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This is the recappers' comment thread for Countdown, August 12 2008.
Welcome to You Write the Recap 2.0. This is a special thread for you to post your comments on the night's Hour of Spin. Note everything salient: smears, distortions, bias, lies, non-barking dogs...the works. Watch the first showing, the repeat, or view the videos at the Countdown website.
We'll go through the comments, organize them, and they will form the nucleus of our official OlbyWatch Recap. That will be posted separately, later tonight, for maximum visibility and impact. We'll credit all the commenters for their contributions, and may toss a few opinions of our own into the mix. We need your help to document the shameless "journalism" of Krazy Legs Olbermann.
What to watch for tonight: We actually have a leak about tonight's "worst person" segment. Herr Olbermahn is going to branch out and do something original, unprecedented, unique. You guessed it: another O'Reilly attack. Heads up, MikeC. The word is "Man on Fan" Olbermann is going to equate the hush money paid to Reille Hunter and Andrew Young with...(drumroll)...O'Reilly settling his lawsuit! All of this as MSNBC flies the American flag upside-down.
Be an Olbermann Watch blogger without all the muss and fuss! Comments are open: post your analysis of tonight's Hour of Spin here, and watch for your insights later tonight in the official OlbyWatch Recap.
I don't think I want to be in the room when MikeC watches the WPitW nominees tonight. Good luck, buddy...
Thank you, John.
It may be more than a 'worst person' bit. It may be an entire segment. So steel yourself, Mike.
Also you guys watching out there, try to see if we can get coverage of all five segments. Or at least the first four.
Chris Kofinis is again shilling for Barry Soetoro. We can set our clocks to the Soetoro tank dweller. Tank Boy says McCain has crossed "a political rubicon" by saying Soetoro is not American enough. Rip-n-Read Olby said Hillary Clinton's refusal to brand Soetoro as un-American was a great accomplishment regardless of any other rotten thing she has done. Nice touch with the knife-turn, Olby. Stay classy.
Because some don't like the use of "B. Hussein Obama", I will refer to the socialist formerly known as Barack Obama by his adopted name of Barry Soetoro, which just might be his legal name . If this is the case, all of the money for the "O" propaganda is going down the rathole. That would be an interesting development.
If the stories from Kamabites1 are true, KO is in no position to be teasing sex scandals, and I'm betting they are. Word has it he's not exactly a stand up guy in that territory (without phamaceuticals anyway). At least O'Reilly didn't have a website devoted to his commentary before, during, and after a supposed liasion with a fan. One has to wonder if money changed hands to make that site disappear.
I hope he ends the O'Reilly segment with a Shakespeare quote. That would make my night. Wonder if he still wears the blue beads for luck.
Wouldn't it be great if some night he accidently said "Karmabites1" instead of "Andrea Makris". Damn that would be worth sitting thru this torture.
Philly - I saw that too. Why is Olbermann trying to blow smoke up HRC's behind now? He understands he's only sitting in the Obama/Kos/DU section of the Dem party seats. How will he make his way back in the Clintons' good graces because they're not going anywhere and he'll do anything to look like he belongs with the cool kids.
By the way, Bill O'Reilly will be at the Dem convention. I hope someone can get a picture of KO running like a woman if they come into view of one another. Plus it should be interesting to see KO sweat at the GOP convention later in the season. Who will speak to him in the hotbed of conservativism? Chris Matthews? Gene Robinson? No story there. Not to mention the fact that the Kossacks will be crazed when he is supposed to interview a Republican. How will he pacify the loons?
For this relief, much thanks.
I just know a Clintonista dirty trick is on its way. They must have something up their sleeves just in time for the convention.
This is rich. While Olbermann is pissing around with some kind of Frank Burns imitation and ranting about number discrepancies, O'Reilly is discussing the need to follow the Edwards campaign money. I am curious where the millions to support the mistress, the child, and the campaign advisor came from also. So which segment has more substance?
Hey Philly - how about this one
I pray you, do not fall in love with me, For I am falser than vows made in wine.
Merlot anyone?
Ok, it seems that most of the #1 story was just KO's typical baseless smearing of Bill O'Reilly ("Frank Burns of news" [ding!], "Makris" [ding!]), but I don't know what to make of the charge that BO's lying about the homeless vet stat. Has anyone read the source?
They key to the homeless stats is that Edwards' original statement was that there were 200,000 homeless vets sleeping in streets tonight. I believe Olby is relying on statistics for homeless vets who are sleeping in streets on any given night over a year's time. In other words, the number of homeless vets or any other group on a particular night (Edwards claim) is far lower than the total of every night of the year added together (Olby's numerical sleight-of-hand).
I am in no condition to do any recap of any kind right now because a certain token far-left antagonist that shall remain nameless went back to attacking me in the thread "Countdown w/ Keith Olbermann, Aug 11 2008: OlbyWatch Recap". He has brought me to tears. And I am dead serious about that. He made me out to be some kind of evil comment police. And he arrogantly touts that he has Bob Cox on his side. The nerve of him.
He doesn't even care that I have Asperger Syndrome and very hypersensitive emotionally.
I missed it tonight. Yea, the Edwards money and timeline needs to be thoroughly examined. His got a fresh pack of lies that need to be examined.
The bottom line is that he cost Hillary the election....bigtime.
I'm feeling better now and will recap after all. Stand by.
"The bottom line is that he cost Hillary the election.....bigtime."
That is obviously your opinion, but I think you are wrong. I believe Obama would have beaten Hillary more soundly had Edwards not been a candidate. And the exit polls back up my opinion.
These are the only straightforward data I could find about the number of homeless vets on any given night:
http://www.nchv.org/background.cfm
"How many homeless veterans are there?
Although accurate numbers are impossible to come by -- no one keeps national records on homeless veterans -- the VA estimates that nearly 200,000 veterans are homeless on any given night. And nearly 400,000 experience homelessness over the course of a year."
But I've searched around the web and still don't know where both Olbermann and O'Reilly are getting their stats.
Countdown's about Bill and FoxNews
Bashing Bush and Keith's latest ruse
Untruthful reporting
Obama supporting
Phone it in and simply hit snooze
Actually, I'm an idiot. I just realized that those data are old. The number is 154,000 according to the Dept. of VA (updated March 6, 2008). But even so, I think O'Reilly might have been referring to data even more recent.
"Also you guys watching out there, try to see if we can get coverage of all five segments. Or at least the first four." (J$)
--And I'm sorry for harping on the one story you don't need covered! As a long-time viewer of BOR, it's where I have more of a frame of reference within which to critique KO's distortions.
#1: O'Reilly Attack #504. Keith "Man on Fan" Olbermann continues to fee his Olbsession by linking the Rielle (MC NOTE: it's pronounced "Reilly" as in "O'Reilly") Hunter and Andrew Young hush money to the evil O'Reilly settling his suit with the disgruntled former employee whom I will name and provide [dings] for momentarily. It's an enormous stretch, but hey, this is OlbyPlanet.
The segment began with OlbyFriend Seth MacFarlane voicing the introduction to "Factor Fiction" as Stewie Griffin. I'll spare you the copy (script), but it ends with Stewie...uh...tinkling on our humble correspondent. Classy. Oralmann says "Bill O'Reilly is the gift that keeps on giving, and the bottomless mug of root beer, and for the matter, the bottomless *pit*, too." We could say the same about you, Rip 'n Read. The upper-right graphic reads "The Falafel [ding!] Guy Fatwa" and features the big head on the small body; stuff we're used to by now. Frank Burns of News! [ding!] Sideshow Bob comparison. Delusions of grandeur! "Billo the Clown [ding!] goes after John Edwards and manages only to remind everyone about Andrea Mackris [ding!] while actually making feel sorry for John Edwards." (See? I told you I'd be dinging her name eventually.) "The translation to human is mine." Human? If you want the human translation, watch the video of the segment that is distorted by KeithO the Klown: http://tinyurl.com/5emwtx
Or read the full transcript: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,402242,00.html
Meanwhile, on OlbyPlanet, the Ted Baxter voice rears its ugly head again. First, here is how the Talking Points Memo began last night:
"We had the mistress story last spring, but chose not to air it because of the pain it would bring to Elizabeth Edwards, a brave woman, and her three children. Also, Edwards was out of politics by then. If he had held power, it would have been a different story."
Keithy only read the first sentence and played serious, referring to Bill as essentially being a cold, uncaring, xenophobic bigot (not using those words) following the row house fire in the Bronx in March '07: http://billoreilly.com/show?action=viewTVShow&showID=1245#1
He "ignored the grief." "Their immigration status was so much more important to O'Reilly than their heartbreak that he almost got into an on-air fist fight with Geraldo Rivera over the story!" Aha! Another Olbermann Lie. The "fist fight" was in the wake of a fatal car crash in Virginia Beach in April '07 that killed two teenage girls. The driver that caused the accident was a *criminal* illegal alien (not a regular one). However, considering that the crash happened only a month after the deadly Bronx fire, I can understand why BOR got as worked up as he did (before he and Geraldo returned to normal in the last minute; it was just heated debate, after all).
Olbermahn went on to read more from T-Points, but stopped short of the clip of Joseph Califano asserting BOR's point about the majority of homeless vets being addicted or mentally ill:
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JOSEPH CALIFANO, AUTHOR, "HIGH SOCIETY": Our work and most of the research will show that about 90 percent of the homeless in this country have drug problems or alcohol problems or both. The real tragedy here is most of those veterans have had combat experience that are suffering from drug and alcohol problems and mental health problems, and we are not taking care of them.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
O'REILLY: And that is the true story. It has nothing to do with the economy. For calling Edwards on his exploitation, we were subject to stuff like this:
And a clip of Edwards on "The Late Show" in January, where he and David Letterman did Olbermoronn proud by bashing Mr. Bill, was played.
Bypassing the clip, Keith responded: "In Billo [ding!] land, if you *are* addicted or mentally ill, it doesn't matter if you got that way while you *served* this country. It's all your fault, and the government should not spend Bill O'Reilly's money on you."
But let's go back to T-Points, coming out of the Letterman clip:
O'REILLY: What bull. Just so you know, about 10 days ago, the Department of Housing and Urban Development issued a report saying there are 125,000 chronically homeless in America right now. 10,000 homeless veterans. 10,000. So Edwards was simply lying.
In addition, we examined how Edwards himself fit into his "two America" scenario. We showed you his over-the-top $6 million house in North Carolina, located across the street from a mobile home park where everyday folks live. We sent our crews down to talk to some of those folks about Edwards, who often jogs by.
That second paragraph was, of course, ignored by Merkle. Instead: "Actually, Bill is lying or *too stupid* to have read the entire H.U.D. report. Or both." Bogus stats shown on screen to make Edwards look like the hero and our humble correspondent look like the idiot. Playing serious again: "John Edwards was and is *damned right* about that and Bill O'Reilly is a lying snake oil salesman." We're going that route again? "So, did he pull that 10,000 homeless veterans figure out of his...brains? No. He misread intentionally or otherwise a joint announcement *from* Housing and Urban Development and the Department of Veterans Affairs..." Oh, I can't take this anymore! Whatever else Oralmann did in the remaining 2:20 is irrelevant to me. Good night...and bad luck to you, Keith Olbermann!
This is time I could have spent watching the partially-fixed-against-the-U.S. Olympics. But no, I had to spend it recapping this a-hole. I know you all like me and appreciate the recapping that I do, but it is absolute torture having to recap segments where my hero is beaten into the mud, made out to look like a horny buffoon, and his audience made out to look like hospice (not hospital, HOSPICE) patients that are about to die! All ages watch "The Factor"! All ages, Olbermoronn! People in their tweens, teens, 20s, 30s, all the way into their 90s. Are they all irrelevant to you, you fiend?! Yes, I used the word you used to describe KSM while you condemned waterboarding in your Special Education Komment last year. You think I forget stuff like this? You're dead wrong. I never forget stuff coming from people or sports teams I despise. Yes, I despise you. For the love of God, get your ass back in sports! NOW!!!!!