Krazy Keith devotes most of the show
To Fox News and this guy named "Bill-O"
(MS)NBC Ruse
They call it the news
And every day they reach a new low

I read this early today.

".....Our writer, Jim Davis, says he attended several services at Senator Obama's church during the month of July, including July 22. ....both the early morning and evening service allowed Sen. Obama to attend the service and still give a speech in Miami, Mr. Davis stands by his story... Mr. Davis said Secret Service were also present.....story was first published on Newsmax on August 9, 2007. Shortly before publication, Mr. Davis contacted the press office of Sen. Obama several times for comment about the Senator's attendance and Rev. Wright's comments during his sermon. The Senator's office declined to comment.

http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/

I don't remember the particulars but on ocassion I know Secret Service records have been published to prove or disprove various claims of where covered people were or were not.

Can these records be checked or can Obama be the only one to release them?

Secret Service records should be depositive, I would think.

Grammie

Not 1 but 2 nightly reruns of Countdown! Wow, what an evening lineup. Olbermann, Abrams, then reruns. I thought those prison shows got pretty good ratings...better than an Olbermann rerun can do.

It's a good tactic, though: he'll add the 3 broadcasts together and claim he's beating O'Reilly.

On "The Media Matters Minute", concerning the lie on William Kristol, J$ missed that Keith Oralman also smeared Newsmax. Oralman acknowledged that William Kristol's source for the allegation that B H O was at Rev. Wright's pew on July 22 was NewsMax, but then called Newsmax "a hate website", and said that it is the same thing as making it up, and compared it to the Jason Blair situation. Janet Hawkins above then supplies the rest of the information about NewsMax's source.

I have been having problems off and on since last night logging onto OW.

The title and left rail show and then it stops and that bottom line that flips through what is being linked to (sorry, I don't what to call that) says done.

It can take four or five minutes sometimes to make the connection.

Is it my computer or a general problem?

Grammie

A correction: Janet Hawkiins, whose source is Grammie. Good job, ladies.

Jeff E., I am Grammie.

Your comment did make me chuckle though.

Grammie

"pivotalness" LOL, that can't be a word. What a moron.

Anyway how are playing tapes of what Obamanation's rock 'n racist preach spews “a hysterical fabrication"? It's pretty hard to fabricate video tape.

Pretty classy of Olbermann to read the Mackris smear on St. Patrick’s Day. O'Reilly should invite Rebecca Lobo on his show on the anniversary of the fall of Berlin and see how much Olbermann likes it.

Is it not a bit ironic that Olbermann, a.k.a. the "Jock Sniffer" turned news guy, faults the NY Times for permitting the Kristol column, yet this is the same man that interrupted the 2-20-08 rebroadcast of Hardball to report the bogus McCain staffer tryst story. Which by the way was first reported by…………

The NY times.

I am not a licensed therapist, but this left wing water carrier has issues.

Tonight according to Keith, Hillary:
Attack Obama first, didn't quote Samantha Power correctly, an Army General, Jack keen, said Clinton will not act responsible when it came to the war in Iraq, reminded us again that Obama is ahead on Delegates and that's should be the final word.

The problem with the interview that Samantha Power had on BBC'c Hard Talk was, that she contradicted Obama many times. She was torn up by the host of Hard Talk and she looked foolish.

Also with Iraq, I have feeling if Hillary or Obama get elected their speedy removal of troops won't happen, they'll remove troops but not as nearly as fast as they say.
If Keith doesn't see that, then he's not following Iraq closely.

Keith on Obama's pastors "it may not merited the description of a network news cast, it has received and not earned"

So Keith is already saying this story isn't as big as the Ferraro story.

Oh so Bill O'Reilly can't write about Spitzer because his own sex scandal?

In Keith's piece about Bill he criticizes nothing about Bill's professional career instead he takes a cheap and very personal shoot at Bills' life. Ok we get the fact that you hate O'Reilly and make fun of him for ratings but this is low. And Keith has been low before.
Why not attack Bill on his professional merits? It seems childish and makes Keith look bitter.
His cheap and unprofessional attack on Bill was the same thing he criticized Hillary for, mud slinging.

I Know Keith has things in his past that's embarrassing and he's not proud of, how would he like it if it was paraded on prime time TV. Hopefully Bill tries to sue Keith some how.

Hi and thank you, Grannie. I am Jeff E. I have been looking at this website for several weeks now. I usually watch Bill O'Reilly during the 8pm-9pm hour, and catch what I miss during the 11pm rerun. However, I tune in to Keith Oralmann's "Media Matters Minute" which of course is his fake "Worse Persons in the World" segment, to see as to what he would claim that someone in the conservative media had said that was wrong and/or outrageous. Some things that he says I'm able to know that he's wrong, but others, like the William Kristol situation, requires some research. I was a little frustrated that Bill O'Reilly, and some others had not fought back aginst Oralman. I googled "Keith Olbermann" to see if there were any websites that responded to him, and as a result I found this website. I also skimmed at the years 2006 and 2007 and I was able to confirm my suspicions that Oralman did indeed lie or distort at least several things. I am also heartened that some people, like John Gibson and Glen Beck, have indeed started to fight back, and also even Bill O'Reilly, though of course, being careful not to mention him by name. This website has convinced me that Bill O'Reilly indeed does not need to mention Keith Oralmann by name. I was (mildly) startled to find, that Oralmann uses frequently his "Blueblogs" as his sources.

Janet, 3 guesses who 'Jeff E.' is. Soon to be deleted. Hey, dp, how many posts on huffy puffy? 20,000 yet? Don't mention that 9 out of 10 slam obama, ok? Thanks, in advance.

One more comment before I go: I took another look at J$ main post for tonight's show: J$ did quote Oralmann as saying that "Kristol had simply pasted the lie off the hate website Newsmax." My apologies to J$, he did report that. Anyway, great job, J$ and Robert Cox and for everyone else on here who contributes to this website. Good night and I'll check back here later.

Cecelia @ 3:07 PM on the 3/14 tread: "Your argument that it's swiftboating Obama to link ith a man who he supports with self avowed friendship, as well as monetary support via his church, is pretty damn lame."

My ACTUAL argument is not so much that Obama is being swiftboated, ..... but all Americans who desperately want to avoid 4 more years of the same type of disastrous decision making are the ones REALLY being swiftboated in both cases.

You see, ALL of us lost when GWB "won" the 2004 election.....The difference is that some of us know it....and some of us don't.

And by the same token, we ALL stand to lose again if the mudslinging campaign against Obama actually succeeds.

So Cecelia, your post that implies Obama is somehow responsible or believes something a preacher of his happened to say, ..... is about as "damned lame" as me blaming you for something your friend "Olby Sucks" posts.

Maybe if you had finished off your post with "PRETTY DAMN LAME", instead of that meek little "pretty damn lame", you would have been a little more convincing.

Please check out the update posted to the article for an excellent dissection of some of tonight's Olbermann Lies.

OS, the thought ocurred to me also after reading the 11:59 PM comment.

Grammie

That Don't Read The Re Caps...A Goodie.

Oh, it should not surprise you that Edward R Olbermann, who had just finished smearing Bill Kristol for citing a story that had not been verified, read at length from unproven, unadjudicated charges filed in a civil suit as if they were documented fact. That is what we call off-the-charts Olbypocrisy. J$

J$, is there some system problem going on that is making it so hard sometimes for me to connect to OW?

It seems to run in spurts.

Grammie

Olbermann's ultra-weird obsession with Bill O"Reilly has become ultra-spooky. At 400+ O'Reilly attacks, it's pure insanity. Can you say "restraining order"?

As Ubernutt once quoted: "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again with the expectation of different results."

mike, what do think of the fact that Larry Elder, Michael Steele and Juan Williams don't believe obama when he claims "I've never heard rev. wright say any of those things." Any comment?

J$, I loved this finish from your update:

"I suppose MSNBC can generate some level of viewership through airing the low-class hate material of olbermann and Abrams. Just as MSNBC could generate some level of viewership if they hid cameras in a department store bathroom and showed people relieving themselves.

Hey, if you're going to be disgusting go all the way."

Grammie

Mike,

So we shouldn't be surprised if you have been going to a church for the last twenty years where the minister is known to shout "God damn America!", and looking like a banshee when he did so?

> J$, is there some system problem going on that is making it so hard sometimes for me to connect to OW?

I think I know what's causing it and have reported it to Mr Cox.

"You see, ALL of us lost when GWB "won" the 2004 election.....The difference is that some of us know it....and some of us don't."

Uh....OK, but I'm not doing that bad under the Bush presidency. How specifically would I have been a winner if Kerry had been elected? And don't tell me about Iraq. Even though he slammed Bush for getting us into the war, Kerry had no intention of pulling out immediately. And don't tell me about the economy either. The president has very little influence on the ups and downs of an economy the size of ours ($14 trillion). What then? Global Warming? OK, you got me there. It is starting to get hot again.

mike is too busy holding his head in his hands to comment or respond.

The Olbyloons all love to watch when the despicable Olbermann reads tabloid trash about O'Reilly but when someone brings up John Edwards love child they all are appalled that someone would bring up a story from the Enquirer.

The apathy in this country over racist minorities like Wright, Farrakhan and their ilk is just "business as usual". It's the same old story time after time for years.

First comes the over the top comment made by a racist or rap artist, in which there is somebody with some moral dignity who states the obvious.

Then it is played for a few days (the statements, rants, etc.) for all to see, and then when the obvious can't be denied anymore by the liberal media, they start going on the offensive by saying that it is of no more importance than somebody jaywalking.

Soon after that, it is changed to the conservative media (where you can find it) being the racist's who started it all with their personal agenda's.

When Gloria Steinem (maybe the biggest defender of women's right's) was asked for her comments about Ludacris's songs which were all about women as ho's and bitches, she replied with some nonsense about how he was just relating his life experience's.

It wasn't long after that that the actual questionaire was being questioned about what motive they had in asking it.

So to expect anything different now with Wright's comments, and his relationship with Obama would be very naive.

Let's not forget the nation's reaction to the OJ "I murdered two innocent people and laughed in the face of justice" Simpson when he was acquitted of the most obvious murder in the history of our country.

This reaction was for a murderer, so what can you expect from the people who back a man who only "associate's" himself with a racist hate monger like Wright ( who most obviously would love to see the end of any white man in power) for over 20 years?

Unfortunately it will only make Obama more popular to the people who are behind him, but yet, Wright could be the catalyst to wake up the republicans in this country to get out and vote come election day.

Obama "seems" to be a nice man on the surface, but with all these things popping up now, and truthful things at that: Michelle Obama's "first time in my life I'm proud of America" comment along with ALL of the reverend Jeremiah "I hate white's" Wright's comments it truly makes you wonder why there isn't 10 times more the coverage on these insindiary statements.

Thanks, J$.

Grammie

Olby likes to crow, "I'm not partisan, I'm just right." Well, he should really tell that idiot Kos to stop blowing his cover! Kos calls Olbermann a member of the "mainstream of the progressive movement." In Kosworld, Fidel Castro is a "mainstream" progressive. Check this out:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/17/12417/1285

"It is Clinton, with no reasonable chance of victory, who is fomenting civil war in order to overturn the will of the Democratic electorate. As such, as far as I'm concerned, she doesn't deserve "fairness" on this site. . . [t]hat's why she has earned my enmity and that of so many others. That's why she is bleeding super delegates. That's why she's even bleeding her own caucus delegates. That's why Keith Olbermann finally broke his neutrality. That's why Nancy Pelosi essentially cast her lot with Obama."

"People like me have two choices -- look the other way while Clinton attempts to ignite her civil war, or fight back now, before we cross that dangerous line. Honestly, it wasn't a difficult choice. And it's clear, looking at where the super delegates, most bloggers, and people like Olbermann are lining up, that the mainstream of the progressive movement is making the same choice."

Look for "The Best of Rev Wright" come October.

Dick Morris! You predicted a Hillary nomination long ago and you may be correct. The vicious Clinton slander and murder machine could make quick work of B. Hussein with a little behind the scenes media scoop here and there. The good Rev, Obama's middle name, his Grandma in Muslim garb, perhaps even knowledge of Obama's involvement in the Spitzerian arts will magically surface. No doubt the Clinton machine knew of the racy Reverend and were waiting to use him if needed. Oh for a wee peek in Hillary's bag of tricks! It must look like a witches special goody bag in there!

KfK, thanks for that link.

When I came to "Clinton attempts to ignite her civil war, or fight back now" I was taken aback to see that it ended in "before we cross that dangerous line" rather than "CROSS THE RUBICON".

You can't say that Kos exercises any sense of balance or self restraint, thats for sure. As he says:

"she doesn't deserve "fairness" on this site"

If that is so brazenly delared about HRC what will he mete out to Repubs or anyone else who is right of radical hard left. The Kos declaring from on high that HRC "doesn't deserve fairness' is definitely reminisscent of Joseph Goebbels.

He then goes on to declare "That's why Keith Olbermann finally broke his neutrality."

I guess we shouldn't be surprised by anything a fledgling Goebbels acolyte says.

Grammie

My ACTUAL argument is not so much that Obama is being swiftboated, ..... but all Americans who desperately want to avoid 4 more years of the same type of disastrous decision making are the ones REALLY being swiftboated in both cases.

You see, ALL of us lost when GWB "won" the 2004 election.....The difference is that some of us know
it....and some of us don't.

And by the same token, we ALL stand to lose again if the mudslinging campaign against Obama actually succeeds.

So Cecelia, your post that implies Obama is somehow responsible or believes something a preacher of his happened to say, ..... is about as "damned lame" as me blaming you for something your friend "Olby Sucks" posts.

Maybe if you had finished off your post with "PRETTY DAMN LAME", instead of that meek little "pretty damn lame", you would have been a little more convincing.

Posted by: Mike at March 17, 2008 11:38 PM

I don't think "lame" in all caps will convince you, when you've not even managed to answer anyone's argument that Obama is not being tarred with "guilt by association" in any classical sense. You've ignored all replies to your post and merely repeated yourself.

Rev Wright and Obama are not mere acquaintances. They aren't casual friends who occasionally have a beer in a bar. Obama has called Wright his "mentor". If you don't know the meaning of that word, look it up.

Obama voluntarily joined a Church that is led, directed, and pastored by Wright. Wright is this church's spiritual LEADER and TEACHER. Obama supports him with his time, his attendance (for the past 20 years), any contribution of money he makes, and by his personal recommendations of Wright via a book dedication, and references to Wright's influence on his life in Obama's books.

With your usual level of brilliance..you may say that this is guilt by association and then give no argument to back it up, merely say that it should be dismissed because...well....Obama is less like Bush than Hillary and we need him... but somehow Obama and his campaign have not framed things up with this bit of sophistry... (imagine that..). They have characterized Wright's words as being very serious indeed and have disavowed them. Obama has gone as far as to say that in Wright's entire tenure at his church, Obama has never heard this sort of thing before. Right...

Obama hasn't excused it, or trivialized it, or argued that since he merely sat in the congregation Sunday after Sunday under a pastor who has accused the govt of intentionally killing black folks with HIV, that he (Obama) has no association with these teachings.

So if you can't manage to actually respond to a rebuttal of your argument that this is merely guilt by association, surely you can at the very least, give Obama the sort accountability that he's given himself.

Obama "seems" to be a nice man on the surface, but with all these things popping up now, and truthful things at that: Michelle Obama's "first time in my life I'm proud of America" comment along with ALL of the reverend Jeremiah "I hate white's" Wright's comments it truly makes you wonder why there isn't 10 times more the coverage on these insindiary statements.
Posted by: wolverine at March 18, 2008 1:02 AM

I'd like to see this new line of attack from the HRC campaign shine a light on just how prevalent these sorts of fears are in the black community and (though based on real and historical mistreatment) how they are heightened and exploited by Democratic operatives.

what a joke olbermann is.. no coverage of the
racist N.Y.P.D. shooting a unarmed blackguy.....
guess it's ok if it makes his commute safer.Too
bad that bomb at the recruiting office wasn't
bigger.....might have made keith's show oh no
it might Bloomberg look bad same with that Crane falling.......least it took out one illegal
why couldn't it have taken out keith??

In his column today Richard Cohen took a shot at Olby over his blue dress interview with Obama. He refers to "MSNBC's fawning Keith Olbermann", while criticizing the "sycophantic" media coverage of the candidate. It's brief, but it's nice to see a serious journalist calling out Keith. Cohen just made himself a candidate for WPITW tonight. Read it here, beginning in the fifth paragraph:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/17/AR2008031702153.html?nav=rss_opinion/columns

"Sorry, uncle wright, but, I have to chuck you under the bus. I might even have to back over you once or twice. You know I have to do this to make the people think that we aren't really racists. Don't forget to feed the roosting chickens. I will return to church and I will give high 5's and act like a zoo animal every timeyou make a racist remark like old times. Thanks for teaching all about racism."

Johnny Dollar already said this, but it bears repeating:

Please click through the last link of the main post, UPDATE: More Olbermann Lies exposed: Bottom-Dwelling with MSNBC.

It is a keeper!

MoSho

Funny characterzation of the cast at MSNBC by Tucker supporters:

A Friends of Tucker release announced, "John Bertran, the Melbourne Florida investment counselor and insurance salesman who co-chairs Friends of Tucker Carlson today blasted MSNBC for canceling the show of conservative pundit, Tucker Carlson. ... 'The left-wing activists at MSNBC have succeeded in limiting the voice of the one independent minded conservative they have on the air,' said Bertran. 'Psycho socialist, Keith Olbermann, Tim O'Neil 'butt-boy' Chris Matthews and lefty hit man Dan 'Danny the rug' Abrams are trying to limit an important conservative and libertarian voice on MSNBC,' the conservative activist said."

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlDC/taking_out_the_trash/morning_reading_list_031808_80127.asp

Looks like kilpatrick is going to be given the boot. Another (d) down the tubes.

You can't make this stuff up!

The thunderous applause was still ringing in his ears when the state's new governor, David Paterson, told the Daily News that he and his wife had extramarital affairs.

In a stunning revelation, both Paterson, 53, and his wife, Michelle, 46, acknowledged in a joint interview they each had intimate relationships with others during a rocky period in their marriage several years ago.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/17/david-paterson-new-york_n_92011.html

Change the subject speech with a bonus....Once again, a typical politician wants to have it both ways.....

On the one hand Obamessiah concludes the following regarding the results of racism in anger and economic insecurity in America:

"This is where we are right now. It’s a racial stalemate we’ve been stuck in for years."

###
Then, no more than 3 paragraphs later, Obamessiah once again tries to seperate himself fro his mentor and spiritual leader with this contradictory statement:

"The profound mistake of Reverend Wright’s sermons is not that he spoke about racism in our society. It’s that he spoke as if our society was static; as if no progress has been made; as if this country – a country that has made it possible for one of his own members to run for the highest office in the land and build a coalition of white and black; Latino and Asian, rich and poor, young and old -- is still irrevocably bound to a tragic past. But what we know -- what we have seen – is that America can change. That is true genius of this nation. What we have already achieved gives us hope – the audacity to hope – for what we can and must achieve tomorrow."

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashos.htm

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It seems Obamessiah wants to perform a slight of hand that is almost as good as Houdini....condemn the anti-American statements of a mentor while still being more than happy to use the anger, hostility and insecurity that plagues many in America and conclude those "forces" contribute to racism. Ah yes....very nuanced, very subtle....and what I would expect from someone from the leftist elite.....

The masses are "stuck" is their anger and insecurity and Obamessiah knows the ways to alleviate the masses "wrong thinking." He will not be like Clinton, Bush, Limbaugh, Reverand Wright or anyone else in the ruling class that only use such human nature to get them to support them and then feed the hatred....he is new and different and will cure what ails the lessers....

Oh well...I did not expect anything different from a leftist....What is sad is that although he says he was condemning Wright's words, Obamessiah has positioned his entire campaign to use the same fodder to garner votes, and this morning's speech confrims it. Racial divisions and the same old leftist solutions to try to eradicate them, are all that has been offered and guess what.....the divisions are maintained and even made stronger....

Democrats thrive on such constiuency politics and Obamessiah's attempt to claim he is not using the same formulas and tactics as his leftist predacessors is very sad.

I doubt Olbermann will see the blatent contradiction tonight on COUNTDOWN.

Yes, my little bovine lover, as you posted at 1:24 these are hardly facts that you and I want revealed.

Unfortunately, McCain could very well be the next president of your United States, and if elected he will only carry on the resistance to me that the cursed Bush has done for the past 7 years.

This is NOT what we want little bovine lover, as it will keep me in this dark and damp cave for the next 4 years after the election.

Bad enough that almost all of my best warriors in this jihad against your country have been eliminated, and it would serve you well in the future not to let on about anymore secret plans I have set down.

I know by little gutless warrior that your hatred for America is well known, and the excitement of one of my most well known cells Obama to win the election come November is exhilirating to be sure, but let us not count our chickens before they hatch.

Afterall, now that the truth is out about my brave warrior Jeremiah Wright, and to Obama's wife in to how they also hate America, I am afraid these revelations could help to sway the elections in our disfavor.

Quiet, my son, and with Allah's help this will all blow over, (as most anti-American treasonous actions usually do) and he will once again regain the popularity of the many anti-Americans and the results will be a victory for all the terrorists in the world come this November!

Akuba!!! Ayeee!!!!

I think it is funny that Obama threw his poor mother and grand mother under the bus. Stay classy Obama. Stay classy.

Olbermann's "show" is boring. Same commentators, same schtick, and you totally know what's going to be said before it even happens....Compared to O'Reilly's show where there is someone to disagree with him on just about every segment, Olbermann's spin is just BORING...Truly, it's Groundhog day at "Meltdown"over and over and over...The most boring hour of television ever...If MSNBC put an hour of basket weaving on in its stead it would be a huge improvement. I think most of Olbermann's audience are Meth addicts and I can see why. They need it to stay awake.

He works in a snippy remark about Ferarro into his great speech.

Petty? You bet. Unifying? Not to me.

Actions. I like people of action.

I agree with Obama words are important. Wright's words were important. I'm at least glad he acknowledged that his mentor is divisive.

Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 03/18/2008

I hate Beck and all the wingers too but why is it OK with you that Barack is closely associated with a hate spewing minister? His hate associations are fine with you? Double standard much?I guess you are ok with his ties and lies about Rezco too.

Posted 01:20 PM on 03/18/2008

keep in mind he didn't do this voluntarily he was forced into it.

Posted 01:17 PM on 03/18/2008

Not our hate. See that is just what we are saying! Wright and Obama can spew whatever they want, but you let us say we are offended by it, and BAM we are haters.
That is Bull, and we are tired of it.

Posted 01:19 PM on 03/18/2008

OS, were tose quotes from a HuffPuffy thread?

Which one?

Grammie

the goofs at the KO forum think they "scooped" OW & other's on the Katy Tur spotting on CW 11 NY news. She is doing numerous segments including St. Patrick's.

I thought you were the #1 Keith Olberman (and al things Olbermann) blog in the world. You guys are slipping, find and post some "Turd" footage!

http://keitholbermann.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=15396

quanlin starts to freak out:
Let's please not go there again.
Katy's a perfectly perfect choice for KO's gf and there's nothing else to talk about.

another loon:
Terry I saw her this morning on the WB11 doing a segment on the St. Patricks day parade. That was at 6:15 am. She was perky...LOL!!!!

donna ballard again-katy's career is doing great...just shows that who you know or who you....well whatever. is of much greater importance than a journalism degree.

quanlin
Seems like unwarranted hostility and sexism to me. What did she do to you that you should resent her for her success?

terry ballard:
Well, now that we are 24 hours into this, it blows my mind that we have scooped the entire blogosphere/Googlasphere universe on this story. I have a hunch that the Keith-haters will have a ball with this, once they wake up. Too bad.

Janet, they are from the 'obama speech' thread at the top of huffy puffy.

do I have to do everything for you guys! (teehee)

Here is Katy Tur(d): The segment is called:
New Yorkers Prep for the St. Partrick's Day Parade

http://cw11.trb.com/news/local/morningnews/?track=nav

BTW, she say's her name like TurK (with a "K" sound, I guess she took our "turd" advice...

do I have to do everything for you guys! (teehee, just kidding!)

Here is Katy Tur(d): The segment is called:
New Yorkers Prep for the St. Patrick's Day Parade

http://cw11.trb.com/news/local/morningnews/?track=nav

BTW, she say's her name like TurK (with a "K" sound, I guess she took our "turD" advice...

sorry for the double posts J$, I thought it didn't go through, but at least I caught a typo....(I can see why I may have had problems posting, some nut called LOL! Hag... posted a bunch of times. what a moron).

Oh, one more thing. You have to scroll down a bit within the video window, past segments like beer belly work out, owen wilson's new moview to get to the St Patrick's prep video...

http://cw11.trb.com/news/local/morningnews/?track=nav

(It is odd that this woman who is not really that attractive and has no journalism degree can get a TV reporting gig in NYC. Just an observation).

For my friend, Janet.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/18/obama-race-speech-read-t_n_92077.html

Not our hate. See that is just what we are saying! Wright and Obama can spew whatever they want, but you let us say we are offended by it, and BAM we are haters.
That is Bull, and we are tired of it.

Posted 01:19 PM on 03/18/2008

Posted by: olby SUCKS at March 18, 2008 3:04 PM

hmmmmmm....They act as though this were something new and different for liberals to treat people in this way...

Dear Hillary Supporters,

"Welcome to our world... Won't you come on in. Miracles I guess, still happen now and then..."

Sincerely,
Conservatives

"For my friend, Janet.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/18/obama-race-speech-read-t_n_92077.html

Posted by: olby SUCKS at March 18, 2008 4:36 PM "

Thanks twice, OS.

The "old and stupid" comment was not me. Just someone playing lame games, perhaps with both of us.

I see from Newsie's comment that Patsy has been sniffing, scratching and scent marking again so maybe he inspired it.

Grammie

Jeff E.,

I would appreciate if you stop using your nick, OS, because it reminds me of being Old and Stupid.

Thanks for the link.
More traffic.

Grammie

I love posting links to prove people are leaving the 'obamaloon' camp in droves. No prob, dp. Anytime.

Markos "DailyKos" Moulitsas has thrown Senator Clinton overboard. Mr. Murrow, Jr. is lending him a hand (he says):

Moulitsas: "And it’s clear, looking at where the super delegates, most bloggers, and people like Olbermann are lining up, that the mainstream of the progressive movement is making the same choice [abandoning Clinton]."

Going to be interesting to see how the Media Matters/Think Progress/Olbermann relationship weathers this.

I disagree.

Thanks, einstein.

I love posting links to prove people are leaving the 'obamaloon' camp in droves.

When do you intend to post a link that proves anything, RK?

Try reading, loon boon.

Does Olbermann have the "manhood" attack his own network for this?

http://valleywag.com/369289/chocolate-on-the-outside

I am guessing no.

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Rev. Jeremiah Wright in interview last year on 'Hannity and Colmes'
Barack Obama's suddenly radioactive pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, has defended himself against charges of anti-Americanism and racism by referring to his foundational philosophy, the "black liberation theology" of scholars such as James Cone, who regard Jesus Christ as a "black messiah" and blacks as "the chosen people" who will only accept a god who assists their aim of destroying the "white enemy."

"If God is not for us and against white people," writes Cone, "then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill gods who do not belong to the black community."

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Factor: "I think it is funny that Obama threw his own mother and grandmother under the bus. Stay classy Obama, stay classy."

The disconnect here is that you wouldn't recognize class if it slapped you in the face.

Fortunately for America, I'm hoping that most Americans will.

He works in a snippy remark about Ferarro into his great speech.

Petty? You bet. Unifying? Not to me.

Actions. I like people of action.

I agree with Obama words are important. Wright's words were important. I'm at least glad he acknowledged that his mentor is divisive.

Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 03/18/2008

I hate Beck and all the wingers too but why is it OK with you that Barack is closely associated with a hate spewing minister? His hate associations are fine with you? Double standard much?I guess you are ok with his ties and lies about Rezco too.

Posted 01:20 PM on 03/18/2008

keep in mind he didn't do this voluntarily he was forced into it.

Posted 01:17 PM on 03/18/2008

Not our hate. See that is just what we are saying! Wright and Obama can spew whatever they want, but you let us say we are offended by it, and BAM we are haters.
That is Bull, and we are tired of it.

Posted 01:19 PM on 03/18/2008

Fortunately for America, I'm hoping that most Americans will.

Posted by: Mike at March 18, 2008 8:55 PM

Your right Mike, it is fortunate for America that you are "hoping" and not still hiding in your bath tub since your cult leader demagogue has been exposed for what he is. Instead of apologizing for his 20 year stupidity, Obama chose to pander and attack straw men. Pathetic.

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So, there! DEBUNKED! AGAIN!

"Obama is lucky and popular just because he is black."

AND....your next president....all the smearing in the world from the right isn't going to stop it.

Get used to it!

Jesus Christ as a "black messiah" and blacks as "the chosen people" who will only accept a god who assists their aim of destroying the "white enemy"...

"Business as usual" from what I've seen on the talk circuit tonight with regards to Obama's speech. Words like "brilliant" to this blasphemous quote from Matthews "may be the best speech that I have ever heard from any politician" whereas things like Obama saying that he couldn't disavow himself from his white grandmother when she said racial slurs towards the blacks (as if what Wright said was on an equal par). To his even scarier comment that it would be the same to disavow himself from the black race for the things Wright said.

In other words that the things Wright said are also accepted by the black race as a whole, and therefore he could not differenciate between the two (Wright's comments and the black race).

This smacks of Hitler's reaction when he was asked to condemn Goebbel's speeches about his prejudice rhetoric about the Jews, in which he also said to do that would be in condemning the whole German race.

How in the world are these racist's helping to cure the racism in this country when they are constantly defending quotes like this?

Generalizing it all to the simple fact that "all blacks" think this way, therefore it is acceptable.

"Obama chose to pander and attack straw men."

Well, You ARE certainly an expert at doing that.

Lets take a look at Obamanations speech for the brainless Olbyloons who have crawled out of the wood work.

"disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe."

Basically here, Obamanation compares his Grandmother to this Anti-Semite rock 'n roll racist pastor. Obamanation also compares this monster to everyone’s priest, preacher, and rabbi. I am sorry Barak, but if my priest started saying the foolishness that your pastor spewed, I would walk out and never come back

"This smacks of Hitler's reaction when he was asked to condemn Goebbels speeches about his predjudice rhetoric about the jews."

Still stuck on your own personal version of Hitler analogies, huh?

"Basically here, Obamanation compares his Grandmother to this Anti-Semite rock 'n roll racist paster."

Not at all....."basically", what he did is demonstrate his rather deep understanding of nuance.

And no, Factor, I don't expect YOU to understand the concept of nuance....but I have faith that more than 50% of Americans will.

Mike, can you honestly say that if there was any white republican who associated himself with the filth known as Wright, that there wouldn't be an all out calling for this politician to be banned from ever speaking again?

Especially, when this "pastor" was his mentor, and close friend. Enough so that he called him like an uncle.

Come on Mike, tell the truth here.

And, as for your reference to my analogy of Hitler and Goebbel's, can you think of anything right now in this present day where one race (the black's) can say, as obama did when he said he couldn't disassociate himself from the black race over Wright's statement's about the white race as if that is an accepted philosophy of the blacks, whatever hateful things they want in regards to another race where it is not only allowed but accepted?

Mike, come on now. This association with this hate filled man cannot be defended, no matter what party you believe in, and especially so when this man is running for the presidency of this country.

Dahhhhhhhh Why is Fox News Channel not covering the anti catholic meanderings of that Pastor John Hagee ?

Posted by: Keith Oliar at March 18, 2008 9:29 PM

Because John McCain did not sit in John Hagee's pew for twenty years. Obamanation sat in the great Rev. Jeremiah Anti-Semite's pew and listen too his ranting about Israel being responsible for 9/11. Obamanation probably did back-flips and hand-stands in isle like the rest of the hate mongers at that church

And no, Factor, I don't expect YOU to understand the concept of nuance....but I have faith that more than 50% of Americans will.

Posted by: Mike at March 18, 2008 9:49 PM

There was nothing nuanced about it, that's the point.

You think it's "nuanced" to compare an involuntary familial relationship between the grandmother who raised you to the voluntary one between a parishioner and the pastor of a highly influential 8000 member Chicago church cum political rally?

You think it's "nuanced" to compare the remarks Obama's grandmother made with remarks made by Mr. Wright?

Obama may say that he had only an inkling of the sort of beliefs Wright harbors but finds that secondary to the man's other qualities, but he needs to answer how he can expect whites (who he represents too) to understand that, just as any white politician would have to do if the shoe was on the other foot.

"Mike, can you honestly say that if there was any white republican himself with the filth known as right, that there wouldn't be an all out calling for this politician to be banned from ever speaking again?"

I can honestly say that a number of white republicans have had no problem associatin themselves with the filth known as Ann Coulter, and no one credible on the left has called for THEM to be banned from speaking again.

As for you 'banning public speaking' comment......this IS America!

I wouldn't want to be some of you people, like Cecelia, the Factor and Jeff, when you wake up to find we have an African-American president and when you die to find a God not so lilly white in judgment of you, but I sure hope to see the expressions on your faces.

Like you would know anything about the Hispanic's or the blacks 9:39?

Been hanging in the hood have ya? Or just picked up your latest "Columbian Gold" to further your diversified education of how the bro's and the muchacho's live.

God, you are one sorry ass loser who sure makes the liberals look grand. Square business man. I would love to see you come to my block.

"Dance" Columbian? Now how would one dance Columbian? You are one lonely person boy. Get out of your gangi smoked room, and get a breath of fresh air before you brain dies, although I think it has called it a day a long time ago.

after prayer.

Which makes God a pretty damn stupid political advisor.

Posted by: I HAVE A CAPS LOCK BUTTON WEEEE!!!! at March 18, 2008 9:49 PM

Well if you were not such a moron you would understand that the president prays to God to give him the wisdom and courage to make the correct decision not to make the decision for him. Your Obamanation, if God forbid, is elected President will turn to his Jew hating black Jesus for guidance or the “prophet” Mohammed.

"You think it's "nuanced" to compare the remarks of Obama's grandmother with the remarks made by Mr' right."

The nuance comes with understanding that he wasn't "comparing" those two individuals at all. He was simply making a point about not abandoning relationships simply because they have been known to make inflammatory remarks you don't agree with.

I remain personally proud of my own grandfather, nor would I ever abandon him, even though he wouldn't let a black man pass him on the highway...while uttering some pretty disturbing racial epitahs in the process.

Does that make ME a racist?

Mike please, the association with Wright and Obama is a LOT different than Coulter's backing of any politician.

Obama, is not only associated to Wright, but Wright was his mentor. Baptized his kids, and one to who he also consider's an uncle.

Big difference, and I know you see the difference, as you are a smart guy.

There was a bit of irony on Countdown that utterly defined Keith Olbermann.

At the start of the program, he incredulously read positive views of Obama's speech from prominent conservatives and conservative groups. Later Rachael Maddow said that Obama had appeal to the "better angels" in all of us.

Still later, after several promos, Olbermann made John McCain WPITW for a flub-up and said that this proves McCain is not lucid enough to be president.

So here you have conservatives objectively analyzing the speech of their opponent Obama in his attempt to bandage what could be a fatal wound to his campaign and here you have Olbermann nightly trying to invent a fatal wound to McCain's campaign.

Olbermann's "better angel" cleared out for classier digs long ago...

"Big difference, and I know you see the difference. You are a smart guy."

Yes, and I'm smart enough to understand that it's possible to have a personal relationship with someone, .... while also strongly disagreeing with many of their infalammatory views.

I, for one, want to thank Senator Obama for the wisdom and love he shared today. We have a Roosevelt in our midst, a man who truly and deeply understands what it is that makes America great and who has the strength and self-confidence to put himself on the front lines in the battle against hatred and divisiveness. It will be a great test of our own decency and discretion to put aside our own pettiness and prejudices to vote for a good and noble man, perhaps not as white as us, who will hold America to the promises it has made and the potential it holds. We are, indeed, a blessed people in a blessed time to have this opportunity. How wonderful it will be to have, once again and at long last, a leader whose own greatness will make us great and who will restore the respect we have squandered during the dark period we soon thankfully leave behind us. Truly, happy days are here again.

Again, you stupid fuck, you have stated that being "Columbian" is worse than being black.

I know you are not running for office, but this is your chance to re-examine yourself

Re-examine myself? Don't you think the shoe is on the other foot? When was the last time you went out with either a black or hispanic? Did you ever go out with either?

You seem to have it down pat to how all races are and react, so I ask you again, since you know so much about what you talk about in regards to both groups let's get back to these simple terms that anybody who has lived in the hood would know:...big sleeve...mother's day...up's...shark bait...jb's...ultimate...

Now ring them off loser, as you know how the black man lives and breathe's. It's been a day since I left them for you, and you still haven't come up with one answer.

Yeah, in being Columbian and working in a country where people go so much on looks she is no different than any black, EXCEPT that with her accent she has another mark against her from the racist's as yourself.

I, for one, want to thank Senator Obama for the wisdom and love he shared today. We have a Roosevelt in our midst, a man who truly and deeply understands what it is that makes America great and who has the strength and self-confidence to put himself on the front lines in the battle against hatred and divisiveness. It will be a great test of our own decency and discretion to put aside our own pettiness and prejudices to vote for a good and noble man, perhaps not as white as us, who will hold America to the promises it has made and the potential it holds. We are, indeed, a blessed people in a blessed time to have this opportunity. How wonderful it will be to have, once again and at long last, a leader whose own greatness will make us great and who will restore the respect we have squandered during the dark period we soon thankfully leave behind us. Truly, happy days are here again.

I remain personally proud of my own grandfather, nor would I ever abandon him, even though he wouldn't let a black man pass him on the highway...while uttering some pretty disturbing racial epitahs in the process.

Does that make ME a racist?
Posted by: Mike at March 18, 2008 10:19 PM

Of course it's a comparison. You just made it yourself, by comparing the relationship you have by blood and not feeling like you are unable to jettison a relative with the relationship Obama has with his pastor by virtue of choice.

Your and Obama's grandparent may have uttered racial remarks on the level of White's comments (but I doubt it) but there is a distinct difference between the your relationships with them and Obama made the sort of lame comparison that you'd never let McCain get away with.

Obama could certainly have kept Wright as a friend (which is far more than a white pol could do), without sitting under him as a congregant. He could admire the good qualites about the man, without lending his tacit approval of his other views by supporting his church.

It doesn't make him a racist, but it certainly belies his message of being and wanting to be a part of a community and a country outside any parameter of racial identities.

Did anyone else notice that over the weekend, Obama tried to distance himself from the Rev.'s comments that he disagreed with them and was around for any of them...
...then today, of cours I knew about them and I accept them but don't agree with them...of course I have no problem exposing my wife and children to his biased hate filled words ...

Big difference, and I know you see the difference, as you are a smart guy.

Posted by: wolverine at March 18, 2008 10:22 PM

Wrong, that partisan hack in him won't allow such a thing.

Posted by: at March 18, 2008 10:45 PM

but I have faith that more than 50% of Americans will.

Posted by: Mike at March 18, 2008 9:49 PM

The same ones that cheer loudly when obama blows his nose!

but I have faith that more than 50% of Americans will.

Posted by: Mike at March 18, 2008 9:49 PM

The same ones that cheer loudly when obama blows his nose!

"but there is a distinct difference between the your relationships with them and Obama made the the sort of lame comparison that you'd never let McCain get away with."

Really?

I challenge you to search my comments on the site and find where I have attacked McCain at all....I actually respect the man....even as I strongly oppose and disagree ith his hawkish war stand.

You will NEVER see ME attacking McCain for something someone he has a relationship with has said.

We have a Roosevelt in our midst
Posted by: John Wayne Gacy the Juggling Clown at March 18, 2008 10:36 PM

You got that right. We have another socialist fascist who will turn a recession into the Great Depression.

How wonderful it will be to have, once again and at long last, a leader whose own greatness will make us great and who will restore the respect we have squandered during the dark period we soon thankfully leave behind us. Truly, happy days are here again.

Posted by: Jimmy Jack the Juggling Clown at March 18, 2008 10:36 PM

I think you might have more agreement if the Obama had managed to distance himself from racial divisiveness on Sundays....and were there more specific examples of his leadership abilities.

One good blow from Senator Obama's nose makes more sense than every word you have ever written, Royal King.

One good blow from Senator Obama's nose makes more sense than every word you have ever written, Royal King.

Posted by: Jimmy Jack the Juggling Clown at March 18, 2008 10:54 PM

Do you have an identity outside of the ones you adopt here for the sake of Royal King?

That's great logic, as always, Factor. The man who saved America from Communism during the 1929 Republican Depression and from Facism during the War is labeled a "socialist fascist" by an ahistorical, hysterical twit.

Cecelia, hang it up. Life has marched past you. You had a good run, but the race is over.

mike's and philby's/jj #1 guy.

"If God is not for us and against white people," writes Cone, "then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill gods who do not belong to the black community."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=59230

"We have another socialist fascist who will turn a recession into the great depression."

Got your excuses lined up already, huh?

Cecelia, hang it up. Life has marched past you. You had a good run, but the race is over.

Posted by: Jimmy Jack the Juggling Clown at March 18, 2008 10:59 PM

Says a guy who adopts a myriad of identities so he can troll a blogsite against its owner's wishes...

The delusional Royal King offers us nothing, again. How are you going to adjust to an African-American president, Royal King? I don't think you can hide beneath Cecelia's skirts for 8 years. Now, go find some trite tidbit to cut and paste and leave the big boys alone to think.

Cecelia, since you claim to be looking for examples of Obama's leadership ability...here is a news flash....you saw it today!

Leadership is the ability to inspire....leadership is the ability to turn a negative into a positive....leadership is the ability to see both sides of an issue.

The man who saved America from Communism during the 1929

Posted by:John Wayne Gacy the Juggling Clown at March 18, 2008 10:59 PM

Are you kidding? The man had communist spies all over his administration that ended up giving the Soviets the Bomb.

Does lying fall to the category of "leading?" Mike?

"I've never heard those comment made by 'rev' wright!" obama

2 days later. "I've heard them bit don't agree with them!" obama

Gee. Who does that remind you of? LOL!

Cecelia, jimmy jack is a woman posting as a 'man.'

Cecelia, since you claim to be looking for examples of Obama's leadership ability...here is a news flash....you saw it today!

Leadership is the ability to inspire....leadership is the ability to turn a negative into a positive....leadership is the ability to see both sides of an issue.

Posted by: Mike at March 18, 2008 11:07 PM

Both Rush Limbaugh and the rap artist Fiffy Cent have that ability. I doubt they'd make good presidents.

Charisma is a part of leadership, but it doesn't define leadership.

"2 days later. "I've heard them bit don't agree with them!" Obama"

Just like we all heard them "2 days later".

Cecelia, jimmy jack is a woman posting as a 'man.'

Posted by: olby SUCKS at March 18, 2008 11:12 PM

Well, all these clowns seem to have identity issues...

Both Rush Limbaugh and the rap artist Fiffy Cent have that ability. I doubt they'd make good presidents.

Yes, Cecelia, but you would vote for the white male Republican whether he'd make a good president or not. Do us all a favor. Reboot your Tandy. While you're waitng, take Factor to a library and show him how to use it.

Both Rush Limbaugh and the rap artist Fifty Cent have that ability."

I strongly disagree with any assertion that Limbaugh see's both sides of issues.....but I have to confess to knowing precious little about "Fifty Cent.

Nice apology mike. Deep in denial, aren't you?

Cecelia, Royal King is a horse's butt posting as a jackass.

Mike,

The bottom line is not if one "sees both sides of issues" but what side one comes down on. And Obama always comes down on the far left side. Please don't swoon if he starts talking about a "third way".

obama knew of the hateful comments made by the good 'reverend' long ago. Keep you puny little head poked deep in the sand, ok? It's only a matter of time before more info comes out.

How do you know if you come down on the right side of an issue, Rico, if you only see one side? Don't be threatened by Senator Obama. He isn't going to make you go through socil redoctrination.

Yes, Cecelia, but you would vote for the white male Republican whether he'd make a good president or not. Do us all a favor. Reboot your Tandy. While you're waitng, take Factor to a library and show him how to use it.
Posted by: Jimmy Jack the Juggling Clown at March 18, 2008 11:18 PM

Oh, we'll be listening to you knock off a chorus or two of "Okay Days Are Here Again", if the other Democrat makes it instead, Jimmy...

Do us a favor. Cram yourself and your posse into the little clown car. Your act is already old. :D

"The bottom line is not if one "sees both sides of issues" but hat side one comes don on."

I see you're still missing his entire point Rico: The point is that one does not always have to come down squarely on one "side" or the other.

Aren't you tired of the divisiveness defined as Americans being forced to take "sides"?

Cecelia, Royal King is a horse's butt posting as a jackass.

Posted by: Jimmy Jack the Juggling Clown at March 18, 2008 11:21 PM

What happened to your "3 week trip to the middle east" philby? Get cut short? 3 days instead? Pathetic. She's one of yours, mike!

Cecelia, Royal King is a horse's butt posting as a jackass.

Posted by: Jimmy Jack the Juggling Clown at March 18, 2008 11:21 PM

And here you have dibs on that!

Re:

Jeff E.,

I would appreciate if you stop using your nick, OS, because it reminds me of being Old and Stupid.

Thanks for the link.
More traffic.

Grammie

Posted by: Janet Hawkins at March 18, 2008 5:10 PM

Hi Janet.

I reread my posts from yesterday and I didn't say anything about OS. Does OS= the poster named "olby SUCKS"? If so, then he or she is not me, which also means that I can't take credit for his or her link. Yesterday was the first time that I ever posted here.

Re:

Janet, 3 guesses who 'Jeff E.' is. Soon to be deleted.

Posted by: olby SUCKS at March 17, 2008 11:33 PM

Hi olby SUCKS:

I don't know what you are inferring, but my post from last night at 11:19 should make clear what my stance on Keith Olbermann is, and that I'm on your side and agree with your nickname.

To both:

I'm sorry that it took me so long to respond to these posts, but I am only on the internet a couple of hours a night and plus a little bit on weekends, and this is the first time that I've read these posts. I hope that my posts don't get deleted and don't plan on saying anything that would cause any of my posts to be deleted and once, olby Sucks, you readsmy 11:19 post of last night, that you won't want me deleted either.

What happened to your "3 week trip to the middle east" philby? Get cut short? 3 days instead? Pathetic. She's one of yours, mike!

Posted by: olby SUCKS at March 18, 2008 11:27 PM

So Clucker is a woman, OS? And here we just thought he was someone who longed to wear his wife's clothes... :D

I don't know anything about "philby" nor have I been in the Middle East recently, except for a vacation in Egypt a couple of years ago. Of course, this is really northern Africa, and probably doesn't count. You might like it, Royal King. It is Africa, but there aren't any Black people.

It is Africa, but there aren't any Black people.

Posted by: Jimmy Jack the Juggling Clown at March 18, 2008 11:37 PM

It's one of those themed suburbs where she lives in Boise...

I'm on your side and agree with your nickname.

Don't get to set on it, Jeff E. His or Her or Their name(s) change from time-to-time, often on the advice of counsel and for national security reasons.

I'm on your side and agree with your nickname.

Don't get to set on it, Jeff E. His or Her or Their name(s) change from time-to-time, often on the advice of counsel and for national security reasons.

I'm on your side and agree with your nickname.

Don't get to set on it, Jeff E. His or Her or Their name(s) change from time-to-time, often on the advice of counsel and for national security reasons.

I'm on your side and agree with your nickname.

Don't get to set on it, Jeff E. His or Her or Their name(s) change from time-to-time, often on the advice of counsel and for national security reasons.

I'm on your side and agree with your nickname.

Don't get to set on it, Jeff E. His or Her or Their name(s) change from time-to-time, often on the advice of counsel and for national security reasons.

I'm on your side and agree with your nickname.

Don't get to set on it, Jeff E. His or Her or Their name(s) change from time-to-time, often on the advice of counsel and for national security reasons.

Thanks, philby!

Don't get to set on it, Jeff E. His or Her or Their name(s) change from time-to-time, often on the advice of counsel and for national security reasons.

Posted by: Jimmy Jack the Juggling Clown at March 18, 2008 11:43 PM

Terrorist clowns, Jeff E. Stick around. You'll see.

Obama Sucks,

How did you figure out that instead of being an effete male poseur, Flucker is really a butch female impostor?

Sorry to change the subject, but I was just watching O'Reilly, the show that is so often held as the ideal show compared to Countdown.

And so what does O'Reilly do?

After telling a guest he disagrees with that he will 'give him the last word', he takes the last word himself and then cuts his guest off with a tirade.

After telling a guest he disagrees with that he will 'give him the last word', he takes the last word himself and then cuts his guest off with a tirade.

Posted by: Mike at March 18, 2008 11:52 PM

What did O'Reilly disagree with?

"What did O'Reilly disagree with"

An obviously nervous black commentator for a local newspaper who was defending Obama's refusal to disassociate himself with Wright.

"Obama’s bottom line: Everyone’s a victim. You’re part of the problem if you keep talking about Jeremiah Wright. Everyone’s churches have crazy demagogues. Schools need more money. Leave illegal aliens alone. Never mind all the black grievance-mongers who have built careers sowing seeds of divisions. Look at all the talk show hosts and conservative commentators! Elect Obama. Fixer of souls." Michelle Malkin

Pretty good break down of Obamanations speech.

"What did O'Reilly disagree with"

An obviously nervous black commentator for a local newspaper who was defending Obama's refusal to disassociate himself with Wright.
Posted by: Mike at March 18, 2008 11:59 PM

Now name the Republican who has appeared on Countdown who has gotten off that much of a counter view.

I'm going to rub wolfurine's snout into his own racist shit.

It is not going to be pretty, but someone has to do it.

Oh, wolfurine, you better take some of those English classes your "Columbian" wife is teachin' and tell the rest of black folks how easy they had it, in English.

I definitely disagree with Obama's politics but until last week I thought he was as straight forward and honest as a politician can be. It is the nature of the beast to be manipulative.

My opinion took a nose dive. The fact that he has had such a long term voluntary close relationship with a man of Wright's world view is very disturbing to me. I think a few of his wife's comments that didn't sit well with me are understandable now. If he is elected I do think we lose some of the progress that has been made since the civil Rights movement.

Grammie

"Pretty good break down of Obamanations speech."

About as 'good' a break down as the typical Countdown "recap" that SOME posters have said they use as a sole yardstick in which to judge the show.

and kiss Bovine Queen's ass.

Also known as Old and Stupid.

EEEEEWWWWWW!

Sorry to change the subject, but I was just watching O'Reilly, the show that is so often held as the ideal show compared to Countdown.

And so what does O'Reilly do?

After telling a guest he disagrees with that he will 'give him the last word', he takes the last word himself and then cuts his guest off with a tirade.

Posted by: Mike at March 18, 2008 11:52 PM

O'Reilly also gave a black preacher on his show tonight the last word and he did not interrupt him. What is your point? It is his show.

The apathy in this country over racist minorities like Wright, Farrakhan and their ilk is just "business as usual". It's the same old story time after time for years.

First comes the over the top comment made by a racist or rap artist, in which there is somebody with some moral dignity who states the obvious.

Then it is played for a few days (the statements, rants, etc.) for all to see, and then when the obvious can't be denied anymore by the liberal media, they start going on the offensive by saying that it is of no more importance than somebody jaywalking.

Soon after that, it is changed to the conservative media (where you can find it) being the racist's who started it all with their personal agenda's.

Posted by: wolverine at March 18, 2008 1:02 AM

Now to what The Factor just posted:

"Obama’s bottom line: Everyone’s a victim. You’re part of the problem if you keep talking about Jeremiah Wright. Everyone’s churches have crazy demagogues.

Posted by: The Factor at March 19, 2008 12:00 AM

My God! What a shock!

Now to what Mike just posted. Another shock!

An obviously nervous black commentator for a local newspaper who was defending Obama's refusal to disassociate himself with Wright.

Posted by: Mike at March 18, 2008 11:59 PM

Business as usual

"No name the republican who has appeared on Countdown who has gotten off that much of a counter view."

So that was a set up question, eh?

Fair enough, but I tend to take the view that a partially expressed opposition viewpoint that is shouted down at the end can be more biased than avoiding it altogether,

Mike, why would KO cut anyone off to disagree with a guest. They all just parrot what he says right back at him.

Whether KO says it or the guest says it is immaterial because his show is an echo chamber.

Grammie

Fair enough, but I tend to take the view that a partially expressed opposition viewpoint that is shouted down at the end can be more biased than avoiding it altogether,

Posted by: Mike at March 19, 2008 12:12 AM

Actually, you've expressed quite the opposite to Bob Cox.

"What is your point? It's his show."

Having trouble with reading comprehension again?

My POINT was that O'Reilly promised someone the last word.....and then reneged on the promise.

If BO reneged on a "promise" to give someone the last word we should do something about it.

I'll bring the faggots and you bring the pitch forks and we'll storm FNC.

Grammie

My POINT was that O'Reilly promised someone the last word.....and then reneged on the promise.

Posted by: Mike at March 19, 2008 12:16 AM

So write an e-mail and maybe he will read it on the air. How does this compare to any of Olbermann's atrocities?

"How does this compare to any of Olbermann's atrocities?"

That he certainly isn't the only one who lies on the air.

"How does this compare to any of Olbermann's atrocities?"

That he certainly isn't the only one who lies on the air.

Posted by: Mike at March 19, 2008 12:23 AM

If there are any out of the closet Olbermann fans among us now...there you have it... THE best defense anyone can come up with for Olbermann...

12:03. I'm still waiting for your answer to those black terms that you are so familiar with........... but in the meantime I'll just say that I never said the blacks had it easy, just that I know my wife had it harder than them. Also, at least in my hood, I had it much harder too.

Yet, in comparison to your lilly white life, I KNOW everybody where I lived had it harder than you.

And, I'll ask you once again. When was the last time you went out with a black or hispanic? Ever date either even one black or hispanic?

I'm waiting with glee for your answer's to ANY of these questions, or are you just like the white's who would drive down our street to buy drugs, and then flip your finger at us when you were a safe distance away?

You are what we called the "whitey wiper." Now the term is wigger, but we would have had a fun time with you boy, if you ever had the guts to get out of your car.

Whitey wipe for sure.

After telling a guest he disagrees with that he will 'give him the last word', he takes the last word himself and then cuts his guest off with a tirade.

Posted by: Mike at March 18, 2008 11:52 PM

Do you enjoy lying, mike? The dude couldn't hardly put 2 words together. Ever heard of a 'time constraint?' There was no "tirade," either. Bill gave him a chance and he sat there breathing out of his mouth.

"Ever heard of a "Time constaint?""

There was no time constraint here. O'Reilly promised the man the last word, and then immediately shouted him down and engaged in his on little tirade as soon as he attempted to use that "last wiord".

Wolverine, if it helps... I don't know if Patsy has ever dated an African-American or Hispanic person, but I'm sure he's pretended to be them on the internet.

Does that count?

In fact, Patsy once played a cast of thousands single handed in a video production.

Grammie

There was no time constraint here. O'Reilly promised the man the last word, and then immediately shouted him down and engaged in his on little tirade as soon as he attempted to use that "last wiord".

Posted by: Mike at March 19, 2008 12:32 AM

This is an outright lie. I saw it.

in a video production. ***[in his head]****

Grammie
Posted by: Janet Hawkins at March 19, 2008 12:36 AM

PATSY does lots of stuff "single handed".

In fact, Patsy once played a cast of thousands single handed in a video production.

Grammie

Posted by: Janet Hawkins at March 19, 2008 12:36 AM

With philby's assistance. new gal mopped up afterwards and mike parked cars.

I heard he was really tuckered out after writing fan letters to every one of himself and then had to answer them graciously with a signed picture.

Grammie

Rico, you bad boy, you! :)

Grammie

I heard he was really tuckered out after writing fan letters to every one of himself and then had to answer them graciously with a signed picture.

Grammie
Posted by: Janet Hawkins at March 19, 2008 12:44 AM

hahahahaha!!

Grammy,

Remember the halcyon days of Patsy's first alter-- Kulture of the Klan...

You know Cecelia, it really doesn't matter to me if he ever did or not, but it's his obvious lack of knowledge about the black and hispanic race that tell's me he WANTS to say the right thing so that HE will feel better about himself.

You know the "I defended a minority today" BS mentality that most of these liberal's have. But what they are really thinking is something like "I defended them, but I'll be damned if I'll ever hang in their neighborhood."

Regardless if he knows nothing about what he speaks of at least to him he did his "good deed" for the black race today, by calling some white a racist.

Was KoK the same as Coward Watch?

I vaguely remember seeing Kulture of the Klan but I thought that was part of Coward's scthick.

Ah, yes, those were the days when I was infused with dewey eyed innocence with nary a thought that the internet was crawling with creeps.

Grammie

Here he is, Janet. In the flesh, formerly known as 'dark power.'

www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2007/05/meet_the_olbylo.php

1:17. I'm still waiting for your answer's....jb's...mother's day...you know the deal.

Ooooh! "Moron"....Got anything better than that whitey wipe?

...after the nickle bag was bought, and the car was a half mile away...FU! Wolverine!!!...and the car sped off never to be heard from again, as patsy retired to his safe home in the ultra white neighborhood after he yelled at his parents for not having his milk ready when he got home....

...a day in the life of whitey wipe...

...to be continued.

OS, I had a vague memory of DP but having watched both videos (thanks for the link) it is obvious that his full stench had faded away.

To quote Jason Marsh aka Jacke Mason "WHAT A PUTZ"!

Grammie

OS, I had a vague memory of DP but having watched both videos (thanks for the link) it is obvious that his full stench had faded away.

To quote Jason Marsh aka Jacke Mason "WHAT A PUTZ"!

Grammie

OS, I had a vague memory of DP but having watched both videos (thanks for the link) it is obvious that his full stench had faded away.

To quote Jason Marsh aka Jacke Mason "WHAT A PUTZ"!

Grammie

Watch the vid at 1:18, wolv. Patsy in the flesh.

I'm still waiting for PATSY to tell us about the first time he ever ravished a woman.

Wolverine, there is only way to engage Patsy: with ridicule and contempt.

You may have noticed that most of us either ignore Patsy or make him the butt of our jokes. There is a very good reason based on our long experience with s/h/it.

Let me put this as delicately as possible befitting my position as a little old gray haired genteel lady. :)

Patsy is a repulsive, creepy puke whose only goal in life is to sneak in OW to practice being a repulsive, creepy puke!

Grammie

Wolverine, there is only one way to engage Patsy: with ridicule and contempt. He can not, or will not, engage in any reasonable discussion.

You may have noticed that most of us either ignore him or make him the butt of our jokes. This is based on our long exposure to him.

Let me put this as delicately as possible befitting my position as a little old gray haired genteel lady.

Patsy is a repulsive, creepy, puky prick.

His sole goal in life is to sneak into OW and be A REPULSIVE, CREEPY, PUKY PRICK!

Grammie

Sorry for the double post although it is worth repeating if I say so myself.

I posted it and after refreshing five or six times it not appear so I redid it and both appeared.

Grammie

Before I got my new computer my comments remained in the comment section until I deleted them or closed the window. Now if I refresh the window, which has to be done to verify that my comment posted, the comment section is blanked out. Which way is the right way for my computer to act?

Mike, where is the "nuance" in saying that America deserved 9/11? Where is the "nuance" in saying that America invented AIDS so it could kill black people? Where is the "nuance" in saying God Damn America?

You also said that the left doesn't try to prevent free speech. Well, yes they do. Your friends in the left are always trying to get people fired or boycotted such as Bill O'Reilly, John Gibson, Melanie Morgan, and others.

Have you noticed that you get to say all the liberal talking points you want on this website? You want to know what a website you probably like such as Daily Kos does with posts with conservative view points? They get deleted. So please spare me all your nonsense about how liberals are so much better than everybody else in regards to protecting free speech.

James, I thought that there was a great deal of nuance in Reverend Wright's claim that there was a government conspiracy behind Pearl Harbor.

Or did he say that the government lied b/c they knew about Pearl Harbor ahead of time and let it happen. I do sometimes have trouble following the very finest points of nuance.

Damn, Obama and Wright were so nuanced I'm not sure what they said much less what they meant.

I've often heard it said that "patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels". I think in our age that should be replaced by "nuance is the last refuge of scoundrels".

Grammie

After telling a guest he disagrees with that he will 'give him the last word', he takes the last word himself and then cuts his guest off with a tirade.

Posted by: Mike at March 18, 2008 11:52 PM Fair enough, but I tend to take the view that a partially expressed opposition viewpoint that is shouted down at the end can be more biased than avoiding it altogether,
Posted by: Mike at March 19, 2008 12:12 AM My POINT was that O'Reilly promised someone the last word.....and then reneged on the promise.
Posted by: Mike at March 19, 2008 12:16 AM Are you for real? Tirade? Shouted down? Just goes to show how biased you are.The only thing that was even close to the truth was the last word. But even then I did not hear any promises given.I heard "I'll give you the last word".This is something so petty only KO would use to twist into WPITW.I also thought BO treated the man very well. The man wrote a blog that asked what's the big deal over these racist and anti-american statements by Rev.Wright.He was very nervous and unsure of his answers.Bo could have ripped him apart yet agreed with some of them and treated the man very well.On his last word he was asking a question and Bo did cut in to answer,but did so with a smile and thanked him.Either you ran to your computer right after this segment without thinking or your just like KO.

Once again I see the representatives of the rational left here at OW entering their cult of personality.....even overlooking a complete lack of candidness by Obamessiah regarding his claim he did not know about his "spiritual" mentor's anti-American views while using his specch to explain and essentially excuse such hate-filled rhetoric....

I would like those disciples of Obamessiah defend him regarding his decision to continue a relationship with a person who believes the drug problem and AIDS were created by the US government as genocidal weapons against African-Americans.

Please now, give me a rational, reasoned argument that is consistent with previous political attacks against conservatives....

In addition, the references to FDR are exciting.....the cult of personality overlooks the contradiction of recent complaints by the same people (Mike especially) against Bush....that he is a power-grabber "unitary-executive" player who does unconstituional things.....

What about two blatent FDR actions?.....packing The Supreme Court and his executive orders to imprison American citizens based on their ethnicity?.....

Oh my....what the cult does to rational minds! Obamessiah is going to be given carte-blanche to enact soul saving measures to eleviate American's from their racist beliefs and rhetoric.....black, white, melato, etc.....Praise him!...utopia ahead!

"I would like those disciples of Olbamessiah defend him regarding his decision to continue a relationship with a person who believes the drug problem and AIDS were created by the government as genocidal weapons against African-Americans."

To begin with, I fully understand that ANY and ALL explanations regarding the virtues of maintaining personal loyalties to a lifetime friend while rejecting his ratical political views will be lost on you....but the reality is that, in my opinion, it WON'T be lost on others.

As a corollary, all I can say is that if YOU personally discard long time friends and relations in YOUR life simply because they have expressed views that you strongly disagree with....it sure as heck doesn't say much for you as a human being.

"Ooops! Bad! Bad! Bad keyboard!"

Look, the five year old is back. How many times did you jack off last night weener?

"Oh my....what the cult does to rational minds! Obamessiah is going to be given carte-blanche to enact soul saving measures to elavate American's from their racist beliefs and rhetoric....black, white, melato.....Praise him!....utopia ahead."

Utopis? .....no, far from it .....and the only one 'praising' per se him is you in your usual sarcastic manner.

But utopia aside, it might well be the beginnings of a new era in racial and political understanding that will probably be forever remain above your ability to comprehend......just as you have repeatedly expressed a willingness to ignor the real lessons and history of the Vietnam war in favor of revisionism.

No Cee, the likes of YOU are not the ones who we need to convince.....You are simply one of the ones who will be left behind scratching your head again....while America makes another next very necessary leap forward.

"Ooops! Bad! Bad! Bad keyboard!

Oh look, the five year is back. How many times did you jack off last night?

Ok Mike, none of my close friends believe AIDS was a government made virus.....This conspiracy theory is crazy.....Loyalty to someone who has believed such a nutty conspiracy theory says something about the candidate for President....there is no evidence that anyone in his church, including Obamessiah challenged Wright on the theory....he has never claimed to rebut such anti-American theories.....

As a politician running as a "uniter" combined with the fact the AIDS theory is WAYYYYYY out of the mainstream, Obamessiah has not adequetly explained the relationship....Wright is an extremist, period....He is Obamessiah's CLOSE mentor....he married him, baptised his girls and advised him until LAST WEEK!......Loyalty as a friend is not the issue....it is how such a crazy and extreme theory could be allowed to be held without previous challenge until the mainstream press starts asking questions....

Sorry Mike, the explaination is not rational....the election is now about race 100%....and Obamessiah's explaination of his reaction to such radical views that are held by African Americans is not sufficient to those who want a President that is ready to take an oath that has NOTHING to do with "racial healing," or "liberation of people." The President of The United States takes an oath to defend the Constitution and is an AMERICAN executive....not a savior, not a preacher, not a healer.....he is the CEO of a very difficult and complicated organization that has many threats and enemies directed against it. Sorry, but that is the RATIONAL reality that the speech did not address.

Nice words, promises of dialogue, etc. is nice but in response to an exposure of a radical ideology, an ideology that embraces the crazy idea that 9/11 was America's fault, AIDS and drugs were attempts to exterminate blacks....well.....Obamessiah now has this racial sillines still closely connected to him and all of his attempts to distract and avoid it all will not make it go away......

Even with flowery, idealistic words.

ANon @ 5:03's defense of BO's actions last night are very telling and pretty much speak for themselves.

Essentially, he seems to be saying it was perfectly OK to reneg on a promise made to a guest because he did it with a smile....and because a simple face-to-face lie doesn't rise to the level of a promise in his opinion.

VERY telling!

"OK MIke ,none of my close friends believe Aids was a government made virus."

Who cares?

The real question is that would you abandon one of them simply because you found out one of them had such a view?

And if the answer is yes.....do you understand what thet says about YOU?

First we have the weener back:

"Ooops! Bad! Bad! keyboard!"

And now the whiner:

"No Cee, the likes of YOU are not the ones who we need to convince.....You are simply one of the ones who will be left behind scratching your head again....while America makes another next very necessary leap forward."

END QUOTE

Look another big prediction about the outcome of an election. What happened to Gore and Kerry-Heinz.

Mike whines about Swift Boating all the time when these stupid left wing nut job candidates do it to themselves. But, that is the liberal way, blame someone else. Kerry-Heinz was/is a fraud. Mike thinks reports by Dan Rahter and GW's suppossed NG records or the NY Times report about McCain and the lobbyist are fine. You are lacking something Mike and it's not just betweent he legs.

And now we know after yesterdays speech Obamination aint qualified to be President. This man can't even stand up to a racist, bigot and left wing nut job and we are supposed to believe Obama will just haul off into Pakistan and go after Bin Laden. I maybe wrong thought because Obama has the same views of America as Wright.

If you want to see what an Obama administration will look like go to New Orleans or Detroit. He has zero management skills.

Mike whines:

"And if the answer is yes.....do you understand what thet says about YOU?"

END QUOTE

Whine, whine, whine, gooooogooooo, bwaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Your problem right now is your racist, bigot boy is going down the tubes.

Oh, I no more believe you were a Republican than Ted Kennedy ever operated a shovel.

Booooooohooooooooooooo.

Must really suck that Olbermanwatch is the highlight of your day.

Bwahahahahahahaha.

"If you want to see what an Obama administration will look like go to New Orleans or Detroit. He has zero management skills."

THIS....straight from the 'pen' of a poster that many of his own ideological cohorts have already rejected as a liberal shill because of his over-the-top rhetoric that hurts his own side regardless of which 'side' he actually does turn out to represent.

Well Mike, when Obamessiah gives me evidence that he argued against Wright's theory on AIDS, 9/11 and drug genocide, then the argument he is trying to make will finally have heft....he has not....he only condemned such theories recently after 20 years of listening to the crazed lunatic, making him his spiritual mentor and having him officiate over his marriage.....I would have at least challenged the pastor on the AIDS theory....especially if I was a public person with constuents....

especially if I was portraying myself as a uniter of the races......

it is not an honest response from someone portraying himself as a new kind of politician (one who does not remain silent on such divisive issues until the light and heat are on).....

it is not an honest response after your campaign raked HRC over the coals for racial comments from a know liberal democrat and former first female candidate for VP....

it is not an honest response after Obamessiah called for Imus' firing from MSNBC for racial remarks that were hurtful.....

20 Years, Mike....20 years with NO evidence of disagreement UNTIL this campaign.....Why?

The speech did not address it because I believe Obamessiah knows he cannot 100% repudiate the black extremeist BECAUSE he and his ilk are an important part of his constiuency.....

along with those involved with The Nation of Islam.....

A constituency of hate....a constiuency that can be used against Obamessiah just like leftists do with right-wing associates....

politics as usual.

I think this NY Times quote is accurate regarding moderates, independents and conservatives regarding Obamessiah....

"Mr. Obama aimed his speech directly at voters like Linda Smith, a 64-year-old retired teacher from Fishers, Ind., a lifelong Republican who flirted with voting for her first Democrat — Mr. Obama — until she heard his pastor’s words. 'To me Wright’s comments were outrageous and undo everything Barack says he’s trying to do, which is unite people,' she said. She tuned in eagerly to hear Mr. Obama’s address, which struck her as sincere and thoughtful. 'It helped me understand a little bit how he could tolerate Wright’s comments,' she said.

"But Mr. Obama has not yet won her back to his side. 'I still don’t quite understand completely why he would stay in a church like that, unless it’s a typical black church,' she said.

"'There’s a large black church here in Indianapolis,' she mused, 'and I just can’t believe the minister talks like that.'"

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/18/us/politics/19webmemo.html?ei=5065&en=13f33a4f4d3ba9d0&ex=1206504000&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print

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This is the honest analysis....association WITHOUT previous evidence of disagreement is worrying....Obamessiah is competing for President.....not the ward's congressman or Mayor of Detroit.....he is not being honest in the facts of the case and that makes many wonder....

And the speech did not put those doubts to rest....and the issue continues.

I figured out what this blog is all about. You attack Olberman relentlessly because you are ignorant of the facts. You most likely abuse others around you. I wouldn’t doubt that you abused your wife or husband last night. I wouldn’t doubt that you abused yourself this morning before you wrote on this blog. That’s your MO. The ones who attack those they disagree with are emotional and social misfits and destined for a life of chaos and uncertainty.

Oh my....Obamessiah's deification is only working on the left now.....

...but even that seems to be eroding....

"Democrat Barack Obama's big national lead over Hillary Clinton has all but evaporated in the U.S. presidential race, and both Democrats trail Republican John McCain, according a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Wednesday.

"The poll showed Obama had only a statistically insignificant lead of 47 percent to 44 percent over Clinton, down sharply from a 14 point edge he held over her in February when he was riding the tide of 10 straight victories.

[...]

"The poll showed Arizona Sen. McCain, who has clinched the Republican presidential nomination, is benefiting from the lengthy campaign battle between Obama and Clinton, who are now battling to win Pennsylvania on April 22.

"McCain leads 46 percent to 40 percent in a hypothetical matchup against Obama in the November presidential election, according to the poll.

"That is a sharp turnaround from the Reuters/Zogby poll from last month, which showed in a head-to-head matchup that Obama would beat McCain 47 percent to 40 percent.

"'The last couple of weeks have taken a toll on Obama and in a general election match-up, on both Democrats,' said pollster John Zogby.

"Matched up against Clinton, McCain leads 48 percent to 40 percent, narrower than his 50 to 38 percent advantage over her in February.

"'It's not surprising to me that McCain's on top because there is disarray and confusion on the Democratic side,' Zogby said."

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1824791220080319?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true

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What is great about this is that McCain just has to remain silent while Obamessiah and Clinton slug it out and this racial grabage that actually shows the rifts in the left's constituency.....The results of the Pa. primary will be interpreted through the lens of Obamessiah's attempt to make race a central issue and that may actually hurt him in the long run.....

In an attempt to promote racial unity, Obamessiah may actually be the instrument of further racial division....

All because he cannot deal honestly about his base's anti-American rhetoric.....

what a shame.....

weep, faint then weep again.....

Poor wannawipe....a poll showing a decline in Obamessiah's fortunes as race becomes a bigger issue is not important?.....All the while the former POW honorably conducts himself above the frey?.....Aw....it is fun watching two radical leftists have a cat fight....I hope their nails were trimmed....

Sorry dude....the freight train that was OBAMA! has derailed and he sits at just 40% support now....just like all the other pervious democrat nominees....it will once again be a fight for the moderate/independent voters....

these voters do not embrace 9/11, HIV and crack cocaine conspiracy theories nor do they wear funny looking hats and colorful costumes.....

They are typical hard working Americans looking for a solid, quiet and authoritative executive....not a preacher, not a soul saver, not someone ready to lecture on why we are all racist bigots.....

We have people like JJ, Sharpton and Wright for that purpose....The President of The United States of America has many more important duties to perform.

And they do not particularly care about the gender of the person.....that is what America is all about....judging someone on their character.....not race or gender......

So please take your DNC whitewash to a site that cares.....like kos or HuffPo.....

This minority woman (who's was made fun of by the bigot, Keith Olbermann), has a great conclusion to her article regarding Obamessiah's lamentations......

"'These people are a part of me. And they are a part of America, this country that I love,' Obama declared rather stiffly as he stood self-consciously in front of more American flags that he has ever been placed in front of this campaign season.

"Well, you can’t pick your grandma, but you can pick your pastor. And Obama picked the wrong one if he aspires to be the president of all America—an America that includes citizens of all colors who cringe at self-serving racial rationalizations masquerading as moral salvation."

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/19/say-goodbye-to-the-glowbama-mystique/

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Too much honesty, leftists?....Did the sight of so many American flags behind Obamessiah hurt your eyes?

I thought Obamessiah did not like using American flags as tokens of patriotism?....Why were there so many for the first time behind him?

Next, he'll star using the lapel pin again!

weep, faint then weep again!

"Poor Wannawipe....a poll showing a decline in Obamessiah's fortunes as race becomes a bigger issue is not important."

Maybe you should hold the phone until you see hat the latest poll brings following his speech yesterday.....and the next one....and the next one.

The important thing to remember is that it wasn't Obama who injected race into the campaign....only his mud slinging enemies who want America to remain mired in division, rising international debt, and a 'can't do' attitude.

"The speech did not address it because Obamessiah knows he cannot 100% repudiate th black extremist BECAUSE he and his ilk are an important part of his constiuancy."

Just as John McCain cannot repudiate white extremists like Ann Coulter.

> The ones who attack those they disagree with are emotional and social misfits and destined for a life of chaos and uncertainty.

Hmm. Olbermann is approaching 450 attacks on Bill O'Reilly. Hey messenger, just what are you saying about Keithy here?

The speech did not honestly address the years of Obamessiah's acceptance of his close advisors' hate speech, Mike.....I will bet you that HRC will win Pa and this speech will be blamed for her victory by the pundits.....Pennsylvania is your typical "white" working middle class America and Obamessiah has been hemorrhaging these voters recently....a la Ohio.....this speech did not speak to concerns they would have regarding the vile and extreme nature of Obamessiah's spirtual guru and that will haunt the campaign.....

In addition, the anti-American rhetoric that was excused in his speech has nothing to do with very position Obamessiah is campaigning for....POTUS....if he was looking to become the church's district congressman than he would not have to even talk about it....but he knows he needs a broader constituency and is trying to have it both ways....decry the comments but excuse them as well.....

Obamessiah is a good politician but he will not be able to thread that needle.

The messenger spewed: "The ones who attack those they disagree with are emotional and social misfits and destined for a life of chaos and uncertainty."

Like Keith's 400+ attacks on Bill O'Reilly?

Mike spewed: "The important thing to remember is that it wasn't Obama who injected race into the campaign...."

No, Obama injected hate-mongering into his life by his allegiance to bigot Wright.

Posted by: die mrs.edwards die at March 18, 2008 9:19 AM

Is this necessary? lets try to have just a little class, ok?

Just as John McCain cannot repudiate white extremists like Ann Coulter.

Posted by: Mike at March 19, 2008 11:03 AM

Last I heard Ann Coulter was supporting Hillary. Last I checked Ann Coulter wasn't John McCains mentor of 20 yrs. Last I checked AC didn't marry the McCains or baptise their kids. Last I checked McCain hasn't given a lot of money to Ann Coulters church. Last I checked Ann Coulter hasn't said anything near what obamas 'reverend' has said. Should I go on?

The ones who attack those they disagree with are emotional and social misfits and destined for a life of chaos and uncertainty.

Posted by: the messenger at March 19, 2008 9:50 AM

You probably shove your foot in your mouth every morning, don't you?

Katy Tur is listed as a reporter for the WPIX entry in Wikipedia (CW11). Perhaps someone here (Brandon?) would like to start a wiki page on her...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WPIX

Is Dark Power REALLY Patsy?

Patsy, we can help you!

We can give you clothing tips and healthy cooking tips and how to talk to a woman tips!

You don't have to hang around here trying to harass folks! You could be a fairly smart kid! We can get you presentable!

Just as John McCain cannot repudiate white "extremists" like Ann Coulter.

Posted by: Mike at March 19, 2008 11:03 AM

Actually McCain has repudiated them many times. That is probably why Coulter and others don't like him. Your comparison is apples and baseballs. The people that you feel don't have freedom of speech rights have nothing to do with McCain’s campaign. Obama's spiritual advisor was just that, and advisor to Obama's campaign.

The loons at the Ko forum now say Katy Tur is like Tina Fey of SNL:

Marie said: "Katy "appeared" briefly on Dan Patrick's radio show with him and also played the book store customer standing in line in front of him in a Countdown skit when the latest Harry Potter book came out. He says other people describe her as a Tina Fey type, and I can sort of see that."

http://keitholbermann.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=15396

What REALLY happened is that Dan Patrick was getting emails wanting to know what Olbermann's girlfirend looked like. HE said, sort of like Tina Fey. But to the loons, Tur has now morphed into the spirit and talent of a Tina Fey.

Sorry Mike, but you have to get off this Coulter/McCain allegiance, because Coulter herself said that she would vote for Clinton over McCain if Clinton won the democratic nomination.

That's what she said the last time I saw her on Hannity and Holmes about a month ago, and even if she has changed her mind since, I don't think there's any footage of Wright saying he'd vote for McCain.

Matter of fact, I don't believe there's any footage of Wright saying that ANY white ANYWHERE was worth even talking to, none the less to vote for.

"Sorry Mike, but you have to get off this Coulter/McCain allegiance, because Coulter herself said that she ould vote for Clinton over McCain if Clinton won the democratic nomination."

But I don't believe her! I recognize theatrics when I see it.

That said, my point had nothing to do ith Coulter repudiating McCain.....it was dealing with the reality that McCain cannot publicly repudiate Coulter (not anymore anyway).

Olby sucks: "Should I go on."

No, ..... actually, you should shut up if you really want to help your ideological side.

But hey, keep right on....my side can use all the help it can get to get America going in the right direction again..

Mike's Coulter rebuttal simply makes my point about "extremists" associated with candidates calling themselves, "mainstream."

Senator Obama is a one term Senator and before that he was a local pol who had to ignore such extremist ideology to be successful.....now it is haunting him when he is a national pol....

Senator McCain has a long history of being a moderate pol with some conservative views but definetly not a bomb thrower.....he never gets such far right support easily and Coulter is not in his corner.

"Senator McCain has a long history of being a moderate pol with some conservative views but definitiely not a bomb throer."

Well, I hope you're right about him not being a "bomb thrower", when it comes to Iran anyway.

The thing is Cee, I can't really lose in this election because no matter which way it goes, we ill have several orders of magnitude of improvement over what we have been forced to endure over the last 8 years.

However, I do want the best for America....and another injection of old school politics is NOT the best for America at this juncture in time.

When did Coulter become a "white extremist"?

However, I do want the best for America....and another injection of old school politics is NOT the best for America at this juncture in time.

Posted by: Mike at March 19, 2008 12:15 PM

So how is a Democrat who has voted consistently with the liberal wing of the senate not as much "old school politics" as anyone else?

it was dealing with the reality that McCain cannot publicly repudiate Coulter (not anymore anyway).

Posted by: Mike at March 19, 2008 12:04 PM

I think the main point is that whether she was being theatrical or not, it certainly left it open for McCain (if he ever was approached with the question of repudiating Coulter) to repudiate her without him losing any conservative (or liberal votes for that matter) votes as she did say she wasn't voting for him.

McCain, has always been honest in what he feels (which is why he has lost conservative votes along the way), but the big difference in your analogy is that she's not his surrogate "uncle", she did not baptize his kids, marry him, wasn't his mentor, hasn't been close to her for over 20 years, and whatever she has said in the past he would not equate to that being the consensus of all whites, and therefore say in regards to this that he could not repudiate her, as that would be the same as repudiating all whites.

"When did Coulter become a "white extremist?"

If you're so far to the right that you have to ask that question, then the obvious answer (s) would be lost on you.

Olbermann loves polls when they match his ideology so I doubt he will cover the latest Zogby poll showing Obamessiah's loss of democrat support and McCain's increase over both dems nationally.....

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1824791220080319?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true

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Anyone who tries to peddle that a continuing dem race is benefitting the party is lying to themselves....the longer the primary fight goes on the worse it is for them.

"So how is a liberal that voted consistantly with the liberal wing of the democratic party not as much "old school politics" as anyone else."

Eureka! She IS! And that was exactly my point!

Obama represents the ONLY possible real change from old school politics.

Clinton lost me when she chose not to repudiate the K-Street cesspool of corporate lobbyists that HAVE to be cleaned out if real change is going to occur in America.

"When did Coulter become a "white extremist?"

If you're so far to the right that you have to ask that question, then the obvious answer (s) would be lost on you.

Posted by: Mike at March 19, 2008 12:29 PM

Well, try, anyway. It's your statement. When did Coulter become a racist extremist?

Clinton lost me when she chose not to repudiate the K-Street cesspool of corporate lobbyists that HAVE to be cleaned out if real change is going to occur in America.
Posted by: Mike at March 19, 2008 12:35 PM

Oh,there's been a lot of analysis of how those words are translating into actuality lately.

Here's one I saved from O7.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/08/09/pacs_and_lobbyists_aided_obamas_rise/

Hey olby, your 11:35 post was nearly the exacty same post that I made at 12:24.

Is the obvious so obvious to us, or is it that the liberals are so blinded by their love for any liberal candidate no matter how much hate they endorse?

I feel like Mike, who I do enjoy going back and fourth with, should be put in that V-8 commercial and someone should just hit him upside his forehead. Not to hurt of course, but just to wake him up.

Last I heard Ann Coulter was supporting Hillary. Last I checked Ann Coulter wasn't John McCains mentor of 20 yrs. Last I checked AC didn't marry the McCains or baptise their kids. Last I checked McCain hasn't given a lot of money to Ann Coulters church. Last I checked Ann Coulter hasn't said anything near what obamas 'reverend' has said. Should I go on?

mike can't refute one of these points so he resorts to 'shut up!' Chicken shit...

Well, Wolverine, you called me polite, but the moment someone hits me upside my forehead, they won't think I'm all that polite then....Every once in a while, one of you make a ridiculous comment like the one you just made that implies that if, we would just wake up', we would see reality. I always find comments like that condescending and unworthy of anyone who feels they have a serious argument to contribute.

That said, you just made a blanket statement above at 12:50 that I have already repudiated, yet you persist with it anyway. I am not blinded by any 'love' for Hillary and many other so called 'liberals' feel the same way.

In fact, if the 'superdelegates' are stupid enough to overturn the results of the primary, I will likely vote for McCain (or Nader) over Hillary....and that is exactly what the Limbaughs of the world are shooting for with their call for democratic primary interference by republicans.

It's sad when the other side feels like the only way it can win an election is to tear down or cheer for the destruction of the other side, ..... instead of building up their own. It's also sad that they don't seem to care that negative politics tears EVERYONE down....not just the opposition.

"mike can't refute one of these points so he resorts to "shut up".

But you see, I had already refuted ALL of them before you even made that silly post you say I didn't "refute" (see 12:04 PM).

As for the "sut up" comment.....you ASKED me if you should go on....remember?

Last I heard Ann Coulter was supporting Hillary. Last I checked Ann Coulter wasn't John McCains mentor of 20 yrs. Last I checked AC didn't marry the McCains or baptise their kids. Last I checked McCain hasn't given a lot of money to Ann Coulters church. Last I checked Ann Coulter hasn't said anything near what obamas 'reverend' has said. Should I go on?

Posted by: olby SUCKS at March 19, 2008 11:35 AM

"Sorry Mike, but you have to get off this Coulter/McCain allegiance, because Coulter herself said that she ould vote for Clinton over McCain if Clinton won the democratic nomination."

But I don't believe her! I recognize theatrics when I see it.

That said, my point had nothing to do ith Coulter repudiating McCain.....it was dealing with the reality that McCain cannot publicly repudiate Coulter (not anymore anyway).

Posted by: Mike at March 19, 2008 12:04 PM

Funny, I see no 'refute'.

RK, from McCain\'s Butt Buddy Hagee: Obama\'s pastor has never said anything so vile. Debunked again...

On Catholics:

“Most readers will be shocked by the clear record of history linking Adolf Hitler and the Roman Catholic Church in a conspiracy to exterminate the Jews.” - Jerusalem Countdown (revised edition, 2007, p. 114)

\'A Godless theology of hate that no one dared try to stop for a thousand years produced a harvest of hate.’

\'The Roman Catholic Church, which was supposed to carry the light of the gospel, plunged the world into the Dark Ages.... The Crusaders were a motley mob of thieves, rapists, robbers, and murderers whose sins had been forgiven by the pope in advance of the Crusade.... \'

On Jews:

\'It was the disobedience and rebellion of the Jews, God\'s chosen people, to their covenantal responsibility to serve only the one true God, Jehovah, that gave rise to the opposition and persecution that they experienced beginning in Canaan and continuing to this very day... Their own rebellion had birthed the seed of anti-Semitism that would arise and bring destruction to them for centuries to come.... it rises from the judgment of God upon his rebellious chosen people.\'

On Katrina:

\'n the September 18, 2006, edition of National Public Radio\'s Fresh Air, Hagee stated that Hurricane Katrina was an act of God, punishing New Orleans for \"a level of sin that was offensive to God\". He specifically referred to a \"homosexual parade\"\'

Obama denounced the remarks of his pastor, will McCain? Debuncked as always.

Poor anon poster tries and fails......

"Obama denounced the remarks of his pastor"

When?.....Twenty years after benefiting from such hate speech....Nice....Oh, and I did not hear Obamessiah refute Wright's claim that AIDS and drugs was a US government conspiracy to kill off the black race in America.....

Nope...sorry....he still is the man's CLOSE confidant and friend.....Obamessiah has a hate monger in his close circle of friends for over 20 years...officiated his marriage and baptised his children.....a hate monger.....

Oh my...and what does the poor apologist have in response....an endorcement by a right-wing minister who is simply endorcing McCain as a leader of a church....not his guru like Wright is to Obamessiah and not his close friend either!

Oh my.....what a nice racist story this is becoming!....The first serious African-American candidate for President closely asscoiated with hate speech.

categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies,\" Obama said in his blog posting. \"I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it\'s on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Reverend Wright that are at issue.\"

Now back to McCain Cee when has he denounced Hagee? Looks like McCain/Lobbyist is showing his true colors yet again. But don\'t cry Cee. Save that for the election.

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