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Olbermann was heard saying outside the service, "this place is going to hell," because his Washington staff couldn't find ketchup packets for lunch at the Center.
Never tell another "news person", and I use those words lightly, that they are not qualified to do a job when you, yourself, get your unqualified girlfriend a job she sucks at more than that one you just belittled.
The problem with people like Olbermann is that they are so pre-occupied with themselves and their own self interest that they tend to forget that they are not there to talk about themselves.
The walls Olbermann has constructed are tumbling down....He is the spoiled effete leftist we all here knew he was...NOT the tough as nails honest journo in the mold of Murrow he pretends to be.
Berating staff, complaining about condiments, worried about being in first class....how the leftist hack shows his true colors!.....And the defensive indignation for the documentation of it all!.....What a whiner too!
I am amazed NBC NEWS feels it's valuable broadcast resources are being put to good use in the defense of the personal repuation of this shrill boob. What quality jounalism.
This one portion from the dissent today by Justice Stevens says it all for me about the left and theit total ignorance to what The US Constitution is all about and the role of the federal judiciary:
"The Court would have us believe that over 200 years ago, the Framers made a choice to limit the tools available to elected officials wishing to regulate civilian uses of weapons...."
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Unbelievable! That was the exact intent of the framers!....Limits on government!
This is why I believe we all must remember the fundamentals of our governance....Is it like Justice Stevens, SNOBamessiah and the rest of the left see it as a matter of progress that authorities garner more power through processes OTHER than the legislative and amendment process under the strict control of the enumerated powers conferred to the governing by The US Constitution OR that limits on the governing ARE BENEFICIAL to freedom!
I think Stevens violated his oath to UPHOLD THE CONSTITUION with this writing today! What a bunch of garbage!
As but one example, John Cole was a vehement supporter of Barack Obama throughout the primary. He viciously criticized Hillary Clinton on a regular basis and raised tens of thousands of dollars for Obama's campaign through his blog. But this week alone, Cole lambasted Obama for what he called Obama's "total collapse and a rapid abandonment of principle" regarding FISA and pronounced as a "pathetic performance" Obama's refusal to be photographed anywhere near Muslims or to meet with Muslim leaders. Despite that, just yesterday, Cole said:
"No, I don't have buyers remorse. Yes, he still is better than Hillary or McCain. No, I am not disillusioned (I never thought he was a flaming liberal in the first place). I am, however, disgusted, and I will caution the Obama campaign that "better than McCain" is not much of a rallying cry. We all remember how "anything is better than Bush" turned out in 2004."
"Unlike Senator Obama, who refused to join me in signing a bipartisan amicus brief, I was pleased to express my support and call for the ruling issued today. Today’s ruling in District of Columbia v. Heller makes clear that other municipalities like Chicago that have banned handguns have infringed on the constitutional rights of Americans. Unlike the elitist view that believes Americans cling to guns out of bitterness, today’s ruling recognizes that gun ownership is a fundamental right — sacred, just as the right to free speech and assembly."
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Nice, Senator McCain....What does SNOBamessiah really believe about this right to protect oneself in one's own home?....Can anyone, especially MikeH, tell me?
cee, mikeh had no idea of obams voting record in regards to the patriot act or anything about the patriot act. What makes you think he will no obamas stance on home security/guns?
OS: "cee, mikeh had no idea of obama voting record in regards to the patriot act or anything about the patriot act."
Yea, yea, yea, and obama was also "for pornagraphy in the schools", he's an "enemy defender", he is really "a secret muslim", and his mother wore army boots as well, blah, blah, blah..
Just for the record smartass, I know far more about the Patriot Act than you do, and I have been against the ENTIRE sorry unconstiutional sorry thing from the very beginning.
As for Cee, Cee has already proven beyond doubt that he doesn't know a damned thing about federal taxes or how it they are actually applied to ordinary Americans, but that hasn't stopped him from spouting off about it anyway.....for political purposes.
He (obama) wants to notify terrorists sooner (6 days) rather than 6 months as it stands when they are under investigation.
Are you denying this, mikeh? Playing dumb?
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Of COURSE I'm denying it but since Obama has never said anything like that, it is up to YOU to explain EXACTLY what you are talking about, and exactly why you believe it?....Or shut the hell up about it!
by mikeh
Just for the record smartass, I know far more about the Patriot Act than you do,
Buzz, buzz, buzz....MikeH is still hung up on his strawman of the degree of tax increase we will all see under his guru, SNOBamessiah....What an LAME excuse for not eing able to refute the dozen other points I made the other day, including poor tax policy, that show his candidate lacks integrity, experience, intelligence, candor and character.
How about his pandering regarding FISA, MikeH?.....You get soooo angry over Bush and Cheney for their fascist actions....SNOBamessiah is supporting such behavior with his vote. Is it because.....
He agrees with Bush and Cheney?
He is too scared of Bush and Cheney?
He is pandering to the vast majority of Americans despite his previous rhetoric?
Are you Olbermann in disguise, MikeH?....Chief SNOBamessiah apologist?
Oh and what about SNOBamessiah's previous statement saying he would choose justices LIKE BREYER?......Breyer said today pretty much what Stevens said above....HE SAW NO INDIVIDUAL RIGHT IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT AND SO NO INTENTION OF THE FRAMERS TO LIMIT THE GOVERNMENT'S TOOLS TO REGULATE WEAPONS USE BY THE CITIZEN?......Now this brilliant justice is supposedly on the oppositie side of the savior (although SNOBamessiah was a BIG gun control advocate in Chicago and wanted a similar gun ban!)....
OS: "Really?"................Yes, "really" but that isn't saying much.
As I stated, Obama has never made a statement like 'I want to notify terrorists sooner', and you, of course know that. That said, did you ever come back and articulate EXACTLY what it was you were talking about like I asked you to do?....NO, YOU DIDN'T!...you responded with a one line Library of Congress link that went to a blank page and called that an "argument". Even if it had not gone to a blank page, it would not have constituted an argument.
When you make such intentionally inflammatory statement such as "Obama is for pornagraphy in the public schools", or "he wants to notify terrorists sooner", you HAVE to follow that up with an articulation about WHY you believe what you just posted!,.....otherwise, you're nothing but another idiot posting unsubstantiated innuedo.
Of course, any intelligent and objective observer knows that in BOTH of those cases, Obama was showing concern for the errosion of civil liberties for EVERYONE, not "terrorists" or 'pornagraphers', as well as concern for the probability of unintended consequences for protection of EVERYONE'S civil liberties.
Now, YOU try it Mr. smart alec - try something you've never done!.....YOU try articulating a coherent pro & con argument based on actual FACTS, and NOT innuendo derived from your very imperfect interpretations of someone's vote on a given issue which ALWAYS carries MANY other provisions within that same vote.
BTW, MikeH....Do you agree with the court decision today?....Does The Constitution give citizens a right to have a gun in their home with LIMITED tools available to the government in restricting such possession?.....I think it does CLEARLY, but SNOBamessiah's fav justices don't.....They essentially think there are no limits in the tools available to the government to limit this!....You say you were once a conservative in the mold of Pat Buchanan (oh boy!)....I know his opinion on this!.....
Cee: "buzz, buzz, buzz....MikeH is still hung up on his strawman on the degree of the tax increase we will see under his guru."
What MikeH is "hung up on" is the TRUTH, and the proven FACT that you are perfectly willing to post incorrect statistical information in order to dishonestly embellish your own political stand.
I've got news for you Cee; it is FACT that the "degree" of taxation in the case YOU chose to cite is VERY important, and that is precisely WHY you dishonestly decided to post embellished numbers. Then when you were called on it, you respnded by pretending the "degree" really isn't important after all.....instead of owning up to your mistake like a man would do.
But then we're supposed to believe anything ELSE you decide to post and not question your OWN dishonesty while you repeatedly attack the integrity of this very honorable presidential candidate in every way you can possibly dream up.
Look above dear MikeH....links to the documentation, just like the tax argument the other day, that substantiate my claims that SNOBamessiah is a dishonest and arrogant POL....not the new and improved man of HOPE!....But that is not good enough for our little SNOBamessiah apologist!
Don't believe the FACTS, MikeH....SNOBamessiah had a different, radical leftist view of gun control BEFORE the Democrat primaries went into BITTER GOD BELIEVERS' and BITTER GUNOWNING XENOPHOBES' territory. Also avoid defending your guy over the type of justices he would pick that basically trhow out parts of the Bill of Rights!
Oh yes....keep avoiding all of the facts that show SNOBamessiah's lack of integrity and courage....I know it's hard to defend such a character in light of your commitment to him....but you were once a Pat Buchanan conservative until those nasty ol neocons ruined everything!
And Cee, attacking Obama because of today's Supreme Court ruling is about as strawman of an argument you can possibly use.
That said, the Supreme Court rulings please me personally about half the time these days. But what is MUCH scarier to me is that we have at least one justice (Scalia) who is perfectly comfortable justifying torture on the false premise that 'torture isn't intended as punishment, therefore it isn't unconstitutional. Then he follows that up with an emotional response to the Quantanamo ruling by his opinion of the possible ramifications....which an example of pure judicial activism, and NOT concern for the integrity of the Constitution.
But what is REALLY scary about this is that SCALIA is often touted as someone who conservatives would like to see MORE of on the bench!
Cee, I think it is very telling that you keep responding to being caught red handed on your little taxation LIE by trying to divert the discussion back into the gutter by attacking the name and integrity of a candidate who's honor and integrity dwarfs your own in every way possible.
Buzz, buzz, buzz....no response....no problem....it's what I expected. I guess we'll never know how MikeH stands on the second amendment because SNOBamessiah is just as mushy!
Scalia is a strict contructionist....if it ain't there PASS CONSTITUTIONAL LEGISLATION OR AMEND THE CONSTITUTION!....Hard work and avoiding short-cuts is a good thing when it comes to protecting the rights of the individual and Scalia is much better at it then the intellectually lazy group of four we saw trample their oaths or office today!
Let me repeat what Stevens said in his AWFUL decent:
"The Court would have us believe that over 200 years ago, the Framers made a choice to limit the tools available to elected officials wishing to regulate civilian uses of weapons...."
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Yes! That is the entire point of The Bill of Rights! What lousy judgement a supposed great mind is displaying in that one sentence!....And again, this is the type of justice your SNOBamessiah would appoint.
The US Constitution gives wide latitude to the executive in the management of those noncitizens captured in war and hostilities that threaten our nation...You want to change that? Fine, but don't make it up in a court room.....PASS LEGISLATION OR AMEND THE CONTITUTION.....Scalia is right not to confer or take away powers from the legislature or the executive The Constituion rightfully gives or restricts. The liberal judges, as shown today, think they know better than the law. It is tyrannical.
The ends do not justify the means, even if you think the ends are horrific...you give government power or take away granted power as prescribed by The Constitution and you are on a very slippery slope....
Geore Bush and The Congress are accountable to the people through election and impeachment....The justices of The Supreme Court are NOT and thus should not be directing foreign policy....that is clear in the US Constitution. Putting themselves in the middle of such issues is new and radical.....
And MikeH....I have documented twice my taxation argument....you changed the argument to fit your ideology and claimed I was lying....You were wrong. Taxes go up under SNOBamessiah to pre-Bush levels whether theexample is taken from your tax tables or the percentages quoted in the law that was passed back in 2002. You are pathetic to keep using that as an excuse for not facing all of the other things that have been pointed out these last 72 hours.
Keep avoiding the myriad of other facts that show SNOBamessiah is a dishonest politician all you want....it would be more honorable to either admit defeat or defend your candidate.
Admitting you know little to nothing of your candidates voting record is really sad. I nevr said obama came out and SAID he voted to minimize terrorist notification of investigation. Do you think he would be stupid enough to come out and say it, voluntarily? I was informing you of his voting record of which you still deny or are just in denial, period.
"Admitting you know little to nothing of your candidates voting record is really sad."
But I "admitted" NO such thing.
What I I SAID was that you said he was for something that he has never said he was for. You CANNOT claim a candidate is "for" something just because he voted for something you believe makes that particular scenario more likely. There are MULTIPLE reasons why someone votes for a bill that has many provisions and many implications.
Now, for the umteenth time, I invite you to articulate in a a coherent fashion your rather dumb argument that Obama "wants to notify terrorists sooner". HINT: Your biased interpretation of his motivations based on one aspect of his voting record is NOT proof of what Obama "wants" to do.
Got it Sucks? Or is cohernet logical thinking something that is just beyond your capacity?
Cee, once again you have tried to minimize the LIE you posted regarding taxation rates for a single person making 30,000 a year by NOW claiming that the AMOUNT of change isn't important anyway.
HINT: I don't care WHERE you got your incorrect information, it was totally WRONG, and until you admit it was WRONG, and admit your own fallacy for relying on information from a site that would post such a lying tripe, you ARE yourself guilty of either lying or at least intentionally perpetuating a lie.
Yes Cee, it absolutely DOES matter whether the ACTUAL tax difference for a 30,000 individual was only about $500 as opposed to the $2600 like you posted. It makes ALL the difference in the world towards the validity of the TRUTH that the REAL tax cuts were for the wealthy and that the middle class was just thrown a bone in order to keep them quiet.
SO once again CEE, until I can count on you to give ACCURATE information and HONEST arguments, don't try to divert me to engage you in additional arguments in which your facts cannot be trusted any more than previous misinformation could be trusted.
BTW, you can call Scalia a "constructionist" all you please, but I say he is a classic and blatant example of what your side loves to refer to as an "activist judge."
Cee: "The ends do not justify the means, even if you think the ends are horrific."
Funny thing Cee, you didn't seem to think that was true when the Swift Boat FRAUDS were smearing John Kerry when you justified their repugnant actions because it prevented Kerry from becoming President.
OS: "Read the patriot act, then get back to me. I won't be waiting, hypocrite."
I HAVE read the Patriot Act dumbass! Several years ago. That's exactly why I am against it.
YOU on the other hand, continue to do NOTHING but offer one liners and taunts, and then act as if you know something.
C'mon smart guy. Put your own thoughts out there in nerrative form like I do. Open yourself up for some counterpoint from the opposition, you coward. I KNOW why you won't do it....because it will expose you as the clueless know-nothing that we already know you are anyway.
Hey Keith why don't your change your WPITW to the SPITW and nominate yorself everday, because after that tirade about Justice Scalia, well you have to be the stupidest person on earth in the word to think he is stupid!
Is there any thing he is not clueless about? I bet if GWB were to come out and say we are leaving Iraq, fat ass would have a special comment about how we should stay in Iraq not and how Bush is wrong about us wanting to pull out.
KO is a modern day "sophist" meaning one that is skilled in elaborate and devious argumentation.....just digusting
"I bet if GWB were to come out and say we are leaving Iraq, fat ass would have special comment about how we should stay in Iraq and how Bush is wrong about us wanting to pull out."
You know, if right wingers were to lose their patently false 'it's all about irrational hatred for Bush' argument, they would have no arrows left in their quiver at all.
OS: "I believe there was a large sum of money offered up to anyone who could debunk the "Smears." Crickets....."
Well, now you're showing your pathetic ignorance once again. It's in the news right now (unless, of course, you think Fox is "news"). A group just came forward to collect from OILMAN T. Bone Pickens but he renigged on the deal because, according to him, the errors were in the book, and not in the ads.
And, oh yeah OS, the most recents claimants were some of Kerry's own CREWMATES!......YOU know, the ONLY ones who were ever in position to make judgements about Kerry's Vietnam service!
Newsflash! What part of "Fox News" can you not read?
I'll need more info besides your word on Pickens "renigging." I'm guessing some far left source? Olbermahn? Malloy?
For limousine liberals like Keith
The common folk fall far beneath
He'll blow off Tim's mass
If he can't ride first class
Integrity Tim can't bequeath
The walls Olbermann has constructed are tumbling down....He is the spoiled effete leftist we all here knew he was...NOT the tough as nails honest journo in the mold of Murrow he pretends to be.
Berating staff, complaining about condiments, worried about being in first class....how the leftist hack shows his true colors!.....And the defensive indignation for the documentation of it all!.....What a whiner too!
I am amazed NBC NEWS feels it's valuable broadcast resources are being put to good use in the defense of the personal repuation of this shrill boob. What quality jounalism.
In the ratings Keith's getting hammered
The viewers must not be enamored
Behavior snarky
Countdown to malarchy
"Fox Noise" the idiot clamored
^^
LOL.. That is great, Katy!
This one portion from the dissent today by Justice Stevens says it all for me about the left and theit total ignorance to what The US Constitution is all about and the role of the federal judiciary:
"The Court would have us believe that over 200 years ago, the Framers made a choice to limit the tools available to elected officials wishing to regulate civilian uses of weapons...."
###
Unbelievable! That was the exact intent of the framers!....Limits on government!
This is why I believe we all must remember the fundamentals of our governance....Is it like Justice Stevens, SNOBamessiah and the rest of the left see it as a matter of progress that authorities garner more power through processes OTHER than the legislative and amendment process under the strict control of the enumerated powers conferred to the governing by The US Constitution OR that limits on the governing ARE BENEFICIAL to freedom!
I think Stevens violated his oath to UPHOLD THE CONSTITUION with this writing today! What a bunch of garbage!
As but one example, John Cole was a vehement supporter of Barack Obama throughout the primary. He viciously criticized Hillary Clinton on a regular basis and raised tens of thousands of dollars for Obama's campaign through his blog. But this week alone, Cole lambasted Obama for what he called Obama's "total collapse and a rapid abandonment of principle" regarding FISA and pronounced as a "pathetic performance" Obama's refusal to be photographed anywhere near Muslims or to meet with Muslim leaders. Despite that, just yesterday, Cole said:
"No, I don't have buyers remorse. Yes, he still is better than Hillary or McCain. No, I am not disillusioned (I never thought he was a flaming liberal in the first place). I am, however, disgusted, and I will caution the Obama campaign that "better than McCain" is not much of a rallying cry. We all remember how "anything is better than Bush" turned out in 2004."
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/06/26/olbermann/
Patiently awaiting for another obamapology from our resident olbyloon.
"Unlike Senator Obama, who refused to join me in signing a bipartisan amicus brief, I was pleased to express my support and call for the ruling issued today. Today’s ruling in District of Columbia v. Heller makes clear that other municipalities like Chicago that have banned handguns have infringed on the constitutional rights of Americans. Unlike the elitist view that believes Americans cling to guns out of bitterness, today’s ruling recognizes that gun ownership is a fundamental right — sacred, just as the right to free speech and assembly."
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Nice, Senator McCain....What does SNOBamessiah really believe about this right to protect oneself in one's own home?....Can anyone, especially MikeH, tell me?
Here's a tiny url of Johnny Dollar's Place link to the shocking Salon piece on Olbermann's "about face", Olby Sucks.
http://tinyurl.com/5r2sl9
cee, mikeh had no idea of obams voting record in regards to the patriot act or anything about the patriot act. What makes you think he will no obamas stance on home security/guns?
OS: "cee, mikeh had no idea of obama voting record in regards to the patriot act or anything about the patriot act."
Yea, yea, yea, and obama was also "for pornagraphy in the schools", he's an "enemy defender", he is really "a secret muslim", and his mother wore army boots as well, blah, blah, blah..
Just for the record smartass, I know far more about the Patriot Act than you do, and I have been against the ENTIRE sorry unconstiutional sorry thing from the very beginning.
As for Cee, Cee has already proven beyond doubt that he doesn't know a damned thing about federal taxes or how it they are actually applied to ordinary Americans, but that hasn't stopped him from spouting off about it anyway.....for political purposes.
He (obama) wants to notify terrorists sooner (6 days) rather than 6 months as it stands when they are under investigation.
Are you denying this, mikeh? Playing dumb?
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Of COURSE I'm denying it but since Obama has never said anything like that, it is up to YOU to explain EXACTLY what you are talking about, and exactly why you believe it?....Or shut the hell up about it!
by mikeh
Just for the record smartass, I know far more about the Patriot Act than you do,
by mikeh
Really?
Buzz, buzz, buzz....MikeH is still hung up on his strawman of the degree of tax increase we will all see under his guru, SNOBamessiah....What an LAME excuse for not eing able to refute the dozen other points I made the other day, including poor tax policy, that show his candidate lacks integrity, experience, intelligence, candor and character.
How about his pandering regarding FISA, MikeH?.....You get soooo angry over Bush and Cheney for their fascist actions....SNOBamessiah is supporting such behavior with his vote. Is it because.....
He agrees with Bush and Cheney?
He is too scared of Bush and Cheney?
He is pandering to the vast majority of Americans despite his previous rhetoric?
Are you Olbermann in disguise, MikeH?....Chief SNOBamessiah apologist?
Oh and what about SNOBamessiah's previous statement saying he would choose justices LIKE BREYER?......Breyer said today pretty much what Stevens said above....HE SAW NO INDIVIDUAL RIGHT IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT AND SO NO INTENTION OF THE FRAMERS TO LIMIT THE GOVERNMENT'S TOOLS TO REGULATE WEAPONS USE BY THE CITIZEN?......Now this brilliant justice is supposedly on the oppositie side of the savior (although SNOBamessiah was a BIG gun control advocate in Chicago and wanted a similar gun ban!)....
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9722.html
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What a joke this candidate is!
OS: "Really?"................Yes, "really" but that isn't saying much.
As I stated, Obama has never made a statement like 'I want to notify terrorists sooner', and you, of course know that. That said, did you ever come back and articulate EXACTLY what it was you were talking about like I asked you to do?....NO, YOU DIDN'T!...you responded with a one line Library of Congress link that went to a blank page and called that an "argument". Even if it had not gone to a blank page, it would not have constituted an argument.
When you make such intentionally inflammatory statement such as "Obama is for pornagraphy in the public schools", or "he wants to notify terrorists sooner", you HAVE to follow that up with an articulation about WHY you believe what you just posted!,.....otherwise, you're nothing but another idiot posting unsubstantiated innuedo.
Of course, any intelligent and objective observer knows that in BOTH of those cases, Obama was showing concern for the errosion of civil liberties for EVERYONE, not "terrorists" or 'pornagraphers', as well as concern for the probability of unintended consequences for protection of EVERYONE'S civil liberties.
Now, YOU try it Mr. smart alec - try something you've never done!.....YOU try articulating a coherent pro & con argument based on actual FACTS, and NOT innuendo derived from your very imperfect interpretations of someone's vote on a given issue which ALWAYS carries MANY other provisions within that same vote.
Otherwise, just shut the hell up!
BTW, MikeH....Do you agree with the court decision today?....Does The Constitution give citizens a right to have a gun in their home with LIMITED tools available to the government in restricting such possession?.....I think it does CLEARLY, but SNOBamessiah's fav justices don't.....They essentially think there are no limits in the tools available to the government to limit this!....You say you were once a conservative in the mold of Pat Buchanan (oh boy!)....I know his opinion on this!.....
Are you a faker like SNOBamessiah?
VERO POSSUMUS!
Hey MikeH!....Your guy is now stealing rhetoric from Republican candidates!......
SNOBamessiah: "I know that what works in Chicago may not work in Cheyenne."
RUDY: "what works in New York doesn't necessarily work in Mississippi or Montana."
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0608/Obama_channeling_Rudy_on_guns.html
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Walking that tightrope!....And stealing from the smart Giuliani in the process....WHAT A LEADER!
And again, if SNOBamessiah would to select a Justice Breyer to be on the Supreme Court....what would have happened today?......
Do you agree with the basic erasure of The Second Amendment, MikeH?.....
Justice Breyer does.....SNOBamessiah SAYS he doesn't (now).....What do you say?
Cee: "buzz, buzz, buzz....MikeH is still hung up on his strawman on the degree of the tax increase we will see under his guru."
What MikeH is "hung up on" is the TRUTH, and the proven FACT that you are perfectly willing to post incorrect statistical information in order to dishonestly embellish your own political stand.
I've got news for you Cee; it is FACT that the "degree" of taxation in the case YOU chose to cite is VERY important, and that is precisely WHY you dishonestly decided to post embellished numbers. Then when you were called on it, you respnded by pretending the "degree" really isn't important after all.....instead of owning up to your mistake like a man would do.
But then we're supposed to believe anything ELSE you decide to post and not question your OWN dishonesty while you repeatedly attack the integrity of this very honorable presidential candidate in every way you can possibly dream up.
Look above dear MikeH....links to the documentation, just like the tax argument the other day, that substantiate my claims that SNOBamessiah is a dishonest and arrogant POL....not the new and improved man of HOPE!....But that is not good enough for our little SNOBamessiah apologist!
Don't believe the FACTS, MikeH....SNOBamessiah had a different, radical leftist view of gun control BEFORE the Democrat primaries went into BITTER GOD BELIEVERS' and BITTER GUNOWNING XENOPHOBES' territory. Also avoid defending your guy over the type of justices he would pick that basically trhow out parts of the Bill of Rights!
Oh yes....keep avoiding all of the facts that show SNOBamessiah's lack of integrity and courage....I know it's hard to defend such a character in light of your commitment to him....but you were once a Pat Buchanan conservative until those nasty ol neocons ruined everything!
VERO POSSUMUS!
And Cee, attacking Obama because of today's Supreme Court ruling is about as strawman of an argument you can possibly use.
That said, the Supreme Court rulings please me personally about half the time these days. But what is MUCH scarier to me is that we have at least one justice (Scalia) who is perfectly comfortable justifying torture on the false premise that 'torture isn't intended as punishment, therefore it isn't unconstitutional. Then he follows that up with an emotional response to the Quantanamo ruling by his opinion of the possible ramifications....which an example of pure judicial activism, and NOT concern for the integrity of the Constitution.
But what is REALLY scary about this is that SCALIA is often touted as someone who conservatives would like to see MORE of on the bench!
Vote Obama!
Cee, I think it is very telling that you keep responding to being caught red handed on your little taxation LIE by trying to divert the discussion back into the gutter by attacking the name and integrity of a candidate who's honor and integrity dwarfs your own in every way possible.
Buzz, buzz, buzz....no response....no problem....it's what I expected. I guess we'll never know how MikeH stands on the second amendment because SNOBamessiah is just as mushy!
Scalia is a strict contructionist....if it ain't there PASS CONSTITUTIONAL LEGISLATION OR AMEND THE CONSTITUTION!....Hard work and avoiding short-cuts is a good thing when it comes to protecting the rights of the individual and Scalia is much better at it then the intellectually lazy group of four we saw trample their oaths or office today!
Let me repeat what Stevens said in his AWFUL decent:
"The Court would have us believe that over 200 years ago, the Framers made a choice to limit the tools available to elected officials wishing to regulate civilian uses of weapons...."
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Yes! That is the entire point of The Bill of Rights! What lousy judgement a supposed great mind is displaying in that one sentence!....And again, this is the type of justice your SNOBamessiah would appoint.
The US Constitution gives wide latitude to the executive in the management of those noncitizens captured in war and hostilities that threaten our nation...You want to change that? Fine, but don't make it up in a court room.....PASS LEGISLATION OR AMEND THE CONTITUTION.....Scalia is right not to confer or take away powers from the legislature or the executive The Constituion rightfully gives or restricts. The liberal judges, as shown today, think they know better than the law. It is tyrannical.
The ends do not justify the means, even if you think the ends are horrific...you give government power or take away granted power as prescribed by The Constitution and you are on a very slippery slope....
Geore Bush and The Congress are accountable to the people through election and impeachment....The justices of The Supreme Court are NOT and thus should not be directing foreign policy....that is clear in the US Constitution. Putting themselves in the middle of such issues is new and radical.....
That is the TRUE definition of judical activism.
And MikeH....I have documented twice my taxation argument....you changed the argument to fit your ideology and claimed I was lying....You were wrong. Taxes go up under SNOBamessiah to pre-Bush levels whether theexample is taken from your tax tables or the percentages quoted in the law that was passed back in 2002. You are pathetic to keep using that as an excuse for not facing all of the other things that have been pointed out these last 72 hours.
Keep avoiding the myriad of other facts that show SNOBamessiah is a dishonest politician all you want....it would be more honorable to either admit defeat or defend your candidate.
VERO POSSUMUS!
Just for the record smartass, [I know far more about the Patriot Act than you do,]
by mikeh
Really?
by me
Yes, "really" but that isn't saying much.
by mikeh
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Admitting you know little to nothing of your candidates voting record is really sad. I nevr said obama came out and SAID he voted to minimize terrorist notification of investigation. Do you think he would be stupid enough to come out and say it, voluntarily? I was informing you of his voting record of which you still deny or are just in denial, period.
Glenn beck is getting WPITW tonight: Blue Blog source Think Propoganda: http://tinyurl.com/49uz4r
"Admitting you know little to nothing of your candidates voting record is really sad."
But I "admitted" NO such thing.
What I I SAID was that you said he was for something that he has never said he was for. You CANNOT claim a candidate is "for" something just because he voted for something you believe makes that particular scenario more likely. There are MULTIPLE reasons why someone votes for a bill that has many provisions and many implications.
Now, for the umteenth time, I invite you to articulate in a a coherent fashion your rather dumb argument that Obama "wants to notify terrorists sooner". HINT: Your biased interpretation of his motivations based on one aspect of his voting record is NOT proof of what Obama "wants" to do.
Got it Sucks? Or is cohernet logical thinking something that is just beyond your capacity?
Cee is STILL doing it!
Cee, once again you have tried to minimize the LIE you posted regarding taxation rates for a single person making 30,000 a year by NOW claiming that the AMOUNT of change isn't important anyway.
HINT: I don't care WHERE you got your incorrect information, it was totally WRONG, and until you admit it was WRONG, and admit your own fallacy for relying on information from a site that would post such a lying tripe, you ARE yourself guilty of either lying or at least intentionally perpetuating a lie.
Yes Cee, it absolutely DOES matter whether the ACTUAL tax difference for a 30,000 individual was only about $500 as opposed to the $2600 like you posted. It makes ALL the difference in the world towards the validity of the TRUTH that the REAL tax cuts were for the wealthy and that the middle class was just thrown a bone in order to keep them quiet.
SO once again CEE, until I can count on you to give ACCURATE information and HONEST arguments, don't try to divert me to engage you in additional arguments in which your facts cannot be trusted any more than previous misinformation could be trusted.
BTW, you can call Scalia a "constructionist" all you please, but I say he is a classic and blatant example of what your side loves to refer to as an "activist judge."
Cee: "The ends do not justify the means, even if you think the ends are horrific."
Funny thing Cee, you didn't seem to think that was true when the Swift Boat FRAUDS were smearing John Kerry when you justified their repugnant actions because it prevented Kerry from becoming President.
HYPOCRITE!
Cee: "Scalia was right not to confer or take away power from the legislature or the executive."
But that ISN"T what happened. The court RIGHTFULLY found that the executive was overstepping by executing powers it didn't have in the first place.
Swift Boat FRAUDS were smearing John Kerry
by mikeh
Using facts don't equal smearing.
"wants to notify terrorists sooner"
Read the Patriot Act, then get back to me. I won't be waiting, hypocrite.
OS: "Read the patriot act, then get back to me. I won't be waiting, hypocrite."
I HAVE read the Patriot Act dumbass! Several years ago. That's exactly why I am against it.
YOU on the other hand, continue to do NOTHING but offer one liners and taunts, and then act as if you know something.
C'mon smart guy. Put your own thoughts out there in nerrative form like I do. Open yourself up for some counterpoint from the opposition, you coward. I KNOW why you won't do it....because it will expose you as the clueless know-nothing that we already know you are anyway.
Hey Keith why don't your change your WPITW to the SPITW and nominate yorself everday, because after that tirade about Justice Scalia, well you have to be the stupidest person on earth in the word to think he is stupid!
Clueless OS on Swift Boat: "Using facts don't equal smearing."
Sure clueless one, "Facts" that were offered up by political hack frauds who didn't even serve with the man.
There is a REASON why "swiftboating" has become a truism for smearing someone with no justification.
Is there any thing he is not clueless about? I bet if GWB were to come out and say we are leaving Iraq, fat ass would have a special comment about how we should stay in Iraq not and how Bush is wrong about us wanting to pull out.
KO is a modern day "sophist" meaning one that is skilled in elaborate and devious argumentation.....just digusting
"I bet if GWB were to come out and say we are leaving Iraq, fat ass would have special comment about how we should stay in Iraq and how Bush is wrong about us wanting to pull out."
You know, if right wingers were to lose their patently false 'it's all about irrational hatred for Bush' argument, they would have no arrows left in their quiver at all.
Sure clueless one, "Facts" that were offered up by political hack frauds who didn't even serve with the man.
by mikeh
I believe there was a large sum of money offered up to anyone who could debunk the "smears." Crickets.......
C'mon smart guy. Put your own thoughts out there in nerrative form like I do.
by mikeh
My thoughts don't matter. obamas voting record does. Educate yourself.
OS: "My thoughts don't matter,".......Exactly!
OS: "obamas voting record does."......Maybe, but your sick distortions about it don't."
OS: "I believe there was a large sum of money offered up to anyone who could debunk the "Smears." Crickets....."
Well, now you're showing your pathetic ignorance once again. It's in the news right now (unless, of course, you think Fox is "news"). A group just came forward to collect from OILMAN T. Bone Pickens but he renigged on the deal because, according to him, the errors were in the book, and not in the ads.
And, oh yeah OS, the most recents claimants were some of Kerry's own CREWMATES!......YOU know, the ONLY ones who were ever in position to make judgements about Kerry's Vietnam service!
(unless, of course, you think Fox is "news").
by mikeh
Newsflash! What part of "Fox News" can you not read?
I'll need more info besides your word on Pickens "renigging." I'm guessing some far left source? Olbermahn? Malloy?