While I called Rick Davis an oracle (like I don't want to be in pessimistically predicting the Phillies will win the World Series), Keith merely said: "Maybe, just maybe McCain Campaign Manager Rick Davis was right when he said..."

Well so far his Kampaign Komments have been...

McCain Campaign-2

Obama Campaign-0

So really will any of us be surprised if Obama gets one in before election night? Probably should've have called them "McKampaign Komment" of the night.

A komment on Palin's kampaign?
Like McKomments on John McCain?
Another attack
(MS)NBC's hack
Cable TV for the insane

Was Biden's prediction of a foreign policy crisis test for The Anointed One still a muted mongrel on The Hour of Spin?.....

I would not be surprised if Olbermann chose to not cover it, again.

The press in general is not asking any logical follow-up questions regarding Grandpa Biden's prediction and very telling historical connection to JFK....Remember that Kennedy's failed foreign policy initiatives in the beginning of his administration brought us to the closest we had been or ever would be to nuclear war....and that was with a NATION, a recognized GOVERNMENT, nevermind that many of our enemies today are radical terrorists with basically nothing to lose.

This cartoon is apt:

http://tinyurl.com/6bmy5x

VERO POSSUMUS!

"Was Biden's prediction of a foreign policy crisis test for The Anointed One still a muted mongrel on The Hour of Spin?....." cee

Of course not..KO like the rest of MSNBC is covering for Biden on that one..they won't play the actual clip but a milder one to down-play the remark....or just flat out lie about what he said. New Murrow indeed.

Wild guess, the Kampaign Komments will be 10-nil McCain-Palin. Or to put it another way, McCain-Palin 10, Obama-Biden just watching.

And just so those of you that didn't see the KK know what happened, indignation and outrage wasn't on display...for once. It was a lot of snark, sarcasm, patronization, and partisan yuks; lampooning, even.

...*weren't* on display...

A muted mongrel prediction for tonight....SNOBamessiah covering for dear ol' Grandpa Biden:

"Joe sometimes engages in some rhetorical flourishes. But I think his core point was that the next administration is going to be tested. The next administration is going to inherit a whole host of really big problems."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/obama-dismisses.html

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Sure SNOBamessiah....rhetorical flourishes like when Biden later told the supporters to "gird their loins?"

"Gird your loins?"

And The One's attempt to expand Biden's words to include any next administration is very dishonest....Biden's advice to the audience was, "gird your loins" because Barack Obama is going to face "an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."
This Mensa wannabe mentions Obama specifically and he even went on to compare him to JFK which shows, once again, how ignoraant he is. JFK basically MADE his own trouble, trouble for Berliners and near catastrophe by meeting with Khrushchev in Vienna without "preconditions,"

"Kennedy's aides convinced the press at the time that behind closed doors the president was performing well, but American diplomats in attendance, including the ambassador to the Soviet Union, later said they were shocked that Kennedy had taken so much abuse. Paul Nitze, the assistant secretary of defense, said the meeting was 'just a disaster.' Khrushchev's aide, after the first day, said the American president seemed 'very inexperienced, even immature.' Khrushchev agreed, noting that the youthful Kennedy was 'too intelligent and too weak.' The Soviet leader left Vienna elated -- and with a very low opinion of the leader of the free world.

"Kennedy's assessment of his own performance was no less severe. Only a few minutes after parting with Khrushchev, Kennedy, a World War II veteran, told James Reston of The New York Times that the summit meeting had been the 'roughest thing in my life.' Kennedy went on: 'He just beat the hell out of me. I've got a terrible problem if he thinks I'm inexperienced and have no guts. Until we remove those ideas we won't get anywhere with him.'

"A little more than two months later, Khrushchev gave the go-ahead to begin erecting what would become the Berlin Wall. Kennedy had resigned himself to it, telling his aides in private that 'a wall is a hell of a lot better than a war.' The following spring, Khrushchev made plans to 'throw a hedgehog at Uncle Sam's pants': nuclear missiles in Cuba. And while there were many factors that led to the missile crisis, it is no exaggeration to say that the impression Khrushchev formed at Vienna -- of Kennedy as ineffective -- was among them"

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/05/obama_should_rethink_jfkkrusch.html

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Once again, the difference in coverage of Palin and Biden is striking. Also, the lack of press coverage of the Biden mistake in comparing an inexperienced Obama to JFK is yet another example of how superficial and biased this election coverage has devolved into. If Palin had said something even close to inane as what Biden spewed, Olbermann would be claiming "fear mongering" and chastise 'Cuda for trying to scare Americans to vote for McCain, all with incorrect information and flawed historical analysis.

Biden gets off with excuses and basic silence from the leftwing enablers.

Also, Obama's severe lack of experience in foreign affairs and his poor showing during the Georgian crisis is not reassurring.

If America pulls the rip cord for Obama, Carter II will be fun to run against in 2010 and 2012. Elections have consequences.

And there will only be Republicans like Colin Powell and former Rep. Mark Foley applicable for derision in their display of poor judgement.

VERO POSSUMUS!

Test. After a major password snafu, it looks like I'm back, able to comment on my favorite site after many weeks. Test.

Welcome back, Dan. (For the rest of you, Trickletown used to be Observer Dan.)

Last night, Keith's Komment pimping paid off. He won in the 25-54 demo 935,000 to 742,000. This is karma for my snarking of "What a ratings grabber last night's Komment was." That'll teach me not to do that again. And to answer your question, Bathman, my face is red because my guy lost to you. (After a demo win earlier this year, Keith gleefully snarked: "Uh, Bill, why is your face red?")

It gets worse. Maddow beat "LKL" *and* "H&C" in the demo. FNC still won among total viewers, but it was a youngster pwning ("poe-ning") by team MSNBC. God help us.

Why is that "worse", Mike c?

Cee: "Elections have consequences."

Rarely do you ever say anything that I agree with...but you nailed that one. However, your implied context in making that remark is totally off base.

We are feeling the "consequences" of electing Bush and his merry band of enablers as we speak:...... Some are prdicting another great depression......we are bogged down in two wars......the national debt is at a record level......and the continuing budget deficits keep on adding to it.

So now we now we are at the end ot the Bush presidency saddled with 2 wars, a possible depression, and an insolvent government.

Mike C......The republicans are NOT the good guys!

Mike,

Tell us now, before the fact.

What number must the budget deficit be under, above which you will judge Obama a failure?

What must happen in Iraq and Afghanistan, or you will judge Obama a failure?

Notice that MikeH has no explaination on how Obama's stated plans will....

1) Stop another great depression

2) Reduce the national debt

3) Stop deficit spending

In fact, Obama's disciples in The House are saying that deficit spending will continue for the future as programs are expanded and programs increased.

His trillion dollar tax scheme is in addition to his trillion dollars in new spending is in addition to the one trillion bail-out package is in addition to another possible stimulus package Grandpa Biden is pushing is in addtion to the lower tax revenues that will result after Obama raises taxes, especially the capital gains taxes is in addition to the lower economic activity that will occur as companies pull out of the American labor market because of increased taxes is in addition to the higher unemployment rates and lower income tax revenues as companies leave......

MikeH also fails to mention that we are not bogged down in Iraq. Victory is at hand and the democratically elected government is ready to come to an agreement for a final US withdrawl....three years late for Obama who wanted the troops out in 2006, in defeat and leaving the country to the Al Queda terrorists and Iranian backed Shia extremists....

but that lack of vision and courage is overlooked by the church of SNOBamessiah zombies.

Perhaps Obama will screw up Iraq anyway and history will mark the savior as the man who decided defeat was more important to him than millions of people living in freedom.

VERO POSSUMUS!

MikeH lies, "we are bogged down in two wars..."

U.S. hands "triangle of death" to Iraqi troops

http://tinyurl.com/6p7mwh

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to be "bogged" – verb (used without object) 3. to sink in or as if in a bog (often fol. by down): We were bogged down by overwork.

Yep....sure looks like The US is bogged down in Iraq....

and the sky is pink......

The church of SNOBamessiah.....to hell with reality!

Oh, and the great progress our allies in Iraq are making, despite what Obama and the rest of the anti-America left predicted back in 2006, will be a muted mongrel tonight on Olbermann's hour of propaganda....

Obama and the left would had preferred the triangle of death continue to be a place of despair and death for no other good reason than their own political purposes....

Oh, the leadership....oh, the honor.....

Yeppers, look at that bogging down! Whoa!

VERO POSSUMUS!

Another muted mongrel prediction for tonight......Obama supporters acting brutally (as opposed to reporters claiming they hear 'Kill Him' at events when nobody else does).....

"Police: McCain Worker Mugged, Attacked

"'Oh you're with McCain, you're with the McCain campaign? I'm going to teach you a lesson.'

"After repeatedly hitting, kicking and threatening the woman, the McCain camp says the suspect carved a 'B' in her cheek for 'Barack' Obama.

"According to the police report, the officer confirmed that he 'observed the wound on the right side of [her] face.'"

http://tinyurl.com/5oty2g

The picture: http://tinyurl.com/6qamjq

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What a political statement. Is it now fair game to generalize about Obama supporters based on this CRIME like Barack Obama did at the last debate based on the uncoroborated story of a reporter at a McCain/Palin rally?

Fear, intimidation, now violence.....Where did the person who committed this crime find his motivation to carve the "B" in fellow human being's face?

Hey Cee, just wait and watch some olby ELITE come along and disclaim what happened to this woman.
This morning on the morning drive into Cincinnati, they were talking about how the Obama crowd was going to riot if McCain wins!!!!

I have the champagne on ice.

Cee: "Obama and the rest of the anti-America left"

Congreeswoman Bachman has just been rebuked by YOUR party for suggesting who might be "anti-American", and who isn't. She may even have gauranteed her own defeat. Her stupid remarks certainly has increased her opponants coffers by about $1,000,000.

Cee, this is what we call a BACKLASH!.......Many of us have gotten damned tired of demogogues like yourself suggesting that those that disagree with you are unpatriotic. We established long ago that you never bothered to serve your country, yet you insist on continuing to suggest that people who have shown far more patriotism than you have ever shown somehow lack patriotism.

That said, the things Mrs. Bachman has been rebuked for saying are quite mild compared to some of the things you've posted on this blog..

After this historic election is over Cee, maybe, just maybe, it will finally occur to you that the words and actions of extreme reich wing nationalist faux patriots like yourself is one of the primary reasons that Washington Republicans will have become an endangered species!

MikeH, it is called free speech and as AMERICAN as apple pie.

Just like Congressman Lewis' suggestion (your word) that the honorable John McCain was a modern day Geroge Wallace is protected by The US Constitution....

Just like Senator Dick Durbin's suggestion (your word) that our honorable men and women serving at GITMO were the moral equivalent to Nazis or Soviet gulag guards having no regard for their fellow human beings is protected by The US Constitution....

Just like Barack Obama's suggestion (your word) that his political opponents will act as racists to thwart his run for The White House, whether they be his fellow Democratic Party opponents or Republicans, is protected by The US Constitution....

Just like Mr. Obama's spiritual advisor, Reverand Wright's suggestion (your word) that The United States of America was a racist country and that the events of 9/11/01 were simply a result of the country's bad behavior and deserved is protected by The US Constitution....

I find no reason to worry about my reaction to your threat of political anihilation for stating the obvious when your ideological fellows have stated more demogogic and inflammatory things and seem to presently thrive politically.

I am more concerned of your and your fellows selective anger over someone arguing someone does not have the country's best interests in mind (patritoism ie "pro-america") in their radical political ideology and personal beliefs while being more than happy to call people liars, racists or Nazis (your attempt with the misapplied and historically incorrect, "reich wing")....

The hypocrisy oozes from you once again, MikeH. "Anti-America" is a correct and arguable adjective for the rhetoric and behavior of Obama's allies, and himself, during the debate over Iraq from 2004 onward. It was in America's best interests to have an Iraq that was stable, our ally and not supportive of Al Queda and Iranian backed Shiite terrorists. Obama and the democrats chose to abandon that pro-American policy for a policy that was against our nation's best interests. Obama, Reid, Durbin, Clinton and the rest of this group lost that debate in 2006 and the surge went ahead without their support.

That was my argument above. The surge was a pro-American policy, and the opposition to it was an anti-American position. It is my opinion and I am entitiled to it. Just as you are entitled to your opinion.

Faith in American goodness is true patriotism. The surge was a test to see who believed that Iraq's future was connected to American interests. The debate on this board testifies to my reasons behind supporting the surge 100%, your reasons for opposing it have been shown to be incorrect, as has Obama's and THAT WAS THE SUBJECT OF THE ABOVE POST, THE TRIANGLE OF DEATH IS NO LONGER A HOTBED OF TERRORIST ACTIVITY THANKS, IN LARGE PART, TO A PRO-AMERICAN POLICY INSITUTED IN 2006 BY GEORGE BUSH....The surge was predicted to fail by Obama and that lack of faith in American goodness and effectiveness is a very telling sign of what a President Obama would destroy.

The same voices, like Bill Ayers, that sought alliance with the radical leftists in North Vietnam are part of the anti-American left....it is fact. Those same voices characterized America's commitment to democracy and freedom in Iraq the same exact way back in 2004-2006, and Obama, you and many others decided to join them in their demogoguery. I am sorry, but people like Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and those that enable their ideology to be presentend as viable alternatives on the national stage are not pro-America, they are anti-America...Read their words, look at their behavior and tell me that
they are not pro-America....Could you call what Bill Ayers has done as patriotic?

That is the totality of my point. Your attempt at intimidating me to not judge people's ideology, speech and/or behavior as patriotic is as anti-American as trying to intimidate someone to not speak or act under threat....You need to do some self-examination and see the road you and the church of SNOBamessiah is on regarding tolerance and acceptance of differences of opinion.

Oh and whether this is all historic or not will be judged in the future. If Obama does attain the Presidency and fails to protect our nation from economic and military defeat like President Carter or President Johnson I can assure you that this has all been for nothing. Symbolism of an African-American President does not put food on my table, keep my family safe, insure America's interests are protected or keep the left from further eroding our constitutional system that has withstood 200 years.....I do not care what the gender, race, creed or whatever superficial label you choose, the chief executive is....I look at the resume, ideology and character of the person and Barack Obama is an inexperienced radical leftist who, only up until recently, has displayed and supported far left ideology and associated with such adherants. His tendency to use race, engage in faux religious imagery and emotionalism also concerns me. He has displayed severe arrogance and hubris during his short time on the national stage. And his poor judgement in 2006 in (at best) pursuing a politically expedient agenda or in (at worst) pursuing an obvious anti-American foreign policy agenda with regards to the conclusion of the Iraq War is a blatant disqualifier. If Obama chooses such policies in the future, I will gladly call it anti-American because the best interests of our country should always be pursued by our public officials. Period.

Patriotism is quantifiable....do not weaken it's power by saying it is off limits in debate or judgement. Taking a personal risk for supporting one's country's best interests, whether it is on the battlefield or it is on the Senate floor debating supporting a policy in 2006, is a arguable and supportable position and I would be glad to debate you anyday regarding it.....

Let's have at it, substantively.

Oh and MikeH....I forgot....you said our country was bogged down in Iraq. With your silence regarding my cogent dismissal of that lie can I assume you are admitting you were wrong in claiming we are bogged down in two wars?

With so much you neglected to address including your tax demogoguery, it seems I am, as usual, point by point dismantling your rationales and defense of your messiah, The anointed SNOBamessiah....

You better work on your evanglestic techniques. If Obama is elected President, Grandpa Biden implored the faithful to be prepared to continue in the faith and convert as many of us as possible!

VERO POSSUMUS!

Cee:

- YOU earned the "Reich Wing" characterization with your own dispicable rhetoric. If you didn't have a history of implying those that disagree with you were traitors, then I would have never labeled you that way. I have no appologies for fighting fire with fire.

- Regarding taxes, YOU are the one who has an unfortunate personal history of doing things like labeling indesputable and FACTUAL tax information as "tax demogoguey". YOU are the one who has a personal history of posting outright lies about taxation. And then YOU are the one who reacted childishly and defensive when you were caught with your hand in the cookie jar. Any honorable man would have simply admitted their mistake and moved on.

- As for the war, Yes Cee, we ARE very much "bogged down in iraq" as long as we have 150,000 troops and an even number of contractors......who cannot leave yet according to your own merry band of neocons for fear of losing everything we have 'gained'. . If we were NOT "bogged down", then we could take them out without the dire consequences your own crowd predicts.

- Contrary to your weak minded arguments, patriotism is NOT debatable between reasonable Americans, ..... because no one, least of all YOU, owns any monopoly on it's definition. Simply because YOU believe one course of action is better for your country doesn't make it so...nor does it make it patriotic.

- YOU have a personal history of confusing nationalism with patriotism. And this is just another area where the "reich wing" characterization fits you quite nicely.

- Your habit of continuing to use "the surge" as a crutch is yet another indication of the vapidity of your nationalistic based belief system that you keep confusing with patiotism. Everyone with a head on their shouldiers knows that while the adding of the additional troops and changing the stategy clearly played a major factor in the turrng things around, it was far from the ONLY factor....and it is arguable that it wasn't even the most important factor. You can't prove it was any more than you could prove that starting an asprin regimine actually prevented someone from having another heart attack........The more you and yours rely on repetitive arguments like that one, the more it becomes apparent how few fresh ideas you actually have.

- You can continue to chose to make "the surge" the centerpiece of your Iraq argument if you want to, but my own Iraq arrgument is, and always has been that we should have never gone in there in the first place,.....and you will loose any such an comparison of historical mistakes each and EVERY time.

- Also, "what Bill Ayers has done" is NOT the point, and never was. Anything he might have done or didn't do is immaterial to this argument. As for your "patriotism" test concerning Ayers, I have never characterized this individual, whom we are ONLY talking about in order to try to smear someone else who happened to know him, as meeting any test of 'reasonableness' for patriotism.....But to attempt to smear ANOTHER person for what someone else did when the first person was a mere 8 years old is even further beyond any test of what is "reasonable". It is a SMEAR...and it is NOTHING more than a smear.....and fortunately, it appears to have backfired.

Finally, I could choose to call YOU "anti-American" and "unpatriotic" for rabidly supporting a foreign adventure that you cannot make a single rational argument as to how it has advanced our own national security ( but I can make several very good ones supporting why it hasn't). Patriotiem is NEVER defined by the status quo of the time, but nationalism almost always is.....

.......And nationalism is not always a good thing....just ask the Germans!

Sorry Cee that you had to entice MikeH.
Man, what a bunch of Hoo eee.
I especially liked the one where he stated that "patriotism is NOT debatable between reasonable Americans".
Who made him the king?
Come on, fess up, is this Keith Olbermann?

"I especially liked the one where he stated that "patriotism is NOT debatable between reasonable Americans. Who made him the king?"

Wrong question!......You see, I'm not the one questioning the patriotism of other Americans.