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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    January 18, 2008
    How Keith Olbermann Became Bathtub Boy: The Official Origin Story

    Yesterday was the 10th anniversary of one of the biggest stories of recent years: Monica Lewinsky. John Gibson used the occasion to recall how cable news covered the events, and in doing so detailed again how the discredited baseball card collector came to be known as "Bathtub Boy". This is the definitive, official OlbyWatch origin story for Keith "Bathtub Boy" Oralmann:


    Posted by johnny dollar | Permalink | Comments (132) | | View blog reactions

    132 Comments

    That's It Gibson!

    Not Only Will Dopey make you Worst Person!

    I bet he'll even call you 'Double Bubble Bathtub Head'!

    Just be glad you don't work at MSNBC, You see what happen to Matthews for saying stuff about Keith's boss!

    Anon,

    You do not SEEM like a total dope so I have to wonder why you imagine that taking the time to publish comments to the effect that you do not think this site should exist or that people should publish on it or read it is worthwhile?

    By your criteria (in the above comment), there should be no blogging (or even news reporting) on any topic that is not of the most grave and threatening nature. So, that means no sports reporting, entertainment news, gossip, no human interest stories, etc.

    Can't you just enjoy the fun of an unabashedly tasteless and pointless web site? Isn't there a certain zen-like quality to a corner of the world which revolves solely around the Being-ness of Keith Olbermann?

    It's Friday. Lighten up!


    Holy Crap Batman, Keith Olbermann has written another Daily Kos entry apologizing for having on Lawrence O'Donnell:

    Lawrence O'Donnell
    by Keith Olbermann
    Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 11:00:01 AM PST

    Forgive the fairly minor focus here but I spot at least three diaries on his appearance on Countdown last night to discuss Obama, Reagan, and Edwards.

    Those of you complaining about it are right.

    Keith Olbermann's diary :: ::
    His HuffPo piece was news to me.

    Shouldn't have been, obviously, but it was.

    I don't read every blog, nor everything written by my guests. I often don't know until an hour beforehand who will be a guest on a given show (if it matters to you, these scheduling nightmares tend to come in waves for some reason, and last night was a Nor'easter). Also, to announce, on-air, each guest's preferences, prejudices, shillings and shiv jobs, would reduce the rest of the show to "Good Evening. Call Me Ishmael. My Boat Sank. The End. Good Night." And Lawrence O'Donnell's insight is almost always perceptive, relevant, and enlightened.

    But even with these caveats, the point about this appearance, especially in the wake of such a freshly-written piece, is well-taken and I'm very sorry.

    It will be addressed tonight on the show.

    Thanks.

    It gets even better! In the comment section of the same blog entry, Keith Olbermann ways in on the Playboy letters. He even gives Olbermann Watch a compliment, I think:

    Playboy Letters (184+ / 0-)
    Normally I let this stuff go, but if you read said letters, you'll note they each hit one of the five or six talking points of an obscure website devoted to trying to annoy me (it's actually so bad it's good).

    Playboy got played.

    "If you're going through hell - Keep Going!" -- Winston Churchill

    by Keith Olbermann on Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 12:16:01 PM PST

    Sorry, I forgot to post the link before:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/18/135219/103/392/438962

    Keith Olbermann's diary :: ::
    "His HuffPo piece was news to me."

    Isn't that the problem Keith?

    I also find it extremely amusing when people get all obsessed about names and spend hours playing the name game.

    The psychology is fascinating.

    The political discussions are sometimes very good, too.

    It's a pleasant experience even if I usually play the dour adult.

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at January 18, 2008 5:31 PM

    On the other side of the coin, it is also fascinating and amusing watching people change names on a regular basis for no apparent reason except for trying to distance themselves from a comment they aren't so proud of. Just a theory.

    These Kos Komments are just too funny...600+ and counting. I think he just found out he really really likes fawning comments. Read on and enjoy:

    He is rather good looking
    I'd go straight for him any day.
    by dotdot on Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 11:42:01 AM PST


    If Keith were merely half as good-looking as he is, he'd still be gorgeous the moment he opened his mouth to show his wit... 'wit' in the Renaissance sense of intelligence, analytical ability, powers of observation....

    I'm SUCH a sucker for intelligent men with a sense of humor who can successfully and pointedly satirize things the way Keith can when he takes off on Georgie, Dickie, and the other misanthropic miscreants in the administration (like Rummy when he was there, etc.). Even if Keith were only marginally good-looking, I'd still think he was handsome because of his intellect.

    Keith's stunning good looks are emphasized when he wears pink/peach shirts and ties because he has beautiful eyes and those colors bring out his eyes... but when he speaks his intelligence is obvious, and someone like me who adores intellect above physical good looks just goes weak in the knees...! His mea culpas today indicate a humbleness that one doesn't expect from someone in a business where ego is supreme, so that makes him even more attractive.

    If I were some 20-30 years younger.... ;-)

    (¯`*._(¯`*._(-IMPEACH-)_.*´¯)_.*´¯)

    by NonnyO on Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 01:12:53 PM PST

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/18/135219/103/392/438962

    Wow! We "played" Playboy!

    Keep those cards and letters going out to them, folks!

    Evidently, Playboy thought we were REAL people!

    Keith knows that there's no way the public would mind a comparison of a popular cable news channel to Al qaeda!

    That's our boy...

    Okay....next we'll try and make Chris Matthews recant!

    huh?... It's been done??...

    BTW-- What heresy did O'Donnell utter?

    He wrote a piece that said John Edwards will not win.

    Here's Lawrence O'Donnell's sin. Too bad he embarrassed Keith last night AND made sense, most folks like Reagan:

    John Edwards Is A Loser
    Posted January 11, 2008 | 09:01 AM (EST)

    "John Edwards is a loser. He has won exactly two elections in his life and lost 31. Only one of his wins and all of his losses were in presidential primaries and caucuses. He remains perfectly positioned to continue to lose with a Kucinich-like consistency. Nothing but egomania keeps Edwards in the race now. All presidential candidates are egomaniacs but some of them have party status worth preserving that forces them to drop out when they hit the wall. A loser like Edwards has no status or dignity to lose. Campaigning and losing is his life. So, he will continue his simple-minded, losing campaign and deny Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton the one-on-one contest they deserve."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lawrence-odonnell/john-edwards-is-a-loser_b_81045.html

    I often don't know until an hour beforehand who will be a guest on a given show

    -That's funny; we can guess with nearly 100% accuracy!

    (if it matters to you, these scheduling nightmares tend to come in waves for some reason,

    Maybe because Wolfie, Rachel, the Pundit et all vacation together?

    The funny thing was, our Clinton suck-up whore Mr. Olbermann got himself so worked up in a lather in his opening spiel, he couldn't wait to slam Obama on his Reagan comments. It was funny to see O'Donnell shoot him down.

    Oh, those KosKids, man, do they have Olbermann's nuts in a squeeze. He seems to like it though from the recent entries he's made there.

    Isn't there a certain zen-like quality to a corner of the world which revolves solely around the Being-ness of Keith Olbermann?

    Posted by: Robert Cox at January 18, 2008 5:12 PM

    I'm thinking we've been way too hard on him, Bob.

    The poor guy has enough trouble trying to stave off the ire of his psychotic lefty fans.

    It was funny to see O'Donnell shoot him down.

    Posted by: wow at January 18, 2008 6:23 PM


    B I N G O... B I N G O... EVERYBODY SING!... :D

    Oh, those KosKids, man, do they have Olbermann's nuts in a squeeze. He seems to like it though from the recent entries he's made there.

    Posted by: wow at January 18, 2008 6:23 PM

    Where's that sports caster to ask Keith again if he's going to have to do an apology an appearance.... :D

    The poor guy has enough trouble trying to stave off the ire of his psychotic lefty fans.
    Posted by: Cecelia at January 18, 2008 6:24 PM

    He has 1137 days 5 hours 30 minutes to appease all!

    Sharon at 6:32

    He has 1137 days 5 hours 30 minutes to appease all!

    Posted by: at January 18, 2008 6:32 PM

    Oh, my god...he must feel like Anne Boleyn...

    Sharon at 6:32

    Posted by: Sharon at January 18, 2008 6:34 PM

    I loved the one at 6:21 PM!... :D

    Maybe he has an extremely large hour glass?

    Oops!

    "you'll note they each hit one of the five or six talking points"

    Yeah, those "talking points" called tenets of journalistic ethics and professionalism.

    Concepts like: fair and balanced reporting, checking sources, objective coverage of events, no personal attacks, allowing people to respond to allegations, sourcing material.

    Yep, those meaningless "talking points".

    Who needs them? "I'm Keith Olberamnn and I'm always right and everyone else can go f*** themselves."

    Besides an "emergency situation" is taking place. Bush is destroying the country and ethics and professionalism can be tossed aside. The country must be saved.

    Yeah, yeah, we know all your lines, Mr. Olbermann.

    Maybe he has an extremely large hour glass?

    Posted by: Sharon at January 18, 2008 6:39 PM

    And extremely surly and zealous flying Kos monkeys...

    Playboy Letters (184+ / 0-)
    Normally I let this stuff go, but if you read said letters, you'll note they each hit one of the five or six talking points of an obscure website devoted to trying to annoy me (it's actually so bad it's good).

    by Keith Olbermann on Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 12:16:01 PM PST

    HAHAHAHHAHAH..."normally I let this go..." HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH, since when has anything been "let go" by Mr. Obsession himself. Didn't he use to stalk his girlfriends, um, I mean, his IMAGINED girlfriends!

    "...an obscure website devoted to trying to annoy me (it's actually so bad it's good)."
    So at least we know he reads OW and seems to like it. tooooooo fuuuuunnnnny!

    Cecelia at 6:44

    lol
    I don't know how you managed to read my thoughts on that hour glass. I guess O'Reilly is the horrid green face . . .

    Besides an "emergency situation" is taking place. Bush is destroying the country and ethics and professionalism can be tossed aside. The country must be saved.

    Yeah, yeah, we know all your lines, Mr. Olbermann.

    Posted by: Steve at January 18, 2008 6:43 PM

    Well, you know it has been rather quiet around here and I think we now know the reason.

    All our zealots, who are so patriotic that they MUST force us to confront the error of our ways, have rushed to Huffington Post in order to combat the evil Lawrence O'Donnell-- the newest enemy now rending the very fabric of our nation...

    "...an obscure website devoted to trying to annoy me (it's actually so bad it's good)."
    So at least we know he reads OW and seems to like it. tooooooo fuuuuunnnnny!
    Posted by: wow at January 18, 2008 6:47 PM

    I wonder if he likes those screen shots?

    Sharon,

    Are you and your family feeling better?

    Cecelia,

    We are on the mend. The younger ones bounce back faster than the older :) Thanks for asking.

    You can read all of Keith Kos-Komments at this link:

    http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2008/1/14/12636/5764/1538#c1538


    BTW, This should drive the fangirls crazy...his girlfriend is a knitter!

    Rhinebeck (21+ / 0-)
    For God's sake, who installed the hidden camera? I'm sitting here reading this while the girlfriend is knitting. Literally.

    But the Rhinebeck comparison has nothing to do with her, nor Iowa. It was a comparison to the low ratings of Fox Business Channel, and I confess somebody at NBC PR spent an hour looking for unlikely things that had drawn bigger crowds than their first two months on the air. This was, to me, the most interesting of all those offered.

    If you're going through hell - Keep going! -- Winston Churchill

    by Keith Olbermann on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 09:36:14 PM PST

    I'm glad you're better!

    "All our zealots, who are so patriotic that they MUST force us to confront the error of our ways, have rushed to Huffington Post in order to combat the evil Lawrence O'Donnell-- the newest enemy now rending the very fabric of our nation..."

    The Republic be damned!; there are more important dangers to be taken on!!

    Of course Keith had to distance himself from Hillary, check out how the KosKids feel:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/18/12758/4538/634/438720

    If you're going through hell - Keep going! -- Winston Churchill

    by Keith Olbermann on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 09:36:14 PM PST

    Keith's moved from a sign-off that rips off an iconic journalist, to one ripping off an iconic statesman.

    Who will he evolve into next? Prince Aragorn?

    Good grief, the blog world is starting to go ga-ga over Keith's "apology. Gets his ass handed to him by O'Donnell, and he comes out smelling like roses:

    Keith Olbermann Does The Impossible: Admits He Was Wrong
    January 18, 2008 -- 4:02 PM EST // //
    Keith Olbermann made a big boo-boo on MSNCB last night. When he learned of it, he had a deeply bizarre, almost-unheard-of reaction: He admitted he was wrong and apologized.

    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/horsesmouth/2008/01/keith_olbermann.php

    -------------------------------------------

    Keith Olbermann made a mistake, so he apologized. Given that apologies from major news outlets are incredibly rare, I found this noteworthy.

    http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14286.html

    But he's getting killed in the demo by Nancy Grace...

    http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cnn/headline_making_news_in_demo_75346.asp

    Maybe Keith wants to shorten that list of the top 10 lies. I guess he doesn't realize that the list was narrowed down significantly.

    The Republic be damned!; there are more important dangers to be taken on!!

    Posted by: Steve at January 18, 2008 7:03 PM

    Now Steve, what else is there but saving the Republic by going after Lawrence O'Donnell and his opinion?

    He might actually vote according to his preferences, then where would this Republic be?

    you can read all of Keith's Kos Komments here:

    http://www.dailykos.com/user/Keith%20Olbermann/comments

    e had a deeply bizarre, almost-unheard-of reaction: He admitted he was wrong and apologized.

    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/horsesmouth/2008/01/keith_olbermann.php

    -------------------------------------------

    Keith Olbermann made a mistake, so he apologized. Given that apologies from major news outlets are incredibly rare, I found this noteworthy.

    http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14286.html

    Posted by: news you can use at January 18, 2008 7:14 PM

    Keith has been admitting he was wrong since his first blog.

    He had to admit he was wrong to say something nice about Hillary....now he has to admit he was wrong to have a guest who criticised John Edwards.

    What's next, he'll have to admit he's wrong for not just showing a blue screen with the word "republican" in a crossbar?

    I pulled an Olbermann, spoke without the facts. He didn't lie, but demonstrated behavior that falls into another list of superb journalistic acts.

    Here's the original piece against Keith giving O'Donnell time to opin:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/17/201838/283/782/438580

    BTW, it's called:

    Bad Keith! Bad!
    by 2501
    Thu Jan 17, 2008 at 05:29:44 PM PST

    sounds kinda like a dog being hit on the nose with a newspaper. Where's "Laura's dog" to comment on this!

    Here's the original piece against Keith giving O'Donnell time to opin:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/17/201838/283/782/438580

    Posted by: at January 18, 2008 7:38 PM

    Hey, if it rates an apology on Kos to have guest on who criticises a democratic presidential candidate, it would probably a Media Matters mass mailing to have on a Republican...

    Keith is smart. He long ago saw what took us having exposure to Olbyloons to see.

    He can't entertain or show tolerance toward conflicting opinions. He can't have Republican rebuttal to an opinion or a defense against an accusation. He'd be tarred and feathered...

    The last truly "rebuttal" guest I saw on Countdown was John Ashcroft and Keithy was shaking in his boots.

    In the future if someone calls MSNBC "sorry", don't assume it's a insult to their format.

    With the audience they are trying to woo, MSNBC will be literally "sorry" for something or another 99.9% of the time...

    The last truly "rebuttal" guest I saw on Countdown was John Ashcroft and Keithy was shaking in his boots.

    Posted by: Sharon at January 18, 2008 7:54 PM

    I saw that interview, Sharon, but I think Ashcroft (who had retired by then) was on because something he said contradicted an Administration official.

    From Kos comments:
    "In case it's not clear Keith, everyone on this blog completely worships you, no matter which Democrat we're supporting :)

    This is why he's posting at Kos, so he can read comment after comment telling him how wonderful he is - unbelievable.

    Let me get this right - O'Donnell's crime is he said Edwards doesn't have a chance to win the nominaton. OK, he used the word "loser." Does this mean O"Donnell has been put "on notice" and is banned from Countdown?

    Too damned funny.


    Didn't LO read the rules?

    1 never disagree with KO
    2) never make KO look bad in front of the Kos Kids


    feel free to add to the rules so the next follower doesn't get tossed from the guest list

    when will the person who booked O'Donnell get fired?

    I saw that interview, Sharon, but I think Ashcroft (who had retired by then) was on because something he said contradicted an Administration official.
    Posted by: Cecelia at January 18, 2008 8:00 PM

    That explains it. I vaguely remember that a prior guest told KO that he should fire a certain controversial question at Ashcroft and the tough guy responded that he certainly would, NOT as it turned out.

    > BTW, This should drive the fangirls crazy...his girlfriend is a knitter!

    Rhinebeck (21+ / 0-)
    For God's sake, who installed the hidden camera? I'm sitting here reading this while the girlfriend is knitting. Literally.


    So what is she knitting? something pink or something blue?

    Olbewrmann exposed again!

    Probably a sweater for her boyfriend-the one not named Keith.

    It's funny the Break Girl is using a Fox News focus group clip staring Fank Luntz and Sean Hannity in his new add to say that he is beating Obamanation and Hitlery. I thought Fox News was EVVVVVIIIIIIIILLLLLL!!!!

    Factor,

    The Breck Girl is a cute nickname for Edwards, but I like "Silky Pony" best.

    Cecelia,

    I like the term "ambulance chasing shyster" best.

    from dKos
    "Keith the Kossack!"

    So since KO is Kos's puppet, what will they have him doing next? Between the praises and adoration the comments are still scolding him for ignoring Kucnich and "browning out" Edwards. How can he satisfy them all? He's going to be a busy guy twisting in the wind.


    another comment from Kos -
    "Mr. Olbermann that your message is so important and these time so dire that segments such as Oddball should be set aside for the time being... that is unless MSNBC agrees to remove Tucker and Hardball and allow you to do a CNN Situation Room type 3 hour show!"

    The thought of Blubbermann doing a 3 hour show on his own is beyond amusing. He's lazy, he stutters, and he'd run out of steam after 45 min. and would have to fill it with reruns of his special comments and Oddball.

    In bed he runs out of steam in 4 minutes....

    He's a 60-minute man on air and a 60-second one off-air.

    The Kos diary must be a disappointment to him - only 800+ comments. The last time there were almost twice as many. Plus this time he even had to add some himself to attract Kossacks.

    Yes, journalist and Murrow come to mind when I see him asking "how high" when the kos kids says "jump."

    So now we know the NAKED truth about the Bathtub Boy name. But why is he called Bear? Is he a bear to work for? He's clumsy as a bear? Katy wakes up in the middle of the night and thinks she's in bed with a bear? God, that must be frightening.

    I think she calls him bear because he's so hairy. With eyebrows like that, imagine what the rest of him must be like. Check out the hair on his fingers when you watch Countdown, it's downright gross...

    Imagine the wax job on that body.

    If it's OK with you, we'll leave imagining such things to deviants and perverts.

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at January 19, 2008 10:52 PM

    This from the queen of beastiality, rich!

    The time of his post is interesting...does his girlfriend go to work with him everyday? Sort of like Paris Hilton toting her doggy.

    I simply said that was a lot to wax - I was speaking geographic territory - I didn't imagine " a hairy, nude Olbermann"

    thanks (not) for that image, A N O N - go back to your Jane Wyman ramblings


    ewwww.....

    Aside from Dr. Wiener, who would you like to see get a bikini wax, RK?

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at January 20, 2008 2:38 PM


    Malkin side by side with Coulter.......make it a 3some and add Karen Hanretty. I have a feeling they are all neatly trimmed, already......

    RK let's his hackery and partisan politics even get in the way of his sexual preferences.

    Coulter and Malkin: Eeeeewwwwwwwwwwww

    Posted by: at January 20, 2008 3:45 PM


    Let me guess your choices.....Helen Thomas and Janet Reno? Oh, I know. Those 2 manhaters Olby has on his show.

    Here's the original piece against Keith giving O'Donnell time to opin:
    BTW, it's called:
    Bad Keith! Bad! 
by 2501 
Thu Jan 17, 2008 at 05:29:44 PM PST
    sounds kinda like a dog being hit on the nose with a newspaper. Where's "Laura's dog" to comment on this!


    Keith heard this line more than I did. Funny Laura never repeated those words to me when I tried to lick her face - guess she liked my breath better.
    Keith had a bad habit of forgetting his ties, especially when he ran away during the night, and I would chew them to pieces. Too bad I destroyed them all because I could make some extra cash for new dog toys on ebay now. I hear there’s a market for them from the loons and I always like some new squeakys. I miss that sound during the night since Keith never comes around any more. Sometimes he would squeal like a pig when they were "wrestling," at least that’s what Laura called it.

    Keith ran in the middle of the night
    Hairy back what a terrible sight
    Not a bear, just a cub
    He'll soak in his tub
    And get Gibson to do the show right

    Posted by: From paranoid moron to psycho conservative pervert at January 21, 2008 11:03 AM


    Let me guess your choices.....Helen Thomas and Janet Reno? Oh, I know. Those 2 manhaters Olby has on his show.

    Thanks, loser patsy!

    You people are truly sad, sad individuals. This is the Fox News watching, conservative radio listening group that is hating on a man because he is more left in his thinking. And it is unfair of him to bash the right for all their lies... but it is ok for you guys to fabricate shit about him? Insane I tell yah

    The Bush Administration - 935 lies to the American people about why we should invade Iraq. You guys should talk about that.

    And John Gibson, give me a fucking break. The guy is a moron, and should be ashamed of himself for what he said about Heath Ledger.

    Me - I'm not here to talk about the Bush administration, Heath Ledger or John Gibson. I don't watch Fox News, except for Shep. I do not fabricate anything about your beloved KO. I just want others to see what your idol is really doing. Do you ever check out the clips he shows, the quotes he uses? Did you ever look at the entire video, or the whole transcript? Try it sometime. You will see KO can spin and twist with the best of them. He's not helping the left by doing the same thing he accuses the right of doing.

    Me - I'm not here to talk about the Bush administration, Heath Ledger or John Gibson. I don't watch Fox News, except for Shep. I do not fabricate anything about your beloved KO. I just want others to see what your idol is really doing. Do you ever check out the clips he shows, the quotes he uses? Did you ever look at the entire video, or the whole transcript? Try it sometime. You will see KO can spin and twist with the best of them. He's not helping the left by doing the same thing he accuses the right of doing.

    Posted by: at January 23, 2008 11:34 PM


    I strongly disagree. You all may have valid gripes about his continual expressions of personal opinion on a "news" show, but factually I have found his reports to be consistently in line.

    Olbermann's show has NEVER been the first place I've heard about any significant issue involving the national politics or international embroilments - I always have read usually numerous articles and collums about an issue before I get around to seeing it on "Countdown", and I rarely if ever note a discrepancy with the unequivocal facts.

    Face it - you people simply have a cognitive aversion to truth.

    Olbermann's show has NEVER been the first place I've heard about any significant issue involving the national politics or international [embroilments]sic - I always have read usually numerous articles and [collums]sic about an issue before I get around to seeing it on "Countdown", and I rarely if ever note a discrepancy with the unequivocal facts.

    posted by socialist slob

    Slob is right, this time. Olbermahn rips his show straight from media matters, du and the usual suspects. Slob reads them at his fav far left blogs, olby parrots them, olby has talking heads on his comedy show that further parrot them, therefore, they must be "unequivocally facts!" The thinking process of a spolbyloon, exposed. Slob, whatever you do , don't ever read the show re caps here. We don't want to burst your little bubble.....

    Don't worry, loser. It's in the works.

    "...I always have read usually numerous articles and [collums]sic about an issue before..."


    Fuck! Its pretty bad when you get "sic"ed by a retard like RK!

    Oh, and perfesser; the "sic" goes in the parentheses.

    Now, there's a rebuttal........desperate, indeed.

    The time of his post is interesting...does his girlfriend go to work with him everyday? Sort of like Paris Hilton toting her doggy.
    Posted by: at January 20, 2008 1:58 AM
    ______________
    I think there was some confusion of the time it posted here to Keith's post at Kos. He was well home by then. Although, I do believe Katy goes to work with him, I'm sure she's learning so much and it helps her "get her career" going. (How boring it must be to sit in your boyfriend's office while he plays "journalist" on the lowest rated cable tv station. Oh well, I guess she got some good deals on shoes while surfing ebay).

    Rhinebeck (21+ / 0-)
    For God's sake, who installed the hidden camera? I'm sitting here reading this while the girlfriend is knitting. Literally.

    But the Rhinebeck comparison has nothing to do with her, nor Iowa. It was a comparison to the low ratings of Fox Business Channel, and I confess somebody at NBC PR spent an hour looking for unlikely things that had drawn bigger crowds than their first two months on the air. This was, to me, the most interesting of all those offered.

    If you're going through hell - Keep going! -- Winston Churchill

    by Keith Olbermann on Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 09:36:14 PM PST
    ____________________

    I can't wait till she dumps him and writes the tell-all book, hopefully it will be better than the Karmabites blog. I wish some underling would write a nice tell-all about what an ass he is to work for as well.

    If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands.

    Funny stuff.


    "Countdown" is still in third place among the cable news networks -- Fox's "O'Reilly Factor" dominated the first quarter, with 2.26 million viewers, followed by CNN's Paula Zahn with 632,000 and Olbermann with 404,000. But the MSNBC show boasts of a 41 percent jump over last year among viewers age 25 to 54, edging CNN in that category.

    To borrow from Olbermann's old sportscasting gig, this is a bit like arguing that the Houston Texans may be 2-14, but the quarterback's passing accuracy is up. Or to use a broadcasting analogy, it's like arguing that Bravo's ratings are up 40 percent over its own 2005 total, when almost nobody watched them last year. O'Reilly is trumping Olbermann in this "good news" by a factor of five.

    Then there's the happy talk from Rick Kaplan, the Clinton golfing buddy:

    "Keith's show is the best show on television, period -- interesting, edgy and really well written," says MSNBC President Rick Kaplan. He says Olbermann is "incredibly aggressive" toward anyone in power: "In the same way that people who think the president needs to be supported more have turned to Fox, a lot of people who think the president needs to be taken on more have found a friendly voice in 'Countdown.' "

    Of course, this is especially hilarious coming from Kaplan, who was famous for not liking anyone being "incredibly aggressive" toward his boy Bill. While Olbermann was doing the "dry heaves" over Monica coverage in 1998 at MSNBC, Kaplan was running hour-long specials attacking the media's ferocity and the depravity of Ken Starr over at CNN.

    Conservative critics of Olbermann finally appear in the second-to-last paragraph: Kurtz quotes a commenter on Robert Cox's Olbermann Watch blog: "Hello! Earth to Krazy Keith! When was the last time anybody who disagreed with your spin was permitted to sit for an interview with your almightyness?" It's too bad Kurtz didn't seem to talk to Robert, or the rest of us who have endured the Keith content.

    We might have said this: if you looked up "pomposity" in the dictionary, there ought to be a picture of Olbermann there. Or maybe just under "smug." The program is overwritten, snide, conspiratorial, and loose with the facts.

    —Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center

    newsbusters.org/node/4730


    "this is a bit like arguing that the Houston Texans are may be 2-14, but the quarterback's passing accuracy is up."

    That would be a reasonable metaphor if this were a football game....or a sports leaque. But since it is neither, such comparisons will always be misplaced.

    While KO haters continue to focus on Countdown's month to month comparison to other networks, which seems to vary, the most relevant comparisons will always be to other shows on his own network, none of which even come close.

    Mike, the correct charge is that it is an illogical ANALOGY, which it is not. It is a very good analogy in fact.

    What is analogous?


    Cable News............................League/NFC

    Show.....................................Team

    Host of Show..........................QB

    Ratings.................................Stats of QB


    Let me show how well it does work:

    MSNBC remains in the cellar among all Cable New's stations.


    The Saints remain in the cellar among all NFC teams.
    ###########################

    MSNBC sometimes scores a rare second or third place but never win the ratings.

    The Saints sometime score a rare winning quarter or half but never win the game.
    ###########################

    The host and star of Countdown is KO.

    The QB and star of the Saints is Archie Manning.
    ##########################

    One bright spot is that KO continues to improve and his ratings have gone up some yet he still resides in the cellar..

    One bright spot is that Manning continues to improve and his stats are getting better yet he still resides in the cellar.

    Seems like a logical analogy to me.

    Grammie

    I, too, think it is a great analogy. Which is why I posted it.

    As I stated Janet, it is in my opinion a very poor METAPHOR ( comparison of seemingly unrelated ideas).

    Neither is it a particularly relevant ANALOGY (Similarity in some respects in ideas that are otherwise dissimilar).

    Now lets review:......TV News is not a football game, nor is it a sports league, ..... just as ethics, morality, and virtue is not a popularity contest.

    When it comes to subject of right vs wrong, I will personally take the correct 'team' over the 'team' with the biggest numbers every time.

    So Janet, please spare us your arrogant and egotistical 'lessons' in word definitions that are no less narrow minded in scope than your definition of satire was.


    "You're wrong!" With no proof.....Arrogant? Indeed.

    Mike, just a suggestion. The definition you used for 'metaphor' is actually a simple definition for "analogy'.

    You might want to look up 'metaphor', 'mixed metaphor', 'analogy' and 'analogous.

    I have no problem with your disagreeing with me but I do think you should at least know the definitions of the words that you using in your attempt to rebut me.


    Grammie

    Janet, I looked up the dictionary definitions of both words before my last post, ..... just to be certain that I was correct, ..... just as I did with the word "Satire" prior to that other ridiculous discussion we had about that.

    That said, I'm really sorry that you have degenerated into the nit picker about words and wording, ..... unlike the Janet I first encountered and respected when I first posted on this blog.

    I don't mind disagreements either. In fact, that is why I come here.

    so in the spirit of the latter concept, whether you choose to call the comparison of Countdown to Professional football an analogy, a metaphor, or simply a bad joke. ..... the fact remains that television news is serious business, and therefore NOT a game of winners and losers.

    While the unfortunate reality it is that ratings do ultimately determine the ultimate success and the personal fortune of the particular pundits and corporations involved, it is only of consequence to me when they become so bad that they are forced off the air becuase of ratings.

    I'm sure it does...to YOU !
    I see you're just as accurate with your facts about sports as you are with politics.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at January 27, 2008 6:12 PM


    Just loaded with substance and facts, ey little man?

    This is why McCain will never be president.( or any republican) We can't extricate ourselves from the last war a republican president got us into..and they're preparing for even more wars now !
    Unbelievable !

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at January 27, 2008 6:36 PM


    I pity your students. Burger flippers is all they will ever be. Confused ones at that.


    Attribution (copyright), a concept in copyright law requiring an author to be credited.

    from the man that can't get a GED

    "It was disappointing to see how many people were applauding the obviously radical speakers who were at times dishonest during the debate," she said. "It was disappointing to see students who agreed with the justification of terrorism and who were not questioning the rhetoric of the speakers."

    "The debate was another childish attempt at sensationalism by the Oxford Union," said Yair Zivan, campaign director of the Union of Jewish Students (UJS). "To have a debate about Israel without a single mainstream voice present shows the debate was the farce we expected. The Oxford Union owes better to its membership to allow for intellectual debate and they should try to seriously engage with issues."

    The Oxford University Debating Society refused to comment on the debate.

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?c=JPArticle&cid=1201367874283&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

    Mike, I will do my best to keep my head up and not burst into tears except when I am alone. Sniff sniff!

    Grammie

    PS I think you might want to consider a refresher course for your GED. :)

    Bobo, I obviously missed those classes in the very strict time comparisons that is appropriate for a valid analogy. No calling Repubs Nazis, brown shirts and SS. Dicky Durbin speaking from the well of the Senate comparing our soldiers at Gitmo to Nazi Concentration Camps, Soviet Gulags and Pol Pots killing fields is wrong on more than level. I got that part all right.

    I need help though on exactly how tight the contemporaneous aspect needs to be. If I had used the Dolphins and Trent Green would the analogy have held up or since the Dolphins are out till next year I couldn't use them either.

    Your finely honed mind certainly operates on a razor edge that we common folk need much instruction to understand.

    Grammie

    Frankly Janet, I don't give a damn whether you burst into tears or not, ...... any more than I give a damn about your obviously personalized and overly narrow definitions of of words like "satire", "metaphor", and "analogy", that seem to exclude any and all established dictionary definitions that you personally deem inappropriate.

    As for updating my "GED", I believe my existing diplomas might continue to serve my needs better, thank you.

    You might want to get back to your football game now.

    Mike you sounded so Rhett Butlerish.

    Is that an analogy or a metaphor?

    Grammie

    Sorry Janet, but I just couldn't bring myself to add the "my dear" part in light of your continuing reliance on ad hominem over substance.

    It's good to see you remain a legend in your own mind on this blog.

    Frankly Janet, I don't give a damn whether you burst into tears or not,

    Posted by: Mike at January 27, 2008 9:47 PM

    Sorry Janet, but I just couldn't bring myself to add the "my dear" part in light of your continuing reliance on ad hominem over substance.

    It's good to see you remain a legend in your own mind on this blog.

    Posted by: Mike at January 27, 2008 10:23 PM

    I am still not certain the nominee will be McCain. It looks more-and-more possible, as the party mainstream is beginning to embrace him, perhaps as the least objectionable alternative. However, be the nominee McCain or Romney, this will be an election not following the pattern of the last 28 years. Since Reagan's first election, the Republicans have embraced, held onto right wing Christian fundamentalists. With Reagan, that embrace was possible. Although he had no discernible religious committment (an occassional Presbyterian as I recall), he could pander on the issues appealng to the RWCF's. Indeed, with a disernible religious committment, that would have been impossible. Bush the Elder was probably the most religious Republican candidate in the period, but he was an Episcopalian, virtually the antihesis of a RWCF. He coasted in on RR's coattails, coattails shorn by the time of the re-election. Dole, again no discernible religious committment. Bush the Younger, a vague committment to some flowing form of Methodism, a faith committment shared with Senator Clinton. The vagueness allowed the RWCF to attach to him. Now, we have McCain, with absoluely no discernible religious committment, and wrong on so many of the RWCF issues, and Romney, who professes a strong religious committment, but one which alienates many RWCF and who is historically on the wrong side of so many of the issues. So, the RWCF have no one to attach to in the Fall campaign. I think we see tremendous drift.

    McCain, unlike Giuliani, passes most evangelical's smell test, anon. Although he tested the support with his "gang of 14" thwarting of judicial nominee filibuster nuclear option and the marriage amendment, he has very clear and successful voting patterns that remind people he is a man of principle....which is what overcomes such issues.....

    Not the least of which was his vote of GUILTY on the charges against President Bill Clinton as a member of the jury in the Senate in 1998......

    Presidential nominees are capable of talking in large themes and Senators can use their voting patterns (McCain is 80% conservative) to back up those grand themes.....

    Giuliani was persona non grata with many in the evangelical community.

    Romney is just not charasmatic and I believe lacking traction presently....Florida may change that and he may become more competitive....

    I see it now that the nomination is McCain's to lose....

    In the general, barring a thrid party on either side, evangelicals will vote against the leftist democrat in the form of HRC (powerful anti-vote) or Obama (less anti- vote).....perhaps enough to give the White House back to the republicans.

    You're smoking some bad stuff, man.

    Those are my words you fool.
    You just make a habit of always being just plain wrong...about everything.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at January 28, 2008 1:05 AM


    Are you having som kind of flash back? You're not making any sense.

    RK, thank you so much for crying to RCox about the namejackers. It takes a strong man to look like such a pussy for all of our sake. Now we have this forum all to ourselves (for the most part).

    Please see what you can do about him getting rid of Why, Mike and all the anons who don't think like we do. You're doing God's work.

    Cowy, Bob didn't ban anyone on my account. They did it to themselves. I'm sure you enjoyed what they were doing, though, since you're one of them. Also, their 'thinking' isn't what got them banned. Disrupting the board and profanity is what got them banned. Anything else, cowy?

    Don't be so humble, RK.

    We all know it was your constant crying and threatening to leave if it didn't stop that got the ball rolling. You are like Norma Rae for us. Thank you for all you do. Now this site is dominated by you, Grammie, Cecelia, Cee and of course our homeboy Phony.

    You stood up for us and for that I will be eternally grateful. Godspeed RK.

    It seems to me that Mr. Cox simply lost patience with the usual subjects trolling here...I respect his decision and hope that those willing to engage in respectful, cogent discussion continue to post from both sides of the issues.

    I for one am ready to leave the bad behavior in the past and act more responsibly now that Mr. Cox has been plain on what he intends OW to be....Taking things too seriously has lead many (I include myself) to act improperly.

    Olbermann needs to be watched if for no other reason than to entertain normal people who want his brand of punditry placed in the proper context....Olbermann is an entertainer looking for ratings (read financial and professional success) with a huge left leaning bias......

    He lies, spins, spits, squirms, smirks and commits hypocrisy along with journalistic malpractice to acheive his goals and those are the humorous bonuses that just keep on giving!

    cowy, since you miss your troll buddies so much, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be too hard to find them over at the kos site. Tell them hello for me. Oh, keep defending their idiocy and condoning their behavior. It's very telling.

    Cee. Poop. What more needs be said?

    Cowy?
    Are you calling me a cow? Is that what you call the objects of your desire?

    Cowy?
    Horsey?
    Piggy?
    Sheepy?

    From what IP address is the 1:48 post being sent? I demand it be banned at once, and that the poster be forever banished from Nuevo Olbermannwatch!

    You might want to get back to your football game now.

    Posted by: Mike at January 27, 2008 9:47 PM

    Grammie and Sharon are the football chicks out here from what I gather.

    I wonder if they're like those hot chicks who wear football jerseys and still manage to look cute. MMmmmm....

    Yep, your an olbyloon.

    Yep, you're an olbyloon.

    Yes, they're hot, but they wear moo-moos these days. The men at the WWI Old Soldiers Home get all worked up everytime these two Mommas bend over to pick up the dimes they throw on the ground.

    I hear Grammie used to run around with Milton Berle.

    She did until he dumped her for Doddie Fields.

    'why,' which words were 'yours?' One more thing, keep dwelling on Janet's little name mistake, it shows your desperation.

    Funny, you only posted the time, no post to show 'your words.' Those were my words teaching you what attribution means since you had not a clue the definition of said word. Remember? Of course not.

    This is why McCain will never be president.( or any republican) We can't extricate ourselves from the last war a republican president got us into..and they're preparing for even more wars now !
    Unbelievable !

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at January 27, 2008 6:36 PM


    I pity your students. Burger flippers is all they will ever be. Confused ones at that.


    Attribution (copyright), a concept in copyright law requiring an author to be credited.
    Posted by: royal king at January 27, 2008 7:04 PM

    Those are my words you fool.
    You just make a habit of always being just plain wrong...about everything.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at January 28, 2008 1:05 AM

    Here's te post, 'why.' What are you crying about? Because I re posted your words? I was making a point, get off the dope.

    I never denied they were your words, I asked which words you were referring too when you started crying like a little baby over nothin. Lay off the speed, teach.

    why, you are a desperate loon for sure. I never claimed that "your words" weren't your words. I merely asked which words you were referring to. Wow. You're swinging at a pinata that's not even there, tdf.....

    why, the attribution definition was posted to mock you. A couple weeks ago you accused me of posting an article w/out attribution when the authors name was right there in black and white. Amnesia? Desperate? I am sorry for giving you tmi at once, it obviously confused you.

    the attribution definition was posted to mock you.

    #

    I thought you were being ironic.

    The LAT, not always wholly reliable, indicates Rudy will drop out after an expected Florida loss but not before the Dinosaurs gather at the Reagan Library for the next Salute to the Past. CNN reports that McCain has surged ahead in California. If Rudy does drop out, it seems to me that most of his support, as little as it now seems to be, goes to McCain. Does that make him inevitable? Does Romney realize that is happening? Does that explain the sharper edge to his condescension in recent days? The down-turned left corner of his mouth when he is smirking?

    Wasn't kucinich your man? Where's he?

    You guessed wrong again, Bumblebrains.
    BTW, Where's Freddie, the charisma candidate !


    Posted by: at January 30, 2008 12:39 AM


    Olbyloon diversion #3000. Coward.

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