like 'new meat' to me!

    "I teach him, he refuses to learn.."....Duh...you haven't done a thing but post very tired and very old reactionary right wing talking points I've heard at least a thousand times before.

    Hint: To 'teach' someone something, you have to present ideas from a new and compelling perspective that actually awakens them to facts or ideas that they haven't considered before.

    I haven't seen any evidence that you have anything in your mental arsenal that I haven't heard and thouroughly considered many times in the past.

    His obsession with Fox and with Bill
    Even makes Keith's psychiatrist ill
    Krazy Keith's OCD
    And Fox dependency
    Make "worst person" for E. D. Hill

    His obsession with Fox and with Bill
    Even makes Keith's psychiatrist ill
    Krazy Keith's OCD
    And Fox dependency
    Make "worst person" for E. D. Hill
    Posted by: Katy Turic at November 30, 2007 12:00 AM

    "So it's up to YOU to define torture, huh?

    Screw the Geneva Convention, American honor, traditions, and ideals."

    I think you're referring to water boarding here which I think has been used maybe three times on enemy combatants. Congress hasn't defined it as torture and we do it to our own people for survival training so, no, I don't think it's torture. But I understand we could have a difference of opinion about that.

    I think we can all agree, though, that it is torture to flay people alive, dismember them, gouge their eyes out, drill holes into their skulls, and/or burn them with blow torches, which is what Al Qaeda does to our soldiers when they capture them.

    Sure Bush is incompetent. I'd agree O'Reilly deserves a lot of what he gets. Just don't try to tell me Olbermann isn't a paranoid leftist with a TV show.

    "I think you're refering to waterboarding here which has been used maybe three times on enemy combatants.".....You know that for a fact, huh?

    "Congress hasn't defined it as torture"....But the Geneva Convention, of which America were a big part of....has!

    "Which is what Al Qeada does to our soldiers when they capture them."....Just as the Viet Cong, The North Vietnamese, The Japanese, and others have done to our soldiers.

    This has never been about THEM!

    It's about US!

    Apparently you Olby haters flunked comprehension class in second grade, starting with you, Johnydumbass!

    All Keith said was that if E.D. is going to direct people to thank our troops at Walter Reed, they should find a SPECIFIC TROOP TO THANK!

    E.D. "some people don't think it's that important" Hill probably flunked the same comprehension class you did. Pathetic.

    I missed this earlier:

    Fake "Mike" at 10:56 PM:...."ENOUGH about the ponytail. I knew I should have never told you about that McCool. Or that drunken night in Vienna with the boys choir. HATE YOU!"

    THEN came "McCool" at 11:08 PM:...."I'm feeling guilty about the Vienna Boys choir thing. I must be tired."

    SO.....Not only is this "McCool" character guilty of changing his posting monikers within the very same conversation, he is not above name jacking as well....and to top it ALL off, he was having conversations with himself while posing as me.



    All Keith said was that if E.D. is going to direct people to thank our troops at Walter Reed, they should find a SPECIFIC TROOP TO THANK!

    Posted by: chuck at November 30, 2007 4:19 AM
    First of all KO should not have said anything.E.D. HILL was trying to do a good thing.If you had any brains you would see your own sentence says "TROOPS" not one lone soldier.And who the hell is KO to tell anyone what to do? Especially about our troops. What has he ever done for them? I never really put much stock into KO hating our troops but this is disgusting. And anyone who even tries to defend this is a moron.

    I agree with this post, Sheepdip, although you should have used the conditional form (I wish I were a liberal ....). However, I am not writing this to give you a grammar lesson. You're lack of familiarity with the English language is your most endearing feature. Rather, I just wanted to knock Ms. Turic's wretched "poetry" off the page.

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 30, 2007 12:20 AM

    Thats funny

    Good lord man, what a douchebag this guy is Ulbermann

    Once again, I see the hypocrite, Mr. blank-FLUCKER (A N O N Y M O U S), referencing me in the thrid person yet avoiding directly addressing my cogent points everywhere else......

    Oh dear Mr. blank-FLUCKER....you call your fellow man "sheep!" What an unChristian thing to do for a lay-minister! Using dehumanizing rhetoric to construct a political debate......how Nazi of you!

    Another point of hypocrisy for the man with no testicles.....Mommy (your wife) only lets you have them Sunday nights after you both watch DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES.

    May I also point out that although you may find tens of millions of Americans as mindless sheep for seeing the value in Bush's aggressive policies, you seem happy to simply accept total withdrawl without any opinion on what would happen to the tens of millions left to fend for themselves under the threat of radical islam.

    BTW, as a lay minister, I hope you embrase Christ's demand that you act like a sheep when it comes to following Him (The Good Shepherd)....you know, PSALM 23?....Are you against that piece of scripture as well?

    Keep it up Mr. blank-FLUCKER....you are providing lots of material for me to play with....you are almost as fun as Sir Loin of Milquetoast (Lucy Van Pelt)!

    ....and to top it ALL off, he was having conversations with himself while posing as me.

    But Mike, the voices in my head are much more intelligible than you or Why!!! Is that so wrong???

    Says a lot about the typical liberal Simple SImon, sap, asshat, chugger of Olby cock that would sit and watch that crap night after night.

    Now THATS funny

    Men die in war.

    Sometimes our enemies fight back.

    Some may even have the finances and knowledge to make the fight tough.

    Terrorist see the opposition in our country from pussys such as yourself and that gives them the hope, the will, the strength, resolve and an illusion they are winning. You fucking liberals and your whining for partisan reasons have prolonged this war at least two years and every death is at your feet chickne shit. WHy would France, Germany and Russia side with us when they see assholes like you in addition to their own greed, economies that are in the shitter, cowardness, passing the buck to us and violating the UN Oil for Food program giving Sadam money and arms so he could take a shit in a gold plated toilet while his people were dying.

    Yeah, I know, you think the Iraqis were better off under Sadam. Wonder how the world would be today if George Washington or Roosevelt thought the same way. Real men are born such as Patton. Pussies are create from having faggot/eunuch fathers and domineering mothers.

    You would rather cow down on your knees to terrorism as appeasers rather than die on your feet as free men.

    You are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

    Hell, you are a liberal.

    Liberal=Traitor=Stupid=Ignorant=Coward

    Posted by: Phony Soldier at November 30, 2007 8:54 AM

    But Mike is smarter than you isn't he??? Don't you understand he has considered ALL possibilities and you are wrong. He told me so, it must be right.

    Good post by the way, nail on the head stuff

    May I also point out that although you may find tens of millions of Americans as mindless sheep for seeing the value in Bush's aggressive policies, you seem happy to simply accept total withdrawl without any opinion on what would happen to the tens of millions left to fend for themselves under the threat of radical islam.

    Cee don't get all logical now, it confuses them, makes them shriek louder

    It looks like I caused some confusion.

    To the real "Mike" I am sorry for posting under a taken name. I did not mean to step on anyone's toes.

    I did make two posts under that name in the beginning.

    I actually agree a lot of what the real "Mike" has to say.

    I am a moderate Democrat that is furious with the way the Bush admin. has been so fiscally irresponsbile. Even conservatives like Greenspun and Sullivan have taken the Bush admin. to task for that.

    My only difference with the real "Mike" is that I truly believe American politics is broke and Olbermann and Hannity represent the worst examples of why. There is no nuance. There is simply personal attacks. There is no critical thought. It is simply my side is the best nyah nyah nyah.

    So as I said before, it is possible to dislike the Bush admin. and hate the type of politics that Olbermann represents.

    Thanks,

    Mike B. = to remove confusion.

    "I think the 'surge' is working,"


    ###
    One guess on who said this lovely statement this week after his visit to Iraq last week.....

    Ready?......

    .....

    ........

    "Murtha finds military progress in trip to Iraq"

    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07333/837824-100.stm?cmpid=latest.xml


    ###
    Oh boy...I would like a mea culpa from all of the anti-American and Bush haters who predicted the surge would....

    1) Fail

    2) Make matters worse

    3) Kill more people (Americans, Iraqis, terrorists)

    I am waiting for some kind of explaination from the likes of Mr. blank-FLUCKER, mental midget, whiney Mike and perhaps even the recetly absent Sir Loin of Milquetoast (Lucy Van Pelt).....

    Mr. Murtha seems to be ready to make nice with the wonderful (AND RIGHT!) George Bush....how about the rest of you dunces?

    Again I demand.....GET THE TROOPS HOME NOW!.....CUT THE FUNDS!

    And this is my post today, the 1,674th day since the declaration of Mission Accomplished in Iraq.....

    I am cee, good night and good luck.

    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

    "There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration's policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

    "I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

    "Lefties: Leave these pathetic drowning rats alone to stew in each other's juices. Get yourselves out in the street and fight this criminal administration in ways that really mean something, and that are noted by more than a handful of keyboard heroes!" Sir Loin of Beef

    "American liberals need to face these truths: The demand for self-government was and remains strong in Iraq despite all our mistakes and the violent efforts of al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias to disrupt it." DEMOCRAT Bob Kerrey

    "If we end up saying that because these people are committing these acts of terrorism in Iraq or Afghanistan, that we shouldn't have done the removal of Saddam or the removal of the Taliban, then we are making a fundamental mistake about our own future, about security, about the values we should be defending in the world." TONY BLAIR

    "You can't bring the troops home if you give George Bush $100 billion to wage this war. You're not supporting them. You're keeping them in harm's way." CINDY SHEEHAN

    "There is no doubt ... that Al Qaeda is operating in Iraq. There is no doubt that we've had to take very strong measures against them. And there is no doubt that the Iraqi security forces have got to be strong enough to be able to withstand not just the violence that has been between the Sunni and the Shia population and the Sunni insurgency, but also Al Qaeda itself." GORDON BROWN

    "People of America: the world is following your news in regards to your invasion of Iraq, for people have recently come to know that, after several years of tragedies of this war, the vast majority of you want it stopped. Thus, you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven't made a move worth mentioning. On the contrary, they continue to agree to the spending of tens of billions to continue the killing and war there." OSAMA BIN LADEN

    "Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda--worse for our society. It's as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was."
    KEITH OLBERMANN

    "Thinking such as your's is a cancer on our nation that needs to be cut out." MIKE posted 10/4/07 7:02PM

    Mike B @ 9:29: "I did make two posts under that name in the beginning."

    Thanks for clearing the fog out Mike B. No wonder it was so confusing. We started out with your innocent and honest use of the name....and then McCool decided to jump in and do a little name jacking a little later.

    I respect your dislike of Olbermann and fully understand. You seem to have your head screwed on straight. If more people on this blog would simply agree that people like Olbermann AND Hannity are BOTH symptoms of the problem, I would have no issue at all in that regard.

    From the beginning, the war, which I have always felt was un-necessary and counter-productive for America, has been the issue that has thrown me over the political edge. Take the war away, and I am personally as moderate as they come overall. I think BOTH sides have valid concerns and justifications behind many of their positions. In my opinion, this occupation of Iraq will be recorded historically as time when we lost our collective will and sanity as a nation in a monumental over-reaction.

    That said, the war has NEVER actually been a conservative/liberal issue. It became a republican/democratic issue mainly because republicans just happened to be the main driving forces behind it's inception.

    I agree that there ARE many things to dislike about Olbermann, but unlike yourself, the issues seem to be the main driving force behind liking or hating him for MOST people on this board.

    > If more people on this blog would simply agree that people like Olbermann AND Hannity are BOTH symptoms of the problem...

    Yeah of course, an Olbermann blog should toss in Hannity and talk about him too, becase Mike sez so. Tell me, Mike, do you also frequent the anti-Hannity websites like Hannityisamoron, and lecture them about why they should attack Keith Olbermann? I made a quick check and didn't see anything from you along that line. Yet you insist here that Olbermann Watch should dilute its focus and somehow transform itself to Olbermann & Hannity Watch.

    Your desperate Olbypologist attempts could not be more transparent.

    If olbermann would stick to the facts and not fabricate 'news' i might leave this site behind. Yet each year he becomes more and more vile, and loons continue to defend him. The thread here starts with an obvious misrepresentation of ED Hills' story. His accusation was blatantly false, and 80% of his fans are too ignorant to know. To them Keith's word is gospel. They are idiots.

    A classic statement from a self admitted "phony":...."You would rather cow down to terrorism as appeasers rather than die on your feet as free men"

    That kind of tough guy talk from "Phony" couch potato 'warriers' has always amused me.

    It's as if "Phony, Cee" and others like him have actually convinced themselves they are participating in this war themselves...and putting themselves at risk in the process.

    On the contrary...Cee even insists on his 'right' to pay lower taxes even as America is being pushed to the verge or bankrupsy, .... while "Phony" spends half his time on this board bragging about how patriotic he thinks he is, what a great job he thinks he has, or what scumbags he thinks anybody who disagrees with him are.

    It's sad but rather amusing at the same time.

    to admit it is driven by sheer hate.

    Think about it, Pastor DUMBFUCK! I mean Phallu-Cee! Laura, AKA, Angry Tranny wants to be friends with you since you two have so much in common.

    LOL!

    There is a big difference between Olbermann and Hannity. Hannity is a conservative pundit on a debate show. If you don't like debate shows, then you don't watch. Olbermann tries to disguise his show as a "news program". You can say Olbermann does not disguise his show well, but that is not the point. Hannity also does not tell deliberate lies to attack people he does not agree with. You can make the argument that he only presents facts that help his political point of view but that is far from making up total lies and distorting information for political gain. Hannity also is not pushing one particular candidate. Olbermann is obviously pushing for Hillary Clinton by attacking Barak Obama and defending all of Hillary's many gaffs.

    "Tell me Mike, do you also visit the anti Hannity sites such as Hannityisamoron and lecture them about why they should attack Keith Olbermann?"

    Uh No Johnny, I don't. Because it seems rather silly to spend hours on a blog attacking someone because I don't like their speech, when all I have to do is change the channel. Being on a blog in defense of someone you mostly like makes far more sense to me than being on one piling on to someone you hate.

    That said, if you will go back and read my post again, as well as what it was in response to, you will see that I wasn't 'lecturing' anyone....I simply made an honest observation about political affiliations that you can't honestly deny.

    It was mean't more as a compliment to the honest objectivity of Mike B than it was a "lecture" to anyone else.

    You are referring to "Gokkun" Hannity's show on Fucks Noises.

    Probably you've never heard Gokkun on his radio show "3 hours of the most hard hitting, latest breaking news of the day. Just 3 hours a day is what we ask" Then he proceeds to bitch about the Clintons for 2.5 hours.

    "Hannity also does not tell deliberate lies to attack people he does not agree with" Sure. And Larry Craig has a "wide stance"

    > Being on a blog in defense of someone you mostly like makes far more sense to me than being on one piling on to someone you hate.

    OK, I'll take you at your word, and accept that you are here to defend Olbermann, something I believe you have at some point in time denied. Now that it's out in the open, can we please agree on some basic rules of logic? Bringing up Hannity does NOT defend Olbermann. Hannity could be anything from a Rhodes scholar to a serial axe murderer, and it wouldn't change one whit the truth about Olby. Hannity, or anyone else you Olbypologists insist should be brought up, are logically irrelevant to the spin and lies of Keith Oralmann. "Hannity does it too" is not a defense of Oralmann. It's a distraction, a fallacious trick used by Olbypologists to change the subject to things that are logically irrelevant to Olby's journalistic sins.

    Once again the leftist Mensa wannabe's defer defedning their previous errors in judgement to personally attack and change the subject....

    Brilliant.

    The true coach potato warriors, wannawipe and whiney Mike, cast their hate on American policy and when they are shown to be wrong, they whine about the posters on OW.

    Aw, does little whiney Mikey and wannawipe need somemore time to formulate a response to a simple question like,

    "Where you wrong about the surge?"

    that hates the American Flag, Christmas and baby Jesus.

    (Wait. This ought to set the BU$HWIPES on "barking mad" mode)

    > "Where you wrong about the surge?"

    That's a question to ask Edward R Olbermann. The surge is destined to fail. It can't work. Night after night, week after week, all it will do is increase the violence, make things worse, etc etc. When will we hear Oralmann do a Special Education Komment about how he was wrong?

    And there is mental midget making even more grossly uninformed and unsupported hyperbolic claims about patriotic Americans while he remains silent over the obvious anti-American Olbermann which is the subject of this thread!

    mental midget/wannawipe/whiney Mike....OW's anti-America shrills

    "Bringing up Hannity does NOT defend Olbermann"

    Agreed!

    However, shows like Hannity's DOES in fact JUSTIFY shows like Olbermann's.

    There IS a difference!

    It's that pesky law of physics once again, manifesting itself in the form of 'journalism'; ..."for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction".

    The fly in that ointment for me is that we have yet to realize sufficient reaction to the proliferation of reactionary right wing shows like hannity's to achieve a true "equal and opposite" collective reaction.

    Lord knows that the republicans have their flaws. So why does Olbermann fabricate news? Can't he stay on topic without making stuff up? Lets not even debate his immense hypocrisy.

    > However, shows like Hannity's DOES in fact JUSTIFY shows like Olbermann's.

    This is genuinely puzzling to me. Are you saying Hannity's tv show, co-hosted by a liberal and full of guests who disagree with each other as well as both hosts, JUSTIFIES Olbermann's show where Republicans aren't invited, conservatives don't get to speak, only one side of any political issue is represented? That a show where the balance is actually timed out with a stopwatch between both sides is the equivalent of Olbermann's never-give-the-other-side propaganda fest?

    Or are you talking about Hannity's radio show? There you'd have a point, but the equal and opposite reaction to the radio show is Air america, is it not? Or are you seriously contending that to counter Hannity's radio show, Olbermann is justified doing a tv "newscast" even more one-sided and biased than Hannity on the radio (who does have callers and guests that disagree with him)?

    Nice try but this is just another Olbypologist trick: defend Oralmann's one-sided propaganda by--what else?--bringing up Hannity again! If Hannity does it, that makes it right for Olbermann. I'm still waiting for you to tell all those anti-Hannity websites that they should start going after Olbermann too.

    "Aw does little whiney Mikey and wannawipe need somemore time to formulate a simple response to a simple answer to question like,

    "were you wrong about the surge""

    To begin with, I try to avoid making a habit of responding to very CHILDISH taunts like "little whiney Mikey" coming from someone who should spend a little less time lecturing others, and a little more time looking back at himself in the mirror.

    As for your "question"....once again, it's the WRONG question....But you obviously think you already know the 'RIGHT' answer.

    On the contrary, if you weren't so damned arrogant and cocksure about yourself, you would recall that my arguments about this war have NEVER been based on day to day or month to month changes in the level of violence. It has ALWAYS been about what an inane and costly exercise that America undertook with no real justification, ... and NO collective overall gain.

    Therefore, my position isn't, never was, and never will be based on a question about whether the "surge" did or did not 'work'.

    For your part Cee, you obviously will never understand how petty and juvenile your incestant and childish taunting makes you appear...but thats just fine with me....keep making a virtual fool of yourself.

    However, if you REALLY are a doctor, I just hope for the sake of your patients that you are far more objective AND much more of an adult than your overall behavior on this discussion board suggests.

    I agree that there ARE many things to dislike about Olbermann, but unlike yourself, the issues seem to be the main driving force behind liking or hating him for MOST people on this board.
    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 10:51 AM


    First of all, Mike B. welcome to OW.

    Now to the Mike, who by any of his other names, still smells as gamey:

    Your articulation of our reason for not liking Olbermann is pretty ironic considering that you have explicitly stated that the only reason you DO harbor any good will towards him is because he's the only idiot on tv who will air the material generally found on internet blueblogs.

    I'm wondering what you think are good reasons for the rest of us to "honestly" dislike Olbermann, his tailor?

    There are several hosts who are expressedly against the war,SOME of the expressly liberal in their politics--- Phil Donahue (when he had a show), Anderson Cooper, Larry King, Chris Matthews... who still manage to act as though being a conservative or a Republican is not tantamount to being a combination of John Gotti and Hitler.

    I think that they would also have managed to go to the Reagan Library to cover a debate and not then mug and sneer everything they announced where they sat.

    And I'm pretty sure too, that they could accept the historical practice of sending Christmas cards to the troops, without labeling it as a political grandstanding, even as they themselves politicize a most innocent and traditional gesture.

    Mike B, kudos for seeing through the odious narcissist and hateful bastard who is Keith Olbermann. And for disliking THAT individual more than you dislike and hold suspect ANY tom, dick, or harriet stranger on a blogboard who votes differently than you...

    I listened to Hannity last night and a liberal called in and argued with Hannity for 10 mins about Bush's peace talks and Clinton's latest lie. Hannity even held him over through the break. Hannity agree with the liberal that Bush's peace talks would not work and that it was a flawed strategy. The liberal did not call Hannity a great American. Hannity also played liberals profanity laced rants that they leave on his message line. When is the last time Olbermann allowed a conservative on his show, and agreed with anything the conservative said? If you are saying liberals have no voice but Olbermann in the media, then you might just be an Olbyloon.

    Pastor DUMBFUCK! is sure to lecture us all on the righteousness of the clusterfuck, the eveeeeeel of the secularist left that wants the USA to lose in the Middle East, and the "capable paws" of Chimp's administration.

    I HATE YOU, Mike.

    Thanks for nothing.

    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 11:54 AM


    As predictable as snow in the Sierras.

    Poor poor leftists....Recalling a debate 9 months ago that saw people like whiney Mike and mental midget saying the surge will not work and that Bush and his supporters are wrong and the Congressional Democrats and their fringe leftist supporters demanding troop reductions were right.....is called "taunting?"

    Mmmmm.....Well then, I guess I am taunting.

    Because when people make such grand statements like "American foreign policy is immoral, wrong, evil, etc" yet try (like the hypocrite Mr. blank-FLUCKER did at 11:45AM) to portray themselves as supporting the troops when the actual enforcers of the policy are trying to make the policy succeed, I like to make sure the reality of the situation is clearly presented.

    Policy payed for and supported by THE CONGRESS.....

    Policy executed by the executive (Commander-in-Chief).....the troops follow the orders.....

    This is the constitutional method I have, since 11/06 reminded all the leftists on this site about....And since this has continued, I would like to know why the positive outcomes of such policy are not applaudid and supported?

    Or do you still think the funds should be halted so the policy is changed to immediate withdrawal?

    Mmmm, whiney Mike?.....mmmm, mental midget?

    Oh, is it not the "right question?" Too bad because it is the ONLY question worth asking as brave men and women protect our national security and freedom of religion and thought around the globe!

    It is the question answered by President Bush but not the leftist ruling class who seem more concerned about their personal political viability.

    So, gents, again....a cogent and respectful post by the sheep-man (one of many dehumanizing descriptions by the likes of Mr. blank-FLUCKER)

    "Now to the Mike, who by any of his other names, still smells as gamey."

    First off, I'm waiting for you to accept the FACT that I stopped changing monikers long ago, and accept the FACT that even then, the vast majority of such monikers occured early in my time on this board...and stop pretending that I am still doing it!

    But THAT might actually be showing a little honesty and humility on your part, wouldn't it?....Can't have that, can we?

    Finally, maybe you should also consider that joining in a discussion with the pretext of calling someone's 'smell a little gamey' is hardly the way to get your questions or points answered respectfully.

    On the contrary, it places you only marginally higher than "Phony" on the ladder of civility.

    The fly in that ointment for me is that we have yet to realize sufficient reaction to the proliferation of reactionary right wing shows like hannity's to achieve a true "equal and opposite" collective reaction.
    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 11:34 AM


    So you don't like Hannity, or Colmes, or Fox News in general. And though they have liberals and conservatives onto together for balance, still will argue that they cut them off or yell at them or something or another...

    Do you REALLY think the "equal and opposite" reaction is a show where the host interviews only select journalists and Democratic pols?

    A show that airs every sort of accusation of Administrative malfeasance, no matter how tenuous, but then offers no rebuttal?

    It's interesting that you would defend this sort of show in this manner because there's not an "equal and opposite" show to match it on the whole of television.

    Taunter: "recalling a debate 9 months ago that saw people like whiney Mike"

    The problem here is that I'm not "people like whiney mikey and mental midget".

    My name is Mike. My REAL name is Mike. I am NOT part of a collective groupthink as you keep implying. Every idea I have is my OWN, and always will be.

    So kindly understand that I am not 'people like so & so', and I am anything but impressed with your own childish nationalistic groupthink that childishly believes that everything bad is 'left' and everything good is 'right'.

    so you are going to hell for hating baby Jesus and doubting Moron in Chief's capable paws.

    I'm willing to give Pastor DUMBFUCK! I mean Phallu-Cee a chance.
    Clown-Cee, where does your cult meet?
    I'd like to drop by to see you freaks speaking in tongues.

    Posted by: Why Don't I Think at November 30, 2007 12:14 PM

    His answer to the surge success is to attack the troops with his fiction and pray for the "freedom fighters" to rise up and attack again. Place your order now for Redacted.

    Sorry whiney Mike....your following statement totally makes your 12:16PM post a lie.....

    "Thinking such as your's is a cancer on our nation that needs to be cut out." MIKE posted 10/4/07 7:02PM


    ###
    Unless you would like to retract such a sweeping statement regarding ideology (which actually summarizes your attacks over the last year), especially with your use of such "group" descriptions like "neocon," you should quite while your way behind!

    That is why I call you whiney, Mike....The statement above shows the true character of your attacks here as opposed to your attempt at idealized benign "free-thinker."

    First off, I'm waiting for you to accept the FACT that I stopped changing monikers long ago, and accept the FACT that even then, the vast majority of such monikers occured early in my time on this board...and stop pretending that I am still doing it!

    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 12:08 PM

    Well, I've been terrifically accepting, Mike.

    I accepted it the first time you said you never used aliases.

    I accepted it when you said you had only had two aliases but had not and would not do that ever again.

    So now I'm to accept it after you again made such a COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY declaration and Johnnie cut in and said you had done it only the month prior.

    Well, I'll accept it again now, Mike.

    After all, you've given this OCD-over-names lady quite a bit of practice...

    Now, get on with your argument that we don't care for Olbermann merely because he's a liberal.

    Ready to move Sudan back into Africa?
    Lenin into the first half of XXth Century?
    Denouncing Musharraf as a petty dictator propped up by Chimpy's capable paws?

    The troops are just following orders.It no way attacks the troops
    Posted by: Why Don't I Think at November 30, 2007 12:40 PM

    Where have I heard this before? Sounds like a statment made after WWII in some kind of trial. But you are not comparing are troops to the troops in that trial now are you? No, never.

    "That is why I call you whiney mike"

    I don't really give a damn what childish logic you've used to justify your childish taunting.

    I've also explained how you took that statement you keep taunting me with out of context and completely misunderstood it's intended meaning...yet you refuse to move on....but all the while you keep implying that you want meaningful dialoque
    while all you REALLY want to do is childishly taunt and jeer at your political adversaries.

    All leading to but one conclusion; you are NOT one to question anyone else's "character".

    Thanks for demonstrating my previous point which is that "There is rarely a shred of truth or cohesive thought in any of your posts.
    You are an A1 bonified joke."

    Posted by: Why Don't I Think at November 30, 2007 1:08 PM

    This comming from the loon who made this statement of wisdom....

    "The troops are just following orders.It no way attacks the troops"
    Posted by: Why Don't I Think at November 30, 2007 12:40 PM


    "Now, get on with your argument that we don't care for Olbermann merely because he's a liberal."

    Thats an easy one!

    You, Janet, Factor, "Phoney", McCool, Jeff, Robert, Benson, and a muriad of others proudly identify yourselves as "conservatives".

    A preponderance of evidence also tell me that J$ is as well.

    On the other hand, poster's who identify themselves as either liberal or moderate who also dislike Olbermann. We seem to be limited to Mike B, although I do recall 1 or 2 others making that claim over the course of the last year.

    PRINCETON, NJ -- Republicans are significantly more likely than Democrats or independents to rate their mental health as excellent, according to data from the last four November Gallup Health and Healthcare polls. Fifty-eight percent of Republicans report having excellent mental health, compared to 43% of independents and 38% of Democrats. This relationship between party identification and reports of excellent mental health persists even within categories of income, age, gender, church attendance, and education. Gallup Poll


    Proof positive. You moonbats and olby loons need your medication.

    It was sooooo boring not to have the always expected and always delivered Gold Medal for Worst Person In The World, Bill O'Reilley!!

    Of course, old Keith had nothing bad to say about Bill O while Bill did something Keith would NEVER do: support the troops.

    Well, things are back to normal. Bill O is back to being #1 on Keith's hate list.

    So, John Gibson take deep breath: you will not be attacked again for a while. Bill O'Reilley is back.

    hats an easy one!

    You, Janet, Factor, "Phoney", McCool, Jeff, Robert, Benson, and a muriad of others proudly identify yourselves as "conservatives".

    A preponderance of evidence also tell me that J$ is as well.

    On the other hand, poster's who identify themselves as either liberal or moderate who also dislike Olbermann. We seem to be limited to Mike B, although I do recall 1 or 2 others making that claim over the course of the last year.
    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 1:18 PM


    This really makes sense to him...

    This is the gist of the logic:

    Republican and conservatives are the only people who don't like Olbermann at OW....How do I prove that? Because they ARE Republicans an conservatives and they don't like Keith Olbermann....

    Yeah, that's why we're all waxing away on Anderson Cooper here...

    Try googling the logical fallacy of the "circular argument" that involves the effort to prove your argument (arrive at a conclusion) merely by restating the your original premise.

    The Geneva Convention is an agreemant and a guideline for rules of engegement between HUMAN beings, regardless of what UNIFORM they wore.

    The enemy today wears no uniform and neither is it human. Any living, breathing humanoid creature who WANTS to die surely can not be considered human.

    So, unless you find the signature of the Al-Qaeda on any document recognized as part or all of the Geneva Convention, please DO NOT refer to it. The animals who are always more than ready to cut off a head deserve no such consideration.

    Sorry, Senator McCain!

    Flip
    "It's rhetorical is what is getting better. It's over-optimist. It's an illusion." July John Murtha

    Flop
    "I think the 'surge' is working." Now.. John Murtha

    Normally I don't play the grammar correction game, but this is too good to pass up...

    "You're lack of familiarity with the English language..."
    -A N O N Y M O U S

    "You're" is a contraction of "you" and "are." You should be very careful correcting someone else's grammar and their lack of familiarity with the English language. So as not to make yourself look like an assclown in the process.

    The question was raised, (pardon me if I paraphrase): why are Democrats afraid to have debate on FOXNews?

    The answer is simple: Democrats are used to have softball questions, thrown at them by CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBS, PBS and any of the local stations run by the above-mentioned cabal.

    So, they would NEVER be prepared to face a FAIR question, to which they would not have a prepared and predictable response.

    Related to this topic: have you EVER seen a guest on Olbermann's show that was not singing the same tune as the host??

    So as not to make yourself look like an assclown in the process.

    Posted by: Grammar Police at November 30, 2007 2:04 PM


    It's not the first time she has done it, nor, will it be the last.

    Cecelia regards my argument citing 'proof is in the pudding" as a "logical fallacy", but I expected that.

    Here's the problem with YOUR argument; Your argument is that is that I NEVER argued that conservatives were the "only" people on OW who personally dislike Olbermann. In fact, my 1:18 PM post proves that.

    My argument was is that the vast majority of anti KO posters on this blog ARE also conservative. This DIDN'T happen by chance as you seem to imply.

    Now if you want to modify your argument to 'it is possible to be a liberal and still hate Keith Olbermann', then I would have no argument with that.

    After all, you and Brandon don't seem to be too fond of each other.

    Mike, let's get some FACTS straight here. Despite the fact that YOU keep on insisting that Olbermann is delivering an OPINION show, MSNBC bills it as a NEWS program. Despite the fact that YOU insist that Olbermann is a COMMENTATOR, he and the network refer to him as being a NEWS ANCHOR. Apparently your opinion of yourself is so high that you believe that because YOU label something that everyone else will agree with you. But somehow, I think MSNBC and Olbermann himself are more astute judges of what Countdown and Olbermann are about and they claim it's NEWS. Your entire defense of Olbermann seems predicated on the belief that because YOU think it's opinion, then it is. Hate to break it to you buddy but it's NOT. Furthermore, if you were here to just defend Olbermann, that would be one thing. Instead, you seldom if ever discuss Olbermann at all and launch into some off topic tirade designed to change the subject. If you would at least once admit that he's running an opinion-fest DISGUISED as a news program, or at least ONCE admit that he was wrong or purposefully misstated something, then you might have an iota of credibility. Instead, like the rest of the Olbyloons, you haven't a single shred of credibility, just like your buddy Olbermann.

    My argument was is that the vast majority of anti KO posters on this blog ARE also conservative. This DIDN'T happen by chance as you seem to imply.

    Now if you want to modify your argument to 'it is possible to be a liberal and still hate Keith Olbermann', then I would have no argument with that.

    After all, you and Brandon don't seem to be too fond of each other.

    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 2:10 PM


    Why would I want to modify my argument when you've never addressed the one I made.

    You have based the dislike that known conservatives here have towards Olbermann on the fact that he holds leftist positions.

    Prove that, without merely restating your premise.

    Yukon Jack, the very important principle that we adhere to simply because we ARE America, should NOT be determined by the the nature of our enemy.

    Once again....its' not about THEM....it's about US!

    THAT seems to be the overiding principle that you don't understand, yet to people like me and even people in your own party like John McCain, it is THE issue.

    Living in the gutter just because your enemy lives there makes us more like THEM, ..... and less like what America is actually supposed to stand for.

    "Prove that, without restating your premise."

    The proof is in the pudding.

    But Mike, as a conservative (not across the board ie, abortion and gun control) my disdain for KO is rooted in his all out assault on my ideals and party. I started watching Countdown because he displayed a kind of watchdog mentality, and I think it is important to shine a bright light on crooked politics. But he went off the deepend in an obvious ratings grab ploy and lost my respect. Then he went even farther left and began fabricated stories. His agenda has blinded his common sense, and it disgusts me that he still has a venue for his hate. So no more Keith and a lot less watching MSNBC.

    By the way, its great to watch Cee and Mike banter! The perfesser vs. doc.... always worth coming here for that!

    "Prove that, without restating your premise."

    If I go into a strange town and 95% of the cars are red, what am I going to conclude?

    Obviously, I am going to conclude that people in that town really like red cars and forever associate that town with red cars....and so would you.

    The fact that 5% of the cars in that same town were blue would not change that assumption.

    Brandon, I HAVE criticized Olbermann. You just weren't paying attention when I did it, or chose to forget about it.

    Must of my arguments are "Off topic" because, to me, it's not about the man at all. It's about what he represents and what he stands for...and against.

    Therefore, discussing those issues does not seem to be "off topic" to me at all.

    I worked in the mines, underground.

    I worked in the bush, cutting lumber.

    I worked on a factory floor.

    So, I am quite familiar with four-letter words, profanity and any and all sorts of obscenities.

    BUT, as I matured, I grew out of the necessity of using them, and I consider anyone who thinks that to convey their point of view in a convincing manner needs vulgarity, profanity and crassness are nothing but immature slobs in desperate need of learning the English language.

    As a non-scientific observation, it seems that the proponents and users od vulgarity are predominantly liberals, and Olbermann fans.

    f I go into a strange town and 95% of the cars are red, what am I going to conclude?

    Obviously, I am going to conclude that people in that town really like red cars and forever associate that town with red cars....and so would you.

    The fact that 5% of the cars in that same town were blue would not change that assumption.

    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 2:23 PM

    Bad analogy.

    In order to have an accurate one for what you're arguing you'd have to argue that most of the people there drove red cars because they had a philosophical aversion to other colors.

    Not that they preferred red cars to other colored cars, because they think red is pretty and that's what they want to drive (or to watch on TV...)...but that they personally were adverse to other cars being any other color and felt they should be painted.

    That's what you're arguing with us when it comes to Olbermann.

    You've already admitted that there are distinctive reasons for not liking the man, but that the reason conservatives here don't like him, the reason we think he should change the format of his show, is because he's an unbashed liberal with views counter to our own.

    Prove it.

    Mike, is a dead America with Geneva Convention Principles better than a LIVE America without them?

    Especially with the fact that the current enemy is NOT a signatory to it???

    Just asking!


    I would conclude that they were Communists, and I'd leave very quickly before the provide me healthcare.
    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 30, 2007 2:44 PM

    while they gulaged your bourgeois self...

    > SO let me get this straight, KO should change the format of his show because you don't agree with him.
    Only here at OW !

    Man you are really dishonest. You might be Keith himself. You quote Cecelia summing up someone ELSE'S argument, and then adding: Prove It. You leave off the prove it part and pretend that you are quoting Cecelia's own viewpoint.

    That's as sleazy and dishonest a lie as Olbermahn himself could deliver. Olbyloon tactics exposed again.

    SO let me get this straight, KO should change the format of his show because you don't agree with him.
    Only here at OW !

    Posted by: at November 30, 2007 2:54 PM


    Are you suggesting the man will utterly lose his ability to air unfounded accusations and charges simply by airing a counter view?

    "Mike is a dead America with Geneva Convention principles better than a LIVE America without them?"

    Putting aside the fallacy that we are facing such a stark choice, I'd say if we choose to abandon the principle's that made us who we are, then I could argue that we in the process of killing America by making such choices.

    Of course the real fallacy is that we need to redefine the established definition of torture in order to 'win' this war....AND to be able to say we don't do what we are already doing.

    As long as I can shower thrice daily, have access to soft and absorbent toilet paper and am not denied a well-chilled Pinto Grigio, I think I could be a member of the proletariat.

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 30, 2007 2:59 PM

    and certainly if you never have to encounter one.

    That's as sleazy and dishonest a lie as Olbermahn himself could deliver. Olbyloon tactics exposed again.

    Posted by: johnny dollar at November 30, 2007 3:03 PM


    I think Mike's premise is pretty sleazy and dishonest too, Johnny.

    Especially considering that he airs it on a board where the owner has allowed all and sundry to voice any and every political opinion.

    Although you'd like to keep the focus on Olbermann here, as chief blogger and moderator you have no objection to all points of view about Olbermann and his show being aired.

    I don't know of conservative here who has advocated that the format of any other show be changed or who has started a Matthews Watch, etc.

    But in Mike's case you have a man who has expressly said that Olbermann is hard to defend but that he does because Keith's chief redeeming quality is that he airs blueblog fodder and who has relentlessly criticized Fox News for having conservative hosts.

    Frankly, I wish the boy would stop projecting HIS partisan hang-ups onto the rest of US....

    Putting aside the fallacy that we are facing such a stark choice, I'd say if we choose to abandon the principle's that made us who we are, then I could argue that we in the process of killing America by making such choices.
    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 3:06 PM

    This from the man who wants government mandated health insurance for all, or else we will garnish your wages, paid for by all to "protect the children". What pincipal of the constitution does that fall under? Where is the choice?

    Have you seen "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly," yet?

    If not, could your review it?

    If so, never mind.
    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 30, 2007 12:44 PM

    Never heard of it.

    I made my point about scum who use vulgar profanity, on a previous post.

    Same goes for similar scum who resort to name-calling and distortion of the names of other posters.

    Right, "Why don't you think"?

    It must hurt that you have no valid and lucid argument.

    Mike, re your post at November 30, 2007 at 3:06 PM, If we were dealing with conventional enemies, I would not debate your point for a single second.

    But we are not dealing with anything as such. The enemy we are facing is glorifying death and nothing would make them happier than killing themselves and be in Paradise with a 72 year-old virgin, in the bosom of their prophet.

    So, negotiating is out. So, talking is out. If your enemy is willing to die, regardless, what is your ace card??

    What is your alternative to total extermination?

    Why even consider the Geneva Convention with a non-signatory therof?

    Would you kiss someone who slapped you in the face? Would you embrace the scum who raped your wife and/or daughter?


    Excellent!

    Favor us with a review, please, much like your "Redacted" review.

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 30, 2007 3:54 PM

    Oh, I see, you are doing the whole, "You need to watch Redacted before you can condem it" thing. I don't need to watch a snuff film before I condem it and I do not need to watch Redacted before I condem it. Michael Medved summed up the movie pretty well. I won't wast my money.

    Amazing that you loons even thought the movie was bad but still push its flawed message on us... the people smart enough to spend the 8 bucks on a book.

    Who thinks Keith will blame consevatives for the hostage thing today??????

    I think it is a lock, unless he left his desk to run to Hilary to be a bullet sheild.

    If it turns out just to be some nutcase, watch how this story becomes much smaller to Keith. If it was Rudy, Keith wouldn't give a shit.

    The details are coming out on TV that it is some mentally deranged idiot. Though I am sure CNN and MSNBC are checking his voting record if possible. CNN will do the background work here but not on the gay general. Whatever fits the agenda.

    I know the liberals are probably already pouncing on their crap web sites. It will funny if he turns out to be a crazy democrat.

    How nice it must be not to have to think, indeed not to want to think, The Factor. Do you have Medved's number in case I ever sustain a head injury?

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 30, 2007 4:40 PM

    I think it is far to late for that. Another head injury could only make you smarter. Oh, and the bomber that is at HRC camp, I am guessing a 9/11 truther. Maybe Ron Paul can talk him down.

    Your right TJ the left wing nuts are already saying it is probally a neo-con, but it turns out he is some conspiracy nut. What political party has the most conspiracy nut jobs? Oh thats right the Democrats.

    Refer to the Gallup poll I posted earlier today.

    I don't know Fishey. Seems like Ron "Tri Lateral Commission" Paul, Tom "There Goes a Black Helicopter" Tancredo and Duncan "No Mexican Can Jump Over This Fence" Hunter have joint, but exclusive right to the conspiracy theories.

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 30, 2007 5:11 PM


    Well, while you two are on pins and needles waiting and arguing over the "political" leanings and fallout of someone described as a person who is "known" to be mentally ill, can the rest of us just thank God the hostages were released?

    "Must of my arguments are "Off topic" because, to me, it's not about the man at all. It's about what he represents and what he stands for...and against. Therefore, discussing those issues does not seem to be "off topic" to me at all." Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 2:28 PM

    Mike that's some rich fantasy world you live in. First of all you tell us that because YOU classify Countdown as an "Opinion" show, we should all go along with what you THINK, even though Keith himself and the network classify it as a News program.

    Now you're trying to feed us this line that you never feel you are off-topic because you don't feel it's the man or the show that is truly important, but the topics he discusses. Ahem. The name of the blog? Olbermannwatch. The purpose of the blog? To expose Keith Olbermann's lies and biases in action. Once again, you want to play king of the universe and decide what is on-topic and off-topic on this board, or more correctly, change the agenda to be about what YOU want to talk about.

    Honestly, Olbermann has to have, hands down, the craziest assortment of fans out there. Thank goodness there aren't that many of you and most of you seem home-bound and tied to your computer. Otherwise, I'd worry about your safety and welfare and that of others you encountered when you ventured out into the real world with the rest of us.

    I am thrilled they are released. The difference is that I would think they are dems since they were in Hillary's office, but I am still happy they are free. The far left likes it when bad things happen to Republicans.

    What I am talking about is the left's reaction to everything. If it turns out to be a wacko Conservative, Keith will have programming for weeks even if he is mentally ill. If its a crazy lefty, the story will die tonight.

    Move to Iran where you might be happy, O'lielly.

    Exactly TJ. If a conservative commentator receives an unidentified substance or threat in the mail, it's funny to Olby and his band of enablers. If, however, HE is the recipient of such a thing, it is a dire matter of national security and the person is obviously in some sort of vendetta to "get him". It's the mentality that all Republicans are bad, all Democrats are good that just wrongheaded and his hand-picking of news items to reinforce the beliefs of his viewers instead of giving them unbiased news that grates and is intellectually dishonest.

    Perhaps O'Lielly would be more comfortable in Venezuala with the Democrats much beloved Chavez. Or maybe Cuba with Fidel. The democrats love their dictators.

    You're too intelligent and articulate to write such poop.
    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 30, 2007 5:37 PM

    In defense of Brandon, no, he's not...

    “CBS is expanding its coverage of the environment,” the ad reads. “We seek a talented reporter/host for Internet video broadcast. We are looking for smart, creative, hard working up and comers, who can bring great energy, CREATIVITY and a dash of HUMOR to our coverage. A deep interest in the environment and sustainability issues will serve you well.”

    You are wicked smart, funny, irreverent and hip, oozing enthusiasm and creative energy,” the ad reads. “This position requires strong people, reporting, STORY TELLING and writing skills. Managing tight deadlines should be second nature. KNOWLEDGE OF THE ENVIRO beat is a big plus, BUT NOT REQUIRED.”

    Liberal story tellers with no actuall knowledge of the enviroment should apply to spout propaganda on the global warming hoax. The first story they can tell is Chicken Little.

    Liberal story teller with no experience or knowledge, spouting propaganda----Sounds like Keith Olbermann!

    "Must of my arguments are "Off topic" because, to me, it's not about the man at all. It's about what he represents and what he stands for...and against. Therefore, discussing those issues does not seem to be "off topic" to me at all." Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 2:28 PM

    Well sorry, but this blog IS, just about the man. I dont even care if he's right most of the time (which he is not) the man attacks one side only and his only proof comes from that side. He never shows the other side or debates someone with an opposing view.This is beyond laughable.Any time I hear a story against someone from any party I want to hear the other side.There are always 2 sides to a story.And if KO would just do that, I dont think there would be an Olbermann Watch.His show reminds ms of the Dan Rather fiasco.The documents are forged and they come from a biased source but he believes the story true.Well ,I dont care what he believes or KO. Show some facts with credible sources and not biased sources.

    "First of all KO should not have said anything.E.D. HILL was trying to do a good thing.If you had any brains you would see your own sentence says "TROOPS" not one lone soldier.And who the hell is KO to tell anyone what to do? Especially about our troops. What has he ever done for them? I never really put much stock into KO hating our troops but this is disgusting. And anyone who even tries to defend this is a moron."

    ANON and others like this chickenblogger serously have something wrong in their brains.

    Keith was right, E.D. was wrong. WALTER REED DOES NOT ACCEPT ANONYMOUS THANK YOUS TO TROOPS. You have to personalize it and name the troops to thank!

    How hard is it for you Olby haters to understand that? Seriously. On a scale of one-to-10, an 8? A 10 perhaps?

    And before any of you try to sidestep my comments and try to label my an Olby apologist or typical liberal, I'm an Independent, I'm an Olbermann fan but that doesn't mean I or anyone else that's a fan refuse to find fault with him. I sometimes do, but this E.D. Hill non-controversy is not one of them. This post and production was TOTALLY off-base and unnecessary.

    And by the way, you Olby haters wondering what he's done for US troops conveniently ignore Keith interviewing or thanking in person Iraq war veterans Brian McGough, Paul Riekoff and other patriots who actually SERVED.

    Oh, but Votevets.org veterans who want to bring our troops home or relocated to Afghanistan, they don't count to you chickenhawks, right?

    Jesus Christ, Keith Olbermann is a pathetic human being. What a waste of oxygen. Why do they even allow this f'in moron on the television. He's pathetic.

    Posted by: chuck at November 30, 2007 6:43 PM

    Earth to moron, attacking someone for trying to bring some joy into the life of troops at Walter Reed for making a mistake with the address is cowardly and hateful. How does he even know that she supports the Iraq war? Just because she is on Fox News? You obviously did not watch the clip were she corrects her mistake using her own recourses. Keith supports the troops because he thanks Votevets.org who bashes the administration and the Iraq war? Please. Why not apologize to the soldier he slandered on national television by saying he betrayed his country. Why not admit like Jack Murtha did that the surge is working because of our troops? Why not go to Walter Reed an interview the troops to get their opinion? That would require the risk that one might disagree with him. Can't have that on Olby planet.

    Brandon, Brandon, Brandon....Just when I start to give you some credit for being something more than just another OW troll, there you go again rattling off a string of tripe like this:

    "Thank God there aren't that many of you, and most of you seem homebound and tied to your computer. Otherwise I'd worry about your safety and welfare and that of others you encountered when you ventured out into the real world with the rest of us."

    I REALLY don't understand what you think you are accomplishing when you go and rattle off a string of utter BS like that....but I guess you just can't help yourself.

    Now here's a little reality for you. Since my last post about mid day, I've been 40 miles away and back and met with several friends and business associates in the "real world". This is fairly typical for me.

    These associates I'm referring to are all very much "real world" people and most of them are quite conservative. However, none of them are like you. One just retired as president of a local Community College....Another is currently a political talk show host at a local radio station....and all of them are either professionals, or former professionals.

    Is THAT REAL world enough for you Brandon?

    Don't you think it's about time you stop stereotyping your political and blogosphere adversaries and step up a level or two in sophistication, .... or is that just too much of a stretch for your juvenile mind?

    Perhaps you do mingle with real human being face to face Mike but your last post is nothing but another diversionary tactic, the likes of which you are famous for. You do not address my points regarding your demands that everyone think like YOU and agree that Countdown is an OPINION show. Perhaps instead of wasting your energies here with meaningless posts, you might want to lobby MSNBC to correctly relabel Olbermann's "news" program to Opinion. Just tell them "because Mike said so" as a reason and I'm sure they'll comply (not).

    And of course, you failed to address what I said about how you believe that whatever you want to talk about here is suitable discussion fodder despite the name and intent of this blog. Your ego is undoubtedly much like Olbermann's: unusually large but based on absolutely nothing but your own belief in yourself. News flash for you Mike: you ain't that great and neither is your idol Olbermann. Perhaps if you dropped your one-sided arguments and used real facts instead of the latest press releases from the Clinton campaign, Media Matters, and Huffington Post, you (and Olbermann) might be taken more seriously. But that is beyond your intellectual grasp apparently.

    Also--Chavez? Don't make me laugh. The liberal websites are either a) refusing to talk about the hundreds of thousands in the streets protesting Chavez or b) claiming that they've been paid to do so by the enemies of Chavez. They love the socialist dictator just as they love Castro. Come on, these are people who have had discussions on which industries they want to nationalize when they are in office in 2009. Let me repeat that: Nationalizing industries. THAT is the true face of the Democratic party, the side that Mike and his ilk are loath to claim but are most certainly the majority not the minority!

    http://www.6thcolumnagainstjihad.com/a_gmason_p4.htm

    Some lite reading about Islam after you get sick of reading Mike's holier than thou, more intelligent than thou approach to life

    Straight from Democratic Underground: The ultimate "Let's make shit up about Hugo Chavez" Thread
    Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 02:02 PM by devilgrrl
    Come on kids! Let's do the US Corporate Media outlets a favor and make shit up about Hugo Chavez. It's pretty obvious that they want us to hate the guy in hope invading Venezuela, so don't hold back, let's see what sticks after throwing shit against a wall.

    Don't worry, I'll post a "Let's make shit up about Iran" thread next week just to be fair.

    THAT is the real mindset of the Democratic faithful. Currently that thread has over 120 replies. See any condemnation of Chavez at DU? Huffington Post? No and no.

    Energy companies should be nationalized now.

    Posted by: Bill O'lielly at November 30, 2007 8:08 PM

    Ok communist. How about liberals quit blocking drilling in ANWAR and the Gulf first or maybe yoru environmentalist buddies make it a little easier to build a damn refinery in this country. How about that before we inject MORE govt into the economy. Typical liberal answer for anything. Let the govt solve it.

    Cecelia: "I thinks mike's premise is pretty sleazy and dishonest too Johnny."

    Cecelia, I'm GLAD I keep driving you too make 'sleazy' personal attacks on me. It MUST mean that I'm getting to you deep down in some primoral way. You don't like my 'premises', ..... so in the end, you always respond with yet another personal attack.

    You are the one who choose to engage in a day long semantical argument with me about whether or not WPITW is really satire or not...and then you seem to concede the point in the end, but only after I objected to yet another one of your unprovoked personal attacks on me when you pretended to disquise what you were doing as a metaphor for what YOU believe Olbermann is doing in WPITW.

    BTW, I just carefully watched the WPITW segment last night, which is something I don't usually watch or pay attention to you...and I can assure you that what I saw WAS a version of satire.

    As for your latest unprovoked "sleazy" attack on my character (in response to someone ELSE'S sleaze, no less), I can assure you that you that NO person that I know personally in the 'real' world considers me "sleazy", .... and NO person I know personally has ever called me any of the many names I have been called on this blog.

    I expect it from some others on here, but it always surprises me anew when it comes from you.

    In the end...I suppose that is what draws me to this blog. I never see this kind of nastiness in the REAL world, and I really am curious just what it is that make people like you tick?


    In the end...I suppose that is what draws me to this blog. I never see this kind of nastiness in the REAL world, and I really am curious just what it is that make people like you tick?

    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 8:20 PM

    Ever the righteous social scientist just observing us to learn what makes us tick (liberal euphemism for why you are not enlightened like me)

    n the end...I suppose that is what draws me to this blog. I never see this kind of nastiness in the REAL world, and I really am curious just what it is that make people like you tick?

    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 8:20 PM

    I didn't concede the point that WPITW is satrie, Mike, I answered your argument after you finally quit repeating a rote dictionary definition and put one up.

    It always take a while with you...

    And yes, I know we're supposed to consider ourselves lucky to have you on this board telling us that we don't like someone strictly because we object to their political views, just as we're supposed to feel honored when you tell us we don't understand satire.

    Well, you may actually live in a world where you can imply such things about the people around you and they respond by thinking that you're as wonderful as you think you are.

    But that's not happening here. You're not getting away with that crap. That's what makes us tick.

    SO Brandon, there you go chiding me for not answering your "points" when you just ended your last post with inane and childish insults directed at me by calling me "homebound", along with other such nonsense.

    But you don't consider THAT a "diversionary tactic"? For God's sake, look in the damned mirror!

    What kind of a fantasy world do you live in that makes you think you can constantly throw insults at your adversaries and then deride them for not responding in a manner that pleases you?

    If you want an adult debate with me that includes mutual respect, then you will refrain from the insults and stereotypes that are apparently so ingrained in your persona that I'm not even sure that you understand that you are constantly doing it.

    AMEN
    Sing it Sister!!!

    Its odd how two complete strangers can have essentially the same take on you isn't Mike?

    But Cecelia, YOU'RE the one to chose to jump in that satire discussion with both feet when you could have just as easily let it go.

    And sorry you don't understand this, but the opinions I choose to express on this board are not "crap"....and it doesn't do much to show good character on your part when you end up responding with what amounts to a childish name calling temper tamtrum every time I don't concede a point you're trying to make.

    As for you McCool, I'm surprised you even showed your face again after getting caught for that gutter stunt you pulled last night by jacking my name and talking to yourself.

    I take it back....I'm not surprised at all!

    I love the teacher like tone. Pompous ass. JUST LIKE KEITH and Al Gore. I see a pattern here.....

    I know. Isn't it odd how I WASN'T intimidated by your omnipotent wrath? Like i said, sometimes talking to myself is the smartest conversation available.

    So E.D. Hill, in good faith in trying to help the troops, makes an error and then corrects it. That's the depth of her fault, not much at all in my opinion.

    My problem with Olbermann is he's the king of fake outrage. He takes this story and twists it to fuel his continuous campaign against Fox. Tell me what good came of this? What did he accomplish? Anything for the troops? or just a buzz for him in trashing Fox? E.D. followed up her error by saying they would find an alternative plan. So what is he doing besides finding fault.

    Some of you loons should check the back story when Olbermann does this.
    I used to watch his show and fall for his schemes. So many he described just didn't sound possible so I quit taking him at face value and delved deeper only to realize he only told the part of the story that would suit his needs. He's lost all credibility in my book and I feel like a fool for telling my friends to watch him.

    "sometimes talking to myself is the smartest converstion available."

    Not to mention the most dishonest!

    LOL You act like typing a goof post under your name, which I admitted to immediately was an unforgivable act of plagiarism of one of history's greatest prophets. namely you. get over yourself, it would probably help if you put the mirror down.

    "Have you had your fill of queen of Cecilia, Queen of Nasty?"

    The sad part is that she doesn't HAVE to act this nasty....she just chooses to do so.

    Some of you loons should check the back story when Olbermann does this.
    I used to watch his show and fall for his schemes. So many he described just didn't sound possible so I quit taking him at face value and delved deeper only to realize he only told the part of the story that would suit his needs. He's lost all credibility in my book and I feel like a fool for telling my friends to watch him.

    Thats how you obtain wisdom, learning from past mistakes.

    I'm all for getting off oil, but it wont happen overnight. We should be exploring everything, I read a newer company Nanosolar has cut the cost of producing photo cells to 1/3 of previous, making them competitive. Imagine every roof lined with these as well as a lot of vacant desert in the southwest. We could use it to power electric cars for most people. But until then drill and build more refineries. there will be a need for oil for ships, planes etc for the foreseeable future. God, i'm ranting like gore

    Tonight is lazy Friday at CD -looks like he's getting his material from his favorite fangirl site - Nov 28 KOEB/Tom Tomorrow.

    Guess NBC really is cutting the budget. They can't afford to go beyond the keyboard in front of them. Cuts down travel costs.

    "was an unforgivable act of plagiarism"

    Actually it was worse than plagiarism. It was also cowardly...because it proved you can't stand on your own two feet using your own name.

    And your continuing attacks on my character, rather than my arguments....illuminate your own lack of character....just as much as your 'I'd like to crap in Olbermann's dead corpse' posts do.

    And sorry you don't understand this, but the opinions I choose to express on this board are not "crap"....and it doesn't do much to show good character on your part when you end up responding with what amounts to a childish name calling temper tamtrum every time I don't concede a point you're trying to make.

    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 8:39 PM

    There's no temper involved whatsoever, Mike, Crap is crap and a sleazy and a dishonest accusation about our motive here is what it is--- sleazy and dishonest.

    Just like your saying that WPITW is satire then agreeing with Capon about the most heinous sort of motives for someone like E.D. Hill and others. That wasn't "satire" when Olbermann implied she was hiding behind false patriotism for a self-serving motive. It's an out and out sleazy and dishonest accusation.

    When I see sleazy and dishonest, I'll call it-- calmly and collectedly. And that's the only way one can characterize what you said about the motives here today too.

    If you need to go into a whine fest every time about how you're so mistreated and misunderstood here and how everyone in Miketown thinks you're the best thing since baby wipes, so be it.

    was an unforgivable act of plagiarism"

    Actually it was worse than plagiarism. It was also cowardly...because it proved you can't stand on your own two feet using your own name.

    And your continuing attacks on my character, rather than my arguments....illuminate your own lack of character....just as much as your 'I'd like to crap in Olbermann's dead corpse' posts do.

    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 8:59 PM

    OMG the hyperventilating JUST LIKE KEITH. Or it proves that, God help me, I might have been bored with the inane conversation of banging heads with an insufferable, pompous, arrogant boob with an unadmittedly narrow mind and a HUGE ego.

    Crapping in Keith's corpse is just plain funny.

    By the way genius, isn't dead corpse redundant?

    Jeffrey Dahmer didn't HAVE to kill people and eat them , he chose to do so.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 30, 2007 9:02 PM

    Speaking of Over the Top Hyperbole


    you're the best thing since baby wipes, so be it.

    and Cee, I have never heard THAT one before lol. What color do you think the sky is in Miketown?

    Tell me Cecelia, just how do you think people on your side constantly attacking anyone who DARES to like Keith Olbermann as "loons" does anything for civility on this blog?

    You people set the tone from the very beginning, by not just attacking KO, but by attacking those who have the nerve to like the man you obsess in disliking.

    How DARE we defend this fiend on OW! How DARE we point out that you're taking WPITW far too seriously? How DARE we insinuate that Countdown is a needed alternative to a proliferation of right wing opinion shows?

    Yet you demand that we do or say nothing your delicate sensitivities might perceive as condescending or arrogant....even after the table is set with THAT kind of a contentious beginning?

    And once again, you are misrepresenting my positions. I have not made a single mention of the E.D Hill comments...not one!

    I will NOW say this however. When I was an 18 year old Airman in Thailand in 1969, I can honestly say that no letter from a stranger addressed to 'occupant' would have done anything to help my moral.

    To me, the right's so called 'support' of the troops remind me of a severe ice storm we had in this area a few years ago. Power was out for the entire area for at least several days for some, .... and up to ten days for many others. Power crews were sent in from several other states...and suddenly THEY became everybody's 'heroes'. The were cheered and applauded everywhere they went...for as long as people needed power restored!

    How much applause do you think these same power crews are getting today?

    effrey Dahmer didn't HAVE to kill people and eat them , he chose to do so.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 30, 2007 9:02 PM

    I bow to your authority here. I'm sure you understand your soul-mate Dahmer, very well.

    "and insufferable, pompous, arrogant boob"

    &

    "By the way genius. Isn't dead corpse redundant?"

    I'm an "insufferable, pompous, arrogant boob" because you have no coherent counterpoints to my arguments and therefore you resent my making them.

    Next step...Turn to ad hominem personal attacks like a third grade child might do...or maybe just jack my name and to foster sterotypes.

    That is all obviously within your comfort zone....just as making moronic jokes about desecrating someone's dead body is.

    To me, the right's so called 'support' of the troops remind me of a severe ice storm we had in this area a few years ago. Power was out for the entire area for at least several days for some, .... and up to ten days for many others. Power crews were sent in from several other states...and suddenly THEY became everybody's 'heroes'. The were cheered and applauded everywhere they went...for as long as people needed power restored!

    How much applause do you think these same power crews are getting today?

    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 9:24 PM


    Mike, I don't have delicate sensibilities. You can say anything you want about my motives, and I'll give it right back to you in spades...

    You're the one who invariably descends into a whine about how you're mistreated by the bad people and all the good people think you're wonderful.

    Well, let's just see how "nice" you are. The above little screed is they typical sort of "stuff" you pull here... Contrast THAT wiith someone calling you a loon about how you feel about Keith Olbermann.

    Oh, you're a nice guy, Mike. Just like WDYT. It's a pity we're not grateful to have you both here telling us how little we really care about anyone else in the world and how we are solely driven by ideology. It's such a pity we don't smile and thank you for it, isn't it...

    Sad, indeed, but you're just going to have to keep experiencing that scenario of endless gratitude and admiration in the windmills of your mind...

    Nothing insightful here. Just wanted to put in writing what a repugnant, egotistical, obnoxious, dickwad this f-ing idiot is. Every time I switch him on he's dissin' on O'reilly by doing that retarded sounding imitation. SOMEONE over at MSDNC must realize that the dufus spends WAAYYYYY too much time on him. Don't they realize the irony of the fact that the publicity they give O'reilly every night probably contributes to the overall ass-kicking that olbypuss gets handed to him on this nightly basis.

    There, I feel better already.

    How DARE we defend this fiend on OW! How DARE we point out that you're taking WPITW far too seriously? How DARE we insinuate that Countdown is a needed alternative to a proliferation of right wing opinion shows?

    GIVE ME A BREAK. Its the rest of TV land VS FOXNEWS. Maybe they dont get the other networks or CNN in Miketown - props to Cee

    Yet you demand that we do or say nothing your delicate sensitivities might perceive as condescending or arrogant....even after the table is set with THAT kind of a contentious beginning?

    delicate sensitivities? Is this Bizarro world?


    To me, the right's so called 'support' of the troops remind me of a severe ice storm we had in this area a few years ago. Power was out for the entire area for at least several days for some, .... and up to ten days for many others. Power crews were sent in from several other states...and suddenly THEY became everybody's 'heroes'. The were cheered and applauded everywhere they went...for as long as people needed power restored!

    How much applause do you think these same power crews are getting today?

    AH, the wise and weathered cynic. Have you heard of human nature. I had an ice storm here too, god forbid If you and I live in the same area. But for that moment, those linesmen were heroes returning us from the 1800s after more than a week. Life goes on, nothing is static. People who served in WWII and those who died in 9/11 are STILL looked at as heroes. Vietnam not so much, and whos fault is that? People like Olbermann who decided it was much wiser to take the contrarian view for god knows whatever reason. Just like Keith is doing to today's soldiers. People do need the media to be informed about the world and they will form their veiws based on whatever media information is available. So instead of looking to point the finger at us closed minded heathens why dont you look at the TV for the reasons there is so much less hero worship these days, specifially assholes like Olbermann whom you seem to take pleasure in defending and I'm not sure if you actually agree with him or you just view it as some esoteric challenge to you tremendous intellect

    ad hominem personal attacks

    YES!! he said it again!!

    > Every time I switch him on he's dissin' on O'reilly by doing that retarded sounding imitation. SOMEONE over at MSDNC must realize that the dufus spends WAAYYYYY too much time on him.

    Exactly. He says he's "hitting up" in doing ths but he's really very petty and desperate.

    Next he's trashing Liz Claman by saying NBC dropped HER. I believe she could have resigned if she wanted to but instead jumped to Fox.

    Ewww... he gets off in doing double entendres here. Really creepy old man...double ewww...double creepy


    Why does Olby want to talk about his own penis??? Did Murrow do that? Was that on an episode of "See It Now" that no one ever talks about?

    Nothing insightful here. Just wanted to put in writing what a repugnant, egotistical, obnoxious, dickwad this f-ing idiot is. Every time I switch him on he's dissin' on O'reilly by doing that retarded sounding imitation. SOMEONE over at MSDNC must realize that the dufus spends WAAYYYYY too much time on him. Don't they realize the irony of the fact that the publicity they give O'reilly every night probably contributes to the overall ass-kicking that olbypuss gets handed to him on this nightly basis.

    There, I feel better already.

    Posted by: eddie b at November 30, 2007 9:37 PM

    That was beautiful man

    How much applause do you think these same power crews are getting today?

    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 9:24 PM

    This comment, here, shows what an unappreciative prick you really are.

    Cecelia, contrary to your repeated assertions to the contrary, I don't really give a happy damn whether you are grateful for my presence here or not. Apparently you see yourself as a charter member on this blog and me as an unwelcome guest. Now THAT is arrogance!

    My screeds about your collective incivility is anything but a 'whine' either...it's an observation. Hint: it's NOT a compliment!

    I've experienced the pattern at least ten times now. YOU are always the one to break down and use the words moron, stupid, sleazy, etc., whatever....FIRST! As far as I'm concerned, that is nothing other than a sign of frustration because you aren't getting your way again.

    I have tried to maintain civility with you, but apparently that isn't what you want...but that's not MY problem.

    Mike, whos to blame for OUR lack of communication(my complete subjugation to your views)?

    I never see this kind of nastiness in the REAL world, and I really am curious just what it is that make people like you tick?

    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 8:20 PM

    Hiding behind his keyboard is what makes him 'tick.'

    "This comment, here, shows what an unappreciative prick you really are."

    And your comment shows you don't even understand what you read.

    But what else is new?

    Hey Jeff, you're quite the critic of name changing and name jacking.

    Why the silence over your buddy McCool's misdeeds just last night?

    Mike,

    I don't see you as an unwelcomed guest.

    I'm not the host here.

    What I do see you as is someone who seems to expect that he can come to a blogboard critiquing Keith Olbermann and not be called an Olbyloon.

    I see you as a guy who can casually make serious insinuations about political opponents and then expect us not to mind or to even realize that you just told us we don't care the country or anything else.

    Well, you're wrong, Mister. Stop whining and get over it.

    Just because you don't include the word "moron" in a sentence does not mean you've been anything approaching "civil" and anything less than insulting.

    "YES!! He said it again!!"

    It's very informative that you take so much pride in your lack of knowledge about the meaning of common and appropriate words in the English Language.

    "AD HOMINEM": Attacking the person instead of their argument.

    "This comment, here, shows what an unappreciative prick you really are."

    And your comment shows you don't even understand what you read.

    But what else is new?

    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 10:01 PM


    I understood it perfectly well. You were the ONE that didn't cheer for the power co.

    McCool admitted what he did, that's the difference between you, patsy, why and philby. You clowns denied and denied and denied. Then when you were all nailed you cryed "so what!"

    "What I do see you is someone who seems to think he can come to a blogboard critiquing Keith Olbermann and not be called an olbyloon.".....Well, Excuuussse me if I reject the premise that name calling among those that simply disagree about a commentator is a requirement in the world of blogboard critiquing.

    "I see you as a guy who can make serious insinuations about political opponants and then expect us to not mind or even notice you just told us we don't care the country or anything else."....THIS comment directed at someone who has been called a "coward" on this blog at least ten time, a "traitor" at least 20 times, and "un-American" at least 100 times....for nothing other than my opposition to the Iraq occupation.

    What I EXPECT is a reasonable argument as to why I am wrong....not a name calling rant!

    I NEVER questioned anyone's patriotism first....and I only did it after having mine questioned in order to show that those monikers can go BOTH ways.

    "I understood it perfectly well"....No you didn't! As usual, you missed the entire point.

    "You were the ONE who didn't cheer for the power Co"....All I was doing was pointing out how we idealize and 'support' those who are 'saving' us during a crisis...but after it is over, they become mere mortals again, because we no longer need them.

    "YES!! He said it again!!"

    It's very informative that you take so much pride in your lack of knowledge about the meaning of common and appropriate words in the English Language.

    "AD HOMINEM": Attacking the person instead of their argument.

    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 10:09 PM

    I understand the phrase MORON. I just take sowm twisted pleasure every time you say it. Its like your pompous catch phrase

    What I EXPECT is a reasonable argument as to why I am wrong....not a name calling rant!

    Reasonable by your standards is UNreasonable. Like playing charades witha blind man

    I NEVER questioned anyone's patriotism first....and I only did it after having mine questioned in order to show that those monikers can go BOTH ways.

    Ever the liberal martyr...what a cartoon.

    "You clowns denied and denied and denied"....I don't speak for them but what I did with YOU is deny that you ever got it right.

    For a while there, you claimed every new 'liberal' poster on this blog was me....and you were wrong every time.

    MIKE, you waxed eloquent in your contention that Cecelia might be the mother lode of incivility:

    "I've experienced the pattern at least ten times now. YOU are always the one to break down and use the words moron, stupid, sleazy, etc., whatever....FIRST! As far as I'm concerned, that is nothing other than a sign of frustration because you aren't getting your way again.

    I have tried to maintain civility with you, but apparently that isn't what you want...but that's not MY problem.
    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 9:55 PM"

    I make a solemn promise that I will never use the nastiness that you have been subjected to from Cecelia.

    I will only use the rare and justifiably provoked nastiness from your side of the aisle with the mere change of names. I will indicate this by surrounding the rare and justified nastiness in quotes and putting the minor change sans quotes.

    "Someone please shoot this treasonous traitor," MIKE.

    "That's soooooo cold," MIKE "DUMBFUCK!"

    MIKE, "are you completely nuts?" I'm so sorry. This can not possibly count as incivility because you said it to someone else. I'll try to watch that in the future.

    "And you idiots" and MIKE, "are too stupid to see it."

    I feel so much better for having had a civil comment to make to MIKE.

    Grammie

    "I understand the phrase MORON"

    It sounds more like you're basking in your own ignorance.

    And by the way...you just did it again!

    DUMBSHIT! I mean Bovine!

    I'm still waiting for you to grow a FUCKING ovary and post your lists of AAP posting "under some 40 other names"

    Obviously, you couldn't back up your paranoid claims. You even brought Johnny BU$HWIPE down to your level.

    And here is good ol' Patsy, showing you stupid shits, that means you BovineQueen and Johnny BU$HWIPE, that you idiots were attributing some else's posts to your humble journalist.

    So again, DUMBSHIT! I mean Bovine! post the fucking logs where your humble journalist was "debunked"

    Right after you grow a FUCKING OVARY!

    Posted by: Average American Patriot at November 30, 2007 10:37 PM

    HEY! Mike is definitely going to frown upon this display!

    Nothing surprising here really. His audience would never write letters thanking the troops for their service and would much rather they all be killed so its not like this is anything new. I am surprised people even find this shocking anymore.

    By the way can one of you tell me how the war in Iraq has hurt you? Be specific, financially or physically. Don't be vague I want to know how its hurt you personally. I don't think one of you can tell me honestly that it even affects you unless your in the military and in that case your most likely proud to protect your country, I know I would be. By the way don't say its "taken away your rights" unless you can point specifically to something. Don't forget those planes when you speak.

    Thanks Patsy

    The term "Thanks Patsy" is generic for whoever scratches around here and leaves all his chicken crap. It may be important to some that we all admire his particular chicken crap and not roll him in with the other chicken crap but not to me.

    Grammie

    Thanks Patsy

    The term "Thanks Patsy" is generic for whoever scratches around here and leaves all his chicken crap. It may be important to some that we all admire his particular chicken crap and not roll him in with the other chicken crap but not to me.

    Grammie

    Sorry Janet, I said "are you completely nuts" after you revived a dead conversation for at least the tenth time after I had answered your question at least nine times.

    So tell me with a straight face that saying "are you completely nuts" is equivalent to "traitor', "moron", "un-American", "coward", or any other such commetn that I am reasonably confident the perpetrator would never actually say to my face?

    I understand the phrase MORON"

    It sounds more like you're basking in your own ignorance.

    And by the way...you just did it again!

    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 10:41 PM

    Man, i gotta stop letting this guy get the best of me. He just hovers above us, unassailable, like , like, like a MORON, dammit I did it again! LIBERAL CHEESE EATING SURRENDER MONKEY!! dammit can't stop...need help...Our Mike who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come....

    "You clowns denied and denied and denied"....I don't speak for them but what I did with YOU is deny that you ever got it right.

    For a while there, you claimed every new 'liberal' poster on this blog was me....and you were wrong every time.

    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 10:36 PM


    Wrong and wrong.

    Nothing surprising here really. His audience would never write letters thanking the troops for their service and would much rather they all be killed so its not like this is anything new. I am surprised people even find this shocking anymore.

    By the way can one of you tell me how the war in Iraq has hurt you? Be specific, financially or physically. Don't be vague I want to know how its hurt you personally. I don't think one of you can tell me honestly that it even affects you unless your in the military and in that case your most likely proud to protect your country, I know I would be. By the way don't say its "taken away your rights" unless you can point specifically to something. Don't forget those planes when you speak.

    Posted by: Typical at November 30, 2007 10:43 PM

    Well said

    See above MIKE.

    Grammie

    this ought to be enough to make you come chasing after me or ignore me.

    Either way, I own you bitch.


    Posted by: McColdTurd, blow me! at November 30, 2007 10:48 PM

    yeah, way to protect the Queen termite Mike. all right i forgot you name but lets have your best shot , fill me with your brand of wisdom here, i need a good laugh. Who's your hero today? Jimmy Carter?

    "By he way can one of you tell me how the war in Iraq has hurt you."

    This is the kind of question I can't possibly answer without stating categorically that I actually do care about the American troops who are dead and maimed, .... and implying that the person who could ask such a question doesn't.

    And Cecelia can't have me doing that!

    "By he way can one of you tell me how the war in Iraq has hurt you."

    This is the kind of question I can't possibly answer without stating categorically that I actually do care about the American troops who are dead and maimed, .... and implying that the person who could ask such a question doesn't.

    And Cecelia can't have me doing that!

    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 10:54 PM

    But I don't care about the thousands of Americans that will therefore not be killed by fighting this war in Iraq now instead of in Europe or America in 10 years when Iran and maybe some otehr crazy bastards have nukes.
    sincerely,
    Mikes inner thoughts

    Thanks Patsy

    The term "Thanks Patsy" is generic for whoever scratches around here and leaves all his chicken crap. It may be important to some that we all admire his particular chicken crap and not roll him in with the other chicken crap but not to me.

    Stand still dammit. I'm trying to aim my brain gun at you

    McCool, or whoever you are: That you ACTUALLY believe that this occupation of Iraq is somehow preventing the apocalypse scenario you just detailed is what amazes me.

    I believe it has made such a scenario that much more likely, and has diminished our ability to respond if it does.

    I'll let Israel nuke Iran in retaliation.

    Mike, the whole pacifism/isolationism thing didn't work in the 30s and wont work today. Like it or not, the US is the policeman of the world. Who else is capable of doing it and who else has the moral vision to do it fairly? We need to be out there, this world would descend into a dark chaos without the US taking an active role in the world. and endless talking like the EU and UN doesn't cut it Mike.

    McCool, or whoever you are: That you ACTUALLY believe that this occupation of Iraq is somehow preventing the apocalypse scenario you just detailed is what amazes me.

    I believe it has made such a scenario that much more likely, and has diminished our ability to respond if it does.


    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 11:04 PM

    OH YOU BELIEVE? Well then, let me change my views and purge every piece of history and politics I've learned up until this day and start from scratch. Do I have to shave my head now?

    "this world would descend into a dark chaos without the US taking an active role in the world"

    You REALLY believe that, don't you?

    Fascinating!

    That sounds like grandeous illusion of your own importance applied on a nationalistic scale.

    At least you've stopped name calling...for the moment.

    MIKE, this is an Ad Hominem attack of the first rank.

    Absolutely no connection to anything and pure personal smear.

    Grammie

    "Well then, let me change my views and purge every piece of politics and history I've learned until this day and start from scratch."

    Good idea!

    And stay aways from those Neocon schools this time!

    And by all means, cancel that subscription to The Weekly Standard!

    MIKE, this is an Ad Hominem attack of the first rank.

    Absolutely no connection to anything and pure personal smear.

    Grammie

    PS forgot to copy and paste. Sorry.

    "Go easy on Mrs. Hawkins, Mike. She tried to kick a puppy yesterday and missed. It has put her in a most foul disposition.
    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at November 29, 2007 9:19 AM

    You should see her behavior at the Klan meetings she attends with Cecilia.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at November 30, 2007 8:52 PM"

    See McCool...Janet's using THAT silly word too!

    "this world would descend into a dark chaos without the US taking an active role in the world"

    You REALLY believe that, don't you?

    Fascinating!

    That sounds like grandeous illusion of your own importance applied on a nationalistic scale.

    At least you've stopped name calling...for the moment.

    Posted by: Mike at November 30, 2007 11:11 PM

    Now thats calling the kettle black.
    Mike, I'm glad YOU believe it was the wrong thing to do but rational people tend to err on the side of caution. The fatal error in your line of thinking is that these are reasonable people who want to live life, maybe own an antique store and sit around drinking triple grand mocha frappacinos discussing what an idiot Bush was. These people want one of 3 things. you to convert to Islam, you to live in subjugation, or you dead. too many people like to play the moral equivalency game with this "religion" , its a religion of peace. bullshit, Their prophet was a twisted angry pedophile ( I wont insert any Mike comments here, see I'm getting better) This isnt the Soviet Union, tehse are soem twisted people who WANT TO DIE because their religion glorifies it, tells them yeah this life is a shithole but 72 virgins await. Tyrants over there exploit this and turn a blind eye to asshole clerics preaching, indoctrinating kids with this shit. The tyrants ignore this as long as their anger is directed at someone other than their govt., namely Israel and THE GREAT SATAN. You think they want to kill us giving us that name Mike? Does any of this activate that survival instinct? or has teh ACLU and CAIR or some other fifth column organization desensitized you that you feel nothing and therefore are oblivious to your fate/. frankly I'd prefer to talk about Keith's decomposing body.

    "the fatal error in your line of thinking is that these are reasonable people want to live life........"

    No. YOUR fatal line of thinking is that i don't understand that these aren't reasonable people. Trust me....I do.

    My reasonable line of thinking is that it doesn't matter what these people "want". The fact is that they are totally incapable of getting what they "want". Most of them are still living in the 19th century.

    Pushing fear is all they have...and yet we ALLOW them to do this to us. They must be amazed at how much power they have been able to weld against us using nothing more than irrational fear....and how we've helped them do it every step of the way.

    There are bears in the woods that "want" to eat your ass....does that mean we have to live in abject fear of bears taking over the world?

    I have to check out now.

    The sad part is I actually enjoy this...I must be sick!

    And as far as your own moral equivalency. you never answered me before, How is liberating 30 million people a bad thing? Is it bad because they are not Americans and not worthy as human beings? You act like anyone who supports this war is a blood thirsty psycho. maybe there are grander ideas outside the antique shop. Maybe it IS a good idea to promote democracy in the world. Is it easy, no, these people havent had it in 3000 years, impatient 30 second attention spans hyperventilating people like Keith don't seem to understand that. Maybe giving these people a chance at a better life with the chance that maybe it might spread around the region is the right thing to do. and maybe just ignoring these people, however easy and shortsighted it would be, is NOT the right thing to do. again, whos going to do it, the EU , the UN, they cant even stop the ethnic cleansing in Sudan. I am so sick of America bashers acting like this is the worst country in the world, BUSH is evil, even Hitler liek, bent on world domination, some morons believe this, some just say it because they they think it makes them look oh so avant garde. I actually feel sorry for the first group but i despise the latter.

    There are bears in the woods that "want" to eat your ass....does that mean we have to live in abject fear of bears taking over the world?
    Colbert does!

    Pushing fear is all they have...and yet we ALLOW them to do this to us. They must be amazed at how much power they have been able to weld against us using nothing more than irrational fear.
    yep, just that and the nuke they finally get their hands on because the UN and EU are impotent

    Let's test McColdTurd for fear of Mexicans.

    Say, McCoolTurd, do you every night check under your bed for muslims, mexicans, or the boogie Dems?

    Posted by: Brave McColdTurd is afraid of Islamic Funny-Mentalists at November 30, 2007 11:31 PM

    I don't know,let me ask your mom.....oh she can't talk right now, her mouth is full

    what fucking cult do you attend?

    Are you in touch with Pastor DUMBFUCK! I mean Phallouise?

    "Maybe it IS a good idea to promote democracy in the world. Is it easy, no, these people havent had it in 3000 years"

    You mean after Raygun propped up and armed both Saddam and Osama?

    Why do you hate Ronald Raygun, McColdTurd?

    Posted by: Beotch! I mean McColdTurd at November 30, 2007 11:43 PM

    It would actually be funny to watch you live under sharia law, getting caned because you wont wear a belt and keep showing your underwear while hanging out with the other skater dudes outside the middle school. Just go roll another joint and wish Jon Stewart was running the world.

    Thanks Patsy

    The term "Thanks Patsy" is generic for whoever scratches around here and leaves all his chicken crap. It may be important to some that we all admire his particular chicken crap and not roll him in with the other chicken crap but not to me.

    Grammie

    Thanks Patsy

    The term "Thanks Patsy" is generic for whoever scratches around here and leaves all his chicken crap. It may be important to some that we all admire his particular chicken crap and not roll him in with the other chicken crap but not to me.

    Grammie

    She knows chickenshit when she sees it...

    Mike, the Worst Person In the World is the ONLY segment I watch on Olbermann's far too long diatribe. I tape the crap, and fast forward to WPITW, have my utterly predictable chuckle and delete the rest.

    Each time I ask myself: has this clown ever looked in the mirror???

    Thanks Patsy

    The term "Thanks Patsy" is generic for whoever scratches around here and leaves all his chicken crap. It may be important to some that we all admire his particular chicken crap and not roll him in with the other chicken crap but not to me.

    Grammie

    Just go roll another joint and wish Jon Stewart was running the world.

    Posted by: McCool at November 30, 2007 11:48 PM


    Good thought sir! Though I do keep away from the vellocets meself. Jon Stewart does have the mozggies to improve this country.He could fix what these gloopy bratchny prestoopnicks in this administration have wrought.

    Good thought sir! Though I do keep away from the vellocets meself. Jon Stewart does have the mozggies to improve this country.He could fix what these gloopy bratchny in this administration have wrought.

    Posted by: Trent the Marxist at December 2, 2007 2:41 AM


    A Clockwork Red...


    A Clockwork Red...


    Posted by: Cecelia at December 2, 2007 4:35 AM


    Despite Idealogical differences, you know your good pop culture.

    Singing in the rain (whack potty mouth commenter who debases all things holy) just singing in the rain (whack potty mouth commenter) . . .

    when someone comes along and shows them basic flaws in their unmovable dogmas.

    LOL!

    A Clockwork Red...


    Posted by: Cecelia at December 2, 2007 4:35 AM


    Wasn't it 'orange?'

    "Clockwork Red" is the name of a painting by
    Rolf van Gelder, a painter of modern art.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at December 2, 2007 12:43 PM


    What would you do w/out Google and the cut and paste function, 'why?'

    Our local retard thinks everyone is as uneducated as he !
    The world must be a very lonely place for you.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at December 2, 2007 5:28 PM


    Spolbyloon debating tactics-101.

    "Wasn't it 'orange?'
    Posted by: at December 2, 2007 10:57 AM"

    Yes, both the book and movie. If you follow the sequence it should become clear what both Trent the MARXIST and Cecelia were talking about.

    Trent used some of the vocabulary from A Clockwork Orange.

    Cecelia pulled a representative sentence and said "A Clockwork Red..."

    Trent the MARXIST then said to Cecelia:

    "Despite Idealogical differences, you know your good pop culture.
    Posted by: Trent the Marxist at December 2, 2007 5:20 AM"

    Ask a reasonable question and our "classically conditioned" OW loons form a pack and foam at the mouth, so to speak.

    Grammie

    Spolbyloon debating tactics-101.
    Posted by: royal king at December 2, 2007 6:51 PM

    Wrong and wrong.
    Posted by: royal king at November 30, 2007 10:50 PM

    A classic Spolbyloon 'out of context' post. Thanks, 'why!' Desperation, indeed.

    for nothing.

    "A clockwork orange" is a book/movie that depicts an extreme situation of classical conditioning.

    Examples:

    Posts by anyone using "$" instead of "s" sends you bitches into fits.

    Moron paranoid Hag-zilla using "Thanks Patsy" then followed by other inane BU$HWIPES! with "Thanks Patsy," even when "Patsy" didn't post in the first place.

    Clockwork BU$HWIPES, indeed.

    Moron paranoid Hag-zilla using "Thanks Patsy" then followed by other inane BU$HWIPES! with "Thanks Patsy," even when "Patsy" didn't post in the first place.


    Any proofpatsy didn't make said posts? Nope. Next?

    Nope.

    Even Johnny BU$HWIPE has repeated the basic tenet, you BU$HWIPES make an accusation then you prove it.

    In your case, Bovine, first you have to grow an ovary, then post your lists where AAP was posting under some "40 other names"

    Either you grow an ovary or you issue apologies.
    I'm holding my breath, Bovine!

    Wow! I just downoaded the clip where Keith spoke with Naomi Klein. Finally, an alternative to the mainstream think tanks. I really need to get her new book. No Logo was an excellent piece of work, i'm sure The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism will be just as amazing.

    Thank god for Keith!

    What would you do w/out Google and the cut and paste function, 'why?'

    Posted by: royal king at December 2, 2007 2:15 PM

    Why do you hate "the google" royal king?

    I want to thank several of our posters for their considerable contributions last week, which might be summarized as follows:

    "Sodomy."
    - Cee

    "Moo."
    - Johnnie-Jeff known to some as RK.

    "Thanks, Patsy."
    - Mrs. Hawkins.

    We couldn't have finisihed such a fine week without you.

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at December 3, 2007 12:07 AM

    WHAT THE HELL? How come I don't rate? You coprophiliac moron!

    I have too much respect for you.

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at December 3, 2007 11:44 AM

    LOL Now I know thats a lie!!

    http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2007/11/28/hill-apologizes-for-accidentally-spreading-email-hoax/

    Yeah so you're comparing two different things rather dishonestly.

    E.B. Hill STARTED this because she was caught by an e-mail hoax. In my opinion that should have earned her a best persons spot on Countdown AND, but it should at least demand a retraction from your site.

    > it should at least demand a retraction from your site.

    What are we supposed to retract? We posted video clips! Keith Oralmann compares thanking injured troops to mere "flag waving". He said it, we didn't. What are we supposed to retract?

    I passed through FFW this morning, and one of the nitwits was on the street asking people where Jesus was borb. I think he actually knew, and he was hoping to catch masses of Americans who did not. Big surprise. Everyone (I saw) got it correct.

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at December 9, 2007 11:42 PM


    Then Capon tried to show them all up by adding that Christ's birthplace was a former steel town in Pennsylvania.

    > nitwits was on the street asking people where Jesus was borb. I think he actually knew, and he was hoping to catch masses of Americans who did not.

    Really? You seem to be ignorant of the news story that led to the segment:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/08/nxmas108.xml

    > Geez, I must need to go to bed.

    Yeah, and read up on the news of the day before you retire.

    Well now that I've educated you, at least now you know what you're talking about, even if what you are saying makes zero sense.

    > JOhnny 2Bits actually had the audacity to say that his political views are private...after ( seriously) suggesting that Bush should be the next face on Mt Rushmore.

    You point out where I made any such suggestion, or be exposed again as a flagrant liar. How about it, WDYT? Care to dig the hole deeper, liar?

    Point to my words, liar. Now a second liar chimes in and says I "literally own" this blog. Two liars for the price of one. And both worthless.

    Waiting for you to prove you're not a liar, WDYT. Point to my words, liar.

    Oh, looky. "why" packin' water for patsy. Too bad there's a hole in the bottom of their bucket!
    TDF!!!(*)-----

    > Better yet. Delete these embarrassing posts.

    Ooh, running scared are we? First you claim I "literally own" this blog (an obvious lie--all you have to do is look up the registration) and all of a sudden you want your post removed? I don't blame you.

    > You had a picture of Bush as one of the faces on Mt Rushmore...Do you have amnesia?

    I never had any such picture. You are a liar. Point to my words where I suggested any such thing, liar.

    > I'm out of here...

    Translation: WDYT has been exposed as a flagrant liar and is running away to his "real job". (i.e. "Do you want fries with that?")

    Hey liar, you can be "out of here" permanently for all anyone cares. Why should anyone bother debating with a proven liar?

    I'm out of here...I have a real job, unlike yourself,,,where you could stay up all night denying the obvious !
    Kisses, Johnny 2 Bits.

    Smmoooooch !

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at December 11, 2007 1:25 AM

    He can't prove it. :D

    > And read what I told, directly, to the genius who suggested such idiocy.

    Why do I give a frack about what you said to some guy on some thread? Am I your little personal research assistant? I'm supposed to find some thread where you said something to someone? Buzz off, Patsy. Either that, or expound further on how I "literally own this blog". Liar.

    Oh boy...another cloacae pulled notion from Mr. blank-FLUCKER....

    deary....Mr. Giuliani is still leading in most primary states he is playing in and nationally is doing well....The relgious bigots you hate, like me, have more than enough patience to give anyone seeking the party's nomination a fair shake....and I am sure Reagan, like Giuliani now, would get his fair shot and if he played it right, deservidely get the party's nomination.

    Republicans, unlike democrats, do not have litmus tests for such demogogic issues.....Please show me a nationally powerful pro-life democrat, Mr. lay minister....

    one that respects the embryo as life like Christ preached.....

    and I'll give you the point. Is there one?

    Once again you are wrong.....BTW, I voted for Joe Liebermann (pro-choice DEM!) when I lived in Connecticut for a short time and voted for John McCain in the 2000 nomination game....

    Us religious right folk can think and love people different from what you think, dear one.....Try leaving your prejudices on someother blog. Oh, and vet your own leftist choices for President....you will see they all checked the boxes correctly.

    Anyother tripe you want to try to pass off as "gospel" (poor choice I know), Mr. lay minister?

    Lord knows, I hate to defend the intemperate and bitchy Mr. Dollar, but I never heard him argue for putting Bush on Mt. Rushmore. Mr. Cox did.

    posted by Mrs. Philby

    Thanks, philby, for debunking your cohorts, why and patsy.

    JOhnny 2Bits actually had the audacity to say that his political views are private...after ( seriously) suggesting that Bush should be the next face on Mt Rushmore.

    Johnny 2Bits' comedy routines are what we need now that the writers' strike lingers on .

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at December 10, 2007 9:21 PM

    But heck, maybe you two Internets sluts, I mean sleuths, could actually get something right once in a while and find the FUGGING THREAD.

    Hint: It was a monumental turd written by... DRUM ROLL, PLEASE...

    Posted by: Johnny BU$HWIPE, are you also BovineQueen? at December 11, 2007 1:48 AM


    Funny, I see no mention of Bob Cox, like patsy is claiming.

    Patsy, your post proves you wrong. Thanks, patzilla!

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