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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    January 8, 2008
    New Hampshire Primary - OPEN THREAD

    Update [J$]: First Olbermann Lie of the primary coverage has been spotted. CNN and FNC declared Hillary Clinton the winner at 10:46 and 10:47, just as Senator Obama was about to begin his speech. But the infamous, deplorable Keith Olbermann has to attack his competition, even if it means making it up on the spot:

    Two cable news networks actually predicted this outcome after Sen. Obama conceded.

    Posted by Robert Cox | Permalink | Comments (208) | | View blog reactions

    208 Comments

    have at it!

    Moron paranoid olbyloons!

    I'm watching Olby now- you can tell that Cliton's lead has him in a panic. Oh I'm sure he'll try to get back on her good-side if she wins but do you think that a Clinton ever forgets?

    Oh no Olbermann!!! Clinton might be back in NH. You might have stabbed her in the back too soon. Get you knee pads on Olbermann.

    Prepare to reap the whirlwind, Keithy.

    I would love to see her win in NH just to see all the left wing media hacks crawl back to her with hat in hand. Bubba blasted Obamanation yesterday. Could that have help?

    Oh how she will make Keith pay- You can hear it in his voice and see it in his face- you just know he's thinking:"I f-ed up bigtime.

    As I said last night, Olby pre-maturely ejaculated over Obama mania....and threw Hillary under the bus.

    GO HILLARY.......only for that reason alone.

    No more blue-dress interviews of the Clinton's for Keith.

    Huckabee angling for a VEEP slot...I think McCain will choose Lindsey Graham....

    Huckabee's fire wall is South Carolina

    Olby, you'll need to write at least one reeeeally BIG check for on-air presentation to the Clintons because you betrayed Hillary. Did you really think the Clinton mafia had even begun their rampage? We have yet to see their wrath. They will make you pay dearly for this, Orange One. Don't say we didn't warn you.

    Ah, the Dem race is too close to call. I bet Obama Hussein didn't see that coming. Let's see if the landslide victory pans out.

    I wonder how many times Edward R has made the War Hero and Rebublican front-runner John McCain WPITW?

    When Olby is on his deathbead, just about everyone will deplore hime.

    Throwing people under the bus is nothing new to Olby.

    L.F.

    GO HILLARY.......only for that reason alone.

    Posted by: The Artist FNA at January 8, 2008 9:35 PM


    You beat me to it, I would give anything to see Hillary smoke obama in NH for the same reason. Also, it would be comedy gold to see the olbyloons flop right back to the hillary camp!
    TDF!!!!(*)-----(+)----

    Is there some subliminal beeping noise on MSLSD???

    They have Brokaw providing commentary out in the bullpen.

    They have Brokaw providing commentary out in the bullpen.

    Posted by: Does Anybody Remember Laughter? at January 8, 2008 10:16 PM


    Get it right, it's 'brokejaw.' The olbyloons love to point out typos!

    Fineman just predicted a recession

    KO threw the Hill under the bus too soon...now watch him crawl back to her Wednesday..while at the same time bashing McCain.

    Olbermann said that Hillary sounded like the EVIL Karl Rove when she talked about the dangers of "terrorism". How does Keith spin that if she wins? Did her tuff talk on terrorism help her win NH? Oh I can hear Olbermann spinning know. Get that bath tub ready.

    Well, the best thing to come out of this tonight is that everyone at MSNBC has NO IDEA what the hell they're talking about (much like Mike on this board). They've gone from writing Hillary off to reembracing her "comeback". Could these people, particularly Matthews and Olby, be any more phony?

    Brokaw must be looking on with disgust for these clowns at the anchor desk.

    Who will the ambulance chaser/slip and fall lawyer’s votes go to? It is safe to say that he hates the Clinton camp and probably wants the VP nod from Obamanation.

    Rachael Maddow is an idiot.

    Ah, the Dem race is too close to call. I bet Obama Hussein didn't see that coming. Let's see if the landslide victory pans out.

    Posted by: at January 8, 2008 10:03 PM

    ---

    Thanks, Jeff!

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at January 8, 2008 10:37 PM


    0 for 2 , philby.

    Now the slip and fall lawyer can go take care of his bastard child.

    If Obama ever had a BIMBO, now is the time for the Clinton operatives does what they do best.....

    A Bimbo scandal will snuff out all hope.

    Obama...thinks he's MLK

    Gosh Fred Thompson did good everybody didn't he? What a horse you picked Rk. Of course I'm sure some of the mares in your stable are a little bit envious.

    Where's your horse, cowy? Oh, that's right, you don't have one. Still got your pinky in the air with the rest of the loons.

    "Where's your horse, cowy?"

    As far away from a sexual deviant like you as I can get him.

    I fuckin' hate that dyke, Hillary. If Keith does too, good for him!

    Ron Paul is the man!

    Well, I guess we'll see the more feminine Hillary....ready to tear up, mixed with some occasional 9/11 Hillary warning her party that we all need someone to protect us from the dirty Islamic bogeyman.....

    This is going to be fun....I thought I was going to enjoy it it all with NH and see Hillary go down in flames quickly.....oh well, it must be my generation's tendency for immediate gratification.....

    I was wrong....we all get to see Hillary and Obama gyrate with experience keeping us from another 9/11 to "change......" to I reeeeally love this country and, sniff, sniff, know we have to save it from the abyss to I know what I'll do THE SECOND my hand lifts off that bible to I'll think of YOU every morning I get up......

    Oh yeah....pandering to the democrat voter....it will be a good thing....not as good as Hillary's pasture speech.....but second ain't bad....

    And we also get to see Olbermann be confused on who to attack depending on who may win....he has to protect his dream of the townhouse in Georgetown with limo service every morning and cocktails in the evening.

    Yep...a tough, dirty and character eroding campaign on the democratic side is also a plus politically.....I forgot that gem as well....

    The establishment candidate and her supporters will have the knives out for the young, good looking guy ready to take over....the geriatric crowd verses the new generation....ah, the possibilities!

    Oh and I forgot....now my wife can plan on participating 2/5....she's a registered democrat here in NJ from her teacher union days (oh the lovely NEA).....She is an "anyone but Hillary" gal....So we get to go as a couple and participate in the primary processes......what a joyous day!.....We'll go to the Broadway Diner afterward for some Taylor Ham and eggs......mmmm, mmmm.

    Put yesterday in with the bin of bad days. Like the day they renewed Olbermann's contract even though his ratings are consistantly in the toilet.

    So some pundits think that women came out in droves to vote for Hillary. They were motivated by her anxiety, and cast a sympathy vote. Somewhere Susan B Anthony is rolling in her grave asking "what have I done?"

    Anyone but Hillary in 2008

    Phony Soldier wrote: "The biggest racists in this country today are liberals."

    No doubt about it. My liberal friends brag about their city's "racial diversity" from their gated communities.

    EXIT POLLS: Clinton got the 'sympathy vote'

    People- if you are gonna pull the lever because you feel sorry for the candidate... don't go to the booth! This isn't Dancing With The Stars you idiots. A vote for Marie Osmand becuase she looks awkward is nice. But voting for a presidential candidate because he or she cried- you are missing brain cells.

    Anon....where did that headline come from?....I have read that some are speculating HRC's 2 day's on ACCESS HOLLYWOOD discussing her feelings, worries about her weight and more personal issues made her more sympathetic to women voters, especially older women....but that is all I have found.

    Your worry is wll placed....This election is for a very important position in the US federal government and voting based on personal feelings and reactions to emotional appeals makes one pause....but I suppose that is what we are going to see on the democrat side and the adults will just have to wait their turn....

    The simple fact that HRC has such high negatives yet garners such support among the party establishment also bodes poorly for the process.

    Let us not forget how powerful the left's ruling elite still is and their candidate, HRC, has their support.....Like I said....look out for them knives!

    Even the affable adulterous sodomite, former President Bill Clinton, was showing his fangs the last 72 hours....this is going to be fun to watch.

    The talk is that Hill's supporters are going to form a 527 to run attack ads against Obama. That way it won't look like SHE is attacking him, but a third party-a la the swiftboat campaign from 2004. Another rumor had James Carvelle heading up that planned 527.

    South Carolina's Republican & Dem primaries are being held on seperate dates-50% of the vote there is African-American. They love Clinton down there but Obama appeared with Oprah in SC so who knows how that will wind up.

    On the GOP side, Huckabee had a former SC governor at his side last night and there are a lot of evangelicals in that state that just might give him another win. The evangelicals have some issues with Romney's religion and they've already rejected McCain once in '04. They don't like his stand on immigration and Lindsey Graham isn't exactly popular in his own state so I don't think McCain would pick him as a VP if he were to win the nomination-a cabinet position yes, VP, probably not.

    Olbermann was Olbermann. No credibility. Sucking up to whichever Dem candidate happened to be on top. When he thought Obama was going to win the NH vote, he went off on HRC on his broadcast the night before. Last night he came crawling back. He sticks his finger in the wind to figure out which side he needs to kiss up to. He and Matthews are horrible together. You don't need two people on the same set who suck out all the oxygen in the room solo.

    One more thing: Goldman Sachs has issued an economic forecast which forsees a recession in the U.S. The expectation is that stocks and futures will fall based upon that prediction.

    Did anyone catch the spineless fuck when Delay was on last night. He hid under his fucking desk while Matthews asked him all the ?'s. Didn't say a friggin word. As soon as Delay was off the air, Olberdouche pops up to skewer him. What a despicable, ballsless, dickhead. How can ANYONE take this fraud seriously?

    eddie b, I have asked the same question multiple times. The olbyloons have yet to come up with a viable defense. How do you defend the defenseless?

    Give Olbermann some credit, he finally took a stand and showed some of the UGLY truth about Hillary.

    As for election, Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at January 9, 2008 10:49 AM , I totally agree. I would go even further to say the Repubs voted for Hillary because they want her to be the nominee. Fox News was creaming themselves this morning. Ari Fleisher said it exactly, 'we want VERY badly to run against Hillary, we know we don't have a chance against Obama' --- no exact words, but the essence.

    The phenomenon is more in the nature of "I want to prove to myself that I am not a person who makes decisions based upon race, so I am going to vote for the African-American candidate." This phenomenon is strong during the polling/pre-voting process, but is diluted once people get to the polls. Wilder, as I recall, believed that if he wanted to win, he needed to be polling at least 4 points ahead of his opponent, because he was going to lose at least 3 points. As I said, it is a theory, only, but one which seems to be borne out.
    Posted by: January 9, 2008 10:49 AM

    Matthews said something to the effect that there are no Archie Bunkers on the other end of the phone during the polling process. It seems he is stating that there are people who would never vote Obama because of race but hide the Archie Bunker persona. I would have to think further on the idea before buying into the dilution theory above, but something happened with the polling. Blow-harding notwithstanding, Matthews is right that there is a story needing investigating because every pollster had it wrong and there was so little time that elapsed between the projection of Obama's victory and HRC's rise. I didn't catch anything Keith-O theorized.

    Cee's discussion of the emotive Hillary drawing in the female votes is interesting as well. D. Morris had been stating previously that she will draw women out of the woodwork. It's hard to believe it would be merely for sympathy.

    From Men's Journal, Feb 08 issue (on newsstands now):

    Keith Olbermann interview:

    MJ: You thank your girlfriend in your last book. Any plans to get married?

    KO: At some point. She's starting her career, so it's not a practical issue today. I will be both the children's father and grandfather. It will be the perfect setup.

    Interesting point from Rusty at the Jawa Report: (in brief)

    The Second Place Strategy: Romney Still in Lead With Second Show

    So here's the delegate tally, assuming the polling numbers are correct, after today's primary:

    Romney: 29 (assuming 3 delegate pickup)
    Huckabee: 21 (assuming 1)
    McCain: 9 (assuming 6)
    Thompson: 6 (assuming 0--Fred is last in polls in NH)
    Paul: 3 (assuming 1)
    Giuliani: 2 (assuming 1)

    I am not about the sympathy vote for Hillary, Sharon...I just mentioned it as I have been reading about the various explainations I had read this morning.

    Rassmussen was just interviewed on the John Gambling show here in NY....He is realy perplexed because his poll had Obama up 10 points, then 7 points (he did note the downward trend for Obama). He also said he does believe that many do say one thing to pollsters then change their mind once face with the choices in the booth....Also, he said that the contrarian movement..."let's show those pollsters are wrong," with an open primary is another case for the difference...but he is still withholding judgement.

    I still believe that HRC being the establishment candidate makes her the W of 2008 and we will see similar tactics as this process goes on....the problem is Obama is a much stronger candidate than McCain was and she has to be careful about the attacks....she will make her negatives go even higher among nondemocrats and if she gets the nomination, she will be a very weakened candidate.

    I still do not think the dems are so dumb as to nominate her....she will have a very difficult time in the general election with her negatives being so high and she is seen as a divisive candidate. But like I said last week, there is a long time until 11/08....

    Cee's discussion of the emotive Hillary drawing in the female votes is interesting as well. D. Morris had been stating previously that she will draw women out of the woodwork. It's hard to believe it would be merely for sympathy.

    Posted by: Sharon at January 9, 2008 12:02 PM

    I agree with Chris Matthews (as you paraphrased him) to a point and agree more readily with the statements A N O N Y M O U S has made.

    There was a racial (as contrasted with "racist") component to the results of the polling.

    Unfortunately, I think Matthews' allusion to Archie Bunker is the sort of thing that causes so many people to feel the need to prove their bona fides (I'm tolerant and open-minded. I'm going to vote for a black man) and lie to a pollster.

    I am not about the sympathy vote for Hillary, Sharon...I just mentioned it as I have been reading about the various explainations I had read this morning.

    Sorry, Cee. I didn't mean to imply that was your position.

    The problem I am having with the "having to prove myself" is the speed at which it happened. It seems to me that Iowans would have polled similarly if that were the case, unless the phenomenon is limited to certain parts of the country.

    Maybe Romney will end up with the most delegates with a different star rising at each primary, as long as keeps up the silver.

    The fact of the matter is ANON is that he take's himself so seriously. The fact that he associates himself to E. r. Murrow as opposed to say, Jon Stewart or Colbert, (or Bozo the Clown) is what gets me going. His whole "act" is like an SNL skit. If he ever came out and stated the obvious, that his whole schtick was a scam on us Repubs, that would be one thing. But he seriously believes he's respected. If HE believes it, that's all that really matters.

    Cee's discussion of the emotive Hillary drawing in the female votes is interesting as well. D. Morris had been stating previously that she will draw women out of the woodwork. It's hard to believe it would be merely for sympathy.

    Posted by: Sharon at January 9, 2008 12:02 PM

    Maybe it wasn't' sympathy but a reaction to how Hillary's faltering caused so much glee in the conservative community.

    I frankly think she's a better national candidate than Obama would be, but it could be that among the folks who don't think that, some of them were a bit put out with all the schadenfreude on the right and decided to back her.

    It's not like they haven't acted similarly before by backing her odious husband more out of hatred for his opponents than respect for him.

    If they had acted differently then and demanded his resignation, Gore would have been a shoe-in in '00 and possibly been re-elected in '04 as well.

    Muse you can use... :D

    No apology necessary, Sharon....I was just clarifying the one theory....Another thing Rassmussen said was the lower turnout of younger voters compared to older voters in NH versus Iowa....Iowa saw much more people under 30 turn out and this helped Obama....Also, I think NH is a bit more typical of the dem establishment and was well behind Hillary as opposed to Iowa which has many more variables going on in those caucus precincts.

    The race theory?....I dunno, perhaps but again democrat and liberal minded independents that would lean toward Hillary in the first place do not seem the type to have a problem saying they were Obama voters if that was their final, true decision....

    The problem I am having with the "having to prove myself" is the speed at which it happened. It seems to me that Iowans would have polled similarly if that were the case, unless the phenomenon is limited to certain parts of the country.

    Posted by: Sharon at January 9, 2008 12:29 PM

    Well, I'm not sure what you mean by "polled similarly", but let's not forget that Obama and Clinton were neck-n-neck in NH.

    It could be that Iowans felt they needed to do more than talk (lie to pollsters)-- they had something to prove.

    I remember being a little amazed throughout the process when the media seemed to have come to the foregone conclusion that Obama didn't have a snowball's chance in Iowa because it's lily white there...don't ya know...

    As to the polling discrepancy, five days later in NH, it could that folks felt like a simple lie to pollsters was all that was needed to prove themselves... :D

    MJ: You thank your girlfriend in your last book. Any plans to get married?
    KO: At some point. She's starting her career, so it's not a practical issue today. I will be both the children's father and grandfather. It will be the perfect setup.
    Posted by: news you can use at January 9, 2008 12:04 PM

    Does anyone find that just a tad disturbing, being a father & grampa at once? kinda creepy...

    What you don't understand, Eddie B. and Jeff, is that liberals don't take him (orangy) seriously.

    posted by philby

    Philby, you are dead wrong. One example would be mike. You take him serious, as well. You aren't honest enough to admit it, though.

    or perhaps, boyfriend and father...creeeepy

    I feel a little depressed with the Hillary win. The Fox News folks could hardly contain their glee. They want a Hillary nomination so badly. Depending on the candidate, I think they would win. But, then again, they should be careful what they wish for.

    The nutroots are blaming the EVIL Diebold again for Hillary's win. I wonder what moon beams flooded their tin foil hats and convinced them Diebold is working for Hillary now. I guess Keith won't be using democrats-underrocks.com tonight.
    http://cadillactight.wordpress.com/2008/01/08/democratic-underground-its-diebold-again/

    I just saw the story on Democratic Underground as well, Factor....wow...Diebold is working for Hillary because she will lose to the Republicans!.....oh my....a double/double cross I guess.

    Well, you have to hand it to them, the fringe left is consistent...."They stole the election" was used twice before against the republican winners....now they think HRC is on the take....

    Like I said....wow.

    Like I said....wow.

    Posted by: cee at January 9, 2008 1:43 PM

    Has anyone checked if Hillary is a Freemason? Was there a chapter of Skull and Bones for girls at Wellesley?

    Cecelia @ 12:37 PM:...."It's not like they haven't acted similarly before backing her odious husband more out of hatred for his opponents than respect for him."

    Thus we have may the very same phenomena being played out from the left as we have observed continually from the right, regarding their knee jerk defenses of the otherwise indefensible current president.

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at January 9, 2008 2:07 PM

    Last time I check, Keith Olbermann uses democratunderground as one of his sources for "news". Your theory about these posters being Paul-Bots might hold some water but only in the fact that many Paul-Bots are disenfranchised liberals.

    Well, I'm not sure what you mean by "polled similarly", but let's not forget that Obama and Clinton were neck-n-neck in NH.

    Is polling any different in Iowa than in NH that would lead people to say Obama but mean HRC? I don't discount that the outcome was very close, but it was projected to be a strong win for Obama only hours before.

    Has anyone checked if Hillary is a Freemason? Was there a chapter of Skull and Bones for girls at Wellesley?

    Posted by: The Factor at January 9, 2008 1:51 PM


    Not sure, but, she was very closely tied to the black panthers. Such a nice group of folks.....

    Anonymous asked if the Goldman Sacs prediction wasn't a self-fufilling prophecy. I don't think so. Oil prices are at record levels, major retailers have reported disappointing sales in December, there's a mortgage crisis, AT&T reported they were going to have a big write-off due to unpaid phone bills, so it should come as no shock that a recession is possible. All the major indicators seem to be pointing in that direction.

    Whatever, Jeff .... You're boring me with your drivel.

    Ah! How the overly obnoxious one known as Anonymous blabbers on and on. The pontificating never ceases along with the most incessent stream of lies that I find myself reading them twice to assure that I haven't read them wrong the first time.

    Has this "man" ever been in the real world? Has he ever been to a black neighborhood outside of passing by in his limo entertaining his out of town friends expressing how he can relate to his "brothers?"

    The only racism and sexism I've ever seen on this site is usually brought up first by the "worldly" one known as anonymous, and then it's always based on the fact that HE and only HE knows how whites and male "pigs" think.

    Well, my little twister of all facts, when it comes to racism and sexism who do you think is voting for whom?

    Come clean for once in your life and admit what we all know about who is voting for whom and to who the true racists and sexists are, as it is pretty clear from what I've read through all your posts that you may be the most clueless human being on this planet.

    What is the ratio of blacks voting for Obama, and the ratio of women voting for Clinton? The true racists and sexists you will find in the answer to that question, as anybody who has actually lived in America would be able to tell you.

    The rest of America will undoubtedly vote for who they think is the best candidate, but fortunately for me the racism and sexism vote will knock any rebublican candidate out of the picture, which will make my plans of terror easier to achieve.

    Allah help me as I wouldn't stand a chance if all the Americans in your country thought like royal king, as his debates with you have proven over and over again to how weak and uninformed you are while he shines with every comment.

    It is truly a sad statement for my cause that he fights for the other side, but then again there are many more like you that do me proud!

    Akuba! Ayeee!!!!

    How do you expect RK to do that? That would reqire him to understand the question being asked.

    Posted by: at January 9, 2008 2:42 PM


    Thanks, 'why!'

    I spoke with one of my clients in Muzaffarabad yesterday, and he tells me your mother has stopped fornicating with pigs. Surely, that can't be true?

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at January 9, 2008 2:54 PM

    I "heart" A N O M Y M O U S :)

    I spoke with one of my clients in Muzaffarabad yesterday, and he tells me your mother has stopped fornicating with pigs. Surely, that can't be true?

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at January 9, 2008 2:54 PM

    Yes, aren't we all and don't we all? Give him my best next time you're in the barn.

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at January 9, 2008 2:57 PM


    The intelligence just ooooooozes from philby, doesn't it?

    Yes, my fake Osama I have said that he is a good American unlike you, and it is to those who think like him that have caused me the most harm and to who I fear the most.

    Those who think like you I have in my back pocket and have served me well as all traitors will do. Good Americans from what I've read on this site, are becoming more rare, and for that I have to thank the most unAmerican of them all my biggest cell Mr. Olbermann!

    Akuba! Ayeee!!!

    0 for 7,564

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at January 9, 2008 3:01 PM


    Proof? Nope....

    What is the ratio of blacks voting for Obama, and the ratio of women voting for Clinton? The true racists and sexists you will find in the answer to that question, as anybody who has actually lived in America would be able to tell you.

    The rest of America will undoubtedly vote for who they think is the best candidate, but fortunately for me the racism and sexism vote will knock any rebublican candidate out of the picture, which will make my plans of terror easier to achieve.

    posted by obl

    Very good points. Don't expect philby to address them, though.

    Like I was saying, don't expect the 'know it all' philby to address valid points. She can't.

    I spoke with one of my clients in Muzaffarabad yesterday, and he tells me your mother has stopped fornicating with pigs. Surely, that can't be true?

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at January 9, 2008 2:54 PM

    Yes she has my little follower, but she said only because you called "next!" in which you proceeded to do things with that pig that she didn't know was possible!

    Of course I let her know afterwards that your fortay was usually heffers, but that you had a lot of practice with pigs since you got married.

    Akuba! Ayeee!!!!

    Yes, I praise those I think willl help my cause. I have praised RK for this reason. I wish to bleed America in a stupid war. RK and his ilk help me with that.

    Posted by: Osama bin laden at January 9, 2008 3:30 PM

    Phony Phony Sol...eh... phony phony Osama bin laden, you underestimate yourself.

    You don't need any help...

    Akuba! Ayeee!!!!

    Ah! He waits patiently for months waiting for one incorrect spelling, and then proceeds to pontificate about what a smart man he is.

    I am laughing so hard now waiting for the time for my next attack on your weak country knowing full well that it is women like you who will defend it with harsh words.

    You truly are one little fairy who surrounds himself with women pigs shitting on his country, while the rest of the men in it prepare to fight for it.

    Allah has blessed me with women like you who continue to further my cause, and for that anonymous I will forever thank you.

    Traiters like you are one in a million, and you should be proud!

    Akuba! Ayeee!!!!

    Don't worry, Jeff. Mike might be able to find your address,

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at January 9, 2008 3:25 PM

    Is that some sort of threat there?

    Now, I know OBL and Jeff are one and the same. No one else would use "fortay" for "forté". What a moron!

    posted by philby

    Want to bet 10 grand? I could always use the money. Not that I think you are a person of your word and would make good on a bet, though....

    Here was an interesting exchange at 2:20 PM:

    1) - An anonymous poster quoting Factor: "Last time I check, Keith Olbermann uses Democratunderground as one of his sources for "news"."

    2) - The replay by the anonymous poster: "I have never seen convincing evidence of this. All I have seen is the smae stor appearing with Keith and the Democratic underground. However, correlation does not equal causation. Do you have some other ifo I am not aware of?"

    Anon, the mistake you are making here is in attempting to have a rational discussion with an irrational poster.

    The poster you replied to, known as "Factor", has stated that he has never watched Countdown on this very blogboard.

    Have you ever in your life met an expert on ANYTHING who has never even read, viewed, or objectively studied the material he professes to be an expert in?

    So why should a Keith Olbermann critic be judged any differently?

    Don't worry, Jeff. Mike might be able to find your address,

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at January 9, 2008 3:25 PM

    Is that some sort of threat there?

    Posted by: Cecelia at January 9, 2008 3:54 PM


    Yes, mike spent who knows how many hours a week ago trying to track me down after I re posted some of his idiocy. He found one of my old websites containing a stallion I sold a while back. Desperate? Indeed. Remember when phony soldier or McCool was bantering mike a while back and he cried like a baby and threatened to turn him in for cyber stalking? Too funny!

    Debunking philby. These posts were made at the same time, fool. Explain that, ok?

    Yes, my fake Osama I have said that he is a good American unlike you, and it is to those who think like him that have caused me the most harm and to who I fear the most.

    Those who think like you I have in my back pocket and have served me well as all traitors will do. Good Americans from what I've read on this site, are becoming more rare, and for that I have to thank the most unAmerican of them all my biggest cell Mr. Olbermann!

    Akuba! Ayeee!!!

    Posted by: Osama Bin Laden at January 9, 2008 3:03 PM
    0 for 7,564

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at January 9, 2008 3:01 PM


    Proof? Nope....

    Posted by: royal king at January 9, 2008 3:03 PM


    RK: Yes, mike spent who knows how many hours a week ago trying to track me down"

    Uh...wrong again. I spent exactly 5 minutes using the magic of Google combined with information you had already supplied to everyone on this blog.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    RK: "He found one of my old websits containing a stallion a while back, desperate?"

    Uh....hardly. I was highlighting your own legendary idiocy of excusing yourself for blogboard name changing at the 'advice' of a so called 'lawyer'....who you allege would have been so incredibly stupid as to advise you to change from your real name on an internat blogboard, .... to the name of a horse that could easily be looked up on the internet by anyone.....all in the name of hiding your identity.

    It just doesn't get any stupider than that!!

    And Now we all know you REALLY are a real person, and not a left wing shill planted on this blog just to make right wingers look bad.


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    RK: "Remember when Phony Soldier or McCool was bantering mike a while back and he cried like a baby and threatened to turn him in for cyber stalking. Too funny!"

    Nope!....And neither do you....Because you just made that up right now, and nothing of the sort ever happened.

    Have you ever in your life met an expert on ANYTHING who has never even read, viewed, or objectively studied the material he professes to be an expert in?

    So why should a Keith Olbermann critic be judged any differently?

    Posted by: Mike at January 9, 2008 4:02 PM


    Did The Factor claim to be an "expert?" Please re post where he makes the claim.

    The poster you replied to, known as "Factor", has stated that he has never watched Countdown on this very blogboard.

    Have you ever in your life met an expert on ANYTHING who has never even read, viewed, or objectively studied the material he professes to be an expert in?

    So why should a Keith Olbermann critic be judged any differently?

    Posted by: Mike at January 9, 2008 4:02 PM

    This very blog has many examples of Keith using democratic-underground as source material for his "news program". Check some of the nightly recaps. Again I ask you Mike, how many times have you attacked Bill O'Reilly, Fox News, and Rush Limbaugh without watching/listening to them objectively? When did I ever claim to be an expert on Keith Olbermann? I simply read the recaps on this blog. If you think recap on this blog is full of lies, point them out.

    Yes, mike spent who knows how many hours a week ago trying to track me down after I re posted some of his idiocy. He found one of my old websites containing a stallion I sold a while back. Desperate? Indeed. Remember when phony soldier or McCool was bantering mike a while back and he cried like a baby and threatened to turn him in for cyber stalking? Too funny!

    Posted by: royal king at January 9, 2008 4:02 PM

    Are you serious!

    Cecelia: "Are you serious?"

    Check out 4:22 Cecelia......It will tell you all you need to know.

    Are you serious!

    Posted by: Cecelia at January 9, 2008 4:40 PM


    Serious...

    Another think Cecelia, I didn't 'out' Jeff at all. I simply put a code number of 51.56% in a couple of responses that would have made NO sense whatsoever to anyone but him.

    HE then decided to personally verify the information by reacting to it.

    And THAT is the kind of stupidity that you have willingly chosen to align yourself with.

    I found this gem in the COUNTDOWN transcript from Monday, 1/7/08 in reference to the NH primary prognostications....

    "OLBERMANN: Are other candidates‘ desperation levels an indicator of John Edwards, of whom I have the greatest possible respect—comes on this show last Friday, wouldn‘t even acknowledge for a second that the turnout for the Democrats in Iowa was a huge story—couldn‘t turn the message off for 15 seconds. Today, Hillary Clinton, for whom I have the greatest possible respect, gets all emotional, a sentence later, attacking Obama and crying, by the way, which, after Ed Muskie, what Democrat cries in New Hampshire? But then, Edwards criticizes her for crying and she makes this weird Martin Luther King-LBJ analogy. And then lastly, she might as well quoted Rudy Giuliani from this Karl Rove 'Only I Can Really Keep You Safe' handbook. Just how they are reacting tell us better than polls or anything else just how early it has gotten late out there?

    "TODD: Correct. I mean, I think, body language is everything. When I said I felt like the New Hampshire primary ended yesterday on the Democratic side, that is what I meant. As you could see it in the body language. Joe Trippi today told one of our producers who crawl, who‘s on that 36-hour marathon, you know, their attitude at this point is like, 'Look, Obama is a bullet. He is a speeding bullet. Get out of the way.'"

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22558135/


    ###
    Yeah, these two braniacs, along with Alter and Shuster, really showed their prowess and ability to group think.....These are supposed to be the best MSNBC can provide to give information and perspective?

    And then Olbermann's and Matthew's performaces last night were just as on target.....

    I think it is time for MSNBC to go back to replays of Brian William's broadcast, Phil D. and/or repeats of pedophile stings.

    Keep digging your hole, mike.

    Another think Cecelia, I didn't 'out' Jeff at all. I simply put a code number of 51.56% in a couple of responses that would have made NO sense whatsoever to anyone but him.

    HE then decided to personally verify the information by reacting to it.

    And THAT is the kind of stupidity that you have willingly chosen to align yourself with.

    Posted by: Mike at January 9, 2008 4:51 PM


    Only you could turn what was very likely an attempt to intimidate someone (I know where you live) into something that is their fault!

    to the name of a horse that could easily be looked up on the internet by anyone.....all in the name of hiding your identity


    posted by mike

    Correction, not "anyone." Only a disgruntled olbyloon/psycho.

    Cecelia: "Only you turn what was very likely an attempt to intimidate someone (I know where you live) into something that was theri fault."

    And only YOU could spin something that clearly WAS, in fact, THEIR fault, into either a defense for them, or an offense against me (I haven't really decided which).

    Don't tell me you don't know the history here of RK jumping on name changing, both real and imagined.....But then when he is called on it for doing it himself, he posts some cock and bull story about how a LAWYER has advised him to protect his identity by virtually identifying himself.

    And you act SURPRISED when someone actually calls him on the irony of it all?

    I am sure 20 or 30 other people here have done the same thing. Unintentional. Maybe 4 or 5 clicks. Bingo. If one were trying to remain anonymous, this is a case study in carelessness.

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at January 9, 2008 5:27 PM


    Really? 20 or 30?

    Don't tell me you don't know the history here of RK jumping on name changing, both real and imagined.....But then when he is called on it for doing it himself, he posts some cock and bull story about how a LAWYER has advised him to protect his identity by virtually identifying himself.

    And you act SURPRISED when someone actually calls him on the irony of it all?

    Posted by: Mike at January 9, 2008 5:17 PM


    So you term searching him out on the internet and finding him because he uses a screen name that is also the name of his horse, as "calling him on it"?

    Leaving him private clues that you know who and where he is, is "calling him on it"?

    And because he reacted to THAT publicly, it's all his fault?...

    You are utterly incapable of seeing yourself.

    But then when he is called on it for doing it himself, he posts some cock and bull story about how a LAWYER has advised him to protect his identity by virtually identifying himself.

    And you act SURPRISED when someone actually calls him on the irony of it all?

    Posted by: Mike at January 9, 2008 5:17 PM


    Another correction. I was never "called on it." I admitted to changing names the only time I did it. That's a little different than denying changing names 40 or 50 times. It's more than a little different, actually.

    Now, I know OBL and Jeff are one and the same. No one else would use "fortay" for "forté". What a moron!

    posted by philby


    Care to address this, wise ass?

    5:44, stay ut of it, ok? Go find something at 'truthout' to post.

    Cecelia: "And because he reacted publicly to that, it's all his fault?"

    What is his "fault" is publicly justifying his own name changing by claiming he did it to protect the very identity that he exposed by changing it.

    But you knew that already.

    RK: "5:44 stay out of it, ok."

    Yea 5:44, RK says "stay out of it" cuz he jus luvs ta see Cecelia fight over him.

    I think we need a re-write for the scene where Cecelia, Mike and royal king are in a non-stop circle jerk about blog identities. I think the movie going public might find it unrealistic that these three characters would waste so much time on utter nonsense.
    Great Thanks, Robert Evans

    Keep digging.......one more shovel and you'll be completely buried.

    I think the movie going public might find it unrealistic that these three characters would waste so much time on utter nonsense.
    Great Thanks, Robert Evans

    Posted by: Olbermann Watch: The Movie at January 9, 2008 5:58 PM


    This coming from someone who has how many names? I've lost track.

    RK: "This coming from someone who has how many names? I've lost track."

    And thus he starts the whole ridiculous name game circle all over again.

    RK, how does it feel to never learn anything?

    Keep spinning, mike. You never learn, do ya?

    There goes Carmac again, magically reading people's minds. You know Mike's intention was to intimidate because of the deep trance you went into correct? you are one vile person.

    Posted by: at January 9, 2008 5:44 PM


    Yep. You're interpretation of vile behavior is just as convenient and self-serving as your argument as to what constitutes a contradiction.

    Philby, I would never even dream of trying to track down someone on the internet. I have better things to do. I don't care how mad they made me. You didn't just 'stumble' across my old site. You searched it out AFTER mike let it be known he found it. You never made reference to "snapshots" until he let it be known he was a stalker and has waaaaay too much time on his hands. Things must be slow on ebay........

    This is exactly the kind of thing some unscrupulous people look for on the internet. I am not criticizing you here, but you were careless.

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at January 9, 2008 5:57 PM

    Not that we're not all getting the "gist" of the information you really wish...to convey to RK, A N O N Y M O U S... but how about a few more words on the connection between stalking out an opponent's identity on the web and the assumption of "unscrupulous" behavior?

    Make it simple and concise as in "Jack runs fast", so even WK's "defender" can make the connection...

    Last week alone you changed your name about six or seven times in one day.


    Posted by: Wasted Keystrokes at January 9, 2008 6:19 PM


    Really?

    I think the movie going public might find it unrealistic that these three characters would waste so much time on utter nonsense.
    Great Thanks, Robert Evans
    Posted by: Olbermann Watch: The Movie at January 9, 2008 5:58 PM

    This coming from someone who has how many names? I've lost track.
    Posted by: royal king at January 9, 2008 6:01 PM

    careful royal king, we can easily write you out of this picture, oh, wait---strike that---we don't want lose the comic relief. Great Thanks, Rob E.

    RK: "This coming from someone who has how many names? I've lost track."

    And thus he starts the whole ridiculous name game circle all over again.

    RK, how does it feel to never learn anything?

    Posted by: Mike at January 9, 2008 6:07 PM


    Translation-- You're keeping it up. Rk, you deserve... what, Mike?

    "Philby, I would never dream of trying to track down someone on the internet."

    Oh, I think you would if that person taunted you with the utterly ridiculous claim that the very reason they did what they are ridiculing you for having done....only served to make it a snap to do the very thing they CLAIMED they were trying to prevent.

    "Philby, I would never dream of trying to track down someone on the internet."

    Oh, I think you would if that person taunted you with the utterly ridiculous claim that the very reason they did what they are ridiculing you for having done....only served to make it a snap to do the very thing they CLAIMED they were trying to prevent.

    Posted by: Mike at January 9, 2008 6:40 PM

    Now who's reading someone's mind?

    No, Mike, people are able to distinguish in importance the action of casting slings and arrows and b.s. on the internet, from an action that involves prying into someone's personal life.

    "Make it simple and concise as in "Jack runs fast", so even WK's "defender" can make the connection..."

    Why you wouldn't get it.


    Posted by: at January 9, 2008 6:48 PM

    No, Why probably wouldn't.

    but how about a few more words on the connection between stalking out an opponent's identity on the web and the assumption of "unscrupulous" behavior?


    This oughta be interesting.....

    No, Mike, people are able to distinguish in importance the action of casting slings and arrows and b.s. on the internet, from an action that involves prying into someone's personal life.


    Posted by: Cecelia at January 9, 2008 6:49 PM


    Precisley.......

    >>>>

    No, Why probably wouldn't.

    Posted by: Cecelia at January 9, 2008 6:52 PM

    LOL!

    Come on, 'why.' Post something from 'truthout.' I need a good laugh.

    There you go again ignoring the operative word. this time it is "YOU"

    Posted by: at January 9, 2008 6:59 PM


    Why it's not...

    RK,

    Please do be careful.

    It's easy to assume that people are basically harmless, but they've done everything but paint a sign to you...everyone...telling you that you shouldn't make that assumption.

    It's been a revelation.

    How disturbing that Mike is googling people on this board and tracking them down. What a stalker. Mrs. Mike must be so proud of the way he spends his free time, which appears to be about 22 of 24 hours out of the day.

    Cecelia: "No Mike, people are able to distinquish in importance the action of casting slings and arrows and b.s. on the internet, from an action that involves prying into someones personal life."

    This is NOT an argument you can win Cecelia, although I know (but don't really understand?) you're maternal desire to defend every action your little friend undertakes.

    Nobody is prying into his personal life. I don't care about his personal life. I pulled a website that came up on the TOP of the google list with ONE shot. HE put the information out there.....and then HE chose to use the very information HE had personally given us to justify and excuse his own utterly ridiculous name game taunting....which he continues even now.

    That said, he has made such crazy taunts and arguments on this blog that I REALLY did question whether or not he was a "Rudy Ramerez" type shill or not.

    You have at least one friend on this blog that is using a complete name, that I can only assume is a real name. I have a friend that posted here for a short time that used his REAL complete name and still does so on other blogs. Neither one is in any danger in my opinion.

    It's no big deal...but even if it was, RK did it to himself.

    You cannot win this argument!

    Wasn't it to catch you in a differnt identity like Red state and he just happend to find you named your horse Royal King?

    Posted by: at January 9, 2008 7:36 PM


    If your claiming red state is me, you are sadly mistaken as philby was sadly mistaken in her claim that I am obl.

    Red State, YOU are the one who seems to be lacking in mental stability.

    You can't seem to make a post on this blog without "stalking" me, .... and you do it with some of the stupidest stereotypes and outright lies to boot.

    It's called ad hominem in it's lowest common denominator.....Attack the person rather than their argument.

    I've seen your posts while visiting other blogs, so don't try to pretend you just drop by occasionally while lying about how often someone who's views you dislike does the same.

    Look in your mirror Redstate....the reflection you will see is that of a classic internet 'stalker'!

    RK: "Remember when Phony Soldier or McCool was bantering mike a while back and he cried like a baby and threatened to turn him in for cyber stalking. Too funny!"

    Nope!....And neither do you....Because you just made that up right now, and nothing of the sort ever happened.


    Posted by: Mike at January 9, 2008 4:22 PM


    I wasn't "making it up" like you claimed, prick. I just got the name wrong. You just shoved your foot up your ass at 7:53. How's that?

    If you have some moral objection to what you think happened here, fine. Express is. I would also ask that you urge RK to use some modicum of care. He is wholly incapable of admitting any error on his part, and he is hanging naked out there.

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at January 9, 2008 7:39 PM

    If one of your family members got hit by a drunk driver, would it be their fault for being on the road? That's the same irrational argument you are using, or trying to use against me. Weak and pathetic, to say the least.


    One more thing. I just went back and looked. mike taunted me with the fact he found my old website 3 times, not once, like the liar claimed. Then, his olbyloon buddy, philby, chimed in twice after that. Nothing "innocent" about it at all!

    That said, he has made such crazy taunts and arguments on this blog that I REALLY did question whether or not he was a "Rudy Ramerez" type shill or not.

    posted by mikie


    Calling your cohort a shill? I doubt she'll be happy about that.

    RK: I wasn't "making it up" like you claimed prick, I just got the name wrong. You just shoved your foot in your ass at 7:53. how's that"

    "How's that", you asked "prick?....Pretty lame...thats how!

    Are you claiming I threatened to "turn in" Redstate "prick"? Who was I "threatening" to turn her in TO "prick"?

    Yes "prick", you made it up....."prick"!

    "mike taunted me with the fact he found my old website three times, no once, like the liar claimed."

    Actually, "51.56 in a couple of responses" was the EXACT wording I used "liar".

    RK: "Calling your cohort a shill. I doubt she'll be happy about that"

    Do us a favor. Look up the meaning of the word "shill".

    You will find that the 'shiller' is doing it on purpose by pretending to be something they're not, in an INTENTIONAL attempt to bolster one's own position by presenting themself as a degrading stereotype of their opposition.

    In "rudy's" case, he was planted on this blog INTENTIONALLY posing as a brainwashed stereotype of the worst common denominator imaginable of a right wing synchophant.

    I'm pretty sure that A N O N Y M O U S did it INTENTIONALLY, and was fully aware of the fact that he was shilling....So no, I don't see him taking any insult about that whatsoever.

    Actually, "51.56 in a couple of responses" was the EXACT wording I used "liar".

    Posted by: Mike at January 9, 2008 8:26 PM


    You threw in the name of my stallion, too, lying prick. How's that? Selective memory, prick?

    If you have some moral objection to what you think happened here, fine. Express is. I would also ask that you urge RK to use some modicum of care. He is wholly incapable of admitting any error on his part, and he is hanging naked out there.

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at January 9, 2008 7:39 PM


    You "gentlemen" have made it clear what you're threatening.

    He knows.

    You can stop now.

    "You threw in my name of my stallion too"

    Which just happens to be "Royal King"!

    Keep digging that little hole for youself...."prick".

    I'm pretty sure that A N O N Y M O U S did it INTENTIONALLY, and was fully aware of the fact that he was shilling....So no, I don't see him taking any insult about that whatsoever.

    Posted by: Mike at January 9, 2008 8:35 PM

    You realize, don't you, that Clucker has repeatedly implied that the accusation that he was Rudy/Philby is a lie.

    Nothing like asking for trouble in real life...by issuing the oh so damaging and heinous accusation of multiple alias posting on the internet, when you're RIGHT!

    But right or wrong... you must consider yourself as being the one at fault for putting yourself in the hands of threatening drunk driver punks.... because lord knows you asked for telling Mike and company they use aliases on...a blogsite!

    It's a bit like not knowing the difference between the insult "idiot" or "moron" and insults containing obscenities.

    You know guys, it doesn't matter how much free health care you want for the middle class, if you can justify such threats, you're still not good people.

    Excuse my french, but god damn you stink!

    Your analogy is wrong RK. The correct analogy would be, "If a member of my family got into a vehicle with an obviously inebriated driver ...." In using the wrong analogy

    posted by philby

    According to who, you? My analogy was right. You put your little olbyloon spin on it to fit your agenda. Now, take a hike, ok?

    Which just happens to be "Royal King"!

    Keep digging that little hole for youself...."prick".

    Posted by: Mike at January 9, 2008 9:06 PM


    How many times are you going to lie in one day? How do you sleep at night? You know damned well that's not the name of my stallion, lyin' c'ser! It just doesn't end does it? Keep digging.....

    Cecelia: "If you can jusify such threats, you're not good people."

    WHAT "threats"????

    Nothing like our little high drama queen trying to defend the indefensible by pretending something happened that didn't happen.

    RK: "You know damned well thats not the name of my stallion."

    Well, if it's not royal king, or "51.56% royal King", then I damned well DON'T know the name of your stupid horse...so I certainly couldn't have posted what I don't know, could I?

    Nothing like our little high drama queen trying to defend the indefensible by pretending something happened that didn't happen.

    Posted by: Mike at January 9, 2008 10:19 PM


    More olbyloon spin, it really doesn't end.....

    Nothing like our little high drama queen trying to defend the indefensible by pretending something happened that didn't happen.

    Posted by: Mike at January 9, 2008 10:19 PM


    Holy shit, is Mike still posting on this site after getting his ass handed to him over and over again? In the history of this site, has Mike ever contributed anything that is worth a shit?

    ...so I certainly couldn't have posted what I don't know, could I?

    Posted by: Mike at January 9, 2008 10:23 PM


    Do you know what a fool you will be when I re post it? Got your spin gun ready?

    Still at with the meaningless personal attacks, partisan based judgements, and profanity in place of anything of substance, Jibber?

    You might even succeed in insulting me if you didn't blog like like a ninth grade dropout.

    "Why you over here coward?"

    He's here crying about how he gave his own identity away on a blogboard in the name of protecting his identity by changing names....and then blaming it on drunk drivers. :D

    It would give you a little bit of a human side.

    Posted by: Wasted Keystrokes at January 9, 2008 11:17 PM

    Like you have with Sharon and Cecelia? Yea, right....

    You might even succeed in insulting me if you didn't blog like like a ninth grade dropout.

    Posted by: Mike at January 9, 2008 10:52 PM


    You're a fuckin moron. How's that? Up to your standards? I'm sure your "beautiful" and "intelligent" wife tells you that all the time, though. How's the weather under 'whys' ballsack? Wait, 'why' has no balls. Must be lots of room in his undies for ya!

    MIKE said:

    "RK: "This coming from someone who has how many names? I've lost track."

    And thus he starts the whole ridiculous name game circle all over again.

    RK, how does it feel to never learn anything?

    Posted by: Mike at January 9, 2008 6:07 PM"

    This coming from MIKE a reformed (supposedly reformed b/c I have no proof one way or the other) name shifter of dozens of personas in the past.

    I would think that anyone with your long history of so many offenses would REFRAIN from accusing others of playing the name game and not learning anything.

    I would think that a reformed name changer would comment on the drawbacks and dishonesty of using multiple names rather than deriding anyone who mentions the practice.

    Or is there no hypocrisy that is beneath you?


    J$, could you find a few spare minutes and either confirm the accusations that RK uses multiple names or lay the whole thing to rest?

    Grammie

    WK I am all ears for this:

    "You know its true RK. Don't make me go back and dig it up. "

    I know it's late but tomorrow or the weekend will be fine.

    Grammie

    Greg, could you please elaborate the particulars from this:

    "I think we have seen how much harm can come from the silly name game, malicious, intentional, incidental, inadvertent and innocent."

    Thanks,

    Grammie

    Philby, I disagree with 98% of what you say. I commend you on the fact you have stuck with your latest name, most of the time, that is. If only everybody would do the same, w/out naming any names........

    WK, I was referring to your threat to go back and dig up the proof (comments) that RK made under other/multiple names.

    Your recent comment simply reiterated the charges you made. I think that you would agree that an indictment is not the factual evidence. At least I hope that you don't consider CHARGES to be PROOF.

    I've seen your indictment several times.

    Where is your evidence?

    Grammie

    "But, Cecelia, is that type of thing that could be used, with other evidence, to establish mental incompetence in Court."

    Ever hear of computer forensics? An expert would have a heck of a lot of fun here, eh? And I think there is a long list of others ahead of RK who would have much to fear from a competency hearing if the comments from this site were proffered, along with other evidence.

    RK changed his name publicly from Jeff. See below:

    Factor, remember mikey,woogy,mutt,beverly,cecil?All the same olbyloon. He is now calling himself cw. A coward is right! Yes, I am jeff and I changed my name to royalking and I am man enough to admit it, unlike the coward little mikey. He reasorts to "anon", also.

    Posted by royalking at March 21, 2007 1:27 AM

    He wasn't outed. He wasn't figured out. He stated it. He gave a reason after the fact, the reasoning OBVIOUSLY IRRELEVANT NOW and actually sound reasoning to newcomers given the psychos here.

    Now, let the sucker punches begin because I am out. Your lack of character will soon be revealed.


    The moment when RK finally loses his mind.
    I think this is what they call a nervous breakdown.

    Posted by: Wasted Keystrokes at January 10, 2008 12:37 AM


    My mind is solid and in tact. I saddled a horse and trained under the lights. It's always fun riding at night. Even better when I'm getting paid to have fun.

    Thank you. That was generous. If I might ask, would you mind referring to me as A N O N Y M O U S or simply "A". It is my intention, as I indicated to you earlier, of referring to you only as RK from this evening onward, and if you call me "A" you can derive some pleasure from what that may imply. In fact, even "Big A" would be fine with me.


    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at January 10, 2008 12:56 AM


    What's wrong with philby? I kinda like it. I think "big a" might be a stretch, though. I'll think about it. Nite all.

    Janet: "I would think that a reformed name changer would comment on the drawbacks and dishonesty of using multiple names rather than deride anyone who mentions the practice"

    First off Janet, in my opinion, "dishonesty" has nothing to do with it.

    But I will give my opinion on both the drawbacks and AND advantages.

    A) - A few obvious drawbacks of sticking with a single name:

    1) - People like you tend to focus on something that was said before that you think is contradictory.....and then regurgitate it back up.....instead of engaging in an adult conversation about issues.

    2) - People who hate either you or your views tend to focus on you and post grade school type ad hominems out of the blue. I think some of them change names just to do it, and others may just post infrequently...and thats all they know how to do.


    3) - People either attack or defend each other dependant entirely on who they are. This can't be a good thing.

    4) - This may be saying the same thing in a different way, but everyone builds up baggage that inhibits what might otherwise be rational and respectful discourse. What a shame that is!

    B) - Now here's the only advantage I can think of to sticking with a single name:

    1) - People THINK they get to know each other.

    That said, I said I wouldn't do it anymore, and I HAVE stuck with that vow religiously for at least several months now. I will either continue to post as Mike or I won't post at all.

    Does that answer your question?


    Gute Nacht, Freunden!

    Posted by: A N O N Y M O U S at January 10, 2008 12:56 AM

    Yes, we're told how damaging "the name game" is...and why is it damaging?

    It's damaging because in between reciting his prayers and listening to Handel, Clucker will issue ominous threats to do you harm in real life, because you issued accusations of posting under aliases on the internet.

    Oh, yes, WK, you are wickedly funny.... You can't distinguish between someone who ascertains that there might be a coherent and logical argument about legal entrapment in a particular circumstance of a police sting operation-- from someone who suggests it's peachy keen to drop trou in public...but so much the better...for anyone who wishes to egg you on....

    "Gute Nacht, Freunden!"

    You too, Himmler...


    ) - A few obvious drawbacks of sticking with a single name:

    1) - People like you tend to focus on something that was said before that you think is contradictory.....and then regurgitate it back up.....instead of engaging in an adult conversation about issues.

    2) - People who hate either you or your views tend to focus on you and post grade school type ad hominems out of the blue. I think some of them change names just to do it, and others may just post infrequently...and thats all they know how to do.


    3) - People either attack or defend each other dependant entirely on who they are. This can't be a good thing.

    4) - This may be saying the same thing in a different way, but everyone builds up baggage that inhibits what might otherwise be rational and respectful discourse. What a shame that is!

    B) - Now here's the only advantage I can think of to sticking with a single name:

    1) - People THINK they get to know each other.

    That said, I said I wouldn't do it anymore, and I HAVE stuck with that vow religiously for at least several months now. I will either continue to post as Mike or I won't post at all.

    Does that answer your question?
    Posted by: Mike at January 10, 2008 1:29 AM

    Yeah.

    In other words, you aren't comfortable with any of the realistic accountability you'd have in your daily life, for the statements you made face-to-face.

    What's wrong with philby? I kinda like it. I think "big a" might be a stretch, though. I'll think about it. Nite all.

    Posted by: royal king at January 10, 2008 1:24 AM

    Big A is dead-on for this character. Especially if it's stretched.

    Sharon dredged THIS up from almost a year ago by RK @ 12:59 AM, ... WHY, I don't really know?

    "Factor, remember mikey, woogy,mutt,cecil,beverly. All the same Olbyloon. He is now calling himself CW."

    The fatal problem with your flawed and belated analysis is that 1) - I never once posted as Mikey, Cecil, Beverly, OR CW. I DID however, post as Mutt and Woogy, but I had already 'outed' myself BEFORE that date.


    What you COULD clearly see in that old RK comment IF you would care to put away the partanship and look at it objectively....is the utter hostility and outright lying that has lead directly to the very contentious relationship that exists today.

    Sharon, the only one of the two of us guilty of throwing a "sucker punch" was YOU!

    Sharon, the only one of the two of us guilty of throwing a "sucker punch" was YOU!

    Posted by: Mike at January 10, 2008 1:57 AM

    No, Mike, you're wrong. There's a difference in throwing a punch that goes no farther than making an accusation about who you are online.... from one that goes into the territory of sifting out the demographics of your actual life.

    And according to this you posted under more than Mike , Woogey, and Mutt. Unless you're declaring Johnny to be a liar too.

    Remember the circumstance of the following post was his contradicting your denial that you hadn't posted under an alias. He stated you has early as the previous month from this post.

    You admitted it was true, but argued that it was merely an easily forgettable... one shot...(forgettable if you're in the habit of doing that sort of thing..):

    mike
    phil
    bubbajim
    willmashore
    Woogy
    RedState
    Buffy
    Bluebird
    FactCheck is a pompus/pompous jerk
    Liburahl
    Will
    Opama
    Gobledegook/gobbledeguck
    Pucko
    whodunnit/whodunit
    Redbird
    MYTVONLYGETSMSNBC
    Matt is a lapdog
    Woofy
    Matt is a hypocrite
    Namenabber
    Pink Wolf
    Blue Wolf
    Mutt
    Name
    Hypohater
    Francewasright
    Peter Piper/Peterpiper
    Blue Patriot
    Dicky
    hater
    Rudy
    Jimbo

    plus a lot of one-or-two shots like:

    Brandon
    Joker
    Taty Kuric
    Yogi Nimrod

    I quit going over the list about half way through. So the actual number may be around twice what you see above.
    Posted by: johnny dollar at October 11, 2007 6:10 PM

    Cecelia: "In other words, you aren't comfortable with any of the realistic accountability you'd have in your daily life, for the statements you made face-to-face."

    Cecelia, you'd be a much better person yourslef if you quit trying to put every statement you read into "other words". Why don't you try taking things you hear at face value for a change?

    You have NEVER once succeeded in accurately rewording anything I have ever said, no matter how clearly you THINK you detect deceptiveness or ulterior motives.

    Try as you might to turn this blog into 'dailyl' life, it isn't. I have NEVER personally experienced the kind of sheer animosity, hatred, and hostility that I have experienced on this blog in my 'daily' life.

    Maybe thats one of the reasons it fascinates me as much as it does.

    Your answer also tells me you didn't read or really consider a single thing I said in that 1:29 AM post....Just another opportunity to mount an attack!

    Your answer also tells me you didn't read or really consider a single thing I said in that 1:29 AM post....Just another opportunity to mount an attack!

    Posted by: Mike at January 10, 2008 2:10 AM

    Aside for some statement about "hostility" (what could be more inherently hostile than seeking out the real life demographics of an opponent) your answer hasn't made clear how one item on the list of cons for posting under a consistent name, is one iota different from the daily accountability you'd face for making any statement to a consistent audience in real life.

    Cecelia: "and according to this, you posted under more than woogy, mutt, and mike."

    But I never posted as WK, Cecelia, or Cecil, just as I said.

    I have explained this at least five times now. I'll do it ONE more time and I owe you NO further explanation.....99% of that list was from the time at or BEFORE 'woogy' or 'mutt'. I used those names back in the very early days when I thought nothing of it and it seemed everything else was doing it as far as I could tell.

    After that, I admitted to doing it a handful of times in unusual circumstances.

    There are MANY posters doing it right now, but I'm NOT one of them, .... and yet you and a few others will not stop dredging up the distant past as if it were today.

    That says SO much about YOUR own lack of character!

    Well Cecelia, you keep seeing "hostility" where there was none regarding RK's absurd reason for changing his name, .... in which the ONLY way to prove how ridiculous his explanation was for doing it was to show that it actually produced the opposite result.

    You keep ignoring THAT hypocritical part of it entirely, while 'seeing' nonexistant threats and hostility instead.

    The FACT is that RK has NO lock on virtuosity regarding name changing, and by the way, I believe WK might have been right about him doing it just last week...the reposts were exactly the same, and the punctuation style was identical as well...including his trademark over use of commas.

    There are MANY posters doing it right now, but I'm NOT one of them, .... and yet you and a few others will not stop dredging up the distant past as if it were today.

    That says SO much about YOUR own lack of character!

    Posted by: Mike at January 10, 2008 2:20 AM

    Actually, Mike, in Oct. when Johnny wrote that list, he stated that you had posted under an alias as recently as the month before (Sept "0&)

    Though you had consistently and voluntarily denied posting as anyone other than Woogey or Mutt (no one held a gun to your head), after Johnny's post you did later admit that he was correct, but then argued that it was a forgettable one shot...

    Now as foreign, alien, and outlandish as this might sound to you... in light of the revision from as recently as 9/07, can you not see it isn't an issue of anyone else's character (especially when you've tried to ascertain their personal info online) but the perception of the trustworthiness of your own.

    Now Mike, you're not being fair.

    If Cecelia wants your opinion she'll give it to you.

    Posted by: Wasted Keystrokes at January 10, 2008 2:38 AM

    I have specifically asked him for his opinon.

    What's your excuse?

    Cecelia: "can you not see its' an issue of anyone else's character."

    NO I CAN'T!...Especially since you won't let it go.

    To correct one more thing, I did not deny posting as anyone other than just Woogy and Mutt. What I did was consistantly deny that RK had it right when he kept accusing me of posting under OTHER names that he got wrong EVERY single time.

    As for me owning up to the other ones I had already used. Why would I have done that after the fact?

    The FACT is that your consistantly obsessing with a couple of one shots "as recently as September", when the month is now January, DOES in fact say much about your OWN character.

    What you are refusing to focus on is that I said I would not do it from that point on and have kept my word on that...although sometimes I wonder why I bother in light of your unforgiving nature.

    As far as RK goes, I did not violate his privacy in any way. All I did was pull up a web site that is readily available on a public domain with a simple Google search.

    So miss little drama queen, kindly quit trying to turn THAT into something sinister. I don't know where the man lives, nor do I care...only the address of a ranch that was publicly disclosed as a business on a public web site.

    And you STILL haven't addressed the idocy , irony, and hypocrisy that led to it.

    "If Cecelia wants your opinion, she'll give it to you"

    VERY accurate!

    So when you denied posting as anyone other than Woogy and Mutt, you meant the denial to refer to the time before you begin obliging us, which was after you had posted under those names that Johnny revealed?

    Except in the cases of the quick one shots you used, which were also revealed by Johnny after you had again said in Oct '07 (not at gun point) that you never posted under any other names, but later that Johnny revealed that you...forgettably.. had done just that... as recently as Sept 07?

    But any continuing mistrust of you is unreasonable and not based upon your own contradictions, but upon our character flaws?... And this unreasonable distrust and ensuing accusations give you justification for trying to find out that person's demographic info?

    Is this correct?

    Cecelia: "is this correct"

    No!

    Obviously you can't be counted on to read and understand anything you read.

    I'd like you to show me where I actually said I never posted under anyone by woogy and mutt, because I don't think I actually said that.

    When J$ called me on it after I said "that's why I don't it", I was referring to present tense, and therefore, I WAS telling the truth.

    Cecelia, I don't need character validation from you or anyone else on this blog. I have lived 56 years. I have successfully managed, worked, and played with other folks of all persuations for many years, and I know full well who I am.

    Yes, I have said some stupid things on this blog. I said too much at times. I've said things that turned out to be false. I've behaved poorly at times. I've said things I wish I could take back....but dishonesty is not one of my flaws....and I am confident that anyone who knows me personally would tell you that.

    As for what anybody else might think on this blog, I could care less. It has been proven to be all entirely partisan based anyway.

    When J$ called me on it after I said "that's why I don't it", I was referring to present tense, and therefore, I WAS telling the truth.

    Posted by: Mike at January 10, 2008 3:28 AM

    So "present tense" means that you haven't done it in the last seond? Day? Week? It can't mean that you haven't done in the last month. We know now that you had.

    No, present tense doesn't mean last month.

    As for "last second, last minute", etc, I'd suggest that you try applying a little common sense before asking such silly rhetorical questions.

    Yes, there IS a reasonable point in which the past becomes the past....and I think a month ago does qualify.

    Got it yet!

    You just won't quit, will you?

    That said, I'll put my honesty against yours anyday.

    "Obviously you can't be counted on to read and understand anything you read." (Mike)

    LET ME THROW THAT ONE BACK AT YOU!

    I pasted an entire quote so as not to be accused of deleting anything to show when (yes, almost a year!) Jeff changed his name to RK and voluntarily exposed it (a couple of comments afterward, if you want to look). I just offered a little proof for what he has said all along.


    "As for me owning up to the other ones I had already used. Why would I have done that after the fact?" (Mike)

    THAT WAS MY POINT ABOUT RK. You case is more than a little different.

    "I'd like you to show me where I actually said I never posted under anyone by woogy and mutt, because I don't think I actually said that." (Mike)

    Mike, do you really want me to find it? I can.

    ". . .put all that info in plain sight for anyone with a second grade education to find doesn't give you the right to have any curiousity when you find it!" (The Big A)

    Stalkers use legal methods to find people.


    "And when his opinion doesn't equate with what you feel it really is you rewrite it and stuff it back down his throat."
    Posted by: Wasted Keystrokes at January 10, 2008 10:11 AM

    Okay, let me get this straight. You feel that Mike is getting knocked around unfairly. Compare this essentially stalking argument and name changing to suit one's own purposes to days and days and days and days and days of harassment of RK, for what? TAKING CARE OF HORSES! It was after reading that for a LONG period of time before finally some decent people choose to speak up and say ENOUGH!

    As much as you think I am a bigot, it is okay if you choose to wear a skirt around for Mike's comfort!

    is Bovine Queen IS a certifiable moron.

    It doesn't matter what name, or names, he uses. His idiocy comes shining through.

    Example a):

    DUMBSHIT! I mean Bovine accused AAP of being Mike.

    Did Bovine ever apologize? - NO.
    Au contraire, Bovine kept accusing others of being AAP.

    And Bovine keeps doing it.

    "Compare this essentially stalking argument"

    >>>You REALLY think Mike was stalking RK? SERIOUSLY? We will have to agree to disagree.

    Get up to speed here. I stated what one of the argument was about: stalking. I was not a part of that discussion. The whole bestiality slime started long, long ago. I never said that Mike was stalking RK because of horses. Fool.

    RK never asked for help either.

    What Mike did was despicable but certainly legal at this point.

    is Bovine Queen IS a certifiable moron.

    I heard you the first time you said it. Is it possible to ever move on?

    "I am going to hell."

    Certainly a good reason for me to straighten up.

    Move on, wasted. Sharon is referring to Anonymous' posts in regards to the beastiality. mike has also chimed in, egging her on as well as patsy did, too. I don't know how you missed the posts they did it for days on end. Like I said, please move on. It's well established that mike is an ass no need to dwell on it.

    So "present tense" means that you haven't done it in the last seond? Day? Week? It can't mean that you haven't done in the last month. We know now that you had.

    Posted by: Cecelia at January 10, 2008 3:43 AM

    Seriously, Cecelia, what the hell are you trying to prove?

    You truly are a mean-spirited bitch. I feel bad for your husband.

    Posted by: Wasted Keystrokes at January 10, 2008 10:27 AM


    Well, I'll let him know...

    The reason I asked is because it's been stated several times here that RK somehow deserved Mike looking him up online and A N O N has made some couched threats and said the same of RK culpability.

    I made the attempt to get Mike to understand that he has done things that merit some suspicion on RK's part, whether he feels that he's done anything truly wrong or not. And online searches and couched threats by he and Clucker are extreme reactions to what you call a "silly topic" in the first place.

    If you don't think there's anything questionable about shape shifting, then it should roll off your back for someone to accuse you of something so paltry.

    Now that's a distinction that you're probably not going to get.

    Bottom line for anyone else reading this post: this little pond has attracted some would-be sharks.

    Be careful.

    By the way, WK.

    Since the argument has moved from my having to take on people using vile language because I'm a Republican and therefore a family values type, to my never having taken on anyone on my "side", let me correct you here.

    I've taken disagree very heartily with Bob Cox, the owner of this blog on two issues, and with a blogger here named Brandon, the Norse god Loki's retarded son.

    Now you've gotten more far more time here than you're worth.

    wasted, did you used to post as LMAO? If not, what did you post under before wasted? You said you have posted here for a long time.

    "the truth" that is your only other name? No others?

    Well, that is what he said What about you what other names have you used?

    Posted by: at January 10, 2008 3:48 PM


    You first, how's that?

    Found any obama accomplishments, yet?

    I guess WK is a bigger man than you.

    Posted by: at January 10, 2008 5:37 PM
    Found any Fred accomplishments?

    Posted by: at January 10, 2008 5:39 PM


    Thanks for proving what I already knew, cowy. As far as your Fred diversion, it was just that. I posed the obama question first, you had no answer so you diverted to Fred and Bush. Hence, the term olbyloon diversion.

    Wk stated one of his other names, I have stated both of my names. Need I say how 'big of a man' you are? Goes w/out saying........

    Found any Fred accomplishments?

    Posted by:cowy at January 10, 2008 5:39 PM

    I'll see your diversion card and raise you Fred's accomplishments. Don't worry, I fully expect you live up to your reputation by not posting obamas accomplishments. Don't bother posting that worthless link you posted before. There were no accomplishments there, just his views.

    Fred Thompson
    Qualifications

    - Served on the US-China Economic Review Commission
    - AEG Scholar specializing in Diplomatic Relations and Foreign Intelligence
    - Special Counsel to both the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations under President Reagan
    - Chairman of the International Security Advisory Board currently; a high-level panel charged with evaluating long-term threats to U. S. security
    - Member of the powerful Senate Committee on Finance, which has jurisdiction over, among other things, international trade.
    - Member of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence
    - Member of the National Security Working Group, which observes and monitors executive branch negotiations with foreign governments.
    - Member of the Council on Foreign Relations, an organization that promotes improved understanding of international affairs through public and private discussion.
    - Member of the American Enterprise Institute for Policy Research, studies national security and intelligence, with a focus on China, North Korea, and Russia.
    - Chairman of the Government Affairs Committee 1997-2001
    - Ranking Republican Minority Member of the Government Affairs Committee 2001-2003
    - Chairman of the Youth Violence Committee 1995-1997
    - Chairman of the Senate Government Oversight Committee
    - Foreign Relations Committee, 1995-96
    - Member, Judiciary Committee, 1995-98
    - Member, Constitution, Federalism and Property Rights, 1997-98
    - Member, Technology, Terrorism and Gov't. Information, 1995-98
    - Member, Finance Committee, 1999-2002
    - Finance subcommittees Member, International Trade, 1999-2002 Member, Taxation and Oversight, 1999-2002 Member, Social Security and Family Policy, 1999-2002 Member, Health Care, 1999-2002
    - Earned "Restoring the Balance" Award from National Conference of State Legislatures; given annually to national policymakers committed to federalism and its impact on issues involving state legislators
    - Recognized by Citizens Against Government Waste for his report documenting the federal government's staggering levels of waste, abuse, and mismanagement. Thompson presented the report, which includes his recommendations for addressing those problems, to Office of Management and Budget (OMB) Director Mitch Daniels at a press conference in Washington. Report includes analysis of the four biggest challenges facing the federal government: workforce management, financial management, information technology management, and overlap and duplication. In addition, the report includes an agency-by-agency appendix citing examples of waste, fraud, and abuse. The report also contains a list of the "Top Ten" worst examples of mismanagement in the government. CAGW is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization, dedicated to eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse in government.
    -
    - Interest Group Ratings:
    - National Abortion Reproductive Rights: 0
    - US Chamber of Commerce: 100%
    - ACLU: 11%
    - American Conservative Union: 85%
    - AFT: perfect 0
    - League of Private Property Owners: 90%
    - National Tax Limitation Committee: 97%
    - National Taxpayers Union: 88%
    - ADA (liberal): perfect score
    - Supported Newt’s Contract with America 100% of the time
    - Planned Parenthood 0%
    - NARAL 0%


    Important Proposals and Inclusions Introduced while in the Senate:
    - Nuclear Proliferation Act
    - Special Counsel Act
    - Aviation Security Bill Amendment
    - FY 1999 Omnibus Appropriations Bill
    - Regulatory Right-To-Know Act
    - Homeland Security Workforce Act
    - Homeland Security Education Act
    - The Thompson amendment in the Treasury-Postal Title (Section 646) of the
    Consolidated Appropriations Bill
    - Regulatory Improvement Act (S. 981)
    - Thompson Amendment to the National Homeland Security and Combating Terrorism Act
    - Thompson Amendment to the National Employee Savings and Trust Equity Act
    - The Federal Emergency Procurement Flexibility Act
    - The Federalism Accountability Act
    - The Government Information Security Reform Act (GISRA)
    - The Thompson Amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act
    - The Truth in Regulation Act

    Wow, "introduced" and "supported." Very weak, but, at least you tried. Can you honestly say he comes anywhere close to Freds accomplishments?

    2005-2006 Senator Obama supported the interests of the National Farmers Union 100 percent in 2005-2006.

    Vote 429: H R 2419: Craig Amdt. No. 3640; To prohibit the involuntary acquisition of farmland and grazing land by Federal, State, and local governments for parks, open space, or similar purposes.
    Not Voting

    Vote 428: H R 2419: Brown Amdt. No. 3819; To increase funding for critical Farm Bill programs and improve crop insurance. Not Voting

    12/13/07 Vote 427: H R 2419: Tester Amdt. No. 3666; To modify the provisions relating to unlawful practices under the Packers and Stockyards Act.
    Not Voting

    Oh, yea, he's all for the farmers, isn't he.......

    Did I mention he voted to keep access to porno in schools? Classy.

    "If they cross the line, they will be destroyed."

    Fred Thompson on Iran

    Cheers. Unfortunately, they've already crossed the line and Bush did nothing, twice.

    "You know things are good in Iraq when the new york times isn't writing about it."

    Fred Thompson.

    Sad, but, true.

    Fred Thompson: winner of the Frank Lutz focus group poll. Don't worry, patsy, I won't rub it too bad......

    Isn't this the same scumbag that was crying that he never supported Thompson for president?
    Now he can't stop talking about him.

    Amnesia ?

    Posted by: at January 11, 2008 12:03 AM


    Scumbag, I never said "Thompson WILL win the presidency." Which is what you loons tried to say I said a while back. Ok, scumbag? I have never denied I supported him, either. Ok, scumbag?

    WK, based on your comment to RK don't make me go back and post all my proof I naively asked for your proof.

    You would have saved both of us time and trouble if you said what you obviously meant. You can't or won't supply the proof but you are quite content to repeat the accusations many times over.

    Grammie

    "You know things are good in Iraq when the new york times isn't writing about it."

    Fred Thompson.

    Sad, but, true.

    Posted by: royal king at January 10, 2008 10:41 PM


    ...and he threw that one out in response to a question about Pakistan. Desperately seeking an opportunity to use a line he had paid good money to have written.

    Good in Iraq? Nine more soldiers dead in the two days preceeding that statement/ no political amelioration between the Sunni and Shia, and the Turks are now bombing our very best friends in the region, the Kurds - with our blessing! Hey Phari-cee; are you aware that Iraqi Christians are being rooted out, killed, and dispossessed at a staggering rate? This is not "AL Qeada", it is the various sects we are ostensibly supporting against one another in that smoldering civil war, and it didn't even happen under that bastard Saddam.

    One year after the "surge" and the GOP crows about success?

    slob, picked up your local paper from your big city? How many deaths in your own neighborhood this week? 10? 15? Are you e-mailing your local gov't crying about it? Probably not. They're all (d)'s aren't they? Don't you live near NJ? They're all in the pen!

    Anony, you totally avoided my point echoing slobs. How many deaths in your local city in the past week? I'm guessing a lot more than in Iraq. Ventured into Nuevo Laredo, lately? It isn't very pretty.

    NEWARK, N.J. (AP) _ New Jersey's largest city was less deadly in 2007, while the homicide rate rose in Camden, the state's most dangerous community.

    In Camden, the number of killings rose to 42 through Sunday from 32 in 2006, even as the number of other crimes declined. In addition, police killed three people in Camden in 2007.

    Though more people are killed each year in Newark, Camden, with a population of under 80,000, has a higher murder rate.


    http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newjersey/ny-bc-nj--citymurders1231dec31,0,4570457.story

    I've never claimed Iraq is an "antiseptic paradise." Nor, has anyone for that matter.

    Fred Thompson was being berated by Colmes last night. Fred asked him why he had such a hard time accepting the fact that the surge was working. Needless to say, Colmes immediately changed the subject.

    There are parts of B-dad where violence is very rare to non-existent. That may have been what Barnes was referring to. I didn't see the segment with Barnes, just a hunch.

    http://www.examiner.com/blogs/Yeas_and_Nays/2008/1/11/MoveOnorg-peels-editor-off-of-satirical-Onion-paper

    MoveOn.org peels editor off of satirical Onion paper
    January 11, 3:28 AM

    Lapsing into parody?


    Lots of people on the right think that the liberal group MoveOn.org is a joke. Well, now they’ll have a bit more ammo in their argument.

    The powerful liberal activist group has wooed Peter Koechley away from the satirical newspaper The Onion, where he was managing editor.

    Sharon @ January 10, 12:03 PM: "What Mike did was despicable but certainly legal at this point."

    And YOU are completely out of your mind if you REALLY believe that!

    - "What Mike did" was place two names in a standard Google search and up popped a public web site....which is something ANYBODY could have done in five minutes or less with only the information supplied by RK himself. In fact, it was SO ridiculously easy, that all you need to do is hit "I'm feeling lucky", .... and up it pops!

    - "What Mike did" was simply to call someone on his absurd justification for doing the same thing he continues to obsess about and harass others for doing, all in the name of protecting an identity he literally gave away HIMSELF by doing it.

    I have to admit, the absolute lunacy of some other posters having framed this as some sort of a moral issue absolutely floored me.


    I'll take it under advisement, Mike, that you did nothing wrong, someone got what they asked for, and you aren't a thug.

    That's fair enough and the end of the matter for me.

    I have to admit, the absolute lunacy of some other posters having framed this as some sort of a moral issue absolutely floored me.


    Posted by: Mike at January 11, 2008 8:38 PM


    Re posting it and taunting or trying to taunt me with the fact you 'knew who I was and where I used to live' with it 4 or 5 times was the 'moral issue.' I can't believe you were stupid enough to start dwelling on it again. We know, your an ass, let it go. Just get back to your usual gig of telling every one that doesn't agree with you that they're wrong with no proof, ok?

    RK, you've still completely missed the point of what I was "trying" to do, but that's nothing new.

    The point remains that you gave up your own identity under the guise of supposedly protecting it.

    So, the Republicans are "turning on each other" and the democrats are "snarling and biting one another." Is that how you see it?Hillary hasn't even begun to show her true colors, just wait. She's getting her game plan together with her "unpaid consultant" Carville. Just wait.

    you guys have it all wrong. I was watching the cable shows that night and CNN was the last network to call it for hillary. FNC and MSNBC called it at almost the same time. thats a fact jack.

    Out of context!!!!

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