Keith is a tool of the first order. To hear him whine about the AP wire issue, knowing that he is the worst bomb thrower of the so-called cable "News" programs is laughable! Keith, have you no sense of honor? Dignity, perhaps?

Mort Kondrake has more integrity in his spent kleenex tissue than the filthy Olbermann will ever have.

I'm surprised Olbermann found fault with the SNL skit and choice for Obama. He may run into these people at 30 Rock and we know he cannot face anyone he has criticized or denounced.

Btw, no one gave the comedian in the # 1 story the memo that he wasn't to disagree with Olbermann. KO looked surprised and didn't quite know how to react when his guest didn't automatically agree with him. He won't be invited back.

What a dumbass picture,, but hey who would expect anymore from a FNC supported website

Kondracke is a hack.

What a dumbass picture,, but hey who would expect anymore from a FNC supported website

Posted by: Bill O'lielly at February 25, 2008 9:43 PM
Kondracke is a hack.

Posted by: Bill O'lielly at February 25, 2008 9:45 PM

If it is so bad, then why do you to visit this site asshole????

Was really bored yesterday and poked around the other KO blogs, and I laughed when I realized that if you add up all the posts at the pro-KO blogs together, they don't come close to Olbermann Watch! MSNBC's official site barely makes it out of single digits recently.

If the Countdown is so bad, why do you watch that? This website is a joke. And yeah, it was accident coming here. Enjoy the next 8 years of progressive liberal rule! HAHA Suckers, you messed it up, time for us to take it back! Good luck in the general election, you'll have plenty to complain about anyway.

Long live KO!!!

Why would it be an accident to come to the #1 Keith Olbermann blog in the world?

God bless Col. Jack!

If you
look closely at the picture above, you will note that all the Marines pictured
are bowing their heads. That's because they're praying.
This incident took
place at a recent ceremony honoring the birthday of the corps, and it has the
ACLU up in arms. "These are federal employees," says Lucius Traveler, a
spokesman for the ACLU , "on federal property and on federal time. For them to
pray is clearly an establishment of religion, and we must nip this in the bud
immediately."
When asked about the ACLU's charges, Colonel Jack Fessender,
speaking for the Commandant of the Corps said (cleaned up a bit), "Screw the
ACLU." GOD Bless Our Warriors, Send the ACLU to France ."

Even at Democratic Underground they are getting sick of KO's 30 minute Hillary bash every night.

If the current Dem Campaigns are any indication of " the next 8 years of progressive liberal rule", we are in store for a clownish cluster frack of the first order!
PROGRESSIVE LIBERAL RULE

Obamy and his ears resemble a taxicab with the doors hangin open. HA!

Totally off topic, however quite interesting regarding Dem hero Bill Clinton and his cuckold wife Hillary :

Gennifer Flowers is putting the tapes of her recorded conversations with Bill Clinton during their 12-year affair on the auction block, Vegas Confidential learned Monday.

Flowers, who came forward during Clinton's 1992 Presidential election campaign with details of the relationship, said she decided to part with the tapes after renewed interest surfaced. She was offered $5 million by a Japanese collector in the 1990s, she said.

Asked about the timing of her announcement coming out as Hillary Clinton continues to slide in her presidential bid, “I don’t need to hurt Hillary. She is doing a fine job of that herself, along with her idiot husband. Karma is an interesting thing. If these two don’t get elected, and they are a team, it will be karma coming back to visit them. It's about time."

The truth about the Karl Rove smear is that CBS used the same trick the New York Slimes used. CBS claimed they spoke to Rove and asked him about the story before they ran it. This is of course is a lie. They never called Rove who said he would have done an interview. The liar they interviewed for the story had been asked repeatedly about this in the past and denied it. So, was she lying then, or is she lying now. I guess to CBS, it doesn't matter.

If cable networks were animals and ratings were food, Fox would be a strong and capable lion feeding at will, CNN would be a despicable but clever Hyena stealing food from the lions though deception and trickery, and MSLSD would be the vulture, content to feed on the Hyena's decaying leftovers.

Even lefties must admit that Keith looks like a vulture. The sneer, the sloped shoulders, the hump on his back, the foul smell, the beady eyes -- how much more evidence do you need?

It was interesting seeing Keith squirm while trying to distance himself from SNL's parody of the media fawning over Obama. Exactly how many times did KO say "CNN", as if to imply it was only CNN that SNL was parodying? In the skit, the debate moderator said that no one could follow Obama's statements because he was so eloquent. That is almost verbatim what Olbermann said on the air when McCain spoke after Obama! The joke is on you, Olby! Olbermann made fun of Hillary for referring to this skit, pointing out that it is only comedy. What makes it so funny, though, is that it is rooted in reality. Keith knows this, that's why he tried to dismiss it. He was sitting right next to Chris Matthews when he described the feeling he gets up his leg when Obama speaks!

Yeah, what a surprise that SNL parodied CNN since they are an NBC product. I guess even the SNL cast is too cowardly to take on their own despicable network. SNL has been unwatchable for many years anyway.

Oh, my son Factor, SNL may be unwatchable for years to you, but in my cave I am years behind you in TV, and I just saw a wonderful skit with the actor known as Bill Murray, doing a parady on the drowning death of a secretary at the hands of one of my most loyal subjects, Ted Kennedy!

The laughter I got from seeing this Murray character covered in seaweed, while addressing the nation had me falling off my rock!

What brought me even more joy, was the thought that this man known as Ted Kennedy, not only survived in his political career by killing this women (or at the very LEAST disregarded her like some camel dung that was stuck to his sandel's), but is one of America's most notable senator's!

Yes, to see Murray spitting out sea water while giving his speech, and then observing the career of my little cell Ted skyrocket gives me hope that a democratic victory will only further my cause!

That and the fact that this murderer(not that there's anything wrong with that) has also endorsed my newest cell Obama, has me walking on air!

Allah is kind and wonderful!

Akuba!!! Ayeee!!!!

It was understood tht the snl skit was taking jabs at all tv folk who worship Obama, that's why KO didn't laugh. Since all the very young, college set seem to love Obama, maybe KO is doing the kiss up to please the little girl he lives with

If cable networks were animals and ratings were food, Fox would be a strong and capable lion feeding at will, CNN would be a despicable but clever Hyena stealing food from the lions though deception and trickery, and MSLSD would be the vulture, content to feed on the Hyena's decaying leftovers.

posted by kfk

A superior analogy!

"If it is so bad, then why do you to visit this site asshole????"

You answered your own question. ROTFLMMFAOTID

"If the Countdown is so bad, why do you watch that? This website is a joke. And yeah, it was accident coming here. Enjoy the next 8 years of progressive liberal rule! HAHA Suckers, you messed it up, time for us to take it back! Good luck in the general election, you'll have plenty to complain about anyway."

Writ Feb. 25, 9:55

If OlbyWatch is a joke why are you here?

I'm sure you have lots of accidents in your drawers every day.

You left wing nut jobs said you were a lock in 2000 abd '04 so what happened. McCain has not been getting any coverage. Just wait till we start Swift Boating Barak. The photo of the turnik is a good start. Thanks Hillary. I'm sure a few photos of Barak kneeled down on a prayer rug will surface.

There will be millions of rednechs who have never voted in their lives crawl down out of their deer stands, off the pole seat on the front of their bass boats, walk out behind their spotted pointer, hop donw off that tractor, pull theri head out from under the hood of the car they are working on and vote for McCain.

If you think America is going to elect a black with a Muslim name and zero record to run on you are stupid.

"If cable networks were animals and ratings were food, Fox would be a strong and capable lion feeding at will, CNN would be a despicable but clever Hyena stealing food from the lions though deception and trickery, and MSLSD would be the vulture, content to feed on the Hyena's decaying leftovers.

posted by kfk"

I would consider CNN the vultures and MSLSD maggots. That's the type person they appeal.

"My anti-Fox News rant while on Fox News "

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/25/155159/156/906/463873

Unbelievable. The only ones who are more crude and rude than the diarist are his commenters.

" by: Lee Camp

Mon Feb 25, 2008 at 01:03:25 PM PST
This past Saturday I was invited on Fox News to tell 30 seconds of Huckabee jokes. I figured my time on live TV would be better spent letting the Fox News viewership know that their favorite channel is a festering pile of propaganda. Here's the clip."

.............

" Apparently when they came back from commercial, the anchor pretended as if he had thrown me out of the building, but I never saw that part of the clip. "

Grammie

I was watching last night (not sure why) and to see KO sitting there with that man Rachel Maddow talking about how the republicans are talking about how far they can go in making this campaign racist had to be one of the most disgusting conversations ever on a news show (ha). How can NBC allow this to take place, they need to get this peice of garbage off the air asap. It;s ok to have a show knocking the right all they want but when yo have two so called news personalitys talking such lies and crap it becomes nothing mroe then that rag paper the weeakly world news, you can get at the grocery store check out line. If they are going to have that discussion et least have some one from the right there to defend them selves. The bottom line on the whole conversation is that the Democrats have shown there true racist colors though out this campaign, they are the ones sending photos of Obama dressed like a terrorist, telling people he used drugs, and Bill Clinton comparing Obamas camopaign to Jessie Jackson.

Grammie, Fox News has no one to blame but themselves for allowing this flame throwing Lib dunce from Kos on their air.
Having said that, It is refreshing to see dissimilar viewpoints on live cable news. Olby and MSNBC never allows that to happen.

If the Countdown is so bad, why do you watch that? This website is a joke. And yeah, it was accident coming here. Enjoy the next 8 years of progressive liberal rule! HAHA Suckers, you messed it up, time for us to take it back! Good luck in the general election, you'll have plenty to complain about anyway.

Long live KO!!!
Posted by: at February 25, 2008 9:55 PM

I have the feeling that if you're disposed to terming it "progressive liberal RULE" (my caps) without being the least bit ironic, you're certainly not disposed to sweetness and light... :D

It seems Obamessiah has some dirty links in his past as well....the change candidate, who is just as connected to the coroprate power structure as any politician, now seems to have connections to big time, international crooks......Obamessiah is showing he does have foreign policy experience!.....

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3433485.ece?token=null&offset=0

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Drip, drip drip....at least HRC was vetted and prepared to challenge the old attacks.

Hello, Ralph Nader!

I caught the first 15 minutes of "Meltdown" last night and saw that Olbermann has pretty much rolled the bus over Hillary. Seeing as how this could be the first brokered convention since 1952, Hillary basically still has a shot, and anything could happen to make Obamessiah stumble. If she does get through to being the nominee, I can see some goons bursting onto "Meltdown" and throwing a black bag over the Orange Oracle's head, never to be heard from again, similar to a scene from the Movie "V for Vendetta". I'd normally be against that kind of fascist move, but it would do America a great service to have the number one domestic Islamo-fascist removed permanently.

David Shuster and Wolffeman annoy
With that woman that looks like a boy
It's Kountdown's "A" Team
Like a left-wing pipe dream
Only a moonbat could enjoy

That picture of Obama was him trying on his inauguration outfit.

Oh yes.....the Iraq War which is EVIL, WRONG and MUST BE STOPPED is now really only an economic issue for the left....

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1717260,00.html?xid=feed-rss-netzero

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Perfect! Polling on America's economic insecurities has revealed another fear factor that can be manipulated to attain political power. So, the war in Iraq has not only made us unsafe but is making us poor as well!

What a positive message the left has in store for the American people!

A British-Iraqi billionaire lent millions of dollars to Barack Obama's fundraiser just weeks before an imprudent land deal that has returned to haunt the presidential contender, an investigation by The Times discloses.

The money transfer raises the question of whether funds from Nadhmi Auchi, one of Britain’s wealthiest men, helped Mr Obama buy his mock Georgian mansion in Chicago.

A company related to Mr Auchi, who has a conviction for corruption in France, registered the loan to Mr Obama's bagman Antoin "Tony" Rezko on May 23 2005. Mr Auchi says the loan, through the Panamanian company Fintrade Services SA, was for $3.5 million.

Three weeks later, Mr Obama bought a house on the city's South Side while Mr Rezko's wife bought the garden plot next door from the same seller on the same day, June 15.

Let's remember, 11:22AM, Obamessiah is CHANGE! Don't pay attention to the big money interests, the international billionaire or the usual suspects of influence from the left behind the curtains.

The house of cards of change and inspiration will be very easy destroyed and the candidate will finally have to make the argument that he is qualified to handle the hardest job in the world.

once again, i feel the need to point out that Obama stole his campaign motto "Yes We Can" from Bob the Builder children's show

UH OH...Keith-y is getting some heat from the huffpo's about ripping Jon Stewart and his Oscars jokes...item # 1 on his hit parade last night (J$made breif mention above)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/26/olbermann-what-was-jon-_n_88462.html

MSNBC serves political news with a side of opinion By Matea Gold, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
February 26, 2008

"...Olbermann, a former ESPN sportscaster, said it is "nonsensical" that "either you are a color guy or a play-by-play guy." But he admitted that the format presents some "real head-scratchers. . . . Some of it is subtle, like can I do a special comment on Monday and anchor primary coverage on Tuesday?""

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/tv/la-et-msnbc26feb26,1,4761432.story

Olbermann wants life chronicled on True Hollywood Story (Spoof):

"...Olbermann addressed the topic on his latest blog posting on MSNBC.com, writing, “I feel I would be doing the human race a huge injustice if I didn’t at least make an effort to show the world how witty and, at the same time, undeniably sexy I have been for nearly a half century now."

http://www.serioussportsnewsnetwork.com/2008/02/olbermann-wants-life-chronicled-on-true-hollywood-story.html

Out of Favor? By SETH GITELL February 26, 2008

"...There is some merit to the claims that the press is not giving Mrs. Clinton a fair shake. There also is no doubt that some in the pundit class, particularly Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann of MSNBC, appear gleeful at the success of her opponent..."

http://www.nysun.com/article/71866?page_no=1

The house of cards of change and inspiration will be very easy destroyed and the candidate will finally have to make the argument that he is qualified to handle the hardest job in the world.

Posted by: cee at February 26, 2008 11:32 AM

McCain has not BEGUN on obama. Nor has the media.

The house of cards of change and inspiration will be very easy destroyed and the candidate will finally have to make the argument that he is qualified to handle the hardest job in the world. Posted by: cee at February 26, 2008 11:32 AM

McCain has not BEGUN on obama. Nor has the media. Posted by: olby sucks at February 26, 2008 12:49 PM

Maybe there's nothing there "there" to be "destroyed" of Obama. Trust me, they'll dig deeper and fing the full sex scandal on McCain, at the very least they are finding the shady Lobbyist connections.

And as for McCain beating Obama with the "experience" cannard, ask Hillary how that worked out for her....

The Newshole comments have been really down lately. Maybe uber fangirl(s) "Pam Bignardi" and "Anna Molly" went on vacation together...or hopefully they were finally banned to "bullying" the discussion...

http://thenewshole.msnbc.msn.com/

"And as for McCain beating Obama with the "experience" cannard, ask Hillary how that worked out for her...."

Posted by: Anyone but Hillary at February 26, 2008 1:04 PM

That's because any sane person knows the only "experience" Hillary has consists of looking the other way while Bill was doing the horizontal bop with whoever happened to be the flavor of the month.

Posted by: Anyone but Hillary at February 26, 2008 1:04 PM

May I direct you to the
Posted by: boneheaded obama at February 26, 2008 11:22 AM

post above. Peachy keen? Okie dokie? All good?

McCain says the only way to win is if he plays the fear card. Don't you think the American people are tired of fear?

McCain says the only way to win is if he plays the fear card.

?

Please provide an example of Senator McCain playing the "fear" card. I can give you many examples of the left using fear and loathing to advance their political agenda, so I would really like to see your examples.

Oh boy...along with the food fight and fall of Clinton Co. on the left I get good news about Keith Olbermann:

February Ratings: Second Place at 8pmET Back Up For Grabs

"Countdown with Keith Olbermann on MSNBC finished third in both total viewers and the A25-54 demo during February, thanks to a strong showing from CNN's election-themed programming.

"CNN's Election Center, their new 8pmET placeholder until Campbell Brown settles in, edged Countdown for the month of February, excluding the days when special programming was airing, such as debates and primary coverage. First place was easily wrapped up by The O'Reilly Factor on FNC.

"Total viewers: O'Reilly Factor — 2,708,000, Election Center — 1,123,000, Countdown — 1,025,000

"A25-54 demo: O'Reilly Factor — 551,000, Election Center — 392,000, Countdown — 386,000"

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/february_ratings_second_place_at_8pmet_back_up_for_grabs_78386.asp

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Well, well....Olbermann is losing ground in the ratings despite his occasional rants.

CEE-

Olby is getting trashed by some of his old fans...see this Huffpo article's comments:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/26/olbermann-what-was-jon-_n_88462.html

Cee, I should have know better. "Fear-mongering" was a little too specific a concept for y'all here. What McCain is saying (then immediately retracting) is that if he doesn't convince the American people how needed and important the Iraq war is(aka "winning"), he'll lose. Here is the link via Drudge:

McCain Says He Could Lose Over War Issue
Feb 25, 5:50 PM (ET) By LIZ SIDOTI

"While most Republicans still back the war, many independents and Democrats don't. That presents a significant challenge for McCain and an opportunity for either Barack Obama or Hillary Rodham Clinton.

McCain acknowledged the war will be "a significant factor in how the American people judge my candidacy.""

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080225/D8V1KDH84.html

"Yes, we can!" is the translation of "Si, se puede." Which was the rallying cry of the United Farm Workers led by Cesar Chavez in 1972. It was also used in a Disney flick from 2002 titled "Gotta Kick It Up."
So Obama is either trying to pull more of the Hispanic vote or he is just a big fan of teen girl cheerleading flicks.

How is wanting to attain the military and political strategic goal of a stable Iraq fear mongering?

Obama has been clear...he will withdraw US troops from Iraq, no matter the conditions, over the first 16 months of his administration. That plan does not discuss a goal other than getting the troops out which may result is either instability or not.....

The issue of judgement based on the military and political gains that have been made over the past year despite no rhetorical support from the left is a valid issue. Obama and others in the left's ruling class stated it would fail....it has not failed and actually real progress has been shown. That debate will need to take place and that is what Senator McCain is talking about.

The war is a major issue, but when rationally debated between two people, I believe the American people will see one pandering to their worst fears (Iraq is lost and causing us to be less safe, less economically viable and hated by the rest of the world) and the other to the best in American's hearts (Iraq's struggle for freedom is valid and needs our support to come to fruition...an honorable mission).

The latter coming from a POW who struggled for another cause that was eventually abandoned by America under the leadership and promting of the left will be a tough case to rebutt.

I am hopeful that America is still the shining beacon of freedom for the world and not ready to abandon Iraq to radical islamists who committed such atrocities like 9/11....handing them a victory.

He's going to move them back into Afganistan and probably real close to the Pakistan borders, where they should have been all along. And you know dam well, if there is "real" instatbility, Obama will unable to take all the troops out of Iraw. Cee, this clusterf*ck created by this Administration is going down in flames come November, unless Hillary sides with McCain (behind closed doors) so that she can take over in 2012.

It truly is too bad that the 9/11 attacks were not focused on the Newscorp building... killing Rupert and Ailes would be the best death since Hitler offed himself.

It truly is too bad that the 9/11 attacks were not focused on the Newscorp building... killing Rupert and Ailes would be the best death since Hitler offed himself.

Posted by: Bill O'lielly at February 26, 2008 5:25 PM

Maybe your heroes will do better next time, O'Diely...

HotAir has a funny take on Olbermann slamming Jon Stewart:

"This is like watching wrestling as a kid, when the bad-guy tag team would have some sort of contrived falling out in the middle of the match and end up swinging at each other. Every kid watching felt the same panic as the natural order of things was momentarily upended: Who do I root for? "

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/26/video-olby-assured-that-its-okay-for-jon-stewart-to-crack-jokes-about-obamas-name/

Newsbusters take as well:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-sheffield/2008/02/26/crap-slinging-olbermann-whines-jon-stewart-wrong-make-obama-osama

Olbermann is just a hack for the Jihad. He takes orders from the Saudis and Iranians and just repeats whatever CAIR tells him.

A friend of mine who works at NBC told me that there is talk of sending Olbermoron to visit Iraq on a morale tour, kind of what O'Reilly did in Afghanistan. I can't believe that any service member would be interested in shaking hands with Bathtub Boy, who has been so non-supportive of the troops. I mean he wants them to lose the war for God's sake.

(Former) Olbypal Jim Vandehei is on The Factor now. LOL. Jim must have gotten tired of wasting time promoting Politico on a network that no one watches.

What are the chances that Olby will get on a plane bound for Iraq? Very slim to none. Even if MSDNC planned a trip, Olbermanijad would weasel out of it before the departure date. Olby will hide under his desk and mumble.

Every time I read my own name I chuckle and crap my pants.

My God. Are you guys watching Keith Olbermann right now? Tonight's episode is just so over the top with hypocrisy, lies, and distortions, it's unbelievable. Johnny Dollar or whoever does tonights recap will have A LOT of material to work with.

> Olby is getting trashed by some of his old fans...see this Huffpo article's comments

He will need to post a new diary at Daily Kos just to feel some love. Either that or write fawning emails to himself. Those Newshole comments have been sparse lately too, which looks like they're only posting positive ones with a token negative one here and there.

"A friend of mine who works at NBC told me that there is talk of sending Olbermoron to visit Iraq on a morale tour, kind of what O'Reilly did in Afghanistan."

I would pay to see that but I doubt he'll go to Iraq. He looks like he doesn't have the stamina to do it. How would they outfit him with a bulletproof vest. No, I'm not being a smart ass about that. He appears as if a trip would physically be too much for him.

Posted by: at February 26, 2008 5:41 PM

Funny that Olbermann's little nerd friend says that Ann Coulter is not a good comedian. She doesn't have a team of writers or a laughing stage hand to back her up and she is still smarter and funnier than Stewart and Olbermann on their best day. If Olbermann and Patton Nobody want a good joke, they can look down next time they take a leak. It always gives Katy a good chuckle.

obama is on his blackberry right now apologising to his pal louie.

Here we go again. A bunch of Fox News nut jobs attacking Keith again. It gets pretty fucking old. Why don’t you people grow up. The adults are in charge now.

Here we go again. A bunch of Fox News nut jobs attacking Keith again. It gets pretty fucking old. Why don’t you people grow up. The adults are in charge now.

cee,

You said: “McCain says the only way to win is if he plays the fear card.

?

Please provide an example of Senator McCain playing the "fear" card. I can give you many examples of the left using fear and loathing to advance their political agenda, so I would really like to see your examples.”

McCain played the fear card by suggesting that we should not negotiate without pre-conditions and that we should be afraid of what the terrorists may still do, that they are organized and zealous and will stop at nothing to harm us in any way possible.

You fucking flying monkey fear mongers.

NOBODY,

But you fear to post your name. What a dingbat you are!

Cee @ 4:35 PM: "I am hopeful that America is still the shining beacon of freedom for the world and not ready to abandon Iraq to radical islamists who commited such attrocities like 9/11.....handing them a victory."

But you keep forgetting that nobody in Iraq had anything to do with that attrocity.

Facts are SUCH an inconvenience for you, aren't they Cee?

McCain played the fear card by suggesting that we should not negotiate without pre-conditions and that we should be afraid of what the terrorists may still do, that they are organized and zealous and will stop at nothing to harm us in any way possible.

You fucking flying monkey fear mongers.

Posted by: at February 27, 2008 12:32 AM

Oh, that's brilliant, Einstein.

Now when a candidate articulates an idea about national policy in dealing with terrorists, it's tantamount to fomenting "fear".

Cee @ 4:35 PM: "I am hopeful that America is still the shining beacon of freedom for the world and not ready to abandon Iraq to radical islamists who commited such attrocities like 9/11.....handing them a victory."

But you keep forgetting that nobody in Iraq had anything to do with that attrocity.

Facts are SUCH an inconvenience for you, aren't they Cee?

Posted by: Mike at February 27, 2008 12:36 AM

So what "fact" is there about there being no jihadists in Iraq now?

"So what "fact" is there about there being no jihadists in Iraq now?"

Certainly none that attacked us on 911.

If we were to invade Cuba, I can bet you a dollar to a donut some jihadists will show up there as ell.

So what "fact" is there about there being no jihadists in Iraq now?"

Certainly none that attacked us on 911.

If we were to invade Cuba, I can bet you a dollar to a donut some jihadists will show up there as ell.

Posted by: Mike at February 27, 2008 12:47 AM

Neither point is germane to Cee's statement to which you responded with an insult.

that they are organized and zealous and will stop at nothing to harm us in any way possible.

You fucking flying monkey fear mongers.

Posted by: at February 27, 2008 12:32 AM

So, facts equate to 'fear mongering' to you, cowy? FACTS are such an inconvenience to you, aren't they, cowy?

Mike,

How come no jihadists showed up in Vietnam when we attacked there?

"Neither point is germane to Cee's statement which you responded ith an insult."

I'm beginning to understand you a little better.....Strong disagreement = "insult".....if it differs from your own ideology.

Cee can "insult" his ideological opponents day in and day out without a peep from you, but the minute I suggest he is ignoring inconvenient facts while fostering misinformation....I've 'insulted' him.

"How come no jihadists showed up in Vietnam when we attacked there?"

Duh...................!

Neither point is germane to Cee's statement which you responded ith an insult."

I'm beginning to understand you a little better.....Strong disagreement = "insult".....if it differs from your own ideology.

Cee can "insult" his ideological opponents day in and day out without a peep from you, but the minute I suggest he is ignoring inconvenient facts while fostering misinformation....I've 'insulted' him.

Posted by: Mike at February 27, 2008 1:46 AM

Yes, it's always someone else's fault when you mess up, moron.

Yes, YOU insulted him. YOU read something into his post which he did not say, and then YOU insulted him, because it differed with YOUR ideology.

BTW-- Cee's post was not addressed to YOU but to someone else of YOUR ideology who had insulted HIM by saying that the concept of "fear-mongering" was over his head.

"Yes, it's always someone else's fault when you mess up, moron."

But I didn't mess up.....he stated a fallacy on a PUBLIC blog, and I called him on it.

As for "moron".....It's always so funny how you eventually turn to third grade level insults whenever you lose an argument.

As for "moron".....It's always so funny how you eventually turn to third grade level insults whenever you lose an argument.

Posted by: Mike at February 27, 2008 2:11 AM

And we have our daily dose..........

"How come no jihadists showed up in Vietnam when we attacked there?"

Duh...................!

Posted by: Mike at February 27, 2008 1:48 AM

Olbyloon debating tactic 101. Duck and run!

Yes, it's always someone else's fault when you mess up, moron."

But I didn't mess up.....he stated a fallacy on a PUBLIC blog, and I called him on it.

As for "moron".....It's always so funny how you eventually turn to third grade level insults whenever you lose an argument.

Posted by: Mike at February 27, 2008 2:11 AM

It's always so unfunny, when you launch into some refrain about being treated unfairly when you're held accountable for your actions and remarks. Just as you have been now when shown that you were insultingly condescending to Cee for no reason.

You messed up indeed. You read something into Cee's comment that he never stated.

Keith's masters at Daily Kos have given their puppet some more love today:

Post-Debate Open Thread #4
by Scout Finch
Tue Feb 26, 2008 at 08:11:32 PM PST

Dear MSNBC ----- Judging by the comments in our debate threads tonight, it seems that we crushed your site. Knowing that you have a lot of viewers from this website, let me take this moment to make a plea:

Less Matthews. Less Russert. MORE OLBERMANN.

Sincerely,

Your audience

[Editors Note: Last call on the debate threads.]

* Permalink ::
* Discuss (460 comments)

Mike, some people live on the net. You live on Olbywatch. You must have one wonderfull personal life.

Funny you whine about being called a moron when you liberally fling the word yourself as well as stupid, idiot.....................

I am ( )

My personal bias and hatred aside, Keith Olbermann is one of the goofiest looking people on TV today and in the past. This boy would make a chimp die from laughter. He needs to be put in a cage for public display. If you put Obly in cage at a zoo and a chimp next to him the chimp would starve to death because everyone would be throwing peanuts at Olby.

The ideology of participants in "Al Queda in Iraq" as well as those who support Hezbollah in funds and weapons, as well as those who use the identical terrorist tactics in the insurgency is the same poison that lead to 9/11, Mike, and my statement is accurate....

The problem with your view is that you see it so simplistically: the specific 9/11 people only deserve our vigilance and pursuit.....No......The threats that are present and based on the same hateful ideology are just as dangerous, (a WMD seeking Saddam Hussein WAS an example....thanks for taking care of that tyrant W!), and should be met with force if all other avenues have failed....I would say 12 years of failed policy and an international community believing, based on the overwhelming intelligence and his actions, constitutes pursuing other avenues.....removing, by force after MONTHS of warning and forth, fifth chances to change, Saddam Hussein was morally and strategically correct and the SUCCESS of the replacement of this tyrant is the most important foreign policy challenge we face now.......

Obama simply wants to abandon the Iraqi people.....

Clinton....likely the same but who knows?

McCain....wants to treat Iraq like our other democratic allies Japan, Germany, South Korea......successful democracies and strong allies......honor AND forward thinking...not pandering to people's fears and prejudices.

THAT is what my statement meant, Mike....Your simplistic retort only shows the vapid nature of the left's anti-American stand. Present political advantage verses future security and honor....I know what my choice is.

Mike,

But why would they show up in Cuba if they didn't in Vietnam? I'm really asking.

There's something funny about a blog criticizing the partisanship of an admittedly liberal special investigation reporter, and their use of name-flogging and photoshop. I believe there's a lot to be said about your lack of genuine defense against the reports he has made. You might not like what he reports about, but if you haven't got conflicting evidence, your photoshopping and namecalling is falling on the already tuned-out eyes of an angry toddler userbase.

But you keep forgetting that nobody in Iraq had anything to do with that attrocity.

Facts are SUCH an inconvenience for you, aren't they Cee?

Posted by: Mike at February 27, 2008 12:36 AM

Nobody in Germany attacked us during Pearl Harbor either Mike. What is your point? You don't have one. Who attacked in Serbia attacked us Mike when your boy Bill Clinton bombed them?

Brandon St. Germaine-
"a blog criticizing the partisanship of an admittedly liberal special investigation reporter"

I cannot tell you the number of times it has been pointed out that KO has stated he is impartial, objective, journalist and that this is a news show...this blog exists for the very fact to point out that he is a liberal opinion commentator...exactly equal to those he constantly browbeats (O'Reilly, Rush, Hannity)

"liberal special investigation reporter"
Brandon St. Germaine

What exactly does Olbermann investigate besides the latest rumor about Brittany Spears? Olbermann investigates nothing. Olbermann simply attacks and smears people he doesn't like or that he disagrees with. What value does "investigating" the latest statement made by Bill O'Reilly? Olbermann is a talking point machine. That is it. For information purposes, Olbermann is utterly useless.

Now now Factor...KO has to spend like minutes a day going to the blueblog sources like kos (for nothing else than to write in his little diary there), mediamatters, moveon, et al...thus he is investigative

No name @ 8:03 AM:

"Some people live on the net, you live on Olby Watch. You must have one wonderful personal life."

First off that is an outright LIE. If you go back just the last 60 days you ill find that I have been completely absent from this blog for weeks at a time.

Second off, you can't get any more hypocritical than to claim someone 'lives' on a blog when you could not possibly make such an interpretation honestly if you did not 'live' on that same blog yourself.

Third, you seem to be typical of some many on this blog who love using ad hominem attacks in place of honest debate. As long as I continue to encounter tactics like yours on a regular basis, I remain confident that my worldvie is far superior to yours.
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No name once again in the same post:

"Funny you whine about being called a moron hen you liberally fling the word yourself. as ell as stupid, idiot.........."

There you go again with ANOTHER outright lie. Show me here I've called anyone a moron on this blog in the last six months. And while I admit that I may have used the word stupid, it was in reference to someone's argument or in response to someone else doing the same....Implying someone's arguments are stupid is far different than calling the person themself stupid....and if you don't understand that, then I pity any attempt you have made at forming personal relationships in your life...OR any person forced to endure your insulence.
You are also WRONG that I was 'whining' about being called a moron. If you read my response again, it will be apparent that I was chastising someone else for resorting to name calling when they couldn't back up their argument with logic.....On the other hand, if you really can't see that, it would kind of make you look exactly like what you called me.

Last night Bathtub Boy referred to some Republicans as "political shills." That's like the big fat orange pot calling the kettle black.

Rico: "why would they show up in Cuba in they didn't in Vietnam. I'm really asking."

I know you are Rico, and the fact that you would SERIOUSLY ask a question like that is what is so sad about you.

Mike,

But why would they show up in Cuba if they didn't in Vietnam? I'm really asking.

I know you are Rico, and the fact that you would SERIOUSLY ask a question like that is what is so sad about you.

Posted by: Mike at February 27, 2008 12:47 PM

Translation: can't back his spew.

There you go again with ANOTHER outright lie. Show me here I've called anyone a moron on this blog in the last six months.

posted by mike

Time doesn't wipe away the fact you are a humongous hypocrite. Nice try. Think before you post, please.

Cecelia @ 3:23 AM:

"You messed up indeed. You read something into Cee's comment that he never stated."

I misread nothing. He stated what he stated in plain English and has done so many, many, many times in the past as well. The fact that you say that tends to indite your own lack of understanding of the words of others, .... of course, that understanding varies greatly depending on whether you happen to agree with their ideology or not.
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And here we have Cecelia again in the same post:

"It's always so unfunny, when you launch into a refrain for being held accountable for your actions and remarks."

There are SO many ways to refute that bit of misrepresentation that I hardly know where to begin:

1) - Instead of rationally addressing my argument argument questioning how I could POSSIBLY "mistreat" someone who CONSTANTLY attacks the patriotism and Americanism of anyone who disagrees with him, you decided to call me a "moron".

2) - You have the arrogance to suggest that you could 'hold me accountable' for anything, when you simply don't have that kind of power. You have only opinions...just like me.

3) - I didn't launch into any "refrain"....I pointed out why Cee's arguments (and yours) were baseless in two simple sentences.

4) - I'm not trying to be 'funny'. Trust me, I'm actually pretty good at that if I want to be, but this is hardly the time or the place.

5) - You used the words "treated unfairly" above as if you honestly believe that I give a hang about what you think about me or my positions. I am not on this blog to be "treated" either fairly - OR - unfairly, or to be liked. I am here to exchange ideas...but unfortunately, ad hominem seems to be the weapon of choice for most bloggers who reside here, including you....but I don't mind, it just makes the attacker look worse than the attacked.

Another example of one of "Olby Sucks" turrets like responses: "Think before you post please"

Translation: "I cannot refute the argument at hand using logic or reasoning, so I will post something simple, repetitive, and condescending instead."

Time doesn't wipe away the fact you are a humongous hypocrite.

"Time doesn't wipe away the fact that you are a humongoud hypocrite."

Nor does it wipe away the fact that you are a much bigger one who never debates.....just someone who baits and name calls in the place of adult rational discussions.

Nor does it wipe away the fact that you are a much bigger one

posted by mike

Finally, you have made step 1 of the 12 step program. For that I compliment you. Now, on to step 2. For the record, you have never posted one shred of evidence of me being a hypocrite.

He needs to be put in a cage for public display. If you put Obly in cage at a zoo and a chimp next to him the chimp would starve to death because everyone would be throwing peanuts at Olby. Posted by: ( ) at February 27, 2008 8:06 AM

...it's the weight gain that I find scary....the guy is a heart attack away from making Katy a widow. Judge for yourself, here are some links from the chick blog ERT:

thinner KO (2006):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibqU24jfT3k&feature=related

FATTER KO (2008):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9M5lY5KR44&feature=related

You mean obama is closely knit with the richest man in the world? Who just so happens to be an Iraqi? More to come....

Olby Sucks: "Finally, you have made step 1 of the 12 step program."

Yet another example of your hypocrtical arrogance in presuming to be the wise one trying to educate the delluded one.....when in fact, the opposite is true.

YOU have absolutely NOTHING to teach me....except how to be an effective internet troll whose sole mission in life is to irritate those whom he disagrees with.

&

"you have never posted one shred of evidence of me being a hypocrite."

You've posted plenty of that yourself.

You've posted plenty of that yourself.

Posted by: Mike at February 27, 2008 1:50 PM

If it was there you would have pointed it out. Hence......nice diversion. A+!

"you have never posted one shred of evidence of me being a hypocrite."

Actually he has done it a ton of times. You either ignore it or too stupid to realize it. For example there was the time you smeared Mike admitted you smeared Mike then bitched about Olbermann's smears. That is hypocrisy.

You probably just didn't realize what hypocrisy means. I would suggest dictionary.com as place to remedy this.

Also a diversion is switching to another topic. When you bring up hypocrisy, and mike responds on the subject of hypocrisy by calling you a hypocrite he is not diverting. Diverting would be talking about what a failure Bush is, for example instead of your hypocrisy. F-

for you You will never get that GED if continue down this road RK.

How exactly is olby sucks the troll Mike? You are the one who comes to this blog to try and distract from Olbermann's distortions and lies. I don't think olby sucks is trying to educate you Mike. That is a lost cause. Making light of your holier than thou attitude is much easier.

Actually he has done it a ton of times. You either ignore it or too stupid to realize it. For example there was the time you smeared Mike admitted you smeared Mike then bitched about Olbermann's smears. That is hypocrisy.

posted by cowy

What I admitted to was using the orange faced hack, your hero's own tactic on mike. Got a problem with that? If so, you are the hypocrite. Understand?

cowy, your buckets of water you are packin around for mike have big leaks in them. I suggest you make an attempt at patching them. Just some friendly advice.

A troll is not one who simply disagrees, a troll is one who insults for no other purpose but to flame. Olby sucks, the dumbest person on this board (see that is an attack, I am a troll) never, ever engages in an honest intellectual argument.

he never takes a persons argument and picks it apart looking for fallacies or incorrect data or anything of the kind. He insults, and that makes him a troll.

Mike on the other hand, disagrees with you he disagrees with passion, but he doesn't insult you. I do that.

So RK and I are trolls. I'm just the far clever troll that's all.

"What I admitted to was using the orange faced hack, your hero's own tactic on mike. Got a problem with that? If so, you are the hypocrite. Understand?"

No little moron, I don't because that does not fall within the definition of hypocris. Again, see dictionar.com if you are having trouble with this.

A hypocrite is someone who uses the same tactic they accuse others of,
by admitting you use the same tactic on Mike that olb uses, you have admitted you are a hypocrite. thanks for admitting what you are.

"cowy, your buckets of water you are packin around for mike have big leaks in them. I suggest you make an attempt at patching them. Just some friendly advice."

Why would take the advice of an idiot? Perhaps ou could offer up some of those leaks? Nope I thought not.

I would say thanks for admitting you are a hack and an olbyloon, but, we already knew that. Old news.

3) - I didn't launch into any "refrain"....I pointed out why Cee's arguments (and yours) were baseless in two simple sentences.

4) - I'm not trying to be 'funny'. Trust me, I'm actually pretty good at that if I want to be, but this is hardly the time or the place.

5) - You used the words "treated unfairly" above as if you honestly believe that I give a hang about what you think about me or my positions. I am not on this blog to be "treated" either fairly - OR - unfairly, or to be liked. I am here to exchange ideas...but unfortunately, ad hominem seems to be the weapon of choice for most bloggers who reside here, including you....but I don't mind, it just makes the attacker look worse than the attacked.

Posted by: Mike at February 27, 2008 1:13 PM

Five points in defending yourself, huh? Well, I'll set you straight in two...

1. You misread Cee statement, implied that he had claimed that 9/11 had been caused by jhadists in Iraq and then condescendingly insulting him by saying he intentionally ignored facts. (Now you're defending THAT by falsely accusing him of having made that same "argument"/claim in the past as well.)

2. You then launched into a "he insults people too.." whine, when gigged for misreading and misrepresenting Cee's post.

No, Mike, whining that you've been singled out because of your ideology, hardly counts as an "argument", let alone a winning one, as you've characterized it. That true as well for your suggestion that you bested Cee in argument, when all you did was misread his post and throw out a cheap shot.)

Perhaps ou could offer up some of those leaks? Nope I thought not.

Posted by:new gal at February 27, 2008 2:51 PM

Actually I have done it a ton of times. You either ignore it or too stupid to realize it.

"Actually I have done it a ton of times. You either ignore it or too stupid to realize it"

I've never seen it. You on the other have certainly seen the evidence against you and even admit to it. F- again.

Luckily for RK he has become desensitized to an F. He just got so many growing up.

Perhaps ou could offer up some of those leaks? Nope I thought not.

Posted by:new gal at February 27, 2008 2:51 PM

I've never seen it. You on the other have certainly seen the evidence against you and even admit to it.

"What I admitted to was using the orange faced hack, your hero's own tactic on mike. Got a problem with that? If so, you are the hypocrite. Understand?"

I guess when president Bush asked "is your children learning" He was talking about RK.
Looks like he admitted to being a hypocrite without being smart enough to realize it. Luckily for RK he is comfortable being an idiot.

The perfect diversion, another A+, teach!

Uhh, actually it wasn't a diversion. are you ever going to visit dicitonary.com? this is how you flunked out of high school the first time. Luckily for you horses don't require a proper education.

"Bush"the most common olbyloon diversion, new gal. On to bigger and better:

Barack Obama’s Proven Lack of Character
We will make this simple so Obamamaniacs can understand it.
(1) You cannot appear at a tribute to Michael Vick one day and the SPCA the next day, and expect anyone to believe that you really share the SPCA’s views on animal abuse including dog fighting.
(2) You cannot appear at the Ku Klux Klan one day and the NAACP the next, and expect anyone to believe that you are really for civil rights.
(3) You cannot passively accept the support of the Stormfront.org White Nationalist Community (as Ron Paul is doing) while saying you oppose racism and bigotry, and have anyone with any intelligence whatsoever believe you.
(4) You cannot appear at Al Sharpton’s National Action Network one day and AIPAC the next, and expect anyone to believe that you have any use for Jews.

We don't get his show because he's not on News 10 and we don't have satalite here but we use to when we were in FL so I started checking here to get all the poop on him and I like this sight. It isn't to hard to read since theres not that many posters and almost every one believes the same thing. It makes it easy and not so much bicering. I don't miss Olberman but I sure miss Morning Joe Scarborough sense we don't get it. He was my congress.

Swept under the carpet:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. military says it has "convincing and irrefutable" evidence that an award-winning Associated Press photographer is connected to the insurgency in Iraq.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/11/19/photographer.detained/index.html

Swept under the carpet:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. military says it has "convincing and irrefutable" evidence that an award-winning Associated Press photographer is connected to the insurgency in Iraq.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/11/19/photographer.detained/index.html
Posted by: olby sucks at February 27, 2008 4:22 PM

Is it the same AP guy that has had all those allegations against him about staging photos in Iraq and the Palestinian territory?

There once was a man named McCain

Who had the whole White House to gain,

But he was quite a hobbyist

Of boning his lobbyists,

So much for his ’08 campaign

I'm not sure, Cecelia. I am sure he was on the side of the enemy, which is why he won the pulitzer prize. Check out some of his neat pics. I hope they hang him. The ap is screaming that his 'civil rights' are being taken. Too bad. What about the pics of hostages that he too that were shot immediately afterwards? Did they have any "civil rights?"

http://michellemalkin.com/2006/09/18/associated-press-and-the-bilal-hussein-case-update-pentagon-strong-insurgent-ties/

This article also states he's been turned over to Iraqi police. Hopeully he will be joining shoe shine boy real soon.

AP President and CEO Tom Curley adds in a statement:

"While we are hopeful that there could be some resolution to Bilal Hussein’s long detention, we have grave concerns that his rights under the law continue to be ignored and even abused. The steps the U.S. military is now taking continue to deny Bilal his right to due process and, in turn, may deny him a chance at a fair trial. The treatment of Bilal represents a miscarriage of the very justice and rule of law that the United States is claiming to help Iraq achieve. At this point, we believe the correct recourse is the immediate release of Bilal."

On Wednesday, Obama expanded slightly that he "would always reserve the right to go in and strike al-Qaida if they were in Iraq" without detailing what kind of strike that might be — air, ground or both.

McCain said later in San Antonio: "So I guess that means that he would surrender and then go back."

Cunningham's reference to Barack "hussain" Obama is similar in tone to Olby's reference towards "Williard" Mitt Romney.

Why Does Olby mention Williard?
Why does Cunningham mention Hussain?

Looks like Keith is throwing that stone again in the glass house.

Looks like Keith is throwing that stone again in the glass house.

Posted by: Al Jazeera @ 30 Rock at February 27, 2008 8:39 PM
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I've said it before and I will say it again. Olbermahn is the biggest hypocrite on tv. With out a doubt!

This banal banter is wasteful. All of your braincells could be used so much more proficiently. Are you truly claiming Olbermann a hypocrite while continuing your name calling and highly partisan criticism? It'd be one thing were you all countering statements and providing more insightful reporting, but it is instead your personal attacks against your opposing candidates. Instead you catcall and cast pebbles of rhetoric at a news reporter representing a far greater thing than you can possibly hope to find on any other television program today.

You might find his opinions partisan, and his show a reflection of E! news (And I'll agree with you on both points), but in contrast to the strikingly biased and unsupported *lies* spread on other networks (not just fox news), Olbermann's show is a pinnacle of journalism. I would rather see him give something other than a special comment, such as a real investigative news report, but he is still a cut above the scum. Best, his comments do ring true for more than just liberals. There are certain freedoms being infringed upon by the current administration that cannot be excused by Americans, not just liberals and liberalists.

Next you'll start to tell me Bill Moyer is a bad journalist.

Next you'll start to tell me Bill Moyer is a bad journalist.

Posted by: Brandon St. Germaine at February 28, 2008 1:56 AM

Next you'll be telling us you've met him...

Are you truly claiming Olbermann a hypocrite while continuing your name calling and highly partisan criticism?

posted by german

Yes, I am.

> Instead you catcall and cast pebbles of rhetoric at a news reporter representing a far greater thing than you can possibly hope to find on any other television program today.

"Pebbles of rhetoric"? Oh I get it, a "metaphor". Hey Brandon, are you shacking up with a girl named Katy?

How lovely it must be to be as brilliant as Cecelia, but she must really have to wear a heavy neck brace to keep her big head up.

2:52, ever tried pottery? Knitting? Reading?

Cunningham's reference to Barack "hussain" Obama is similar in tone to Olby's reference towards "Williard" Mitt Romney.
Why Does Olby mention Williard?
Why does Cunningham mention Hussain?
Looks like Keith is throwing that stone again in the glass house.
Posted by: Al Jazeera @ 30 Rock at February 27, 2008 8:39 PM

Oh yeah, when I hear the name Williard, millitant muslim immediately comes to mind. Are you this stupid normally, or do you really work at it?

Oh yeah, when I hear the name Williard, millitant muslim immediately comes to mind. Are you this stupid normally, or do you really work at it?

Posted by: we found another A$$hat folks! at February 28, 2008 3:18 PM

Do you sleep with a 3' machete? Have you always been a fear monger? Why would the first thing that comes to your mind be "militant muslim?" Have you always hated muslims? Do you beat your wife, too?

Royal King: You haven't given up horsies for cars have you?

Looks like Olby's losing another fan...

The Iraqi government this morning endorsed the execution of Saddam Hussein's cousin, Ali Hassan al-Majid, also known as Chemical Ali. The death sentence must now be carried out within 30 days.

Looks like Olby's losing another fan...

The Iraqi government this morning endorsed the execution of Saddam Hussein's cousin, Ali Hassan al-Majid, also known as Chemical Ali. The death sentence must now be carried out within 30 days.

You didn't get any more clever when you changed your name this time, Royal King.

Barockstar Ed

"Memory is a motherf*cker."

That's the opening line of Bill Ayers' 2001 book, Fugitive Days, about his execrable days as a Weather Underground terrorist. Now a (gasp!) tenured education professor at the University of Illinois-Chicago, he's a campaign issue for Barack Obama.

Ayers, along with his fellow former Weather Underground terrorist wife, Bernardine Dohrn, are among the two most despicable people in living in America. And Obama served on a board with him. That will play well in rural Ohio--for John McCain.

While the Arizona senator was being tortured by his North Vietnamese captors, Ayers was openly cheering for a Communist victory over our troops.

http://marathonpundit.blogspot.com/2008/02/obamas-bill-ayers-problem.html

Part II

Friday, February 15, 2008

Obama's Chicago blues: Ayers and Rezko
Nothing new, of course, to the readers of Marathon Pundit, but this Bloomberg News report covers some of the items in Barack Obama's background that his campaign would prefer to keep hidden--Tony Rezko, of course, but also his contacts with the repugnant Bill Ayers, the former Weather Underground terrorist, and Obama's race-based Trinity United Church of Christ.

http://marathonpundit.blogspot.com/2008/02/obamas-chicago-blues-ayers-and-rezko.html

Thank you so much, Royal King. From time-to-time I think racism may be disapearing from our nation, but there is always some bigot out there to ground me. Once again, I have found my bigot.

3:10/cowy: How do you know I'm not black? Blacks can't be racists, right? Jesse Jackson is not a racist, right? Al Sharpton is not a racist, right? obama or his wife aren't racists, right? Farrakhan is not a racist, right? Sheesh...Looked in the mirror, lately?

I've never heard anything from Jesse Jackson or Mr. and Mrs. Obama that would indicate that they are racists.

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:na9HwsHG8QAJ:www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2006/jackson-report.pdf+jesse+jackson+racist&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us

One little tid bit on the Rev. Jackson. Oh, don't the Baracks attend a church solely based on race? Can you imagine McCain being associated with a church based on being white?

Trinity United Church of Christ

About Us

We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian… Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:

1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.

Revs. Jesse and Al: Shameless charlatans

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Posted: January 08, 2007
1:00 am Eastern

© 2008

Far be it from me to say, ''I told you so'' but I told you so. Back on April 21, 2006, I wrote a column titled ''Revs. Arrive, Truth Dies.'' I went out on a limb and predicted the alleged rapists from Duke University were innocent and would be proven so in a court of law. Have you read a newspaper recently?
At first I had my suspicions given the seriousness of the allegations and the setting in which they occurred. However, the moment Revs. Jackson and Sharpton arrived to stake their claim in the media circus I knew the boys were innocent. When Jackson and Sharpton show up, truth dies and rumor and innuendo take over. All so the Revs. get maximum camera time.

The Revs. demanded that someone be charged immediately. As far as the Revs. were concerned a trial wasn't necessary. The boys had to be guilty. Sharpton claimed these ''rich white boys'' attacked a ''black girl'' and if there weren't arrests immediately there would be no peace. The entire black community of Durham had been whipped into a frenzy. Town hall meetings were filled with Durham residents demanding Mike Nifong file charges against the accused.

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:na9HwsHG8QAJ:www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2006/jackson-report.pdf+jesse+jackson+racist&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us

One little tid bit on the Rev. Jackson. Oh, don't the Baracks attend a church solely based on race? Can you imagine McCain being associated with a church based on being white?

Trinity United Church of Christ

About Us

We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian… Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:

1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.

Posted by: olby sucks at March 2, 2008 2:44 PM

Well, yeah, there would be a difference if you substituted the word "white" for black, since caucasians aren't a majority, their ancestors weren't "exported" here against their will, and weren't segregated from the rest of the population as blacks were in the South.

Duh...

Different ethnic and religious groups in this country have certainly been discriminated against too in U.S. history, and in fact, you could substitute the word "Irish" or "Asian", "Mormon", .....even "Latino" ... and the above sentences wouldn't turn a hair on anyone's head.

There are some varieties of Afrocentrism that are patently racist. I don't' see anything like that in the above mission statement of Obama's church.

I disagree with you Cecelia. There are many in the media that disagree with you, as well.

"their ancestors weren't "exported" here against their will, and weren't segregated from the rest of the population as blacks were in the South."

What does that have to do with the argument at hand? Sounds like some sort of apology.

2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.

These are racist. Plain and simple. Why does the word "black" have to be in there at all? There's a reason. Can you imagine if McCain's church was "Commited to the white community?" He would be likened to David Duke and deservedly so.

this site sucks more and more each day

Then leave, 10:41.

This site gives me a reason to live. If you don't like it take a f*ckin walk, commie.

I see dark power's back on the dope. 10:41 and 11:31 are him. He must be mad because he just found obama is a racist.

These are racist. Plain and simple. Why does the word "black" have to be in there at all? There's a reason. Can you imagine if McCain's church was "Commited to the white community?" He would be likened to David Duke and deservedly so.

Posted by: olby sucks at March 2, 2008 5:10 PM

"Deservedly so" is a very apt way to put it, because if you substituted the word "white" in these sentences they would be identical to the sort of statements and philosophy articulated by the people who enacted Jim Crow and the mentality that advocated separate water fountains, and people of color to the back of the bus.

When you can find an equivalent of THAT within the statements above, YOU might sounds you have an argument in fact and in reality rather than just some sort frivolous point on "principle". In fact, when you can find an equivalent of THAT within the statements, let me know, I'll gladly criticism Obama's church membership with you...

Uh oh....

Cecelia not only doesn't defend rk's stupidity she also calls him out. I thought I'd never see this.

See what happens when you ban the 4 or 5 opposing views? The rednecks eat their own.

Uh oh....

Cecelia not only doesn't defend rk's stupidity she also calls him out. I thought I'd never see this.

See what happens when you ban the 4 or 5 opposing views? The rednecks eat their own.
Posted by: at March 3, 2008 12:29 AM

Which makes we rednecks a lot more honest than you. The only way you stand up for your beliefs is if they happen to be uttered by someone who can win a primary.

"if you substituted the word "white" in these sentences they would be identical"

That's the point I was making by asking why the word "black" is added to this, for example. Maybe you didn't understand or rushed to judgment.

2. Commitment to the Black Community

Why not just be commited to community, period?

3. Commitment to the Black Family

Why not be committed to families, period, like all other church's?
The word "black" is there for a reason. I am not religious, I am spiritual being Native American, but I was raised Catholic and spent countless hours in Church and studying the Bible. I think cee can better dissect obamas church beliefs. As a matter of fact, I think he already has.

Cecelia, I was just waiting for one of the olbyloons to jump all over the fact you disagreed with me. "See, rk even Cecelia thinks you're dumb!" I think it's laughable and it shows their desperation.

If anyone is eating their own it's obama and hillary, but, they (loons) refuse to address that.

Why not be committed to families, period, like all other church's?
The word "black" is there for a reason. I am not religious, I am spiritual being Native American, but I was raised Catholic and spent countless hours in Church and studying the Bible. I think cee can better dissect obamas church beliefs. As a matter of fact, I think he already has.
Posted by: olby sucks at March 3, 2008 12:39 AM

Well, you could start with the fact that this church has taken on the particular mission of helping their own community. Why in the world would anyone have a problem with that? Goodness knows African-Americans need to take responsibility for the problems inherent in their community-- as to education...as to uplifting the family structure... as to a work ethic.... as to community responsibility....

Ethnic communities have traditionally done this but because of the consequences of slavery, blacks had to look to govt --ie rulings down from the Supreme Court... for equal footing. Frankly, it's a pattern that has become a dependency on some level and made them prey to politicians.

By all mean, every encouragement should be given to the black community to come together and lift themselves up in the way that every community in this country has had to do.

You should be celebrating the tenets of Obama's church, not criticizing them.

Cecelia not only doesn't defend rk's stupidity she also calls him out. I thought I'd never see this.

See what happens when you ban the 4 or 5 opposing views? The rednecks eat their own.
Posted by: at March 3, 2008 12:29 AM

Cecelia and I have disagreed many times, you're just to stupid to have ever noticed it. I can't speak for rk, though. :D

Cecelia and I have disagreed many times, you're just to stupid to have ever noticed it. I can't speak for rk, though. :D
Posted by: olby sucks at March 3, 2008 12:55 AM

Well, I have heard comments that you are Royal King and I haven't seen a post from him in a long time. Does the statement above mean you aren't Royal King?

2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.

Cecelia, you would have no problem if you were driving down the street and passed a church that had big signs saying the above? I have a feeling it would be burned down in short order.

Ah, my little Cecelia how naive of you to think that because they don't proclaim to want to have seperate water fountains or to have whites sit in the back of the bus that they do not wish it to be.

And, let me ask that when these atrocities were going on down south were there not also whites who thought it was wrong?

Why have, in this multi-cultured America that you all preach about, ANY foundation that asks for exclusitivity in regards to race, unless it is there for the sole purpose of being exclusive?

Is it not saying that you feel you care more for that race by specifying only THAT race, and not to include others?

My histroy has told me about the atrocities that were done towards the black race, but where is the point where things are really equal?

If by asking and doing just for that one race, is that not the same as asking that that race be excluded from the crede that all men are created equal. Because if we are all equal, then why ask for proclamations just for one race?

Why does your country ask for a quota for the black man for jobs, hiring and so forth if that same country also follows the crede that everybody is equal?

It seems to me that when I see something like:
2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System...I see a form of bias that had started in Germany when the Germans also had the thought that they were being overrun by the Jews, and not only did they come up with their exclusive clubs to keep the Jews out, but felt it was their RIGHT to do so because they felt oppressed from the Jews.

Tyranny followed, and a lot worse than anything that even I could think of, and yet you defend the right of the blacks to do this?

However, like the one known as olby sucks said that if a white man's church had this same form of exclusiveness, he would be banished from your country.

Well apparently to me "equal" is only in the eye of the beholder: white, and you are told that everybody is equal and therefore you must never assume you should get any allotments and that you must help the ones not white. Black, and you can assume that you are unique and therefore not to be held to the same standards as everybody else.

Where is the equality in that philosophy?

No, from what I have seen, your country will never have equality in it because of the ones like you who are so fearful of stating that if a black man is not pulling his weight that he should be reprimanded for it, but the irony on the opposite side is that if a white man IS pulling his weight he is scolded for not pulling it enough.

These black churches have always mystified me, as it seems they can do and say whatever they please against America without ever being afraid of repercussions. Even to the point of honoring a man who has stated worse things than the only man I would ever be afraid of...Hitler.

Allah bless America, and maybe I also have Cecelia on my side now!

Akuba!!! Ayeee!!!!

2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.

Cecelia, you would have no problem if you were driving down the street and passed a church that had big signs saying the above? I have a feeling it would be burned down in short order.

Posted by: olby sucks at March 3, 2008 1:16 AM

Ah, but I did here about things like that going on in the south years ago. I think your country called them "the Ku Klux Klan."

Akuba!!! Ayeee!!!!

Cecelia, you would have no problem if you were driving down the street and passed a church that had big signs saying the above? I have a feeling it would be burned down in short order.

Posted by: olby sucks at March 3, 2008 1:16 AM

I've already stated that I would, O.S., and have stated why such statements would be ominous in the way they are not when they refer to a minority.

Now, you can put your hands over your ears and sing because you don't want to hear it or wish to pretend that there's no historical precedent for such concern, but that's your problem.

Again, I'm not saying that racism can't or doesn't exist in people who are not caucasian, I'm saying that I don't discern it Obama's church's tenets simply because they make clear that this church has dedicated itself through education, work, family enrichment, personal service, to uplifting members of the black community. That's needed!

To me, it's far more concerning when Mrs. Obama tells African-Americans to stay out of the business world. It's a mindset like THAT, that limits people.

2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.

So, you are saying that these aren't "needed?"

2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.

So, you are saying that these aren't "needed?"

Posted by: olby sucks at March 3, 2008 11:07 AM

They are needed for everyone, but that's true to an even greater extent when you are a racial or ethnic minority. There's nothing wrong with Korean Churches seeing their role as primarily ministering to Koreans and for black churches to see their role as primarily ministering for blacks.

Historically such rhetoric in the majority group has been an attempt to consolidate power and to keep the minority pop. out.

That's overwhelmingly likely to be the case if you see that sort of rhetoric on behalf of caucasians now.

I understand your universal point about color blindness, but I don't think that concept is such a monolith (for lack of a better word) that it would automatically define as "racist" any targeted mission within a minority ethnic or racial community to lift up its own members.

And, now you have admitted you're a racist, Cecelia. Is see years of therapy, but I see a walk to the light.

And, now you have admitted you're a racist, Cecelia. Is see years of therapy, but I see a walk to the light.

Posted by: at March 3, 2008 2:22 PM

I see you forever staying as idiotic as you are now.

new gal, this is a straight foreward question. Do you think that Louie Farrakhan or Al Sharpton are racists?

Farrakhan, yes; Sharpton, no, Royal King.

To add: I suspect that is why Obama has denounced one, but not that latter.

Now, a simple question: Are you a racist, Royal King? Never mind. The answer is self-evident.

Obese black leader famous for supporting Tawana Brawley who claimed she was raped by police in the late 80's but was found to have lied. Sharpton claimed at one point to have a witness and other evidence but continually failed to produce any.

Democrats Embrace Al Sharpton's Racist National Action Network

While it is obvious that no "cracker" or "bloodsucking Jew" (terminology used by National Action Network people while they were killing a Jew in Crown Heights and burning down a Jewish-owned store in Harlem) who knows anything about Sharpton could possibly vote for anyone who consorts with him, neither can any self-respecting African-American. Racists and anti-Semites appeal universally to the absolute dregs of the societies for which they claim to speak. If former Ku Klux Klansman David Duke appeals to the lowest class of white person, the kind of Black whose vote Al Sharpton can actually deliver is self-evident. By acting as though Al Sharpton can "deliver the Black vote," Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Howard Dean, John Edwards, Bill Richardson, and Joe Biden (the one who effectively called Obama a credit to his race) have effectively equated all African-Americans to the class of white people who regard David Duke as a leader.

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http://www.stentorian.com/MoveOn/sharpton.html

Royal King, you are behind the times, as usual. Sharpton is svelte in comparison to your hero, the despicable racist, homophone, Michael Savage.

Good thing you aren't Sharptons lawyer. That wasn't much of a defense. Savage has said nothing even close in comparison to your buddy, al. A+ for diversion.

You keep misusing the word \"diversion.\" Why do you flaunt your idiocy? Why are you so proud that you don\'t understand what the word means?

Haven\'t you ever for a moment in life, wished you were a smart educated person? Just once?

dark po**r, is Franklin Delanor Roosevelt a "racial epithet?"

When the topic is alSharpton and someone invokes Dr. Savage, it is nothing more than a diversion, dp.

No, Jeff, it is a reality check, and you don't deal well with reality. Most racists don't.

So, if I said that I knew somebody when I was 20 that only drank ripple and Old English. Listened only to r & b. Dated only black girls. Hung with almost all black guys. Slept late. Missed more school than most. Played basketball better than most. Could never last longer than two months on any job. Didn't know who the Beatle's were. Hated almost all whites. Thought that most white cops were murderers. Also said that this person's mom was on welfare. And, after all that, said that this person was black

then I would be considered a racist, and not one who deals with reality. Is that right 1:51? I just want to make sure.

Because unlike you I believe olby sucks only deals in reality, which is why he, like I, don't hold any race to a higher esteem than any other.

That he calls them as he sees them, without any fear of being labled a racist, because he judge's all people by what they do and say, and NOT by what they look like.

The reality about my above scenario, is that it is true. True to the last sentence, but what I left out is that this black person was my best friend. Not only he, but many of his friends were my homie's too.

Clubin', partying all night long is all we did, along with long hours of bb, but in your eyes I am a racist because I told the truth.

Well Mr. PC, I would bet my last dollar that you and your kind wouldn't last a day in our hood. You'd cry the first time one of these black men told you to get out of their black club.

I take it back, you wouldn't have the gonads to even enter one of their clubs, and believe me if you did it would only be on a dare from one of your white friends, because to enter a black club was "crazy man."

Yeah, my white friends and me have been labled "racists" for the past 30 years by you and your kind, but you'll never find a black man that would say it about me.

Pretty ironic don't you think? That the only people who claim racism, are always the ones who haven't a clue what a black man is truly like, because in their eyes they should be held to a higher standard, whereas in reality they are no different than any of us, and should be treated as such.

You wouldn't understand that ever, because you are the ted Kennedy's of the world who say to allow the blacks anywhere to live, as long as they don;t live next to him.

I have lived 40 years of my life in neighborhoods which were about 70% black, and the only problem I ever had were with the bleeding heart liberals who always spoke about something they knew nothing about.

Racist? Get to know a black man and how he really thinks, and believe me you'll be the first one that comes away knowing you've been the racist all along.

You haven't a clue...In the meantime I'm still hanging with Eisley, Jerome, Theo, Fredo, and Walter all the while just being a racist for the past 40 years...

The time we all still laugh about was when back in the 70's we were all playing bb down at Kennedy park in 'empsted, N.Y, when a black guy got out of hand with his bow's, and hit me in the head.

I called him out on it, with a few choice words and drove a punch upside his head, and this white guy who actually had the nerve to come down to the park (almost all black except for the few regular whites that played there), say's something to the effect...

"hey man that's not right." Well before I can even straighten the fag's hairdo, in comes that same black guy I punched slapping this whitey wiper bringing tears to his eyes.

The white pc'er then tries to tell the black guy that he was sticking up for him, and he gets slapped again. You see, a black man doesn't need any whitey wipe sticking up for him, and the more they do the more the black man hates him for it.

Needless to say the wipe leaves no more than 30 seconds after he was humiliated, and by the end of the day this black guy and me are hanging at the local club Flagstone's doin' the do's with some fly girls along with our firends.

We still laugh about that day to this day, and just keep on laughing every time they hear the "racist" label being thrown my way.

Racism? We are all alike man, and ONLY when the day comes where you bleeding hearts stop treating the black man like he's different will any sign of equality pop up.

Sharpton in the hood is known as "buttercup" not only because of his obvious weight problem, but also because of how he "butter's up" to the ignorant blacks.

I don't even want to tell you what we think about Jackson, and when it comes to Farrakhan...well let me just say that what he says about the whites makes my black friends madder at him than I am.

don't hold any race to a higher esteem than any other.

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Code phrase used by Republicans meaning African Americans are inferior. This replaced the earlier racist Republican code-speak, "Some of my best friends are Negroes."

Obese black leader famous for supporting Tawana Brawley who claimed she was raped by police in the late 80's but was found to have lied. Sharpton claimed at one point to have a witness and other evidence but continually failed to produce any.

No, Jeff, he's not a racist it is a reality check.

Posted by: at March 4, 2008 1:51 AM

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They included seemingly anti-Semitic quotes by Sharpton from the 1991 Crown Heights affair where tensions between blacks and Hasidic Jews resulted in riots and a murder, as well as a reference to "Socrates and them Greek homos" allegedly from a 1994 speech.

Sharpton's people (led by Sharpton) paraded around the store while shouting racial and anti-Semitic epithets, along with threats to burn the store to the ground. One of Sharpton's followers made good on the threat, and seven people died in the fire.

Is 1991 the last time you read a newspaper, Jeff?

Nope. I just wanted to put another 'sharpton apologist' feather in your hat.

I rather imagine you have a more creative use of your feather in mind, Jeff.

Thanks, lil sharpy!

No problem, L'il Adolph.

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obama needs more time to knock the 40's out of his voters hands, hotwire their cars, feed the pitbulls, beat their old lady's and hook up with their dealers, it's only 8pm!

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