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After listening to this, I went and watching the full Komment. I wanted to punch the monitor when it was over.
But NBC and GE loooooove this man. They giggle and clap like little kids when they see and hear him. They nod in agreement and shout "Amen!" We can plea all we want for his canning and The Cable Gamer can predict his imminent departure all she wants, but Keith Olbermann will be our worst nightmare for years to come. And there isn't a damn thing any of us can do about it.
And since *I'm* the one who said this, a certain someone will swoop right in, per their marching orders, and tear me to shreds, making fun of my interests, appreciation for a top-rated cable news channel, and supposed far-right ideology.
...*watched* the full Komment.
Gibsons right though, if Bathtub Boy gets fired that's the last we'll see of him. No one in their right mind would hire him after this 9/11 mess he purposely created.
In all it just shows how crazy he is, how his mind operates. I'm beginning to think Bathtub Boiy has some serious mental issues.
...childish, squealing, braying, Tourette's-like repetition of bashing
a. O'Reilly
b. FoxNews
c. Mister Bush
d. Mister McCain
edr-olbermann, i need to ask. do you think that olbermann is fair and balanced? if so, please explain how you came to that conclusion. is bill-o fair? careful now, your answer will go to your credibility. we wouldnt want to have to dismiss you as an idiot troll merely looking to agitate. i think i know what your answer will be, but we will give you the opportunity to tell us what we are missing. please enlighten us how someone who never has dissenting views on his program is fair...... well,,,,, we're waiting.
Olbermann is a real life cartoon. Is some executive at NBC deliberately keeping Olbermann on the air for the twisted pleasure of seeing this soap opera/train wreck called countdown?
Didn't want to get hammered on this before so I didn't comment earlier, (because many here are hard right in their views, and I respect that, even though it gets a little contentious sometimes), but I too was angry that the RNC used footage of 9/11 within the context of a political event. It was wrong. It IS different when this footage is shown on the History channel or a PBS documentary, or even a memorial or church service in context of a tribute, but to use that footage during a political event, (especially one as charged-up as a convention), was low and completely inappropriate. Considering President Bush has had numerous private conversations/meetings with the families of 9/11 victims (as well as 9/11 survivors), and was in an extremely close political battle in 2004, and did NOT allow his own RNC political event to stoop to such a level, speaks volumes about him as a President and person, (as well as John McCain as perennial presidential campaigner, btw).
Olbermann's special comment has only muddied the waters on this point. I agree with the reaction of many here (and Gibson) because Olbermann question's others "authenticity of their grief, etc" and therefore he IS a hypocrite. The fact that his own profit-driven station gave “tribute” by showing the 9/11 footage in “real time” truly bordered on gratuitous. In my opinion, while watching the memorial on CNN, it was more powerful to see the daughter of pastry chef talk about how she’ll never have bread with her father again, than any demonstration of how ‘honorably’ Katie, Matt, Andrea, etc., handled their ‘journalistic’ duties that day.
Getting back to what I think is my point; it’s not always about “honor” or how one “acted”---maybe 9/11 Tributes should be about empathy, deep heartfelt empathy for the families who will never see their loved ones again. Perhaps we as humans should honor that and honor them with these tributes appropriately, like within a memorial service, not a political convention.
By KO-a-go-go on September 12, 2008 3:59 PM
Thanks for sharing your views. It is a welcome change from the daily fare. Please, keep it coming.
First off, though not related to your point, perhaps you should have held back your opinion that by making a reasoned, well thought out comment, you risked getting hammered by contentious, hard right posters, untill someone brought out their hammer:-)
Political conventions, IMO, are primarily displays of patriotism, pride in country and flag waving, regardless of party. I could be mistaken, but I did not detect any partisanship in the 9-11 tribute.
I would ask, that you take another look at the episode to see if it's reasonable to conclude that there was no sinister, no ulterior, no deceptive motive involved, nor any intention to be disrespectful.
Politics are politics, but that doesn't mean everything that is done at a political convention is meant to draw a distinction between the two parties.
Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar.
i ve not hailed fox news as anything my friend. you seemingly come on here to defend the indefensible. if you know that olbermann is not fair, then why have you on EVERY occaision defended his idiocy in this forum? we can go to the archives and see where you dont ever disagree with that coward, therefore my point is you simply come on here and react. you have nothing of any substance, you just throw bombs and wait to react to the reaction. sounds alot like your douche bag namesake doesnt it? you are quite simply, a mental midget. dont be discouraged by the limited capacity to reason, think and verbalize. we will be easy on you. go upstairs now, your oodles of noodles are ready.
kind of like you're up olbermann's ass
like i said, be easy on him folks. his reasoning ability is limited. its ok ed r olby, coward can be your cronkite. oh by the way, cronkite also undermined our troops. so youre right they are alot alike. hey go on over to ace of spades headquarters theyd love to hear from you. theyll be easy on you like us. oh, and we wont let that mean j$ hurt your feelings.
kinda like keith olbermann does?
damn! yall be gentle. see how easy it is with this guy?
im dating your mom.
fox news has two sides to almost every argument. they hear both sides unlike KO...he never has an opposing viewpoint on his show
she's not dead. she just isnt ready to resart a reletionship with you.
c'mon...hannity and colmes, o'reilly always has another side on...albeit to usually yell at them, but at least they have a point. i can tell that by just using a line like that you have no logical answer dude...admit you just like hearing your side over and over without any opposition
EdwardROlberman, I think you missed the point. I only mentioned 'CNN' because I just happened to catch that moment on that channel. For all I know, FOX & C-Span could have shown the woman speaking about her father at the 9/11 memorial as well. I think the irony of Olbermann's special comment, is the very next day, MSNBC pretty much did the very same thing he was ranting against the RNC for doing.
“First off, though not related to your point, perhaps you should have held back your opinion that by making a reasoned, well thought out comment, you risked getting hammered by contentious, hard right posters, untill someone brought out their hammer:-)” By ramjet on September 12, 2008 4:38 PM
Point well taken, ramjet, my apologies. :-)
As for the 9/11 Tribute video, I do not have any objections to the video tribute itself and did not find it partisan in any way. But for me, showing it during a political convention, in that context, can make it partisan, at the very least, perceived as partisan. I agree with you, in that political conventions do & should contain the components of pride, patriotism, flag waving, but the Republican National Convention (just as the DNC) is primarily there to nominate their candidates, tell the story of their candidate, set an ideological & political platform, rally the base, etc. I think it’s difficult to have ideological/political televised displays (for ex: ‘drill, baby, drill!) with a 9/11 tribute depicting intense human tragedy, under the same umbrella. I just felt a memorial setting is more appropriate occasion for a 9/11 Tribute verses a political setting. BTW, I do appreciate your ‘non-hammering’ thoughtful response, ramjet. :-)
KO-a-go-go,
I disagree with you but I get your point. Some people may have thought it inappropriate in a political setting, but I really think most Americans probably viewed it for what it was intended to be: a tribute to the fallen of 9/11. In any case, Olbermann's on-air meltdown was unprofessional and inappropriate, which is, of course, why he got fired from his anchor job and is now just doing his little cable show "Countdown to No Ratings."
my apologies. :-)
BTW, I do appreciate your ‘non-hammering’ thoughtful response, ramjet. :-)By KO-a-go-go on September 12, 2008 7:17 PM
Cool.
No apology necessary, and I'm glad you took my "suggestion" as it was intended.
Now that we've got all that stuff worked out, what do you say we all get "hammered!"
KO-a-go-go, I think that the 9/11 tribute at the Repub convention was very tastefully and respectfully done. The unending mantra describing it as "graphic" is simply untrue. The only "graphic" videos of 9/11 that I have seen have been on the History Channel.
I also think it was appropriate in a political sense b/c it does illustrate a fundamental difference between the two major parties. The Dems view our battle with Islamic Terrorism much as they viewed it prior to 9/11: as crimes to be handled primarily by our judicial system. The Dems also believe that the Repub's approach to it is more fear mongering than necessary national defense. Two very opposing views.
I was not surprised that the Dems did not highlight it. In fact they barely acknowledged the sea change it caused. I was also not surprised that the Repubs did highlight it and it was more front and center at their convention.
We may disagree on the appropriateness of the Tribute but we definitely agree that KO and MSNBC were completely out of line. I think that they are the ones who deliberately misused 9/11 here.
I'll bring the Absolut if you guys bring the olives and toothpicks!
By Grammie on September 13, 2008 4:42 AM
Gwammy,
Have you wecovewd fwom yuwr cwose encounteh wit da moonbat cawyewr?
Ramjet, thanks for inquiring!
I am bravely soldiering on and expect to eventually recover completely. Elmer Fudd is toxic but totally ineffective.
By Grammie on September 13, 2008 4:42 AM
I'll bring the Absolut if you guys bring the olives and toothpicks!
Absolutely!