Did you hear him trying to make much out of the 20% independent vote, stating several times that if you took it away, the margin would be 32-31. Each time he said it, he was shot down.

I made the comment before the whole post was up. Sorry for the redundancy.

Did anyone notice that Chris Matthew gave Barack Obama a hand job that would be the envy of most prostitutes and gooshed over how he's the world's rebuke of Dubya and that he's the product of America and Kenya and had a 'third world prespective'. It was so good it gave Chris an orgasm

Daily Kos is turning on their hero? Excuse me while I protect myself from flying pigs.

Ha!!! How many times have I told you Olby loving loons that Olbermann is in the pocket of the Clinton crime family. Just wait until his next Meltdown. It will be both barrels aimed at Obamanation. No, project Rudy, no Bush rants, and no Huckabee rants. Nothing but Obamanation assaults. Its go time for the Clinton machine and their lead attack dog.

Dark night for you KEITH, we know you're reading this. You done been exposed pal by us and your audience at Kos!!! You're a SHILL!!

did anyone notice that when romney was giving his speech at the same time as huckabees victory speech olbermann called it sour grapes by romney, but later as biden gave his speech at the same time obama was giving his victory speech olbysham didnt say a word about biden?

did anyone notice that when romney was giving his speech at the same time as huckabees victory speech olbermann called it sour grapes by romney, but later as biden gave his speech at the same time obama was giving his victory speech olbysham didnt say a word about biden?

did anyone notice that when romney was giving his speech at the same time as huckabees victory speech olbermann called it sour grapes by romney, but later as biden gave his speech at the same time obama was giving his victory speech olbysham didnt say a word about biden?

I smell a Mike Gravel Rally!
Or maybe it's just teen spirit.

btw, who is Mike Gravel?

"a sea of Republican media propaganda"?

That "sea" must exist in the same alternative universe where jet fuel can't melt steel, where Diebold cheated John Kerry in Ohio, where huge throngs line up eager to see "Lions for Lambs" ...

Ah yes....the leftist ruling elite and their propagandist, Keith Olbermann, handed a defeat the size of Iowa....HRC is unelectable and someone put their eggs in one basket....I guess the view of America from his million plus dollar apartment overlooking central park is kinda skewed!

It is interesting to see the man's behavior regarding rationalizing the stunning defeat of the left's ruling class candidate. In a state of real Americans....not leftist radicals, people made their voices heard for future looking candidates looking to unite the country, not divide the country and discard more than half of it over tried and failed leftist ideology....This was truly a generational and ideological test and I am more than satisfied with the results.

Obama is not a coward scared of his left fringe like HRC....we shall see how the left's establishment reacts in the next few days as they plot his defeat in New Hampshire, South Carolina and super-duper Tuesday.

Joyful to watch!

Lol! Olbermann kicks butt. Mainly neocon dork butt. He said it for all of us,Bush is a liar, his followers are morons, frauds, traitors and scum.

Nice diversion from the thread, darlie.....Try again, not biting....

Olbermann is a self-centered egotist who saw stars in his eyes with the Clinton Co. push and payed early on.....his investment will tank and he will remain a fourth tier anchorman with poor ratings and a fringe audience....

Live with it....the man says it all to manipulate you to pay for his Manhattan lifestyle....all he wants is a similar place in DC and HRC is the ticket....too bad it looks dubious now.

Go Obama.

These screen-caps from the Today Show interview with Hillary reveal why Olby loves her so much.

Click the sig for the link... URL didn't take above.

How can MSNBC keep presenting KO as a newsman when he refuses to interview any of the Republican candidates and is clearly in the pocket of the Clintons?

I love the comments from the leftist blogs... I guess "Progressive" is a code word for "Hillary Clinton supporter"

Phari-cee's right-wing elite have chosen Preacher Huckabee as his leader.

"Phari-cee's right-wing elite have chosen Preacher Huckabee as his leader."

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I am not so sure that is accurate, Lucy....The social conservative grassroots of Iowa came out in droves to support Governor Huckabee in the face of the conservative establishment candidates....so I would take a deep breath if I were you and wait for New Hampshire and super Tuesday....the republican nomination is truly up in the air......

Giuliani and McCain passed on Iowa like Bill Clinton did in 1992 (and McCain pulled out a decent showing anyway) and there will be much different grassroot dynamics in New Hampshire and the super Tuesday states.

Your elite, however, have picked a loser....even to the future of your party, the under 30 crowd, HRC is the past....she is 60's baby-boomer leftist ideology persona non grata and I am happy to see democracy work for the good of the country.

Now we get to see the knives come out on Obama from the truly morally bankrupt left elite...But my prediction is that America will embrace him and he will survive the onslaught....His nomination to stand as a presidential candidate will be a breath of fresh air and hopefully the republicans will also contribute to the positive trend of hope and optimism people like you and the far left never offer.

Edwards corporate greed negativism and Clinton's retread did not win out last night.

perhaps douchebag refuses to acknowledge Obama because he hates black people?

Mr. blank-FLUCKER (cue OLD SPICE jingle) seems to want to ignore the endorcements of the left's ruling class......

NOW

John Corzine

Geraldine Ferraro

Barbara Mikulski

Dolores Huerta

Antonio Villaraigosa

Thomas Menino

Sheldon Whitehouse

Albio Sires

David Dinkins

Richard Gephardt

Robert Menendez

Joseph Wilson

Jane Harman

Rob Reiner

Raul Yzaguirre

Lucille Roybal-Allard

John Street

John Lewis

Walter Mondale

I could go on and on with leftist politicians and elite, but I don't want to embarass Mr. blank-FLUCKER (cue OLD SPICE jingle) once again....

Logic is not his strong suit....Obama has been derided by leftists as not ready for the presidency....Andrew Young comes to mind......

But Mr. blank-FLUCKER (cue OLD SPICE jingle) comes here and tries to spin.....It's about the elitist leadership of a party that has lost its way, man.....and you just can't seem to face that fact.....

Poor guy....his own arrogance has blinded him.....

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"I am not so sure that is accurate, Lucy....The social conservative grassroots of Iowa came out in droves to support Governor Huckabee in the face of the conservative establishment candidates....so I would take a deep breath if I were you and wait for New Hampshire and super Tuesday....the republican nomination is truly up in the air......"

Sorry, Phar-cee, I was merely applying the same rubric to your relationship to your party that you use when goading me about that corporatist hack Hillary Clinton.

I have not done that since the last time I responded to you, Lucy....The difference again is that Huckabee is not the republican establishment candidate yet....sure there is a possibility he will be the nominee and the conservative elite will have to accept it but I am not sure there are even odds on that possibility.

Clinton was the presumed candidate and she is very liberal...she has the great support of the left's elite as I proved by responding to Mr. blank-FLUCKER's (cue OLD SPICE jingle) idiocy.....As she falls, so does a generation's failed ideology that should have been abandoned 10 years ago by the democrats but has and was not.....voila....Obama.....

Please remember, I do not like Huckabee as a presidential candidate, despite his public expression of his love of Christ.....He has very limited foreign policy experience and has expressed views that I feel are not beneficial to our nation's security....Like Bill Clinton, his lack of foreign policy experience could be a problem as totalitarianism is still a real danger in our world.....

However, in regards to the left's candidate, I am glad to see a sea change beginning here in Iowa....it was clear....The republicans have much more work to do.

Ah, Mr. blank-FLUCKER (cue OLD SPICE jingle) once again tries to ignore what the Iowa loss for Clinton's means to THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY....What an idiot...these are the primaries and reflective of what the individual parties are facing....come the summer, if HRC or Obama is the candidate then his logic applies....no republican has influence in a democrat primary or caucus, twit!

Oh my....I guess Mr. blank-FLUCKER (cue OLD SPICE jingle) just cannot get over the fact that the wise leaders of the left who brought us the current do-nothing congress and have endorced Clinton almost across the board are being rejected by the masses....Oh and this includes the leftist shill hack Keith Olbermann who had great things planned as the establishment (and Clinton) chief sychophant.

Mr. blank-FLUCKER (cue OLD SPICE jingle) has succumb to dementia, as illustrated by his 9:29 AM post....spinning the loss of the establishment candidate of the democratic party as some kind of issue that bodes ill for republicans is like what the nutroots are doing in spinning the small caucus into some kind of sign that the country is about to become blue.....

Sorry...look again....even with the promises new government programs and anti-Bush rhetoric, the Clinton machine could not muster a win....despite the left's establishment push from Hollywood to Washington DC to NYC.....HRC is a poor candidate from a time long gone....your generation, right Mr. blank-FLUCKER (cue OLD SPICE jingle)?.....

When the final nail is in the coffin on the Clinton dynasty and the old left is gone, a great sigh will come from the country......

And then we can go on to the real business of the country and have a real, serious and adult campaign for President this year...

Without the left's elite candidate being involved!

Just showed Hiallry stumping on MSNBC and she definetly aged 10 more years overnight. It was a body blow to her campaign, but don't underestimate the Clintons... they are the modern day Phoenix.

Remember- anyone but Hillary in '08!

About 6 weeks ago, before I was murdered by the US CIA, during my interview with David Frost, I mentioned Osama bin laden had been murdered. Since our news in Pakistan isn’t filtered by Fixed News, CNN (Fixed News Lite) and the Bush crime family, we have known this fact for 5 years now. I’m so happy that your war on a feeling called, “terror” is finally over. Bless you and thank you for listening to me.

> Go do another horrid "Special Comment," Keith.

from a Kossack - ouch!

At DU they're excusing his few mentions of Edwards and fast-talking about Obama by saying MSNBC and Matthews won't let him be tell the truth

There once was a man from Secaucus
Like Beale he'd try to shock us
Barack he'll detest
Post-election spitfest
And he'll bias the Iowa caucus

Going into the election it was unprecedented. There isn't an incumbent or a VP running for the first time in umpteen years! So the tagline was definitley going to be 'change'. And every single candidate, dem or rep is echoing that line.

But change seems like a ridiculous tagline for Hillary, doesn't it? She gets a pass for a change from rep to dem in the whitehouse... but she and her husband have been riding the political chuck wagon for 20+ years. Bitch pleeeese.

Agreed...

On a side note, the reviews for Obama's speech last night have been glowing (Mike said he has never been so moved, sic) Your thoughts?

I ask because he seems to me to have too much preacher in him. A sort of Rev. Jackson tone (not an ethnic thing). I like his words, not his demeanor. I think that may catch up with him. Thoughts?

And Edwards hooplah has been quelled... odd for a second place finish

Hillary is getting crushed even by her media fans.

Mika is calling out the fact that she doesn't do media events without them being totally controlled. I missed this, but I guess she doesn't take questions unless they were planted. Media wild cards are ignored.

How can this calculated woman get this far? I feel the media has coddled her.

Mika just called her attitude as "entitled." The Obama bandwagon has left the station. You on it?

from Inside Cable News

"Keith Olbermann said last night that Mike Gravel had dropped out of the race" and apparently it was news to Gravel - now he wants an apology from KO and MSNBC

Do facts matter?

Get Gravel's offical campaign statement here.....

http://www.gravel2008.us/content/were-still-race

"MSNBC pundit Keith Olbermann"

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Yep...now that is an accurate description....But don't hold your breath for an apology.

At least he didn't say Gravel was dead

> Posted by: Frank Reynolds

haha! I'm old enough to get that reference!

Peggy Noonan said it well regarding Huckabee's appeal:

"Mr. Huckabee likes to head-fake people into thinking he's Gomer Pyle, but he's more like the barefoot boy of the green room. He's more James Carville than Jim Nabors.

"What we have learned about Mr. Huckabee the past few months is that he's an ace entertainer with a warm, witty and compelling persona. He won with no money and little formal organization, with an evangelical network, with a folksy manner, and with the best guileless pose in modern politics. From the mail I have received the past month after criticizing him in this space, I would say his great power, the thing really pushing his supporters, is that they believe that what ails America and threatens its continued existence is not economic collapse or jihad, it is our culture.

"They have been bruised and offended by the rigid, almost militant secularism and multiculturalism of the public schools; they reject those schools' squalor, in all senses of the word. They believe in God and family and America. They are populist: They don't admire billionaire CEOs, they admire husbands with two jobs who hold the family together for the sake of the kids; they don't need to see the triumph of supply-side thinking, they want to see that suffering woman down the street get the help she needs.

"They believe that Mr. Huckabee, the minister who speaks their language, shares, down to the bone, their anxieties, concerns and beliefs. They fear that the other Republican candidates are caught up in a million smaller issues--taxing, spending, the global economy, Sunnis and Shia--and missing the central issue: again, our culture. They are populists who vote Republican, and as I have read their letters, I have felt nothing but respect.

"But there are two problems. One is that while the presidency, as an office, can actually make real changes in the areas of economic and foreign policy, the federal government has a limited ability to change the culture of America. That is something conservatives used to know. Second, I'm sorry to say it is my sense that Mr. Huckabee is not so much leading a movement as riding a wave. One senses he brilliantly discerned and pursued an underserved part of the voting demographic, and went for it. Clever fellow. To me, the tipoff was 'Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?'"

http://opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110011083

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So true....Her analysis of the end of Clinton Co. is also pretty much on target....

Thank goodness!

I watched a lot of TV as a CHILD. lol

But really, on whom will he blame this error? Surely he will not take responsibility. I remember when he dragged Denis Horgan out to apologize for getting a drummer's name wrong, as he professed to be Horgan 's friend. Someone else will take the heat for this, but it might be too late because Olbermann's name is already in today's headlines.

Olbermann was too busy trying to use arcane Polk and McKinley references; maybe he should worry about current facts.

When the NYTimes praises Chris Matthews over you....well....:

For Happy Warrior of Political Coverage, Another Joyous Night

By ALESSANDRA STANLEY
Published: January 4, 2008

"...Mr. Olbermann delivered a generic rundown of the candidates’ final pitches,..."

"...Throughout the night, Mr. Matthews blurted on about the Roosevelt election in 1932 and 19th-century races. He mixed some metaphors and made up terms like “victory projectile.” But on a night when even Mr. Obama’s history-making victory could not impel the networks to interrupt their regular programming — “The Celebrity Apprentice” on NBC, a rerun of “Grey’s Anatomy” on ABC — all that unbridled enthusiasm on cable news was welcome...."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/04/us/politics/04watch.html?ref=politics

It was terriic to see Olbermann get a beat down from Matthews & Howard Fineman about the "20 percent of independents" question. I do find it facisnating that Olbermann pronounced Barak Obama wrong on two occassions. The best though was Rachel Maddow comparing Obama to Bush. (That gem came in the final hour of coverage). Like I said before, it will be fascinating to watch Olbermann implode as Obama gets closer & closer to the nomination.

memo to Ketih Olbermann:

Is loving someone for their money any worse than loving them for their looks?
By DAVID BADDIEL - More by this author »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=505780&in_page_id=1879

Holy cow, another glowing, fawning article about Keith Olbermann (this was the one the fan girls said was postponed so that Olbermann could announce his engagement). The comments are good, mostly negatively accurate.

Making sense - with style
'Conservative' Keith Olbermann offers up a mix of political, sports and pop-culture knowledge without any regrets

By DAVID BARRON
Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ent/tv/5421792.html

Let Olbermann continue to inch further out on that branch he's hanging on to. He's beginning to alienate his own (small) base. Sure some of the fangurls will never see the light (unless he's caught on to catch a predator and then they'll swear it was a set up) but his biases are clear and they are showing and it's clearly for HRC, not for the fringe candidates the lefties love so much (Kucinich). Watch him implode, just as he has at every job he has ever had. This one will be no exception.

WOW!
I've never really seen the Clinton bias that everyone seem to point out Olbermann had. But I saw it last night. I was a little disappointed in Olbermann. I mean I'll still watch his show, but yeah, kind of disappointing.

keep watching, Trent, and you'll continue to be disappointed. If you view with an open mind you'll catch more bias and realize there's a lot of spin going on.

Trent, agreed. I always felt Olbermann was a little weak in the politics game---at the very least came late to the game. I felt a little embarrassed for him watching how the political "elders" of MSNBC handled Olbermann. It was not Olbermann's night. I think he is best in the confines of his very controlled show.

If you think about it, here was a black man winning in a 97 percent white Iowa caucus to be president, it was really something to witness. I think all (except Maddow, who compared Obama to George Bush, which was very sad and disappointing) were a little in awe of the night. I wanted Olbermann to just stop bringing up the "entrance" poll junk about independents vs dems. His Clinton bias in bring this polling thing up, in the context of the historical night, was starting to border on racism, I felt.

Trent, agreed. I always felt Olbermann was a little weak in the politics game---at the very least came late to the game. I felt a little embarrassed for him watching how the political "elders" of MSNBC handled Olbermann. It was not Olbermann's night. I think he is best in the confines of his very controlled show.

If you think about it, here was a black man winning in a 97 percent white Iowa caucus to be president, it was really something to witness. I think all (except Maddow, who compared Obama to George Bush, which was very sad and disappointing) were a little in awe of the night. I wanted Olbermann to just stop bringing up the "entrance" poll junk about independents vs dems. His Clinton bias in bring this polling thing up, in the context of the historical night, was starting to border on racism, I felt.

Posted by: pundit junkie at January 4, 2008 7:06 PM

How you pulled racism out of that is beyond me. But I think that he did show favoritism to clinton.

Yes, Olbermann has been unfairly favoring Hillary over other Democratic hopefuls - as has most of the MSM - for about two years now. However, I had been actually thinking that he'd eased up a bit on this bias recently, including on last night's coverage.

Matthews, now - there's a freak for you. His ad-libbing is simply wierd.

Yes, Olbermann has been unfairly favoring Hillary over other Democratic hopefuls - as has most of the MSM - for about two years now. However, I had been actually thinking that he'd eased up a bit on this bias recently, including on last night's coverage.

Matthews, now - there's a freak for you. His ad-libbing is simply wierd.

Posted by: Sir Loin of Beef at January 4, 2008 7:40 PM

It was a little sad to see Olbermann last night. And I agree with you on Matthews, especially when he talks about Obama being "third world" and being the "son of Kenya". Not that there is anything particularly wrong with it -- but it just sounds wrong coming from his mouth. Kinda the same weird tension when you hear republicans try to address minorities.

Trent, perhaps "racism" was a bit strong.
Personally, I think that Olbermann is very much in the Clinton camp and is NOT a racist, but, again, IN THE CONTEXT of Obama, a black man, winning Iowa (mainly white), Olbermann's obsessive harping on the polling question could be considered by some, slightly racist.

Trent, perhaps "racism" was a bit strong.
Personally, I think that Olbermann is very much in the Clinton camp and is NOT a racist, but, again, IN THE CONTEXT of Obama, a black man, winning Iowa (mainly white), Olbermann's obsessive harping on the polling question could be considered by some, slightly racist.

Posted by: pundit junkie at January 4, 2008 8:10 PM

It would be insane to get racism out him, for favoring Hillary Clinton. And I think I would have to question anybody's intelligence if they did so.
I think that THOSE people need to watch "The Munsters" skit from the Chappelle Show.

Olbermann was really a fish out of water yesterday, I think it was very clear that he is a bit of a one-trick Bush-bashing pony. (Don't get me wrong, there is enough Bush administration corruption to fill thousands of Countdown shows). People seem to be moving on from Bush, and are getting caught up in the elections. Heck, Pelosi took impeachment hearings off the table.

Olbermann was clearly the policital "baby" during yesterday's coverage, even David Shuster had to "handle/correct" him. (I think when you're getting handled by Shuster, you're just not that bright, politically).

It will be interesting to see how he spins another Obama win---or an Obama nomination. Overall, Olbermann is very politically awkward in how he weaves his Hillary Clinton bias into his Countdown segments and election coverage. He better be careful, the Daily Kos and others are clearly getting wise to it.

It would be insane to get racism out him, for favoring Hillary Clinton. And I think I would have to question anybody's intelligence if they did so.
I think that THOSE people need to watch "The Munsters" skit from the Chappelle Show.
Posted by: Trent the Marxist at January 4, 2008 8:23 PM

It is not necessarily about
'favoring Clinton"--- it's Olbermann's zealousness in SPINNING for Clinton that can get him into "problems" just by the very fact that Obama IS black and there ARE issues in politics concerning race. Clinton's people have already injected race via "was Obama a drug dealer" "Barack HUSSIEN Obama could be the Muslum Manchurian Candiate"---(YES, Bob Kerry actually said that on CNN).

Like I said, I personally do not think Olbermann is a racist, he himself said he grew up in a bigoted environment. (As I'm sure most people experienced growing up in the 60's & 70's). And being a Clinton supporter and in lieu of the Clinton race-baiting tactics, I do not think it is too far of a stretch for some folks to consider Olbermann's spinning for Hillary (during an historic Obama WIN) slightly racist, or at the very least, bordering on race-baiting.

As for the Chappelle skit, I'm sure it's funny. He is very funny and talented guy.

Countdown is on. He has already accused Hillary Clinton of "spinning" the results in her favor. He also just interviewed Edwards. I've seen no trashing of Obama or negative spinning on his victory whatsoever.

That said, as a regular countdown watcher, I have seen NO evidence of KO favoring Clinton over the other democratic canidates all along, ..... a bias many on this blog keep insisting he has.

As someone who has favored Obama or Edwards over Clinton all along, I really think I would have noticed if Keith had been entrenched in the Clinton camp.

That rather silly charge never made any sense to me anyway since KO's biggest criticizm has been the war in Iraq, which Clinton actually supported, and we STILL don't know where she really stands regarding it.

He is now discussing Obama's chances in New Hampshire in a very positive manner.
However, I'll keep watching for this alledged pro Clinton bias I keep reading about on this blog though!

Olbermann just apologized for the Gravel incident, and blamed it on someone at the news desk. I guess that's really all he could do. He didn't just pull it out of thin air, but someone didn't do a thorough fact-finding job at the NEWS channel.

Mike, I respect a lot of what you say here, but I must respectfully disagree with you on Olbermann not having a Clinton bias.

Did you watch MSNBC's election coverage last night? I think it was the most visable yesterday. I would agree, Hillary has been getting a rough time of it since her Philly fumble, and Chris Matthews is especially intense about her, and perhaps that gives one the impression that Olbermann is being fair. It is often subtle but Olbermann does have a clear bias for Hillary. Just by that fact that he has Edwards on tonight is just one example.

I am not near a TV, so I'll catch Countdown later. Perhaps he is "righting his journalism ship" in lieu of the Daily Kos critique.

Mike - recheck the show. About Clinton, KO made some statements about her saying several weeks ago that she did not expect to win Iowa, and then he showed a clip from today where she said the same thing. I think that was to aid her attempts to dismiss critics' claims that she did not meet her expectations and to soften the loss. I dont see him doing that for other cadidates. I think Putting Edwards on tonight was a reaction from criticism from the blue blogs. There are some Obama and Edwards supporters who are pretty angry at KO.

"Did you watch MSNBC's election coverage last night?"

Absolutely....I did!

The ONLY thing I saw that might have suggested such a bias was his mentioning several times that the margin of Obama's victory among Democrats was far less than the toal margin. I understand that some may have taken this as a pro-Clinton spin.

HOWEVER, one of his jobs last night as the lead host was to present obscure statistics, in which he presented many others as well over the course of the evening.

I can assure you that as a regular watcher of Countdown, and an "anybody but Hillary" democrat, I would have been highly annoyed, at the very least, if I had detected consistant pro - Clinton bias from the man.

Mike, I think in the John Gibson audio J$ provided on another thread, Olbermann is "discounting" Iowa---just like Clinton had to do when her camp realized that she unlikely to win. I think he is aligned with her talking points.

I have not seen tonights show yet, BUT, by having ONLY Edwards on, Olbermann solves his Daily Kos problem, AND he can "pimp" Edwards, which we all know, helps Clinton with her "Obama" problem. As you know, Edwards & Obama are splitting the majority of the anit-Clinton vote. Edwards does not have the money (or charisma) for the long haul. Trust me, this is a "win" "win" for Olbermann. Talking about Obama's historic win is NOT the same as actually having him/his representative there.

Pundit, What you are any of the other advocates of KO's 'Hillary pushing' is exactly WHY an outspoken ANTI Iraq War pundit would actively favor a wishy washy PRO - Iraq War establishment candidate over the rock steady ANTI Iraq War candidate?

Like I said, I watch the show regularly, and I haven't seen it.

Mike - maybe you need new glasses? or an objective point of view? Or maybe you need to sit somewhere outside the Olbypologist reserved seating area? It's there. I see it and I'm not looking for it.

hmmm...
Olbermann went back to being unbiased towards the Democrats on his show. I don't know, I guess last night just wasn't good to him.

Olbermann just apologized for the Gravel incident, and blamed it on someone at the news desk. I guess that's really all he could do. He didn't just pull it out of thin air, but someone didn't do a thorough fact-finding job at the NEWS channel.

Posted by: at January 4, 2008 9:06 PM

It most likely was an error from the news desk. Honestly, he wouldn't have time to make it up when he was live and the screen even cut to tape of Gravel's speech.

I believe it was an error but a top-notch news organization may not have made such a mistake. There have been some staff cuts at MSNBC and thee budget cuts might be coming back to bite the news organization. If you make errors on the news how can you be trusted.

I believe it was an error but a top-notch news organization may not have made such a mistake. There have been some staff cuts at MSNBC and thee budget cuts might be coming back to bite the news organization. If you make errors on the news how can you be trusted.

Posted by: at January 4, 2008 11:47 PM

Yeah, maybe we should start by pointing the finger at Fox News.

Olby's not the only one shilling for Hillary- The Leprechaun is shilling hard for he as well! I can't even watch the Leprechaun's show anymore- he's to the left of Olby!!!

"Mike, maybe you need new glasses, or an objective point of view."

I guess you missed the point about how I am an unabashed Obama supporter myself and would have been offended myself if I had detected any obvious pro-clinton bias.

You say you're not "looking for it", but I say you must be, because I say it's not there!

Who is the Leprechaun?

Thanks,

Grammie

"Who is the leprechaun?"

10:1 odds he is referring to Chris Mathews.

Wasted.....listen to Edwards, Kucinich, Clinton...they are NEGATIVE...their speeches are anti-this, this group is doing that, you are in trouble.....fear, fear, fear......

Obama's tact is hopeful....

So is Huckabee's (I don't care for him but if you listen to his speech Thursday night it was hopeful)....

McCain's stump speeches are also positive and rarely attack others....

The anti-American left is against core American institutions like free markets and private property....they must maintain a fear-filled NEGATIVE attack stance in order to advance their radical agenda.....

The republicans tend not to, and this is because basic American principles of freedom in markets and private ownership are valued aspects of our culture.

Senator Obama is a fresh new candidate that is not the typical leftist...thank goodness. I disagree with him on much of his ideology, but at least the man is genuine and seeking healing in our partisan torn nation.....thank you shrill selfish hacks like Pelosi, Reid and Clinton!

Please Wasted...to try to defend Olbermann at this juncture is sad....his off the cuff behavior Thrusday night was clear evidence of his agenda....Friday's scripted COUNTDOWN and his half apology with excuses over the Gravel error was also a pathetic showing.....he will try to salvage his image as the criticisms come in about his Democratic Party Establishment bias and his love of all things Clinton Co.....he still has no credibility as a journalist.

Please continue to ignore my red hot prediction in January 2007 that 2008 would still see President Bush continue his Iraq War policy fully supported by the new congress...That the left's ruling class would not end the war as they promised the voters in 2006 and that the election would see Iraq as a nonissue because of the successes to come.....

Oh well.....the democrats just can't seem to get it right......Call a war lost, immoral and making us less safe but funding it then stop mentioning it because the "issue" seems not to be a winner?!?!....What great leadership!

One show for years of bias and propaganda?....Yeah Wasted....lets shut down OW right now....Olbermann has reformed!

What a joke....The man is not stupid.....he knows his image was tarnished during the Iowa coverage and he will play it safe for now....he has no credibility however when it comes to covering Clinton because of his previous behavior and his blatent showing Thursday night....He knows it and will attempt rehab....

And we will see if his ratings reflect his mistakes......

Then again, he can just compose yet another entertaining SPECIAL COMMENT to stir the pot a bit.....

Oh, and when he reported that Gravel was shutting down his campaign, did he mention his source for the information like he did during the lengthy half apology/excuse ridden retraction?

Please...the man is not journalist....he is a pundit and shill for the left.

Pundit, What you are any of the other advocates of KO's 'Hillary pushing' is exactly WHY an outspoken ANTI Iraq War pundit would actively favor a wishy washy PRO - Iraq War establishment candidate over the rock steady ANTI Iraq War candidate?
Like I said, I watch the show regularly, and I haven't seen it.
Posted by: Mike at January 4, 2008 11:20 PM

Mike, I finally got to watch Countdown and was glad Edwards was there to stop Olbermann's Hillary spin. Edwards diagreed with every question Olbermann posed. Edwards was great, he did not give an inch.

The fact that Olbermann brought up the "Iowa was not important" was right out the Hillary taking points playbook. He did this directly and by challanging Edwards to say that the turn out was the big story (right from Hillary's speech caucus night). Thankfully Edwards refused to bite. He also pimped the Hillary talking point (already in full steam) as her being the "comback kid" just like Bill in 92. I believe the Countdown screen said "Hillary Comeback" Or Hillary comeback kid" Let us not forget that Bill was ahead in NH but came in 8 points in second place. Hillary IS ahead now in the NH polls.

So in terms of Clinton bias, Olbermann used two of her talking points in last nights show alone.

As for why he would support an pro-war candidate, I am not sure. But lately the war has not been given a lot or any news time on Countdown. Not bringing up the war only helps Clinton, I think you would agree with me on that.

Olbermann, like the rest of the establishment democrats, only is vocally anti-war when it suits his selfish ambitions.....

Clinton is anti-war now.....she has stated the troops would be withdrawn under her administration....to claim she supports the Iraqi against Al Queda is laughable.

She flip-flopped, just like Edwards did.....

Big deal....not what I would call a great attribute to a leader....solve the problem at hand....don't wring your hands and live over regrets....learn and take responsibility to solve the problems and challenges that one faces.

I did not predict the '06 race.....in fact I was surprised the republicans did as well as they did considering history of the party in power and the mood of the country.....I was glad the country did not embrace the lunatic fringe left and we still had great leaders like Joe Lieberman representing the real voice of American in the Senate!

No, no, wasted....The claim that there was a huge shift in ideology in the country in '06 was an over-reach.....Those that claimed the country was crying for immediate withdrawl and a reversal of Bush's foreign policy were and are st