Countdown w/ Keith Olbermann, Aug 18 2008: OlbyWatch Recap
"COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN" (8:00 P.M.-9:00 P.M. ET)
Host: Keith "Czechoslovakia" Olbermann
Topics:
- McCAIN IS A CHEATING, CRAZED LIAR!
- McCAIN IS A CHEATING, CRAZED LIAR! PART DEUX
- VEEP SPECULATION
- McCAIN IS A CHEATING, CRAZED LIAR! PART TRES
Guests:
- Howard Fineman, Pundit for All Occasions
- Rachel Madcow, failed Err America comedian
- Chris Cilizza, Washington Post scribe desperate for air time
Keith Oralmann sings a chorus of "Your Cheatin' Heart" as he delivers breathless scoops of things that were known long ago. Ladies and Gentlemen, it's The Hour of Spin!
Don't miss our OlbyWatch Special Education Komment Exclusives: dramatic reading by the OlbyRobot, and fully-annotated transcript!
ktt:
Olby and Madddow are making me dizzy by talking in circles. I need to take some dramamine. Fineman just said the media is being too nice to McCain. Is he truly kidding me? Maybe he's dizzy from hearing too much Olbermann.
Philly:
Olby is not one who should talk about "failing upward". He is the poster child for that. How this mental case of a baseball card freak got on national television with a nightly hour of spin, I will never know. I think Satan played a part in that transaction.
Howie Fineman owes me a keyboard: He claimed that Loon Andrea Mitchell is "the paragon of objective reporting." HAR! That was a knee-slapper. The air is getting thinner on Olby planet.
J$:
All this slobbering over Andrea Mitchell and this great "scoop" about McCain being in a motorcade. That was known Saturday morning. It was reported Saturday afternoon, hours before the forum began! Did Olbermann need a diversion from how the candidates performed? Is that why he's pretending that McCain's Saturday schedule was a mysterious secret until the National Barack Channel talked about it on Sunday?
ktt:
Let me get this right. Olby's fake outrage is over his belief that McCain CHEATED at a FAITH forum? Like no one could predict what those questions would be? Like no one watched the democratic forum on religion earlier in the primaries, and gosh I bet some of those questions would be identical. Like no one hypothesized those questions in the multitudes of articles that preceded the forum? Has eveyone lost their freakin mind?
But hey, if it means KO is going to do one of those steroid-pumped rants that make his jowls shake and his veins pop out on command, well, I'm all for it. There's so little comedy on tonight. Comment forth, KO. I'll get my popcorn.
Philly:
Rick Warren gave both candidates a few questions in advance. And Rick Warren absolutely did use the term "cone of silence", which I construed as a joke anyway.
Given the timing, McCain wouldn't have had much time to get advance questions and then have time to rehearse spot-on responses from the hotel to the green room. And he already knew some of the questions because Warren divulged them to both camps. And I won't go into the ummmm, errrrrs and uhhhhhs uttered by Barry, which took up at least 10 minutes of the first 30.
The Factor:
John McCain won at Saddleback??? HE MUST HAVE CHEATED!!!! An EVIL RELIGOUS NEOCON ZELOT THOUGHT CRIMINAL gave McSHAME the answers. Karl Rove was with McCain in "cone of silence". Remember if republicans win, it is because they cheated on Olby planet. Diebold invented a special hearing devise for McCain. It was given to him by Karl Rove.
Mike C:
WPitW: Kristol was named because the NY Times corrected his column. Then, he was basically called a lousy writer. Corsi was named because, in a March column, he suggested that al-Qaeda was endorsing McCain (or something, I forgot already). This was followed by another conservatives-are-dumb jab.
Billo the Clown! [ding!] "He has cried havoc and let slip the dogs of war!" Stalker producers! [ding!] Church shooter hated liberals! Sainted "Newsday" columnist mentioned our humble correspondent in an article about said shooter. The producer "waited in her driveway and then abused her." Any of you OlbyWatch readers buying that? Fat Ass replied: "Seriously, Bill, for that?! Are you 100% paranoid now?! The next time you send one of these guys out, will it be to harass some guy that cut you off on the Pulaski Skyway?!" If a "Factor" producer did indeed ambush that Newsday columnist, it'll probably be a while before the video is shown, what with back-to-back conventions and all. [So it will be a while before we actually see how phony Oralmann's claim that the woman was "abused" really is. Nice timing, Fat Ass. --J$]
The Special Education Komment [see appendix for the complete annotated text as well as the dramatic reading by the OlbyRobot]
Great Thanks:
Wow, Olby still claiming the Surge didn't work....
ktt:
Special comment? A given. Those ratings were dropping. A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do and if it means spitfest and whiplash flipping from camera two to camera three then so be it. Grab the rain poncho for the laughing stagehand before he thinks tropical storm Fay has hit him.
Great Thanks:
This is easily his weakest and non-point-having SEK ever. Obviously thrown together at the last minute. And I guess "grow up" is more grown up that bellowing "Shut the hell up" into the camera, Jimmy Legs.
Philly:
This stuff sends Olby's roids in an uproar. A Meltdown Tizzy.
SoCal Rightist:
WOW, I mean WOW? I just got done watching Slobbermann EXPLODE. His Special Comment tonight was over the top for him. I almost fell out of my recliner when he said that McCain needed an ATTITUDE ADJUSTMENT. Then he has the nuts to tell McCain to GROW UP. This wack job has finally lost it. It's like the joke that's going around that OsamaObama and McCain are ice fishing and whoever catches the most fish in 3 days wins the Presidency. To make a long story short, Obama claims McCain is cheating by cutting holes in the ice.
MLong:
he said that McCain needed an ATTITUDE ADJUSTMENT"? I guess KO means like the one the North Vietnamese gave him? New Murrow indeed.
Observer Dan:
ANOTHER REASON WHY KEITH WOULD CATCH A BEAT DOWN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD I COME FROM: He used the words " calumny, persiflage, and dyspeptic" all in the same sentence. And had a whiney, pinched look on his face,too !
J$:
And don't forget McCain telling kids to "get out of my yard". I mean, that's another great original thought of Herr Olbermahn's. So original that the blue bloggers sell it on t-shirts! Well, now we know where Edward R Olbermann lifted that part of his Special Education Komment from, don't we?
JohnO:
"What Davis is really saying here, of course, is that he wants no level of objectivity, that the only campaign he wants questioned is Obama,..."
Thanks for your interpretation Keith, but his actual words did not say that at all. If that were the case, wouldn't it make sense for Rick Davis to send that letter to all major news organizations requesting more objective coverage? After all, NBC and MSNBC's viewership makes up only a portion of the voting public. No, the reason MSNBC was singled out as a "concern" is because of the shameless pro-Obama hackery performed during the 8pm Hour of Spin. You even come close to admitting this yourself:
"Senator McCain -- did you pay any attention to the Democratic primaries? Did you notice the hair-pulling frenzy of some of Senator Clinton's supporters who could not face the possibility that her loss might have been her fault -- or theirs -- and thus it must be ours?"
Yes, remind us again Keith of how you threw Sen. Clinton "under the bus" [ding!]. But that was a nice trick, trotting out another Democrat to create a smokescreen of non-partisanship. You're right, though- the public sees through this nonsense.
CountDung:
Now this is funny and and prophetic, Olbermann always starts his 1st comment after his main Kos blog with: "Tip Jar". It's all about himself begging for recognition from the the KOS kids living in Mom's basement. This time asks for tips to buy popcorn. As if his spiel is equivalent to a great football game.
I remember Terrel Owens saying the same thing about playing my NY Giants. How'd that work out? I can see Olby crying just like Owens: "You know this isn't about Barack (sniff, sniff) You guys can talk about the vacation but if you do it isn't really fair (sniff, sniff). We lost as a team man, we lost as a team (arghh, sniff, sniff)
APPENDIX 1: SPECIAL EDUCATION KOMMENT, OlbyRobot dramatic reading:
APPENDIX 2: SPECIAL EDUCATION KOMMENT, annotated transcript:
Four times in just two days, Sen. McCain's campaign managers have, simply, hung him out to dry.
First, trying to scapegoat the media, in the exact way that has spelled doom for other presidential candidates already watching from the sidelines.
Second, doing so with a petulant statement so full of holes that it virtually confirms that which was reported, and which set off this pointless temper tantrum in the first place.
Third, sending the candidate out to speak before the Veterans of Foreign Wars convention, even as the millstones of a series of disastrous, anti-veteran votes, still figuratively dangled from around his neck.
And fourth, encouraging Sen. McCain, while there, to address his opponent in the language of unseemly contempt, undignified calumny, and holier-than-thou persiflage unsupported by reality, near-nonsensical bluster that at best makes the speaker look like a dyspeptic grouchy neighbor shouting "Hey you kids, get out of my yard."
[camera pivot, look downward at notes]
"Though victory in Iraq is finally in sight," you told the VFW today, Sen. McCain, "a great deal still depends on the decisions and good judgment of the next president. The hard-won gains of our troops hang in the balance. The lasting advantage of a peaceful and democratic ally in the heart of the Middle East could still be squandered by hasty withdrawal and arbitrary timelines. And this is one of many problems in the shifting positions of my opponent, Sen. Obama."
[look up to camera again]
The shifting positions of Sen. Obama?
Sen. McCain, on the 22nd of May, 2003, you said, of Iraq, on the Senate floor, "We won a massive victory in a few weeks, and we did so with very limited loss of American and allied lives. We were able to end aggression with minimum overall loss of life, and we were even able to greatly reduce the civilian casualties of Afghani and Iraqi citizens."
[ratchet it up]
Senator, you declared victory in Iraq, five years and nearly three months ago.
Today you say, "victory in Iraq is finally in sight?"
The victory you already proclaimed five years ago?
Are we going back in time Sir?
[be careful not to squeak too much on "sir"]
If that had not been enough, in June of 2003, with even Fox News noting "many argue the conflict (in Iraq) isn't over," you answered, "Well, then why was there a banner that said 'Mission Accomplished' on the aircraft carrier? Look, I have said a long time that reconstruction of Iraq would be a long, long, difficult process, but the conflict, the major conflict is over, the regime change has been accomplished, and it's very appropriate."
[look up from fake notes]
In 2003, your war was won, because somebody was putting up a banner.
In 2008, your war might finally be won, because you are putting up a campaign based on the mirage that Iraq is winnable.
And yet it is Obama shifting positions on Iraq?
Even if this country were to forget, Senator, the victory lap you and President Bush took five years ago just on their face, your remarks today at the VFW, Senator, are nonsensical.
"Senator Obama commits the greater error of insisting that even in hindsight, he would oppose the surge. Even in retrospect, he would choose the path of retreat and failure for America over the path of success and victory."
This construction, Senator, is extremely simple.
If your surge worked, the troops would be home from Iraq. Or most of them, would be. Or all of them who were surged, would be. Or at least we'd have the same number of troops in Iraq now, as we did then. Or maybe one or two guys would be out of harm's way.
[whatever you do, don't stumble on "one or two"...oh well, never mind]
Please, Sen. McCain, stop! This is embarrassing.
[camera pivot here; don't forget your ad-libbed Sigh of Superciliousness]
Whether on his own impetus or an advisor's, the Senator also foolishly invoked his opponent in that speech today.
Previous political careers have foundered on the rocks of the VFW Convention: The Republican majority in Congress and the Senate, the very viability of Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, began to unravel at this convention two years ago--that was the venue for the first of Rumsfeld's two references to Bush critics as Nazi Appeasers.
Prudence and judgment, demanded that Sen. McCain tred lightly. Instead he told the convention, "I suppose from my opponent's vantage point, veterans concerns are just one more issue to be spun or worked to advantage."
This would explain why he has also taken liberties with my position on the GI Bill.
"As a political proposition, it would have much easier for me to have just signed on to what I considered flawed legislation. But the people of Arizona, and of all America, expect more from their representatives than that, and instead I sought a better bill. I'm proud to say that the result is a law that better serves our military, better serves military families, and better serves the interests of our country."
Sen. McCain spoke out against that very bill last May on the asinine premise that the warwards to our heroes were so good that it didn't encourage them to stay in the service. Or perhaps force them. More over, Sen. McCain missed 10 of the 14 Senate votes on Iraq up to the middle of last year. This year, he has missed them all including one to honor the sacrifice of the fallen.
He has voted to table or oppose:
$20 million for veteran's health care facilities
$322 million for safety equipment for our troops in Iraq
$430 million for veterans outpatient care
$1 billion in new equipment for the National Guard
And, in separate votes:
[use the agitated side-to-side head shake here, but be careful that Ashleigh's glasses don't fall off]
$1,500,000,000 in additional Veterans' medical care, to be created by closing tax loopholes
$1,800,000,000 in additional Veterans' medical care, to be created by closing tax loopholes
[look alive: another camera pivot!]
And yet, Sir, you have the audacity to stand in front of the very Veterans you repeatedly and consistently sell out, and claim it is your opponent who has put politics first, and country second.
[use your Voice of Ridicule for this]
"Behind all of these claims and positions by Sen. Obama lies the ambition to be president," you said, with a straight face, today. "What's less apparent is the judgment to be commander-in-chief. And in matters of national security, good judgment will be at a premium in the term of the next president as we were all reminded ten days ago by events in the nation of Georgia."
Senator, three points:
Your increasingly extremist and reactionary language towards Sen. Obama really the method by which you want to try to achieve the Presidency or perhaps split the country if you succeed?
[you might want to leave out that bit about extremist language; why make yourself a target?...oh well, never mind]
Criticizing a man for having quote "the ambition to be president?" Seriously? You do realize you are currently running for president, as well, right? That either you also have "ambition to be president" or, what?, somebody's blackmailing you into it?
[louder; use the head-shake as well as the side-to-side sway as you crank it up]
You might want to ask somebody, somebody other than say, your Foreign Policy Advisor, Randy Scheunemann whether or not you are making a jackass out of yourself every time you bring up the conflict between Georgia and Russia.
The Georgians have paid Mr. Scheunemann and his companies 800-thousand dollars over the last several years to lobby for them. It's pretty clear the Georgians have bought Mr. Scheunemann. And, Sen. McCain, it sure as hell looks like the Georgians thought they had bought you.
When you had the tastelessness to paraphrase the rallying cry of 9/11 and say that we are now all Georgians, that nation's President called you out. He said that your words were very nice, but he needed action...
[Laughing Stagehand, watch out for spit here]
not a verbal receipt from a lobbyist and his pet Senator!
[ratchet down, and don't forget: another camera pivot; insert The Pause of Significance]
Going back to the beginning of this sad 48 hours of paranoia from the McCain Campaign.
We have manager Rick Davis's unfortunate letter to NBC News, about Andrea Mitchell's excellent reporting on the possibility that Sen. McCain violated the so-called "Cone of Silence" for the Rick Warren Presidential Forum over the weekend.
[remember not to call it "excellent" reporting, since it was reported before the forum began that McCain would be in a motorcade, and you'll just look like a corporate shill pretending like it was some big scoop...oh well, never mind]
The coverage of this detail, and that forum in general, is, to start with, overwrought. But Mr. Davis has elevated them to the ridiculous.
As Nate Silver at the website 538.com noted, Andrea's reporting, reporting of what the Obama camp claimed, included two essential observations:
"McCain may not have been in the cone of silence" and that he
"May have had some ability to overhear what the questions were to Obama."
Rick Davis writes to NBC: "The fact is that during Senator Obama's segment at Saddleback last night, Senator McCain was in a motorcade to the event and then held in a green room with no broadcast feed."
As Silver astutely notes, for roughly the first half of Obama's participation, his own campaign manager places McCain in a car where he could have been made aware of the questions to Sen. Obama. "In a motor vehicle," Silver writes, "one may use the radio, a cell phone, a Blackberry, Bluetooth Wireless, a Sling box, and perhaps a satellite TV feed. Whether McCain actually used any of those devices, we have no idea. But he absolutely had the ability to use them, which is all that Mitchell had reported. Silver also tripped over Mr. Davis's strange observation that for roughly the second half of Obama's participation, his own campaign places McCain "in a green room with no broadcast feed." Not a green room without cell service or internet, nor without a closed-circuit feed, nor, for that matter, without a guy running back from the audience with notes, written in crayon.
Rick Davis's argument is, in short, illegitimate.
It is an attempt to pick a fight with the media, over the journalistic equivalent of chewing gum in class.
[crank it up a bit; we have to ramp things up for the Big Finish]
"This is irresponsible journalism and sadly, indicative of the level of objectivity we have witnessed at NBC News this election cycle," he writes.
"We are concerned that your News Division is following MSNBC's lead in abandoning non-partisan coverage of the Presidential race. We would like to request a meeting with you as soon as possible to discuss our deep concerns about the news standards and level of objectivity at NBC."
What Davis is really saying here, of course, is that he wants no level of objectivity, that the only campaign he wants questioned is Obama's, and that "partisan coverage" consists of questioning whether McCain or his campaign support the stage whispers branding Obama as somehow 'foreign,' or whether McCain is to be inoculated from all criticisms by dint of his military service.
[camera pivot; The Sigh of Exasperation; slam papers on desk]
Sen. McCain, did you pay any attention to the Democratic primaries?
Did you notice the hair-pulling frenzy of some of Sen. Clinton's supporters who could not face the possibility that her loss might have been her fault or theirs and thus it must be ours?
Do you remember the apoplexy of a washed up Republican operative named Ed Gillespie, writing a furious letter to NBC on behalf of President Bush?
Mr. Bush's support has since dropped.
And Sen. Clinton's supporters have now relocated to such a degree that her "eighteen million voices" first re-counted themselves as "two million" and were then unable to get even 250 people to show up at a meeting.
The public sees through this nonsense about media, Senator, they see through it quickly.
NBC and MSNBC do not have the power to seriously impact an election.
If we did, Sen. Pat Buchanan would already be serving with you.
Besides which, Senator, who in your camp thought it was a good idea to take a shot at NBC and MSNBC during the Olympics on NBC and MSNBC?!?
[louder; use the circular head shake here]
During the Olympics, Sen. McCain, on which you have already run millions of dollars' worth of McCain Campaign commercials on NBC and MSNBC!?!
[use the semi-asthmatic intake of breath, here]
Senator, let me wrap this up. You and your campaign need a serious and immediate attitude adjustment. Despite what you may think, Sen. McCain, this is not a coronation. Despite how you have acted, Sen. McCain, you have no automatic excuse to politicize anything you want.
Despite how you have whined, Sen. McCain, you have no entitlement to only sycophantic, deceptive, air-brushed coverage in the media. And despite how you have strutted, Sen. McCain, you have no God-given right to the Presidency.
[louder, crank it up to 11]
Let's have an adult campaign here, in other words and I am embarrassed to have to say this to a man who turns 72 at the end of this month Senator, grow up!
[Look away from camera, rustle papers]
Good Night And Good Luck!
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Whatzizname: McCain, even though he didn't cheat and he didn't lie, IS GUILTY! UNDENIABLY GUILTY of failing to be ensconsed in the CONE OF SILENCE at the appointed time! John McCain, GUILTY of tardiness and bullying Princess Andrea!
Well, that pretty much dooms any chance he had of winning the election.
The Obama camp starts a rumor that John McCain was at an advantage for the Saddlebrook forum and the Obama lackeys at MSNBC repeat the rumor in place of covering the many meaty issues that were discussed.....What quality journalism!
The Obama supporter Olbermann dedicated a valued SPECIAL COMMENT to lament the PROCESS instead of analysis of where the candidates stand on such issues as abortion, gay marriage, adoption incentives, poverty initiatives, etc.....What quality journalism!
I'd be interesting in hearing WHY McCain couldn't make it to the Saddleback venue before Obama's interview started.
I don't think for a moment that McCain cheated, essentially the areas of discussion had already been revealed to both candidates. My issue is that we live in a world now where ANY (the pettier, the better) sort of avenue to accuse a political opponent of malfeasance is going to be skated down with bells on. How could the McCain camp NOT have been entirely aware of that?
It's perplexing how McCain and his people didn't seem to know that some reporter-- in this case-- Andrea Mitchell-- was promptly going to relay accusations of lying under the pretext of reporting info about what the Obama camp was saying. EVEN THOUGH the same media held off on breathing a word about public accusations against a possible VP pick (John Edwards) until the guy admitted they were true.
In a sense, that waste of good carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen: Keith Olbermann; is right. McCain HAS been treated too well by the media (In this campaign that's largely because he's been ignored, in the past it's because he's criticized evangelical pariahs and fellow Republicans.)
Unless the McCain Campaign has a good explanation for why he couldn't get to the interview before it commenced, I don't see any other explanation.
Grow up? Isn't that like the pot calling the kettle black?
> I'd be interesting in hearing WHY McCain couldn't make it to the Saddleback venue before Obama's interview started.
I don't know why he couldn't be on time. There may be a good reason, there may not. I'm more interested in the coverage angle of this. It was clear on Saturday morning that McCain would arrive late to the forum. It was reported publicly that he'd be in a motorcade for about the first half-hour. Everyone knew this: NBC, the Obama campaign, etc. It was not "secret" information that was only ferreted out by that tenacious investigative reporter Andrea Mitchell.
So the question arises: why did this circumstance suddenly become a matter of intense controversy after the forum was held? If this was such a serious breach, why is it that no one was questioning it until after the forum was held and the reviews were in? Last night Olbermann is reporting this like it was the equivalent of the Watergate tapes. The Obama camp is spreading word of outrage over this violation of protocol. Yet they knew about it all along.
Why?
Because McCain did better than they imagined. (You say "duh"...)
I suppose Pastor Warren issued some ammo with the "cone of silence" thing. I got the picture McCain was being held in a sound-proof booth (ala Win Ben Stein's Money) too.
I had no idea McCain was in a motorcade before the proceeding and if I had known I would have thought by Warren's remarks, that McCain had arrived before the Obama interview and was being sequestered.
I bet the McCain camp is more careful and aware of what they're dealing with from here on out.
Will Olbermann report Rev. Warren's response to the controversy?.....
"It's a totally bogus issue. It's challenging the integrity of the Secret Service, challenging the integrity of my security staff, and challenging the integrity of John McCain...."
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Doubtful....the attack was made to distract from Obama's comparatively poor performace and also to change the subject from the issues discussed (when does life begin, Clarance Thomas' inexperience to be a Supreme Court Justice....how ironic!). Olbermann served his purpose well.
Olby to do something which bats down the conspiracy theories rampant on the liberal loon websites? Hell no he won't go there!
as much as the obamma lovers hate to admit it, he just does not do well when he is not reading off of a tele-prompter. That also may be why Olberman likes him so much. They have something in common
Whatzizname: John McCain-SERIAL TARDIER!
The defining questions of this campaign-What did McCain know, when did he know it and where was he when he knew what he knew? Well? Senator McCain? We're waiting. Where's that so-called straight talk, huh? How long do you expect the people of this great country to wait for you to come clean? How can you think, for one second, that by stone-walling on your personal responsibility for this dishonest, egregious and patently un-American activity you can continue to ask the American people to trust your judgment, believe your silly and childish and mean-sprited slurs against your opponent and cast a vote for you? Do you think that by ignoring the mounting and damning evidence that exposes, not for the first time by the way, your total lack of character, a condition that right thinking Americans believe would preclude your qualification to serve as dog catcher, it will some how simply melt away? Is it possible that you really expect anyone to believe that your status as a long ago, former POW excuses for one instance your arrogant, strutting, presumptuous, self rightous belief you deserve their adulation and their vote?
It's a simple question, Senator. Yes or no. Don't wait for the translation, yes or no?
Good night and good luck.
(Am I getting too good at this stuff?-)
>I suppose Pastor Warren issued some ammo with the "cone of silence" thing. I got the picture McCain was being held in a sound-proof booth (a la Win Ben Stein's Money) too.
Or "Family Feud," "Tattletales," and "The Newlywed Game," to name a few other game shows.
You're very good at "this stuff", Ramjet,
Would that Mr. Five Hours Before I Get to Saddleback...aka the McCain Campaign had hired YOU...
After a year campaigning for the White House Lord Obama should be prepared for all types of questions and blaming his poor showing because McCain “cheated” is just sour grapes pure and simple.
By the way, I think we have a new dingable phrase: Written in crayon! [ding!]
Cee, what do you mean by the "integrity of the Secret Service"?
That was part of Rick Warren's quote at HOTLINE ON CALL (J$ linked it on his site).....
http://tinyurl.com/6g749c
"Warren, on speculation John McCain heard the questions beforehand: 'It's a totally bogus issue. It's challenging the integrity of the Secret Service, challenging the integrity of my security staff, and challenging the integrity of John McCain of which both Barack [Obama] and John agreed to the terms right up front. There's no way he could have heard the questions. The fact is that John McCain did get there a little late, and the truth is, I actually got to tell Barack Obama about one of the questions in advance that I didn't get to tell John McCain about because he wasn't there.'"
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The good pastor, (who did a fine job getting both candidates to answer difficult, personal questions) feels it was important to defend not only McCain's honesty, but that of his own organization and even The Secret Service...He, for his own reasons decided to do it and that is in itself interesting.
Olbermann chose to defend someone else....Andrea Mitchell who did not deserve the excuses...The editorial choice was wrong and she did not challenge the rumor aspect of it all....once again NBC NEWS shows its decline in journalistic standards.
Well, that's a good answer, Cee, but frankly the McCain Campaign should have remembered that the "silence" of the Secret Service, was challenged during the Clinton impeachment hearings.
I see that KO's girl Friday Rachel Maddow is going to to replace Dan Abrams..so now well have basicly two full hours of Countdown...KO pushed for this and got it first he gets rid of Tucker and now Abrams..I wonder whose next on KO's attempt to fully control MSNBC?..Chrissy watch your back ol'KO might be eyeing your 7pm spot. LOL!!! New Murrow indeed.
MLOng - maybe his gf will get a show also.