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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    January 27, 2008
    NEW RECORD: Olbermann Lies 20 Times in 8 Minutes on CNN

    I've gone ahead and noted the 20 most obvious lies told by Keith to Howard Kurtz on this morning's edition of "Reliable Sources". I can't decide what was more entertaining - that Keith was on a show called RELIABLE sources or that Kurtz allowed Olbermann to tell whopper after whopper without challenge. To his credit, Kurtz at least ASKED some of the questions OlbyWatch readers were hoping he'd ask. Next time maybe Howard will get some REAL answer.

    NOTE: I see now I counted 15 twice; so there are really 21 lies.

    UPDATE: Blue Blogs weep after meanie Howard Kurtz asks poor Keith "unfair" questions while OlbyLoon commenters wail about the inhumanity of it all.

    Think Progress: Olbermann: I'd Sacrifice My Personal Success For A 'Responsible Presidency'
    The Raw Story: Olbermann: Why I keep 'poking Bill O'Reilly in the eye'

    UPDATE:

    Some folks were having trouble reading the fine print in the title bars I added to the video so I've made a sort of transcript you can use as you watch:

    Keith Runs MSNBC
    Producers do not decide who does interviews

    OlberLie #1
    Brit Hume anchors Fox News election coverage

    OlberLie #2
    Hannity & Colmes aired AFTER Fox News election coverage

    OlberLie #3
    There IS no conflict since it did not happen

    OlberLie #4
    OlbyWatch has pointed out MANY instances of exactly this
    [Keith making statements as anchor that reflected his leftist views]

    OlberLie #5
    A "Prime Facie" lie
    [It is self-evident that MSNBC has moved left; Dan Abrams was made GM based on his strategy of counter-programming Fox News]

    OlberLie #6
    The criticism of Matthews, a democrat, is not LEFT ENOUGH
    [the recent criticism came from Clinton front-group Media Matters for anti-Hillary statements]

    OlberLie #7
    Media Research Center made PRECISELY this accusation in 1998

    OlberLie #8
    KO routinely called in "sick" and did nowhere near 218 "consecutive" shows on Lewinsky

    OlberLie #9
    See Keith's Infamous Cornell speech after which MSNBC KO'd KO

    OlberLie #10
    Again, see Cornell Speech

    OlberLie #11
    KO Attacks O'Reilly nightly and calls THAT news

    OlberLie #12
    KO asked about ONE guest, answers about TWO

    In other words...
    KO is reflecting the far-left POV (see previous lies)

    OlberLie #13
    KO has repeatedly told reporters he was baiting O'Reilly to get ratings

    Olbermann #14
    Another "Prima Facie" lie
    [it is self-evident that Keith is obsessed with O'Reilly, he does a segment on him almost every nights, almost always talks about him during interviews and even donned an O'Reilly mask at the 2006 TV Critics Association conference.

    OlberLie #15
    Wait for it - he attacks O'Reilly because his audience "expects" it

    OlberLie #15
    There it is - he attacks O'Reilly because his audience "expects" it

    OlberLie #15
    This never happened
    [O'Reilly semi-seriously said Fox Security would be giving a prank caller to his radio show a "call"]

    OlberLie #16
    The Democrats run Congress yet are only criticized for not being LEFT ENOUGH

    OlberLie #17
    Again, MRC made PRECISELY this accusation in 1998

    Olberlie #18
    Again, Keith called in "sick" and never did 218 consecutive shows

    Olbermann #19
    Another "Prima Facie" lie

    Olbermann #20
    Another "Prima Facie" lie


    Posted by Robert Cox | Permalink | Comments (142) | | View blog reactions

    142 Comments

    If the "success" of Countdown suggests the audience doesn't want 2 sides arguing, how would he explain O'Reilly having 4 times the audience with the arguing?

    O'Reilly makes it up as he go's along?

    What a Whopper that was!

    Great Thanks, I can't believe you don't know the answer to that.

    It is all those Neocon Brown Shirts terrorizing people into watching BOR. Hasn't KO gotten through the fog and helped you see the truth yet?

    I have some study courses twice a week to help all good Libs keep up with the words of our hero, KO. Just stop on by. No one is so helpless that I can't help them find the way through KO.

    Grammie

    "I try to do a different show every night" Keith Olbermann LOL
    Everyone of his shows is a carbon copy of the previous show. Horrible interview by Kurtz. Kurtz is a national disgrace. He should be ashamed of himself.

    I love that Olbermann says he is "smart" enough to know when to be non-partisan. Then he admits he is not comfortable interviewing Rudy or Bush because he attacks them on his show. I guess Olbermann is not smart enough to know when he has contradicted himself.

    So let's see..... Olbermann calls himself a "journalist" but this journalist has to recuse himself from interviews (Giuliani) because of his partisan screeds?

    Nice try Bathtub Boy,

    Just stop on by. No one is so helpless that I can't help them find the way through KO.

    Grammie

    Posted by: Janet Hawkins at January 27, 2008 10:15 PM


    Grammie,

    I hope you're getting environmental hazard pay. :D

    The Dem sites like think progress, DU, and raw story have comments ripping Kurtz for being a tool and asking Olbermann biased questions. Yes, biased against Keith. Did they watch the same interview? I saw a cake walk.

    I love that Olbermann says he is "smart" enough to know when to be non-partisan. Then he admits he is not comfortable interviewing Rudy or Bush because he attacks them on his show. I guess Olbermann is not smart enough to know when he has contradicted himself.

    Posted by: The Factor at January 27, 2008 10:44 PM


    Good point. If he were that smart, he should be bright enough to know that he shouldn't be in a job which requires you to talk to pols of both parties.

    Kurtz asked him some pretty good questions I thought, but didn't challenge any of his BS responses, especially on O'Reilly. Now, as someone who watches Mr. Bill every night (along with Countdown I might add), I can say with certainty that Bill O'Reilly is neither "outrageous" nor "offensive", unless you are someone who cannot handle opposing points of view and must lash out in the most vicious and dishonest of ways. If O'Reilly were THAT offensive on a nightly basis, he would have more than just Keith and the crazy blue blogs covering him.

    And it was John Edwards' comment about 200,000 vets sleeping UNDER BRIDGES that drew Bill's criticism. He doesn't deny that there are homeless veterans out there; but when you have Bill O'Reilly Derangement Syndrome, sometimes it can be hard to tell the truth.

    What Keith said about O'Reilly - that he has to attack O'Reilly every night because otherwise his "lies" would be part of some imaginary "record" was funny considering that Olbermann has attacked me and this site quite a few times and I'd say that while applying his idea to O'Reilly is silly it is spot on with regard to him.

    Ktt - would you mind providing links to the threads on DU, Think Progress, etc. regarding the Kurtz interview of KO. Post them here and then I can bump them up into the post as an update.

    Looks like we're not the only ones dealing with Trolls...

    http://atrios.blogspot.com/2008_01_27_archive.html#3984599913399738086

    I don't agree with Duncan on much but on this I do.

    What Keith said about O'Reilly - that he has to attack O'Reilly every night because otherwise his "lies" would be part of some imaginary "record" was funny considering that Olbermann has attacked me and this site quite a few times and I'd say that while applying his idea to O'Reilly is silly it is spot on with regard to him.

    Posted by: Robert Cox at January 27, 2008 11:19 PM


    It's a particularly ironic comment from the idiot considering that he's merely regurgitating material from Media Matters.

    If the "success" of Countdown suggests the audience doesn't want 2 sides arguing, how would he explain O'Reilly having 4 times the audience with the arguing?

    Posted by: Great Thanks at January 27, 2008 10:04 PM


    I said the same thing on the other thread. I put it this way. O'Reilly is #1 and Olbermahn is #4.

    "O'Reilly makes it up as he goes along..."

    Hey Bathtub Boy, you told your viewers that Michelle Malkin actually got fired from "The O'Reilly Factor" instead of quitting. You still haven't produced the documentation for that. Talking about making stuff up. You pulled that out of...never mind. There might be kids reading this.

    I sure wish Michelle Malkin had sued him for that lie.

    > you told your viewers that Michelle Malkin actually got fired

    And Liz Claman. And Neil Cavuto. And Alexis Glick.

    And Major Garrett never reported any denials. And the NIE never mentioned uranium. And yada yada yada (insert any of the Top Ten Lies of 2006 and/or 2007 here).

    O'Reilly COULD make it up as he goes along, and he'd STILL have a better accuracy rate than the infamous, deplorable Keith Olbermann.

    I love the fact that Olbermann thinks that he is the first person on television to attack George Bush.
    It is also interesting that he thinks that people only watch Fox News because they thought everyone supported George Bush and that Fox News was the only source of information. This delusional fantasy that everyone in the media was afraid to criticize George Bush except him is very telling.

    So Howie Kurtz let Krazy Keith slide,
    We never saw that one coming!
    Reliable Sources has nothing to hide,
    Lefties never give their own a drumming.
    Fair and balanced, that's not Keith,
    Usual Worst Person, O'Reilly.
    From fruity guests we get no relief,
    And no Republican is rated highly.

    Olbermann is a liar. Howard had oppotunities to nail him and let him slide. Olbermann doesn't have anyone who disagrees because he's a coward. Hed has no intellectual thought and wouldn't be able to defend himself.

    While it is true that Kurtz did not ask the obvios follow ups when Olbermann started lying, the fact that he actually raised these isues is about as much as we are going to get from the MSM.

    I was actually amazed that a WaPo lefty confronted Olby on these issues. I think that Olby would like to name Kurtz a WPITW for betraying him, but Kurtz is an establishment lib and Olby would burn his bridges with Milbank and Eugene Robinson, his reliable WaPo stooges, for going after Kurtz. But believe me, Olby is none too happy with Kurtz.

    While it is true that Kurtz did not ask the obvios follow ups when Olbermann started lying, the fact that he actually raised these isues is about as much as we are going to get from the MSM.

    I was actually amazed that a WaPo lefty confronted Olby on these issues. I think that Olby would like to name Kurtz a WPITW for betraying him, but Kurtz is an establishment lib and Olby would burn his bridges with Milbank and Eugene Robinson, his reliable WaPo stooges, for going after Kurtz. But believe me, Olby is none too happy with Kurtz.

    Posted by: hank at January 28, 2008 1:22 AM


    I agree. I also think Kurtz "Hung him out to Dry" by not challenging him. To me, Olberman made a fool of himself and Howie knew it.

    You people are hilarious. I thought you said you counted lies? Seemed to me those where things you disagreed with. And you have no credibility when Bill O'Reilly is fine in your book but Keith is bad. Give me a break!

    People who agree with you are smart, but people who disagree with you are lefty loons. Pathetic pathetic pathetic.

    So Keith can't keep an eye on Bill (even though he should because he is the king of spin)? But you guys keeping an eye on Keith is legit? You people are just as inconsistent as Fox News. The spin starts here.

    And you all support Bush too, right? What is wrong with this world?!

    I see more bullshit and lies on this site than any other site I go to. This is sad, and your stubbornness around here is terrible. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

    Right wing propaganda, and it makes me sick

    I thought you said you counted lies? Seemed to me those where things you disagreed with.
    -----
    You hit that one on the head! Apparently, that is considered fun or fulfilling.

    Well...Olbermann lies.

    There is no way to defend many of his answers in light of recent and remote history (documented well here at OW) or with using common sense....

    I encourage my fellow clear thinkers here at OW to send rational, respectful and brief comments to Mr. Kurtz at CNN after viewing the clip or reading the transcript......

    http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?25


    ###
    Considering the poor ratings the show gets, I wonder if a small increase in show comments will get their attention and perhaps a different view of Olbermann's bad behavior (by way of a few well worded and strong comments) will be aired on a future show......One can only hope.

    Any exposure of Olbermann's pathology is healthy for our democracy and the problematic American media establishment.

    That last sentence of yours, Cee @ 7:00 a.m. doesn't make a lick of sense. You're really full of youself, which means your full of poop.

    "How is it you keep putting a show on about that one topic every night and call it news?" - Keith Olbermann

    What a hoot.

    Ten minutes and twenty-one lies
    Moonbat in "news anchor" disguise
    Sane folks will admit
    Krazy Keith's full of shit
    It's no wonder his colleagues despise

    Boy oh boy guest, I really would like to see your evidence to the contrary....Allow me to put it another way......

    By "Olbermann's pathology," I mean his denial that he is a pundit. Do you understand? He is claiming in the CNN interview that he is a journalist who is capable of seperating his roles......He is a journalist when he hosts COUNTDOWN and MSNBC election night coverage....BUT he does do commentary in the form of WPITW and his Special Comments....This is his claim.....

    He is lying. The entire content of COUNTDOWN is punditry from the left. OLBERMANN WATCH has documented the evidence very well. So, valid conclusions range from Olbermann is greatly mistaken (at best) or actually lying (worst)...either being wrong (pathological)......

    Proper labeling of news or commentary is a basic journalist ethic.....MSNBC COUNTDOWN and Olbermann is labeled as news and journalist.....this is false....So, guest....please address the claim that I am full of poop....You give no evidence to defeat my conclusions.

    I got unlucky, and caught the "Orange Idiot" by accident. Laughed that he tried to sound normal for the interview, and I suspect he nailed a 10mg. valium 45 min. til air. Either that or his idiotic voice showing outrage is an act...Face it, Olbergoebbels, if you take away Huffpost,MediaMatters,and DailyKos, you have no script. You have the same 5 morons on as "knowledgeable experts", and never mind having on a guest with a dissenting opinion like O'Reilly does every night. You couldn't debate your way out of a paper bag, you orange cunt....His entire career is built around Bush and O'Reilly, real winner Olbergoebbels. I just thank God this site exists, so I don't have to watch you make an ass of yourself, I can just read about it the next morning. By the way, did anyone ever investigate "Bathtub" to see if anyone on his staff mailed the mysterious white powder to Olbergoebbels during the Anthrax scare???? I mean, did Al-Queda really know who Olberdouche was, or was it a ratings gag?

    Got yanked already.

    TRUTH AND TRUTHINESS

    Not yanked already.

    ORGANIC TRUTH.

    ORGANIC TENETS OF TRUTH.

    He wanted to leave because he was just so STRONG. What a douche.

    ORGANIC STRENGTH.

    PALPABLE ORGANIC STRUCTURAL TRUTH.

    NO WORD USED TWICE, SIR, SWATH, EMULATING ORGANICALLY.

    AN ORGANIC SWATH OF EMULATION.

    SIR.

    NOT ENENCUWATING RS TO ORGANICWY EMUWATE TOM BROKAW.

    I guess I'm sorry Cee. I got to this site by mistake. I thought this was about politics. You're full of poop, but apparently you're not the only one here. Your only claim to being you unique is you think poop is brains.

    Video dead?

    Cee, I came across this @ NewsBusters:

    "Ben Stein Documentary: Intelligent Design Scholars Muzzled By Scientific Establishment" and thought you might enjoy it.

    "http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kevin-mooney/2008/01/28/intelligent-design-proponents-muzzled-scientific-establishment-new-doc

    Grammie

    Midas, it worked for me just a few minutes ago.

    There is a link to the video @ News Busters.

    Grammie

    This site is so much better now that RCox has taken out some of the loons. Now we can all sit around and agree on the same stuff all day long.
    I'd like to add my two cents too now that I feel I won't be harrassed.

    Bush is awesome.
    Olby is orange and has a big fat ass.
    Fox news rules!

    Wow, this is liberating!

    I thought you said you counted lies? Seemed to me those where things you disagreed with.
    -----
    You hit that one on the head! Apparently, that is considered fun or fulfilling.

    Posted by: Guest at January 28, 2008 5:18 AM

    How about some evidence to the contrary that they're not lies? I won't hold my breath....

    "Bush is awesome."

    Unless you are a tween Republican, I would use other adjectives....Bush is rarely mentioned by most here....and when he is discussed it is usually with one of the banned trolls with BDS.......


    ###
    "Olby is orange and has a big fat ass."

    Again, not seen as much....I like to mention the various eyeglass frames that make him look like a metrosexual, but that is simply my problem, not the board's.


    ###
    "Fox news rules!"

    Again, FNC is rarely discussed here except with trolls or when Olbermann decides to curse the darkness that is his silly obsession, Fox's Bill O'Reilly....

    I would venture that there is very diverse opinion about #1 and #3 on the list here at OW....The personal appearance of Keith Olbermann is simply a matter of good taste and so far I have not formed an overall opinion of the majority's reaction to his skin tone, his physique or his choice of clothing/accessories....

    We'll see if a consensus is reached.

    Hopefully RCox gets rid of the rest of the loons. I have faith in him.

    That will show those loons! I hate loons!!

    Chicken Blogger, if you feel that an atmosphere generally free from profane, obscene, sexual (of late very much about bestiality) perversity cramps your style so much you might be a profane, obscene sexual pervert.

    I am sorry that you feel that is the only way you can express your opinion and that R Cox has hogtied you.

    Might I suggest that you get the hell out of Dodge, put the pedal to the metal and rush to those sites that set you free. I am surprised you could stand it here long enough to comment.

    Bye-bye!

    Grammie

    Posts Grammie:

    "Chicken Blogger, if you feel that an atmosphere generally free from profane, obscene, sexual (of late very much about bestiality) perversity cramps your style so much you might be a profane, obscene sexual pervert.

    I am sorry that you feel that is the only way you can express your opinion and that R Cox has hogtied you.

    Might I suggest that you get the hell out of Dodge, put the pedal to the metal and rush to those sites that set you free. I am surprised you could stand it here long enough to comment.

    Bye-bye!

    Grammie"

    END QUOTE

    I would not write some of the stuff I write but I can give as good as I can receive. Liberals can not stand for people to stand up to them like Mike. He thinks it's OK to call people morons, idiots, stupid...........but when you call him a chicken shit he falls all to pieces. Then they start whining about my right to freedom of speech. These liberals are idiots. I don't go over to Huffingtonpost, MoveOn.org or DailyKos no. 1 because I aint a faggot. That's all that are on those websites, left wing loons, the "have nots', the losers, the ones always looking up, the fags, euncuhs, men haters....................I got sense enough to know the only way you could change one of their minds is beat the shit out of them and that would be a 50-50 possibility or give one of them a million dollars and instant republican.

    Posted above:

    "Olby is orange and has a big fat ass."

    END QUOTE

    It would be an improvement if they shaved Olytards ass and had him sit up on his desk facing away from the camera. Now that would be an improvement. But, you still get shit out both holes.

    You left out pot belly. The man looks like he is about to give birth at any minute.

    Phony Soldier, you are a moron. A bigger moron than Grammie, but not as big as Cee.

    Phony Soldier, you are a moron. A bigger moron than Grammie, but not as big as Cee.

    Posted by: Abduhl at January 28, 2008 1:31 PM


    Translation: He can't refute anything anyone says so he'll just resort to name calling.

    You're right, I cannot comment on Olbermann's butt. I'll leave that to you and Phony Soldjuh.

    I don't think Grammie, cee or I have commented on the orange faced hacks ass. Another losing argument for you. Next feeble attempt? I await.

    I am disappointed in Howard Kurtz. You would think he would have pressed Olbermann more on his "popularity" since often a CNN and Headline news show beat Olbermann in ratings. Olbermann is also highly critical of Lou Dobbs and Anderson Copper who are on CNN. Whatever Kurtz's feelings on O'Reilly are, one would have thought that Kurtz would have pressed Olbermann more on Olbermann's claims of being a "journalist". I am also disappointed that Olbermann was interview by himself instead of being stuck on Kurtz's panel. The bookcase in back of Olbermann made me want to vomit also.

    I am sorry that you feel that is the only way you can express your opinion and that R Cox has hogtied you.

    Bye-bye!

    Grammie

    Posted by: Janet Hawkins at January 28, 2008 12:20 PM


    Hogtied? Now who's the one with the sick sexual innuendo? I'm betting the old lady really used to get around in her day. Probably the town pump.

    It is a metaphor. I wasn't talking about hogs, but any porcine creature, and I wasn't talking about tying, but any form of non-colonic binding.

    IP address, please!

    RK, I suggest we stop feeding the troll /trolls for today.

    Have you noticed that there are several comments on each thread that run in a theme. It looks like they may be starting a new theme.

    If we feed them they will only scratch, sniff and scent mark all day.

    In other words, IGNORE THE FLUCKERS!

    Thanks RK.

    Grammie

    Thank you for minding your own business Grammie.

    RCox, whatever you do, please DO NOT scan Phony Soldier's comments for obscenity. He is a valuable contributor to this site and his heart is in the right place.

    Plus, he obviously agrees with us.

    Can we have a special section tomorrow to write about how good the SOU address was? You're not going to ban that address to, are you?

    The bookcase in back of Olbermann made me want to vomit also.

    Posted by: The Factor at January 28, 2008 1:57 PM

    Me too.
    Who the hell really cares how much he reads? Is that supposed to make him better than me? Is he supposed to be smarter than me because he reads books?

    Please. I see right through that Olbyloon diversion. The sign of a true loon is reading. First they tell you how much they read, and then they want to be praised for it.

    "If we feed them they will only scratch, sniff and scent mark all day."

    Ah, shit Grammie..
    Now you went and got me all horny, thanks.

    Its not like I never thought about reading a book. Damn arrogant libruls and all their reading.

    I'm still waiting for "Great Moments in Broadcast Journalism" from Mr. Dollar highlighting John Gibson's wonderful comments on Heath Ledger's death...

    Oh thats right, I forgot, Johnny Dollar is a wingnut who will go to extraordinary lengths to protect his wingnut bretheren.

    Guess I shouldnt keep my hopes up for that video...darn.

    I just find it very arogant and self-agrandizing for Olbermann to do is interview in front of a book case. Considering the fact that he lifts the material for his show from web blogs and considering that he wasted a valuable Cornell education on a vaped subject like communications. That is the kind of subject that a football player who could not spell his name on the ACT would major in at the University of Miami.

    One thing I do miss is the arrogant leftists like Why, Loin and Mike predicting easy wins for their elite leadership......

    "A rendezvous with destiny........."


    ###
    Senator Kennedy uses a classic Ronald Reagan quote to line up his endorcement of the nonestablishment candidate.....Senator Obama....OH BOY....Clinton Co. cannot like this speech......The leftist dinosaur even mentions those who served honorably in Vietnam.....a thinly hidden swipe at Bill Clinton, no doubt......

    The democrats are at war with another....Hillary is even trying to line up delegates from Michigan and Florida despite the national party's ruling regarding their primary dates.....boy, another great tactic that provides reason for unity and trust amonst the left's upper crust.......

    Hope, the future, what a message from Senator Kennedy today!.....Too bad there is a powerful behemoth standing between the sweet black guy and The White House.......

    HRC!!!!!!!

    "A rendezvous with destiny........."

    Oh well......and I guess I should mention that Reagan did use it after FDR used it ......

    I guess we can't expect politicans to be original.

    I enjoyed this at Scrapple Face:

    "South Carolina Loss Jars Clinton to Ponder Pull Out
    by Scott Ott for ScrappleFace · 13 Comments

    (2008-01-27) — After a crushing defeat in Saturday’s South Carolina primary, the Democrat who campaigned most vigorously, coming into the state with the strongest organization and the best name recognition, now ponders whether to stay in the race through Super Tuesday."

    Full article @:

    http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2875

    Grammie

    Olbermann boasts that he hardly ever attended classes at Cornell, as if it is something to be proud of. By his own admission, his grades were mediocre at best, just enough to keep him enrolled. Perhaps that explains his overall ignorance on a great many subjects.

    Hey Kids,

    Did you catch the FBI agent George Piro interview on 60 Minutes last night? It was compelling on all levels. Top ten TV moments of the young year for sure.

    The guy had 100% credibility and touched on a lot of myths about Saddam leading up to the war. If not check it out on the 60 minutes website.

    Why do you Olby haters keep hating with your hateful attitudes? I am really glad Olbermann uses his news show to talk about O'Reilly and Brtney Spears and paris Hilton. This is what people really care about. He shold talk more about O'Reilly because he is the same kind of hating hater as the hating haters on this website and that really is the kind of news that a news department should be bringing to our living rooms every night.

    Oh thats right, I forgot, Johnny Dollar is a wingnut who will go to extraordinary lengths to protect his wingnut bretheren.

    Guess I shouldnt keep my hopes up for that video...darn.

    Posted by: So what? at January 28, 2008 3:09 PM


    Might I suggest gibsonsonwatch.com.....Is there such a thing? Maybe the news mutts have 60 page screed on the subject.

    Speakiing of credibility, the Olby haters are always whining that Olby don't have guests who don't agree, as if that makes what he say untrue.

    When you get smart people on the show who agree with Olbermann that shows right there that he is right. If you had somebody who disagreed that would just get things confused. It is better to have just one opinion that everybody can agree with.

    The critics are just jealous. You claim Olby lies but if Olby were really lying the smart people who are guests on his show would recognize the lies and point it out, so that shows that Olby is not lying no matter what you haters think.

    Hey anti-hater

    Is that you Rudy?

    I'm struck by Olbermann telling Howard Kurtz that no one thought he was a liberal in 1998, when he was doing all those "negative" shows about Clinton on MSNBC's The Big Show.

    Well, I beg to differ. I well remember that conservatives were labeling Olbermann as a liberal back in the day. Of course, to Olbermann, that's the same as "nobody".

    Any show that covered the scandal of the president having an affair, lying about it in court and to the public, and using govt agencies to thwart a law suit involving a discovery process against him, would inherently be doing "negative" coverage of Clinton.

    Along with Clinton defenders, critics of tv coverage of the scandal, and critics of Republican handing of the scandal, The Big Show also had Clinton opponents as guests. In Olbermann's mind, these dynamics alone add up to what he calls negative Clinton coverage and by negative coverage he really means PARTISAN coverage.

    Lewinsky scandal + equal-time Clinton critic guests = partisan Clinton coverage.

    Olbermann thinks simply by covering the scandal nightly and giving voice to some Clinton critics, that MSNBC was in effect becoming RNC tv.

    In reality Olbermann was on The Big Show voicing his views that the Republican House Managers were analogous to KKK Grand Wizards and that OIC Ken Starr's appearance resembled Heinrich Himmler's.

    Now it's meaningless to Olbermann that conservatives were calling him a liberal in the days of The Big Show. Who cares what those extremist freaks think.
    However, shouldn't it strike him as odd that he could criticize nightly coverage of the biggest news story of the day, liken Clinton opponents to monsters, and eventually quit his job to avoid covering the matter entirely AND NO ONE IN THE MSM CALLED HIM A LIBERAL?

    It took "Special (and no so special) Comments" attacking Bush, calling the Republican Party terrorists, airing every blue blog conspiracy theory on the web, a ban on Bush supporter guests, and calling for Bush's impeachment or resignation... for the MSM to finally label Keith Olbermann a "liberal"...

    Good lord! Maybe his new diary on Daily Kos where he hopes for Democratic election victory has done some good towards erasing any lingering doubts...in the minds of Olbermann's colleagues...

    These folks will NEVER see that the most threatening institutional bias in their profession is not filtered down through corporate stockholders. It's their own parochial arrogance and isolation.

    And the most arrogant, most resistant to institutional change, most blinkered snob and ideologue of them all, is now billed as a media touchstone for unvarnished fearless truth.

    Yeah... the guy who daily lives out the combined scripts of Groundhog Day and All the President's Men is our modern day Edward Murrow.

    Has the media ever looked so ridiculous?


    The reality

    At the time of this coverage on The Big Show, Olbermann was

    Cecelia, cut KO some slack.

    I distinctly heard him say that he really wants every segment to be a new and segment. I am sure that was the principal he was trying to operate on back then.

    Doing segments on an investigation, impeachment and Senate trial of a sitting President gets so tiresome and partisan and hateful.

    As a fearless Truth to Power type of guy he has rethought his priorities and realizes BOR, Fox News and the RNC are stories that warrant continual, even repetitition day in and day out, week in and week out, month in and month out, year in and year out.

    Please forgive me for being so repetitive in my sentence.

    Grammie

    The critics are just jealous. You claim Olby lies but if Olby were really lying the smart people who are guests on his show would recognize the lies and point it out, so that shows that Olby is not lying no matter what you haters think.

    Posted by: Anti-Hater at January 28, 2008 4:08 PM


    Get out much? Ever heard the term 'puppet?' His lies are not based on what we 'think.' There is abundant evidence. What ever you do, don't you dare look at the top of this page.

    RK, reread Anti -Hater's comments a few times and if they are not satire they damn well should be.

    Grammie

    Please forgive me for being so repetitive in my sentence.

    Grammie

    Posted by: Janet Hawkins at January 28, 2008 4:24 PM


    As they say about voting, Grammy, please repeat these statements "early and often"...

    Yes, Olbermann knows the "real" enemy and it is "us"...

    In the midst of Olbermann blaming the evil Bush Administration for his new-found (right...) political activism, it's too bad Kurtz didn't ask him to explain his statement likening FNC to Al Qaeda.

    As the interview revealed......

    Olbermann covers Bill O'Reilly everynight because O'Reilly makes him do it......

    Olbermann prohibits the appearance of any politican right of Joe Liebermann's left pinky toe because those "right-wingers" make him do it..........

    Olbermann goes after Bush because Bush makes him do it......

    Ok...


    Cee,

    FNC, aside.... but for having to counter the dangers of a Republican president, Republican pols and rightwingers, Olbermann would be non-political...

    Isn't wonderful to know that with the exception of a few particularly bad culprits (Bush, Giuliani), Olbermann can put aside the mantle these rogues forced upon him and offer up unbiased political commentary concerning them.

    How about a collective sigh of relief, everyone...

    I've been an MSNBC watcher for years. Thanks on my behalf, MSNBC!...

    You haters are amazing! It just never stops with you people.

    The reason I watch Olbermann so much is that he does not promote hate like all the others and I am dedicated to stopping the hate. Back in 1998 when right wingers were busy hating Clinton, Olbermann gritted his teeth and did over 200 consecutive shows about the persecution of President Bill and Hillary Clinton. Olbermann realized it was all nothing but hate and got disgusted and left the show.

    Now Olbermann shines the light where the neo cons can be exposed for all to see. The neo con haters hate Olbermann because he is trying to do good in the world by telling everyone what haters they are. Olbermann recognizes hate when he sees it because of the hating that went on when the right wing tried to impeach.

    If Keith had people on his show who disagreed with him, it would just lead to more hate and we already have too much hate. Watch Olbermann and forget about your right wing hate.

    MSNBC announced that Olbermann will be giving his own State-of-the-Union report or "verdict" prior to the President's SOTU address.

    Immediately after his show, Olbermann will then switch chairs (hah!) and co-anchor the news desk for coverage of Bush's address.

    An MSNBC spokesperson said, "Keith has proven himself to be the consummate broadcaster both on election night coverage and on previous SOTU coverage."

    Right, so consummate that he admits he had to recuse himself from interviewing Giuliani and, if he appeared, not question Bush as well.

    Let's see: he'll call for Bush to resign, denounce him as a fascist Nazi monster, say Bush has destroyed the Republic, and then take off his pundit hat and report objectively.

    That he is allowed to pull this nonsense is just crazy.

    Crazy.

    Anti-Hater, where have you been all this time I was locked in my Neo Con trap of hatred b/c I failed to REALLY hear what KO was saying.

    Praise MSNBC and KO for their heroic efforts to remove the scales from my eyes.

    I am such an unworthy vessel!

    Grammie

    Did you catch the FBI agent George Piro interview on 60 Minutes last night? It was compelling on all levels. Top ten TV moments of the young year for sure.

    The guy had 100% credibility and touched on a lot of myths about Saddam leading up to the war. If not check it out on the 60 minutes website.

    Posted by: benson at January 28, 2008 3:50 PM

    Wait, I'm confused...
    I thought 60 Minutes was a left wing hack show? Has it regained its credibility?

    Why do you Olby haters keep hating with your hateful attitudes? I am really glad Olbermann uses his news show to talk about O'Reilly and Brtney Spears and paris Hilton. This is what people really care about. He shold talk more about O'Reilly because he is the same kind of hating hater as the hating haters on this website and that really is the kind of news that a news department should be bringing to our living rooms every night.

    Posted by: Anti- Hater at January 28, 2008 3:58 PM

    Please keep all conversations on topic. This means please discuss his ass, eyeglasses, skin hue, ass, or eyeglasses. Oh yeah and his skin hue.

    Please don't talk about Britney, Paris, Bush or the economy. You have been warned. The next step is banishment.

    Steve,

    I've said it before and I'll say it ...endlessly...again... :D

    Think of poor Matthews, Russert, and Brokaw.

    Keith has been accorded this promotion so he can gather in an audience who think his colleagues are largely corporate shills...

    Olbermann is cohosting (as contrasted with merely being a commenter), in order to "keep it real" and make the pols answer in a way that MSNBC implies these others guys can't be trusted to do...

    I think the late writer Paddy Chayefsky would have a field day with this. :D


    When you get smart people on the show who agree with Olbermann that shows right there that he is right. If you had somebody who disagreed that would just get things confused. It is better to have just one opinion that everybody can agree with.

    The critics are just jealous. You claim Olby lies but if Olby were really lying the smart people who are guests on his show would recognize the lies and point it out, so that shows that Olby is not lying no matter what you haters think.

    Posted by: Anti-Hater at January 28, 2008 4:08 PM

    Kind of like the other side on this site.

    As long you agree with RCox's mission statement you will be fine.

    Bob - sorry I didn't see your post earlier

    You have the Think Progress and Raw Story addresses already.

    Here's the DU one where you'll find "Keith schools Whorie Kurtz about what a journalist should be"

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2773279


    The kids at Either Relevant or True had some issues with Kurtz being unfair also. You can check if it's worth your trouble. By the way, they're buying the answer for him not having any opposing viewpoints, thinking it would result in a shout fest. This makes no sense. He can't speak to someone who disagrees with him because it would be too heated? Is there no such thing as a civil conversation between two people?

    Get out much? Ever heard the term 'puppet?' His lies are not based on what we 'think.' There is abundant evidence. What ever you do, don't you dare look at the top of this page.

    Posted by: royal king at January 28, 2008 4:24 PM

    This is the genius Grammie and Cecelia choose to align with and defend.

    RK, you ARE the weakest link. Goodbye.

    our troll posted a few more comments today. The are rather obvious. I deleted them. I am not going to aggressively monitor the troll, just let the troll waste their time writing comments and the going in 1-2 times a day and deleting their handiwork. This will work better if, as I said yesterday, folks do not quote the troll - and even better if people will just ignore the troll.

    This is the genius Grammie and Cecelia choose to align with and defend.

    RK, you ARE the weakest link. Goodbye.

    Posted by: at January 28, 2008 6:00 PM


    You got to admit, it's a very strong chain. No proof of the 'lies that aren't lies?' Shocker.

    The problem with this site is that everyone is allowed to express their opinion. This just leads to hate. Keith shuts down all that hate by keeping the comments confined to stuff that he agrees with-- which is stuff that is accurate and strictly fact checked so it's OK that Keith wants the conversation to be with people who are going to say what he says.

    All these different opinions on this site just show how much right wingers love to hate.

    Cecelia:
    "Think of poor Matthews, Russert, and Brokaw."

    I have to think that deep inside they're not happy campers. Olbermann is becoming the brand for the network. And all the years of work for those individuals - whether you like them or not (and Russert's "gotcha" technique is wearing thin) - is being tossed away in favor of this person.

    This is just insane what he's doing; or being allowed to do.

    No professional reporter or news anchor has any business pulling this.

    If he wants to be a commentator, so be it. If he wants to be a news anchor, again so be it.

    But you can't be both.

    Posted by: Anti-Hater at January 28, 2008 6:22 PM

    Kool-Aid! Get Your 'Ice Cold' Kool-Aid right here!

    That's my son "anti-hate" spreading his "love" for all to see!

    He loves defending my biggest cell Olbermann, who hates everything about America.

    He loves to defend anybody who hates America.

    He loves to preach hating hate, while his way of preaching it consists only of loving the lies and the liar and loving every bit of it.

    He loves liars, crooks, one-sided conversations, being obnoxious and defending the one man I have sent to America (Olbermann) who preaches more hate that any other known American.

    Now that my sons, is what I call the epitomy of what love is all about: "hating hate by loving the man who surrounds himself in it."

    If I didn't see it said on this site I wouldn't believe it. Yes, "anti-hater" you are certainly another one of my followers, and have done yourself proud today. The below statement by you is just beautiful. I will treasure it forever. Allah be blessed!

    Keith shuts down all that hate by keeping the comments confined to stuff that he agrees with-- which is stuff that is accurate and strictly fact checked so it's OK that Keith wants the conversation to be with people who are going to say what he says.

    Akuba!!! Ayeee!!!!

    Just a thought,

    When I looked at the Think Progress story I saw 272 comments. And I do believe you have to register to get on to make one.

    Raw Story, which I found I was already on because I had registered somewhere else. Had only 22 comments.

    It makes me wonder, how many of those 272 comments might have been made by the same person?

    I've noticed the same thing at Media Matters. A lot of counts are low except when it's O'Reilly as the subject or FNC. Then the comment meter go's berserk.

    Pattern?

    Anti-hate's tongue seems be firmly planted in his cheek, you all...

    6:22, when you make posts like that, you might just be an olbyoon. That has to be one of the best spins for not allowing 'disenting' opinions I have ever read, i.e. olbypologist.

    When Kurtz asked Olbermann if the Bush Administration had done him a favor in a sense, Olbermann replied:

    ...."would have given what I have, in terms of broadcasting success and the nature of this newscast...if I was given a choice of this or some responsible presidency in the last four years or eight years, I would have taken a responsible presidency" ...

    I"m hoping that this means that Keith's vital work will be finished at the end of the Bush Administration.

    Afterall, aren't the Bushies and their criminality the unique motivation for his political advocacy and THE national emergency that necessitates his not allowing an alternative opinion on Countdown?

    However, after the Bush Administration leaves office, I think it's more likely that Olbermann's philosophy will quickly evolve into his being willing to give up all his success if he just didn't have to be a television clearinghouse for blue-blog material on Bill O'Reilly, evil Republican politicians, Fox Noise, and rightwing Christians. :D

    In Olbermann's favor, we certainly know from history that this modern day Nathan Hale IS willing to give up a national tv show if he's forced to cover a scandal involving a Democratic president.

    We'll just have to keep our fingers crossed...

    The CNN interview was hardly a hard-hitting one. However, it was compared to the puff pieces that Olbermann gets from his buddies at places like Rolling Stone.

    Put aside his rampant lies during the interview. What was more interesting was his obvious evasions. Had Kurtz been a Tim Russert or a real interviewer he would have followed him up on some of his non-answers.

    Case in point...

    Olbermann deflects a question about his ridiculously one-sided booking of guests by recounting a story about a DNC and RNC argument that he once had on a show and didn't like it.

    What an obvious dodge!!!

    That was not the point. Nobody said he should run a debate show. All he needs to do to avoid this would be to book ONE person who doesn't agree with him and engage that person in a civil discussion. That way there would be give and take of ideas (a concept that Olbermann aparently finds distasteful.)

    Kurtz could have asked something along the lines as this:

    "You have styled yourself the new Murrow. You even use his "Goodnight and Good Luck" line. However, Murrow had the "guts" to have on Joseph McCarthy and confront him. If you really feel that these people are the "worst in the world" wouldn't it incumbent on you to confront them, and engage them in the battlefield of ideas, rather than call them names from a safe distance."

    Alas, that won't happen.

    Howie Kurtz forgot to ask one tiny question:

    Krazy Keith, let's suppose for a minute that your show is not a parody of an unhinged leftist dingbat. If you were to become a parody of an unhinged leftist dingbat, what would you have to change?

    "Howie Kurtz forgot to ask one tiny question:

    Krazy Keith, let's suppose for a minute that your show is not a parody of an unhinged leftist dingbat. If you were to become a parody of an unhinged leftist dingbat, what would you have to change?"


    Posted by: Rico at January 28, 2008 10:15 PM

    See! More hate!

    It takes guts to stand up aginst hate. Of all news anchors, Olbermann is the one to draw the line against Republicans who show their hate by abandoning the Katrina victims, jacking up gas prices and rigging elections.

    Keith blows the whistle on issues like this when others are afraid to. Keith knows he have to endure abuse because he confronts hate, but he is a real man who digs deep to get the story no matter what. Instead of hating him, we should be grateful for his willingness to make the sacrifices he makes to make this a better, less hateful world .

    Edward R. Murrow covered the war with bombs blasting around him. Keith has never been to Iraq... or anywhere else for that matter. Journalist indeed.

    Instead of hating him, we should be grateful for his willingness to make the sacrifices he makes to make this a better, less hateful world .

    Posted by: Anti-Hater at January 28, 2008 10:36 PM


    Apparently this loon has not been around long enough to know that his fearfull leader tell people that disagree with him to "go kill yourself," "go f**k your mother," gives the nazi salute, calls people "monkeyman." He calls O'Reilly "Orally" oh yea, he's spreading the love, all right!

    RK,

    It is a rare day when a leftist dingbat responds directly to a challenge. In typical loon fashion they usually veer off on a new tangent, thowing out code words like "hater", "Katrina", and the dreaded "Fox".

    Oh, the horror!

    I wonder why Kieth didn't bother attacking the Global Warming Creator GE when he was sucking the big black shlongs of the NFL players this year? Too much spinal fortitude, intelligence and conscience in Kieth to mention anything?

    Did he miss out on the 25MW worth of lights used on the set to illuminate Bob Costas?

    Didn't have the balls to say even one little peep about it?

    What a douche. Just a huge douche. Look at him, ferchirssakes, playing a teenager's little game.

    Douche.

    Hey BOBO!

    Krazy Keith is the most biased personality on any of the cable networks. Do you deny this? If you can name one person more biased than him, do so. And you had better give examples. Let's review Countdown. Virtually every guest who has been on the show is a lefty. Virtually every WPITW(that is a political figure) has been a righty. Top that.

    And regarding Katrina, the local and state authorities have the primary responsibility to help their own people. I lived through a big one in LA in January 1994 and not one person there ever though that it was FEMA's job to dig them out of the rubble.

    BOBO,

    You prove my point again by not even trying to make your case. You just throw out the accusations(in lockstep with all other dingbat leftists). Code words is all we get from you, "Hannity", "Fox", "Katrina". Don't you ever get bored of being a broken record? Guess not!

    And the "Katrina disaster" was seen that way only by leftist dingbats like yourself and the MSM, which is virtually all leftist dingbats.

    But the funniest response from you is all of the Bush stuff. Obviously you have Bush On The Brain. He is your obsession. What do I think of him? He's no rocket scientist but I will take him over any of the screwballs on your side.

    Peace, BOBO!

    Ah, how I love you "Americans!"

    When a natural disaster hits your country like Katrina, the weak one known as Why says that giving these poor families better homes than they lived in before the disaster hit is a bad thing!

    America used to be a nation where its people never relied on any outside help to get them through, as the people digged down to do it themselves.

    Now after your government spent more money helping its people through it than any other natural disaster this "why" says that the help given by your government was not enough!

    As if food stamps, free health, welfare wasn't enough, and now after giving the people free homes it STILL isn't enough!

    And, after all this given from your American president, there actually are others like this "why" that cry that he hasn't done enough to help.

    Me thinks that if these others like "why" lived in any other country but America, that their crying about their evil president and government would never be heard again.

    Of course if they lived in another country it would make America much stronger which is more the reason that they help my cause by staying put. That and the fact that the more these traitors cry the stronger I get.

    Keep it up "why" because without you and your followers my cause would be lost. You have served me well. Allah has given you His blessing!

    Akuba! Ayeee!!!!

    Oh my you are so desperate to get STUFF on Olby you are really stretching. First Olby's ratings are not 1/4th of the bloviating pin head sexual Perv on THE SPIN ZONE. So what Brit Hume does not do election coverage? Who cares, Hume is a one sided stuffed suit for the GOP. (ewww ann counlter is looking at me with those dead eyes, at the bottom of the page with the word FREE, ha ha.) As far as the 20 or 21 LIES, what are the lies? I don't get it. The media should have their tongues up the Govs a**. Please if it was not for MSNBC and KO, watching and calling out Fox and the GOP, it would be worse. You all need to wake up and grow up. Fox is one of the most RIGHT wing propaganda machines of all time and you drink it like crazy koolaid with out batting an eye. BUSH? Please give me KO and Clinton's before Bush. At least they are not incompetent.

    BOBO,

    HS history books are written by leftist dingbats, these books are published by leftist dingbat school book publishers, and purchased by leftist dingbat school administrators for leftist dingbat school teachers to pass out to their students. The people who run the public schools in this country are Democrats. Unionized teachers ain't Republicans, BOBO. I expect them to be unhinged about Bush, Limbaugh, Katrina, Fox, and Iraq.

    "... the damage this president has done to our country"? There is nothing wrong with this country. We are doing fine. Unemployment is what, 5%? Historically, that is incredibly low. As far as I am concerned, this country is doing very well. There's four cars in every driveway in my neighborhood, the backyards are filled with more toys than I ever saw as a kid, people take the family to Outback for dinner all of the time, blowing 80 bucks like it was nothing. Americans are living far better than ever before.

    Somehow you are under the impression that just because you and yours are in a tizzy every minute of the day over Bush that this means that the sky is falling. It ain't, so get over it.

    Toby Keith? Sorry, I don't do hillbilly. Not that anything is wrong with that. I prefer to play the blues and jazz.

    Anti-hate's tongue seems be firmly planted in his cheek, you all...

    Posted by: Cecelia at January 28, 2008 6:57 PM

    Those are YOUR geniuses Cecelia.
    More brain power from YOUR side. It must make you feel so smart to align with such intellect.

    And regarding Katrina, the local and state authorities have the primary responsibility to help their own people. I lived through a big one in LA in January 1994 and not one person there ever though that it was FEMA's job to dig them out of the rubble.

    Posted by: Rico at January 29, 2008 12:18 AM


    Do you actuall think 'why' will lay any blame on a (d)? Hence the term, hack.

    BOBO,

    Why don't you tell me who is in the middle, then? Do you claim to be?

    Mr. Cox, could you please do something about Osama bin Laden posting out here?

    Could you please give his IP address to the authorities? I find it very odd that you continue to let one of the scariest terrorists in the whole wide world post out here.

    BOBO,

    "Toby Keith is mainstream country...hardly hillbilly."

    You are such a music nerd. Anybody worried about the nuance between country and hillybilly is a little too uptight. Chill, brother! It's all the same to me. Anyways, "mainstream country" has evolved into rock'n'roll sung by people with an accent. Who cares?

    And don't get started on that Richard Whatever dude from Fairport Convention again. Not interested. You should spend less time cataloging music and more time trying to make some. Or are you tone deaf? Bet you dance like a white guy, too.

    Our history books are pretty accurate and basically non biased.
    That's a fact.

    posted by why

    With no proof, of course. Just his far left indoctrinating opinion.

    Hey BOBO,

    Can you answer this? What's the greatest 45 record ever made?

    It's the one with Wild Thing on both sides. One side is somebody doing the song as Everett Dirkson, and the other they're doing it as Bobby Kennedy. It rocks!!!

    BOBO, since I am gainfully employed, I must leave you to RK for the rest of the evening. Enjoy.

    Peace, BOBO!!!

    In U.S. history class students are taught the basics of United States background. Such things include the Civil War, the Roaring 20s, the Great Depression, and oh yeah … Ronald Reagan is evil.

    “Why?” asks one of the braver classmates.

    My teacher’s response? “Wel l… um … huh … Iran Contra.”

    Iran Contra? This singular reason is enough to describe Reagan with words like Satanic. But what about it? Does that one mark really outweigh every other thing he did in office?

    Besides, just how many rape allegations does the Gipper have under that dark, cruel belt of his?

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15953

    Quoting from "Human Events" should be immediate grounds for expulsion, perhaps even emulsion.

    Have a nice day.

    Think, let me school you on a few things. You listed Sean Hannity, Brit Hume, and Glenn Beck for being "biased. First off, Hannity & Beck run O-P-I-N-I-O-N shows. Not news show. Opinion shows. Not News. Get it? Apparently not. Olbermann meanwhile, claims to run a N-E-W-S program, as he restated on Sunday with Howie Kurtz. Apparently in your MISGUIDED thinking, you seem to be under the delusion that Olby's little show is a NEWS program. It is not even though that's what Olby claims it is. See, that's called L-Y-I-N-G. Olby is rather good at it and of course, he's aided and abetted by people who clearly do not "Think" like you.

    And in so far as Brit Hume goes, he has had a long, distinguished career as an actualy NEWS reporter (not a sports flunkie) where among other things, he uncovered REPUBLICAN dirty-doings during the Nixon era. Oh yeah, he's biased alright. Anywho, he hosts a political ANALYSIS program on Fox, not a news show. Get the difference? Again, the answer with you "Think" is apparently Not.

    Critical thinking skills are apparently beyond you. News vs. Opinion. I know it's confusing when such a biased hack like Olby claims to run a News program that is clearly an opinion show but again, for the record, Hume, Beck, Hannity=OPINION. Olby= Opinion disguised and presented and labeld as News.

    I have to disagree slightly with the clear-thinking Brandon. Hume's program on FNC is news. He offers no opinions, and doesn't call any political party terrorists. There is opinion on the program, in the last segment with the analysis panel, but here also Hume only moderates and does not offer opinions. When he does engage in analysis it's on someone else's program (Chris Wallace) and it is analysis, not the partisan tub thumping of Herr Olbermoronn.

    Johnny, are you blind or are you lying to yourself? Hume is pure opinion in a thinly guised news setting. He editorializes throughout his entire show, by what is being covered, and by what is not being covered; by placement; by time allotted; by inflection; by facial expression; by body language. I don't have any problem with that, and with so discernible a set of biases, I can 'translate'. I find it a good, solid show, but news, in any objective sense, it clearly is not.

    I do agree with you that, historically, he was a good, solid newsman, despite his smug demeanor.

    > He editorializes throughout his entire show, by what is being covered, and by what is not being covered; by placement; by time allotted; by inflection; by facial expression; by body language.

    Inflection and body language? Maybe you can get a job doing the "body language" segment on The Factor. Unfortunately for your claim, a recent study found the hard news portion of Hume's program to be the most fair and evenly balanced (Dem vs GOP) of all the news programs surveyed. I guess they didn't have your keen eye for "facial expression".

    http://www.cmpa.com/releases/07_12_21_Election_Study.pdf

    http://thecablegame.blogspot.com/2007/12/fox-news-channels-evening-news-show.html

    12:05

    Would you prefer a robotic presentation? I think it is okay to have a personality.

    Hey Dingbat can you read simple declarative sentences in English? I said it was a good, solid show. I just said it wasn't news. Take an ESL class in night school.

    Hey Johnny get over yourself. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I don't like you better than a new roll of waxpaper. Hume and FOX are not some paragons of journalistic integrity and objectivity. They're OK, but they're not Moses coming down the mountain with the tablets. Geez, lighten up!

    "Johnny, are you blind or are you lying to yourself? Hume is pure opinion in a thinly guised news setting. He editorializes throughout his entire show, by what is being covered, and by what is not being covered; by placement; by time allotted; by inflection; by facial expression; by body language. I don't have any problem with that, and with so discernible a set of biases, I can 'translate'. I find it a good, solid show, but news, in any objective sense, it clearly is not.

    I do agree with you that, historically, he was a good, solid newsman, despite his smug demeanor.
    Posted by: at January 29, 2008 12:05 PM "

    To a fairly large degree I agree with the above.

    Every point you made applies to KO and in spades doubled [No story favorable to Repubs, no guests or conservatives interviewed, no repubs or conservatives shown offering a rebuttal etc].

    To that we have to add his non use of connotation, which most everyone ELSE uses to shade their work beyond black an white. Nope, KO continually uses denotative words such as Fixed or Faux News, crap head, slut, war monger and on and on and on.

    Grammie

    PS I consider Brit Hume demeanor to be quiet, calm and and to a degree a lack of affect. Surprise, surprise I think KO is the King of Smug.

    I think Hume is one of the best journalists on television and that he has that reputation of among his peers too.

    However, putting aside that opinion and entertaining the notion that Hume has a million tics and tells that reveal him to be a conservative, still makes no difference in the case against Olbermann.

    Hume airs both sides of an issue. His guests reflect both sides of an issue and his questions to them reflect his understanding of both sides of an issue. During the news analysis part of the show, Hume's panel reflects both sides of an issue and he is playing devil's advocate towards either side of the panel.

    Not that any of that should be expected of Olbermann. He could appear on tv with the word "Democrat" stamped on his forehead and give his demagogic Special Comments till his shriveled pea brain rolled out of his brain and under his desk, and as long as his show acknowledged that his is not the SOLE position on the matter, there should be no issue.

    He doesn't acknowledge that though. I'd call him an "ideologue" but that denotes a fondess for ideas. Rather he's a partisan liberal elitist, who became a zealot in the last ten or so years, as technology made it possible for conservatives to get their ideas around the more liberal filter of the MSM.

    To Olbermann's thinking this scenario has been detrimental to the culture, because whether it's about taxes or gun control, an unfettered airing of non-liberal opinion is tantamount to suggesting that KKK dogma is just another point of view.

    That's why Rupert Murdoch is more dangerous than Osama bin Laden in Keith Olbermann's mind. Murdoch has facilitated the blasphemy of putting Ann Coulter's opinion right out there in same air as Frank Rich's.

    The man is working in the news broadcasting/news analysis field and he has a horror of opposition opinion and no appreciation or respect for the tenets of journalism.

    What's more Taliban-like than that?

    "He editorializes throughout his entire show, by what is being covered, and by what is not being covered; by placement; by time allotted; by inflection; by facial expression; by body language."

    Good God... you've just described Keith Olbermahn

    Federal Law - The Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.


    The FBI has initiated a federal investigation into the recent DDOS attacks. In the event of indictments, the hackers will be prosecuted under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, Title 18, United States Code Section 1030 (the “CFAA”). Subsection (5)(A) of the CFAA makes it a crime to,

    a. knowingly causes the transmission of a program, information, code, or command, and as a result of such conduct, intentionally causes damage without authorization, to a protected computer.

    This definition would seem to apply to both IP and e-mail spoofing. A protected computer is very broadly defined as a computer,

    b. exclusively for the use of a financial institution or the United States Government, or, in the case of a computer not exclusively for such use, used by or for a financial institution or the United States Government and the conduct constituting the offense affects that use by or for the financial institution or the Government; or
    which is used in interstate or foreign commerce or communication.

    The penalty for violating the CFAA is a maximum five years in prison and a minimum six-month incarceration for each offense. Repeat offenders can face a maximum 10-year prison term and fines ranging from $250,000 to twice the gross losses incurred by the victims. Significantly, the law also allows those affected to file civil suits against their attackers.

    The photo-op of Hillary and Obama whispering together last night has got to be the biggest cringe producing moment since Al and Tipper's PDA lip-lock.

    Yea, a man who loves his wife and is confident enough in his masculinity to show it is pretty disgusting.

    And, the notion of a Clinton-Obama reconciliation, a female/African-American ticket probably does throw you enlightened Right Wingers into convulsions.

    Yea, a man who loves his wife and is confident enough in his masculinity to show it is pretty disgusting.

    posted by hack

    Yea, along with the dough girl and all of the women that sued him for sexual harassment.......

    Who has ever sued Al Gore for sexual harassment? Yet another slander from Royal King, and no retraction forthcoming. Shocked!

    No retraction. Shocked!

    I was talking about billy boy not alGore. Happy?

    OK, but why? No one else was. And, this is Olbermann Watch, not Clinton Watch.

    Apology accepted nonetheless, with appreciation.

    Yea, a man who loves his wife and is confident enough in his masculinity to show it is pretty disgusting.

    And, the notion of a Clinton-Obama reconciliation, a female/African-American ticket probably does throw you enlightened Right Wingers into convulsions.

    Posted by: at February 1, 2008 7:31 PM


    You don't know the difference between a prolonged public french kiss at a campaign event, in front of an audience and tv cameras, and an intimate kiss a man gives his wife in private?

    You are a silly sap suitable for a politician's plucking.

    The poltical theater, IN HOLLYWOOD no less, seems to be enough for some on the left.....Listen to what the candidates are actually saying about eachother, especially on the war, to get the true sense of "unity."

    I would not be upset if it was an Obama/Clinton ticket (unlikely).....at least the sliminess would potentially be only a heart beat away from real power and Obama seems pretty healthy.

    Also, Clinton's negatives would probably be enough to lose the election for Obama. Why would he chance it with so many better choices out there?

    Clinton/Obama would be amusing especially after all has occurred this past month. The race baiting, the counter charges against the Clintons for being passe and relics.....

    The Clinton top of the ticket would still be a drag enough to make McCain competitive.

    Clinton/Obama would be amusing especially after all has occurred this past month. The race baiting, the counter charges against the Clintons for being passe and relics.....

    The Clinton top of the ticket would still be a drag enough to make McCain competitive.

    Posted by: cee at February 2, 2008 10:52 AM


    What do you want to bet that all the ugliness coming out of this campaign between both Clintons and Obama will not have .00001% chance of having the meme shelf-life of one Willie Horton ad and one mass calling from some unknown source against John McCain in the 2000 primary?

    The ugly Dem primary campaign in '08 meme will be about as prevalent as movies revealing the horrors of communism have been...

    You are right, Cecelia....I do wish the press did handle the left's political hardball as urgently as the right's. That is why I use the word, "amusing."

    Just look at our typical democrat here at OW....Bobo...Professor Honeydew....he is incapable of even facing the events of the last 3-4 weeks with regards to the harsh campaign tactics.

    I think more than a majority of the country is tired of The Clintons and if a viable alternative is presented to counter HRC on the top of the ticket, most reasonable people will vote against her......Obama at the top is another story and I really do think he will come to the conclusion that he really does not need her if he is able to pull off a win and go against the establishment democrats.