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Keith Olbermann has insulted Holocaust survivors, Jews, women, African-Americans... Last night this beacon of "tolerance" did it again. His latest slur: another insulting stereotype, this time directed at Hispanics. Don't hold your breath waiting for Think Propaganda or Hillary Clinton's Media Matters to call him on it either:
UPDATE: The Olbersphere reacts...
Olbermann Smears Latinos with Guacamole
What's With Olbermann: First Chicken & Waffles, Now Guacamole
Everyone is so sensitive now a days.
I think the Saturday Night Live skit of the black guy being found in the chicken and waffles place and then saying it's racist to have looked for him in a chicken and waffles place, pretty much sums up all this.
Keith Olbermann needs to be held accountable for a lot of what he says but a piece like this demeans conservatives by lowering ourlselves to the tawdry tactics that people such as Olbermann and most liberals use. We're better than this.
> the tawdry tactics that people such as Olbermann and most liberals use.
Perhaps that's the point.
olberscum speaks as though marbles are in his gape-hole! all northeast newsreaders are told what to speak about,nothing like a puppet-robot to hear tired old socialist idiocy!
I think you could add a bit about Olbermann making a fat joke too, Johnny. I think the punchline "pass the guacamole" is in reference to Bill Richardson looking like he's put on about 30lbs.
@Cecelia
It's from Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo, not SNL.
@Cecelia
It's from Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo, not SNL.
Posted by: azmanam at February 5, 2008 2:19 PM
Oh, sorry! Thank you!
Oh and the zeig Heil salute was about Malmedy
Posted by: Bill O'lielly at February 5, 2008 1:34 PM
Yes, BOL we know what the Sieg Heil salute was about. This whole issue has been addressed many times on this site and the contentions by Olbermann that BOR "supports Nazis" have been shown to blatantly false.
The whole story of Olbermann's "O'Reilly supports Nazis" accusations can be found here:
http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2006/07/olbermann_defen.php
However, to sum it up, Olby appeared at a Television Critics of America meeting and held a paper cut out of O'Reily's face over his own and flashed the Seig Heil salute, implying that O"Reilly is a Nazi or symapthizes with them. This, of course, like many of Olbermann's nutty attacks, is the discourse of a desperate, attention seeking hack with a severe anti-social personality disorder (thus the multiple times that he has been fired and the fact that few people who have worked with him in the past have any desire to associate with him).
And of course, the Anti-Defamation League recognized the outrageousness of this gutless attack and admonished Olbermann who refused to respond.
BOL demonstrates once again that is an Olbermann lackey
Let me get this right....Olbermann can become all sanctimonious over Billo having well supported cynicism over Silky's outragous manipulation of 200K homeless veterans under 200K bridges yet our wonderful host here at OW sends it right back at the demogogue and the defenders roll their eyes at the same uselss and unnecessary sanctimony?
Like Johnny said to, "the tawdry tactics that people such as Olbermann and most liberals use."
"Perhaps that's the point."
You guys on the left crack me up.....So quick to cast your self-rightous indignation yet so thinned skinned as to not see the joke is on you!
Just follow the advice of Christ and you won't go wrong....you know...the speck in your neighbor's eye in comparison to the log in your own?.....
Hello, Olbermann?....Have you heard of that one?
Still no apology about the anti-Semitism as far as I have heard......
I find myself agreeing with ANON. It is nice when we can find common ground. I doubt that either Olbermann or O'Reilly is racist or a Nazi sympathizer, although both can be insensitive. I agree that both are pompous and have inflated egos. However, there are two differences that I find important.
The first difference is that O'Reilly is willing to have people with alternative views on his show and Olbermann never does. I know that several people on this site attribute this to Olbermann being a coward, which may be true. I personally doubt that Olbermann is bright enough and fast enough to hold his own in a hostile debate environment. My evidence to support this contention is how poorly he handles live commentary following debates or during election coverage.
The second difference is that Olbermann's hypocrisy seems to know no bounds. He is literally a caricature of hypocrisy, ranting and raving about behaviors that are far more extreme and commonplace in his behavioral repertoire than in the person he is criticizing at the moment. How he can do it with a straight face is beyond me. I can only assume that he so totally lacks insight into his own behavior that he is oblivious to his own hypocrisy. Alternatively, he is simply a fraud, who will do anything for ratings.
The second difference is that Olbermann's hypocrisy seems to know no bounds. He is literally a caricature of hypocrisy, ranting and raving about behaviors that are far more extreme and commonplace in his behavioral repertoire than in the person he is criticizing at the moment.
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Been reading this blog for long? Olbermahn and his olbyloons are all peas in a pod. It's become boring pointing it out.
This isn't the first time for KO. Didn't he refer to AG Gonzalez as "boy"?
Grammie
Oh....and the sanctimonious attitude of Keith Olbermann and the rest of the left also includes their demogoguery over the war, using the troops as political pawns, the famous "what about the children?" rhetoric over SCHIP, calling Bush a liar AND the hystrionics over the supposed loss of civil liberties......
Good night and good God you all make me nauseous.
> This isn't the first time for KO. Didn't he refer to AG Gonzalez as "boy"?
A "houseboy" to be precise. I would've included that in the montage but I couldn't lay my hands on video of it.
I hope the irony is not lost on the Olbyloons. Herr Olbermann spent weeks, actually dozens of shows, harping on George Allen calling someone "macaca". And why? Because in some language, "macaca" translates to "monkey" and that's an ethnic slur.
But Olby calls Chris Wallace not a word that can be translated as monkey, but skips right over the translation part and flat-out calls him a "monkey". Oh, the Olbypocrisy is rich.
But Johnny, don't you know that our country is in a state of emergency and Olbermann has been given a special license to practice hypocrisy?
This isn't the first time for KO. Didn't he refer to AG Gonzalez as "boy"?
Grammie
Posted by: Janet Hawkins at February 5, 2008 3:49 PM
Gonzalez should consider himself lucky. With the last Latino he had it out for, he demanded naked pictures... :D
Feeble attempts at justification, in regards to the slurs were made by some spolbyloons. Others just flat out denied or totally ignored them. Proof is all over this blog, too.
But Johnny, don't you know that our country is in a state of emergency and Olbermann has been given a special license to practice hypocrisy?
Posted by: Sharon at February 5, 2008 4:11 PM
Some call that license a "pass".
A N O N Y M O U S wrote: "O'Reilly's utter and regrettable ignorance of Malmedy".
Hank provide the link which you obviously do not care to read but which shows quite clearly that Olbermann has utterly distorted what O'Reilly said and the repeatedly lied about his own claims and his Nazi salute antics.
If you care to dispute the post Hank linked be my guest (you can't because it is entirely accurate) but don't come here and call say "black" is "white" and except clear-thinker readers to be fooled. Why don't you toddle off to Daily Kos or FDL where they will be thrilled to shout "amen" to each every kooky claim you care to make.
Olbermann's One-Night Stand was with a Latina who went on to expose his inadequacies in the bedroom. Perhaps that is why he now insults Latinos as a whole?
Proof is all over this blog, too.
Posted by: royal king at February 5, 2008 4:14 PM
See 4:27, above.
So, Fox News (#1) doctors their transcripts/video and media matters is gospel? Any proof to either?
The left-wing organization Media Matters (MMFA) appears to have been caught red-handed in an ugly and false smear attack against Cliff Kincaid, editor of Accuracy in Media (AIM) and president of America's Survival, Inc. In an August 19, 2005, item entitled, "AIM's Kincaid posted 'letter' from Afghan ambassador thanking him for petition to extradite Newsweek's Isikoff," Media Matters clearly implies that Kincaid fabricated a letter from an Afghan ambassador. However, every indication reveals that Kincaid did no such thing.
More proof.
http://homepage.mac.com/mkoldys/iblog/C1049953760/E20070926121225/index.html
More proof....
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/john-stephenson/2007/09/30/john-gibson-rips-media-matters-liberal-bias-lies
More proof.....
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/01/06/media-matters-lies-about-has-response-to-jamilgate/
More proof.......
rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_100407/content/01125108.guest.html
More proof....
www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=20525
There's 40,100,000 more hits, should I keep going?
> The actual transcript, from FOX (after it was doctored, then restored) is:
We proved that was a lie, and yet you repeated it. You should do your research before you repeat OlbyLies here. We're on to your tricks.
http://homepage.mac.com/mkoldys/iblog/C1049953760/E20060702131515/index.html
I am Hispanic and what Keith said does sound racist.
But I keep asking myself, is this show a comedy or is it trying to pass as a real news program.
If it's a comedy show then I'm not offended by it, if it isn't, then Bill Richardson and Hispanics are owed an apology or at least an explanation by Keith and I will write to his show expressing my views.
Joe, KO's show is as serious as the plague.
It is advertised and touted as MSNBC's News show of Record. On my cable guide it actually says that KO interviews the top NEWSMAKERS of the day. I guess Shuster, Crawford et al have gotten big promotions when no one was looking.
Grammie
We can all only hope you bore yourself into oblivion.
Posted by: at February 5, 2008 5:32 PM
Whatever you do, DO NOT attempt to defend yourself or Olbermahn. Wouldn't be prudent.......or possible.
All the while she quotes from media matters! TFF!!!!(+)------(*)=====
> You're not onto anything, Mr. Dollar
I'm on to one thing: you lied about Fox doctoring a transcript. Your lack of rebuttal to the proof exposing that particular lie is most telling. Thank you for your comment.
To all of them..."it's morning in America"
Posted by: Why Don't You Think at February 5, 2008 7:49 PM
There's a message in that statement which would do you more good than any successful political campaign for any politician, in any party, from here to eternity...
> You obviously chose to ignore the links. Malmedy to Normandy back to Malmedy. Shocked!
That sentence you just typed is a LIE. You claim I ignore the links? Did you read the link I gave you that PROVES it's a lie?? And guess what, it's still a lie, no matter how many times you type it. And your refusal to even look at the facts makes your opinion worth less than the square root of zero.
You obviously don't care to have your own private reality challenged, so continue to repeat Olbermann's lies, and if someone tries to tell you the truth, just put your hands over your ears and yell LALALA as loud as you can. Whatever you do, don't read the facts.
You cite a lie, I cite a fact, and you claim the two are roughly equivalent: persuasive but not compelling. In fact there is no evidence to support your claim about the transcript being doctored and then re-corrected. Zero evidence. Nothing whatsoever. Olbermann made it up out of whole cloth and the blue blogs loved it. Unfortunately, the facts proved to be something else entirely. A simple check with the transcript company (who do the transcripts, not Fox, and also do them for Olbermann and Countdown) revealed what really happened.
It's instructive that with all the evidence on one side you choose to call it a draw. That's on a par with Olbermoronn making it up in the first place and never correcting his lie even when the truth came out. It's probably the most disreputable aspect of Olbypologists: they refuse to blame their hero when he's caught in a lie, and won't even admit it IS a lie.
I'm not going to "hold my breathe", whatever that means, but Bosco sounds like a good idea.
Keep digging Cecelia and ignore that poll...there has to be a pony somewhere under that pile of shit left from your party.
Posted by: Why Don't You Think at February 5, 2008 8:09 PM
Polls mean jack diddly, 'why.' Your desperation continues to show.
You're right. It's called 'campaign rhetoric' from the Reagan years.
Keep digging Cecelia and ignore that poll...there has to be a pony somewhere under that pile of shit left from your party.
Posted by: Why Don't You Think at February 5, 2008 8:09 PM
And you'll always look for a pile of shit under a pony.
It suits you. :D
Johnny,
You want to see today's arguments about O'Reilly... Fox News... etc etc. turned into the wind that they are.
Tomorrow or the next day, try making the identical statement-- "Olbermann is a scumbag who is fast and loose with the truth"-- in ANY context, and see if the inevitable "discussion" which results, turns out to be one speck different from the one you're having now.
It won't be. Not one speck.
RK, let Why know that he's supposed to ride the pony, not the pile.
Darn, Cecelia. I had my popcorn all ready to pop for when Bobo started his demonstration of how he rides the pile and not the horse.
Oh well, maybe there is a good Bette davis on. :)
Grammie
Darn, Cecelia. I had my popcorn all ready to pop for when Bobo started his demonstration of how he rides the pile and not the horse.
Oh well, maybe there is a good Bette davis on. :)
Grammie
Posted by: Janet Hawkins at February 5, 2008 10:17 PM
Daddy's home... :D
Olbermann has made anti-Hispanic statements for years. Also not all Hispanics eat Gaucamole.
what rubs my ass raw, is that they refuse to learn to speak American, I tell you what.
Not easy when you are at the drive-thru trying to order double lardo nachos, no spicy sauce please.
Apple falls not too far.......well, you know the rest.
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There is a pattern with Keith:
Calling a Hispanic a "houseboy"
Calling a Jew a "monkey"
Calling a black "chicken and waffles"
Now imagine what would happen if it had been a conservative who said those things.
James, I shudder to think considering what happened to Trent lott over his innoccious comment at Strom Thurmond's 100th Birthday celebration.
My Mama, Grandfather and a half dozen or more Aunts, Uncles and even a cousin lived to 100 or more. That is no mean feat, belive me, especially when they maintain the bulk of their faculties to almost the very end.
One would have thought that Lott's little congratutory comment was on the order of Hiroshima and Nagasaki squared.
Surely the worm will turn one day and we will at least apprroach the point that MLK envisioned. Until then, in the words of Bette Davis, "fasten your seat belts. It's going to be a bumpy ride"!
Grammie
I believe Olby thinks he is the DI in Full Metal Jacket:
http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Full-Metal-Jacket.html
Master Gunnery Sergeant HARTMAN:
"There is no racial bigotry here! I do not look down on niggers, kikes, wops or greasers. Here you are all equally worthless! And my orders are to weed out all non-hackers who do not pack the gear to serve in my beloved Corps! Do you maggots understand that?"
also,
"Bullshit! From now on you're Private
Snowball! Well, there's one thing that you won't like, Private Snowball! They
don't serve fried chicken and watermelon on a daily basis in my mess hall!"
Leave the Bovine to his paranoid hallucinations, before you actually descend down to his level of irrelevance.
You got to be kidding. You guys just cannot handle being called on the carpet for your pinhead lies and garbage. Keith was right-on tonight calling Carville's charleton wife on the carpet for her filthy remark about McCain. Ha ha Romney's family were run out of dodge into Mexico for their "Big Love lifestyle".
How dare she...Praise Jesus for Keith Olbermann, he is an angel sent from The Lord to clean out the sinners like you and your ilk.
Leave the Bovine to his paranoid hallucinations, before you actually descend down to his level of irrelevance.
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at February 6, 2008 9:04 PM
And THIS psycho is calling someone else crazy...
Posted by: Evangelical.republican.nomore at February 6, 2008 9:16 PM
Nice to see you delivering the pizza to Olbermann. Where do you get your blue dress cleaned?
Bovine got names.
Let's ask Bovine for them tracking lists.
Including the posts that Bovine wrongly foisted upon other posters.
Let's see you run.
Cecelia, where did you get the list from? I didn't see it.
Grammie
Hag-zilla, guess who is playing the name game now?
Cecelia, where did you get the list from? I didn't see it.
Grammie
Posted by: Janet Hawkins at February 6, 2008 9:42 PM
They're posts from 1/26 when Bob banned some of Patsy's ISPs.
Dazzling list, isn't it... :D
Hag-zilla, guess who is playing the name game now?
Posted by: Not from Cecelia at February 6, 2008 9:46 PM
It wouldn't matter.
With a history that has generated that sort of list, the assumption that Patsy is behind any nom du jour would be perfectly reasonable.
Thank you, Cecelia, for proving me right.
Along with Bovine.
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you, Cecelia, for proving me right.
Along with Bovine.
Thank you. Thank you.
Posted by: You mean Robert Sucking Cox cannot ban me? at February 6, 2008 9:57 PM
And thank you for being Exhibit A.... :D
as little as there is.
To Bovine, it seemed perfectly reasonable to accuse me of being "Mike" from post # 1.
Reasonable, indeed. Glad to see you going to such extremes.
It would take a milenium to integrate even half of his personalities.
I wonder what happened to him to cause such a shattering of his personality?
Grammie
It would take a milenium to integrate even half of his personalities.
I wonder what happened to him to cause such a shattering of his personality?
Grammie
Posted by: Janet Hawkins at February 6, 2008 10:05 PM
BU$HWIPE$... :D
I'm severely distraught by the withdrawal of Fred Thompson.
Shit! I thought this time we BU$HWIPES would get a Real Reagan Conservative into the Whithe House.
Shit! John McCain. Shit!
To Bovine, it seemed perfectly reasonable to accuse me of being "Mike" from post # 1.
Reasonable, indeed. Glad to see you going to such extremes.
Posted by: Riiiiiiight! Just like before I started fuckin with Bovine's brain at February 6, 2008 10:03 PM
Look at that list, moron! It's not unreasonable to assume that there's really only one liberal on the entire internet and that it's YOU.
Is there something in the air here that makes you guys blame everyone but yourselves for your behavior?
Is there something in the air here that makes you guys blame everyone but yourselves for your behavior?
Posted by: Cecelia at February 6, 2008 10:12 PM
Yes, I'm sure it's illegal, too.
Sybyll only fractured into seventeen personalities.
I wonder what his Mama did to him to make him shatter into hundreds of personalities?
Must have been bad!
Grammie
I wonder what his Mama did to him to make him shatter into hundreds of personalities?
Must have been bad!
Grammie
Posted by: Janet Hawkins at February 6, 2008 10:21 PM
Made him say "please" and "thank you" and to stop eating his feces.
WOW!
Thank you, again.
What's next, morons? My head on MicroSoft's Mt. Redmond?
What's next, morons? My head on MicroSoft's Mt. Redmond?
Posted by: So now it is only one liberal commanding the Internets at February 6, 2008 10:27 PM
No, but you could get a page in the DSM-IV.
Cecelia, I assume the DSM-IV is a medical guide that describes and catalogues mental and personality disorders.
If so I would think he would rate a chapter at least.
Grammie
Cecelia, I assume the DSM-IV is a medical guide that describes and catalogues mental and personality disorders.
If so I would think he would rate a chapter at least.
Grammie
Posted by: Janet Hawkins at February 6, 2008 10:35 PM
Actually, now that I think about it, Janet, they'd need a DSM-V, VI, VII, etc... :D
I still think he's the loon that posted the video of himself drooling all over Olbyonesidedkanoby last year. It was featured in a thread here.
I've gone from commanding the internets to a full chapter in DSM-IV, all in a few minutes.
What's next you morons? A few Koz Kids fucking with ya?
I've gone from commanding the internets to a full chapter in DSM-IV, all in a few minutes.
What's next you morons? A few Koz Kids fucking with ya?
Posted by: Thank you Hag-zilla at February 6, 2008 10:43 PM
aaawwwwww.....Such a nice normal boy and yet all the bad bad people suspect him of posting under aliases and suspect him of namejacking and they say bad bad things about him...
It's a cruel world if your name is...eh...what is your name this second?
Thank$ Pat$y CakeS!
Grammie
Cecelia, don't put the poor baby on the spot with such a direct question.
Before he could get his name at that instant out it could change and then he would be all in a tizzy.
I shudder to think what the consequences of him being in a tizzy might entail. I would hate for him to explode and ruin my brand new monitor.
Grammie
Don't be such a dumbass, Cecelia.
This episode started with a few posters making fun of the dumbest shithead around O.W.
Fine.
You want to defend him, Bovine, you could as well go down with him.
Don't be such a dumbass, Cecelia.
This episode started with a few posters making fun of the dumbest shithead around O.W.
Fine.
You want to defend him, Bovine, you could as well go down with him.
Posted by: I forgot what my name is at February 6, 2008 10:58 PM
Listen. It's no one's fault that you've carried on in such a way that would cause people to suspect you of posting under anyone and everyone's name and everything else in between.
That's YOUR rep. You earned it. You've no one to thank or to blame but yourself.
You want to defend him, Bovine, you could as well go down with him.
Posted by: I forgot what my name is at February 6, 2008 10:58 PM
BTW-- Is that a threat?
Exactly what does this mean, shape shifter:
"You want to defend him, Bovine, you could as well go down with him.
Posted by: I forgot what my name is at February 6, 2008 10:58 PM "
Exactly who went down?
How did they go down?
Was the downfall at your hands?
If I go down who will cause what?
Why do I have a niggling feeling in the back of my mind that in person up against anyone other than a lone woman you would be a Henry Milquetoast afraid of your own shadow?
WALTER MITTY at your service m'am!
Take a hike!
Grammie
In a similar vein as with Bovine, several posters have noticed that you, Janet, post some really stupid, long winded, comments.
So take that "niggling feeling in the back of (your) mind" apply lots of Bengay and step away from the crystal ball.
Posted by: Not a threat of any kind at February 7, 2008 7:18 AM
Patsy, I'm glad to hear it wasn't a threat.
I'd like you to clear this up too, if you will.
We've already covered the fact that any reasonable person would understand that if they post under scores of names, that they could realistically expect that another person might suspect of them of using a name that they had not used in one particular instance.
That's the price for that behavior.
Now you seem to find that concept hard to comprehend, so we'll move on to my next question.
Another reason that you site for your animus against RK, is that you think he's stupid and contributes nothing to the site but HIS animus towards others.
Now, this is ironic to me, because you haven't exactly done anything differently yourself. In the years you've been here, you haven't been engaging in debate or discussion with others or elucidating germane arguments...
In fact 99.9% of what you write is mockery of conservatives and Republicans screamed in all caps across the site.
It's "BU$HWIPE$", "RAY-GUN REPUBLICANS" and the like, as well as other posts denoting the same sort of disdain and animus towards opponents that you accuse RK of contributing.
That's fine. You've had a place here and you've largely been treated tolerantly by others here and in some ways that even has denoted some sort of general liking for you.
So my question is, since your own "work" here hasn't been one iota different from how you describe RK's, what the hell are you beefing about?