May I ask the Olbermann supporters or defenders a question?

Isn't the O'Reilly obsession, at this stage, indicative of something wrong with Olbermann?

To drag out Jesse Jackson to play the race card is, frankly, pathetic.

But it's borne of just about everything pathetic in Olbermann's disturbing fixation with O'Reilly.

It's bizarre. Cuckoo-time bizarre.

Was listening to air america and all they do is attack gop or oreilly ot fox. I cannot listen to tha more than 2 mins and I see these people listening to this crap all day and take it for fact.

Bringing on Jesse Jackson and trying to flame the BOR lynching comment into a dismissal is an act of desperation on Olbermann's part. There is something twisted in his thinking when it comes to O'Reilly and he can't think rationally.

And Olby insisted it was a "flaccid non-apology" because he said "if my statement offended anybody". j$

More evidence the man has not a shred of credibility or dignity. His desperation is front and center, as usual.

I just don't see how anyone can still have respect for Keith Olbermann. Keith has proved time and time again that he's nothing more than a hypocrite and left wing water carrier.

Bill O'Rielly gave the same apologize David Shuster did.
I didn't hear Keith Olbermann do three shows on David or even mention it on his show.
If you're going to call out Bill for a weak apology and not David Shuster, that makes Keith a hypocrite.

This now the 3rd show in 3 nights on Bill O'Reilly.
Calling for resignation, hanging on his every word, having 5 minute segments on him every night, bringing on guest to talk about Bill, naming him several times a week the WPITW, Keith is wildly obsessed with Bill.

At this point I think Bill should have get a restraining order on Keith.
Granted what Bill said was wrong and he should apologize, but bring it up on one show and let it go, turn the channel Keith, watch Animal Planet or something.

I know in part Keith obsessed attacks on Bill are to get ratings, but I wonder if it backfires on him. If he portrays Bill to be such a nut, that people tune into Bill's show just to hear what he says next.

And what right does Keith have to call for anybody to be fired?
So you want to play Bill's boss and take away his livelihood because he said some dumb things on the air?
Jee, If I was Bill, I would walk a few blocks and punch you right in mouth.

I regret that years ago I recommended CD to friends and now they must think I was out of my mind. He has morphed into everything he rails against. What an embarrassment.

I know others who feel the same way - they're now former viewers.

> Bill O'Rielly gave the same apologize David Shuster did.
I didn't hear Keith Olbermann do three shows on David or even mention it on his show.
If you're going to call out Bill for a weak apology and not David Shuster, that makes Keith a hypocrite.

Shuster not ony didn't get reprimanded for 3 days by Keith, he got a "welcome back"

> . . . Keith is wildly obsessed with Bill.

At this point I think Bill should have get a restraining order on Keith.

Remember that mask of O'Reilly, the one Keith held while doing the Nazi salute, do you think KO makes Katy wear it during their "intimate moments"?

a hypocrite and left wing water carrier.

Posted by: James at February 22, 2008 10:18 PM

He's got the 'hypocrite' part down pat. He's not a very good water packer. How do you pack water w/no credibility? His buckets have holes in them.

Maybe Katy makes KEITH wear it!

Three days of attacking O'Reilly for defending Michelle Obamanation and the story still doesn't have legs. Sorry Olby, even the king of the race hustlers can not help you. Why don't you ask Jackson what he thinks about your "chicken and waffles" comment? Olbermann truly is Captain Ahab.

If there was nothing wrong with the New York Times story, Olbermann better inform his buddy Tim Russert. Apparently he has not gotten the memo.

> Maybe Katy makes KEITH wear it!

lol

that would explain how she could go thru with those activities

How many times did Olbermann offer up the word "racist" in discussing O"Reilly?

Yeah, you're Murrow all right.

Slippery Shuster slides his way back
For idiocy he has a knack
He says many things dumb
Yet gets "great thanked" from
That slovenly political hack

The Media Matters Minute was pretty thin tonight. Attacking Frank Luntz for making a joke that all the Democrats in the room laugh at. Talk about scrapping the bottom of the barrel but I guess that is why they picked Keith Olbermann to be their stooge.

AFTER 2-NITES VIEW, OBEY JUST JOINED THE ALL- MALE MEDIA CLUB OF SLOBBERING A..
H...'s regarding Senator Clinton's recent debate.

Will the hack beat the dead horse a 4th night?

Former Clinton aide defends McCain
By Jennifer Harper and Stephen Dinan

February 22, 2008

Lanny Davis, a former special adviser to President Clinton and longtime Democratic activist, challenged reports today that Sen. John McCain may have done a favor for a female lobbyist with a deal pending before the Federal Communications Commission — calling them meritless.

I don't know about the mask but would really like to know if Katy and Bear both simultaneously scream out ASSIDUOUS!!!!!

Grammie

There are several problems with Keith's attacks on Bill.

First off, Keith has already admitted that he attacks Bill because his fans or fan, expect him to.
So mainly he does it for ratings, which makes his complaints about Bill seem disingenuous.

Second, he complains about Bill so much it's like the boy who cried wolf.
Chicken Little is crying about Bill 3 to 4 times a week, after a while it gets old and stale.

One day Bill might say something that he should get reprimanded for and Keith will whine and complain about it. But the powers that be won't listen, they'll chalk it up to: oh it's just Keith attacking Bill again, never mind.

Twice this week after his segments on Bill, Keith being melodramatic stated to his guest:
"I'm sorry you had to be here under these circumstances"
Then the camera would cut back to a full head shoot of Keith, clearly disturb and upset has he soberly says "good night and good luck"
What a somber day in our society, lets all have a moment of silence please.

Daniel Day-Lewis couldn't have done a better acting job.

Keith get over yourself, Bill isn't a law maker, a congressman, a lawyer, Bill Gates etc..
He is a news commentator who influences nobody.
This is not an American tragedy, it's just a guy who puts his foot in his mouth like you have.

First it was the n word now it's the l word. Maybe Jessie and olberstick should write a dictionary of offending words so we can all be clued in. A little off subject but the big dustup over Jane Fonda and the c word surprised me. Much in the same way its ok for a black to say the n word on the tube, it makes perfect sense that she would be able to use the c word.

Lets ban the word lynch, rope, noose, tree limb, swinging......................

O'Reilly used a simple everyday term used for anyone that is being attacked. For Olby to call for O'Reilly to be fired is a big wet dream.

This is nothing more than the NY Times or CBS and Rather. These people never learn. They are making McCain and rpeublicans look better every day.

Olbermoronn's apology-of-the-day is a hoot (under these circumstances).

>I don't know about the mask but would really like to know if Katy and Bear both simultaneously scream out ASSIDUOUS!!!!!

Grammie, that's funny.

An overused word, indeed, but I wish I had a dollar for every time he described something as 'extraordinary'. Tired, just like his routine. Listen for it and take a shot each time you hear it - you'll be too drunk to finish counting.

A cop friend of mine in Jersey does free-lance security in Manhattan and has spotted DoucheBag entering various gay bath houses in SoHo and Greenwich....

its ok Keithy baby,,,we know,,,,it's all good....really

Mr. Olbermann did mention Mr. Schuster's comment at least once on his show, and did apologize for what Mr. Schuster on behalf of the network for Mr. Schuster's stupid and offensive comment. Mr. O'Reilly's comment was even stupider and more offensive than Mr. Schuster's, given the history of this country. To say I won't join a lynching party UNLESS is just obscene. Yes, the term "lynching" has more than one meaning, but when you use it in reference to an African American woman and especially when you say UNLESS you're tilting to one meaning over another.

Babbs...babe. So what do you think should happen to Bill? Should he be fired? Should he be suspended? Should he go on Al Sharpton's radio show and apologize? Get over the offended bull*&^%.

Isn't KO about to fry himelf. He has become such a clown, how long can NBC/MSNBC continue to have him co-host primary election coverage. I am for the free market and concede that there must be SOME audience for his "Countdown" or it wouldn't be airing at all. But he is surely becoming such an embarrasment with his obsessive-compulsive behavior. As a professional, I can testify He is REALLY SICK! I saw his "acting" job last night.... how "saddened" he was at BO's comment. Can't even his loyalists see through him by now???? He's a nut-job. Why do they have him sharing the same screen with Tom Brokaw and Pat Buchanan, et.al ? ? ?

Reading over these posts and having heard what O'Reilly said, another non-issue like the Times hit piece on McCain. Nothing there...Lynch means to hang. O'Reilly was obviously using metaphor(in her defense,I may add). Olbermann is like the rest of the media, with media created rascism. Were Blacks the only ones ever "lynched"? People have been hanging criminals for centuries, and lynch mobs were common in the old west. The hip hoppers call their crews "posse" and that's as related to lynching as one can get. This is all hyper sensitivity brought about by race merchants the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Of course they constantly charge rascism, they wouldn't have a job if they didn't.
On another note, the FISA thing IS a big deal to the left for only one reason, which our orange "Hero" would never admit, and in his brainwashed world has probably never entered his limited mind. Taking away immunity from the telecoms opens up THOUSANDS of law suits from trial attorneys(John Edwards, anyone?) who are as much darlings of the left as unions, in other words key backers of the Democrat party. I as a taxpayer don't feel the telecoms should be endlessly sued for attorneys' best interest, i.e. their wallets, on our backs. Is Olby worried someone listened in on him, and the gov't now knows he gets pizza delivered with double cheese? The President is correct in saying this is dangerous because if you don't have the cooperation of the private sector, you're on a rough road...None of the MSM is showing what's happening in Europe as far as internal problems with Muslim populations. They are only now trying to do something to prevent Europe from becoming Eurabia. Pelosi left the FISA thing wide open, and this will cost the Dems in November. Getting back to trial lawyers, John Edwards made his bones suing doctors for not performing Caesarian sections to prevent Cerebal Palsy in some births. Enough time went by, and there has been no reduction in Cerebal Palsy even with the Caesarians. Did Edward's give the money back? The only thing that was accomplished is doctors are now doing them(Caesarians) way more routinely, causing women way more discomfort, longer healing times, and much higher hospital costs and insurance premiums. Great thanks Silky Pony...Trial lawyers,taxes, and insurances are slowly choking small businesses in America. I hope they're happy............

Jim Gibson, in response to your question of Olby's "loyalists" I've observed this election season for the left has become a sports-like mentality. Win at any cost, irregardless of fact. The backing of Obama is case in point. They know virtually nothing about him, he has virtually no voting record, was schooled by Marxist professors, yet they faint at his rallies. Reminds me of what I've read when Hitler was going after power. Politics has become sports to these people, issues be damned. Who better than a failed sportscaster to rally the brownshirts?

In response to Grammie's comment above: I don't know if they both scream "Assiduous" together, but I'd take 9-5 odds he's moaned "mommy" more than once.............Hope that's not too offensive to anyone other than the Great Orange "Jounalist"..............

Seems like Keith is trying to swift boat McCain. Keith "The razzle candy" of msnbc, is he a commentator, is he a news person, is he a sports caster. I don't remember any of the great journalists he wants to be like doing sports.

from the KO mini-blog on the left rail
"I tuned into MSNBC Wednesday evening and almost called 911 to report Keith Olbermann hyperventilating and on the verge of collapse. Olbermann was breathlessly speaking with his regular contributors about a 'scandal' involving Senator John McCain and a lobbyist that was being reported by the New York Times web site."

I can picture that moment. I wonder if the laughing stagehand is also a paramedic. They need to keep oxygen, defibrillators, and an EMT on the set because one of these days he's having the big one when he gets himself in a frenzy.

There's the money shot - seeing Chris Matthews doing CPR and mouth-to-mouth on Olbermann in the middle of primary coverage.

Continuing with that money shot...as the orange "jounalist" comes to, and feels Matthews' lips on his, he starts moaning with eyes closed, "Bill, Bill, I knew you'd come around to my unrequited love", as all of America throws up simultaneosly in its collective mouths..........

but I'd take 9-5 odds he's moaned "mommy" more than once.............Posted by: sheikyerbouti420 at February 23, 2008 11:33 AM

Well, you know SHE screams out DADDY! SHOW ME THE MONEY!!

There's the money shot - seeing Chris Matthews doing CPR and mouth-to-mouth on Olbermann in the middle of primary coverage.

Posted by: at February 23, 2008 1:19 PM

You give this a lot of thought, don't you?

Trent, with Olby's obvious compulsive obsession with Bill O'Reilly, it's kind of difficult to not imagine Olby in anything other than something completely homoerotic..He brings it on himself every night by naming the object of his man love as the Worst Person in the Wooooooorrrrlllld!!!!

Trent, with Olby's obvious compulsive obsession with Bill O'Reilly, it's kind of difficult to not imagine Olby in anything other than something completely homoerotic..He brings it on himself every night by naming the object of his man love as the Worst Person in the Wooooooorrrrlllld!!!!

Posted by: sheikyerbouti420 at February 23, 2008 3:04 PM

oh yes calling out someone's stupidity is homoerotic. I would like to know what Nietzche would think about you.

Remember that mask of O'Reilly, the one Keith held while doing the Nazi salute, do you think KO makes Katy wear it during their "intimate moments"?

Posted by: at February 22, 2008 10:33 PM

Maybe Katy makes KEITH wear it!

Posted by: johnny dollar at February 22, 2008 10:50 PM

that would explain how she could go thru with those activities

Posted by: at February 22, 2008 11:03 PM

I don't know about the mask but would really like to know if Katy and Bear both simultaneously scream out ASSIDUOUS!!!!!

Grammie

Posted by: Janet Hawkins at February 23, 2008 2:06 AM

A cop friend of mine in Jersey does free-lance security in Manhattan and has spotted DoucheBag entering various gay bath houses in SoHo and Greenwich....

its ok Keithy baby,,,we know,,,,it's all good....really

Posted by: sixstringbassplayer at February 23, 2008 10:08 AM

In response to Grammie's comment above: I don't know if they both scream "Assiduous" together, but I'd take 9-5 odds he's moaned "mommy" more than once.............Hope that's not too offensive to anyone other than the Great Orange "Jounalist"..............

Posted by: sheikyerbouti420 at February 23, 2008 11:33 AM

There's the money shot - seeing Chris Matthews doing CPR and mouth-to-mouth on Olbermann in the middle of primary coverage.

Posted by: at February 23, 2008 1:19 PM

Continuing with that money shot...as the orange "jounalist" comes to, and feels Matthews' lips on his, he starts moaning with eyes closed, "Bill, Bill, I knew you'd come around to my unrequited love", as all of America throws up simultaneosly in its collective mouths..........

Posted by: sheikyerbouti420 at February 23, 2008 2:12 PM

Well, you know SHE screams out DADDY! SHOW ME THE MONEY!!

Posted by: at February 23, 2008 2:28 PM

WOW.
9 comments out of 37 have mentioned KO in various sexual situations. Some from the typical nuts, but others from such respectable types like J$ and Gummie, er, Grammie.
Gay sex fantasies, role playing fantasies, you name it...

For people trying to show how Olbermann lowers the bar you are pretty much as low as it gets.

OlbermannWatch: The Crapper

I think we can make it an even 10 since you brought up 'sexual situations' as well. If you want to see a real crapper, check out watchingolbermannwatch.com!

> oh yes calling out someone's stupidity is homoerotic.

Are you saying our calling out KO's stupidity is homoerotic?

That's an odd statement.

If you've ever heard Olbermann and Musto I wouldn't go attacking the fact that here 9 comments out of 37 have mentioned KO in various sexual situations. This is tame stuff compared to their conversations, and they are on semi-national TV.

I bet Olbermann has a really big penis. I bet he uses it regularly in all kinds of sexual situations.
I bet he has gay sex.
I bet he dresses up like O'Reilly.
I bet he yells out "assidious".
I bet he often falls into homoerotic situations on the set of countdown.

I would love to see olbermann's penis.
That big, veiny, meaty penis.
Mmmmmmmmmmm..........

average OW repub - did you lift this from Olbermann's diary and just insert his name where he had written O"Reily?

I'll betcha average ow republican is the same troll that made the 3:13 post above. Chiding us for what he just did.

Olbermann is clearly all-in with the O'Reilly attacks, now branding him a "racist"

Amazing what NBC News stomachs with Olbermann. His buddy Abrams has his back and he can he call Obama "Chicken and Waffles" and get away with it.

Dear Keith Blubbermann

For your information. From 'The Radio Factor'.

“While talking to a radio caller, I said there should be no lynching in the case. That comment off Clarence Thomas saying he was a victim of a high tech lynching. He said that on 60 Minutes you may remember. I’m sorry if that statement offended anyone. That was not my intention. Context is everything.”

Nuff Said.

Now go soak your FAT ASS In the tub Stupid.

BTW Let's make it Eleven.

Keith, Do you let Creepy Musto play with your Rubber Ducky?

average OW repub - did you lift this from Olbermann's diary and just insert his name where he had written O"Reily?

Posted by: at February 23, 2008 8:09 PM

Now THAT is humor.
Are you by chance in the fourth grade?

Puck sucks dick regularly. I know Puck sucks dick, because olby sucks told me so. olby sucks claims that Puck gives the best head in town.

I’m sorry if that statement offended anyone. That was not my intention. Context is everything.

I’m sorry if that statement offended anyone. That was not my intention. Context is everything.

Posted by: michael at February 23, 2008 11:03 PM

Context is everything, so if you're comfortable in revealing that you're the emotional equivalent of a very troubled ten year old, who are we to object.

The only thing we're "offended" for is any members of your poor family who managed to develop normally.

Oh more good news today....

Ralph Nader, the real agent of change not beholden to corporate interests, is entering the campaign....This should make our deal democrats tact even more out of the mainstream and to the left causing more centrist and moderate support to go to McCain.

Clinton Co. is not ready to give up yet....All this wonderful material to use against Obama in the general election right from the horse's mouth....same old politics while he claims he's change...I really am starting to think that Obama is not very deep and the facade that has been created will be vulnerable to the light and fire or truth....

Especially when it is backed up from his fellow democrats.

Posted by: Cecelia at February 24, 2008 6:12 AM

Thanks Cecelia. But it probably ACCS or RK or WDYT. When you've just been knocked out of the park what do you expect the SD's to come back with?

Offended? Nah! You just laugh at garbage like that. 'Trailer Parks' tend to breed this crap. Especially the ones that live under high tension wires.

Back to Stupid er, I mean Olby. He's trying an old 80's trick with Jackson. Now I bet he's hoping that Jackson will do his dirty work ( You don't expect the 'Laziest Newscaster' in Cable News) for him.

He's hoping that Jackson will go on one of his famous 'Shakedown Tours' of radio stations that run 'The Radio Factor' or newspapers that run Bill's weekly 'Talking Points column. And have them drop either.

Watch for Olby to come on next week and crow about how 'HE' has made the 'Print whatever Here' drop Bill's Radio Show or Newspaper Column. Which probably won't be the case. Olby lie? Never!

But watch, as you will never see AL Sharpton on 'Meltdown' because Al could ask about the 'Chicken & Waffles coment. Don't want to take a chance on that, Al & Bill have been known to be dinner pals at Sylvia's.

Just like his friend 'Mental Michael' above, Olby hopes there are enough SD's out there so this 'Racist' word will stick.

This ain't the 80's Olby. plus someday, somewhere you are going to get called on the crap you say other than here. Like Tony Snow has said. "You can fit Keith's friends in a phonebooth'. Not much backup there. And like Tony said Friday while guest hosting "The Radio Factor'. "Theres no better friend than Bill O'Reilly."

'Mental Michael' throws out something over and over, hoping it will stick. And I'm sure if we decided to 'WASTE" our time to go over to his trailer park and walk through his front door he would explain his wisdom to us.

Right after he takes 'Uncle Joe's Candy Cane' out of his mouth.

***********************************

One more point about the E.D. Hill coment Stupid made this week.

E.D. Hill: (from Winki)

A graduate of the University of Texas with a bachelor's degree in journalism, she is working on a master's degree in government. Hill won a local Emmy Award for Outstanding News Special while working for WHDH-TV in Boston (1990-91), and has also received a Golden Quill Award for live spot news reporting.

She has been married three times and is the mother of five children and stepmother to her husband's, venture capitalist Joe Hill, three children from a previous marriage.

So that's eight Kids? So if anything else, here's a Woman, That gets up, see's the eight kids off ( how many are still home?)
Go's to work. Does her hour show, gets home in time for the school bus. And does this five days a week?

Yeah, we can say she can flub a line once in a while.

Olby: (from Winki)

he earned his bachelor of science degree in communications arts from Cornell University.

Gee, Wow!

Has a large Baseball Card Collection.

Whoopie!

Read sports scores for twenty years on various media outlets.

I'm blown away! How about you?

Oh, and last thing from Winki......

"The 6-foot-4, 250-pound broadcaster said he hoped to lose 50 pounds (he had already lost 15 of those). His battle with the bulge was featured on his evening sportscasts. He offered layman's tips on how to gain control over what you eat and he weighed himself in front of the camera. Olbermann decided to attack his problem when he heard a second-hand comment a friend had made about his weight."

So if you see 'Chubby' out on the streets of Manhattan, yell at the top of your lungs 'FATASS'!

No doubt he'll know where it's comin' from and who it's directed to. And don't worry, It's not like 'Mr. Tough Guy' is going to come over and do anything about it.

First, comment, sorry it's early.

Second, Cee, You know why do the SD's have to worry and fret over who to choose?

They can have have the best of both worlds!

http://www.amsterdamnews.com/news/Article/Article.asp?NewsID=84522&sID=4

DON"T YOU LAUGH CEE!!!!

She already has an endorsement! Sort of.

http://www.allthingscynthiamckinney.com/MumiaSaysCynthia_the_reality_of_change

The SD's, the gift that keeps on giving.

Puckisms:

"So if you see chubby out on the streets of Manhattan, yell at the top of your lungs FATASS!

No doubt he'll know where it's comin' from and who it's directed to. And don't worry, it's not like "Mr. Tough Guy" is going to come over and do anything about it."

Of course he wouldn't.....Any Sane person would typically go in the opposite direction when they are yelled at on the street by a mentally unstable stranger.

Posted by: michael at February 23, 2008 11:03 PM

Posted by: Mike at February 24, 2008 12:02 PM

mentally unstable eh?

Puck, that'snot mike, I don't think. It's one of his water packers/defenders. A very desperate olbyloon.

Well, whatever whoever.

Mikey/Michael

Wuzz up wit dis?

Michelle Obama's thesis ... is unavailable until Nov. 5, 2008, at the Princeton library. I wonder why."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8642.html

Remember John & 'T' Kerry's unavalible Tax Returns?

Remember Bill Clinton's unavalible Medical Records?

Pattern within the Party?

Puck, that'snot mike, I don't think. It's one of his water packers/defenders. A very desperate olbyloon.

Posted by: olby sucks at February 24, 2008 12:58 PM

Okay then we'll go with birds of a feather.

WASHINGTON – Two more Iraqis with false Bulgarian passports were detained by Mexican officials in Monterrey – bringing the total to four this month.

"Gay sex fantasies, role playing fantasies, you name it...

For people trying to show how Olbermann lowers the bar you are pretty much as low as it gets."

Did you happen to link to this sight from your Google search for Gay Sex Fantasies?

P.S. Feb 23 at 3:13, what's going on your life that you are performing an analysis of what is wrtiiten on this site.

Care to link us to a website such as Huffingtonpost, MoveOn or the DailyKos where you made the same remarks or is it that you deny a conservative his freedom of speech and that's the real crux of the matter?

"Any Sane person would typically go in the opposite direction when they are yelled at on the street by a mentally unstable stranger."

Another glimpse into what Mike is really all about. I'm sure you have ran most of your life Mike.

McCain might as well call the moving trucks. Mrs. McCain might as well call the interior designers.......adios, obama!

WASHINGTON - Ralph Nader said Sunday he will run for president as a third-party candidate, criticizing the top White House contenders as too close to big business and pledging to repeat a bid that will "shift the power from the few to the many."

Olby Sucks": "Puck, ths'snot mike."

What were you just saying about 2 other posters "not having enough intelligence" to recognize whether someone's name has been hijacked or not?

What were you just saying about 2 other posters "not having enough intelligence" to recognize whether someone's name has been hijacked or not?

Posted by: Mike at February 24, 2008 2:44 PM

Are you as dumb as olby or it is just an act?

"Are you as dumb as olby or is it just an act?"

The fact that you think Keith Olbermann is dumb doesn't say a lot for your IQ level.

It is also telling how you are always at your happiest when you are trading insults.

Stop the tivo! Olbypocrisy Alert! Was it a flaccid non-apology when Al Sharpton--on MSNBC--said "if I offended Mormons with the misuse of my words, I would apologize"? Or how about Chris Matthews: "If I offended anybody, I'm sorry"? Oh and most delicious of all, your very own Slippery Shuster: "To the extent that people feel I was being pejorative, I apologize for that." We're waiting for you to do three days of resignation demands on these people, Olbercrite!

There are many techniques to turn news into propaganda, and Keith Olbermann knows them all. Friday night's Hour of Spin provided an example so typical, and so deceptively elegant, that the credulous viewer (Countdown's stock in trade) no doubt swallowed it whole, oblivious to the disinformation tactics used by Herr Olbermann. They're not new, as those old enough to remember The Third Reich can attest, but even they didn't deploy them with Keith Oralmann's ruthless virtuosity.

The purpose was, of course, to smear a Republican: John McCain

The good news keeps rolling in....

"'A black man with a white mother became a savior to us,' [Farakhan] told the crowd of mostly followers. 'A black man with a white mother could turn out to be one who can lift America from her fall.'"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080225/ap_on_re_us/farrakhan_saviours__day_2

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YES!......The messiah references for the junior US Senator from Illinois just keep rolling in....now from one of the greatest minds and tolerant souls in all of the land.....Louis Farrakhan....

I am relieved Obama got this key endorcement! It makes me feel even better about him, being a "christianist" and all. It is good to see the likely democratic party nominee be wrapped up in all of this religious acoutrement.....the secular left must be wondering how to handle it all!

I wonder how Olbermann will cover this story tonight on COUNTDOWN?....Will he even mention it?....Afterall, the McCain lobbiest story is just becoming HUGE!

The secularist radical left is just so interesting....strange bed fellows are forming....a messiah that will redeem the country from it sins is the man for a group of people who cringe when others make such claims about divinity and absolute moral salvation.....oh the irony!

But now there is the rational and very secular lefty Ralph Nader presenting himself for the consideration of the rational and secular left.....I wonder if they can pry themselves away from the messiah worship and pretty words to reconsider their support....

wait, wait, now......wait for the sound of a rush away from the godly Obama.....oh no....they are still there wiping the tears away from their cheeks....how sweet!

Even Hillary had to be sarcastic about it all!......

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/52534.html

"THE SKY WILL OPEN, the light will come down, celestial choirs will be singing and everyone will know we should do the right thing and the world will be perfect."

HALLELUJIAH!

"But now there is the rational and very secular Ralph Nader presenting himself for the consideration of the rational and secular left."

Yes Cee, so "rational" that he cannot see how he might be personally responsible for GWB. So "rational" that he refuses to consider how his candidacy could just tip the balance in favor of McCain. So "rational" that he continues to pursue a presidency he can never actually attain, but he sure can possibly effect the outcome in a direction contrary to his own ideology.

Yes, the "good" news just keeps pouring in....as well as the dripping sarcasm.

"THE SKY WILL OPEN, the light will come down, celestial choirs will be singing and everyone will know we should do the right thing and the world will be perfect."

Well, all sarcasm aside, at least he has a positive message.

While you're busy wondering how stale that "yes, we can" message is going to get, I'm wondering how much staler that 'no we can't' message is going to become.

No, no, no, Mike....

McCain's line is:

"John McCain...Courageous Service, Experienced Leadership, Bold Solutions."

http://www.johnmccain.com/undecided/whymccain.htm

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"Yes, we can" is a great line because I can use it as follows:

"Yes, we can lose against Al Queda in Iraq!"

"Yes, we can allow anti-Semitism to grow unchecked and unchallenged throughout the world!"

"Yes, we can destroy the best medical system the world has ever seen!"

"Yes, we can raise your taxes!"

So many possibilites!

Oh and in regards to Nader....I was referring to the secular left being "rational," Mike. Falling for messianic themes and rhetoric is scoffed at by such elites and yet there is a way Obamessiah is getting to them...Nader is going to have to try to appeal to their logic if he is to save them from the revival tent mentality!

You do realize the irony of Obama's appeal, Mike? The far left has decided to abandon basic principles of rational thought to embrace someone who will likely have the thinnest resume ever running for President.....and basically because of high rhetoric and large crowds....

The same phenomenon we see at the oft maligned evangelical megachurches and at Farakhan's rally this weekend (he pulled in 20K!).

"The far let has decided to abandon basic principles of rational thought to embrace someone who will likely have the thinnest resume ever running for president."

It's as if you REALLY believe that previous and relatively recent presidents 'thicker' resumes have done us any good. I really could care less whether someone is qualified to be president on "day 1". I am much more concerned about how qualitifed they are on day 100, or day 200, ....
or year 1.

And no Cee...no principles are being "abandoned", this campaign will be based on higher principles than you could ever imagine. Bring up Farakhan all you will, the right wing slime machine is not going to succeed with their typical mud slinging, swiftboating, and negative associations THIS time.

I really could care less whether someone is qualified to be president on "day 1".

posted by mike

Along as he has a (d) after his name, that's all that matters to a hard core partisan. Not what's good for the country. Nice!

"Yes we can lose against Al Qeada in Iraq.".....You mean the "Al Qeada" that wasn't even there when we went in, and won't be when we leave either?

"Yes we can allow anti-Semitism to grow unchecked around the world".....THIS is certainly new one you've added to your list that has little or nothing to do with reality. I guess you think we can force people around the world to think a certain way?

"Yes we can desstroy the best medical system in the world.".....It is fascinating to see how your definition of "destroy" would be to strip away the costly and parasitic insurance monkey-on-it's-back dead weight in place of a system that doesn't lock out working Americans because of pre-existing conditions and their ability to pay?

"Yes we can raise your taxes".....And YOU have never once justified how you can rabidly support a war that is being financed with a mortgaged future while still demanding tax breaks for the wealthy that COULD in fact pay for the thing? Do you run your own personal finances that way?

You see Cee, this is going to be ridiculously easy...unless of course you manage to sneak the candidate you REALLY want to run against in through the back door with all this early negativism.

Well Mike, millions of American's have made such decisions based on less in the past and I recall some on the left crowing about it.....

I guess consistency of argument is not important here....

Especially in regards to endorcements.

Is Farakhan's support not a telling sign?

When I first posted that statement that "Olby Sucks" just copied at 2:52 PM, I recognized the possibility that this clown would use it but then leave out the rest (and most important part) of it.

I was right!

Olby Sucks, you have shown so many times that you have no ethics, no morals, no compassion, and no humanity.

He remains one of yours, Cee & Janet. Take him and embrace him.

Farrakhan has drawn attention for calling Judaism a "gutter religion" and suggesting crack cocaine might have been a CIA plot to enslave blacks.

The religion of 'peace'

© 2008 WorldNetDaily

An undercover survey of more than 100 mosques and Islamic schools in America has exposed widespread radicalism, including the alarming finding that 3 in 4 Islamic centers are hotbeds of anti-Western extremism, WND has learned.

"Is Farakhans support not a telling sign?"

I guess you're right Cee. Seeing how one of Your very own right wing hate hacks (Coulter) has already publicly stated that your own candidate isn't right wing enough for her, and that she will actively support Hillary.

Now critics are quietly voicing the fear that Mr Obama and his campaign have DELIBERATELY adopted the tone and tactics of an evangelical preacher, whipping up "Obamamania" at the expense of more serious discussion of policy and government.

There is "something just a wee bit creepy about the mass messianism" deployed by the black senator and his supporters, observed Joe Klein, the veteran political commentator the first to latch on to the political potency of Bill Clinton, then an obscure Arkansas governor, early in the 1992 White House campaign.

"The message is becoming dangerously self-referential," he wrote in Time magazine. "The Obama campaign all too often is about how wonderful the Obama campaign is."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/23/wUS123.xml

Cee, I really think your party's negative tactics that you keep touting are going to sink it this time......but maybe it's just my higher faith in basic human nature that those on you side seem to lack.

By mentioning "farakhan", you are attempting to marginalize the man as the "Black man's candidate".... or the new Jesse Jackson.

I hope Americans prove themselves to be smarter than that this time. I retain faith that they are.

"Yes we can allow anti-Semitism to grow unchecked around the world".....THIS is certainly new one you've added to your list that has little or nothing to do with reality.

Reality....just this past week, Mike, Iran's leaders made overtures about getting rid of the virus that is Israel and again, wiping them off the map.....

Through Hezbollah....the terrorist organization that was supported by Saddam Hussein (thank you for getting rid of him, George Bush) AND Iran (working to achieve nuclear capabilities).....

You see Mike, your ignorance regarding radical Islamic terrorism and the stated goals of killing people based on creed is inexcusable.....This is why Iraq is so important and must not simply be abandoned to radical islamists who will see such a victory as vindication of their hatred.....

Hatred present PRIOR to the removal of Saddam Hussein.

Obama's foreign policy statements have NO specifics regarding Israel and what is at stake in the middle east.

When I first posted that statement that "Olby Sucks" just copied at 2:52 PM, I recognized the possibility that this clown would use it but then leave out the rest (and most important part) of it.

posted by mike

Progress! You are actually thinking before you post.

Also, you are wrong. I posted the most important part.

"Iran's leaders made overtures about getting rid of the virus that is Israel and again, wiping them off the map......"

And so what is your point here? ..... Are you reminding us once again that there are bad men around the world?... I got news for you Cee, there always have been, and there always will be!

"Obama's foreign policy statements have NO specifics regarding Israel and what is at stake in the middle east."

And what's your pojnhere? Or are you insinuating that he agrees with the Iranian President?

"Also, you are wrong. I posted the most important part."

So now you're a mind reader too?

Whenever you post PART of a statement in a deliberate attempt to portray it as meaning something it doesn't, then you are LYING.

But then again, that IS pretty much ALL you ever do on this blog. You even admitted to engaging in smear tactics on this blog in one of your very rare moments of clarity.

Oh, and the past hatred of Farakhan's dove tails nicely from the naivetee of Obama....I will be interested to see if Obama makes comments on The Nation of Islam's anti-Semitism which again is a fact.

Anti-Semitism is a big problem on the left and it needs to be dealt with.....The treatment of Joe Lieberman is a perfect recent example.

"Oh, and the past hatred of Farakhan's dove tails nicely from the naivetee of Obama...."

All it really "dovetails" with is your own negativism in place of any ability to come up with anything positive in opposition. A sure sign of things to come.

When Obama endorses Farakhan, instead of the other way around......come see me!

"Anti-Semitism is a big problem on the left and it needs to be dealt with.....The treatment of Joe Lieberman is a perfect recent example."

Except that many on your side confuse "anti-Semitism with even mild criticisms of Israeli policy. It takes nuance to understand the difference.

The "treatment" of Liebermann has nothing whatsever to do with anti-Semitism" and everything to do with his rabid pro war stance along with his refusal to accept the will of the voters in the Democratic Primary.

All it really "dovetails" with is your own negativism in place of any ability to come up with anything positive in opposition. A sure sign of things to come.

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You're kidding, right? John McCain is an excellent candidate for President and has had my support since 1999. I appreciate those who differ on specific positions he holds and if it disqualifies him in their opinion I respect their decision....

BUT HE HOLDS SPECIFIC POSITIONS.....The soft foreign policy positions held by Obama with the total lack of experience as a national leader which provides objective tests of character and will......well, I think I am making a more informed decision....

Sorry for being rational, Mike.....I am not the type to be tearful and swooning over rhetoric and lofty speech.....Even with my history as a flat-earth fundy....

That's the irony!

"BUT HE HOLDS SPECIFIC POSITIONS."

The funny thing about THAT statement is that it makes the implication that the opposition doesn't.

While I respect McCain, I certainly do wonder about his recent pandering to the far right on issues I'm not certain he really believes in himself, such as taxation.

We will only find out what he REALLY believes on the things he has flip - flopped on if the disaster of him becoming president actually comes to pass.

Lieberman's positions with regard to Iraq DIRECTLY comes from his strong support for Israel and his undaunted stand against radical islam....That stand is because he is a Jew and many radicals in the democrat party would rather he not be a member of their party......

That is anti-Semitic.

You can rationalize it anyway you want, Mike. Saddam Hussein, like all radical islamist terrorists, was anti-Israel and killed millions through his support of groups like Hezbollah and his own actions.

Removing him from power was right and Lieberman, McCain, Bush, HRC (then), Kerry (then), and thousands of others were right to support that great accomplishment of our troops!.....Obama would rather have Saddam in power, supporting terrorism and even pursuing WMD as was his goal that now, 4 years later, could be getting in the hands of terrorists.

Lack of principle would allow one to oppose Saddam's removal from power but claiming now that was the right position.

NowI get it. mike wants to elect a 'learn as you go' president. Kinda like a 'manager trainee.' Perfect. That makes me feel safe.

I really could care less whether someone is qualified to be president on "day 1". I am much more concerned about how qualitifed[sic] they are on day 100, or day 200, ....
or year 1.

posted by mike

This could only mean one thing. mike wants a trainee president. All the while Iran is laughing in our face, taunting us on a daily basis. Terrorists are already here in the US planning attacks. mexicans are pouring across the border along with more terrorists, too. No wonder you are no longer in the corporate Field, your company probably went belly up with you in charge.

Cee: Obama would rather have Saddam in power,"

Maybe if the 4000 irreversably dead American troops and the many thousands of others who have had their lives virtually destroyed could be made whole again, and the untold billions put into the project could somehow be retrieved ... then that would probably be true.

But short of just such an impossibility, your charcterizations of him in that manner are both dishonest and disgusting.

This has always been about the cost and you damned well know it.

"This could only mean one thing. Mike wants a trainee president."

EVERY president is a "trainee president" when first inaugurated, cowboy.

"Perfect. That makes me feel safe."

One big difference between you and I. I already feel quite safe, and don't count on my president to make me feel snug and secure.....just to manage the government competently and protect our rights and Constitution.

Mike, it is an advantage Saddam Hussein is now gone and no longer a source of support for radical islamist terrorists attacking our allies, like Israel. Saddam is dead and no longer a source of WMD for these same terrorists. Saddam and his sons are dead and no longer torturing the Iraqi people, there is a democratic government struggling against the same hateful ideology as Saddam now and those troops are bravely fighting against it.

These three simple facts are a great achievement and I honor the men and women who have sacrficed to make these facts possible. It was worth it and anyone who says it was not derides their sacrifice.

Standing for freedom of religion and of thought is ALWAYS honorable and that is what those dead and wounded did and do, Mike. Using their great achievement as a political issue is always the left's mistake and sin and once again, you fall into it.

I doubt even the eloquent but policy vapid Obamessiah would not say what you posted.

It was worth it and anyone who says it was not derides their sacrifice.

posted by cee

Exactly. They don't get it. (the far leftists)

One big difference between you and I. I already feel quite safe, and don't count on my president to make me feel snug and secure.....just to manage the government competently and protect our rights and Constitution.

Posted by: Mike at February 25, 2008 6:11 PM

How loud would you be screaming "Bush!" if we were hit tomorrow? What will civil rights do with a nuke up your ass?

"It was worth it and anyone who says it wasn't derides their sacrifices."

A fine example of Cee playing God again.

By that logic, a president could do anything....anything at all....with any number of casualties....and at any cost....and people like you would claim that anyone questioning it would be "deriding their sacrifices."

Only God knows if the sacrifices were really "worth it" or not, but my earthly opinion is that they emphatically were not.

"How loud would you be screaming "Bush" if we were hit tomorrow? What will civil rights do with a nuke up your ass."

"Anyone who would give up liberty for security deserves neither"!

Only God knows if the sacrifices were really "worth it" or not, but my earthly opinion is that they emphatically were not.

Posted by: Mike at February 25, 2008 6:40 PM

I've said it before and I will say it again. Go find a family who has lost a loved one fighting for YOU and tell them what you just posted. And don't say you have because you will be lying. If you did say it, you wouldn't be sitting at your pc, well you might be, but, you're wife would have to type for you.

"Anyone who would give up liberty for security deserves neither"!

Posted by: Mike at February 25, 2008 6:43 PM

What liberty's have you lost? None.

What else could the government be monitoring that hasn’t already been exposed by the liberal press?

Well, it doesn’t matter. All of this domestic pre-emptive investigation has kept us safe. No attacks since 9/11. That’s what’s important. Our President has kept us safe. And sure, critics will quote Ben Franklin as saying anyone who would give up liberty for security deserves neither.

That’s great, Ben, but where did that get you? You’re dead.

We aren’t. Of course, neither is Osama bin Laden.

http://www.barkofthemoonbat.com/?p=54

So Mike, the thousands of US troops who died in WWII....not worth it?....I'm playing God if I said it was worth the high price paid?

The Civil War....The Vietnam War....Yes ALWAYS.....Because America has always fought for freedom and right and until I see the opposite I will believe it.....

Your problem is that you have bought the anti-American left's line that sometimes America does not fight for freedom and right.....if not then, those we are fighting (the radical islamists or the NVA) were in the right?

Nice...again Americans willing to side with totalitarians and terrorists.

Wrong.

And I am proud to stand with the troops in trying to give millions freedom and security. The price paid was worth it because the value of freedom always demands a high price when threatened by despotism.

Your problem is you think it does not...and that illogical thinking will destroy it.

"Your problem is you think it does not....and that illogical thinking ill destroy it."

First off, you don't have any idea what "my problem' is. I am far more complicated than you could possibly even imagine.

It alwways angers me a little when I see someone such as yourself, who have made NO sacrifices whatsoever yourself...say someone ELSE'S supreme sacrifice as "worth it"...especially within a situation that we no find ourselves in which the answer to that question is anything but a given.

I don't give a hoot whether YOU or not YOU think their sacrifices were "worth it". I want to hear it from THEM!

NO doubt many of them will think it was, but many of them will not either, and when someone like you or me claims that THEIR sacrifice was "worth it", we are doing anything but honoring those who gave so much but disagree. We are patronizing them!

I want to hear from the parent who has given up the rest of their life to care for their gravely damaged child.

I want to hear from the children growng up ithout a parent. I ant to know if THEY think it as "worth it"?

I want to hear from the soldier with no limbs condemned to a life of utter dependence. We need to know how many of THEM think it was "worth it"?

No matter what THEY believe, I honor every one of them...but it is not for me or you to decide whether or not their sacrifice as "worth it"!

I honor every one of them

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No, you don't. You use them like pawns in a chess game.

Oh, and Mike....tell Abe Lincoln, when you see him someday, that he should not have commented on the Union and Confederate dead's sacrifice at Gettysburg....

"But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate—we can not consecrate—we can not hallow—this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

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Mmmm, Did ol' honest Abe assume too much as well, Mike?

mike, if you watched or listened to anyone other than the orange faced hack you would see the parents and actual soldiers who have lost limbs and worse saying themselves they would do it all over again. I have seen countless parents and soldiers doing just that on Fox News. Keep your hands over your ears and eyes and deny all you want!

I've said it before and I will say it again. Go find a family who has lost a loved one fighting for YOU and tell them what you just posted. And don't say you have because you will be lying. If you did say it, you wouldn't be sitting at your pc, well you might be, but, you're wife would have to type for you.

Is Karl Rove running for President? Or any office for that matter? Oh, that's right, he works for Fox News!

Cee: "No you don't. You use them like pans in a chess game."

I "use" them for WHAT Cee? I like yourself, haven't had to sacrifice anything for this endeavor. I'm not 'using' anyone, but you sure as heck seem to be.

I, just like Obama, knew we were making a colossal mistake the day those tanks crossed the border into Iraq. My concern was always for my future fellow veterans, and what THEY ere going to have to face as a result of this madness....And to this day, we are refusing to take care of these veterans the way e should, just like many of us knew they wouldn't....all so people like yourself can continue to enjoy lower taxes in a time of war.

And spare me your never ending and absurd comparisons to the many far more honorable and necessary battles that we have fought in the past, mostly on or for the protection of our OWN soil and freedom.

The bottom line REMAINS that YOUR heros created an unjustified and far too costly war and quagmire that never should have happened....and we are all paying the price now in decreased military readiness, a worrisome national debt, and almost unprecidented divisiveness.....even if you don't REALLY value the individual sacrifices that OTHER people have had to make on your politically motivated behalf.

Olby Sucks, spare us your continuing illusion that all the troops and families think alike regarding this war.....because even I know you are not THAT dumb.

Show me where I used the word "all." I didn't. Poke your head back in the sand. I already know there is about 8 that disagree with the war. Your pal, new gal pointed us to the wonderful website a while back. The onw with oliver stoned.
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I've said it before and I will say it again. Go find a family who has lost a loved one fighting for YOU and tell them what you just posted. And don't say you have because you will be lying. If you did say it, you wouldn't be sitting at your pc, well you might be, but, you're wife would have to type for you.

cee, you forgot to remind the cult member, mike, that OBAMAS church honored farrakhan in a special ceremony.

January 14, 2008
Barack Obama's Church Honors Louis Farrakhan
Last month Barack Hussein Obama's church, Trinity United Church of Christ, bestowed upon Louis Farrakhan its highest social achievement award.

Pastor Louis' words of wisdom:

"White people are potential humans … they haven't evolved yet."

"A decree of death has been passed on America. The judgment of God has been rendered and she must be destroyed."

"There is no wicked nation in the past that approaches the evil that is practiced in America on a daily basis."

"It is an act of mercy to white people that we end your world. … We must end your world and bring in a new world."

"Our confrontation with America was [previously] like a fight against a fortress from outside, and today [with the NOI alliance] we found a breach to enter into this fortress and confront it."

"God will destroy America by the hands of the Muslims. — God will not give Japan or Europe the honor of bringing down the United States; this is an honor God will bestow upon Muslims."

Also, Farrakhan has denied al Qaeda's culpability in 9/11, and has accused President Bush of dynamiting levees in New Orleans.

For all this, Barack Obama's church gives him a lifetime achievement award.

Obama has been a member of the church for 20 years. Its leader Jeremiah Wright is a close confidant who helps him "keep his priorities straight."

This provides some insight into the intellectual background that lies behind the vapid platitudes Obama has been able pass off as thoughts to self-hating liberal fools.

That isn't a church Obama goes to, as it's a gathering of hate filled anti-Americans believing anything said about how bad the whites and America are, while disguising themselves as "Christian" followers.

Hmmm, sounds a little like my people. Change the "Christian's" to Muslim's and "church" to mosque, and maybe I'll be the next honeree!

No, even I don't want anything to do with Farrakhan, as he is just too over the top for me. I could never trust him as one of my cells, and it scares me to think that he probably has millions who adore him.

Then again, the fact that maybe the next leader of your weak country will be one of his followers, does make me feel tingly all over.

Allah willing this will happen, and then I could just sit back and watch the chaos ensue without ever leaving my cave.

Ironic though, that when my ancestor's tried the same thing with a cell by the name of David Duke, America got all over him, and yet with Farrakhan they not only leave him alone they embrace him.

And, his racism and anti-American rhetoric makes Duke seem like a tame copy of Eddie Haskel.

Ah, America how you have changed...First Obama's wife saying how she has never been proud of your country, and then this revelation about Obama paying his respects to a church that bestows honors on the biggest anti-American since ...well me!

It just keeps getting better and better! Allah is good!

Akuba!!! Ayeeee!!!!

Oh my....will we actually see the human induced global warming canard destroyed sooner rather than later....

"Over the past year, anecdotal evidence for a cooling planet has exploded. China has its coldest winter in 100 years. Baghdad sees its first snow in all recorded history. North America has the most snowcover in 50 years, with places like Wisconsin the highest since record-keeping began. Record levels of Antarctic sea ice, record cold in Minnesota, Texas, Florida, Mexico, Australia, Iran, Greece, South Africa, Greenland, Argentina, Chile -- the list goes on and on.

"No more than anecdotal evidence, to be sure. But now, that evidence has been supplanted by hard scientific fact. All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously."

http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Worldwide+Global+Cooling/article10866.htm

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Will Al Gore give his Nobel Peace Prize and Oscar back?

It will be interesting to see what the scientists who were so sure about the cause/effect of human activity/climate changes give us all as excuses....

Like I have always said....this stuff was never real science. I really think that considering the sun as the main influence on global temperatures seemed a better hypothesis.

cee, I've used the exact same argument in the past. The hard core alGore cultists claim that global warming causes snow. Go figure. new gal should be along anytime now to say just that.

Has any scientist proved a direct link between human activity and the changes in temeperature reported to have taken place since the formation of the earth? No

Has anyone explained the temperature DECLINE despite the prediction that human activity would cause temperatures to rise? No

Has any respected scientist totally dismissed the possibility that the temperature and climate changes could actually be because of natural phenomenon only? No

So go worship Al Gore in all his glory wannawipe....enjoy your religious experience!

"Global warming causes extreme weather conditions without balancing the destruction that has already taken place."

posted by banned loser from his neighbors basement

Proof, please. From a credible source. I live in ca. and have access to all the water I could possibly need. It's called a 'well.' Right now it's flowing 'artisan.' Stop by, I'll let you fill up your jug.

You see wannawipe, I was discussing human induced global WARMING....not lead in the water and air, PCP's in the soil, ozone in the air or mercury......A specific THEORY imposing catastrophic limits on human activity because of the claim that CO2, a natural gas that is part of the organic cycle, is causing rises in temperature.....

You cannot find anyone with a scientific mind to catagorically dismiss the possibility there are natural reasons beyond man's control for rises (and declines) in global temperatures.

CO2 is a natural and easily disposed of gas needed by plants and plankton, algae and other protozoa in the formation of energy and oxygen.

Natural sources of CO2 like my respiratory process, your respiratory process, volcano eruptions, etc. as well as that produced in the production of needed energy to run our cars, power plants etc. may not be the source of global temperature changes....it may be the sun or something else.....Why should I rely on someone's theory that seems not to be coming to pass with recent temperature DECLINES?

An open mind to being wrong is supposed to be part of the rational secularist lefty, wannawipe....some skepticism would be refreshing especially when data comes out that shows a DECLINE in global temperatures!

not lead in the water and air, PCP's in the soil, ozone in the air or mercury...

cee, patsy is simply chirping talking points lifted straight from the alGore's comedy movie.

junkscience.com

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