Wow...just wow.
I'm almost feeling sorry for Hill.

Do you think the Village Voice editor will be back soon? He thinks this Spitzer thing is much bigger than Craig or Vitters, how dare he differ with KO.

It's alright it is the lead story on the high school grad and Colmes tonight. He is a straight guy. not a self hating gay like Larry Craig and that sick jesus freak from Colorado.

And every other news program tonight that makes any pretense whatsoever to being a news program. Of course we know Countdown is nothing but Kos-TV, so Olby treats the story accordingly.

No matter how low the expectations for Krazy, he finds a way to limbo even lower. So the Spitzer story was "leaked?" He was a Governor caught on a wiretap ordering hookers! A better question is why it took so long for the public to find out! Seems we should have heard the minute Spitzer was caught.

I bet this investigation has been going on for a while, and Spitzy has been given lots of time to get ready. If Keith were the prosecutor, we'd never know who client #9 was. I forget -- did Krazy wonder if his butt buddy Skeevy McGreevy was wronged as well?

The DUers continue to turn on Olbermann. I see a pattern.

Tonight's anti-KO thread:

"Keith Olberbama is at it again?
Come on Keith, Geebus, give Hillary at least a small break break, do your knees hurt from servicing Obama? Just wondering."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5010576

not a self hating gay like Larry Craig and that sick jesus freak from Colorado.

Posted by: Bill O'lielly at March 10, 2008 9:25 PM

... me thinks O'leiily secretly takes it in the ass.

It's alright it is the lead story on the high school grad and Colmes tonight.
Posted by: Bill O'lielly at March 10, 2008 9:25 PM

Your right O'Lielly, Sean Hannity should not be allowed to do a television show until he gets the ever valuable "communications degree", or at least until he collects more baseball cards. Hannity also needs to learn snarky catch-phrase for a highlight of a home run.

Keethy is only being fair. It was only two months ago that he was kissing Hilary's A--. Now he's just playing fair and he's doing the same to Obama.

He's just being a fair journalist who puts his finger in the air and plays to wherever his masters tell him to.

How can a person of no conviction even look at himself in the mirror each morning?

Olberman is such a putz. At one time I enjoyed his show but his "schtick" is old...he is just another MSNBC goof that is clueless about what is really happening! Between Mathews, Schuster, and Olberman...geesh...they all can't get enought of NObama...Olberman has turned me off so much I started to watch the hated Bill O'reilly....I may even turn to CNN...geesh!

Tonight on Countdown
Hillary is:
in denial, delusional, inventing categories, her credentials are not what they seem, she's silly and she's tied to Eliot Spitzer.

Keith touts top Military officials have endorses Obama squashing Hillary's arguments.
But all 3 candidates have "top military" officials endorsing them, Obama hasn't cornered the market. But yet Keith fails to mention that?

It's clear Obama has the big edge but Hillary wants to keep running and it's clear Keith desperately wants her to quit, so his candidate can get ready for McCain.
Good journalistic integrity Keith.

So why is the first 25 minutes of his show and story number 4 and 5, a Hillary hit piece when Eliot Spitzer is the big news of the day??

SNL commercial makes fools of both Hillary and Obama, yet Keith thinks it's a knock on Hillary and doesn't even speak to the Obama side of the commercial.

The rest of Keith show had more bad jokes, Fox bashing and false accusations, and more bloated talk

The loons at DU think posters from OW are responsible for the anti-Ko threads:

"We all know OW is responsible for sending their demons over to DU to make an already hotly debated primary season worse by dragging Keith through the mud, as if these pricks don't have anything better to do in their pathetic lives! That gives me all the more reason why I am thankful for the KOEB. We keep our love for Keith and our various, diverse, and loving opinions in perspective."

"Wow, when did Bob Cox get a DU account?"

But the best from the lady minister, and during Lent -

"And fuck you, Olbermann Watch people. Fuck you hard"

I was very close on my prediction tonight. Olbermann would blame Bush for the wire tap on Spitzer but I thought Keith would bring up Larry Craig. I should have known he would bring up David Vitter.

How dare Fox News list all the "Freedom Fighters" that have been arrested in the United States. I wonder how many of these "Freedom Fighters" the Spitz would have given drivers licenses to.

Sixstrings, i followed your link and this was one of the first comments:

"tom_paine (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-10-08 02:57 PM
Response to Original message
4. One cannot be certain, except to say that warantless wiretapping and the entire DOJ is a criminal
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 02:58 PM by tom_paine
Bushie operation now.

So it cannot be ruled out. It is even probable.

The sad truth of the Empire today, as it continues it's drive to neutralize opposition: Due to the Bushies' Total Information Awareness, every real crime or unethical move by the Democrats is now known to the Bushies.

I predicted this long ago. It's archived here on DU a dozen times or more. The Bushies can now walk virtually scot-free from any crime because they are the "KKK Sheriff" in the "Small Mississippi Town of the 60s" that the entire Amerikan Empire has become.

There is virtually no limit to the laws they can break, knowing that Loyal Bushies won't even bother to investigate. Sure, there are some old holdovers from Free America pre-2000, and there are still some Law Enforcement persons (the lower in rank you go, the more there are...at the highest levels of Federal law Enforcement, I am sure they are all Bushie Criminals by now an W. McCain will keep them on, of course, after he is crowned) who take their duties to the law more seriously than their loyalty to the Imperials, but they are dwindling and will eventually be gone, if these trends remain un-reversed.

The tipping point in this country has long been passed. The Bushies have us, they own us, like the Chinese own their subjects, like Putin owns his Russian subjects. The only difference is that we are treated "more nicely" because of the lie of a free Amerika must be maintained for awhile longer.

How much longer? No one can guess. It depends on how fast the economy crashes and the rest of the shit, environmental and Peak Oil, hits the fan. It also depends on how quickly the idea of Old America can be eradicated from future generations.

It is still possible that, like ancient Rome, it will have to be maintained for 100 years or more after it is no more than a myth and memory, though somehow I doubt it will be anywhere close to that long.

May God Forgive us, and help us, for we are the spitting image of the 1930s German that brought Hitler to power, the 1st Century BC Romans that brought the Caesars to power.

And this is but one more stepping stone in the Bushies' Gleichschaltung of America. They are still reducing any Ruling Class opposition to rubble. When that task is complete, then and ONLY then, will we begin to feel the true lash of tyranny that awaits us in the Penultimate and Final Solutions the Bushies have waiting for us."

I scrolled down for awhile and it was all 'You got that right and you go girl'.

These people are crying out for industrial strength drums of anti-psychotics!

Grammie

Did KO cover Obama's foreign policy advisor accidentally saying that Obama was not ready to take that 3 am call?

Just wondering. I'm betting no.

Did KO cover Obama's foreign policy advisor accidentally saying that Obama was not ready to take that 3 am call?

Just wondering. I'm betting no.

If there's a (D), Keith won't attack
Slovenly political hack
Olby's lifting a joke
The stupor he'll invoke
Is like Spitzer when looking for crack

"We all know OW is responsible for sending their demons over to DU to make an already hotly debated primary season worse by dragging Keith through the mud
Posted by: at March 10, 2008 10:07 PM

Everyone knows that you can't post DU unless you are one of the good Germans who knows how goose step correctly salute Der Olbermann praise Hiltery and Obamanation. Together they will make the trains run on time.

Chicken Blogger, could you provide a link to this:

"We all know OW is responsible for sending their demons over to DU to make an already hotly debated primary season worse by dragging Keith through the mud, as if these pricks don't have anything better to do in their pathetic lives! That gives me all the more reason why I am thankful for the KOEB. We keep our love for Keith and our various, diverse, and loving opinions in perspective."

I couldn't find it and always enjoy their lunacy.

Grammie

Spitzer was client number nine
Constituents now call him a swine
He's Dan Abrams friend
The ethics they'll bend
Send letters if you wish to opine

This is the URL from sixstring:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2983260

that I quoted from above. It is a hoot!

Grammie

Hey Phari-cee!

Anything to add yet about our government's supine position in regard to the Saudi's? You know, the people who bankroll Al Qeada and Hammas?

It's 8:06 Pacific time and there's not an olbyloon in sight! Spitzy is exposed as being one of the biggest hypocrites of all time, using his office as leverage to keep his worthless as out of jail and we got nothin' but crickeys from the 3 stooges!

I gotta see pics of a $3100-an-hour hooker.

Hey! I don't know what the big deal is?

It's not like I was having sex with Amy Fisher at 'The Freeport Motel!'

And I was looking out for the people of New York State and saving the state some money. I made Kriston take the train instead of the plane. But I had to put it down under 'Official Buisness'.

Tax breaks you know!

But I'd like to say thanks for friends like SLOB. You know when you got nothing, it's good to have a loon around to change the subject!

know, the people who bankroll Al Qeada and Hammas?

Posted by: Sir Loin of Beef at March 10, 2008 11:13 PM

You mean the same people that are "bankrolling" obama?

These people are crying out for industrial strength drums of anti-psychotics!

Grammie

Posted by: Janet Hawkins at March 10, 2008 10:16 PM

Maybe they are drinking from that river that the AP writer found all those drugs in?

Poor Rachel Madow. Keith's lesbian storm trooper didn't get Tucker's time slot. The enormous head of David Gregory got the slot. I don't know if his body will be part Chris Mathews’ show. This is a significant blow to Olbermann since he wants his tentacles in every part of MSDNC's network and Shuster deep sixed his career for now, I am sure Olbermann was pushing for his hermaphrodite to get a show. Scratch Scarborough better tune up his RINO act or he will get the short hair cut soon.

I think the little urchin Michael Musto should be the one replacing Tucker. In fact, why doesn't he team up with Rachel Maddow? Call me silly, but I think it would work! I freaky deaky tag team.

We called it. We called it. We knew that Keith would defend the Democrat Governor of New York. We knew he would try to blame Bush. Keith never lets us down. When it comes to left wing water carrying, Keith Olbermann is King.

Why doesn't MSDNC just go all out and hire that bug eyed queen who runs Kos to do a show. He can type up Keith's Spechul Komments during the break.

Can you imagine if Spitzer was a Republican? This blog would be on fire with leftists. Instead, they opt to poke their heads deep on the beach of hypocrisy.

We all know OW is responsible for sending their demons over to DU to make an already hotly debated primary season worse by dragging Keith through the mud, as if these pricks don't have anything better to do in their pathetic lives! That gives me all the more reason why I am thankful for the KOEB. We keep our love for Keith and our various, diverse, and loving opinions in perspective."

I couldn't find it and always enjoy their lunacy.

Grammie

Posted by: Janet Hawkins at March 10, 2008 10:46 PM

"Loving opinions", "various" opinions, "diverse" opinions, means that they all support Keith.

Nothing like championing diverse opinions while simultaneously saying that people who hold contrary ones should get the hell out... :D

Olbyloon Hypocrisy:

Nothing like championing diverse opinions while simultaneously saying that people who hold contrary ones should get the hell out... :D

Well, Factor, I wouldn't crow too much about Gregory. He has an uncanny ability to get to the truth, and that enver helps Republicans or Righties.

Bush to our troops:

“I appreciate the fact that you really snatched defeat out of the jaws of those who were trying to defeat us.”

Yogi Bera as president, only without the sharp intellect.

Thanks for the quote, SLOB. I know it was just a slip of the tongue, but a very Freudian one. The truth often comes out in these Freudian ways, especially by those like Bush who so seldom seek the truth and never tell it.
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O, Great Arbiter of all things good and decent in the world, i.e. Jeff, Royal King, Olby S***s, what Spitzer did was disgusting and inexcusable, possibly even illegal, but I am trying to understand your rigid moral code. Please help me.

McCain had a number of short time flings with subordinates (in violation of the Code of Military Discipline) before he had a full blown adulterous affair with his current wife, leaving behind and disgracing a woman who supported him all through his captivity and who sustained serious injuries herself (largely crippled).

Guiliani, we all know about, but in essence, he began an adulterous affair leaving the mother of his children, and paying for his "sin" escapades with city funds.

Gingrich has as many divorces as Guiliani and in the throes of an adulterous affair discussed divorce settlement with his first wife a couple of days after cancer surgery while she was still in the hospital recovering. He paid child support only sporadically. While attacking Clinton, he was having an affair with a young Congressional staffer.

The Reagan-Nancy-Jane matter and his effective abandonment of his children by Jane and his grandchildren until PR dictated he engage in some visible and questionable "healing" never gave you pause?

And, we already know about Foley, Craig and (Mary) Cheney.

All of these instances represent good, decent, upstanding, moral and ethical conduct in your estimation? Right?

So, the Clinton fling, the Spitzer visit to a prostitute, are all to be mightily condemned? I, by the way, agree that they should be, but not the others?

Where do people like Cecelia, Cee, Grammie Janet, Sharon and you get this crap? Are you all some sort of relativist degenerates yourselves or do you merely enable degenerate behavior in others? Yet, you do this because you are upstanding, decent, God-fearing, America-loving people? You all leave me in a sense of amazement for your relativism and awe for your unbelieavble gall.

"Spitzer is expected to resign - appropriately, given the current political climate regarding such things. Deviant?"

Sir Loin of Milquetoast, yesterday.....

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Well Loin, I have not heard Spitzer resign yet....so I am not so sure the hubris afflicted progressive will give up his post in the name of honesty and integrity....leftists have a tendancy to see such "private" behavior as unconnected to "public" piety although we should all remember that prostitution is usually associated with other crime syndicates like drugs, illegal gambling and other nefarious, life destroying activity....

Deviant? So Loin is suggesting paying $5500 for sexual activity is normal....Ok......I know society's definition of "deviant" has "evolved" so that many progressives feel their activity is accepted, but thankfully most still see the moral problems with prostitution and its affect on the family, and individual....

And to the anonymous poster at 7:42 AM....please look back at my comments regarding all of these perverts.....the adulterous sodomite Bill Clinton, Craig, Foley, etc.....They are all deserving of the grace and forgiveness of the almighty but the political reaction to these sinners is what is so funny to me....especially the current potential first gentleman who used women like such kleenex....

No, anon....I am equally disturbed by sin in anyone including myself....In the McCain situation, his former wife and children are 100% supportive of him showing me a wonderful reconcilliation that you seem accepting of such leftists like the adulterous sodomite and his wife, HRC....why do you not forgive McCain then since it is obvious his first wife has, like HRC?

And, unlike Spitzer who brands himself the progressive giant killer, McCain is a simple man....a man with great accomplishments personally overcoming the political disasters of the left internationally and domestically.....No democrat currently in the political arena can put a candle to McCain's biography and that must just make you so irritable!

Don't forget McCain's most recent "scandal" where Keith himself was the tool that interrupted regular programming for "breaking news"... what a hoot.

That's what I thought. A deviant enabler. You were it well, Cee.

That's what I thought. A deviant enabler. You wear it well, Cee.

That's what I thought. A deviant enabler. You wear it well, Cee.

That's what I thought. A deviant enabler. You wear it well, Cee.

Eliot's political life may be over, but I hear he's already working Hollywood for a picture deal with Kriston.

They already have the title.

'Spitz & Swallow'

In ther words, Merkle, not to change the subject as you did, you agree that McCain's behavior with reference to his first wife, Carol Shepp, and their children was despicable?

Posted by: at March 11, 2008 7:42 AM

More intense stupidity by coward ANON. McCain didn't pay 3400 for a prostitute that he traveled with. He also didn't campaign on running the prostitution rings out of town while he was paying one like the Spitz. McCain got divorced. Oh the horror!!! It only happens to about 50% of marriages. You have no evidence of proof of the reason's he got divorced but your only goal is to smear him in an attempt to two wrongs into a right.

"Spitzer would be billed for four hours at Kristen's usual rate of $1,000 per hour.

While he may have skimped on her train fare, he proved to be more generous in the end: He left $4,300 in the room after the two hour-plus tryst."

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03112008/news/regionalnews/his_tryst_with_kristen_101346.htm?page=3

Nice Tip with the state money eh?

From Same Story...

"With the incredible liaison, Spitzer continued a grand Democratic Party sex-scandal tradition by carrying on with a prostitute at the opulent Mayflower Hotel - which bills itself as "Washington's Second Best Address" after the White House.

President John F. Kennedy's mistress Judith Campbell Exner stayed at the Mayflower for a two-year period. She secretly shuttled back and forth between the hotel and the White House when his wife, Jacqueline, was away.

The Mayflower also was featured prominently during President Bill Clinton's impeachment proceedings over his affair with Monica Lewinsky."

THE MAYFLOWER HOTEL

Where Dems go, when they want to unload!

For the first time in my life I may have have found a third party canditate I can support.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp7K9Opg2Dk&feature=PlayList&p=11B20CC036210C89&index=2

As he says he is the true candidate of change!

Grammie

You have no evidence of proof of the reason's he got divorced but your only goal is to smear him in an attempt to two wrongs into a right.
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This is the typical OW response to everything. Ignore. Proof abounds. A couple of clicks away. Fat, dumb and lazy is no way to go through life, Factor.

Geez, I wonder if we'll see Spitzer puppet theater?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iODAaCliwZU

So, in this add. Was Eliot really talking about the New York when Hookers use to run 42nd street?

Just Asking.

THE MAYFLOWER HOTEL

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Beats an airport mens' room!

"As he says he is the true candidate of change!"

Grammie

Posted by: Janet Hawkins at March 11, 2008 10:45 AM

Cool! I bet Socks can get Eliot's support!

As we can all tell by now Ol' Ramrod just LOVES...............

THE MAYFLOWER HOTEL

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Beats an airport mens' room!

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Anon actually wants to rate the "ech" factor....nevermind that just south of New York another democrat governer who presented himself as "progressive" attended to his animal urges in NJ Turnpike bathrooms....

Your scale of "ech" 0-10, I suppose seems to leave out the fact that the fine man from NY was a proclaimed progressive crime fighter and it seems not to matter in your evaluation of him....while we all hear "righties" are hypocrites when they are found to be in violation of any of the 10 commandments....

The typical leftist....public piety is only an issue for the traditional "religionist." Oh dear...but the public guard of the secular is immune from the hypocrite label.....

And it seems the "religionst" label will not stick to McCain but our fair anon will try to besmurch his character anyway while his former wife has since endorced him as a good man that she would vote for President....

A well earned endorcement if you ask me.

Keith Olbermann, "political eunuch..."

TV Puts an Odd Lens on Politics
By DAVID CARR
Published: March 10, 2008

Over at MSNBC, the network is performing a similar bit of transformational magic with Keith Olbermann, the host of “Countdown” who plays left field almost every game, except when there is a primary. Then he is dressed more conservatively (hey Keith, lose the pink tie) and is oddly cast as Chris Matthews’s cool-headed wingman.

On those nights, when Mr. Olbermann asks rhetorically and soberly whether the support of the current president will help or hurt Mr. McCain, are we supposed to forget that the next night he will treat the leader of the free world with the same care that a terrier gives a chew toy?

Mr. Olbermann’s presence gives the set some urbanity and offers a point of entry for young viewers that is clearly working if you look at the ratings. But though he credibly plays a political eunuch/anchor in spurts, he is still more Jon Stewart than Tom Brokaw.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/business/media/10carr.html?ref=us

Posted by: at March 11, 2008 10:54 AM

Sorry I don't have Kos or Huff n Puff on my web browser.

Olbermann rerun up against Greta Live:

The repeat will go head-to-head with the live installments of On the Record with Greta Van Susteren on FNC and Anderson Cooper 360 on CNN.

Olbermann tells TVNewser, "All of us on Countdown never cease to be astounded and gratified by the loyalty of the 8pm audience (and especially those fierce DVR users). This move just lets us tap in to that group that can't see us earlier and doesn't like what they're seeing later."

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/msnbc/restarting_countdown_at_10pmet_79518.asp

Rove has a sense of humor:

Rove heckled in Iowa over Iraq war
March 10th, 2008, filed by Reuters Staff

University of Iowa journalism professor Frank Durham moderated the lecture and asked his own question, telling Rove, to applause and cheers from the crowd, that cable television host Keith Olbermann had named him “the worst person ever.”

“Ever?” Rove asked, wondering aloud how he could have trumped Hitler, Stalin and Mao. “Worse than the person who introduced aluminum baseball bats?”

http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2008/03/10/rove-heckled-in-iowa-over-iraq-war/

THE MAYFLOWER HOTEL

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Beats an airport mens' room!

Posted by: at March 11, 2008 11:01 AM

Well at least we can say he wasn't blowing a $1000 an hour of the state's money.

We can also say she was sucking a thousand dollars.

At least Larry Craig kept the spending under control.

Eliot did show enough compassion. He left a big enough tip so Kriston could take 'The Acela' back.

$303.00 2170 Acela Express

Washington, DC
- Union Station
(WAS)
3:00 pm
11-MAR-08 New York, NY
- Penn Station
(NYP)
5:45 pm
11-MAR-08 2h 45m Snack car 1 First Class Seat

http://tickets.amtrak.com/itd/amtrak

$303.00, does that come from the Gov. slush fund?

By the way do think Kriston had a snack or did she work the bathrooms?

Oh wait, a democrat politician, ride the train? With common people?

What was I thinking?

Besides, she got back in time to work a double.

Olbermann wins an award for the "partisan" promo (I think that is the promo that one):

MSNBC has won two 2008 CINE Special Jury Awards. One is for the documentary For God & Country: A Marine Sniper's Story, the other for an on-air promotion, Anchorman Countdown.

http://www.cine.org/special-jury-award.php

See the cool remix here at OW:

http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2008/03/keith_olbermann_82.php

Nice you're so proud of your stupidity, Factor. Try something simple that even a nitwit like you could use. Start with Wikipedia, then go to about half of the newspapers in the country. Or, don't. Wallow in your ignorance and drown in yur denial.

"Anon actually wants to rate the "ech" factor....nevermind that just south of New York another democrat governer who presented himself as "progressive" attended to his animal urges in NJ Turnpike bathrooms...."

Posted by: cee at March 11, 2008 11:12 AM

DANG CEE! How could I forget, Father McGreevey. Remember, he's going to some sort of school to become one.

I wonder how many NJ Zombies will be sending their kids to him?

Interesting fact. Since the 'Gay American' left office and became true to his beau.

The state has had to close rest stops on I-295, I-80, and I-287!!

Buisness dropped off that much?

Who knew Jimmy was such a busy man back in the day?

Things are tough all over in NJ.

Factor...Anon has nothing because McCain's first wife, Carol, has only made very limited comments about this difficult time in her life and never supported the hateful accustions made by the hypocritical left. Her endorcement of McCain in 2000 speaks volumes that anon would rather ignore....here is a pretty complete evaluation of the time period in question.....

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B02EFDF1439F934A15751C0A9669C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

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McCain's stellar biography and great political rise despite personal challenges infuriates leftists like anon who still has a leading candidate not properly vetted....Obamessiah.....Both HRC and McCain have been under the microscope and they present themselves properly vetted....ready to challenge eachother on policy and leadership potential....Obamessiah?....The links to Nation of Islam, links to radicals and criminals in Chicago and lack of information regarding his personal life before his marriage will likely yield headlines....

So, just remember where anon is coming from...an insecure place about a corporate supported "progressive" who has only 2 years of national political exposure and not well vetted....I am sure trying to keep embarassing items hush-hush at all costs.....

we will see what happens.

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I don't know News, this could be tough.

He's up against 'Mr. Dial Has Something To Say.'

Where did they pick this SPECIAL jury?

Out of a short bus?

And, we already know about Foley, Craig and (Mary) Cheney.

posted by philby

None of these people prosecuted prostitutes all the while hiring them on a regular basis with tax payers money. See the difference?

Oh my....the progressive democrat governer who I am sure relies on scientific data regarding disease and it's transmission through sexual activity was not a good boy!.....

"Client 9, according to another woman associated with the Emperor's Club, 'would ask you to do things that, like, you might not think were safe.' There was no elaboration."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/10/spitzer-as-client-9-read_n_90787.html

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How rational thought goes to the side when passion is involved, eh leftists?....It sure is nice to see our pious leftists practicing what they preach.....

safe sex!

as they deride abstaining from such activity as impractical.....now I know why.

What about his wife's safety? What about the prostitute's safety?....Oh my!

Cee:

I believe you to be generally dishonest and completely disreputable. I can't prove that beyond a reasonable doubt.

I also believe you to be as dense as petrified wood. That is easy to prove. If Clinton were to become the nominee of the Democratic party and Bloomberg does not run as a third party candidate, I intend to vote for McCain. And, my vote would count for something, because I have honestly and objectively sized the man up. My decision is not a groupie-like,take off your tube top and wave your ample man boobs about hero worship based upon trite PR blurbs. He is flawed. He may nonetheless be the best choice.

So, as far as I am concerned, you can blow your crackpot crap out your piehole.

But, take comfort in maintaining your record. You have failed to provide anything of value, yet again to the readers.

If you will note, the point of my original post was to try to discern the indiscernible bases for the instant and harsh moral and ethical judgments you and the other members of the Gang of Five make. You have answered that question. Beyond the whining and wailing, we simply have simple self-serving faux political orthodoxy. Character and integrity mean nothing to any of you.

As such, you ought to stop the sodomy chorus. Since character and integrity mean nothing to you, your sodomy concerns are as false as your protestations of the legitimacy of your cult. Or, go on stage with your moral and ethial equal, Newt Gingrich. I am sure it will be vaudeville reborn. Without the substance, of course.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/03/11/abc-comprehensive-history-lesson-name-party

Here is a lesson in the MSM's interesting trend to not tell the people what party a politician caught in a scandal belongs too unless he is a republican

Don't push it with Foley and Craig, Jeff. We all know better. Even as dumb as you are, you do too. Ted Haggard all over again.

As for Mary Cheney, more of an amusement, to be sure .... The evil emperor's twisted personal life. Our disdain for him ought not be directed at her, although the ease with which all of the upright and uptight Gang of Five justify her personal life is --- so very entertaining.

The self proclaimed sophisticated anonymous poster has once again shown the reason for his obsessiion with some posters here at OW.....his drive to show his moral superiority over his own created troglobites (that comes from someone not inclined to judge others)

Wow, I am glad he cleared that up!

How refreshing to have some honesty from you, Rev. Dr. Cee. You should try it more often. I would note, I am not the creator. Merely one who must deal with the creatures.

wow, you guys really ARE the #1 Keith Olbermann blog in the world, or at least on Google. Cool! (Don't count wiki or msnbc links, of course). Go OW! This really must drive Olbermann nuts, too funny!!!!

There are only two kinds of Keith Olbermann fan boards-those that have gone out of business and those that will. The real Keith Olbermann is an opportunistic asshole who'd sell his own mother if he thought it would get him better ratings. If Fox was liberal, he'd be just to the right of Rush Limbaugh.

http://jason.urban-fated.net/

Now if this is the anonymous that used to spell his name with cap's and spaced out, and I think it is, as it isn't possible to have two holier than thou humans on this planet who are also so obsessed with spelling, even to the point that when he does misspell something as he did below:

That's what I thought. A deviant enabler. You were it well, Cee.

he must repost it 4 times to cover up the "were" with wear.

Yes, this certainly is my little obnoxious "better than thou" cell who has always served me well, and his lies have carried him through most conversations, and his latest of saying he will vote for McCain is just another.

Wasn't too long ago I remember him saying something to the fact that after one of my fellow Muslim Obama's victory speech, that he thought it so inspiring and touched his very soul and how he was so happy to be voting for him.

Of course this anonymous (spaced and with cap's) could have been lying then or now, but it is to his credit that he only deceives with all his catch phrases and highly "intelligent" conversations...and to be sure...when it comes to entertainment there is nobody out there that does it as well as he does.

Keep it up my little cherub, as your thorough dislike of all things good and American has kept me strong.

Your term of the "Gang of five" also is right on, as it is these five that we must always keep our guard up for, as they have always taken the side of America first before anything else, and something we must put an end to.

I know you will not let me down!

Akuba!!! Ayeee!!!!

Sorry, fraud.

Wrong poster. Wrong IP address. Wrong nation. Wrong continent.

Our daily dose of Liberal Hypocrisy blended with a dash of idiocy from philby.

As for Mary Cheney, more of an amusement, to be sure .... The evil emperor's twisted personal life. Our disdain for him ought not be directed at her, although the ease with which all of the upright and uptight Gang of Five justify her personal life is --- so very entertaining.

Posted by: at March 11, 2008 12:04 PM

Funny! I said the same thing many months ago.

Clinton-backer Ferraro: Obama Where He Is Because He's Black
March 11, 2008 7:30 AM

Clinton campaign finance committee member, former vice presidential candidate, and former Rep. Geraldine Ferraro, D-NY, told the Daily Breeze of Torrance, Ca., that, "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

Hah! Hah! Hah!

Send him to Iowa and Kansas next. Looks like grain futures are going through the roof now.

Bush and Stagflation. What a pair!

Our daily dose of Liberal Hypocrisy blended with a dash of idiocy ----

You don't know the meaning of "hypocrisy," do you. whatever your name is this week? No surprise, since there are so many gaps in your education and knowledge. Many valid criticisms could be made of my comments, some rather serious, but hypocrisy isn't one such criticism. As a general rule, when a truly stupid person uses a word he or she doesn't know, he or she looks even more stupid. In your case, I didn't know that was possible.

By the way, I have never used the name "Philby". I assume you mean the linguist and not the spy, however? Is that correct, whatever your name is this afternoon?

Posted by: Bush Thinks Cheney Visit Will Lower Oil Prices at March 11, 2008 2:01 PM

Maybe he can send you silly ass and you can CAPITALIZE and EXCLAMATION POINT them into lowering oil prices. We certainly would want to build any new oil refineries or drill for oil. We might upset a caribou.

I have been as successful in lowering oil prices as Cheney and anyone else in the Bush Administration.

Funny! I said the same thing many months ago.

I'd like to verify that. What name were you using then?

What name were you using then?

Posted by: at March 11, 2008 2:35 PM

After you.....ma'am.

Not a single loon has called Ferraro a racist. When I made the same claim, I was a racist. Olbyloon Hypocrisy? Indeed.

"Don't push it with Foley and Craig, Jeff. We all know better. Even as dumb as you are, you do too. Ted Haggard all over again.

As for Mary Cheney, more of an amusement, to be sure .... The evil emperor's twisted personal life. Our disdain for him ought not be directed at her, although the ease with which all of the upright and uptight Gang of Five justify her personal life is --- so very entertaining.

Posted by: at March 11, 2008 12:04 PM "

Having been designated a member of the 'Gang of Five' some time back I guess I am still a member in good standing and as such have a question for you, chicken blogger. I don't remember making any comments about any of the above figures so could you please tell me what it is that I said/believe?

I would hate to be hypocritical if I were to make any comments about any of them that contradicted what you have claimed as mine.

Grammie

"After you.....ma'am.

Posted by: olby SUCKS at March 11, 2008 3:07 PM "

I nominate this comment as The OW Quote of the Month.

Grammie

What name were you using then?

It was a simple question. You must never have made the statement.

---

I don't remember making any comments about any of the above figures so could you please tell me what it is that I said/believe?

I do think you praise Reagan at least as often as the Pope does God. In any event, have you criticized the others? Isn't that a better question?

Janet, the anonyloons are just slinging accusations w/not a shred of proof, as usual. They are doing their best to stay away from any and all things Spitzy. The hypocrite of the decade, by far. Olby is right up there w/Spitzy, too.

Liberal philosophy, rule #1(which is why I LOVE the liberals!):

If you vote against Obama (no matter what the reason) you are a racist anti-American.

If you vote for Obama (no matter what the reason) you are a well educated clear thinking lover of America.

Liberal philosophy, rule #2:

If you vote against McCain ( no matter what the reason) you are a well educated clear thinking lover of America.

If you vote for McCain (no matter what the reason) you are a fear mongering white supremist, hate filled anti-American.

Only in your country can a man who endured 5 years of torture because of his love for America be deemed an evil American, while a man who surrounds himself with true anti-Americans (Farrakhan, his reverend and his wife "I have never been proud of America" and "the poverty level in this country is disgraceful" (while her salary exceeds $140 a year)...Michelle Obama...is exhaulted as the candidate of "change."

"Change" indeed, and only for the worse, and when it is said that the muslims around the world will be dancing in the streets if he is elected, I would have to say that that is an understatement to be sure!

Allah willing that he does win the nomination, and the problems you think you have now will be a drop in the camel's bucket!

Mass chaos in Iraq from the American troops pulling out! A complete country turned over to my loyal terrorists!

Nobody to prevent my all out war against your country, while I will have a country to move freely about and to do my bidding for me instead of being secluded in this cave. Not in the thousands that I have now, but in the millions!

Oil prices will go to such highs that for all intents and purposes the American way of life will be knocked back two hundred years where the only form of transportation will be on horse and buggy!

Yes my small and naive liberals my day is coming, and much much louder than you could ever imagine if my sabe Obama is elected! Allah willing. Allah willing!!!!

Akuba!!! Ayeee!!!!!

I condemned Spitzer immediately. Do you righties have anything on your side except denial and lies, lies and denial?

As usual, you have not answered the first question, so I am sure you won't answer the one either.

Denial and lies, lies and denial. A bit of evading military service, too, but I'' just focus on the lies and denial, denial and lies.

"I do think you praise Reagan at least as often as the Pope does God. In any event, have you criticized the others? Isn't that a better question?

Posted by: at March 11, 2008 3:21 PM"

What has Ronaldus Magnificus got to do with your statement as fact of my words and beliefs re the four other than RR that you mentioned?

I do believe I have not discussed them in any capacity here so, I ask again, what did I say and what opinion did I express in your fantasy?

Grammie

Hey, Dingbat, when have you ever done anything other than nod in agreement anytime the other members of your gang rip some Democratic person to shreds for doing far less, for leading more exemplary lives than those mentioned? I go back to my original questions: On what moral or ethical basis do these reprobates get a pass?

"I condemned Spitzer immediately"

Under which name did this happen?

A scumbag, prostitute using public servant who wanted to reward illegal activity by handing out licenses to the lawless can't crack Olberhack's unfunny "worst person" BS. Why doesn't he just change the title of his bit to "persons who don't think like me or work for networks that people actually watch"?

Sersiously, the fact that Spitzer doesn't make the list speaks volumes about the list's maker, doesn't it?

Seriously, the fact that Spitzer doesn't make the list speaks volumes about the list's maker, doesn't it?

Posted by: Max Power at March 11, 2008 4:07 PM

What do you expect from a socialist orange faced hack who is #4 out of 4 every night? Integrity? Honesty? Professionalism? Won't happen on Planet Olby. Nor will his fearless followers, the 3 stooges, make a peep on the subject.

If this dosen't show Keith Olbermann bias for the Dems I don't know what will.

Dearie me.....Mr. blank-FLUCKER (cue OLD SPICE jingle), anon, A N O N Y M O U S or whatever he/she has decided to label the spew today seems only to be happy to have such events like the democrat progressive governor's deviancy becoming public because he can then wait and respond to his "gang of five."

Please look at my first response, anon.....my reaction was, like to Foley and Craig, to the reaction of the political class....especially the left who is so full of understanding and sympathy for the progressive yet....ah.....well....we all know how they respond to others with different worldviews....

I also, as a supporter of John McCain, expressed happiness about the distraction value the democrat progressive governor's illegal acts has....

I have been consistent and I am sure some others on this board disagree with my opinions about these fine men (the adulterous sodomite, Foley, Craig, etc.), including Grammie and the other frequent posters, and I respect their different views...

Your view, anon is simply one of a fool who gets strange pleasure out of trying (and failing) to peg people....keep it up...it is entertaining.

Keith went easy on Spitzer because it was a private matter...

Could this be grounds for the first ever (d) to make the wpitw list?

Clinton-backer Ferraro: Obama Where He Is Because He's Black
March 11, 2008 7:30 AM

Clinton campaign finance committee member, former vice presidential candidate, and former Rep. Geraldine Ferraro, D-NY, told the Daily Breeze of Torrance, Ca., that, "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

I heard that Obama's campaign is calling for a repudiation and dismissal of Geraldine Ferrraro for racism by the Clinton Campaign.

That does present some here at OW a conumdrumn b/c many Libs/Dems here attacked anyone who had anything other than whole hearted support for Obama as being racist. I recall that Sharon and I were called racists b/c we both agreed that Harold Ford was equally as appealing and attractive personally as Barack Obama but had much more depth.

What will KO do tonight?

Does he let Ferraro's vicious, hateful slur against Obama go unmentioned b/c she is a lib/dem or does he break virgin ground and name a lib/dem WPITW?

Grammie

Where do people like Cecelia, Cee, Grammie Janet, Sharon and you get this crap? Are you all some sort of relativist degenerates yourselves or do you merely enable degenerate behavior in others? Yet, you do this because you are upstanding, decent, God-fearing, America-loving people? You all leave me in a sense of amazement for your relativism and awe for your unbelieavble gall.

Posted by: at March 11, 2008 7:42 AM

Well, I don't know why. It shouldn't be THAT difficult for you to understand that Elliot Spitzer, a guy who prosecuted other people for breaking the law, didn't do something "possibly even illegal", he did some very much illegal...

You're arguing that there's no difference between breaking the law (or in the case of sexual deviance-- with contracting for sex with a total stranger) than with someone falling out of love with a spouse and in love with someone else. THAT is the very definition of moral "relativism! (I suppose the irony that these men all MARRIED rather than merely PAID their lovers is lost on you...)

However, we all know that what you really want to suggest is that because human nature knows no political party, that your political opponents don't have any grounds for criticizing others. You want to suggest this while exempting yourself from that same standard.

I'd tell you to go get a more sophisticated argument but you'd have to have some insight first.

Have you dullards consider that we've got bigger fish to fry as a country that a regional hooker scandal?

You know, let's say there was a Pentagon study being released to Congress this week that debunks the idea that there ever was any kind of connection between Saddam and Al-Queda:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/29959.html

Whoops. Maybe *that's* news.

Have you dullards consider that we've got bigger fish to fry as a country that a regional hooker scandal?

You know, let's say there was a Pentagon study being released to Congress this week that debunks the idea that there ever was any kind of connection between Saddam and Al-Queda:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/29959.html

Whoops. Maybe *that's* news.
Posted by: broadsword at March 11, 2008 8:04 PM

We'll remember these words the next time that there's a "regional hooker scandal" with a Republican, Bobo.
Human nature being what it is, I'm sure there will be.

However, when THAT time comes, you will then not only be using multitudinous bandwidth on the subject, but also arguing that "sin" and human failing is uniquely Republican.

Since you haven't been banned, you probably have 4000 or so of such posts (of the 6000 posts you blessed us with this past year) in the archives already. When the time comes, feel free just to go ahead and cut and paste one of THEM.

I'm sure that's how you came to post it in the first place, anyway.

"Whoops. Maybe *that's* news.

Posted by: broadsword at March 11, 2008 8:04 PM "

Dull Blade, exactly who ever claimed that Iraq/Hussein was directly connected to Al Qaeda/911? No one that I recall? Wishing does not make it so.

I do, however, have a vivid memory of politicians from both sides of the aisle, many world leaders, Intelligence Agemcies from the West to the East and all points in between agreeing for 12 years that Iraq/Saddam was or had acquired WMDs and that he had violated the Gulf War One Cease Fire daily.

I have not commented on Spitzer for the simple reason that it is just one more example of the foibles of mankind, whether they be far right, far left or anywhere in between. When they are caught out the system will deal with them without waiting with bated breath for my opinion about it.

If their actions are immoral and illegal or simply immoral will be taken into account by those authorized to handle the situation.

Why are you so hung up on it?

Grammie

Why are you so hung up on it?

Grammie

Posted by: Janet Hawkins at March 11, 2008 8:18 PM

Professional courtesy...

You know, let's say there was a Pentagon study being released to Congress this week that debunks the idea that there ever was any kind of connection between Saddam and Al-Queda:
Posted by: broadsword at March 11, 2008 8:04 PM

There was not OPERATIONAL connection liar. Iraq officials still had meetings with Al-Queda. Iraq still funded and aided other terrorist. A lie of omission is still a lie.

This one known as Grammie I could use on my side. Smart, to the point, and recognizes any deceptive tactics (broadsword) used by my cells.

Her response to the very inept broadsword:

"Dull Blade, exactly who ever claimed that Iraq/Hussein was directly connected to Al Qaeda/911? No one that I recall? Wishing does not make it so.

I do, however, have a vivid memory of politicians from both sides of the aisle, many world leaders, Intelligence Agemcies from the West to the East and all points in between agreeing for 12 years that Iraq/Saddam was or had acquired WMDs and that he had violated the Gulf War One Cease Fire daily."

has now caused me some concern, as to whether or not to continue to use him as one of my sleeper cells. The fact that this Grammie so easily shot him down makes me feel that he is no longer of any use for me.

Perhaps, I could use him to shovel camel dung from my cave. After all, he is very adept at all forms of animal waste, but his deceptive ways certainly need a refresher course.

Akuba!!! Ayeee!!!!

Osama bin Laden, you do know how to turn a, ah hem, girl's head, don't you?:):)

Dull Blade, you could take some lessons from OBL and the guaranteed improvement in your love life prospects might cut down on some of that radical leftist animosity you so liberally sling around.

Grammie

"Dull Blade, exactly whoever claimed that Iraq/Hussein as directly connected to Al Qeada/911? No one that I recall. ishing does not make it so."

Uh.....MANY on this very blog have made that EXACT claim....including a certain servicemember who claimed to be in Iraq whom I got into it with a few months back....Sharon would certainly remember him if no one else cares to.

But more to the point...many in the administration certainly IMPLIED it over and over and over and over and over again....to the point that as late as the 2004 election, a mojority of Americans still believed it was true.

Intentional deception of the American People that stopped just short of an outright lie may be defensible in your book....but it certainly isn't in mine!

Did Keith just call President Bush a "whore" during the "Worst Person" segment? Did anybody catch that?

Whoops. Maybe *that's* news.

Posted by: broadsword at March 11, 2008 8:04 PM

But when it was about Craig your sorry ass was all over it. Right? Right.

"Intentional deception of the American People that stopped just short of an outright lie may be defensible in your book....but it certainly isn't in mine!

Posted by: Mike at March 11, 2008 9:07 PM"

Mkie, I don't care who thought they heard what WAS NOT SAID! I followed this very closely from day one and the only impression I garnered was that to the degree that 'terrorism is fungible' so might Iraq/Saddam have some tenuous connection to UBL and 911.

We heard from every politician of any import from both sides of the aisle for a dozen years that Iraq/Saddam was developing/had WMDs.

We heard the same thing, sometimes in even stronger terms than from the GWB admin, from admins around the world.

We heard from a multitude of Intelligence Agencies, in even stronger terms sometimes, from every type of government (Western, Eastern and Islamic) that Iraq/Saddam had or was close to having WMDs.

I contend that with the overwhelming consensus, even though that consensus was eventually proved wrong, about Iraq/ Hussein it would have been a derleection of duty of any government, to ignore it.

People and governments can only act on the information at hand. and the conclusion they glean from that info.

So in the 1930s (and for Stalin up to the summer of 1941) Chamberlain and Stalin disastrously misread and drastically under estimated Hitler while Churchill and Roosevelt (to a lesser degree) understood the true threat.

Personally, I prefer to err on the side of the Churchhills and Roosevelts of this world rather than the Chamberlains and Stalins. If you disagree that is your right, of course, but don't accuse others of lying.

Grammie

To the one known as Grammie

It is quite amazing to me in how most of my liberal cells are just so bitter to be living in a country that gives them everything.

To how they never appreciate anything your country gives them, and to how the hatred spews out in so many ways.

The hatred coming from me I can understand, as it is this freedom that you Americans indulge in like it is their Allah given right that I would love to have, but why their bitterness?

Why the hatred at all costs towards their own country, in quotes I see above from this Mike and of course my most famous cell Olbermann?

Why the bitterness towards their leaders while I am just a forgotten memory? Especially the bitterness to the leader who has never given up in his fight against my fellow terrorists, and to how they seem to enjoy in attacking him over me?

Quite strange this country you live in where the ones who have the most attack the ones who do all they can to defend it for them.

Not that I'm complaining you see, because if it wasn't for the ones known as why, slob, mike, anonymous and of course my trusted traitor to all of America..olbermann...I wouldn't be a tenth as strong as I am now.

Of course I know the responses will be that your president helped slaughter 3500 soldiers in the "supposed war" he invented with my terrorists, and that is what I thrive on and expect to hear from the traitors that are on my side throughout this jihad.

For without them I would be stuck in this cave until I die.

Obama Hussein! Victory come November, and we are halfway there!!!

Akuba!!! Ayeee!!!!!

"Uh.....MANY on this very blog have made that EXACT claim....including a certain servicemember who claimed to be in Iraq whom I got into it with a few months back....Sharon would certainly remember him if no one else cares to.

...............

Posted by: Mike at March 11, 2008 9:07 PM "

I don't remember anyone here saying that Saddam Hussein was directly behind/involved in 911.

Of course, I may have missed it so I would appreciate your providing the citations to back your claim up.

Grammie

Mike-
they implied it or people inferred it?

Mike,

I looked up what CJ said and you remembered incorrectly. He did not say that there was a direct link:

"Saddam Hussein's government paid more than $35,000 to Ansar al Islam and provided vehicles and tactical support to the group in their fight against the semi-autonomous Kurds, whom Saddam loathed. Whether Saddam knew or not that he was indirectly supporting AQ through Ansar al-Islam (I believe he did, but just personal opinion) isn't the point. We took out Saddam because he was supporting terrorists who were supporting AQ and that's the link!! AQ WAS in Iraq and they were actively training there before the invasion. And if they weren't, we were justified to go in there anywhere simply because of their support to AAI."

. . .

Posted by: CJ at May 2, 2007 12:50 AM

Take a walk down memory lane with some notable quotes from the CJ exchange:

. . .and I totally agree with with Sir Loin who says;"CJ's rationalizations make no more sense coming from a soldier than they do from a chickenhawk president or a right-wing talking head.

. . .

Posted by: Bob at April 30, 2007 7:26 PM

Anon, you're right! I don't care what your name is. I, for one, appreciate the term "chickenhawk". After all the definition of a chickenhawk is "Any of various hawks that prey on or have the reputation of preying on chickens." I'll count you as prey, my friend.

. . .
Posted by: CJ at April 30, 2007 7:41 PM

VOK, [FLUCKER et al] I was pretty clear when I said that I had been spit at only ONCE. It's not a common thing, but it happens, especially during the "peace" or "anti-war" rallies. Nothing to be suspicious of. However, if it happens again (and the guys is still walking) I'll save the spit for you as evidence to belay your suspicious nature.
Posted by: CJ at May 1, 2007 1:29 PM

FOR YOU, CECELIA

Again, I don't feel like either situation makes a compelling case for much of anything.

Posted by: Cecelia at May 1, 2007 5:44 PM

DAMMIT! You've forced me to agree with you!
Posted by: Sir Loin of Beef at May 1, 2007 6:22 PM

Olby Sucks,

Do you agree that there is nothing like taking on "progressives" on their own websites?

"Mike-
they implied it or people inferred it?

Posted by: Poor Baby at March 11, 2008 10:20 PM "

This is only the impression that I have gotten from Mike so I could very well be wrong.

However, I do think that any inference, right or wrong, made by him and those who agree with him becomes prima facie evidence that the imagined implication is chiseled in stone fact.

As you say, Poor Baby.

Grammie

mike is crankin' up the spin machine. This oughta be good! Then again, he may just disappear for a few days to let the dust settle.

Rico, I agree, agree, gree, ree, re, e.....

Last one:

First of all show me where there wasn't "respected"...and this guy could be ANYONE.
You DO know that Sharon ?

I'm not going to bow at this feet like you...especially when he's speaking a small minority opinion...kinda like you.

Posted by Why Do You Care What My Name is at May 1, 2007 7:04 PM

Oh, the irony! CJ could be ANYONE! The guy uses his full name, posts photos of himself and his wife and children, has chronicled his life story, tells where he is stationed, ... All available for anyone's view on A Soldier's Perspective. What do we have on OW? Trolls! Okay, Me done now.

The POINT Janet, is that this administration SHOULD have made certain the record was corrected, rather than allow the public to wallow in ignorance as it did.....and then even benefit from it.

Truth is not our enemy.

"Then again, he may just disappear for a few days to let the dust settle."

What dust?

I usually "disappear" out of sheer boredom.

"Then again, he may just disappear for a few days to let the dust settle."

What dust?

I usually "disappear" out of sheer boredom.

Wow,keith spent most of the his show talking about the stupid Ferraro comment.

Both Hillary and Obama's camp are saying stupid things. If they fire everybody that keeps opening their mouth, both camps won't have a person left.

Keith is using his little rated show to try to get rid of Hillary with any ammunition he can get his Obama loving hands on, so his man can have the nomination.

The worst person segment was weak and it just shows Keith uses that as a tool to attack Republicans in the dumbest ways.

Keith said NY politicians should not call to impeach Spitzer, they should just let him quit.

Doesn't he realize the NY politicians are just putting pressure on Spitzer to make sure he does quit, come Keith you're smarter then that, no?

And maybe Keith doesn't follow the news but Spitzer hasn't resigned yet, so the "they should just let him quit" line is making Keith look like he's not even following the story.

Keith stated that Bush broke the constitution and lied but didn't provide any evidence.

And lets be honest here Bush isn't the most loved person, but if there is evidence that he broke the law, he would have been impeached a long time ago.

The Democrats aren't stupid, if they had something on Bush they would have presented it, but they don't.

"Then again, he may just disappear for a few days to let the dust settle."

What dust?

I usually "disappear" out of sheer boredom.

Excuse the accidental triple post that answered nothing ith nothing....there was an error message that caused it.

Spitzer should resign... right after Vitter does.

"but if there is evidence that he broke the law. He would have been impeached a long time ago."

How could he break a law when he makes a signing statement to accompany each law he signs stating the laws don't apply to him?

It fascinates me how so many, but seeming far more on the right than on the left, confuse legality with ethics and morality.
They seem to be saying 'just because something is legal, it must be OK'.

I couldn't disagree more!

Mike,

Then you must agree that something be illegal but not immoral.

....[can] be illegal

"Then you agree that something be illegal but not immoral."

If you are stating that everything that is illegal is not necessarily immoral...I tend to agree.

Spitzer should resign... right after Vitter does.

^

Or, he could resign, then take it back, like Craig.

I was glad to see Ms. Spitzer dressed appropriately. No slinkly animal print street professional clothes for her.

"The POINT Janet, is that this administration SHOULD have made certain the record was corrected, rather than allow the public to wallow in ignorance as it did.....and then even benefit from it.

Truth is not our enemy.

Posted by: Mike at March 11, 2008 10:52 PM "

Mike, that is a lame response to the points I made.

How does one correct the record if the record was never made? No one in the Bush admin ever said that Iraq/Hussein was linked to 911. GWB and those in his admin's words were virtually indistinguisable from BJC, Algore, HRC, Rockefeller, Albright etc.

Why are you so set on the idea that after more than a decade from Clinton's admin , his officials, and many other admins around the world declaring the exact same thing that suddenly everything was a lie after GWB became President?

Do you honestly believe that in the nine months before 911 and the year after that GWB suddenly had THE TRUTH rained upon him and ignored and stiffled it even though his predecessors and all the countries that we shared info with continued on with their exact same evaluation of the situation?

I say again "Personally, I prefer to err on the side of the Churchhills and Roosevelts of this world rather than the Chamberlains and Stalins. If you disagree that is your right, of course, but don't accuse others of lying."

Grammie

I was glad to see Ms. Spitzer dressed appropriately. No slinkly animal print street professional clothes for her.

Posted by: at March 11, 2008 11:22 PM

And that's what is most important, right, philby? Not that he spent $80,000 of taxpayers dollars on whores? On another note, I love it when O'Reilly puts huffpo and the other far leftists hypocrisy front and center.

"Dull Blade, exactly whoever claimed that Iraq/Hussein as directly connected to Al Qeada/911? No one that I recall. Wishing does not make it so."

Uh.....MANY on this very blog have made that EXACT claim....including a certain servicemember who claimed to be in Iraq whom I got into it with a few months back....Sharon would certainly remember him if no one else cares to.

posted by mike

"Saddam Hussein's government paid more than $35,000 to Ansar al Islam and provided vehicles and tactical support to the group in their fight against the semi-autonomous Kurds, whom Saddam loathed. Whether Saddam knew or not that he was indirectly supporting AQ through Ansar al-Islam (I believe he did, but just personal opinion) isn't the point. We took out Saddam because he was supporting terrorists who were supporting AQ and that's the link!! AQ WAS in Iraq and they were actively training there before the invasion. And if they weren't, we were justified to go in there anywhere simply because of their support to AAI."

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Posted by: CJ at May 2, 2007 12:50 AM

Janet, what was 'distinquisable' from the ords of BJC, Algore, and others you mentioned as that this president was so willing to act using something so grave and irreversable as ground warfare and occupation based on unreliable and unverifiable information that did not represent any imminent threat even if the worst HAD turned out to be true.

The day they invaded....my actual thoughts were that they had BETTER be right about the WMD's, or there would surely be political hell to pay.

I still find it hard to believe that I was so wrong about that.

Also, I suspect many, if not most of those that you and others continually use as an excuse for an occupation based on words you charcterize as 'indistinquisable' are pretty much horrified at the comparison, since I'm willing to bet none of them would have themselves followed the same disastrous course of action.

It is rather scary that the New York liberals would elect such a dense moron for governor who would not have the brains to hide his actions from his own drag nets. How could this man be so stupid, that he would pay these hookers by an easily traceable wire transfer?
It shows us all why liberals are so foolish as to be bamboozled by the rock 'n roll racist fraud Obamanation and two corrupt Arkansas thieves.

OLby S**ks, I see you are once again reduced to repeating someone ELSE"S argument, instead of coming up with one of your own.

I DISAGREE with your assesment that "CJ" didn't make the claim. The statement you just COPIED proved my point to my satisfaction. That's why I didn't respond to it.

However, as usual, I DO respect Sharon's opinions and interpretations.....unlike yours!

"How could this man be so stupid, that he would pay these hookers by an easily traceable wait transfer."

It sounds like you are more offended by his 'stupidity' than you are by his immorality.

Why would I expect more?

How funny is it that Geraldine Ferraro speaks the truth and Keith Olbermann calls her a racist? Geraldine Ferraro should know better than to speak the truth. She is a liberal. Geraldine Ferraro is actually one of the more honorable liberals. No wonder Keith threw her under the bus.

It sounds like you are more offended by his 'stupidity' than you are by his immorality.

Why would I expect more?

Posted by: Mike at March 11, 2008 11:53 PM

He is a politician and a liberal one at that. His immorality is no surprise to me. What scares me is his stupidity. This is a man who ran a state prone to terrorist attacks.

"How funny is it that Geraldine Ferraro speaks the truth and Keith Olbermann calls her a racist."

It's not funny at all because what she said is hardly "the truth".

Maybe you should confront your own prejudices head on if you really believe what she stated was "the truth".

"It shows us all why liberals are so foolish as to be bamboozled by the rock 'n' roll racist fraud Obamanation"...

You keep forgetting that the most educated demographic in the country are the ones being "bamboozled".

No one's being "bamboozled"....You see, it's the smarter Americans who are very much aware that major changes are in fact necessary if this country is going to survive.

Maybe you should confront your own prejudices head on if you really believe what she stated was "the truth".

Posted by: Mike at March 12, 2008 12:09 AM

Oh really? Where exactly would Obamanation be now if he were a white man or white woman? In the Illinois State House.

"Oh really? Where exactly would Obamanation be now if he were a white man or white woman? In the Illinois State House."

Got any proof, other than your own OBVIOUS prejudice, that will back up your ridiculous opinion?

You keep forgetting that the most educated demographic in the country are the ones being "bamboozled".
Posted by: Mike at March 12, 2008 12:15 AM

I know you are a fascist Mike and that is why you keep trotting out this tired argument that all the "good Germans" are voting for Obama, but I am sure the Spitz is very well educated, and look at the intelligent decisions he made. Educated people can be hoodwinked also.

Time to play 'Connect The Dopes' er I mean dots w/ Glenn Beck.

Yes Keith is in it.

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=60754

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"Uh.....MANY on this very blog have made that EXACT claim....including a certain servicemember who claimed to be in Iraq whom I got into it with a few months back....Sharon would certainly remember him if no one else cares to."

posted by mike

Did they talk about this on Countdown tonight?

Oh wait, maybe because somebody got let out of that little room again they might be trying to play catch up or is this just another episode of........

Change The Subject!!!!!!!!

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It sounds like you are more offended by his 'stupidity' than you are by his immorality.

Why would I expect more?

Posted by: Mike at March 11, 2008 11:53 PM

You know back in the day when I use to work in the service industry. Okay, it was a deli job part time while I was going to School.

They use to bring in the folks from the Mental Hospital down the street. there was one nut, He thought he was a doctor and thought that he knew what he was talking about. He was pretty funny.

Hi Mike!!!!!!!!

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"Then you agree that something be illegal but not immoral."

If you are stating that everything that is illegal is not necessarily immoral...I tend to agree.

Posted by: Mike at March 11, 2008 11:15 PM

WHAT?

Oh yeah, After a hard week I like to kick back stick a Hoe on the Amtrak. Meet up with her at a 'five star'. Get my freak on.

Hey it's a private thing!!!!

The wifes down with it. It's cool.

Oh and the kids? Ah! if they don't get whats going on, daddy's a big wheel and we'll just put them in therapy until they get their minds right.

Can't be messin' with daddy's power trip. Little brats.

Mike, just how many little bulbs are burnt out upstairs?

You preach this crap to you're kids? They down with that?

Think your missing a combo on the meds dude.

"I know you are a fascist Mike"

What a hoot you are!

You don't even know what a "fascist" is.

Got any proof, other than your own OBVIOUS prejudice, that will back up your ridiculous opinion?

Posted by: Mike at March 12, 2008 12:20 AM

Go ask Ferraro.

I can't believe my luck! ANOTHER hoot chimes with terminal inanity at 12:25 AM!

Puck, has it ever occured to you that YOU are one of the best arguments I know of for liberalism?

No....of course it hasn't! It would require having something upstairs for you to recognize that.

Got any proof, other than your own OBVIOUS prejudice, that will back up your ridiculous opinion?

Posted by: Mike at March 12, 2008 12:20 AM

The proof is in Obamanations light resume. Identity politics is all the Democrats got that and attacking their favorite straw men.

You keep forgetting that the most educated demographic in the country are the ones being "bamboozled".

No one's being "bamboozled"....You see, it's the smarter Americans who are very much aware that major changes are in fact necessary if this country is going to survive.

Posted by: Mike at March 12, 2008 12:15 AM

Tha same ones that cheer loudly when obama blows his nose?

"The proof is in Obamanations light reume."

Wrong again!

Smarter Americans have seen what "experience" has done for America.

A new approach is needed.

Old Washington fogey's with tired old reumes full of the same repeated mistakes need not apply.

No one's being "bamboozled"....You see, it's the smarter Americans who are very much aware that major changes are in fact necessary if this country is going to survive.

Posted by: Mike at March 12, 2008 12:15 AM

Oh great, now Mike thinks he's one of 'The Planners'.

Hitler thought the world needed MAJOR changes.

He got the trains to run on time.

But then there was that problem with the jews. And the Pols, and the Brits..........

No one's being "bamboozled"....You see, it's the smarter Americans who are very much aware that major changes are in fact necessary if this country is going to survive.

Posted by: Mike at March 12, 2008 12:15 AM

From the man who has MAJOR ISSUES upstairs.

Old Washington fogey's with tired old reumes full of the same repeated mistakes need not apply.

Posted by: Mike at March 12, 2008 12:37 AM

Yes only people who can read the buzz words "hope" and "change" off a teleprompter from a speech that one of their friends wrote need apply.

"From the man who has MAJOR ISSUES upstairs"

Well, I'll take the challenge any day of comparing my posts to your cartoonish posts and let an impartial audience decide who actually has "MAJOR ISSUES" upstairs.

As I've already said, I can't think of a better argument for liberalism than one of your posts.

"Hitler thought the world needed MAJOR changes."

And who exactly are you accusing of advocating genocide with your dead end argument?

Liberalism is a mental disorder. Which is why obamaloons cheer uncontrollably when he blows his nose!

It fascinates me how so many, but seeming far more on the right than on the left, confuse legality with ethics and morality.
They seem to be saying 'just because something is legal, it must be OK'.

I couldn't disagree more!

Posted by: Mike at March 11, 2008 11:09 PM

"it must be ok"

"Ok" is subject to interpretation.
I guess it depends on your definition of OK.
And not everybody has the same ethics and morality. That deserves interpretation too.

It fascinates me how people put labels on others like "right or left" when they don't agree with a point of view.

But so far technically Bush hasn't broken the law and for guys like Keith to say he has broken the law without proof just shows his bias.

We can call Bush a lot of things but so far, we can't call him a law breaker.

"Dull Blade, exactly who ever claimed that Iraq/Hussein was directly connected to Al Qaeda/911? No one that I recall? Wishing does not make it so."

Oh, look - it's a dull butterknife that's cleaving your ignorance of the facts...in two:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RytxVNM0llQ

Who said it, Grammy? WHO SAID IT?

WHO'S IN THAT SEGMENT, GRAMMY?

"Dull Blade, exactly who ever claimed that Iraq/Hussein was directly connected to Al Qaeda/911?"

Is that what you tell yourself when your subconscious realizes that the people you back are a bunch of onerous, lying, heartless, brainless, smugly sanctimonious war criminals?

Google THAT, Cece, you loser.

"Yes only people who can read the buzz ords "hope" and "change" off a teleprompter from a speech one of his friends wrote need apply."

I believe the speech you are referring to was actually a response to criticism about the power of words.

"We can call Bush a lot of things, but so far, we can't call him a law breaker."

Actually, I disagree.

- He broke the law when he approved waterboarding.

- He broke the law when he chose to ignor the FISA law.

But, in a way, you're right. The most dispicable things he has been guilty of were probably technically 'legal'.

"Liberalism is a mental disorder. Which is why Obamaloons cheer uncontrollably when he blows his nose."

I'll ill certainly admit that YOU definitely have an inside look at a "mental disorder".

I'll ill certainly admit that YOU definitely have an inside look at a "mental disorder".

Posted by: Mike at March 12, 2008 1:01 AM

Wow, that doesn't make you look very good, does it? Maybe you should look into a 'self-esteem' class or a self help book. Did you cheer when he blew his nose, too?

I love your country!!!

Only in America can a little man like my Mikey be disgusted by all things "legal."

Then he goes on to say how horrible it is that the one man who has stood in my way from total destruction of his own country... Bush...has done something so terrible by approving "water boarding".

Am I hearing correctly, that to this man Mikey, waterboarding is such a horrible thing, but the out and out torture methods that I use (not to mention as many beheadings as I can get my terrorists to perform) are okay with him?

Allah, I love these traitors!

That's what I always say about these weak liberals. They reap the rewards of their country, and curse the ones who are set to protect them from the likes of me!

The irony never escapes me, and I thank Allah everyday for the likes of Mikey and his fellow traitors!

Put down your country! Take the side of it's enemies at the drop of a hat! Never side with your president, unless it is one who will cut and run from me and all my loyal subjects!

Allah is good, and anything legal is bad!!!

Akuba!!! Ayeeee!!!!

"Did you cheer when he blew his nose, too?"

No I missed that.

I must have been busy watching you make an ass out of yourself on this blog again.

12:52 is one of yours, mike. Be proud, be very proud! More proof that liberalism is a mental disorder.

Let's see; multiple violations of the Hatch Act, he outed a spy (plausible deniability is *not* innocence, and at the very least *his* guys did it, so he's responsible) so there's the Intelligence Identities Protection Act that he broke, too.

The list is long; Cece, why don't you google us all a list of administration lawlessness, cupcake.

"Only in America can a little man like my Mikey be disgusted by all things "legal"."

And only on OW can a "little man like my Mikey" be credited with saying something he absolutely did NOT say.

From the orange faced hacks mouth, to new gals ears, to OW! Gotta love the parrots.

"12:52 is one of yours Mike. Be proud, very proud."

Sorry....it's 1:00 AM, and all of 'mine' are safe and sound,....and fully accounted for.

"Gotta love the parrots."

You mean like "liberalism is a mental disorder"?

"Dull Blade, exactly who ever claimed that Iraq/Hussein was directly connected to Al Qaeda/911? No one that I recall? Wishing does not make it so.""

Oh, WHO said it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYI7JXGqd0o&feature=related

Get an earful. Be sure to watch the whole thing, sweetheart.

Nobody tried to connect Al-Queda to Iraq?

WHO...DO YOU THINK YOU'RE F-ING FOOLING?

WELL? We all await your answer.

The most dispicable things he has been guilty of were probably technically 'legal'.

Posted by: Mike at March 12, 2008 12:57 AM

Mike,

Waterboarding "illegal combatants" is not illegal. Illegal combatants have no rights.

To paraphrase you, "this war is about them, not us".

So don't loose any sleep over the 3 characters who have been waterboarded.

The most dispicable things he has been guilty of were probably technically 'legal'.

Posted by: Mike at March 12, 2008 12:57 AM

Maybe I'm a little behind in the English language, but I'm pretty sure that dispicable means something like disgusting.

..and if that is close enough for you, then the fact still stands that he did do things legally, and to you that is a dispicable.

Only in your country!

Allah be praised!

Akuba!!! Ayeee!!!!

"12:52 is one of yours Mike. Be proud, very proud."

Sorry....it's 1:00 AM, and all of 'mine' are safe and sound,....and fully accounted for.

Posted by: Mike at March 12, 2008 1:20 AM

Not too proud, huh? Nice diversion.

So don't loose any sleep over the 3 characters who have been waterboarded.

Posted by: Rico at March 12, 2008 1:24 AM

Too late, he has. But, he hasn't even thought twice about the brave soldiers that have had their throats cut and much worse defending him.

Sorry....it's 1:00 AM, and all of 'mine' are safe and sound,....and fully accounted for.

Posted by: Mike at March 12, 2008 1:20 AM

Yes they are, and you can thank your cursed president for that!

Akuba!!! Ayeee!!!!

Well, Jeff, I am going to be out of contact for the next three (3) weeks. I have to travel to a couple of places where e-mails and internet activity are closely monitored by the state police and anyone arguing for an EFFECTIVE policy against Al Qaeada and in the war of terror (which necessarily means critcizing Bush) will likely be arrested. One gets use to that in the Middle East, and, all things considered, I am still looking forward to a visit to the States. I haven't been home in 16 months! I may be calling you if I become a political prisoner in Bush's Amerika and get thrown into a black hole prison in California or Kansas.

In my absence, be sure to try to bolster Grammie Janet's self-esteem. I am sure lies in such circumstances are forgiven. Feed Sharon's tremendous ego, as best you can. Keep Cecelia sober. Try your best to keep Cee and his fellow cult members from eating raw chickens or performing circumcisions on adolescent girls to prevent their sexual gratification. And, most of all, you enroll in those English and civics classes.

"so don't lose sleep over he three characters that have been waterboarded."

Trust me, I won't.....But I WILL lose sleep over America abandoning it'd cherished principles as a means to an end.

"and the fact remains that he did do things legally, and to you that is despicable."

Yea....kinds like a partial birth abortion, which is technically legal as well.

Would you like to argue whether or not THAT is despicable or not...even though it IS legal?

"Yes they are, and you can thank your cursed president for that."

Well...not exactly.....but I can be thankful that they are still safe DESPITE his legendary incompetence!

Conservatives; it's like they're purposefully, willfully stupid:

"Too late, he has. But, he hasn't even thought twice about the brave soldiers that have had their throats cut and much worse defending him."

Here's the oath a soldier takes upon induction:

"I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Note the part about "defend the Constitution of the United States". That means the laws upon which this nation was founded, and operates under, right now. Tonight.

We are all bound by it; I would hope that the red-white-and-blue bible thumpers here would stipulate to the fact that we are a nation that is governed by the rule of law.

Tonight, in America, it is illegal to torture people. That law applies to ALL AMERICANS no matter where they are. If you're an American that is torturing someone in a secret black prison in Kyrsigstan, or in a Marine installation in Gitmo, or right here on Terra Americana, you're looking at 20 years.

If you torture someone to death,you're eligible for the death penalty. If you conspire directly to torture someone to death, lyou're eligible for life in prison.

Doesn't matter if you're a military officer, a cop, a special services guy, or a civilian that's doing it...doesn't matter. Your 'but....they're PROTECTING AMERICANS' justification for the worst kind of unacceptable criminality DOES NOT HOLD WATER.

Don't believe me? Well, I figured the ignorant patriotic crowd wouldn't, so here's the Federal Law in the matter:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00002340---A000-.html

§ 2340A. Torture

(a) Offense.— Whoever outside the United States commits or attempts to commit torture shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both, and if death results to any person from conduct prohibited by this subsection, shall be punished by death or imprisoned for any term of years or for life.
(b) Jurisdiction.— There is jurisdiction over the activity prohibited in subsection (a) if—
(1) the alleged offender is a national of the United States; or
(2) the alleged offender is present in the United States, irrespective of the nationality of the victim or alleged offender.
(c) Conspiracy.— A person who conspires to commit an offense under this section shall be subject to the same penalties (other than the penalty of death) as the penalties prescribed for the offense, the commission of which was the object of the conspiracy.

The military is not a protection racket. Or, it didn't used to be before this administration.

Legal my little cell, because I believe the liberal courts voted for the right to kill babies.

Not that I'm against any killing of babies in your country, but something that would never be allowed in my land.

Of course you would put the spin on Partial birth abortions like it's a conservative thing, but I also believe that if one is to say they are against abortions in your country one cannot get elected.

Only in America can one believe killing babies is okay, while at the same time to fight against me, a killer of all things good, is considered a non-issue!

Akuba!! Ayeee!!!

"But he hasn't given any thought to the brave soldiers who have had their throats cut and much worse defending him."

Unfortuantely they stopped 'defending me' the day they got deverted into Iraq. However, I have certainly given 'a thought' to them in my desire to get them out of that hellhole of Bush's own creation.

"legal, my little cell, because I believe the liberal court voted for the right to kill babies."

"Legal"...is the point.

We're making progree now that you've demonstrated an understanding of my original point that all that is legal is not moral.

Now try to avoid distorting any MORE of my statements.

Ah, Mikey the point you made was that in him being legal he has shown some dispicable things.

Is it your president alone who made these things legal? Or, more to the fact is it not the liberal courts who made all these dispicable laws legal?

The fact that your president doesn't have the power to override these dispicable laws (made by your liberal lawmakers I must add) does not make him immoral I believe, unless of course he set out to use them himself.

I don't believe ever reading that he or his daughter's have ever had an abortion, partial or not, and as a matter of fact I have yet to read anywhere where he has done anything to what you would consider immoral.

Unless you insist on thinking that in him impeding my progress is immoral, by sending in his troops to stamp out terrorism, into which I know that there is where we cross swords, because to me he has been the biggest thorn in my side.

Hopefully though, come this November the real immoral one known as Obama hussein will be in power, and then we could really begin to discuss what immoral is.

Akuba!!! Ayeee!!!!

Mike, your boy Obama wouldn't be where he is if he wasn't black, and you know it. The media wouldn't be kissing his but. People wouldn't be making songs about him. He wouldn't be getting any of that. Oh yeah. It's very interesting that you jumped on the Obama band wagon about the same time your hero Keith Olbermann started shilling for him.

Lets face people really don't have a problem with the U.S. water boarding our enemies.

Our enemies that would cut our heads off on camera, our enemies that would kill thousands of us without a thought, our enemies that would blow up our buildings, our enemies that take us hostage, our enemies that torture us(like McCain was), our enemies that have no regard for their lives, our enemies that recruit innocent woman and children to do their dirty work.

People have no problem with the U.S. fighting fire with fire, sometimes.

Our enemies don't have ethics or principals and sometimes we have to show them we don't have them either, because if we don't we look weak.

People don't have a problem with these things, but they do have a problem with Bush.

If we had a democratic president in the last eight yrs, republicans would be on TV calling the President a criminal and democrats would defend him/her till their last breath.

"People don't have a problem with these things, but they do have a problem with Bush."

No, what we have a "problem" with is a president acting like a king, and setting aside cherished American principles as a means to an end in the process.

Sorry if you're having trouble understanding that simple concept.

Ah, I see that 'I am full of it' at 2:11 AM has decided to revert back into his silly comic character routine now that he decisively lost the 'everything legal is not necessarily moral' argument.

"Mike, your boy Obama ouldn't be where he is if he wasn't black, and you know it."

It's hillarious the way some of you have completely turned on it's head the conventional wisdom based argument that 'a black man could never be president' .... in favor of precisely the opposite argument.....All because a man came along at he right time who just happens to have the charisma and passion of a Robert Kennedy....and also just happens to be black....AND white!

No, what we have a "problem" with is a president acting like a king, and setting aside cherished American principles as a means to an end in the process.

Sorry if you're having trouble understanding that simple concept.

Posted by: Mike at March 12, 2008 3:26 AM

Good old American Principles, that people use to make their argument.
Good old American Principles that nobody can really define and that have changed in the past few hundred years.

I'm sure the same people making the "American Principle" argument now , were very silent when Bill Clinton had oral sex with an intern in the Whitehouse and lied about it.

The president sure had a lot of help from the republican and democratic congress acting like a king.

This thread is now closed!