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The "American Chronical" article is the best I'v seen written acurately describing "the DEPLORABLE ONE". No name calling, no ranting or raving (like I usually find myself doing when I write in to comment here). This guy just states the facts as they are, and systematically dismantles the "Orange Disgrace". I sure hope it finds its way across Olbydouches desk.
EddieB you nailed it as did the writer in his article about the infamous one. States the facts exactly as I have been saying since the first time I ever saw him. All his terms are in there that I have been stating almost to a tee, although he captured a few more that I have failed to mention also with his description of this anti-American's hate filled anger towards anything resembling America.
Yes, all the terms I have used to describe this bitch (treasonous, "lucky to live in America," etc.) were gloriously exemplified by the writer, and without any name calling either. Civilized and to the point, and yet I'm sure there are people out there that would call the writer a "neocon ultra-conservative right winger" simply because the writer stated the facts about a "man" who simply hates anything that's American.
As I have said a million times, he is damn lucky he lives in America ("luck" may have nothing to do with it though, as olbermann may understand that in living here he knows he can't be checked on his anti-American biased opinions) because in any other country if he lied so vehemently and displayed such hatred towards his native country he would be in danger of being arrested or "flogged" as the writer said.
Well maybe in time the powers that be will do something to stop this man and his incessant lies and rantings about how bad America is, because the danger of his lies are right up there with Mata Hari and Toyko Rose. I mean he ACTUALLY has people that believe his shit...
wOLVERINE: "I mean he ACTUALLY has people that believe his shit...."
Yes, there are people who "ACTUALLY believe his shit", and I'm one of them....and we believed it long before he ever appeared ON THE SCENE.....And while you rant on and on WHILE hurling expletives about how this man "hates America", is a "traitor", etc., etc., you always fail to give concrete examples of him telling anything other than the truth regarding REAL substansive issues......And no, I'm not talking about things he might have said about Bill O'reilly or other personalities.
In the last couple of days, I have given an example MANY times about how Keith Olbermann was attacked by this Website and other media personalities for giving an undesputable FACT regarding the timing of Sunni Awakening in regards to The Surge....and yet NO ONE on this site wants to discuss it. It's as if the REAL complaint here is that he told a truth that calls into question the Neoconservatism argument....and therefore, hs shouldn't have done it.
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""Well maybe in time the powers that be will do something to stop this man...."
Wolverine, You are one who NEVER ceases to amaze me. I really DO question whether you REALLY what America is about, and the lofty principles on which it was built. Some of your attitudes and beliefs COULD have come right out of some of the most totalitarian and nationalistic societies that have ever existed....and yet you persist in labeling the beliefs of OTHERS as "un-American" as if you somehow believe you have an exclusive on how patiotism should be defined.
In THIS instance, you are actually advocating the forced silencing of another American in the land of the 1rst Amendment.
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"..his incessant lies and ranting about how bad America is."
Keith Olbermann has NEVER said anything close to calling America "bad"!.......YOU are dreaming this crap up simply because you don't like the ideas of another American speaking out who in reality is every damned bit as patriotic as you are. People like you REALLY seem to believe that the current powers to be are and should be the status quo, but that is NOT how America works, and it is NOT how it is supposed to work either.
Dissention BUILT America....and disention has kept it on the straight and narrow for nearly 250 years. There is NOTHING more patriotic than honest dissention.
I personally believe in the Constitution, but I'm not really sure WHAT you believe in?
I fear you could have been one of those people who would have cheered Senator McCarthy during the depicable and regretable McCarthy era, even though McCarthy was one of the biggest American "traitors" who ever lived because he literally betrayed the Constitution.....which is the highest form of treason in my opinion.
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"this so anti-American's hate filled anger towards anything resembing America."
THIS is apparently the kind of thing you call "facts"; the labeling as "America haters".....that would be any American who doesn't believe as you do, and who is simply using their Constitutional rights to advocate for change of the things that he/she honestly believes needs to be changed.
Listen Wolverine ,.... trying to right the things you honestly believe NEEDS righting in America does NOT make someone an "America hater', any more than wanting to put a fresh coat of paint on your house would make you a 'home hater'.
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"because the danger of his lies are right up there with Mata Hari and Tokyo Rose."
And I literally want to throw up every time I read this absurd statement, which is SO cartoonish and SO over-the-top that it is difficult to believe that any clear thinking American would say, or even THINK something THIS ridiculous.
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Wolverine, all I can say is that I wish more (not less) Americans have the chance to be exposed to your own writings, because I believe most would literally recoil in horror at your fanaticism and close mindedness.......and contrary to all your assertions to the contrary, they would in reality recognize the "danger" of an America run by someone who thinks as you do.....as possibly being the ultimate threat.
I've told you this before, but it seems to go in one ear and out the other.....EVERY time you call Keith Olbermann a traitor, you are also calling me and many others who love our country EVERY bit as much as you do "traitors" as well.
The truth is that what you are mistaking for 'patriotism' is really nationalism in its' most dangerous form.
Wolverine, all I can say is that I wish more (not less) Americans have the chance to be exposed to your own writings, because I believe most would literally recoil in horror at your fanaticism and close mindedness.......and contrary to all your assertions to the contrary, they would in reality recognize the "danger" of an America run by someone who thinks as you do.....as possibly being the ultimate threat....A Mike H "hilarity"
Well let's see where I stand on certain issues and to what I'm about, and then we'll find out where I would stand in regards to the "danger" of an America run by me:
1) I hate, absolutely HATE guns, and believe that no American should be allowed to own one. (Very liberal of me, but unlike most American's I live in a real world where I saw people get shot AND killed by them not to mention being shot at myself). Oh! The horror of living in a real world.
2) I believe that abortion is the most immoral and corrupt law this nation has ever passed. The killing of the innocents for the sake of an "unsure" mother while there are mother's and father's who would give their life to adopt a baby is truly a crime. (Another "right-wing" conservative thought by me that I KNOW would put this country back in the middle ages if abortion was deemed illegal). Oh! The horror of looking out for newborns!
3) I believe in same-sex marriages. What's the big deal if two people of the same sex who are in love (no matter how perverse their way of thinking is to me) want to reap the rewards of marriage? Who gives a flying f..k what sex they are? I feel it is no different than two people of the opposite sex getting married. No harm no foul either way to me. I'm sure this way of thinking would have all of America up in arms, and for the ones who think that homosexuality is an "acquired taste" I have to respectfully disagree, as I believe 100% that they are born this way. Big deal, and live with it I say.
4) I believe that everybody is created equal, and that there should be no "special circumstances" to help those of different colors or races. I got my first real taste of this reverse prejudice when I took the NY Bridge and Tunnel test whereas I scored a 100 on the test, and some blacks complained that the test was unfair and that it must be rewritten. They won the ruling in which a new test was re-administered
whereas I was then not hired when I took it the second time because almost everybody scored a 100 on it then. The first test, which they said was unfair had questions like "if the toll was $4.00 and you were given $10.00 how much change would you give back?" Unbelievable but true, and for me any "special circumstances" to help those who aren't up for the test should never be allowed.
5) I believe that all the illegals now in the country should have the right for their citizenship, but that the govenrment should map out a plan to make sure that there is a way for them to achieve it, and that they are given no less or no more rights than the previous generations who came over before them. Like what my father had to do when he came over. I also believe that a wall should be built to curtail the millions that are coming over here yearly, as too much of a "good thing" can only bring down the economy and our nation. We have to stop it now, and for the ones who are here now I believe that they MUST learn to speak English also like my father had to learn. In other words, no special priviliges because they can't speak the language.
6)I believe that all illegal drug users and sellers should be held accountable for their actions, so I agree with the current laws, but that also there must be drug centers set up for the mandatory rehabilitation for all the users where they are monitored throughout their rehab. I have seen this work for a few people who lived in my street, and have seen it fail too. Either way, drugs have only brought our country to its heels, and the enforcement of the illegal use of drugs must be administered.
7)Last but not least, I believe that everybody should have a voice in regards to what our government does or does not do, but that this voice must be done in an honest fashion with some proof about what they preach. If they are consistently lying about what they preach and say, then they should be held accountable especially if they have a format like the media to spread their lies. Their influence towards millions of people could help or hurt the democracy in which we live, and when it comes to olbermann I see only lies and treasonous things being spread around daily, and DO believe that he should be held accountable.
As for my personal life I was called the "White Negro" whereas I dated all different types of girls and hung with all races where two out of my five longtime friends are black. I married an Hispanic, and while being a manager hired more minorities than any other manager in my company because I saw them as being no different than the whites when they came in looking for a job. I received awards for this too (which I hated, because to me it was condoning the fact that the races were different which I thought was laughable) and have never waivered from this feeling throughout my life.
So there you go Mike H, and if this short synopsis of my life makes me this generations neo-con supreme master of the conservative right, then so be it, but I know I'm not alone with this way of thinking, while I also know that the writer who wrote about him in this article is very alike to the millions of people in this country who truly don't have any "agenda's" outside of seeing America being represented truthfully. Unfortunately, when it comes to this generations Tokyo Rose, olbermann says mostly nothing that is truthful...
Wolverine, stating your positions on specific issues, some of which I agree, and some of which I disagree, and all of which I respect, does nothing to clarify why you feel so comfortable questioning the patriotism of those that simply disagree with you?
As for your continuing assertion that "Olbermann says mostly nothing that is truthful...", I say pvove it!.....Why don't you start with that truthful statement he made regarding the Sunni Awakening in which he was subsequently attacked for saying by Scarborough, Gibson, AND this website?
That said, your claims that you can judge the content of Countdown by reading this website is as utterly ridiculous as if I were to say I could judge the content of The O'Reilly Factor by watching Countdown!
I have over and over questioned the patriotism of olberman not unlike the writer of this article, and one would have to be blind to not do the same.
Have you read the article Mike H, or are you so close minded when it comes to your hero that you can't bear to witness any strokes against him?
Read the article, and then I'll be waiting for your reply that this writer is also a neocon right wing fanatic. There's nothing in the article to suggest that the writer is a crazy right winger, and therefore one would have to surmise that maybe this writer was just stating the obvious which you, in your obsessive love for olbermann, cannot or will not do.
There are all the words I have used in the past, and about everyone I speak to also: "treasonous," "angry" "bitter" etc.
He's a bitter man obsessed with bringing down America, and no matter how many times you see and hear him rip America apart you WON'T and CANNOT see it.
Like the writer says, something happened to this fool in his past that has made him hate all things good in America, and all that's left to do is find out what it was.
I, on the other hand, don't give a crying f..k what made this guy hate America, as all I have to make sure of is that he doesn't go unchecked every time he spews his hate.
The lesser leftist remaining to defend the lies stated:
"In the last couple of days, I have given an example MANY times about how Keith Olbermann was attacked by this Website and other media personalities for giving an undesputable FACT regarding the timing of Sunni Awakening in regards to The Surge....and yet NO ONE on this site wants to discuss it."
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AW, poor boy wants attention. He does not realize that no one discussed it with the twit because a reasonable position is that it is a silly issue that makes no difference in the over-all argument regarding the historical facts around the anti-insurgency policies opposed by the anti-American left throughout 2006 and 2007, as well as opposed by the neophyte Senator Obama.
This is how unintelligent people like Oblermann and MikeH debate. Pound the opponent on YOUR INTERPRETATION of what they said and essentially claim victory. (I have personal experience dealing with such stupidity)
And since the radical left's attack, McCain made it very clear what he was discussing:
"[McCain] told reporters during an unscheduled stop in a super market that, what the Bush administration calls 'the surge' was actually 'made up of a number of components,' some of which began before the president's order for more troops.
"It's all a matter of semantics, he suggested.
"McCain said Army Col. Sean MacFarland started carrying out elements of a new counterinsurgency strategy as early as December 2006.
"At issue are McCain's comments in a Tuesday interview with CBS. The Arizona senator disputed Democrat Barack Obama's contention that a Sunni revolt against al-Qaida combined with the dispatch of thousands more U.S. combat troops to Iraq to produce the improved security situation there. McCain called that a 'false depiction.'"
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The fact remains that both the "Awakenening" and the "Surge" were both reliant on eachother and the counter-insurgency strategy, which included an increase in troops, was opposed by Keith Olbermann, Senator Obama, the rest of the radical anti-American left including the twit poster asking for attention.
The specific sheik McCain was talking about required the increased security so the the Iraqi Sunni movement away from Al Queda could be substantial.
Anbari tribal leaders did begin to turn against Al Queda in their areas in 2006 before the additional troops arrived, but not before Colonel Sean MacFarland began to apply in Ramadi the anti-insurgency tactics and techniques that were being used in Baghdad. If McCain was saying that Col. McFarland's counterinsurgency approach began the Anbar Awakening then that's pretty much on the mark. The "surge" after all is often shorthand for both the addition of U.S. troops as well as the adoption of a counterinsurgency strategy.
This is a perfectly reasonable understanding of what McCain meant by "the surge" and since he was for such tactics consistently through the said period of history, and his opponent predicted such stradegy would increase the violence and fail, there is reason to believe he knows what he is talking about.
It also all falls apart logically that someone try to use the successful policy they were against at the time and predicted failure to make a argument against someone who supported the correct policy. Simply, this is all a distraction being employed by Senator Obama to try to hide the fact that he had predicted General Petraeus and the troops would make things worse in 2007 when they actually accomplished success 180 degrees from that!
But what does some silly, superficial, lying anti-american commentator safe in NY want to harp on?....HIS OWN INTERPRETATION OF WHAT SENATOR MCCAIN WAS TRYING TO SAY....Even after McCain clarified his comments, some here at OW still want to try to say Olbermann was correct in reading McCain's mind.
SNOBamessiah followers are becoming increasingly shrill as this campaign continues on.
"Read the article, and then I'll be waiting for your reply that this writer is also a neocon right wing fanatic."
You REALLY don't get it, do you Wolverine? You REALLY think a personal opinion article by someone who is no smarter than I am is going to supplant 56 years of experience and service to my country? You REALLY seem to believe that if I can't call someone a Neocon, then all my beliefs are going to be somehow disarmed?
You REALLY seem to believe that anyone who calls attention to or tries to improve what they believe to be problems and mistakes in American policy somehow "hates" America......No matter HOW many times the utter lunacy of this belief is pointed out to you?
You REALLY seem incapable of grasping that Countdown viewers are far smarter and more savy than you think they are. You seem to think that if you just call this man a traitor ONE more time...maybe, just maybe, you will convince us all how wrong we have been all along?
On the contrary, the more you rant that someone who only wants to improve the same things I want to improve is 'ripping America', the more you drive rational people away from your point of view.......The more that you claim that someone who sees the world the way I do 'hates America', the more you only succeed in convincing me that I am right, and people such as yourself are so irrational as to be completely beyond reason.....And the more you call my own Constitutional based beliefs 'traitorous' through a third person, the more I see you as a hopeless fanatic with a closed mind.
The irony of your making a statement like I am "so closed minded when it comes to your hero that you can't bear to witness any strokes against him"......when you are well aware that I am on this anti-Olbermann website as often as I am.....is too mind boggling to believe that a seemingly otherwise rational person might have made such a statement.
Maybe you will NEVER get it, maybe you will......It ISN"T ABOUT KEITH OLBERMANN AT ALL! It is about bringing America back around to a Constitutional mindset that we have strayed dangerously away from in recent years. He just recognizes what is happening.
To cee I say Amen. Your articulation in specifically stating what I have been saying for months now in regards to this Mata Hari is greatly appreciated. The key word I was missing in all my rebuttal's to Mike H is INTERPRETATION. A word in which one can use to try to win every debate without proof or logic.
As usual, you throw out this word and stick to the facts instead of spinning things like most of the left does, and the "gray area" that the lefts like to use as proof simply becomes either black or white.
Another fact used by a normal American that refutes everything the anti-establishment leftists have to offer, but one I'm sure will do nothing to shake their high opinion of the anti-American hate filled one known as Mata Hari...
Cee: "I have personal experience dealing with such stupidity."
I know you do Cee. Every time you look in your mirror, stupidity stairs right back at you.
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Cee: "The "surge", after all, is often the shorthand for both the additional US troops as well as the adoption of a counterinsurgency strategy."
A pretty stupid assessment of US policy considering that the insurgency had been going strongly for almost THREE years prior to this "Adoption" of a counterinsurgency strategy".....and the "surge" that came much LATER was always billed as a stretegy to quell sectarian violence in Baghdad.
That said, just like the Tax LIE you posted several weeks ago, if you lose the essential point of an argument, you try to divert the discussion on to a separate argument while claiming it is the same argument.
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Cee: "SNOBmessiah followers are becoming increasingly shrill as this campaign continues on"
Are we becoming more "Shrill" as his poll numbers increases and solidify?
And as I have been arguing since coming to this site, IF George Bush had acted in an unconstitutional manner, in violation of his oath of office, the assessments spoken by the radical Keith Olbermann would have obtained a more factual level of characterization with either impeachment/removal from office/criminal charges OR resignation/criminal charges. Neither has occurred showing us all that Olbermann is one of but a thousand radical voices in our land......wonderfully allowed to say whatever they want about their political opponents, but still as anti-American, wrong-headed and hateful as those voices in the past like Hari......Thankfully still a minority and marginalized but unhinged, ill-informed, and deceptive none-the-less.
But Cee, your "impeachment" argument sounds just as "shril" and stupid as it ever did. I amazed that you can't come up with something more coherent.
Your argument was and essentially remains that if the president's actions warranted impeachment, then he would have indeed been impeached, which is illogical to the extreme, especially when you factor in this hopelessly partisand and gutless Congress we've had to live with.
Cee: "Neither has occurred showing us all that Olbermann is one of but a thousand radical voices in our land"
Yes, like Hannity, Limbaugh, Gibson, levin, Savage, and thousands of other extreme right wing blowhards who have done immeasurable damage to both civilty and truth to the national debate......but that group of nuts came well before Keith Olbermann.
"That said, just like the Tax LIE you posted several weeks ago, if you lose the essential point of an argument, you try to divert the discussion on to a separate argument while claiming it is the same argument."
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Oh boy...there he goes again.....What actually happened is that I brought the discussion away frow where the silly attention-starved MikeH wants it to be.....a place that makes him feel good and safe in his Olbermann defending position despite the events since that claified what McCain was saying and that the entire counter-insurgency plans in Iraq (AGAIN, OPPOSED BY SENATOR OBAMA, OLBERMANN AND THE REST OF THE ANTI-AMERICAN LEFT AT THE TIME).
Again, MikeH still insists that SNOBamessiah's characterization of General Petraeus' counter-insurgency plan and our troops participation in keping Iraq free from the radicals was right tells us all we need to know about his level of intellignence, depth of partisanship and judgement.
Cee: "what actually happened is that I brought the discussion away from where attention-starved MikeH wants it to be......"
No, what "actually happened" is that you posted a scurious LIE about taxation rates designed to alarm moderate income voters into turning against Obama based on mis-information. This LIE is still bouncing around the internet.
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Cee: Again, MikeH still insists that SBOBmessiah's characterization of General Petraeus' counter-insurgency plan and out troops participation in kepong Iraq free from he radicals was right was right tells us all we need to know about his level of intelligence, depth of partisanship and judement."
It actually says far more about your's because YOU are the only one who has mentioned either Obama or McCain in regards to this discussion My discussion has been entirely focused on the truthful statement that Keith Olbermann made about the surge, and then was subsequentely criticized for telling the truth.
Yes Cee, I'm very good at keeping focus......that is why I have never allowed my discussion about the morality and stupidity of starting this War in Iraq be derailed by month-to-month changes in momentum.
"It actually says far more about your's because YOU are the only one who has mentioned either Obama or McCain in regards to this discussion My discussion has been entirely focused on the truthful statement that Keith Olbermann made about the surge, and then was subsequentely criticized for telling the truth."
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Um, ok.....Keith Olbermann's original comment was a breathless attack on the veracity of something JOHN MCCAIN SAID on CBS News....That is the entire point of the discussion and why some (the radical anti-American left) feel John McCain either lied or is showig signs of Alzheimer's Disease while others (NORMAL PEOPLE) accept Mr. McCain's clarification of his own words and not the interpretation of biased, dishonest people like Keith Olbermann....He is entitled to his ill-informed opinion....just like his wrong opinion about the Iraq War, the surge, Bush's behavior as Chief Executive and upholding his oath of office, etc.....but as time and history has shown.....he and his fans have been wrong......
No impeachment votes.
No Presidential resignations.
No legislative imposed Iraq troop withdrawl (Spring 2008 has come and gone....and what actually happened?....the situation on the ground got better with something done 180 degrees from what the left demanded!).
No loss of Constitutional rights.
No evil hegemonic US invasions into Iran, North Korea or Canada.
No signs of those evil neoconservatives taking over under dark of night!
The world looks pretty much as it did yesterday......The sun is still rising and setting, the birds still sing and MikeH still whines and sobs over the evil Keith Olbermann has created in his little mind that SNOBamessiah has promised to fix with the raising of his hands.....
No Cee, it was a very ACCURATE correction of the record by Keith Olbermann and Anderson Cooper about the both the purpose of the surge and the timing of the Sunni Awakening. It is possible to believe the surge accomplished it's intended purpose without embellishing it's overall effect.
One thing I do find disgusting about the seeming progress in Iraq is how it is being politicized to imply that those who exercised the extremely poor judgement of starting this war in the first place now feel somehow exonerated.
And Cee, while you taunt that "The sun is still rising and setting",.....The sun ISN'T still rising and setting for over 4000 American soldiers and many more than that who were seriously wounded, who probably wish it wasn't still rising and setting for them.
"The sun ISN'T still rising and setting for over 4000 American soldiers and many more than that who were seriously wounded, who probably wish it wasn't still rising and setting for them."
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Sure it is MikeH, just as it is still rising and setting over the country, wives, husbands, children, friends and fellows they and millions of their fellow honorable veterans, like John McCain, decided to sacrifice for in a real and tangable way. Never is this decision detracted from by anyone who understands the real value in their sacrifice....whether it was for a "popular" war, or for a war that was once supported by a large majority of the US population but, like the latest TV star, is now no longer "popular." That change in the American psyche dating back to the rise of the anti-American left is unfortunite, but John McCain, a veteran from an unpopular war, understands your sentiment is anathema to those who do not take such a cynical point of view.
Too bad you have decided to join such cynics like Keith Olbermann (nonveteran and spolied limosine liberal enjoying the fruits of said sacrifice) and SNOBamessiah (effete leftist more concerned about the price of arugula and winning elections for himself over the national interests of our country).
Try as you might to look noble Cee, you look pretty damned small in your pathetic attempt to imply that someone ELSE's ultimate sacrifice is worth the price to you. It's telling how you decided to include "millions of their fellow honorable veterans", while cynically leaving me out of that equation.
That said, "millions" of veterans haven't sacrificed the way those 4000 + did, and THEY would be the first to tell you that themselves.
But whatever......what would YOU know about serving your country in the military?
Cee: "I am not the important person to whom you should be directing this question....Ask SNONmessiah....."
Not, you are just a right wing potlitical attack hack who will clearly say or do ANYTHING you think will help your man win an election....even when it's a lie.
It's funny how in your world, not being a veteran wasn't important when it came to GW Bush, even though Bush ran against one.....NOW, it's important to you.
It's heartening to see the "honorable" John McCain playing to the lowest common denominator by running negative attack ads based on outright LIES. But I'm sure that isn't a problem for YOU, is it Cee.
Mmm...John McCain...survivor of leftist Vietnamese POW camp subjected to torture, both psychological and physical refusing to return home earlier than his fellows when offered....compared to.....
The effete leftist John Heinz Kerry who threw his medals on the dirty ground while accussing his fellow vets of war crimes like that of the most ruthless of warmongers?......
Sorry....no comparison........one was consistently on the right side while the other decided the left was the place to be.....nevermind the impact such propaganda would have on millions of people at the mercy of despotic socialists.....
The same is true now of another source of despotism....the radical jihadists in Iraq.....SNOBamessiah seemed to be ok with them taking over in 2006/2007 at the defeat of the forces of democracy and freedom.....
Oh well....the radical left never changes.....It makes it easy to identify them.
It gives me a fuzzy wuzzy feeling to see the "supreme giver of all light in the world" SNOBamessiah playing to voters stupidity by running nonsubstantive ads based on outright emotionalism and feel-good tripe. But I'm sure that isn't a problem for YOU, is it MikeH?
"Mmm...John McCain...survivor of leftist (you mean't to say communist here, didn't you Cee?) Vietnamese POW camp subjected to torture,"
And you'd think that it's about time he, you, AND the so called "liberal" media stopped leaning on this CRUTCH and grasp that there is a huge difference between having been a veteran and supporting veterans......of which his record is far worse than Obama's based on the ratings of veteran's groups themselves. I guess he's trying to win a presidential election based on belated public sympathy.
While McCain didn't throw his medals on the ground, he DID say that 'he didn't love his country until he was deprived of it's company'....and he said it at least TWICE......Not so different than the statement the right tried to crucify Michelle Obama over.
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"Oh well....the radical left never changes...."
And neither does the radical right in it's never ending reliance on lies and misinformation to win elections.
"It gives me a fuzzy wuzzy feeling to see the "supreme giver of light in the world" SNOBmessiah playing to voters stupidity by running nonsustantive ads based on outright emotionalism and feel-good tripe. But I'm sure that isn't a problem for YOU, is it MikeH?"
It sure beats lying using negative attack ads.....The very thing the "honorable" John McCain vowed he wouldn't do.
It's telling how you've aligned yourself with the candidate trying to win the presidency with sympathy and outright lies against the candidate you claim simply MUST be too good to be true.
The "American Chronical" article is the best I'v seen written acurately describing "the DEPLORABLE ONE". No name calling, no ranting or raving (like I usually find myself doing when I write in to comment here). This guy just states the facts as they are, and systematically dismantles the "Orange Disgrace". I sure hope it finds its way across Olbydouches desk.
EddieB you nailed it as did the writer in his article about the infamous one. States the facts exactly as I have been saying since the first time I ever saw him. All his terms are in there that I have been stating almost to a tee, although he captured a few more that I have failed to mention also with his description of this anti-American's hate filled anger towards anything resembling America.
Yes, all the terms I have used to describe this bitch (treasonous, "lucky to live in America," etc.) were gloriously exemplified by the writer, and without any name calling either. Civilized and to the point, and yet I'm sure there are people out there that would call the writer a "neocon ultra-conservative right winger" simply because the writer stated the facts about a "man" who simply hates anything that's American.
As I have said a million times, he is damn lucky he lives in America ("luck" may have nothing to do with it though, as olbermann may understand that in living here he knows he can't be checked on his anti-American biased opinions) because in any other country if he lied so vehemently and displayed such hatred towards his native country he would be in danger of being arrested or "flogged" as the writer said.
Well maybe in time the powers that be will do something to stop this man and his incessant lies and rantings about how bad America is, because the danger of his lies are right up there with Mata Hari and Toyko Rose. I mean he ACTUALLY has people that believe his shit...
wOLVERINE: "I mean he ACTUALLY has people that believe his shit...."
Yes, there are people who "ACTUALLY believe his shit", and I'm one of them....and we believed it long before he ever appeared ON THE SCENE.....And while you rant on and on WHILE hurling expletives about how this man "hates America", is a "traitor", etc., etc., you always fail to give concrete examples of him telling anything other than the truth regarding REAL substansive issues......And no, I'm not talking about things he might have said about Bill O'reilly or other personalities.
In the last couple of days, I have given an example MANY times about how Keith Olbermann was attacked by this Website and other media personalities for giving an undesputable FACT regarding the timing of Sunni Awakening in regards to The Surge....and yet NO ONE on this site wants to discuss it. It's as if the REAL complaint here is that he told a truth that calls into question the Neoconservatism argument....and therefore, hs shouldn't have done it.
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""Well maybe in time the powers that be will do something to stop this man...."
Wolverine, You are one who NEVER ceases to amaze me. I really DO question whether you REALLY what America is about, and the lofty principles on which it was built. Some of your attitudes and beliefs COULD have come right out of some of the most totalitarian and nationalistic societies that have ever existed....and yet you persist in labeling the beliefs of OTHERS as "un-American" as if you somehow believe you have an exclusive on how patiotism should be defined.
In THIS instance, you are actually advocating the forced silencing of another American in the land of the 1rst Amendment.
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"..his incessant lies and ranting about how bad America is."
Keith Olbermann has NEVER said anything close to calling America "bad"!.......YOU are dreaming this crap up simply because you don't like the ideas of another American speaking out who in reality is every damned bit as patriotic as you are. People like you REALLY seem to believe that the current powers to be are and should be the status quo, but that is NOT how America works, and it is NOT how it is supposed to work either.
Dissention BUILT America....and disention has kept it on the straight and narrow for nearly 250 years. There is NOTHING more patriotic than honest dissention.
I personally believe in the Constitution, but I'm not really sure WHAT you believe in?
I fear you could have been one of those people who would have cheered Senator McCarthy during the depicable and regretable McCarthy era, even though McCarthy was one of the biggest American "traitors" who ever lived because he literally betrayed the Constitution.....which is the highest form of treason in my opinion.
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"this so anti-American's hate filled anger towards anything resembing America."
THIS is apparently the kind of thing you call "facts"; the labeling as "America haters".....that would be any American who doesn't believe as you do, and who is simply using their Constitutional rights to advocate for change of the things that he/she honestly believes needs to be changed.
Listen Wolverine ,.... trying to right the things you honestly believe NEEDS righting in America does NOT make someone an "America hater', any more than wanting to put a fresh coat of paint on your house would make you a 'home hater'.
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"because the danger of his lies are right up there with Mata Hari and Tokyo Rose."
And I literally want to throw up every time I read this absurd statement, which is SO cartoonish and SO over-the-top that it is difficult to believe that any clear thinking American would say, or even THINK something THIS ridiculous.
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Wolverine, all I can say is that I wish more (not less) Americans have the chance to be exposed to your own writings, because I believe most would literally recoil in horror at your fanaticism and close mindedness.......and contrary to all your assertions to the contrary, they would in reality recognize the "danger" of an America run by someone who thinks as you do.....as possibly being the ultimate threat.
I've told you this before, but it seems to go in one ear and out the other.....EVERY time you call Keith Olbermann a traitor, you are also calling me and many others who love our country EVERY bit as much as you do "traitors" as well.
The truth is that what you are mistaking for 'patriotism' is really nationalism in its' most dangerous form.
WOW!!!!!
Wolverine, all I can say is that I wish more (not less) Americans have the chance to be exposed to your own writings, because I believe most would literally recoil in horror at your fanaticism and close mindedness.......and contrary to all your assertions to the contrary, they would in reality recognize the "danger" of an America run by someone who thinks as you do.....as possibly being the ultimate threat....A Mike H "hilarity"
Well let's see where I stand on certain issues and to what I'm about, and then we'll find out where I would stand in regards to the "danger" of an America run by me:
1) I hate, absolutely HATE guns, and believe that no American should be allowed to own one. (Very liberal of me, but unlike most American's I live in a real world where I saw people get shot AND killed by them not to mention being shot at myself). Oh! The horror of living in a real world.
2) I believe that abortion is the most immoral and corrupt law this nation has ever passed. The killing of the innocents for the sake of an "unsure" mother while there are mother's and father's who would give their life to adopt a baby is truly a crime. (Another "right-wing" conservative thought by me that I KNOW would put this country back in the middle ages if abortion was deemed illegal). Oh! The horror of looking out for newborns!
3) I believe in same-sex marriages. What's the big deal if two people of the same sex who are in love (no matter how perverse their way of thinking is to me) want to reap the rewards of marriage? Who gives a flying f..k what sex they are? I feel it is no different than two people of the opposite sex getting married. No harm no foul either way to me. I'm sure this way of thinking would have all of America up in arms, and for the ones who think that homosexuality is an "acquired taste" I have to respectfully disagree, as I believe 100% that they are born this way. Big deal, and live with it I say.
4) I believe that everybody is created equal, and that there should be no "special circumstances" to help those of different colors or races. I got my first real taste of this reverse prejudice when I took the NY Bridge and Tunnel test whereas I scored a 100 on the test, and some blacks complained that the test was unfair and that it must be rewritten. They won the ruling in which a new test was re-administered
whereas I was then not hired when I took it the second time because almost everybody scored a 100 on it then. The first test, which they said was unfair had questions like "if the toll was $4.00 and you were given $10.00 how much change would you give back?" Unbelievable but true, and for me any "special circumstances" to help those who aren't up for the test should never be allowed.
5) I believe that all the illegals now in the country should have the right for their citizenship, but that the govenrment should map out a plan to make sure that there is a way for them to achieve it, and that they are given no less or no more rights than the previous generations who came over before them. Like what my father had to do when he came over. I also believe that a wall should be built to curtail the millions that are coming over here yearly, as too much of a "good thing" can only bring down the economy and our nation. We have to stop it now, and for the ones who are here now I believe that they MUST learn to speak English also like my father had to learn. In other words, no special priviliges because they can't speak the language.
6)I believe that all illegal drug users and sellers should be held accountable for their actions, so I agree with the current laws, but that also there must be drug centers set up for the mandatory rehabilitation for all the users where they are monitored throughout their rehab. I have seen this work for a few people who lived in my street, and have seen it fail too. Either way, drugs have only brought our country to its heels, and the enforcement of the illegal use of drugs must be administered.
7)Last but not least, I believe that everybody should have a voice in regards to what our government does or does not do, but that this voice must be done in an honest fashion with some proof about what they preach. If they are consistently lying about what they preach and say, then they should be held accountable especially if they have a format like the media to spread their lies. Their influence towards millions of people could help or hurt the democracy in which we live, and when it comes to olbermann I see only lies and treasonous things being spread around daily, and DO believe that he should be held accountable.
As for my personal life I was called the "White Negro" whereas I dated all different types of girls and hung with all races where two out of my five longtime friends are black. I married an Hispanic, and while being a manager hired more minorities than any other manager in my company because I saw them as being no different than the whites when they came in looking for a job. I received awards for this too (which I hated, because to me it was condoning the fact that the races were different which I thought was laughable) and have never waivered from this feeling throughout my life.
So there you go Mike H, and if this short synopsis of my life makes me this generations neo-con supreme master of the conservative right, then so be it, but I know I'm not alone with this way of thinking, while I also know that the writer who wrote about him in this article is very alike to the millions of people in this country who truly don't have any "agenda's" outside of seeing America being represented truthfully. Unfortunately, when it comes to this generations Tokyo Rose, olbermann says mostly nothing that is truthful...
Wolverine, stating your positions on specific issues, some of which I agree, and some of which I disagree, and all of which I respect, does nothing to clarify why you feel so comfortable questioning the patriotism of those that simply disagree with you?
As for your continuing assertion that "Olbermann says mostly nothing that is truthful...", I say pvove it!.....Why don't you start with that truthful statement he made regarding the Sunni Awakening in which he was subsequently attacked for saying by Scarborough, Gibson, AND this website?
That said, your claims that you can judge the content of Countdown by reading this website is as utterly ridiculous as if I were to say I could judge the content of The O'Reilly Factor by watching Countdown!
I have over and over questioned the patriotism of olberman not unlike the writer of this article, and one would have to be blind to not do the same.
Have you read the article Mike H, or are you so close minded when it comes to your hero that you can't bear to witness any strokes against him?
Read the article, and then I'll be waiting for your reply that this writer is also a neocon right wing fanatic. There's nothing in the article to suggest that the writer is a crazy right winger, and therefore one would have to surmise that maybe this writer was just stating the obvious which you, in your obsessive love for olbermann, cannot or will not do.
There are all the words I have used in the past, and about everyone I speak to also: "treasonous," "angry" "bitter" etc.
He's a bitter man obsessed with bringing down America, and no matter how many times you see and hear him rip America apart you WON'T and CANNOT see it.
Like the writer says, something happened to this fool in his past that has made him hate all things good in America, and all that's left to do is find out what it was.
I, on the other hand, don't give a crying f..k what made this guy hate America, as all I have to make sure of is that he doesn't go unchecked every time he spews his hate.
The lesser leftist remaining to defend the lies stated:
"In the last couple of days, I have given an example MANY times about how Keith Olbermann was attacked by this Website and other media personalities for giving an undesputable FACT regarding the timing of Sunni Awakening in regards to The Surge....and yet NO ONE on this site wants to discuss it."
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AW, poor boy wants attention. He does not realize that no one discussed it with the twit because a reasonable position is that it is a silly issue that makes no difference in the over-all argument regarding the historical facts around the anti-insurgency policies opposed by the anti-American left throughout 2006 and 2007, as well as opposed by the neophyte Senator Obama.
This is how unintelligent people like Oblermann and MikeH debate. Pound the opponent on YOUR INTERPRETATION of what they said and essentially claim victory. (I have personal experience dealing with such stupidity)
And since the radical left's attack, McCain made it very clear what he was discussing:
"[McCain] told reporters during an unscheduled stop in a super market that, what the Bush administration calls 'the surge' was actually 'made up of a number of components,' some of which began before the president's order for more troops.
"It's all a matter of semantics, he suggested.
"McCain said Army Col. Sean MacFarland started carrying out elements of a new counterinsurgency strategy as early as December 2006.
"At issue are McCain's comments in a Tuesday interview with CBS. The Arizona senator disputed Democrat Barack Obama's contention that a Sunni revolt against al-Qaida combined with the dispatch of thousands more U.S. combat troops to Iraq to produce the improved security situation there. McCain called that a 'false depiction.'"
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iE2JCSH5p9r2GBkQWS9TWAMzmuvQD923R0SG1
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The fact remains that both the "Awakenening" and the "Surge" were both reliant on eachother and the counter-insurgency strategy, which included an increase in troops, was opposed by Keith Olbermann, Senator Obama, the rest of the radical anti-American left including the twit poster asking for attention.
The specific sheik McCain was talking about required the increased security so the the Iraqi Sunni movement away from Al Queda could be substantial.
Anbari tribal leaders did begin to turn against Al Queda in their areas in 2006 before the additional troops arrived, but not before Colonel Sean MacFarland began to apply in Ramadi the anti-insurgency tactics and techniques that were being used in Baghdad. If McCain was saying that Col. McFarland's counterinsurgency approach began the Anbar Awakening then that's pretty much on the mark. The "surge" after all is often shorthand for both the addition of U.S. troops as well as the adoption of a counterinsurgency strategy.
This is a perfectly reasonable understanding of what McCain meant by "the surge" and since he was for such tactics consistently through the said period of history, and his opponent predicted such stradegy would increase the violence and fail, there is reason to believe he knows what he is talking about.
It also all falls apart logically that someone try to use the successful policy they were against at the time and predicted failure to make a argument against someone who supported the correct policy. Simply, this is all a distraction being employed by Senator Obama to try to hide the fact that he had predicted General Petraeus and the troops would make things worse in 2007 when they actually accomplished success 180 degrees from that!
But what does some silly, superficial, lying anti-american commentator safe in NY want to harp on?....HIS OWN INTERPRETATION OF WHAT SENATOR MCCAIN WAS TRYING TO SAY....Even after McCain clarified his comments, some here at OW still want to try to say Olbermann was correct in reading McCain's mind.
SNOBamessiah followers are becoming increasingly shrill as this campaign continues on.
VERO POSSUMUS!
"Read the article, and then I'll be waiting for your reply that this writer is also a neocon right wing fanatic."
You REALLY don't get it, do you Wolverine? You REALLY think a personal opinion article by someone who is no smarter than I am is going to supplant 56 years of experience and service to my country? You REALLY seem to believe that if I can't call someone a Neocon, then all my beliefs are going to be somehow disarmed?
You REALLY seem to believe that anyone who calls attention to or tries to improve what they believe to be problems and mistakes in American policy somehow "hates" America......No matter HOW many times the utter lunacy of this belief is pointed out to you?
You REALLY seem incapable of grasping that Countdown viewers are far smarter and more savy than you think they are. You seem to think that if you just call this man a traitor ONE more time...maybe, just maybe, you will convince us all how wrong we have been all along?
On the contrary, the more you rant that someone who only wants to improve the same things I want to improve is 'ripping America', the more you drive rational people away from your point of view.......The more that you claim that someone who sees the world the way I do 'hates America', the more you only succeed in convincing me that I am right, and people such as yourself are so irrational as to be completely beyond reason.....And the more you call my own Constitutional based beliefs 'traitorous' through a third person, the more I see you as a hopeless fanatic with a closed mind.
The irony of your making a statement like I am "so closed minded when it comes to your hero that you can't bear to witness any strokes against him"......when you are well aware that I am on this anti-Olbermann website as often as I am.....is too mind boggling to believe that a seemingly otherwise rational person might have made such a statement.
Maybe you will NEVER get it, maybe you will......It ISN"T ABOUT KEITH OLBERMANN AT ALL! It is about bringing America back around to a Constitutional mindset that we have strayed dangerously away from in recent years. He just recognizes what is happening.
To cee I say Amen. Your articulation in specifically stating what I have been saying for months now in regards to this Mata Hari is greatly appreciated. The key word I was missing in all my rebuttal's to Mike H is INTERPRETATION. A word in which one can use to try to win every debate without proof or logic.
As usual, you throw out this word and stick to the facts instead of spinning things like most of the left does, and the "gray area" that the lefts like to use as proof simply becomes either black or white.
Another fact used by a normal American that refutes everything the anti-establishment leftists have to offer, but one I'm sure will do nothing to shake their high opinion of the anti-American hate filled one known as Mata Hari...
Cee: "I have personal experience dealing with such stupidity."
I know you do Cee. Every time you look in your mirror, stupidity stairs right back at you.
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Cee: "The "surge", after all, is often the shorthand for both the additional US troops as well as the adoption of a counterinsurgency strategy."
A pretty stupid assessment of US policy considering that the insurgency had been going strongly for almost THREE years prior to this "Adoption" of a counterinsurgency strategy".....and the "surge" that came much LATER was always billed as a stretegy to quell sectarian violence in Baghdad.
That said, just like the Tax LIE you posted several weeks ago, if you lose the essential point of an argument, you try to divert the discussion on to a separate argument while claiming it is the same argument.
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Cee: "SNOBmessiah followers are becoming increasingly shrill as this campaign continues on"
Are we becoming more "Shrill" as his poll numbers increases and solidify?
And as I have been arguing since coming to this site, IF George Bush had acted in an unconstitutional manner, in violation of his oath of office, the assessments spoken by the radical Keith Olbermann would have obtained a more factual level of characterization with either impeachment/removal from office/criminal charges OR resignation/criminal charges. Neither has occurred showing us all that Olbermann is one of but a thousand radical voices in our land......wonderfully allowed to say whatever they want about their political opponents, but still as anti-American, wrong-headed and hateful as those voices in the past like Hari......Thankfully still a minority and marginalized but unhinged, ill-informed, and deceptive none-the-less.
But Cee, your "impeachment" argument sounds just as "shril" and stupid as it ever did. I amazed that you can't come up with something more coherent.
Your argument was and essentially remains that if the president's actions warranted impeachment, then he would have indeed been impeached, which is illogical to the extreme, especially when you factor in this hopelessly partisand and gutless Congress we've had to live with.
Cee: "Neither has occurred showing us all that Olbermann is one of but a thousand radical voices in our land"
Yes, like Hannity, Limbaugh, Gibson, levin, Savage, and thousands of other extreme right wing blowhards who have done immeasurable damage to both civilty and truth to the national debate......but that group of nuts came well before Keith Olbermann.
"That said, just like the Tax LIE you posted several weeks ago, if you lose the essential point of an argument, you try to divert the discussion on to a separate argument while claiming it is the same argument."
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Oh boy...there he goes again.....What actually happened is that I brought the discussion away frow where the silly attention-starved MikeH wants it to be.....a place that makes him feel good and safe in his Olbermann defending position despite the events since that claified what McCain was saying and that the entire counter-insurgency plans in Iraq (AGAIN, OPPOSED BY SENATOR OBAMA, OLBERMANN AND THE REST OF THE ANTI-AMERICAN LEFT AT THE TIME).
Again, MikeH still insists that SNOBamessiah's characterization of General Petraeus' counter-insurgency plan and our troops participation in keping Iraq free from the radicals was right tells us all we need to know about his level of intellignence, depth of partisanship and judgement.
Cee: "what actually happened is that I brought the discussion away from where attention-starved MikeH wants it to be......"
No, what "actually happened" is that you posted a scurious LIE about taxation rates designed to alarm moderate income voters into turning against Obama based on mis-information. This LIE is still bouncing around the internet.
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Cee: Again, MikeH still insists that SBOBmessiah's characterization of General Petraeus' counter-insurgency plan and out troops participation in kepong Iraq free from he radicals was right was right tells us all we need to know about his level of intelligence, depth of partisanship and judement."
It actually says far more about your's because YOU are the only one who has mentioned either Obama or McCain in regards to this discussion My discussion has been entirely focused on the truthful statement that Keith Olbermann made about the surge, and then was subsequentely criticized for telling the truth.
Yes Cee, I'm very good at keeping focus......that is why I have never allowed my discussion about the morality and stupidity of starting this War in Iraq be derailed by month-to-month changes in momentum.
"It actually says far more about your's because YOU are the only one who has mentioned either Obama or McCain in regards to this discussion My discussion has been entirely focused on the truthful statement that Keith Olbermann made about the surge, and then was subsequentely criticized for telling the truth."
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Um, ok.....Keith Olbermann's original comment was a breathless attack on the veracity of something JOHN MCCAIN SAID on CBS News....That is the entire point of the discussion and why some (the radical anti-American left) feel John McCain either lied or is showig signs of Alzheimer's Disease while others (NORMAL PEOPLE) accept Mr. McCain's clarification of his own words and not the interpretation of biased, dishonest people like Keith Olbermann....He is entitled to his ill-informed opinion....just like his wrong opinion about the Iraq War, the surge, Bush's behavior as Chief Executive and upholding his oath of office, etc.....but as time and history has shown.....he and his fans have been wrong......
No impeachment votes.
No Presidential resignations.
No legislative imposed Iraq troop withdrawl (Spring 2008 has come and gone....and what actually happened?....the situation on the ground got better with something done 180 degrees from what the left demanded!).
No loss of Constitutional rights.
No evil hegemonic US invasions into Iran, North Korea or Canada.
No signs of those evil neoconservatives taking over under dark of night!
The world looks pretty much as it did yesterday......The sun is still rising and setting, the birds still sing and MikeH still whines and sobs over the evil Keith Olbermann has created in his little mind that SNOBamessiah has promised to fix with the raising of his hands.....
VERO POSSUMUS!
No Cee, it was a very ACCURATE correction of the record by Keith Olbermann and Anderson Cooper about the both the purpose of the surge and the timing of the Sunni Awakening. It is possible to believe the surge accomplished it's intended purpose without embellishing it's overall effect.
One thing I do find disgusting about the seeming progress in Iraq is how it is being politicized to imply that those who exercised the extremely poor judgement of starting this war in the first place now feel somehow exonerated.
And Cee, while you taunt that "The sun is still rising and setting",.....The sun ISN'T still rising and setting for over 4000 American soldiers and many more than that who were seriously wounded, who probably wish it wasn't still rising and setting for them.
"The sun ISN'T still rising and setting for over 4000 American soldiers and many more than that who were seriously wounded, who probably wish it wasn't still rising and setting for them."
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Sure it is MikeH, just as it is still rising and setting over the country, wives, husbands, children, friends and fellows they and millions of their fellow honorable veterans, like John McCain, decided to sacrifice for in a real and tangable way. Never is this decision detracted from by anyone who understands the real value in their sacrifice....whether it was for a "popular" war, or for a war that was once supported by a large majority of the US population but, like the latest TV star, is now no longer "popular." That change in the American psyche dating back to the rise of the anti-American left is unfortunite, but John McCain, a veteran from an unpopular war, understands your sentiment is anathema to those who do not take such a cynical point of view.
Too bad you have decided to join such cynics like Keith Olbermann (nonveteran and spolied limosine liberal enjoying the fruits of said sacrifice) and SNOBamessiah (effete leftist more concerned about the price of arugula and winning elections for himself over the national interests of our country).
Try as you might to look noble Cee, you look pretty damned small in your pathetic attempt to imply that someone ELSE's ultimate sacrifice is worth the price to you. It's telling how you decided to include "millions of their fellow honorable veterans", while cynically leaving me out of that equation.
That said, "millions" of veterans haven't sacrificed the way those 4000 + did, and THEY would be the first to tell you that themselves.
But whatever......what would YOU know about serving your country in the military?
what would YOU know about serving your country in the military?
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I am not the important person to whom you should be directing this question.....Ask SNOBamessiah.....
Cee: "I am not the important person to whom you should be directing this question....Ask SNONmessiah....."
Not, you are just a right wing potlitical attack hack who will clearly say or do ANYTHING you think will help your man win an election....even when it's a lie.
It's funny how in your world, not being a veteran wasn't important when it came to GW Bush, even though Bush ran against one.....NOW, it's important to you.
You couldn't be any more transparent!
It's heartening to see the "honorable" John McCain playing to the lowest common denominator by running negative attack ads based on outright LIES. But I'm sure that isn't a problem for YOU, is it Cee.
Mmm...John McCain...survivor of leftist Vietnamese POW camp subjected to torture, both psychological and physical refusing to return home earlier than his fellows when offered....compared to.....
The effete leftist John Heinz Kerry who threw his medals on the dirty ground while accussing his fellow vets of war crimes like that of the most ruthless of warmongers?......
Sorry....no comparison........one was consistently on the right side while the other decided the left was the place to be.....nevermind the impact such propaganda would have on millions of people at the mercy of despotic socialists.....
The same is true now of another source of despotism....the radical jihadists in Iraq.....SNOBamessiah seemed to be ok with them taking over in 2006/2007 at the defeat of the forces of democracy and freedom.....
Oh well....the radical left never changes.....It makes it easy to identify them.
It gives me a fuzzy wuzzy feeling to see the "supreme giver of all light in the world" SNOBamessiah playing to voters stupidity by running nonsubstantive ads based on outright emotionalism and feel-good tripe. But I'm sure that isn't a problem for YOU, is it MikeH?
http://tinyurl.com/5aa7y9
(Show this ad to a serious, free-thinking, hard working, independent adult who is undecided, MikeH.....I dare ya!)
THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON HOPE! ANY QUESTIONS?
VERO POSSUMUS!
"Mmm...John McCain...survivor of leftist (you mean't to say communist here, didn't you Cee?) Vietnamese POW camp subjected to torture,"
And you'd think that it's about time he, you, AND the so called "liberal" media stopped leaning on this CRUTCH and grasp that there is a huge difference between having been a veteran and supporting veterans......of which his record is far worse than Obama's based on the ratings of veteran's groups themselves. I guess he's trying to win a presidential election based on belated public sympathy.
While McCain didn't throw his medals on the ground, he DID say that 'he didn't love his country until he was deprived of it's company'....and he said it at least TWICE......Not so different than the statement the right tried to crucify Michelle Obama over.
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"Oh well....the radical left never changes...."
And neither does the radical right in it's never ending reliance on lies and misinformation to win elections.
"It gives me a fuzzy wuzzy feeling to see the "supreme giver of light in the world" SNOBmessiah playing to voters stupidity by running nonsustantive ads based on outright emotionalism and feel-good tripe. But I'm sure that isn't a problem for YOU, is it MikeH?"
It sure beats lying using negative attack ads.....The very thing the "honorable" John McCain vowed he wouldn't do.
It's telling how you've aligned yourself with the candidate trying to win the presidency with sympathy and outright lies against the candidate you claim simply MUST be too good to be true.
I know you do Cee. Every time you look in your mirror, stupidity stairs right back at you.
by mikeh
Just our daily dose.
FACT regarding the timing of Sunni Awakening in regards to The Surge....and yet NO ONE on this site wants to discuss it.
by mikh
You parroted olby's spew. Not facts. Btw, this is Olbermann Watch. Not sunni watch.