Keith Olberman * Tokyo Rose*

Does no one at NBC News have the integrity to stand up to this shameless, partisan hack?

Does no one at NBC News have the integrity to stand up to this shameless, partisan hack? Do they not realize what he (and his loyal consort Chrissy Matthews) are doing, not only to the reputations of MSObamessiah/NBC News/GE but to journalism in general? Tim Russert, Brian Williams, and even Tom Brokaw must be so proud to be associated with the all-powerful Keith "All the Truth Kos Sees Fit to Print" Olbermann.

God this guy pisses me off.

Does no one at NBC News have the integrity to stand up to this shameless, partisan hack? Do they not realize what he (and his loyal consort Chrissy Matthews) are doing, not only to the reputations of MSObamessiah/NBC News/GE but to journalism in general? Tim Russert, Brian Williams, and even Tom Brokaw must be so proud to be associated with the all-powerful Keith "All the Truth Kos Sees Fit to Print" Olbermann.

God this guy pisses me off.

"an online journalist"

Aww... but you know the poor guy wanted his "ugly mug" on Countdown.

A pity, "Troutfishing" remains out of the spot-light when all Olby had to do was drop his name. It seems Olby needs to learn to give props to the Kos Kid community.

Where's the love, Olby? Where's the love?

Jeez, sorry for the post-bomb there :(

johnny does MSNBC still run that promo with Olbermann saying we should ignore partisanship? I think people on both sides of the aisle got a good laugh hearing Keith Olbermann denounce partisanship.

They do run it from time to time, but thanks for reminding me of it. I'm adding our own OlbyWatch Remix version to the end of this article. It just seems to fit somehow.

And Scott, kudos to you for spotting that Oralmann exchange hidden deep in the bowels of Kos. It was the inspiration for tonight's Special Recap.

Geez, this John Hagee thing again? Is that all these losers have? Obamanation sat in the pew of an Anti-Semite for 20 years. He went the million man march with Calypso Louie. Obamanation just said the Hamas has some legitimate claims. John McCain shook John Hagee's hand. What am I missing here?

This is why Olby Watch is essential reading material.

Once again, Johnny Dollar, you have outdone yourself.

With Olby it's all lift and read
To his prompter the blue blogs feed
Another NBC hack
Ethics way out of whack
Like a game show: You've been NBC'd!

Ok KO and other Obama defenders have said that his 20yr relationship with Rev.Wright means nothing and shouldn't be used against him and have attacked FOX news for reporting on it...but now KO and others are saying that McCain who as I said before hasn't spent 20min with Hagee should have that held against Him?....oh Edward R. Murrow is rolling in his grave because this buffoon has actually declared himself his heir apparent...new Murrow indeed.

I wish I could say that this should concern NBC..but as we have seen the MSM isn't even trying to Hide it's bias anymore..you got reporters joining Obama's campaign,using edited or misleading video of comments by Bush and McCain..Commentator talking about shiver's up their legs about Obama,biased Commentators hosting debates and even help rig them and it's only going to get worse once the General Election comes around..

KO hasn't even started on McCain..I will not be surprised if before the end KO and others start attacking McCain POW experience and try to use those 5yrs against him in some fashion.

Plus I wish someone would keep reminding everyone about the vile nature of the members of Daily Kos whose own leader said "Screw Them" about the death of 4 contract workers in Iraq(who I guess KO considers "Bloody Killers"and deserving of death) not to mention all the Anti-semitism that exist there.

Oh, by the way, in the Media Matters Minute:
Worse went to Mitt Romney, which I assume was taken from his appearance "Fox and Friends" yesterday morning...seconds after Steve Doocy appropriately tore into Oralmann. Fat Ass did a mock Romney impression and even referred to the Governor (by accident?) as "Nit Romney." He intentionally said Romney "doesn't have a brain." Nice. Here's the segment in context:

http://tinyurl.com/59s9lg

Worser was an excoriation of Ed Gillespie ("like a high school sophomore") after his "embarrasing letter on behalf of the White House" to NBC News. "Bias that isn't there in an edit that wasn't there to turn a news organization into a scapegoat that won't be there. The letter was juvenile and Fox Newsy enough that it sounded as if the White House works for them...rather than the other way around." Hmm. Seems like Merkle is looking for bias that isn't there, wasn't there, and won't be there.
Worst was "lunatic fringe water carrier" [ding!] [ding!] and "Comic Book Guy!" Hugh Hewitt, "the dummy to Gillespie's ventriloquist." How dare he refer to Edward R. Olbermann as a sports guy in an interview with Gillespie! "Out of date by about 10 years"! "Fringes." [ding!] Gillespie and Hewitt are "TWO Comic Book Guys!" You make the third, Frank Olbermann. (Greg Gutfeld called Keith that on "Red Eye" last Friday.)
Okay, I'm done.

Okay, I didn't know that would happen when I posted the link. Sorry.

Out of date by 10 years? Who's that orange-faced zucchini who does football Sunday nights on NBC?

Look, I'm not a lawyer but this must be a gross violation of ethics in journalism. Maybe we can ask Mark Levin who is a lawyer. A quick Google gave me 3 codes and they were all quite similar. All #1 in the codes read something like this:

I. RESPONSIBILITY: The public's right to know of events of public importance and interest is the overriding mission of the mass media. The purpose of distributing news and enlightened opinion is to serve the general welfare. Journalists who use their professional status as representatives of the public for selfish or other unworthy motives violate a high trust.

Maybe soon Johnny you won't need this site, I'll always go to J$ Place though ;)

MikeH, use tinyurl when you post a link and it will come out much better. I fixed your entry.

Thanks, Johnny. And thanks for the post-recap flashback video.

Hey Johnny, thanks!

That's me, watching Kos so you don't have to! )

The baseball card collector is making fun of the comic book guy?

What a hoot.

Yeah, he makes fun of two guys who read comic books when they were kids, and then he goes off to public readings of Harry Potter!

Robert, remember my comment in my email stating that you were probably throwing out the baby with the bathwater and creating nothing but a very boring echo chamber with your new and "improved" controlled comments feature?

Well......the proof is in the pudding.

Since May 16, you have averaged just about 10 short comments per thread.

Yawn!

MikeH

I suppose we could fix that by posting about 28 different posts each of "BU$HWIPES" and links to completely off-topic news articles and blog posts if your pining for the "good-old days." Throw in a few spam posts for good measure, and that would definitely up the comment count.

Just seeing that nine-letter B-word makes me shudder.

By Olby Sucks on May 16, 2008 12:15 PM
Here you go, mikeh. Mathews in action........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...h?v=PGeu_4Ekx- o

By Olby Sucks on May 16, 2008 12:28 PM
Wasn't slobber face the clown who didn't know who was president when The Cole was bombed? Yes, it was. Then there's this.....

From Jack Bauer's comment @ NB and his blog:

"It's quite amusing to listen to the likes of the spittle drooling Matthews, Shuster and the rest of MSNBC's Obama worshipping hacks, who don't know much about history.

Memo to MSNBC: the actual policy of appeasing Hitler DID NOT begin and end with the Munich Agreement which shamefully recognized Hitler's right to the Sudetenland.

Appeasement of Hitler began in 1933 and ran thru to 1939, with Chamberlain being an integral part of all the meaningless "talks" and "diplomacy," to which Hitler had NO intent of ever being persuaded by.

He simply used that time to plot and build up his armed forces whilst breaking every treaty. It was what he planned all along, NO MATTER what France and England said, did, threatened, blustered or capitulated on."

By johnny dollar on May 16, 2008 1:07 PM
> Chris Mathews absolute destruction of RW radio commentator

So matthews berating someone for not knowing history, when he himself doesn't even know who was President was the Cole was bombed...that is "absolute destruction"? Of Matthews's credibility, perhaps. But I'll bet when it was over he got that tingle going up his leg.

"the actual policy of appeasing Hitler DID NOT begin and end with the Munich Agreement which shamefully recognized Hitler's right to the Sudetenland."

Maybe not, but the historical definition of the word "appeasement" does NOT refer to simply TALKING to one's adversary.

Nice selective response! A+!

"Nice selective response! A+"

What were you looking for? ...... an analysis over whether it is worse to know when a warship was attacked, .... or whether you understand the meaning of one of the crucial terms coming out of the worst event in modern history?

You know MikeH, it almost seems like you are trying to avoid discussing the fact that an NBC news "anchor" signed up with a partisan group to take down a Presidential candidate, did their bidding in putting a story on, neglected to tell his audience the source, lied that it came from a "journalist", and then kept secret his agreement to help take down the Presidential candidate.

It just seems like you don't want to discuss that. But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.

Chris Mathews absolute destruction of RW radio commentator

by mikeh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...h?v=PGeu_4Ekx- o

By Olby Sucks on May 16, 2008 12:28 PM

Wasn't slobber face the clown who didn't know who was president when The Cole was bombed? Yes, it was.

How long before olbyonesidedkanoby has a 1 hr special on Hagee?

"It just seems like you don't want to discuss that. But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong."

And exactly why should I care to discuss that?

As long as Fox "News" stains Cable News with unchecked right wing bias, ..... and as long as Hannity, Levin, Ingram, Limbaugh, and company continues to pollute our public airwaves with unchecked hate and half-truths against the left.......

Why would I or any other reasonable person have a problem with Keith Olbermann?

Why would I or any other reasonable person have a problem with Keith Olbermann?

by mikeh

Liberal hypocrisy on full display! One more thing. I'm not surprised you avoided trying to defend the drooler. Can't wait to see McCains adds showing obama flip flopping on Iran. Gonna be sweeeeeet!

Congratulations! You win the award! For the first time since registered comments, at least as far as I know, you rushed to divert attention from the subject of this website by bringing up the dreaded Rush O'Hannity. Only you forgot the O' part. Well, he is on vacation this week.

> And exactly why should I care to discuss that?

Because that just happens to be the subject matter of this website, Einstein. If you don't want to discuss it, why did you rush to bang out an email and beg Mr Cox to let you be a commenter here? So that you could discuss anything EXCEPT the infamous, deplorable Keith Olbermann.

Oh wait, yeah, that IS the approved method of Olby-defense: change the subject. Don't look at Olbermann. Look at that man over there behind the tree!

Gee, if only patsy were here to back you up...

Mike,

Perhaps you would feel more at home at Newshounds. They can tell you all about the evil Fox News. But they are a sensitive lot, so easy to offend.

".....unchecked hate......"????? Mike, that is a little over the top, is it not? Hyperbole should be used sparingly. It's a long way to November, and you should save some of your ammo until after Labor Day.

Just remember, your boy will not be President, so don't get your hopes up. Swoon not!

Mr. MIKHHHHHHed:
"As long as Fox "News" stains Cable News with unchecked right wing bias, ..... and as long as Hannity, Levin, Ingram, Limbaugh, and company continues(sic) to pollute our public airwaves with unchecked hate and half-truths against the left.......

Why would I or any other reasonable person have a problem with Keith Olbermann?"

Though he tries to seperate these two thoughts, they are, in fact, one interrogatory sentence, based upon fallacious cause and effect and flawed logic:

As long as X, why would I Z?

Even conceding that X is something he or any reasonable person would have a problem with, it does not follow that there is no reason to have a problem with Z. What that argument does show is selective attention, perception and retention coupled with a double-standard.

Example: As long as SUVs, tractor trailers and pick-up trucks driving south attain speeds over 100mph, weave in and out of traffic, tailgate and drive the wrong way in the northbound lane.....

Why would I or any other reasonable person have a problem with a fleet of hybrids driving east doing the same things...?

Now, what were we talking about?

Is a cable news network actually polluting the "public airwaves"? Pretty sure that's not the case.

And I think the whole "don't say mean things about Keith, Fox and Rush and (fill in the blank) are so much worse" thing has pretty well run its course.

There are plenty of websites where they bash Rush, and Fox, and Hannity, et al. This one is centered on the Kos spokesperson, Keith Olbermann.

This is why Olbermann and the usual anti-semitic radical left keeps trying to use Hagee against McCain....

"'The people here, liberal people, will not vote for Obama because of his attitude towards Israel,' Ms. Weitz, 83, said, lingering over brunch.

"'They’re going to vote for McCain,' she said.

"Ms. Grossman, 80, agreed with her friend’s conclusion, but not her reasoning.

"'They’ll pick on the minister thing, they’ll pick on the wife, but the major issue is color,' she said, quietly fingering a coffee cup. Ms. Grossman said she was thinking of voting for Mr. Obama, who is leading in the delegate count for the nomination, as was Ms. Weitz.

"But Ms. Grossman does not tell the neighbors. 'I keep my mouth shut,' she said.

"On Thursday, Mr. Obama will court Jewish voters with an appearance at a synagogue in Boca Raton, Fla. A longtime Democratic constituency with a consistently high turnout rate, Jews are important to his general election hopes, particularly in New York, which he expects to win; in California and New Jersey, which he must keep out of Republican hands; and, most crucially, here in Florida, where Jews make up around 5 percent of voters.

"This is the most haunted state on the electoral college map for Democrats, the one they lost by hundreds of votes and a Supreme Court decision in 2000, and again in 2004.

"'The fate of the world for the next four years,' mused Rabbi Ruvi New as his Sunday morning Kabbalah & Coffee class dispersed in East Boca Raton.

"'It’s all going to boil down to a few old Jews in Century Village,' he added, referring to a nearby retirement community."

http://tinyurl.com/6gr4t6

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And it is so amusing coming fro kos...the radical leftist website is filled with anti-semites.

This is all about votes and wedge issues. It is a shame that as people like Mike H decry the use of such tactics, they are hypocritical enough to excuse it when their guy uses it.

I say keep trying, Olbermann. Hagee is a nonissue simply because McCain has an actual record that is positive regarding Israel that refutes the claims. SNOBamessiah has NO real voting or policy history regarding Israel....only unsupported rhetoric and his MEMBERSHIP in a church with close ties to Farrakhan's Nation of Islam....along with the bile from his spiritual advisor, close friend and church leader for over 20 years.

Let's see, the race is now about gender, race, anti-semitism and religion....Oh yeah!....SNOBamessiah is really making this election a UNIFYING one!

Oh, and along with Joe Lieberman, an Orthodox Jew, another prominent Democrat, and popular figure in the jewish community, may be backing McCain over Obama in the fall:

"In an exclusive Newsmax interview, Koch says McCain 'has no equal' when it comes to opposing Islamic terrorism. Though Koch says he disagrees with most of McCain’s positions on domestic issues, he could support him because of his strong national security credentials.

"Koch carries significant weight with many Jewish Democrats in New York and across the country. He also has a history of playing the maverick and crossing party lines.

"He has backed several New York Republicans, including Rudy Giuliani and Michael Bloomberg for New York City mayor, Al D'Amato for the U.S. Senate, and George Pataki for New York governor. In 2004 he endorsed his first Republican for president, George W. Bush. Koch actively campaigned in several states, including Florida and Ohio.

"Bush won both states."

http://tinyurl.com/4ahp5r

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The fact remains that The Democrat party is being taken over by the radical left and many moderate, sane Democrats are not thrilled....a la the continued campaigning of HRC....

Read kos and see how they are approaching such people like Koch and Lieberman....they are being branded TRAITORS. Oh the Scarlet Letter mentality of the SNOBamessiah following kos kids and Olbermann....such love and tolerance!

SNOBamessiah is such a unifying figure (sarcasm)!

MikeH wrote:

"Robert, remember my comment in my email stating that you were probably throwing out the baby with the bathwater and creating nothing but a very boring echo chamber with your new and "improved" controlled comments feature? Well......the proof is in the pudding. Since May 16, you have averaged just about 10 short comments per thread. Yawn!"

I don't recall specifically, no but you might recall my posts about this matter. For four years I did not require registered commenters because I prefer allowing newbies to drop by and join in the conversation. I have plenty of experiencing with blogging and am well aware that requiring registration would dramatically cut down on comments - in the short run. I wrote about that several times. I allowed open commenting even when there were concerted efforts by OlbyLoons on Democratic Underground, Daily Kos, Air America Radio forums and other far-left online hangouts to organize "attacks" on this site to "shut it down". I allowed all sorts of vitriolic, over the top language including foul-mouthed ad hominem attacks on me. I am entirely confident that I have nothing to apologize for in making every possible effort to keep the comments open. But when things devolve to the point where comments include graphic references to bestiality, incest, child rape, etc. then I no longer feel I have any choice. We may disagree politically but I can't imagine you would defend the "right" of commenters to post such things on someone else's web site.

The downside of requiring registration in order to comment is less comments. The upside is that there is some measure of accountability among commenters and therefore a decreased likelihood of the sort of behavior which led me to change our policy in the first place.

Your description of our new policy as "controlled comments feature" reflects, perhaps, an inability to understand that there are TWO sides to "free speech". No one here is "controlling" your comments. You are free to defend Olbermann and the Democrats all you want on this site. All I ask is that you and other commenters here operate within some very widely drawn boundaries of taste. Not applying this to you but an OlbyLoon's right to defend Keith Olbermann ends when it is done by interfering with others right to criticize him. The individual(s) commenters who led me to change our policy were not, in my estimation, seeking to debate but rather to suppress debate by sowing chaos in the comments threads. Meanwhile other folks were attempting to actually shut down the site through DoS attacks (and if you do not understand that there is an element at Daily Kos that actively in engages in coordinate DoS attacks on anti-left/right-wing sites then you are simply uninformed).

Given all this what would you propose? That the registration requirement be removed? That's not going to happen. I always knew that once I made the decision to enable the registration features I would never go back to open comments. That's a big part of why I resisted making that change.

I wonder why you would even make this observation today? Are you feeling outgunned? You are the only Olbypologist commenting on this site these days. Apparently your solution is allow the same vile creatures who were posting here before back in. I have a better idea.

The solution to "bad" speech is "good" speech. If you think the comments section is an "echo chamber" then why don't you DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. We have no policy that prohibits a pro-KO point of view on this site (as your comments clearly show). We welcome pro-KO guest posts and have had them. We've always welcomes pro-KO commenters.

Rather than cry about it why don't you offer to write a guest post or two. Or how about recruiting some more folks like yourself to sign up to comment.

I will even help out...

CALLING ALL OLBYLOONS: If you would like to join MikeH in defending Keith Olbermann on this blog send an email to me at "robert_a_cox" at yahoo. If you can comport yourself in a manner like MikeH your are more than welcome to join in the discussion here at Olbermann Watch.

Finally, MikeH there is another measure of success here at Olbermann Watch besides comments (although comments ARE an important measure). If you click through SiteMeter (bottom, left rail) for Olbermann Watch you can see are traffic in terms of unique visitors and page views. If you look at the 12-month data you will see that in the period covering last spring and summer we were averaging about 40,000 unique visitors per month. You will then see that the traffic started to rise, hitting a high of 112K in March 2008. At some point along the way much of the traffic growth was the trolls repeatedly coming back into the site (which you referenced indirectly by noting the DECLINE in comments since March). I am not going to go through all the data with readers but what I care about is "legitimate" traffic. These are "real" readers, the kind of people we want on the site and the kind of people who will click on ads which helps cover the cost of the site (our blogads dried up as a direct result of trolls because our click-thru rate became VERY low and thus advertisers passed on buying ads on our site; our click-thru rate has now begun to recover nicely and I expect you will start to see blogs ad buys coming through over the next couple of months as our moving average improves).

Given all this what I am looking at right now is the limited post-registration required data and the preliminary data is promising. After a major drop between March and April (112k to 54k) caused by closing comments we have rebounded nicely (54k to 73k for a partial month). We are currently on track to hit 100,000 unique visitors in May which means we will be close to the troll-based numbers of 4Q07 and 1Q08 without trolls.

As noted, closing comments hurts in the SHORT RUN but over the long-run the more civil tone on the site (not "civil" per se but MORE civil than it was) helps. First, the number of commenters will grow over time and they will become more active as they realize the environment in the threads is healthier. Second, more readers who find the blog will stay to become regular readers. Third, other sites will be more willing to link us now that we've cleaned up the comments (not to mention radio shows as in the nice mention we got yesterday on national radio)

The problem then, MikeH is not that Olbermann Watch is "suffering" but that YOU are now outnumbered about 50:1.

I do not want that to be the case. I would like to get some more pro-KO voices on the site but I have no control over that. The problem as I see it is that OlbyLoons are, by definition, people who don't want to be responsible for themselves and therefore registering on this site and being accountable for what they say here is anathema to them.

MikeH, and any supporter of SNOBamessiah, will never go against Keith Olbermann because he is their chief propagandist and hitman on cable news. Along, with Matthews, Olbermann serves the democrat's campaign plans in pushing agendas, distraction and innuendo. No matter that he is supposed to be an objective journalist and treat both candidates for president fairly.....that standard has been abandoned at NBC NEWS!

And as far as defending Keith Olbermann, he is not defendable....so the silence will continue. In my opinion, the silence speaks volumes to the truth about what Olbermann always was and is.....a radical leftist shill.

And a zucchini.

Bravo....

johnny $ wrote: "Yeah, he makes fun of two guys who read comic books when they were kids, and then he goes off to public readings of Harry Potter!"

...how about Edward R. Douchebag's "Roadrunner/Wile E. Coyote" political analogies?

As Bugs Bunny would say: "What a palooka!"

But when things devolve to the point where comments include graphic references to bestiality, incest, child rape, etc. then I no longer feel I have any choice.

by Robert

mikeh, see this? People on your side caused Robert to switch to a register site. The same ones who you used to rely upon defense from which you needed so often! Why don't you cry to them?

I wonder if Tim Russert should allow MEET THE PRESS to be exposed to such a vile kos kid like Keith Olbermann.....

"Doocy said he also, 'heard a rumor that that guy, Keith Olbermann, might actually fill in for Tim Russert hosting 'Meet the Press.' (complete with graphic of Olbermann's head planted on Russert's body.)

"'Can you imagine how Tim Russert would feel if that guy filled in for him on the longest running television show in American history?' asked Doocy.

"Probably the same way Chris Wallace would feel if Bill O'Reilly filled in on Fox News Sunday. Which is why it will be a cold day in 'h' before either happens."

http://tinyurl.com/6mgdcj

Bob,

You're too nice, MikeH couldn't care less about the quality of this site. He has repeatedly decried it as being a "hate site", utterly aware of the particular connotations of that term.

His only real gripe with the new software is that he doesn't have the sock puppet and strawman sock puppet distractions and so must rely upon his own abilities in a debate.

In turn, my sole complaint is that access wasn't granted to a smarter liberal.

Goodness knows it shouldn't have been hard to find a liberal smarter than MikeH. Nearly everyone of any political persuasion is.

"Why would I or any other reasonable person have a problem with Keith Olbermann?"

by mikeh

I think this would be a GREAT title for a "Meet The Olbyloon" topic. It deserves a page of it's own.

First off, mikeh, Olbermahn is a discredited serial liar.

I do not associate with anyone else's remarks or point of view only my own. Even though I disagree with MikeH on the things he comments on here I would not hold him accountable for what other OlbyLoons post here. I would not endorse anyone else doing that either.

The point is not to blame MikeH for what other people wrote but to encourage him to either make better arguments or to find some other like minded individuals to help him make his case.

Either is preferable to whining about Olbermann Watch being an "echo chamber".

"By Scott on May 21, 2008 11:02 PM
MikeH

I suppose we could fix that by posting about 28 different posts each of "BU$HWIPES" and links to completely off-topic news articles and blog posts if your pining for the "good-old days." Throw in a few spam posts for good measure, and that would definitely up the comment count."

I'm surprised that we hadn't realized how some might be suffering without all those things that once said "home" to them here at OW.

MikeH, just let us know if you would also like a dozen or so comments either signed by Hag-zilla, Pastor DUMBF**K, Now, you TWO OLD BITCHES ...,HAG-ZILLA! FETCH!, DUMBSH...., and a few comments mooing at everyone to ease your transition into the new, gentler OW.

Grammie

Perhaps it will be mentioned on COUNTDOWN tonight because SNOBamessiah has decided to question John McCain's respect for the troops....Well Senator McCain has issued a wonderful statement attacking SNOBamessiah's attack on his character, especially as someone who actually served our country in uniform:

A snipet:

"I know that my friend and fellow veteran, Senator Jim Webb, an honorable man who takes his responsibility to veterans very seriously, has offered legislation with very generous benefits. I respect and admire his position, and I would never suggest that he has anything other than the best of intentions to honor the service of deserving veterans. Both Senator Webb and I are united in our deep appreciation for the men and women who risk their lives so that the rest of us may be secure in our freedom. And I take a backseat to no one in my affection, respect and devotion to veterans. And I will not accept from Senator Obama, who did not feel it was his responsibility to serve our country in uniform, any lectures on my regard for those who did.

[...]

"Perhaps, if Senator Obama would take the time and trouble to understand this issue he would learn to debate an honest disagreement respectfully. But, as he always does, he prefers impugning the motives of his opponent, and exploiting a thoughtful difference of opinion to advance his own ambitions. If that is how he would behave as President, the country would regret his election."

http://tinyurl.com/622xkq

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What a shot. SNOBamessiah's chief cheerleader may bring this issue up but I doubt he will cover it fairly and give Senator McCain's great retort in full. Or perhaps Olbermann will decide to beat the dead horse call Hagee.

Check this out in the comments by a KozKid:

" * [new] Pastor Hagee - Just like Reverend Wright Except.. (1+ / 0-)
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Pastor Hagee doesn't have Reverend Wright's soft-spoken nature and careful sensitivity to make sure that he is not offensive to his listeners.

(In reality, I think Reverend Wright may be a little peculiar, but I think he has his community's best interest at heart. Not so with Pastor Hagee). "

Wright's "...soft-spoken nature and careful sensitivity to make sure that he is not offensive to his listeners." first struck me when I saw his sermon when he was pumping his pelvis back and forth while screaming that Bill Clinton is "riding us dirty" just like he "rode Monica dirty.

How could any Pastor top that for gentle sensitivity.

The Hagee issue is dead. McCain has consistently rejected his controversial views, now basically rejecting his endorcement after the last comments regarding The Holocaust.

Contrast this with how SNOBamessiah dealt with Pastor Wright, trying to have it both ways and he STILL is a member of Trinity UCC, a church with ties to The Nation of Islam and lead by minister who defends the views of Wright. The anti-American views of Wright and SNOBamessiah's slow and very unimpressive repudiation after 20 years will continue to dog him.

Hagee is now old news because of McCain's forceful and rapid rejection as well as his loose connections with the minister.

Olbermann can try as he might, but Hagee is not Wright and trying to use him as a wedge issue with regards to the Jewish vote is a nonstarter.....

Especially as McCain has Lieberman's and possible Ed Koch's endorcement.

Smackdown!

WooooooW! Don't put away the silly string and party hat's, mikeh. It's all hagee all the time from here on out on yuor favorite liars comedy hour!

How will KO and the rest of MSDNC stretch the Hagee non-story now?..it took Obama 20yrs to reject Wright it only took McCain a few months to reject Hagee...I mean How on one hand can they bash McCain for this and at the same time say it's no big deal for Obama?.

I guess they'll have to try to make a big deal out of McCains medical records release and suggest he's trying to hide some something by restricting the number of Reporters who can access it...there I just did KO work for him. LOL!!

J$: "If you don't want to discuss it, then why did you rush out with an email and beg Mr. Cox to let you be a commentor here?"

Lets see, where do we start Mr. Johnny distortion himself?

First off, I hardly "rushed" out with an email. I actually waited for several weeks after the initial 'invitation' before doing it...mostly just to see if Robert would indeed approve an opposition voice. To his credit, he did.

Second, I did anything BUT 'beg' for the dubious 'privilage'. Maybe you could get him to share the email with you and then see if you could still spin it that way in the face of overwhelming contrary evidence. ..... Knowing you and how you operate however, you could probably spin a knot in a reinforced steel post.

Third, if YOU were the site's owner instead of Robert, I never would have sent that email at all. You see, Mr. spinmaster, YOU are the one who has been railing against so called "off topic" posting, NOT Robert Cox!

You see Johnny, If you can't see the relationship between defending an ideology represented by a commentator, and defending the commentator himself, that's YOUR problem Jack!

And finally, if you can't see the obvious hypocrisy of attacking a commentor whose ideology you happen to dislike, while claiming the proliferation of opposition commentators who are themselves FAR more hateful, deceptive, and insulting than KO is somehow irrelevant, then you have yet another problem tainting your own objectivity.

PS....Have you noticed how the commenting on this thread took off like a rocket after I (apparently, the ONLY opposition voice), chimed in last night? ....Think about it!

"How will KO and the rest of MSDNC stretch the Hagee non-story now?.....The same way the media, including "MSDNC" continued to "stretch" the Wright "non-story well after he had rejected his ideas, and then him."

"I mean, how on one hand can they bash McCain for this and at the same time say it's no big deal for Obama?......It's called payback!......Or fighting fire with fire!......Or jumping into the gutter to engage your opponents because they refuse to come out on their own!

Cecelia: "In turn, my sole complaint is that access wasn't granted to a smarter liberal."

While there are certainly plenty of "smarter liberals" out there than myself, if you are the embodiment of a 'smart conservative', then their services would be better utilized elsewhere.

> the obvious hypocrisy of attacking a commentor whose ideology you happen to dislike, while claiming the proliferation of opposition commentators who are themselves FAR more hateful, deceptive, and insulting than KO is somehow irrelevant

Well you tell me, genius. If you go over to the I Hate Bill O'Reilly site and start posting there about how terrible Keith Olbermann is, how far do you think you will get? They'll boot you out so fast you won't even feel it until after you're out the door. We are much more tolerant here. We permit Olbyloons to come here and spin, divert, and distort to their heart's content. But that doesn't give you some sort of all-day free pass to do it with abandon. There is a thing here called dialogue. When you say something, that gives others the right to respond, and to point out how lame your attempts to distract from the topic of Olbermoronn really are. You may think your off-topic stream-of-consciousness drivel is untouchable and beyond criticism. But it ain't. You want an echo chamber, go back to the hounds, or Kos, or wherever you regular haunts are.

> YOU are the one who has been railing against so called "off topic" posting

So posting about everything EXCEPt Olbermann at Olbermann Watch is NOT off topic, it's "so called" off topic? Tell me, is the ocean made out of "so called" water? Is it "so called" snow that falls in the Winter?

> First off, I hardly "rushed" out with an email...

Oh I know all that stuff. I just wanted to see how easy it was to bait you. Thanks.

Well, Mike, how is that the owner of this "hate site", who also the man who gives the deceptive and intolerant Johnny Dollar virtual carte blanch over the site, can be so acceptable to you, whereas his "voice" so to speak (JD), is not?

As with all your thoughts, this too is riddled with faulty reasoning. You have posted here for years, and have seen a degree of respect for free speech that even consistently acquiesced in the face of the worst sort of disrespect, ill intentions, and abuse from others who trolled here. Yet when the change they forced upon the site came about, you had to report that you were surprised that this same person gave you the means to post here.

Frankly, it's not Johnny Dollar you need to be criticizing but yourself. You have been extended every hospitality, but have done nothing but issue a pejorative against the site that would put OW in league with some racist or antisemitic organization, routinely imply that its main blogger is intentionally deceitful, and insultingly report that you were shocked when accorded the same consideration by the blog owner that you callously took for granted for years.

You should be grateful to Bob Cox. If I were him, I'd boot you out just for doing your little "I wouldn't have bothered if you, Johnny, owned the site rather than Bob" dance. Correction. I'd boot you out for being a clueless and self-congratulating bore.

"So not posting about Olbermann at Olbermann Watch is not off topic, it's "so called" off topic."

YOU are about the only one here who really seems to have a problem with "off topic", but clearly related posts (well, when it's done by an "olbyloon", anyway)

Cecelia just said that I "routinely imply that it's main blogger is intentionally deceitful, and insulting."

When J$ made the decision to intentionally misrepresent (see above) what I have done, and then take it upon himself to scold me for posting something he personally deems to be "off topic" in seeming direct opposition to the site's owner, he has earned every bit of scorn I have implied.

And then Cecelia followed up with THIS little gem; "correction. I'd boot you out for being a clueless and self-contratulating bore."

The problem with doing that is that he would have to boot you off as well for the very same reasons.