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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    August 30, 2008
    As Olbermann Grins, Michael Moore Thanks God that Hurricane Gustav Will Hit the USA!

    Yeah, it's a classic moment in the sort of journalism that began with Edward R Murrow, continued with Tom Brokaw, and now is de rigeur at MSNBC. And yeah, you can see the video at the Countdown website, or at Hot Air. But here at Olbermann Watch we like to put these things into OlbyPlanet perspective for you. And that's the purpose of this special remix:

    UPDATE: You know you've moved beyond the lunatic fringe--out to where the busses don't run--when the Daily Kos thinks you've gone too far:

    • I had to turn Countdown off
    • What I don't get is his incoherent glee. His delivery was tasteless, and there's no excuse for it.
    • You can't begin to compare a rainstorm to ruin an outdoor speech and the potential disaster of a category 3 (4?) storm hitting an already struggling area. Really poor taste on moore's part, and Keith should have called him on it.
    • There is no excuse for the disgusting things Michael Moore said. And why didn't Keith rip him a new one? Keith has no problem attacking President Bush on a daily basis. But he's afraid to stand up to Michael Moore?
    • KO and MM have gone so far in their hatred for GWB and the Republicans that they appear to be rejoicing in any and all disasters that take place in our nation or around the world. The death of any soldier in Iraq, or the destruction of any home in New Orleans is no longer a tragedy to KO, rather it is more material for his show and his hatred of the President. How sad when persons like KO or MM actually take pleasure in the death and destruction of others.... Shame on Olbermann.

    Posted by johnny dollar | Permalink | Comments (146) | | View blog reactions

    146 Comments

    I enjoyed the remix, but what Moore said is cold, insensitive, disgraceful, and ghoulish. I don't know what else to say. Just stay tuned to FNC and The Weather Channel, which despite being under the NBC Universal umbrella, is nowhere near MSNBC.

    Low Blow KO, "We are literally dreadful, sorry excuses for human beings."

    But it ws ok for what Billo said you guys a delusional, and it was obviously Tongue in cheek, a bad joke , be he is not malicious like your precious Billo

    Hey Mike go listen to some jazz and shut the hell up, it was a joke a bad joke nonetheless, but what did your Boy Billo say, but to fixed news lovers that ok.

    You win again. My music just sucks, doesn't it?

    Howard Hessman is a friend of mine
    Howard Hughes is simply asinine
    Talks mean, talks tough
    Talks like a fan of Huff
    Take his keyboard away and listen to him whine

    Actually, I have a problem with this video, all kidding aside. Why add the "We are literally, dreadfully sorry" part to it. Anyone really believe, having watched the clip, that KO would have said that?

    Take that part off, J$. While I love that clip, in its original context, it just doesn't apply to this video.

    Actually, I have a problem with this video, all kidding aside. Why add the "We are literally, dreadfully sorry" part to it. Anyone really believe, having watched the clip, that KO would have said that?

    Take that part off, J$. While I love that clip, in its original context, it just doesn't apply to this video.

    A really tasteless and stupid joke on Michael Moore’ part.
    He should apologize.

    Here is a guy who thinks he is America’s voice but lives the lifestyle of a movie star.
    If anybody at Fox news would have said something like this Keith would have bored the air waves with one of pompous special comments.

    Then we have to endure a tremendous close up of Michael’s face.
    He tries to make us believe he is a working man like us by dressing sloppy, not getting his hair cut and saving only once a year.
    But Mike, the middle class does shave, get hair cuts and occasionally wear nice clothes.
    So give it up and act like yourself.

    I don’t think its coincidence that right after McCain was the clear favorite to win the Republican nomination months ago, Keith has made him the worst person on a weekly basis. Keith has not made Obama the worst person once, and he can sit there and tell us he is not campaigning for Obama?

    I know Rachel Maddow has been praise on this website by a few people but her comment about Palin “she’s a laugh out loud choice” isn’t exactly keen political incite. If that’s the kind stuff she’ll do on her show, then I don’t expect it to get any ratings.

    You know I was thinking.......Would Olbermann accuse Bill O'Reilly of "something" if a popular and more talented coworker at the network he worked at met with an untimely death every 10 years?

    I don't mean to Russert any feathers but far be it from Mees not to say what's on my mind.

    Just a thought.

    As someone who works in New Orleans, lives just outside of New Orleans and was out of their house for 6 months because of Katrina, I find Moore's politicization of Gustav particularly disgusting, even for him. For Olbermann to not call him on it makes him a party to the insult.

    BOR's comments were obviously tongue and cheek, while Moore seemed genuinely happy a devastating hurricane was headed toward Louisiana, causing God knows what kind of damage, all for a few political points. Moore is truely a disgusting human being.

    If Moore believes a Hurricane hitting on the eve of the Republican convention proves God's wraith against the GOP then what dose it mean when the same Hurricane hits his pal Castro's Cuba?..plus KO thinks it funny for Moore to hope for a killer Hurricane to hit the Republicans and yet get's "outraged" over a Preacher who just wanted a little rain(and only rain) to fall on Lord Obama speech? New Murrow indeed.

    It is typical that liberals love bad news, be it bad economic news or a natural disaster because they think it will advance their political ideology.

    I agree MLong. To hope for a hurricane, that will undoubtedly kill people, to strike just to mess up the Republican convention, well that is just sick. "Tax Cheat" Olbermann once again demonstrates how truly vile he is.

    BTW, I can hardly wait until "American Carol" comes out. It will give the odious Moore a taste of his own medicine. Casting Chris Farleys's brother as the Moore-like Michael Malone was genius.

    Me either, Rick. I am definitely going to see that when it opens. I just hope it's opening in enough theaters here on Long Island.

    Just more proof of what a hypocrite bloberman is
    And mooreon is another no talent loony left wing daily kos hack
    Will quief strongarm the pussies at nbc into giving mooreon his own show

    And, oh, by the way, BOR is in "An American Carol." :-)

    Like most liberals, Keith and Mike "the Hut" Moore could care less how many people die as long as they can blame republicans. Lives are nothing more than a political tool.

    Moore is nothing but a RETARDED FAT SLOB. What he calls the work that he does is a lazy mans fantasy. In retribution for his comments the other night on the looser channel, he should donate a MILLION Dollars to relief to the southern states. Along with the donation, he should drive down there and help out sandbagging or just lie down amongst the other sandbags already in place (he looks like an overstuffed sandbag). And since Slobbermann went along with the comment, he should also pitch in with a contribution, and if he does'nt, well then we'll all know what a tight ass he really is.

    Oh yeah and by the way, msdnc got slammed in the ratings this past week amongs the other dem channels. Keep up the good work keiffy, your ships sinkin.

    Moore is nothing but a RETARDED FAT SLOB. What he calls the work that he does is a lazy mans fantasy. In retribution for his comments the other night on the looser channel, he should donate a MILLION Dollars to relief to the southern states. Along with the donation, he should drive down there and help out sandbagging or just lie down amongst the other sandbags already in place (he looks like an overstuffed sandbag). And since Slobbermann went along with the comment, he should also pitch in with a contribution, and if he does'nt, well then we'll all know what a tight ass he really is.

    Oh yeah and by the way, msdnc got slammed in the ratings this past week amongs the other dem channels. Keep up the good work keiffy, your ships sinkin.

    Moore is nothing but a RETARDED FAT SLOB. What he calls the work that he does is a lazy mans fantasy. In retribution for his comments the other night on the looser channel, he should donate a MILLION Dollars to relief to the southern states. Along with the donation, he should drive down there and help out sandbagging or just lie down amongst the other sandbags already in place (he looks like an overstuffed sandbag). And since Slobbermann went along with the comment, he should also pitch in with a contribution, and if he does'nt, well then we'll all know what a tight ass he really is.

    Oh yeah and by the way, msdnc got slammed in the ratings this past week amongs the other dem channels. Keep up the good work keiffy, your ships sinkin.

    Moore is nothing but a RETARDED FAT SLOB. What he calls the work that he does is a lazy mans fantasy. In retribution for his comments the other night on the looser channel, he should donate a MILLION Dollars to relief to the southern states. Along with the donation, he should drive down there and help out sandbagging or just lie down amongst the other sandbags already in place (he looks like an overstuffed sandbag). And since Slobbermann went along with the comment, he should also pitch in with a contribution, and if he does'nt, well then we'll all know what a tight ass he really is.

    Oh yeah and by the way, msdnc got slammed in the ratings this past week amongs the other dem channels. Keep up the good work keiffy, your ships sinkin.

    Moore is nothing but a RETARDED FAT SLOB. What he calls the work that he does is a lazy mans fantasy. In retribution for his comments the other night on the looser channel, he should donate a MILLION Dollars to relief to the southern states. Along with the donation, he should drive down there and help out sandbagging or just lie down amongst the other sandbags already in place (he looks like an overstuffed sandbag). And since Slobbermann went along with the comment, he should also pitch in with a contribution, and if he does'nt, well then we'll all know what a tight ass he really is.

    Oh yeah and by the way, msdnc got slammed in the ratings this past week amongs the other dem channels. Keep up the good work keiffy, your ships sinkin.

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    Hey Johnny you can call me a spammer all you want, what place was Fixed news in last week was it likre 4th place, and it is so fair and balanced, if it was where were all your precious democrats , Hmm watching a real news channel listening to honest news people comon admit it all you Johnny Dullard.com has is all your cronies telling you everything you want to hear, gosh that must feel so good, to have what like maybe 10 people blog on your site what does the pound have thousands you wish in your heart you had that, and when your little trolls come over we seek and destroy, you dont like guys like me and Haggis because we speak just like the man you wish you were, Olberman, you have some kind of obsession with him just like the hounds are obsessed with speaking the truth about fixed news, i know you will delete this before too many read it and that cool. But if a few of your little trolls read it that is fine with me. As it was proven last week than when Obama took center stage Fox went in the tank, what will happen when he becomes president, same thing Cnn and Nbc and Msnbc will pass Fixed news and a new generation of viewers will get to hear real news not slanted and fixed, Game Over Fox

    Attn: Howard Stooge

    According to the neilsen ratings for thursday night 8pm time slot Bill O beat the crap out of keith the Moron.
    8PM - P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
    The O’Reilly Factor- 3,002,000 viewers (703,000) (1,317,000)
    SR/DNC 2008- 3,405,000 viewers (1,340,000) (1,724,000)
    MSNBC Special Coverage – 1,806,000 viewers (663,000) (887,000)
    On the Money –a scratch w/ 98,000 viewers (56,000) (a scratch w/49,000)
    Nancy Grace –1,244,000 viewers (464,000) (594,000)

    Game over msnbc

    But Billo did not beat cnn (the most trusted name is news) What happened to the number cable network in the tank, hahahahah this is just the beginning, people want fair and balanced not twisted and spun, that is why cnn won and fox didnt, Obama supporters will watch cnn which mean bye bye fox

    I think G.E's light bulbs are burning out. Fox is nowhere near the tank that msnbc is in. Look at the difference between the 2 networks, Fox's people are friendly with each other, even Hannity and Colmes are able to work together. Whereas slobbermann and Chrissy and anyone else that comes on msnbc (excluding boy toy Maddow) are at each others throats.
    Yes, you want to talk about being in the tank, just keep on watching msnbc until the lights go out. Slobbermann is probably going to have to have security just within his own shows settings. But then again, he does not have the balls to have a guest on set with him with an objective view for the fear that he'll get smacked down. Yes, you want to talk about Slanted News, just keep on watching your messiah channel msnbc.

    McCain / Palin 2008 your next President and Vice President

    Howard the Duck
    You are missing the whole enchilada here son, Fox is a neutral station, they weren't in it for ratings during a democratic convention. I mean, what are you going to say this next week when the Republican convention goes on and Fox cleans everybodys clocks?
    Yes, it might be true that Bill O might not have beat cnn but he sure beat the crap out of keiffy boy and beat him every night last week. Msnbc is definately in the tank, so YOU might have to start watching spongebob on the cartoon channel in slobbermanns place.

    Well Spogebob at least does not twist the news in their favor, how can you say fox is neutral their boy ailes worked for Nixon, reagan ,Bush 1 and Rush limbaugh and he was once quoted calling liberals Nazis, and also why is it the great Doocy arguement that The reason that Mccains veep choice Palin is good at foreign policy is because Russia is close to Alaska, wow what a newsman, and her experience she runs a state that has as many people as columbus ohio, give me a break. The debates are coming and Buzz saw Biden will destroy her.

    I beg your pardon but Fox does not twist the news, it reports it like it is. Whereas msnbc gets their news from lefty blogs and goes with it unchecked. As for this Doocy guy, give me a break, are you going to sit their in your bathtub with olby and tell me that you are going with this one guys voice and not listen to anybody else? And for the reference about Ailes, what about OsamaObama's friends ( Wright, William Aires who bombed the U.S. , Father Pflagger the white wannabe black preacher, and so on). I think Biden is in for a whoopin, possible a smackdown from Palin. What's really neat about this new scenerio is that McCain has the Military experience and Palin RUNS the Alaska Military as opposed to OsamaObama who has no experience at all and as for Biden..........well i haven't done my homework on him, cause i would just be wasting my time on a looser.

    democrats???
    you mean like ed rendell and hillary clinton,even they said fox was the fairest and most balanced network.

    and when will your daily kos'manazi hack have someone on his infomercial with an opposing opinion or have a real debate with someone who doesnt work for msDNC

    why would anyone want to be olberwoman???

    he is the morton downey jr. of his time!!!

    even his colleagues are sick of him and know he and his kos'manazi suckups like maddow and shuster are trashing the integrity of the network

    FNC beat MSLSD every night in total viewers and 3 out of four in the faux L + SD category.

    Hey Howard.
    Obama supporters will watch cnn which mean bye bye fox

    No Duh, you just put your foot in your mouth. Yes, OsamaObama supporters will watch cnn over watching msnbc, the rest of us watch Fox and anything but msnbc. I'd be lying to you if I said I don't channel surf and pick up bits and pieces of slobbermann. That's how I get my facts on all these issues, I surf the news channels and weigh it all as opposed to your one sided slant.
    Yes, definately a SINKIN SHIP on the horrizon


    SOCalRightest: Sorry, but I just can't help but wondering if you might have had a better understanding of the free trade issue, who actually supports it, who champions it, and who doesn't, ..... if you didn't rely on and defend the so-called "fair and balanced" (wink-wink, nod-nod) FOX network so much?

    Now I have another lesson for you; it is perfectly OK to criticize MSNBC for being biased to the left, ...... but you look AWFUL silly when you try to defend FOX as being "fair and balanced" within the same argument.

    omg is your argument preachers Comon, they said he didnt, and for McCain military experience, being a pow for 6years make you qualified , did the Hanoi Hilton have a college he went to so he study political science, doubt it, and running the Alaskan military thats laughable, who is the Alaskan army attacking Vancouver, or the North Pole. Ed Rendell wanted Hillary to win and Hillary was kissing everyones ass at the end, when she new she was toast, I am more Anti fox than pro olberman, but he usually call it right when it come to your news department and another thing of fox is so fair and balanced why is every Fox supporter a republican in here make no sense to me. and since i was picking on doocy Ill pick on some more
    1 Carlson-stupid (Doocys Lil bitch)
    2.Megyn Kelly- racist (those peolpl shouldnt wear those colors)
    3.Ed Hill- enough said (terrorist fist jab)
    4.Kilmeade-Doocy whipping boy.
    5.Hannity-elitiest said Ok for McCain to cheat on wife ( He was a pow)
    6.Billo-war monger wanted San Francisco blown up
    7.Hume -Republican
    8.Cavouta- FOx Business (Boy there ratings are good)

    Howard, can you explain to me why so many McCain supporters seem to think his misfortune of having been a POW somehow qualifies him to be president......when that SAME group of core supporters didn't seem to be particularly concerned that Bush had spotty attendance in a plushy National Guard assignment.....while they simultaineously defended spurilous attacks on an opponent who served honorably in Vietnam?

    I find this kind of hypocrisy rather puzzling....don't you?

    From the most recent Pew poll:

    The audiences for CNN and MSNBC, which were heavily Democratic two years ago, have become even more so: fully 51% of CNN's regular viewers are Democrats while only 18% are Republicans. MSNBC's audience makeup is similar - 45% of regular viewers of MSNBC are Democrats, 18% are Republicans.

    The regular audience for the Fox News Channel continues to include more Republicans than Democrats. Currently, 39% of regular Fox News viewers are Republicans while 33% are Democrats; in 2006, the margin was 38% to 31%.


    FOX News....Fair and Balanced!

    I don’t know who won the ratings war but if MSNBCTV did it’s because people like watching a disaster happen.

    1st - Keith and Joe Scarborough have an awkward argument on air, started by Keith.

    2nd- still fuming from the exchange with Keith, Joe and David Shuster go at it.
    In the argument David interrupts Joe while he is reporting the news, calls Joe bias to the Republican party and then Joe goes off on David for about 5 minutes.

    3rd – Keith insults Chris Mathews on air which angered Chris to the point where is stops the program on air, looks Keith dead in the eye and fires back an insult of his own at Keith. That moment was heated, awkward and not the first time it’s happened.

    4th- Joe Scarborough makes fun of Keith over and over again on air.

    5th- Minutes after Obama’s speech Keith attacks an AP writer that didn’t love Obama’s speech.
    Which justifies all the critics that say Keith is campaigning for Obama.

    I’m sure MSNBC executes will have all these parties in one room and try to hash out all these problems, if not these unprofessional moments will happen again and again. Good for ratings bad for board cast news

    Hey Mike thanks for the pickup.

    Joe Ill tell you about disaster , Fox and Friends thats a disaster, Ed Hills shows thats a disaster, anything with Billo thats a disaster and of course Clannity that just to funny. And for fighting at least MSNBC is showing some heart, as misguided as it might seem, they lost their Leader(Russert) so the chick might leave the henhouse but what is Fox excuse
    here it is We just suck

    MSNBC's ratings are in the toilet, Joe. CNN's too.

    Cnn beat fox last week
    the beginning of the end for the Fixed News

    Fox News Channel was the fourth most-watched cable channel in prime time last week (8-11pm, Live +SD) and the 7th most-watched Total Day.

    CNN was 13th & 27th in those categories while MSNBC was 27th & 23rd.

    http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/original/Week%20of%208-18-08%20(Live+SD).pdf

    MikeH
    When have I EVER said anything about McCain's POW status? That's right NEVER. When I speak of McCain and his military background, im speaking about him BEING in the military as opposed to OsamaObama.MikeH, you need to stop twisting things here and making things up as you go or you will remain the LOOSER that you are and your Democratic party that it is. You MikeH are a puzzling individual yourself. Again, and let me repeat this AGAIN, I told you that I was not for the free trade agreement and acknowledged to you that I understood that it was a bipartisan agenda, and even being a republican that I am, I, unlike you reserve myself from certain things that my party does. MikeH, I want you to read that last sentence over and over again until it sinks in and you can put it to rest. And you might try reading glasses also, I did state that I not only watch FOX, but just about all of the news channels so don't go there Helen when again you put words in my mouth that you are saying that I have stated FOX.... fair and balanced, because I have never typed that here. I am starting to think that MikeH and Howard are getting a little pissed that their men (OsamaHusseinObama and IchyBiden) are gonna get the shit slapped out of themselves by McCain and Palin. And if you are talking about Kerry's Vietnam experience, that was a joke.

    at the debates cnn had better ratings

    at the debates cnn had better ratings

    hey socalrightist
    Does being a pow make you a good president probably not, unless the hanoi hilton offered a college coarse in Political Science, what McCain went through was terrible, but geez it is thrown at us all day by Fox (noun verb pow) John is even bringing it up, John Kerry got a purple heart in vietnam (but was swiftboated) And this being in the millitary (why does that matter) W has a millitary background (done a great job with that) Cheney(same) Rumsfeld(awesome job in Irag) give me a fucking break.

    and no body but nobody but fox gives a shit about those fucking Pew polls , Fox must have made it up. because no body else had heard it ashley

    Howard, Kerry stubbed his toe and got a purple heart....wooppee. It still does not give him the right to lie about all that he did in Vietnam. The Swiftboats took him to the cleaners and WON. Now, give me a fucking break you MORON.

    I'll be back later on tonight. I have to take my wife and my 3 girlfriends out for dinner and dancing. That's right....3 girlfriends.

    Eat your hearts out all

    answer the question about Mccain and his boys . the switboater admitted after the election he lied. and a purple heart is a purple heart you fuck,

    SoCalRightest: "MikeH, when have I EVER said anything about McCain's POW status?"

    My comment conecerning that wasn't directed at you. My comment addressed to you was specifically about FOX and free trade.
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    SoCalRightest: "When I'm speaking about him BEING in the military as opposed to OsamaObama."

    Well then, using your same logic, unless you have served in the military, as I have.....you are not nearly in as good a position to judge whether that qualifies someone to be CIC as I am.....and I say it doesn't!

    By the way....why do you keep referring to Obama as "OsamaObama"?.....Do you REALLY need to use silly ad hominem crutches like that to help you make your point?
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    SOCalRightest: "I told you I am not for the free trade agreement"

    I know, but you seem to misunderstand exactly what I am addressing; You disparaged Bill Clinton for going along with free trade agreements, as if you thought that was the worst policy mistake he had made. If the worst policy mistake he made is really a conservative idea, then you must not have much of a problem with policies of the democrats.

    You've also made it pretty clear what you are against that the Republicans are for, but you haven't enlightened us as to what else you believe that makes you overlook the republican's stand on free trade?

    Enquiring minds want to know!

    SoCalRightest: "I have tio take my wife and 3 girlfriends out for dinner and dancing."

    Fine, but I hope you're not filling them up with your values when you don't even seem to understand which party is most in favor of what you say you are against.

    "You can't begin to compare a rainstorm to ruin an outdoor speech and the potential disaster of a category 3 (4) storm hitting an already strugging area."

    You're absolutely right....you can't!

    However, that doesn't excuse the tastelessness of all those republicans who verbally expressed their wish for that to happen. To use a sports metaphor, that is kind of like wishing the opposing quarterback would break his arm just before the big game.

    That said, the potential political ramifications of such an event, and it's aftermath, cannot possibly be determined!

    McCain has so much great momentum from his VP pick, they should postpone the convention until New Orleans is in the clear.

    It would show America that John McCain is not your typical leader....AGAIN.

    McCain has so much great momentum from his VP pick, they should postpone the convention until New Orleans is in the clear."

    So you think he has gained momentum, even though this pick shot about a thousand holes in his only argument....you know, the one where he keeps saying how much experience matters??

    Please Quads McCain is not your typical leader he is not a leader at all, if he was they would not be trying to give away Rnc tickets on his websites, he does not have the Obama base and since half the republicans are like a 100 most cannot get out of bed. Momentum was called Obama speech on thursday, McCain pick is like a turtle crossing the road, give me A break

    "Please Quads McCain is not a typical leader he is not a leader at all."

    No Howard, he is a classic panderer who wants to be president so bad that he will say or do ANYTHING he thinks will help him win. Some recent evidence below:

    - This VP pick in which he believes will snag Hillery voters. I hope he isn't right with his cynical assessment that Hillary women are THAT stupid.

    - He was against more offshore drilling before he became it's biggest advocate (for political reasons of course).

    - The "gas tax holiday" (for political reasons or course).


    For MikeH:
    Well then, using your same logic, unless you have served in the military, as I have.....you are not nearly in as good a position to judge whether that qualifies someone to be CIC as I am.....and I say it doesn't!
    For your information IDIOT, I was in the Marine Corp, served for 22 years, 2 tours of Nam, retired as a full bird Col. Don't try and spew your crap on me asswipe. Your continued rhetoric on issues to numerous people here on this site is getting a little bit old. I will debate you from time to time, but your logic, from what I have wittnessed is beyond me and most people here. I quote you,"You disparaged Bill Clinton for going along with free trade agreements, as if you thought that was the worst policy mistake he had made."
    No, just one of his worst mistakes was shutting down military bases across the U.S. 2nd was his lying to the American people that he did not have sex with that woman. Clinton was a hack just like you are. Bush has turned out to be an IDIOT that just did not care about the welfare of this country.
    Again,"If the worst policy mistake he made is really a conservative idea, then you must not have much of a problem with policies of the democrats.
    I have a problem with the majority of the Dems policies...They're just plain wrong. When a party (DEMS)wants to take my hard earned money and squander it to 3rd world countries, illegal immigrants, free lunch programs etc. etc. I have a problem with that, I guess you don't?
    As for Howard........ NO, a purple Heart is NOT a Purple Heart. A REAL Soldier with a stubbed toe would have walked it off, but not Kerry...so I guess that makes YOU the REAL FUCK now.
    Class Dissmissed

    WHOA
    Free Lunch programs , so lets let kids starve you are an elitiest republican, Still Rambo has (Bush,CHeney,Rumsfeld) people with military backgrounds did for our country what has their experience done, a war 4000+ killed for what oil ( oh i forget those WMD) were the hell are they. And Clinton having sex with another woman please(McCain comes back from Pow land and cheats on his wife ) and leaves her (disabled no less) for a woman with money, awesome morals you boy has.And a purple heart is a purple heart (he did serve his country didnt he) did Bush (oh yes is the Air Natl Guard) when we were at war with ?

    WHOA
    Free Lunch programs , so lets let kids starve you are an elitiest republican, Still Rambo has (Bush,CHeney,Rumsfeld) people with military backgrounds did for our country what has their experience done, a war 4000+ killed for what oil ( oh i forget those WMD) were the hell are they. And Clinton having sex with another woman please(McCain comes back from Pow land and cheats on his wife ) and leaves her (disabled no less) for a woman with money, awesome morals you boy has.And a purple heart is a purple heart (he did serve his country didnt he) did Bush (oh yes is the Air Natl Guard) when we were at war with ?

    WHOA
    Free Lunch programs , so lets let kids starve you are an elitiest republican, Still Rambo has (Bush,CHeney,Rumsfeld) people with military backgrounds did for our country what has their experience done, a war 4000+ killed for what oil ( oh i forget those WMD) were the hell are they. And Clinton having sex with another woman please(McCain comes back from Pow land and cheats on his wife ) and leaves her (disabled no less) for a woman with money, awesome morals you boy has.And a purple heart is a purple heart (he did serve his country didnt he) did Bush (oh yes is the Air Natl Guard) when we were at war with ?

    WHOA
    Free Lunch programs , so lets let kids starve you are an elitiest republican, Still Rambo has (Bush,CHeney,Rumsfeld) people with military backgrounds did for our country what has their experience done, a war 4000+ killed for what oil ( oh i forget those WMD) were the hell are they. And Clinton having sex with another woman please(McCain comes back from Pow land and cheats on his wife ) and leaves her (disabled no less) for a woman with money, awesome morals you boy has.And a purple heart is a purple heart (he did serve his country didnt he) did Bush (oh yes is the Air Natl Guard) when we were at war with ?

    Howard: you're not worth debating.

    And socalelitiest
    Your not worth a pot to piss in

    "So you think he has gained momentum, even though this pick shot about a thousand holes in his only argument....you know, the one where he keeps saying how much experience matters??"

    It's still valid though. Palin started her career in public service five years before Obama and was an actual chief executive who actually did some pretty awesome stuff. Obama was a senator for less than three years and didn't accomplish much of anything. Neither Hillary nor Bill could name anything he accomplished in their speeches (OK, Bill did give him credit for running a good campaign and picking Biden). Biden could only name two pieces of legislation from Obama's 140-working day senate career and they turned out to be non-events that passed on voice votes. McCain will certainly keep hammering home the fact that that Obama has never accomplished anything of any substance in his life and I'm sure the Obidens will hammer back at Palin. But that will only remind people once again that the No. 1 guy on Dem side has a tissue-paper thin resume. Remember, people vote for the president, not the VP.

    "he is a classic panderer who wants to be president so bad that he will say or do ANYTHING he thinks will help him win."

    You've got to be kidding. That defines Obama to a T. The guy has abandoned nearly every position he ran on in the primary and is now serially lying in order to get elected (for political reasons of course).

    I understand, Mike and Howard, how distressed you must be. The day after your convention and all the talk is about the Republican ticket and no one gives a rat's ass about Obama's 45-minute speech. We've got a real man, a bona-fide war hero, as our number 1 and a young, attractive, FEMALE, chief executive with an actual record of achievement as our no. 2. You, on the other hand, have a metro-sexual pretty boy with all kinds of nasty baggage (Rezko, Ayers, Wright, etc.) who can't put three cogent sentences together without a teleprompter and a guy who has spent his entire adult life in Washington and is best known for being an ass and plagiarizing his life story from a European. Add to all of that the fact that this is supposed to be the DEMOCRAT's year, what with everyone hating Bush and all, and yet your guy just can't seem to pull ahead in the polls. Yes, I can see how you Democrats must be scared shitless.

    the polls today showed Obama 49 Mclame41
    Sounds like to me your a scared racist who is scared to death a black man will become president, get over it , running a state that has the pop of Columbus Ohio, and If Obama has no experience why was he nominated alot of scared people right he got like 21 million votes didnt he , republicans crossed party line to vote( what for a man with no experience)dont think so. 80 thousand people heard his speech, look what experience has gotten us the last 8 years a war, 4000 +dead in Iraq, bad economy, people loosing their homes, high bankruptcy, 4 dollar a gallon gas, if that what experienced politicians gets us , I want no part of it

    SoCalRightest: "For your information IDIOT, I was in the Marine Corp, served for 22 years, 2 tours of Nam, retired as a full bid Col."

    Good for you Cal, and thank you for your service....but as your own posts make it pretty darn clear, being in the military does NOT qualify one to be President.

    I would have thought that a full bird Colonel would have been a little smarter and show more class than you do. I wonder how many debates you won in the Military by calling people names?

    If you had read my post a little more carefully, then you would have noticed that I didn't say you had not been in the Military....I said "if". But precision really doesn't seem to be your style.
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    SoCalRightest: "2nd was his lying to the American people that he did not have sex with that woman."

    Again, you SHOULD have read my post a little more carefully before you responded. I said "POLICY" mistake. His little affar was not a "policy" mistake. Becoming a republican because Clinton had no morals makes about as much sense as becoming a democrat because Bush is an "idiot".

    I don't have a clue why you think shutting down some bases was such a big policy mistake because you didn't back up your argument. Nor is it clear why you think that "mistake" tars the Democratic party as a whole?
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    SoCalRightest: "I have a problem with the majority pf the Dems policies...They're just plain wrong. When a party (DEMS) wants to take my hard earned money and squander it to 3rd world countries, illegal immagrants, free lunch programsetc. etc. I have a real probem with that. I guess you don't?"

    I've got some news for you Colonel, it's not just the "(DEMS)" that are guilty of 'squandering' money in the ways that you have mentioned. The illegal immigrant problem was created by BOTH parties, but Reagan (R) REALLY got that ball rolling with his original amnesty program without attempting to control the border afterwards.

    I also have a problem with the way my country has "squandered" billions upon untold billions in a needless occupation war of a country that didn't attack us. Money we don't even have. (I have a problem with that, I guess you don't?).

    Now, since the only specifics you mentioned regarding Dem policies you think are "just plain wrong" involved vague charges of squandered tax money that BOTH parties are equally guilty of doing, I'll just have tio guess as to what the other policies you believe are "just plain wrong"
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    SoCalRightest regarding Kerry: "NO, a purple heart is NOT a Purple Heart. A REAL Soldier witha stubbed toe would have walked it off, but not Kerry....so I guess that makes YOU the REAL FUCK now."

    No, but that certainly does make YOU pretty classless for making those kind of ad hominem characterizations.

    As a former memeber of the military, I will ONLY accept the opinions of those who served directly WITH me, NOT a bunch of political hacks who did NOT serve with Kerry. THOSE were the swift boaters Colonel. The ones who actually served with and under Kerry stood behind him with only one exception, who was NOT with him very long, OR during any combat situations.

    As much as we disagree, I would expect that you would agree that the ONLY ones qualified to judge you would be those that served WITH you?

    In short, it remains a FACT that the Swift Boat campaign was the biggest and most despicable LIE ever pulled on the American People for political purposed, and even your candidate, John McCain, agrees with that Colonel! Thats why "swift Boat" has become a new word in the English language meaning false political smears. It is also one of the reasons I personally detest the republican party as it exists today.

    Oh yes, of course I'm a racist because I won't vote for a black person. LOL. No, Howard, I would be perfectly happy if Colin Powell were to become president, but he's not running unfortunately. I'm not voting for Obama because he is a far-left liberal light-weight who has done absolutely nothing of any substance in his entire life. As a conservative Republican it makes no rational sense for me to vote for someone like that when my other choice is a conservative like John McCain. Now, if Obama were running against Satan, for example, or even one of the lesser demons, then I would certainly be