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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    January 24, 2008
    Olbermann Blames Olbermannwatch!

    After Olbermannwatch exclusively revealed that Playboy magazine had solicited a favorable fan letter when deluged with anti-Olbermann letters, the story drew big attention from a number of media sites. A flood of websites TVNewser, MediaBistroFishbowl NYC, Inside Cable News, Gawker, Jossip, Huffington Post, Newsbusters, and finally, the NY Daily News (Page Six). picked up on the story-they too were shocked that a major magazine would attempt to prop up the decidely unpopular opinionator who disguses himself as a journalist and his biased tv program as a "news show". While ">Playboy and the post">fanatical fan tried to justify their actions, they were chided by Inside Cable News which had this to say about the whole debacle:

    Playboy solicits opposing feedback to balance negative reaction to Olbermann interview - Eyebrows were raised this week by the news Playboy openly solicited feedback in opposition to the negative feedback that came in to its Keith Olbermann interview. The feedback you get is the feedback you get. To then look for different feedback because the feedback you got isn't what you expected or wanted smacks of activism to me.

    Smackdown!

    But who else responded to the whole Playboy debacle? Why none other than the infamous, deplorable, clearly biased, Democratic waterboy, Keith Olbermann. Using his new mouthpiece, as a Daily Kos Blogger, Olbermann decided the entire thing was the fault of Olbermannwatch!

    Normally I let this stuff go, but if you read said letters, you'll note they each hit one of the five or six talking points of an obscure website devoted to trying to annoy me it's actually so bad it's good).Playboy got played.

    Many thanks Keith! But since it is Olbermannwatch's mission to shed light on the deplorable biases and lies of Keith Olbermann, we have to correct a few things he said in his statement. First off, Olbermannwatch gets far more daily hits (traffic) than ANY of Olbermann's fan sites. Secondly, we have more posters than ANY of Olbermann's pathetic fan sites. And thirdly, I defy you to find a single "campaign" that encouraged anyone to send letters into Playboy to protest the interview he gave with the magazine. It doesn't exist. The points raised in the letters to the editor were all true. Note that Olbermann doesn't argue with the veracity of anything that was said about him in those letters to the editor. He can't. They were all true. People raise those "talking points" about you Keith because you keep making the same stupid mistakes over and over. But leave it to Olbermann to explain all of that awa by falling back on that old, all-purpose liberal excuse, "It's a conspiracy against me". On the contrary Keith, no one solicited anyone to write anything. Except of course, Playboy soliciting your little fan to write a suitably fawning letter propping you up. A question still remains however. How in the world did Playboy find that particular, truly obscure fansite to solicit a letter from? Hmmm. Could they have received a tip say from. . . Keith Olbermann? Oh Playboy got played alright, but it wasn't by this website or any of Keith's "enemies". And enemies to Mr. Olbermann of course means anyone who doesn't fall down at his feet and worship him as a God like the Kos Kids do.

    But when it comes to playing someone, the Olbermannwatch readers know all about Olbermann's history when it comes to tipping off writers and bloggers when he wants to spin a story his way. Why take his latest interview with Men's Journal. TVNewser, a longtime Olbermann mouthpiece, carried this snipped of the Olbermann interview:

    (Men's Journal) cites a senior executive at MSNBC, who says, "Keith runs MSNBC. It's been an amazing turnaround, because two years ago they were going to cancel him. Because of his success, he's in charge. Chris Matthews is infuriated by it."

    Well that didn't sit too well with Olby who fired back that night on Countdown with this remark, ". . based on an anonymous, inaccurate quote by somebody at MSNBC who claimed I run this network. A guy who was fired not long after he said that. Coincidence! Coincidence!"

    Or was it?

    To its credit, TVNewser did try to figure out who the anonymous executive was who gave that particular quote to Men's Journal. And curiously, TVN got a tip that said this about the identity of the person that gave the quote to Men's Journal:

    An anonymous emailer wrote: "The anon source in Men's Journal was Davidson Goldin."

    Hmmm. An Anonymous tipster huh? Well, that "anonymous" tip resulted in this response from Goldin himself who told TVN,

    I've heard Men's Journal is a great magazine, but I've never read the magazine, nor have I spoken to a reporter from Men's Journal. Nor have I ever spoken to any reporter about Keith Olbermann. The item you posted is completely false, and it was irresponsible to post that item without contacting me first.

    Now that's a denial! But that denial resulted in yet another tip from a network "insider".

    It's clear that somebody currently working at MSNBC talked out of school to Men's Journal and is now trying to pin this on people who aren't there anymore

    Somebody working at MSNBC trying to set the record straight? How unlike them! But Spud at Inside Cable News noticed something odd with all of these quotes and "anonymous sources".

    I don't think many people picked up on this from reading TVNewser's entry, what may have gotten lost in all this is, according to the TVN timeline as it's written, that anonymous tip came before Olbermann's on the air swipe (at Fox News for reporting the bit about Olbermann's running the network). And that detail is one that suggests an interesting pattern. A very interesting pattern

    Well that resulted in a few posts on ICN asking Spud what exactly was he talking about. And this is what he posted as further clarification.

    I've gotten a few emails on this asking me what exactly I'm refering to. I thought it was rather evident but apparently it wasn't.I was referring to the timing (anonymous quote first going to TVN and then later on Olbermann's on-air spiel). Nothing definitive can be concluded from this but it's coincidental enough to raise a flag for me.

    Olbermann giving an anonymous tip to TVN--why who would have thunk? Well Olbermannwatch readers now the score on Olbermann's tips to the likes of TVN and his constant attempts to cozy up to certain websites and media types to spin stories his way. After all, Olbermann IS his own best publicist and media tipster when it comes to trying to pin the blame on others and spin news HIS way! Yep, that's just how Edward R. Murrow did it, isn't it?


    Posted by Brandon | Permalink | Comments (180) | | View blog reactions

    180 Comments

    "Secondly, we have more posters than ANY of Olbermann's pathetic fan sites."

    This one may be a little harder to prove. OW may have more comments allowed than the pathetic fan sites because opposing viewpoints are allowed. If those pathetic fan sites allowed anit-Olby comments, there would be many more posters. It appears the fan sites follow Olbermoronn's lead in not allowing opinions that differ. That is all.

    "...it's actually so bad it's good..."

    kinda like the '86 Mets...

    Excellent post Brandon, great thanks.

    They Shoot Horses
    The national press wants a (dead) horse race
    by Frank Cagle

    "...Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann can be seen on YouTube laughing at Republican speeches. They dissed McCain’s victory speech in New Hampshire. They seemed personally offended that Thompson didn’t announce his withdrawal from the race the night of the South Carolina primary..."

    http://www.metropulse.com/articles/2008/18_04/franktalk.html

    Good blog.

    Spud has been fairly even-handed when it comes to Olbermann and not one to make assumptions.

    His theory is interesting and certainly not far-fetched.

    Thank you Cecelia.

    I'm actually wondering if Spud hasn't been the recipient of some "anonymous" tips from Olbermann in the past which might have really jump-started his theories about the TVN tip-business.

    And while I may not always agree with Spud at ICN I think he's a fair . . . and yes, balanced kinda guy. In my opinion, for what it's worth, I think his is the best all-around tv blog out there and kudos to him for this bit of open pondering on his website.

    "...obscure website devoted to trying to annoy me..." - I love that- "obscure website"- because you just KNOW he checks in with OW every day of his life!

    "...obscure website devoted to trying to annoy me..." - I love that- "obscure website"- because you just KNOW he checks in with OW every day of his life!

    Posted by: John-O at January 24, 2008 12:59 PM


    Are you kidding.... The guy has bookmarked a google search of his name....

    Brandon, a very good blog.

    I think you may have hit the nail on the head with observation: "I'm actually wondering if Spud hasn't been the recipient of some "anonymous" tips from Olbermann in the past which might have really jump-started his theories about the TVN tip-business."

    Grammie

    Thanks Grammie.

    And yes, Cecelia, I think you are 100% right about Olbermann doing a google search on his own name on a daily basis, probably several times a day. I heard Dan Patrick say once that Olbermann read every single thing about himself, good or bad, and committed it to memory. I love how he claims to the Kos Kids that he usually lets things go. Since when???? Another Olby lie!

    And yes John-O, he has visited this website as indeed has quoted from it, verbatim on more than one occasion.

    It will be interesting to see Olbermann dance around this:

    Kathryn Rogers, 31, Is Rush Limbaugh's New Girlfriend (Rush is 57)

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/24/kathryn-rogers-31-is-ru_n_83046.html

    ----funny, Rush & Keify's gal pal age differences are the same, 26...(the only thing different is Katy Tur is younger than her & Keify's age difference)

    What's funny, did Huffington Post make a big deal about Olbermann's significantly younger girlfriend? NO....enough said.

    "...Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann can be seen on YouTube laughing at Republican speeches. They dissed McCain’s victory speech in New Hampshire. They seemed personally offended that Thompson didn’t announce his withdrawal from the race the night of the South Carolina primary..."

    http://www.metropulse.com/articles/2008/18_04/franktalk.html

    Posted by: news you can use at January 24, 2008 12:19 PM

    Holy crap, what do you expect? Did YOU watch McCain's robotic somnambulation? It was so fucking creepy you had to laugh.

    Hey Beef, I agree. Sadly if he and Hillary are the nominees, McCain will win. I'm just providing links to what other's are pissed off about. Lots of independents & conservative dems like McCain. Don't think that this little mocking of war hero McCain won't be used in a campaign ads. (And with Bill pissing off the Black vote, it's looking bad for Hillary). And how any progressive can vote for Hillary is beyond logic. Do the Dems really hate winning?

    Do the Dems really hate winning?

    Posted by: news at January 24, 2008 3:07 PM


    I don;t know what their problem is - except that they are in general "liberal" without being "progressive", which basically makes you a lazy, disorganized conservative. As such they are easy prey to wolves in sheep's clothing; candidates and consultants who make lefty sounds, but play the same mercenary game as the GOP.

    And who picked the Dem front runners? Now I have nothing strongly against Obama; but here we have a black man who openly discusses his youthful drug-use; who's 1st name is weird; who's second name is eponymous with the late dictator of Iraq; and who's last name rhymes' with "Osama", our retarded country's current version of Emmanuel Goldstein.

    Now these would be vacuous charges whith which to publically challenge anyone, but we have seen what the GOP's slander machine can do with such fodder, and how Republican hoi poloi just eats it up.

    The other Pick is Hillary, a person for whom at least 30% of our populace has been born and bred to harbor a viceral hatred, and for whom a similar proportion of her own party has developed a similar disposition.

    I'll tell you who picks the dem's candidates: the corporation who own the media, and who want Big Business lap dogs in office! Its benn "Hillary Hillary Hillary" in the media since John Kerry packed it in, and I don;t know a soul out in real America who would have stated such a choice, until she is presented as an inevitability.

    They must, they keep nominating losers. If they nominate HRC, she will lose to ANY GOP candidate, handily.

    ...candidates and consultants who make lefty sounds, but play the same mercenary game as the GOP.

    Posted by: Sir Loin of Beef at January 24, 2008 3:38 PM

    man, you just described the Clintons perfectly.

    Dennis Kucinich just announced he is ending his campaign for president.

    My condolences, Sir Loin of Beef.

    He's too busy protecting our democracy counting votes in NH:

    http://www.bradblog.com/

    He's called "Bear" but he's really a pup
    He talks big, but can't back it up
    Huge ego unfounded
    His ratings? Gets pounded
    With no balls he won't need a cup

    Olbermann is a terrirble spkesman for the left. He's an intellectual coward who's afraid to debate and a liar. He's not a journalist, he's a washed up sportscenter.

    Dennis Kucinich just announced he is ending his campaign for president.

    My condolences, Sir Loin of Beef.

    Posted by: cee at January 24, 2008 5:09 PM

    What are you gonna do? He's still going to introduce articles of impeachment against Bush next week...Thursday, I think. Perhaps I'll write him in.

    I'm sure Nancy Pelosi will put a choke-hold on Kucinich before he gets very far...the f*cking Dems can't seem to get out of their own way. After two terms of the WORST president EVER, we will have another Repub again.

    "Olbermann is a terrible spokesman for the left. He' an intellectual coward who's afraid to debate nd a liar. He's not a journalist, he's a washed up sportscenter."

    Yeah, and he's also got a fat ass and his mother wears Army boots too, and his skin is SO orange and get a load of those silly glasses.

    What are you gonna do? He's still going to introduce articles of impeachment against Bush next week...Thursday, I think. Perhaps I'll write him in.

    Posted by: Sir Loin of Beef at January 24, 2008 6:49 PM

    Sir Loin,

    Bill Richardson. Former Ambassador to the U.N., governor... beaucoup experience....would bring the troops home from Iraq YESTERDAY.

    Dropped out too.

    I don't get it?

    Ah, the Clintons finally crack under pressure, but they will spin away to become the victims, again. Maybe Bill will cry this time:

    Clinton Pulls Negative S.C. Ad
    By Anne E. Kornblut

    GREENVILLE, S.C. -- Under fire for airing misleading attacks on Sen. Barack Obama, the Clinton campaign has pulled a radio ad that quoted the Illinois senator calling Republicans "the party of ideas" and suggesting he thought those ideas superior to Democratic ones. But the Obama campaign has already counter-punched, launching a new radio spot saying Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton will "say anything" to get elected

    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/01/24/clinton_pulls_negative_sc_ad.html

    "......would bring home troops yeterday."

    I guess that's one campaign promise he obviously couldn't keep.

    ANYONE but Billary, the entire quote says volumes more.

    "Hillary Clinton: She'll say anything and change nothing," the ad says.

    Grammie

    Yeah, and he's also got a fat ass and his mother wears Army boots too, and his skin is SO orange and get a load of those silly glasses.

    Posted by: Mike at January 24, 2008 7:15 PM


    Yep, there's no defending the indefensible.

    Yep, there's no defending the indefensible.

    Posted by: The real royal king at January 24, 2008 7:34 PM


    Don't forget he's the "Great Orange Hope"....

    What are you gonna do? He's still going to introduce articles of impeachment against Bush next week...Thursday, I think. Perhaps I'll write him in.

    Posted by: Sir Loin of Beef at January 24, 2008 6:49 PM


    Too bad you can't get your money back, eh slob? Impeachment, tax dollars hard at work. Speaking of which. Pelosi must be done revamping the lunch menu. I wonder how many millions that costed tax payers? I saw her on tv today blinking uncontrolably and blathering on. Same ol same ol.

    ESPN recently suspended Jacobson for one week in light of unscripted comments she made about Notre Dame at the roast of Mike Greenberg and Mike Golic in Atlantic City.

    Jacobson was criticized by several Catholic advocacy groups including the Catholic League for her characterizations of Jesus and the University of Notre Dame football program. An intoxicated Jacobson reportedly appeared on stage drinking a bottle of vodka and said, "F*** Notre Dame," "F*** Touchdown Jesus," and "F*** Jesus."

    An intoxicated Jacobson reportedly appeared on stage drinking a bottle of vodka and said, "F*** Notre Dame," "F*** Touchdown Jesus," and "F*** Jesus.
    Posted by: classy at January 24, 2008 7:46 PM

    I wonder if Olbermann ever nailed her......nah, probably just stalked her.

    John Gibson apologized for his comments about Heath Ledger. Will that stop Keith and his Storm Troopers? No, they could give two shits about Heath Ledger. They just wanted to use the issue to beat Gibson over the head with. Olbermann cares only about himself and an opportunity to attack someone he does not like. Pathetic.

    More troop supporting lefties!!!

    http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/24/left-wonders-what-should-we-do-with-petraeus-to-make-sure-he-doesnt-run-against-us-in-2012/

    Putting Petraeus at Central Command would have an added benefit for a Democratic president: he would be tasked with overseeing a plan to draw troops down from Iraq, thereby making him complicit in the undoing of his chief political advantage. And there’s another advantage to making Petraeus a regional commander: those jobs are five-year assignments. Should he prematurely resign his command to plan a presidential run, he’ll both appear craven and be open to the charge of deserting his post in wartime. (As he would if he turned down any of the three assignments offered him.) http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=petraeus_12

    How about they just have the Daily Kos poison Gen. Petraeus? Then he can't run for president and screw up their little socialist utopia.

    you sick shits need help.

    Posted by: WOW! Here I was, thinking the only demented paranoid moron was Bovine at January 24, 2008 1:42 PM

    Yyou needed help when trying to suck Dilbert's small dick last night eating your Rosco's chicken and waffles.

    What are you gonna do? He's still going to introduce articles of impeachment against Bush next week...Thursday, I think. Perhaps I'll write him in.

    Posted by: Sir Loin of Beef at January 24, 2008 6:49 PM

    Kuncinich is basically the ignored child of the congress - if he were to die tomorrow, would anyone notice? NO.

    Would anyone care? NO.

    SLOB just go back to the mansion and suck Kuncinich's cock dry and moan screaming that Olbermoron is your hero and pine to suck him dry.

    No one even noticed when he dropped out of the presidential race today. Kucinich is a joke within his own party. So what am I going to do? Laugh. That's what his colleagues will be doing.

    The New York Times has endorsed John McCain and Hillary Clinton for the GOP and Democratic presidential nominations, respectively.

    Gee, Sen. McCain.

    Tough Break.

    "To then look for different feedback because the feedback you got isn't what you expected or wanted smacks of activism to me"

    Activism at Playboy? Hasn't any of these guys actually "read" Playboy editorials in the last 10 years. They are further to the left then Bathtub Boy.

    I was serious about feeling bad about Kucinich's departure. I believe his point of view is frequently expressed here at OW by Loin and others. The problem is that the political power structure that the left has does not appreciate Representative Kucinich's positions in relation to their perceptions regarding keeping/increasing their power.

    I do not agree with Kucinich, and I would venture less than 15% of the country agrees with him, however, he has been true to the rhetoric the democrat party has put forth regarding law breaking allegations thrown towards the Bush Administration and then the next logical step towards impeachment. He has integrity, the democratic party leadership including Obama and Clinton do not.

    It seems the left's ruling elite, which Kucinich seems not to have much influence, wants the rhetoric but not the action....This is why I know the charges are not well supported and actionable, and have known this since 2002 when the radical left emerged from their 9/11 imposed hibernation.

    So, to the conventions.....HRC or Obama, leftists?.....Edwards seems to be dying a slow death....Are you going to be as true to your ideology as Rush and the far right seem to be threatening regarding not ultimately supporting someone who does not pull the line on their most cherished issues?......

    This will be a very interesting election year. Just like I could not vote for Huckabee and Paul with their record on Iraq and national security.....could some here who claim Bush has broken the law, lied and is responsible for millions of deaths and injuries (all for profit and personal power) vote for people not willing to remove him from office for such EVIL deeds?

    I suspect I know the answer for some.....(Mike, FLUCKER, WDYT, Killa, many anon posters)......

    Posted by: cee at January 25, 2008 8:47 AM


    Holy Crap!! I agree with almost everything Phari-cee has written! Except for the following provisos:

    - his perception of the "leftist elite" controlling Democratic initiatives. There is an "elite" that is responsible for forcing Hillary down our throats, and making Obama the initially attractive, but fundamentally flawed, alternative - and it is precisely the same elite that has greased the axles of the Bush cabal for so long: the corporate owners of our privatized institutions. They are an oligarchy; the terms "left" and "right" are irrelevant at this level, despite the tools they use at any given decade.


    - far more than 15% of Americans agree with Kucinich; candidate-blind policy surveys show majorities of Americans of both parties adhering to the economic platforms proposed by Kucinich and Edwards - but the corporate-owned media (see "elite" discussion above) have kept his messages in obscurity, while focusing on cartoonish personality attribution to make this entirely viable candidate entirely moot.

    I guess I'll continue to live in my corporation created dreamland and continue to believe that greater than 80% of average Americans want to shop and choose most everything as is realistically possible for themselves from the underware they wear, the electronics they fill their homes with, the vacations they take and the mayo they eat to the cars they drive, the light bulbs they use, the way they manage their finances and the various insurance protection they choose to use for unknown future challenges.

    I appreciate people like Loin ready to break the hum with their sledge hammers a la the 1984 Super Bowl Apple Computer Commercial.

    I like McCain because he is principled, regardless of his less than stellar conservative track record. (I heard today he votes pro on conservative issues 80% of the time which he feels is strong. Ridiculously poor considering he is a republican) But he has yet to back off his mishandled immigration stance which concerns me. He could lose the election on this issue alone.

    The problem is that the conservative are lining up against McCain. I have many friends that don't think they could vote for him if he gets the mandate.

    BUT- I don't if there is a republican in america that would vote for Hillary over any of our candidates. So McCain has to be pulling for Bill's wife. It might unify the conservatives behind him.

    McCain really pissed people off with the amnesty bill and campaign finance reform and it still may prevent him from getting the nomination.....The problem is, who else is viable that the Rush/Hannity conservatives can accept.....Giuliani?....he screwed up and will likely see little to no fund raising ability after he loses Florida.....

    Romney?....possible still, but he has to come in 1st or second in florida and do well on Super Tuesday to remain viable.

    Thompson is gone and Hucakabee is persona non grata.....

    The rank and file republicans want someone who can win in Novemeber and Giuliani has yet to prove he can garner large numbers of votes in a real election.....polls don't count....primaries do and he made a mistake for ignoring Iowa, NH and SC......these states have real republicans who want to have real choices and Giuliani not campaigning hard there has hurt his chances.

    Those conservatives who are ignoring the majority voice of the rank and file republicans who have put their votes behind McCain risk their own integrity and future relevance because, on the one hand, they are willing to vote for a liberal republican like Rudy yet demand conservative purity when it comes to war hero and consistant Iraq War supporter Senator McCain.

    So, the reality may be McCain with his 80% conservative voting rating vs. a McGovernesque HRC or Obama.....Why conservatives would risk four years or extreme liberal executive rule would be beyond my comprehension.

    Oh well....like I said....interesting.....

    "I guess I'll continue to live in my corporation created dreamland and continue to believe that greater than 80% of average Americans want to shop and choose most everything as is realistically possible for themselves from the underware they wear, the electronics they fill their homes with, the vacations they take and the mayo they eat to the cars they drive, the light bulbs they use, the way they manage their finances and the various insurance protection they choose to use for unknown future challenges."

    I agree with this as well (with an annotated exception to your referrence to insurance); but, once again, you construct a straw man to argue against me. Such choice would actually be far more robust and varied under the corporo-clastic system I ddream of - unless you are suggesting that people would "choose" the innaccessible zoning deals and tax-breaks that have placed the same "Chilis", "Best Buy" and a "Walmart" in similar spatial relationships in just about every moderately-sized town across America. "Choice" my ass.

    Come on Loin.....I have not eaten at a Chili's in 3 years....Where I live, there are wonderful, "non-Franchised" restaruants run by local residents of various ethnicities....Italian, Thai, Japanese, Greek....etc.....The open marketplace does just fine in this regard because of variety and service.

    Walmart is a red herring....Again, for disposable income in purchacing electronics, clothing, appliances, etc...the competition is there and sometimes it is better to go to the local consignment shop or thrist shop, especially if one likes things a little eclectic. The internet has also influenced this are and although there has been a lot of merging among some retailers, there still are many options to choose from evaluating service, price and selection....

    One more point on McCain.....

    His mother has a great point......

    "Well, everything they’ve done and said. … Now I’m really popping off, but [John McCain] worked like a dog to get Bush re-elected. …He’s backed Bush in everything except Rumsfeld. Have you heard other senators and congressmen backing Bush over eight years? Find me it–give me a name. I’ve not seen any public recognition of the work that he’s done for the Republican party."

    http://thepage.time.com/transcript-of-roberta-mccain-on-c-span/


    ###
    Oh boy.....that's the rub for a lot of rank and file republicans....throwing McCain to the curb after he was with Bush consistently with the most important issue facing our nation....terrorism and the wars against radical islamofascism.....there is something many rabid anti-McCain conservatives have to answer to.....

    I also want to remind our conservative friends on another principled vote of Senator John McCain.......

    On the charges of perjury and obstruction, how do you find the adulterous sodomite, William Jefferson Clinton?........

    GUILTY!

    So, you don't trust John McCain, my fellow conservatives? After that one, I can give the man a break on a few votes on issues I don't agree with him on....But where it counted....

    Supporting Bush against Saddam, Al Queda and the insurgency.....

    AND keeping the law applying to the highest office holder in the land......

    YES on both important counts.

    Posted by: benson at January 25, 2008 9:50 AM

    This is the problem with John McCain.

    Dr. Juan Hernandez, McCain Hispanic outreach director: “We must not only have a free flow of goods and services, but also start working for a free flow of people.”

    The Factor....that position on immigration is one that there is PLENTY of negotiating play between a "President McCain" and a strong, healthy republican (read: conservative) minority he will need in the congress for many other reasons....the war on terror, and economic issues....just like President Bush did....

    To throw away executive power and oversight with a potential run away bureaucracy and government spending (which McCain is good by the way), over ideological purity seems senseless to me....Let's wait and see what Romney and Giuliani do in Florida....but if after Florida and then Super Tuesday, there seems to me a majority of the rank and file republicans behind McCain, conservatives should think twice about Republican unity versus giving away the keys to the McGovernites.

    Lets not have 1964 all over again and then face a horrible country like it was 1965 to 1980! Let's think of the good of the country for goodness sake!

    They took away this blog, then his email account but now Keith is blogging at Kos and (happily for OW) providing more fodder for this site. Exhibit A is our new tag line (see top of home page) courtesy of KO's recent comment at Kos on the Playboy Letter Writing "scandal".

    "So bad, it's good!"

    These crude and bizarre "Kip King" comments and other assorted comments all came from 67.79.199.246. That is also the IP address for "clucker". Will there be any tears shed now that I have banned comments from 67.79.199.246?

    These crude and bizarre "Kip King" comments and other assorted comments all came from 67.79.199.246. That is also the IP address for "clucker". Will there be any tears shed now that I have banned comments from 67.79.199.246?

    Posted by: Robert Cox at January 25, 2008 12:46 PM

    Oh, good lord, no...

    Thank any deity of your choice, folks...

    "Lets not have 1964 all over again and face a horrible country like it was from 1965 to 1980."

    Funny, I just don't remeber this so called "horrible country" you just described. I recall a very vibrant country that had it's own unique share of triumphs and failures, ...... just like today.

    It might have helped your obviously biased perspective if you could have lived this period, ..... rather than merely having read about it.

    Posted by:[Cecelia] at January 25, 2008 1:00 PM

    You mean the "clucker" that was traveling to the "mid east" and helping with her injured god son? Too bad I didn't catch the comments before they were deleted. Maybe not, just as well.

    These crude and bizarre "Kip King" comments and other assorted comments all came from 67.79.199.246. That is also the IP address for "clucker". Will there be any tears shed now that I have banned comments from 67.79.199.246?

    Posted by: Robert Cox at January 25, 2008 12:46 PM

    Oh my.....no tears from me....I was wondering where he went.

    And Mike....Please look at the period as a whole....Stagflation, New York City almost disintergrates along with most of Newark and North Jersey....high unemployment, declining respect for The United States internationally....our enemies on the move: into Afghanistan, Iran falls to radical islamists...hostages for MONTHS! Mortgage rates into the double digits!

    I was born in IRVINGTON NJ in 1969.....Please google Irvington NJ and inform yourself about what happened to this wonderful town after 1964......along with Newark......Needless to say my parents ran away from the place in 1970.......

    I drive through Irvington every now and then and KNOW it is the way it is BECAUSE of Johnson's "Great Society." Unfortunetely it, along with Newark, was not salvaged and saved by the feds like it's cousin, NYC, later in the late '70's......

    The democrats almost destroyed this nation until the place came to its senses in 1980.....The leftists in the congress need restraint and it seems to me that allowing McGovernesqe democrats power over the executive would be a huge mistake for our country, again.

    Bush on Mt. Rushmore!

    Similar comments from Deuce King at 4.231.53.171 have led me to ban that IP address as well. The person using that address also had put up one comment as Kip King which is the same name as the person at 67.79.199.246 so presumably that is the same person.

    Don't you see Daddy needs help?

    I drive through Irvington every now and then ....

    _______

    Let my people go.

    Thank you, Robert.

    Suck-up!

    Thank you, Robert.

    Posted by: Sharon at January 25, 2008 2:18 PM

    I second that sentiment.

    I don't know how successful you'll be in banning psychopaths.... even prisoners in maximum security can get drugs... but thanks for revealing just the sort of flimflam conman grifter sort we're seeing here.

    I wonder if Mr. blank-FLUCKER was lying about all the famous people he knew....

    Bill Moyers......

    Bill Clinton.....

    Hillary Clinton......

    Gene Simmons...........

    Also, was he lying about his resemblance to Curd Jurgens?

    He seemed to like Cecelia a lot......

    Oh well....I guess we'll never know.....

    Just like how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop.......

    I am willing to continue on not knowing.

    "He seemed to like Cecelia a lot......"

    Don't give her an eeeooo moment by reminding
    her :)

    There will be a reincarnation. The "innocent" one knows all about those IP's.

    Hey, I've got a big husband and a glock that I'd never hesitate to use... :D

    Hey, easy on the banning. I doubt the quality will go up, but the comments will definately go down.

    Peggy Noonan had some pretty on-traget comments today.....

    "But the Clintons are tearing the party apart. It will not be the same after this. It will not be the same after its most famous leader, and probable ultimate victor, treated a proud and accomplished black man who is a U.S. senator as if he were nothing, a mere impediment to their plans. And to do it in a way that signals, to his supporters, How dare you have the temerity, the ingratitude, after all we've done for you?"

    http://online.wsj.com/article/declarations.html


    ###
    This is the huge story people like Olbermann choose to ignore. The use of race, especially in the south, to scare voters is something that we are always hearing scathing cries about when it is reportedly done by conservatives......But for leftists, no condemnation from the elite class and no commentary by the usual suspects.....like the shill Olbermann.

    I am amazed that any "progressive" would still vote for Clinton in the primary.....She and her husband have shown no respect for the supposed sensitivites the compassionate "progressives" poroudly claim make them superior to all comers.....

    Oh well....power is at stake and I think there may be some who are afraid of the Clintons and allow them to do things others would never be allowed to get away with......

    A shame.....their dynasty could be ended 2/5 but it will not be....the establishment has made their demands known and to hell with principle.

    Also nevermind that the adulterous sodomite Bill Clinton is undermining any vestige of an elder statesman; being better than the petty political attacks he seems to enjoy inflicting on people.

    Mr Cox, thank you for banning that psychopathic pervert.

    He and his followers, and he does bring out the worst behavior in others, have made OW an unpleasant place to be too often and I have stayed away a great deal because of it.

    Thank you again.

    If you decide to run for President you will have my support! :)

    Grammie

    Some sorry ass debate last night. What the hell's happened to the GOP?

    Guiliani just looked scared and stupid. He's a loser anyway. Plus he's a crook.

    Romney is just a pretty boy who gets his feelings hurt too easy and besides that what real Christian is going to vote for him? Not me. Real Christian or no one!!! The Unuted States is not Utah and Utahs not a big part of the United States.

    That leaves Paul for me because there is noooooo waaaaay I vote for that traitor liberal McCain and his happy acres mother. Bridge to Nowhere. Bridge to Nowehere. I climbed up Ragan's butt further than you did. Bridge to Nowhere.

    If the GOP can't do better than this it needs to go out of business. What happened to real GOPers like Goldwater and diMato?

    If it's McCain, I'm gonna vote for Hillary and I hope she wipes up the floor. Maybe the GOP needs to hit the bottom before it improves.

    Faker alert at 5:32.....No real republican who would say "What happened to real GOPers like Goldwater and diMato?" would even think about voting for Paul (let alone mess up Ronald Reagan's last name).....

    Please take the trolling somewhere else.....and enjoy voting in the democratic primary....I am sure that is where you are registered.

    Youre right pansy-ass. Im not a republican, Im a conservative and theres a lot of difference between the two these days. Yea, I did forget the e in Reagan. I never took typing in secretary's school and I use 1 finger on both hands. When I see you Ill use a different finger. Go use some Summers Eve. Your starting to stink.

    Thank$ Pat$y.

    Grammie

    Anytime, Moonbeam Zappa.

    Typical OlbyLoon, rushing to cry "censorship" because another OlbyLoon can't post comments to a blog. Try to pretend you have more than a 3rd grade education and that you understand that GOVERNMENTS "censor" not blogs.

    Oh, and one more thing. I did not "banish an opposing viewpoint". The person posting from the IP addresses that I blocked violated our clearly stated policies. I rarely ban anyone and when I do it is because of repeated, flagrant violations such as was the case here.

    But, since you are since a big fan of Keith Olbermann I am sure you would feel right at home if I only allowed points of view that conformed to my opinion alone.

    10:28 is just whining, Robert. Everyone wants Phony Solider banned. I would be curious to see that IP.

    Very, very, very few of the Democratic/Liberal websites allow opposing opinions, not Democratic Underground and not Daily Kos. They are afraid to hear any opinion contrary to their own little belief system-they confuse easily.

    Very, very, very few of the Democratic/Liberal websites allow opposing opinions, not Democratic Underground and not Daily Kos. They are afraid to hear any opinion contrary to their own little belief system-they confuse easily.

    Posted by: Brandon at January 26, 2008 9:17 AM


    That's true, Brandon, but I think we should keep in mind what really happened in this instance here.

    Dissenting "opinion" wasn't banned. Harassing behavior was thankfully curtailed for a moment or two and acknowledged as being just that.

    I have now banned 24.147.202.165. This IP address has been the source of comments from someone who also uses "Kip" and is posting similar comments to those that led me to ban the other two IP addresses. The person coming from that address also used the following pseudonyms to post:

    Wasted Keystrokes
    royal king, jr.
    Karl Rove
    [Anonymous]
    The real royal king
    Random O'Reilly quote
    Why don't you just beg to J$ again, crybaby
    Robert Cox, you are a great man
    A real righty
    Don't underestimate OW
    Phony Soldier
    Trojan
    Taty Kuric
    Republican Warrior
    Look!! An IRANIAN!! OVER THERE!!!
    Southern Male
    me
    John
    Whoa! Is this guy queer or what?
    The Truth
    Thurston Howell III
    Bush #1


    When I ban these IP addresses I am also deleting EVERY comment ever made from that address. As a result, readers may notice a lack of continuity in certain threads. Some readers may be interested to know that this person who has been posting these comments has posted 640 comments over the past year under 23 names. For those who have complained about "trolls", you have only yourself to blame if you are "feeding" them. Google around if you care to learn more about the psychology behind what drives people to engage in troll behavior (basically these type of people are psychotic misanthropes who seek pleasure by attempting to make people as unhappy about their lives as they are about theirs). Trolls seek validation that they are succeeding in getting the sought after reaction so responding to them in any way but especially with insults, anger, hostility, etc. actually ENCOURAGES more troll-ish behavior. The more you complain - or argue with them - the more comments they post. This is, for example, why this person kept namejacking. Some of you expressed anger that someone who namejack and so they did it more. Some of you expressed anger about the use of vulgar language and so they did it more. This is how these type of people operate.

    That said, at some point, the behavior goes on long enough and becomes egregious enough that more drastic measures become necessary. In some cases that is reporting the person to their ISP, in other cases banning IP addresses. There is no perfect solution because a motivated troll can take plenty of steps to circumvent any measures that might be taken on an "open" board like OW. So, it will hardly surprise me if this person keeps popping up. All I can do is do what I've done over the past 24 hours - look up their IP address, ban that address and delete every comment ever posted from that address.

    So, we'll see if this particular troll returns. If they do some of you will, I am sure, let me know, and I will repeat this process as needed.

    I've also now banned 67.159.45.53, primarily for language issues. I believe this is a different person, most likely a Kossack given the way they sign their comments.

    They were posting under the following names:

    I heard you missed me, Pa...
    LOL!
    Point is
    This coming from the dumb...
    LOL! Laura Phony Bu$hwipe
    From the moron that went ...
    Finally you found the Atl...
    Eveeel Mr. Merriam-Webste...
    Making up bullshit as you...
    I asked YOU, Pastor DUMBF...
    Here ya go Bovine! contin...
    Pastor DUMBFUCK! I mean P...
    OK, Bovine. Here's anothe...
    Trent, meet Pastor DUMBFU...
    Rico
    Mike, what did you do to ...
    OK Fuctoid. I believe you...
    FREE AND OPEN ELECTIONS!
    Pastor DUMFUCK! I mean Ph...
    I tell you Pastor DUMBFUC...
    LOL! Now The Fuctoid is r...
    Anyone knows Sean "Gokkun...
    royal king
    You are welcome
    cee
    The real royal king

    Cecelia said, "Dissenting "opinion" wasn't banned. Harassing behavior was thankfully curtailed for a moment or two and acknowledged as being just that."

    Excellent point. Thanks, Bob, for trying to deal with the troll isssue. I try to ignore them. My crime is I forget to add my user name but I always try to be civil and post something worthwhile. Because I share my computer with others I don't want to click on "Remember me." Sorry if that's a problem with my coming up as anon.

    Robert,

    I again thank you. Anyone can see that you allow dissenting opinions, even welcome them.

    I also banned 67.159.50.91 which was a person using the following names:

    Imagine that, someone men...
    Just say moo!
    FORNICATOR!
    Obviously, you are not fa...
    YOU ARE BETTER OFF RUNNIN...
    Oooooops, Pastor DUMBFUCK...
    Sorry for the bad news, P...
    OK, moron paranoid Bovine...
    Oh NO! Eveeeel secularist...
    Nope.
    DUMBSHIT! I mean Bovine!
    Thanks, but no thanks, Pa...
    Are you hearing voices ag...
    Pastor DUMBFUCK! You have...
    LOL! Classical moron para...
    When Laura Phony Bu$hwipe...
    Ronco, you beardless puss...
    How about YOU, Johnny BU$...
    Did I say you "DO OWN THI...
    DUMBSHIT! I mean Bovine!
    Ever been to the Freepers...
    Johnny BU$HWIPE, are you ...
    Fuctoid! Obviously you ca...
    Pastor DUMBFUCK! I mean P...
    So you two BUSHWIPES want...
    Johnny BU$HWIPE! I just p...
    OK, Fuctoid! You are maki...
    LOL! Now Johnny BU$HWIPE ...
    DUMBSHIT! I mean Bovine!
    Later! BU$HWIPES!
    This blog IS supposed to ...
    Seriously, DUMBSHIT! I me...
    As I said, Bovine. You ar...
    HELP YOURSELF, DUMBSHIT!
    Ronco, How many muslims d...
    Almost forgot, Ronco!
    I'm trying to imagine you...
    Now I'm supposed to teach...
    Pastor DUMBFUCK! I mean P...
    Good morning to you, Past...
    Ronco, Beardless Pussy!
    If you call BovineQueen d...
    [Anonymous]
    This is what BovineQueen ...
    Those are indeed Wasted K...
    2 (two) more examples of ...
    Imagine that! Bovine actu...
    LOL! The very own W.H. Of...
    I doubt Pastor DUMBFUCK! ...
    DUMBSHIT! I mean Bovine!
    Thanks. I appreciate your...
    Once again I thank you.
    I see.
    Pearls Before Bovine
    Sorry, peeps
    Full posts, Hag-zilla. To...
    Bovine and Hag-zilla are ...
    That's why I enjoy this t...
    Twist your tits, Bovine?
    I expect no reward, Hag-z...
    ROFLMAO! DUMBSHIT! I mean...
    Dana Perino means nothing...
    So you are not going to r...
    It is standard moron para...
    LITTLE DIPSHIT! I mean Bo...
    DUMBSHIT! I mean Bovine!
    bump
    So Pastor DUMBFUCK! I mea...
    IT IS FREEDUMBS AND CHIMP...
    THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU SAID,...
    Hag-zilla, why don't you ...
    BOVINE SHIT BLOGGER
    You don't get the point, ...
    BTY, DUMBSHIT! I mean BOV...
    royal king at Dece...
    Don't ask me, You DUMBSHI...
    Not really. It is Phallu-...
    Excuse me DUMBSHIT! I mea...
    ROFLMAO! Never ask aquest...
    KEWL! Now we are making p...
    You are right again! Bovi...
    I've told these idiots ov...
    Check with NASA, You DUMB...
    DUMBSHIT! I mean Bovine!
    [Anonymous]
    Academy stresses evoluti...
    Uh... oh... let me guess
    I am beginning to like th...
    I prefer Johnny BU$HWIPE'...
    RUN! RUN! BOVINE! RUUUUUU...
    Once again, I agree with ...
    Anyone but Hillary in 200...
    Cops Accused of Sex With ...
    Bush predicts Mideast pe...
    no sermons planned for to...
    Once I let half the class...
    I tell you, Pastor DUMBFU...
    Later! Bob!
    For the 100th time, YOU D...
    DUMBSHIT! I mean Bovine! ...
    Once more I have to agree...
    Billdo O'rally would neve...
    Sure, DUMBSHIT! I mean Bo...
    royal king
    What did I tell you, Bovi...
    MOOOOOOOO... me a river.....
    Ronco, How many muslims d...
    I told you Ronco, do the ...
    From paranoid moron to ps...
    I know it is more difficu...
    Countdown with Keith Olbe...
    royal king
    Another RW talking head
    From Michelle Malkin to J...
    Dow Drops 465 Then Gains ...
    Asian markets rebound af...
    Study: False statements ...
    Do you have a registratio...
    An excellent analysis by ...
    Didn't you register at th...
    Another sermon with polit...
    HAG-ZILLA must be half aw...
    I was dead on every time
    The real, real, real roya...
    The real royal king
    No. DUMBSHIT! I mean Bovi...
    Robert Cox

    All comments from this IP Address have been deleted.

    I have now banned 67.159.44.59 and deleted all comments from that IP address. This person posted 255 comments under the following names:

    Average American Patriot
    DUMBFUCK IS FALWELL RE-IN...
    I TOLD YOU DUMBFUCK, YOU ...
    SANTA CLAUS IS REALLY OFF...
    ARE YOUR SERIOUS, YOU FUC...
    FOR A REVISIONIST HISTORI...
    DUMBFUCK IS BOVINEQUEEN'S...
    AND DUMBFUCK Cee FALLS FO...
    Laura's School of Success...
    Larry Craig IS NOT, read ...
    AP Poll: Most say Iraq wa...
    I know you will find this...
    Cee: chaos if U.S. pulls...
    Brandon sez Hi!
    Olby Hater dies after thr...
    George Bush has never sai...
    Saudi women lobby king f...
    There is a fine line betw...
    SATAN'S SCHOOL FOR LEFTIS...
    Countdown with Keith Olbe...
    {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}
    SATAN'S SCHOOL OF SURGERY...
    SATAN'S SCHOOL FOR SECULA...
    GET YOUR FANTASIES RIGHT!...
    READ THEM AND WEEP! PASTO...
    Christian Evangelicals, I...
    Pastor DUMBFUCK! I mean C...
    KEWL! Pastor DUMBFUCK WAN...
    Grummpies is delusional a...
    I have better things to d...
    Countdown with Keith Olbe...
    Pastor DUMBFUCK! I mean P...
    EVEEEEL GENIUS PASTOR DUM...
    OH, FUCTOID, NO! NO EVIDE...
    Walk TOWARD the light, Pa...
    ROFLMAO! DUMBFUCKS FELL F...
    BOVINE! You ARE a total D...
    OH NOOOOOOO! BIG BAD DUMB...
    WOW! PASTOR DUMBFUCK FINA...
    THIS IS A TEST
    Grummpies setting up Bovi...
    EXCUSE ME YOU TWO MYOPIC ...
    Number 666 for you DUMBSH...
    THERE GOES DUMBSHIT AGAIN...
    The proper way to order t...
    WHO TOOK THE DAMNED REMOT...
    LAURA! I know you can hea...
    AND THERE GOES MORON PARA...
    johnny dollar
    OH SHIT! ANOTHER BLIND BU...
    G'NITE MATE! DON'T LET TH...
    Billdo O'Racist is NOT RA...
    KEWL! Pastor DUMBFUCK IS ...
    Mike! Mike! Don't fall in...
    Brandon sez HELLO!
    Who posted at 6:22 PM? se...
    Grummpies is hallucinatin...
    Robin returns
    ARE YOU THE SAME PASTOR D...
    Countdown with Keith Olbe...
    To the other DUMBSHITS mo...
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    Could it be Richard?
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    I've banned 66.28.139.243, this person posted 259 comments, most as "Average American Patriot" but also under the following names:

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    All of the comments from this IP address have been deleted.

    Wow, it's a full time job banning patsy.

    "I again thank you. Anyone can see that you allow dissenting opinions, even welcome them."

    Well that's a great big crock of shit. he seems to be running around banning people who disagree with him right and left these days.

    Hey it's his board, if he is only offended by liberals that is his business. but get off the crack sharon he does not welcome dissenting opinions, occasionally he will tolerate them.

    I think OW should have a moment of silence for how often the misunderstood boy had to go up against pernicious accusations of multiple monikers...

    Okay, done now...

    You do not need to say "real" royal king. I know it is really you; you have posted over 6,000 comments on this site.

    I am creating a list of authenticated users and will add you to that list if you can send me an email and tell me the name you originally used on this site and the month you began using it.

    Hey it's his board, if he is only offended by liberals that is his business. but get off the crack sharon he does not welcome dissenting opinions, occasionally he will tolerate them.

    Posted by: at January 26, 2008 2:01 PM


    Do you always make comments you can't back? Can you not read? Pick any thread and you will find all the evidence you need to prove yourself wrong.

    Robert, it's no secret I originally posted as Jeff. I don't remember what month, but, I've been posting here at least 2 yrs.

    all right I pick this thread

    Robert Cox: "I've banned 66.28.139.243, this person posted 259 comments, most as "Average American Patriot" but also under the following names:"

    Rk you really are the least intelligent conservative on this site.

    Hey it's his board, if he is only offended by liberals that is his business. but get off the crack sharon he does not welcome dissenting opinions, occasionally he will tolerate them.

    Posted by:olbyloon at January 26, 2008 2:01 PM

    How about banning everybody?

    Cox is an idiot.

    Posted by: at January 26, 2008 2:07 PM

    How's this for 'dissenting?' Spin away.

    "Dissenting "opinion" wasn't banned. Harassing behavior was thankfully curtailed for a moment or two and acknowledged as being just that"

    This sentiment is also a crock. RK harassed mike for months, and if we see Mike again RK will harass him again. You can delude yourself if you want but the facts are to the contrary.

    Rk you really are the least intelligent conservative on this site.

    Posted by: at January 26, 2008 2:22 PM


    By the way, loon, I'll take this as a compliment. I've never claimed to be the smartest person posting here. I'll be the first to admit I'm not. Nor am I the most articulate and I don't claim to be. What's your claim to fame? Just curious.

    This sentiment is also a crock. RK harassed mike for months, and if we see Mike again RK will harass him again. You can delude yourself if you want but the facts are to the contrary.

    Posted by: at January 26, 2008 3:01 PM


    I pointed out his hypocritical opinionated posts as well as his lies. You can call it "harassing" all you want. mike is another example of 'dissenting' opinions. Thanks for proving yourself wrong, again. Keep posting, please.

    "I pointed out his hypocritical opinionated posts as well as his lies. You can call it "harassing" all you want."

    And I will. You harassed him.

    "mike is another example of 'dissenting' opinions. Thanks for proving yourself wrong, again. Keep posting, please."

    This is another example of you being the least intelligent conservative on this board(which is why I harass you.) Generally arguing with you is pointles but I never said Rober Cox banned everyone who disagagreed with him and if you took it that way then you have further provved my assertion regarding your IQ

    "By the way, loon, I'll take this as a compliment."

    It wasn't meant as one. the point I was making is that there are rightwing posters here whose intelligence I respect. I might dislike their worldview or even them as people on occasion, but I do have some respect for their intellects. johhny Dollar is a such a person and i've had many a nasty argument with him and probably will again until I am banned.

    You on the hand, offend me not just because you reason poorly (although you do) but because in addition to reasoning poorly your are supremely condescending and rude without ever participating in an argument, other than call someone names (in fact i could some up all of your arguments with the phrase "typical Olbyloon.") We all do this to a degree but it is ALL you do.

    In addition to having nasty arguments with most of the regulars on this board, I've also had polite exchanges of ideas. You should try it for once. You might learn something about how the other side thinks. of course i don't think you are interested in that. i think you just want to raise your own low self esteem by finding a group of people to belong with so that you can attack others and therefore win approval points from members of your group.


    'What is your claim to fame"

    I don't have one. I'm someone who gets pissed off at the state of the world and comes to this board looking for a fight, basically I 'm an asshole. My saving grace is that on occasion i realize it and try to improve. I am self-aware.

    "Huckabee said we owe Bush our gratitude for starting the war in Iraq.
    Huckabee's chances for becoming the next president: None !

    Huckabee, was Playing to the base with that comment. "he has criticized bush in the past on the war, this is his way of making up to conservative voters. all politicians do it.

    One of you Chicken Bloggers expressed the sentiment that Mr Cox was banning dissenters.

    If you want to embrace an amorous identity like Chicken Blogger for the cover it gives you then you should have the grace to accept the pitfalls that comes with the territory.

    Grammie

    "One of you Chicken Bloggers expressed the sentiment that Mr Cox was banning dissenters.

    If you want to embrace an amorous identity like Chicken Blogger for the cover it gives you then you should have the grace to accept the pitfalls that comes with the territory"

    Hey it is his board, he can can ban people on the criteria he hates misspelled words if he wants or the fact that people choose to post without a name or because he felt like banning every fourth post. I don't care. Just don't pretend like dissenting opinions are welcomed here they are not.they are somewhat tolerated.

    Also personally I think your habit of starting every post with an ad hominem attack is worse than posting anonymously. but that is just my opinion.

    I will repeat what I have said a few times in the past. Any poster whose name isn't one is really just saying "FUCK YOU!". And that includes NOBODYs, too.

    The central characteristic of the unhinged leftist is rage, as the PATSYs, etc. express each and every day on OW.

    So to all of you dingbats out there, I say you are your "FUCK YOU!"

    "I think OW should have a moment of silence for how often the misunderstood boy had to go up against pernicious accusations of multiple monikers...

    Okay, done now...
    Posted by: Cecelia at January 26, 2008 2:01 PM"

    Cecelia, you have put me in a terrible bind. I owe Pats$ an apology because I laughed and giggled through our remembrance of him.

    Do I have to apologize to all thousand or so identities separately or will just one apology be sufficient.

    I will be pondering this for a very long time. I have thousands of decisions to make and I might not be done till KO gets his comeuppance and starts doing sports in Podunk.

    Grammie

    "I will repeat what I have said a few times in the past. Any poster whose name isn't one is really just saying "FUCK YOU!". And that includes NOBODYs, too."

    I think if i want to say "fuck you" I can do it by saying Fuck you.

    "So to all of you dingbats out there, I say you are your 'FUCK YOU!'"

    Speaking of unhinged rage: name calling "dingbats" followed by a screaming "FUCK YOU" I'm sure the right will embrace you as their spokesperson.

    Grammie,

    T is for their TOXIC attitude....

    R is for their RAGE and RAVING too....

    O is that they're very... oh so ORDINARY...

    L is LIKE they're more of everything we so deplore....


    Get it... :D


    This is another example of you being the least intelligent conservative on this board(which is why I harass you.)

    posted by anonyloon

    Are you going to make hypocritical posts every day so I can point them out every time?

    "T is for their TOXIC attitude....

    R is for their RAGE and RAVING too....

    O is that they're very... oh so ORDINARY...

    L is LIKE they're more of everything we so deplore...."

    Well this proves Robert is not banning people for misspelling words.


    "Are you going to make hypocritical posts every day so I can point them out every time?"

    You'd have to learn what hypocritical means first. I'm sure you'd write something everyday though.

    Delicious comment. Cecelia, simply delicious.

    Grammie

    anonyloon, you claiming I only harassed mike while you admitting to harassing me is hypocritical. Ok, einstein? Keep posting, please.

    Chicken Blogger, how did you get from here:

    "If you want to embrace an amorous identity like Chicken Blogger for the cover it gives you then you should have the grace to accept the pitfalls that comes with the territory.

    Grammie
    Posted by: Janet Hawkins at January 26, 2008 4:12 PM"

    To here:

    "So anyone posting as ANON should be banned according to Hammie Hawkins.
    Your jack boots are showing. You make a good republican.
    Posted by: at January 26, 2008 4:39 PM"

    Suggesting that every choice has a downside and those willing to accept the benefits of a choice should make an effort to also accept the downside with at least some grace equates to:

    ".... anyone posting as ANON should be banned.....

    Your jack boots are showing.......
    Posted by: at January 26, 2008 4:39 PM"

    Jack boots? for suggesting a little accountability is in order.

    Chicken B, you do need to turn your hyperbole dial waaaaay waaaaaaaaaaaaay down.

    Grammie

    "anonyloon, you claiming I only harassed mike while you admitting to harassing me is hypocritical. Ok, einstein? Keep posting, please."

    No stupid it is not.

    hy·poc·ri·sy /hɪˈpɒkrəsi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hi-pok-ruh-see] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
    –noun, plural -sies.
    1. a pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principles, etc., that one does not really possess.


    I don't pretend I don't harass you, you pretend you don't harass mike. that makes you the hypocrite.

    Another demonstration of your vast stupidity. As I was saying you are the least intelligent person on this blog.

    RK, if our Chicken Bloggers just read some of the monikers used to post here it should be abundantly clear to them that they constitute a prima facie case for harassment both against individuals and the entire site by using harassment to commandeer the site.

    Thy name is Troll!

    Grammie

    4:50, that's the 3rd or 4th time you've proven yourself wrong today. Keep posting, please. Keep showing what a self-righteous prick you are, too. The fact that you claim I harass mike doesn't make it true, therefore I'm not a hypocrite. If I claim you are a secular progressive would it make it true? No, it doesn't. Keep posting, I'm sure you will do it for me.

    "RK, if our Chicken Bloggers just read some of the monikers used to post here it should be abundantly clear to them that they constitute a prima facie case for harassment both against individuals and the entire site by using harassment to commandeer the site.

    Thy name is Troll!"

    Of course your ad hominem attacks every single post really contribute to the excellent and highly illogical discussions that frequent this board.

    RK,

    Please... please.... don't persist in feeding the mythological beings who live under bridges.

    Rk you really are the least intelligent conservative on this site.

    Posted by: at January 26, 2008 2:22 PM

    As I was saying you are the least intelligent person on this blog.

    Posted by: at January 26, 2008 4:50 PM


    Make your mind up, loser.

    You're right, Cecelia. I'll let his posts speak for themselves.

    So anyone posting as ANON should be banned according to Hammie Hawkins.
    Your jack boots are showing. You make a good republican.

    Posted by: at January 26, 2008 4:39 PM

    Of course your ad hominem[sic] attacks every single post really contribute to the excellent and highly illogical discussions that frequent this board.


    Posted by: at January 26, 2008 5:21 PM

    Couldn't resist these gems. Now, I'm done.

    " Keep posting, please. Keep showing what a self-righteous prick you are, too. The fact that you claim I harass mike doesn't make it true, therefore I'm not a hypocrite."

    Well there you go misusing "hypocrite" again. i would have thought the dictionary would help you. Of course you are lying sack of shit who mocked and harassed mike daily. It's true you know it's true (or maybe you don't you are very stupid.)

    "If I claim you are a secular progressive would it make it true? No, it doesn't. Keep posting, I'm sure you will do it for me."

    Jesus you really are a contemptible human being. Are you honestly claiming that you did not harras mike/ that you did not follow virtually every post he made with some childish mocking comment devoid of logic reason or evidence? You are a scumbag Rk.

    "Couldn't resist these gems. Now, I'm done."

    Sorry Rk different Anon's.

    "If I claim you are a secular progressive would it make it true? No, it doesn't. Keep posting, I'm sure you will do it for me."

    Jesus you really are a contemptible human being. Are you honestly claiming that you did not harras[sic] mike/ that you did not follow virtually every post he made with some childish mocking comment devoid of logic reason or evidence? You are a scumbag Rk.

    Posted by: at January 26, 2008 5:31 PM


    So, you're denying you are a secular progressive? When an olbyloon calls me a scumbag, I know I'm making progress. Thanks. I'll take that as a compliment, too. Now, I'm actually done w/you, troll. Go over to the news hole and check out all of those 'dissenting' posts and get back to us, ok?

    P.S. If you got a thing for mike, maybe you and him should hook up.

    "So, you're denying you are a secular progressive?"

    Nope. I'm most definetly a secular progressive.

    " When an olbyloon calls me a scumbag, I know I'm making progress. Thanks. I'll take that as a compliment, too."

    Well there is really no limit to your stupidity.

    "Now, I'm actually done w/you, troll. Go over to the news hole and check out all of those 'dissenting' posts and get back to us, ok?"

    Another logical fallacy. How do you do it every post?

    "P.S. If you got a thing for mike, maybe you and him should hook up"

    Well I'm sure you would like that being a closet homosexual and all (not that there is anything wrong with that) But I'll pass. I notice you didn't answer my question about Mike as well. this is why you are a scumbag (I'm glad you like the title because it fits you) Because you harrased the shit out of the guy, and won't ever own up to it. I bet there are very few things you've ever owned up to in your life; isn't that right RK?

    Now I'm through with you little man. So take your double digit IQ and run along.


    "So, you're denying you are a secular progressive?"

    posted by cowy

    I was making a point with this question, but, with your iq being what it is, you didn't get it. Shocker. Thanks, teach!

    Oh no, my performing monkey, I got the point you were trying to make. It is a logical fallacy but that is par for the course. You were trying to say I apply a label without evidence as you would be by calling me a secular progressive.

    A moronic argument (not that I expect less) but we both know you harassed mike you know there are hundreds of examples of it and we know that you would deny every one of those examples because you are a total and complete scumbag.

    lesson complete.

    Ok, you can stop crying about mike, anytime now. There has been only one other person that posts here who was fool enough to defend mike and that was the poster who used to use the name 'why'(sometimes) until he accused me of posting an article w/out attribution when it was right there plain as day. He has made few posts under 'why' since. Hundreds of anonys, though. Shocker.

    RK, if you keep feeding the trolls they will never go away.

    Grammie

    Faker alert at 5:32.....No real republican who would say "What happened to real GOPers like Goldwater and diMato?" would even think about voting for Paul (let alone mess up Ronald Reagan's last name).....

    Please take the trolling somewhere else.....and enjoy voting in the democratic primary....I am sure that is where you are registered.


    Posted by: cee at January 25, 2008 5:41 PM


    This interesting. Phari-cee is applying his "Gnostic" argument - which he uses to distance his particular religious cult from any Christian today or throughout history with whom he disagrees, or who may be guilty of barbarities - to the stark divisions developing in his political cult.

    American fascists; you ignore this at your peril: Phari-cee is the ultimate arbiter for christianist and Republican thought purity.

    I just found out I've being harassed.

    Now why didn't I know that?

    Good question, better talk to your water packer. He was the one crying about it.

    Hey it's his board, if he is only offended by liberals that is his business. but get off the crack sharon he (Cox) does not welcome dissenting opinions, occasionally he will tolerate them.

    Posted by: at January 26, 2008 2:01 PM

    RK harassed mike for months

    Posted by: at January 26, 2008 3:01 PM


    >

    Anyone who cares to go back and read the comments and the various guest posts will see plenty of pro-KO sentiment on this site. They will also see lots of links to pro-KO sites. Even I have occasionally defended Keith.

    The problem is not pro-KO comments, it is people who behave on this site in such a way that they discourage other people from commenting. Foul-mouthed rants, spam and self-serving promotional links (see Ron Paul supporters) are the surest path to a ban - and even then I act VERY SLOWLY on banning anyone.

    Those people who imagine I would seek to ban pro-KO sentiment on this site are people who also imagine that we actually take Keith (our ourselves) seriously.

    Lighten up people - this is supposed to be about fun and entertainment. We are not saving the world here.

    It was hard enough reading this stuff the first time. I don't think I'll go back.

    and even then I act VERY SLOWLY on banning anyone.

    Posted by: Robert Cox at January 27, 2008 9:58 PM


    Whatever you do Rob, don't go banning Phony Soldier. You wouldn't be able to keep posts up with anti rope smoking and spear chucking if you did. Good work.
    Bi-partisan as usual.

    I'll second that emotion.

    In the new spirit of this site, can we discuss issues like the economy and the war from time-to-time if we always blame the problems on Bill Clinton and if we always tell Cecelia, Cee, Grammie, Royal King, Phony Soldier and Sharon that they are wise and wonderful people who add so much to our lives and if we contribute to the Bush on Mount Rushmore fund?

    Contrite, Please!

    Give me a break. This site is up to comment on Olbermann's skin color, glasses, big fat ass, and young girlfriend.

    Any off-topic commentary will get you banned. Consider yourself warned.

    Cox has been very clear about what type of behavior gets people banned. Excessive profanity, multiple identities who appear magically to prop up the first altar ego's posts, etc. Disagreements and "off-topic" discussions have never been a reason for being banned here, but spin it any way you would like, after all, if you Olbyloons couldn't bend the truth Olbermann does, you wouldn't have a reason to exist would you?

    P.S.-his girlfriend is 23 (he's now 49);
    his skin IS orange, and reports have it he does use Viagra. Those are facts.

    Oh, and the site is named Olbermannwatch, not BushWatch.

    Please realize that you aren't going to be able to "argue" trolls away.

    They feed on the emotions stemming from your desire to attempt such a thing-- disgust, annoyance, frustration, pique.

    This is what makes them fat. Stop dishing it up.

    P.S.-his girlfriend is 23 (he's now 49);
    his skin IS orange, and reports have it he does use Viagra. Those are facts.

    Posted by: at January 28, 2008 3:45 PM

    THAT'S what I'm talkin about!!
    Woo hoo!!! Great input.

    Cox has been very clear about what type of behavior gets people banned. Excessive profanity, multiple identities who appear magically to prop up the first altar ego's posts, etc.

    Posted by: at January 28, 2008 3:45 PM

    So please let us know why he issued a warning to Phony Soldier and no one else.
    And also let us know why PS was not banned after posting profane messages AFTER the warning.

    Thanks in advance.

    I have a fair approach to banning based on a clearly stated policy which I hereby amend to include banning anyone who complains about banning.

    That goes for you 68.39.253.155 (otherwise known as "what do you care what my name is?" "Bob", "Ropeadope", "the realist", "What do you care", "Why don't you think", among other names - and often with no name). The only reason I did not ban you just now is that you've posted 4,474 comments from that IP address since May 2007 and I am not prepared to wipe out those comments unless you violate a known policy.

    So now you know - anyone complaining about bans will be banned.

    The only reason I did not ban you just now is that you've posted 4,474 comments from that IP address since May 2007

    Posted by: Robert Cox at January 28, 2008 7:18 PM


    Are you sure, Bob?

    Not even in the interest of environmentalism?

    4,474 posts and he was never right......

    Is that some kind of record?

    4,474 posts and he was never right......

    Is that some kind of record?

    Posted by: cee at January 28, 2008 8:02 PM


    I'll give him a C+ for effort. Thanks, teach!

    I am pining for a melodramatic moment so that I can, fighting back my laughter, tell Bobo that "parting is such sweet sorrow".

    Bobo, I may have missed some of your bitching so please reiterate them so that, well you know,,,,,,,,,,,!

    Grammie

    After today's craziness on the left Professor, I would think you'd find somekind of quiet spot to cry......

    Clinton Co. being rebuked by their betters in the lefty power elite.....

    Senator Kennedy could not even pronounce the fine Illinois Senator's name 3 years ago ("Senator, Osama, eck, bin laden, hiccup, borama, ick") and now he is campaigning for him.....Wonderful!.....

    All the while giving devastating critique of all things Clinton......

    character attacks....racial politics....gender politics......not serving in Vietnam.......first President to be inspiring since JFK.......

    Wasn't your pal, the adulterous sodomite Bill Clinton President during the time since JFK?......Caroline sure made it clear her true opinion of him!

    Oh boy....the democrats are sure gonna be fun to watch as the powerful Clinton Co. push back the insurgency.......

    The establishment cannot handle the challenge....already NOW and the rest of the feminazis are counterpunching the gas bag from Mass......

    And poor Professor Honeydew comes to OW and chides the posters.....oy......

    4475 posts and he still can't get it right......

    "4475 posts and he still can't get it right......
    Posted by: cee at January 28, 2008 9:27 PM"

    Cee, that reminds me that quite a while back I counted the total number of comments (I have lots of time b/c I only have to worry about myself) in a thread and then compared them to Bobo's. He alone as Bobo (we know he uses many other names and Anon) accounted for 1/3 of about 200 comments.

    Busy little beaver isn't he?

    Grammie

    Funny, 'why' claims obama is going to win and as anon he claims billary will win.

    TDF!!!!!

    Gee, should we just SKIP THE ELECTIONS and move right on to the riotous celebrations?

    Just a thought.

    Grammie

    Nope...I want you to squirm all the way till November watching your party disintegrate right before your own eyes.
    A long slow death march to the elections will be so much more fun...for me.
    Not so much for you though.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at January 28, 2008 11:49 PM


    Apparently, the puffing post, 'whys' fav blog hasn't told him how the (d)'s are fighting like cats and dogs. TDF!!!!(*)======

    Bobo, you warmongering fiend you.

    As you said "A long slow death march to the elections will be so much more fun...for me."

    You are willing to let innocent civilians, including babes in arms, and our brave men and women die for no other reason than you can sadistically watch your political opposition suffer on a long protracted death march (your words).

    Ooh the humanity lost just to feed Bobo's sadism.

    I happen to believe that we are in a struggle for not only our way of life but also to help spread it to as many parts of the world as we can because it is not only the right thing to do but also the best to preserve for ourselves.

    Grammie

    Nope...I want you to squirm all the way till November watching your party disintegrate right before your own eyes.
    A long slow death march to the elections will be so much more fun...for me.
    Not so much for you though.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at January 28, 2008 11:49 PM

    Apparently, the puffing post, 'whys' fav blog hasn't told him how the (d)'s are fighting like cats and dogs. TDF!!!!(*)======
    Posted by: royal king at January 28, 2008 11:57 PM

    It's so unusual that parties "fight" during the primaries, eh Royal Lube Job ?
    You truly have a few loose screws.

    Enjoy the death march !

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at January 29, 2008 12:04 AM


    First the loon claims the (R)'s are disintegrating, then the loon claims they both do it when I point out the (d)'s are the ones actually disintegrating. Not funny, it's sad.

    Nope...I want you to squirm all the way till November watching your party disintegrate right before your own eyes.
    A long slow death march to the elections will be so much more fun...for me.
    Not so much for you though.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at January 28, 2008 11:49 PM


    WDYT, instead of channeling your rage into politics, why don't you take up professional wrestling or something?

    I think you'd have a title in your future.

    Cecelia, what will I do all alone while you are being "slung over the railing and pounded into submission".

    I KNOW!

    I will use my secret decoder ring (from Ovaltine and Orphan Annie) to get instructions straight from Karl OOOOOOOOOOOOOH Rove.

    Come back as soon as you can. It is so hard to use my ring unless my tinfoil hat is adjusted perfectly.

    Grammie

    Booo!

    Grammie

    Do they have sports for alcoholic recluses?

    I'm sure you'd be the Tom Brady of that sport !


    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at January 29, 2008 12:46 AM


    Indeed they do. Wide World of Coaxing Internet Trolls Into Self-Relevatory Confessions of Violent Fantasies..

    And yes...yes, I am... :D

    Cecelia, what will I do all alone while you are being "slung over the railing and pounded into submission".

    Posted by: Janet Hawkins at January 29, 2008 12:59 AM


    You can be holding my drink. :D

    Archie whooooooooooooooo?

    Peyton whoooooooooooooo?

    Ely whoooooooooooooooooo?

    Quick, Cecelia, my ring is not working and I must decode this message that will save us from the EVIIIIIIIIL Bush!

    Grammie

    Hey Grammie....Just for the record..how many games did u see Archie Manning playing for the Saints this year ?

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at January 29, 2008 1:11 AM


    I'd wager it was significantly less than the number of posts you put here under various names since May '07, but then so is the national debt... :D

    Archie whooooooooooooooo?

    Peyton whoooooooooooooo?

    Ely whoooooooooooooooooo?

    Quick, Cecelia, my ring is not working and I must decode this message that will save us from the EVIIIIIIIIL Bush!

    Grammie

    Posted by: Janet Hawkins at January 29, 2008 1:22 AM


    Easy

    A

    P

    E

    Ape-- whooooo?

    Answer: You have 5000 of his aliases to pick from....

    "You can be holding my drink. :D
    Posted by: Cecelia at January 29, 2008 1:18 AM"

    Thank you so much, Cecelia.

    I will hold your drink while you save the WORLD only if it is Absolut on the rocks .

    I'll be so NERVOUS AND SCARED that I will need some courage to tide me through. :)

    Grammie

    When you got nothing...talk about "names" or "posts" . it all must seem relevant to a stone cold alcoholic.
    PS. Your "You can be holding my drink. :D" is not cute.
    There is nothing cute about alcoholism.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at January 29, 2008 1:29 AM


    Actually, referencing "names" and "posts" is far more appropriate response to your silly insults than my quoting Shakespeare or Socrates, genius...

    Come to think of it, Shakespeare and Socrates may be the only two names you haven't posted under. :D


    There is nothing cute about alcoholism.

    Posted by: Why Don't You Think at January 29, 2008 1:29 AM


    Stunningly logical as ever, Prof... Sure, you think alcoholism is a serious illness that should be treated seriously....

    That's why you're using it as an accusation against someone you couldn't pick out in a police lineup...eh?

    Ohmagod Cecelia, I'm crushed, simply crushed .

    Bobo doesn't think you're cute.

    How will you survive such a devastating blow?

    Or maybe he will think I am cute?

    If God is in his heaven He will spare me that.

    Grammie

    Thank you so much, Cecelia.

    I will hold your drink while you save the WORLD only if it is Absolut on the rocks .

    I'll be so NERVOUS AND SCARED that I will need some courage to tide me through. :)

    Grammie

    Posted by: Janet Hawkins at January 29, 2008 1:29 AM


    Great! Then pull this moronic ape dressed in women's leotards and roller skates off me.

    He can't land the first blow but his breath is terrible...

    Grammy,

    We're being very bad here feeding the troll of a thousand faces...

    Just give me a second to get my nose plugs and I will tag you so you can get some fresh air.

    Grammie

    I view this more like my cat playing with a hapless mouse. He bats them around unmercifully and gets such pleasure from it.

    However, you are right as always. We Angels must always set the example for others to follow.

    Grammie

    Cecelia, what will I do all alone while you are being "slung over the railing and pounded into submission".

    Posted by: Janet Hawkins at January 29, 2008 12:59 AM


    You can be holding my drink. :D


    Posted by: Cecelia at January 29, 2008 1:18 AM


    I almost fell out of my chair laughing so hard, thanks to both of you!

    I almost fell out of my chair laughing so hard, thanks to both of you!

    Posted by: royal king at January 29, 2008 2:14 AM

    RK, please do as we say and not as we do...

    Don't feed the trolls! :D

    Was that some lame SOU, or what? I have very low expectations of Bush, but he did not even meet those. It's amazing Pelosi didn't fall asleep and slump down in her chair. Cheney probably had to turn up all three of his pacemakers.

    Of course, what could he say? The economy sucks right now, but it will be better after I leave office? The Surge has worked, if you ignore the facts that the Iraqi government has ceased functioning, there were five troops killed in Mosul and the north is going up in flames? No Child Left Behind has worked, since we lowered the testing standards? What a miserable speech! What a miserable failure!

    Well, it's all denouement now.

    The professor's political analysis is as incomplete and contradictory as ever......

    It seems to me that the Clinton vs Obama means the use of racial and gender politics by one or both candidates.....What a horrible thing, don't you believe oh politically correct and super-sensitive Profeesor Honeydew?

    So far, it has been Clinton Co. trying to divide and conquer based on old stereotypes with regards to race and yet.....SILENCE from the dear hyperbolic professor.....

    Oh. and do you really think the election in November is already known?.....All of those I respect basically cannot know because of all of the unknowns.....especially with the good news coming out of Iraq and the quality of the candidates on both sides......

    Few have said this is going to be another election about George Bush......it is a minority opinion with little evidence but I would expext such behavior from you, professor.....

    It is interesting that the best polling results on the republican side, when put up against Clinton or Obama, is John McCain who's national security position is the closest to Bush's.....it seems the unpopularity is not automatically transferred like you suggest.

    Wah! Wah!

    People seem to like the Democrats.

    Wah! Wah!

    Stop your whining.

    People LIke Democrats? Actually, a new survey out shows that HRC has an "unfavorable" rating of nearly 50%, Obama's? Over 40.

    Keep believing that right up to November Brandon. Its one of a parcel of secret weapons in the Democratic arsenal. The Surge is working. The economy is sound. No one likes the Democrats. Say it loud and long. Let the hills ring with the sound. Free at last! Free at last. By next January we'll be free at last.

    Let the hills ring with the sound. Free at last! Free at last. By next January we'll be free at last.

    Posted by: at January 29, 2008 12:13 PM

    Yes, it's wonderful you might soon be able to shed your chains, drink at the same water fountain as everyone else, get out from under CIA surveillance, and have more of your earthly needs provided for you.

    Nobody knows the trouble you've seen...