I wonder if this "crosshair" stuff is some of the stuff MKDAWUSS wants people to take "responsibility" for.

I forgot, MKDAWUSS wasn't serious about that. Because the first place to start would be with Olbermann. And I'm sure Markos (via Olbermann) already gave the Kossacks their marching orders on this one.

-This is the second day since MKDAWUSS called for for someone to take "responsibility" for the "media-political climate" that has been created.

-This is the second day since MKDAWUSS said "maybe" when asked if Olbermann should distance himself from the title of his book 63 minutes after he called for someone to take some "responsibility" for the "media-political climate" that has been created.

-This is the second day since MKDAWUSS claimed that Keith Olbermann, the Daily Kos and Media Matters for America are "credible" and "honest" sources.

-This is the second day since MKDAWUSS failed to name five conservatives blaming liberals for the Tuscon massacre.

-This is the second day since MKDAWUSS told me BoyBlue apologized 54 minutes after he said the left "wasn't buying" the condolences of Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann.

-This is the second day since MKDAWUSS said he wasn't sure if Loughner's massacre was "politically motivated".

-This is the twentieth day since MKDAWUSS ignored Johnny Dollar's post concerning Olbermann's lie about Bill O'Reilly stealing someone's seat.

-This is the twentieth day since MKDAWUSS ignored Johnny Dollar's comments concerning Olbermann's lie about NBC's football ratings.

-This is twenty-sixth day since MKDAWUSS failed to acknowledge Keith Olbermann's comments and cowardice regarding the Assange rape case and subsequent Twitter ban issue.

-This is the twenty-sixth day since MKDAWUSS failed to bring up a legitimate criticism of Bristol Palin.

-This is the twenty-seventh day since MKDAWUSS accused the regulars of Olbermann Watch of trashing Mr. Olbermann the father without evidence.

-This is the twenty-seventh day since MKDAWUSS accused the regulars of Olbermann Watch of trashing Mrs. Olbermann without evidence.

-This is the thirtieth day since MKDAWUSS failed to explain how this:

http://mediamatters.org/research/201012090001

is an example of Glenn Beck using a "stupid Nazi comparison". And no MKDAWUSS, keywording "Nazi" and throwing in your opinion of context is not an explanation.

-This is the thirty-second day since MKDAWUSS insinuated that "Pitchforks and Torches" is a better seller than conservative books because there were no copies of it available at his bookstore.

-This is the thirty-sixth day since MKDAWUSS accused the members of Olbermann Watch of "dodging questions".

It occurred to me last night that not so long ago Olbermann’s fans supposedly demanded he bring back the worst. person. in. the. WORLD segment (in which he plays Toccata and Fugue in D minor--the single most clichéd of creepy, evil music--and completely trashes people while showing hideous and sometimes photoshopped images of them) after having retired the segment in response to John Stewart’s Return To Sanity rally. They DEMANDED such heated and juvenile rhetoric return to the show.

Take from that what you will, though I think my implications are clear.

Here is something from Olby's favorite mashed up bag of meat with lipstick, the Lovely Michelle Malkin. No words.

http://i.azcentral.com/commphotos/view/442818.jpg

Haven't the democrats learned anything from the Paul Wellstone Pep Rally?

Can anyone explain to me why Sarah Palin released that video statement today?

This is legit criticism. She has no constituency. She has no position of authority in the GOP that I am aware of. And she certainly doesn't have to answer to the asswipes who accused her of accessory to murder.

I hate using the phrase "media whore", but nothing more fitting comes to mind.

I believe this is the part where Palin apologists rail on me and MKDAWUSS tells all his KOS buddies how "unhinged" we are.

"Take from that what you will, though I think my implications are clear."

I don't think they are.

What you're saying is that the segment known for its juvenile and heated rhetoric was returned per the request of the viewers?

Well, I don't think that's true. I thought it was just a bullsh*t publicity stunt masked as a fan poll.

But, as MKDAWUSS likes to point out, I don't have any proof otherwise so I guess that makes him and his fellow Olbermann viewers who are blaming violent rhetoric on this shooting a bunch of hypocrites.

Either way, Olbermann has already cast his fans as a bunch of haters who revel in the demonetization of others. In other words, Olbermann's appeal is that he uses inflamed rhetoric. Obviously, we all knew this long ago.

"And she certainly doesn't have to answer to the asswipes who accused her of accessory to murder."

Congresswoman Giffords is miraculously still alive (despite The False Murrow's ASSertion of AZ Gov. Brewer's Death Panels). Judge Roll (R) is dead. Yet, Junk Ugyar said today in his "Daily Rant" (or Daily dose of progressive vitriol) on Dylan RATigan's show "A Democrat was shot. A Democrat didn't pull the trigger".

He still wants to blame conservatives for the shooting. Notice how he leaves out the important part of the story that the shooter didn't watch tv, or listen to talk radio.

Also, whenever I see the mugshot of Jared Loughner I think he looks like Uncle Fester.

DJ, more and more, I get the feeling that this is going to be another Wellstone pep rally. And it will be just as effective as the Wellstone pep rally.

"Notice how he leaves out the important part of the story that the shooter didn't watch tv, or listen to talk radio."

You see, I have a hard time believing that. I really do.

But what I learned from Liberal Media 101 class is that it doesn't matter if it's true or not. Which is why I went to TVNewser today to throw it in the faces of all those Libtards (which is what they are).

All I needed to see via split screen on M.S.S.R. was a tiny box of Jan Brewer speaking, and a LARGE box with Obama right next to her. That was all I needed to see of this circus. I am now going to watch something that brings me back to my childhood days: The Dukes of Hazard on CMT

Again, Ms. Malkin who is live tweeting the event (I'm not watching). Just tweeted this.

@michellemalkin Michelle Malkin
Fans screamed "WE LOVE YOU!" as Obama took memorial podium. #optics #2getherwethrive

WTF? Yeah, never mind that 6 are dead, as long as you get a shout out to the celebrity in cheif!!

Wellstone 2.0!

Fat Ass on at 11? Sorry, got to wake up for 4:30 am for dialysis in the morning. So, no Abstract tonight.

Syvyn beat me to it but I have say it anyway, what is wrong with these people? They are at a memorial for six dead and they are acting like it's a highschool pep-rally. Is this how Obama supporters really want to portray themselves? Disgusting.

To cjflan32, I think Sarah Palin was correct in what she did. She waited five days before making a statement, five days in which she was attacked non-stop by everyone from bloggers to reporters to politicians who claimed she carried some responsibility for what happened. To try to take the "moral highground", so to speak, and ignore it would have been folly.

As for a constituency, I think most people see her as a lead figure in the Tea Party movement. Therefore I think she has a legitimate reason to adress this situation on their behalf.

It is pure fodder for the ANALysts in the media to begin fawning all over each other on how SuperObama swoops in and saved the world from those dastardly republicans.

@michellemalkin Michelle Malkin
Fans screamed "WE LOVE YOU!" as Obama took memorial podium. #optics #2getherwethrive

Was this all that happened? No other Wellstonian moments like "We are going to Organize, Organize, Organize!"

WOW! Sarah Palin can't win for losing! Fat Ass spends the past four days pounding the hell out of Mrs. Palin. She defended herself. And Keithy expects her just to lay down and take it up the ying-yang? Who does he think Sarah is, one of Keith paid whores? YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS KEITH!!!!!

You (and your pals on the left) can't attack people day after day and expect no blow-back.

And King Obama with the announcement that Mrs. Gifford opened her eyes for the first time? That was a little much. Call me a cynic. But don't call me late for dinner.

Sorry cjflan32, I must agree with pewp_head. I think Sarah Palin had every right to defend herself. On Fox, the scroll at the bottom stated that Sarah Palin has been receiving an an unpresidented rate of death threats since Olby and the rest of the clowns at MSNBC have been taking "shots" at her.

I almost fell out of my chair when within minutes of the President stating that the political attacks need to stop, Crazy Larry dove right in and blasted Sarah, and practically devoted his whole show to her.

Would like to hear what the great Olby has to say (not really) but the morning comes early.

Like I said before, it is all fodder for the media. Obama is the Messiah and Palin is the Devil. That makes the media the angry mob from the Salem Witchcraft trials. "Get out your pitchforks and torches"!

If I could speculate for a second here, I am going to take a really wild guess that Crazy Larry's favorite song ever recorded is Back in the U.S.S.R. by The Beatles.

"That makes the media the angry mob from the Salem Witchcraft trials"

Ah, well that would explain why they're always screaming "God is dead!!!"

(see _The Crucible_)

Ah, well that would explain why they're always screaming "God is dead!!!"

Their only God is Obama.

It's really sad that i come to this website after something so tragic and this site is a spitting image of the parroting of the hateful rhetoric and ignorant incitement of violence. The difference between libs and cons is that liberals criticize the ideas of the conservatives while the conservatives attack the very existence of liberals. Enjoy your backwater website with baseless accusations of attacks with not a single shred of evidence to prove your point.

M-Ditty: "...baseless accusations of attacks with not a single shred of evidence to prove your point."

You mean like Keith did Saturday night with his Special Ed Komment?

"To cjflan32, I think Sarah Palin was correct in what she did."

"Sorry cjflan32, I must agree with pewp_head. I think Sarah Palin had every right to defend herself."

Of course she has the right to defend herself. She also has the right to not talk. Or at least hire a publicist that knows what they're doing.

She used the phrase "blood libel" and gave more ammunition to all her detractors. What the f*** did she think was gonna happen? Now all said detractors in the media have another week's worth of Palin bashing. Good call Sarah. You're doing wonders for conservatism in this country.

She's not helping herself or this "rhetoric" issue by saying things like "blood libel" and quite frankly it's hurting (and this is a term I use very loosely) "our" cause.

This is the stuff I was talking about after the election. The GOP and Tea Party need to get on the same page or it's another four years of the celebrity-in-chief.

"Enjoy your backwater website with baseless accusations of attacks with not a single shred of evidence to prove your point."

Look who's trying to come through the back door again.

Last time I checked it was Markos, Paul Krugman and Olbermann who were mouthing off without evidence.

Anything to say about Olbermann using the phrase "crosshairs"? No? I didn't think so hypocrite.

"The difference between libs and cons is that liberals criticize the ideas of the conservatives..."

M-Ditty, what conservative idea was Olbermann criticizing when he called Michelle Malkin a "mashed up meat bag with lipstick"?

Nothing? That's right, you only post when a thread is a week old or when it's late and you think you can get away without being challenged.

You know, I can understand you saying those things to someone in person and running away. But online? Anonymously? That's a special kind of coward.

M-Ditty: "...parroting of the hateful rhetoric and ignorant incitement of violence".

You mean like this from Daily Kos:

"My Congresswoman voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD TO ME!" Or placing a bullseye on Rep. Giffords district in June 2008?

Is that the rhetoric you were speaking of?

Go back into your Mom's basement because you are just as big of a hypocrite as your pal Olby.

Moron

Ed Shultz in speaking of a recovering Dick Cheney: “We ought to rip [his heart] out and kick it around and stuff it back in him."

It's 3:30 in the morning where I am so that's all I can think of at the moment; but please M-Ditty, point to the "hateful rhetoric and ignorant incitement(s) of violence" here. I dare you.

"Of course she has the right to defend herself. She also has the right to not talk. Or at least hire a publicist that knows what they're doing."

cjflan32, It's amazing what a little sleep and reflection can do. Although Sarah has the right to defend herself, you are indead correct. It would have been best to totally ignore the attacks. This is probably the best way to defend against the stupidity of this line of thought from the left. Why even acknowledge this crap? Let's move on to the real issues!

"Of course she has the right to defend herself. She also has the right to not talk. Or at least hire a publicist that knows what they're doing."

I am not an apologist for Sarah Palin. Personally, whenever she is on TV, I change the channel. The honeymoon is over. Time to move on. She has her niche in fundraising and reality TV. Do I think she is a Presidential candidate in 2012? No, I do not. However, she has been the main source of demonization by liberals in the media ever since John McCain picked her for VP in 2008. Ever since that night, all we have heard on TV night after night after night after night for 2-1/2 years is how awful she is by these so called "mainstream" pundits.

She is a citizen of this country and has the right to defend herself from these horrible accusations from the left. For a person that has a segment on his show called PSYCHO TALK dedicated to nothing but conservatives (or basically every single show on M.S.S.R. for that matter) and dismisses his own vile talk is just nonsense and eliminates himself from the political discussion.

This is what m-ditty and wuss do. They stand by the Al Gore philosophy of "THERE IS NO DEBATE" after these same politicians call for debate. They come into this room, say a 1 liner, then leave to get us riled up. They offer no clear, concise solutions, only I am right and there is no more talk after that. I gotta run, but I have a very deep observation about the media's reaction to all of this, and even something that the people at FOX have not discussed. I will elaborate a little later

"It would have been best to totally ignore the attacks."

That I disagree with. If I recall she made a statement on Saturday. That was enough.

A suggestion; there is plenty of comments to be made about Olbermann and his childish nonsense, so just forget about MKDAWUSS. Thirty days since he's done this, or sixteen days since he's done that, etc. It's simply a waste of time. It took me about thirty seconds to figure out MKDAWUSS is just another ignorant liberal, seeking attention. Ignore him (no matter how stupid his comments may be) and he will eventually go away...

I didn't watch Olbermann last night, and I won't watch it tonight. Honestly, I'd rather get punched in the face that subject myself to more than a few minutes of his propaganda, but I'll take one for the team next week and start giving my two cents...

I actually thought the President gave a good speech. And he called out the libtards who used the event to attack their opponents. But I do agree, the screaming college liberals in the crowd were an embarrassment. But like they said on Fox after the speech, don't hold Obama to blame for that. You could tell that Obama was uncomfortable with the cheering.

Did anyone see Crazy Larry's show at 10? Who the hell is that stupid jerk they always have as a guest - some gray haired fuck with coke bottle glasses. He was taking apart Sarah Palin, not 30 minutes after the President said not to use the tragedy to attack others.

As a matter of fact, I noticed that none of the MSNBC haters even as much as mentioned the President's comments about wrongly jumping to conclusions and using the tragedy against political opponents. They must have missed that part of the speech, and you know how it is on Olby planet, if you ignore it, then it didn't happen!

Guests/topics last night:
#5A: Daniel Hernandez.
#5B: House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (by phone).
#5C: The Wolffe Man.
#4: Blood Libel! Giffords' cousin.
#3: Blood Libel! Simon Greer. I'll see your Simon Greer and raise you Alan Dershowitz.
#2: McDermott death threats arrest. No guest.
#1: Gun control legislation rejected. Some professor that wrote a gun control book.

ryder, while I respect your opinion what you want is not gonna happen. At least not from me.

One, it really doesn't take that long to copy and paste that stuff.

Two, this has been going on for at least a year now and killing him with kindness hasn't worked.

Three, MKDAWUSS' accountability post isn't really there for you to read. It's there to remind MKDAWUSS how much of a stupid, lying, ignorant hypocrite he is.

Four, apparently my rules don't work anymore. So now I play by other people's rules. MKDAWUSS loves Olbermann so much he'll have no problem being treated the way Olbermann treats others.

M-Ditty will discover this as well.

Listening to Obama's speech while having to hear the yells and screams in the background for every person that was killed by this madman reminded me of the NBA draft last year: And now for their first pick Washington takes John Wall..."Whooo Hooo!"...and next Sacremento takes Cousins..."YEAH BABY! Yahoooo!"

...What the fuck is wrong with this country?!? Whistling, yelling, screaming,etc...My God I heard more excitement after the naming of the dead than I ever heard with any sporting event. For Christs sake this was a ceremony to honor the DEAD and the seriously injured, and yet these moron's were reacting like all the slaughtered were about to take to the podium and deliver a speech! These people have no shame, and obviously from their reactions could give a shit about the dead or wounded. Sick.

I agree, the President made a great speech, and cannot be blamed for the morons in the audience, but unfortunately that's the party that elected him and it comes with the territory, and he had to suffer the consequences of a mentality that has no conscience.

One of the best speeches he may have ever made, told with (what I felt) a true heartfelt feeling for all concerned, and then it's destroyed by a sick crowd that could care less about what he was saying or to who he was saying it about.

And then, no more than an hour later these same fucking liberal pundits start doing the same thing that the President said should be avoided, and it was all because they TOO never heard what he was saying just like the assholes who attended the ritual because to them it's all about the hate. Always has been, and always will be.

Sad man, really sad. They are all a disgrace to their cause, and if they had any pride at all they should be ashamed of themselves, but alas we all know they have none, so nothing will change, and the ape ruler is the number 1 reason why this country is slowly losing its conscience.

Man, how hard was it to try and listen to this great and soothing speech while in the background it sounded like feeding time at the zoo?

Jesus!

And cjflan, I am surprised that you feel Palin should have ignored the attacks on her over these shootings, as you have the most to say against Wuss on this site. Not that I disagree with you there about going after Wuss, but it does seem kind of funny that you can get so riled up about him...and rightly so...but at the same time think that Palin shouldn't defend herself when she has been *personally* attacked on a national level almost every single day, not to mention being threatened daily with her life without an ounce of evidence by these jerks to support their vicious claims.

I don't know man, but if you really think about it, Wuss is defending an idiot and attacking our viewpoints for sure, but never directly attacked you (I'm NOT defending him here...only making a point), and yet the idea that he does that has you defending your point of view to the extreme (again I fully agree with you and understand), while also stating that Palin should keep her mouth shut doesn't seem right.

I really believe that to not say anything is an admission of guilt which is why I feel you and her are perfectly correct in defending your views at all costs, and also agree that in you listing all the lies Wuss has made is the best thing to do, because to ignore him like somebody suggested above, is like admitting that he's right, as he will never go away, and like the lies brought against Palin they will never go away either, which is why she too should make a stand to defend herself.

I noticed how the media has taken over the discussions of what needs to happen in this country in regards to the shooting. This is what I meant earlier about how FOX has ignored this too. Looking at the facts presented about the shooter AND THE 1 PARTICULAR THING THE MEDIA IS IGNORING WILL NO DOUBT OPEN YOUR EYES TOO!!!!!!!

Liberal Bastiens like M.S.S.R. have changed their narratives to 3 particular topics: Gun Control, banning vitriol, certain forms of speech and symbols that are deemed as hateful, and now the topic was the treatment and housing of the mentally ill. Now, with that being said, what we learned about the shooter was that also he was a HEAVY ABUSER OF MARIJUANA. The media have been talking about Gun Control for years (by the exploitation of such tragedies, but NOT in urban settings). They have always jumped to shut up opposing viewpoints by demonizing someone whom they disagree with or see as a threat. BUT WHY IS THE MEDIA SILENT WHEN IT IT WAS MADE KNOWN THAT THIS LUNATIC WAS A HEAVY POT SMOKER? The media, is all IN FAVOR of legalizing drugs, that's why. George Soros is in favor of open borders and the legalization of ALL DRUGS, and he has many serrogates go on many of the news shows on M.S.S.R. Look at all of the advocacy from the far left on the issue of Medical Marijuana and the outright legalization of all drugs. Believe me, that thought hit me like a Mack Truck when I stepped back and thought about the shooter, his personality, and his psychological problems and what issues the media cherrypicks. If any of these news outlets focus on what I layed out here just now, they may actually bring to light one of the real problems this country has and we can start heading for a solution.

"It's really sad that i come to this website after something so tragic and this site is a spitting image of the parroting of the hateful rhetoric and ignorant incitement of violence."

It is the regurgitation of everything your False Murrow has put out in the open. Fact. Proven. Open for discussion (or denial in your case).

Geez, even Webster's online Thesaurus can't leave Sarah Palin alone:

http://thesaurus.com/

Noel Sheppard, NewsBusters: Olbermann Bashes Timing of Palin's Tucson Remarks Day After Attacking Her Silence on Shootings
Olbypocrisy strikes again.

And if it isn't Olbypocrisy, it's OlbyLogic.

Keith attacked Palin for the timing of her remarks because Keith knew he had to cover the memorial and he would not have time for an hour long, spittle filled, foaming at the mouth, speshul komment directed at Palin.

The sick thing is that this stuff is personal with Keith. Keith hates Palin, period, end of story. Keith hates republicans and wishes that they would no longer inhabit the planet. A one hour prime time cable time slot should not be devoted to Keith's personal problems.

ENOUGH! RESIGN!

--

This is the 462nd day since the current President was awarded the Nobel Peace prize.

First off, to be clear, I don't like Sarah Palin at all. In '08 she solidified my vote for John McCain with her debut but ever since then it's been a downward slide of various issues. She's a clear target (whoops) for the far left media and over two years later she has failed to learn how to play ball with them.

Wolverine, I made it pretty clear that, because Sarah Palin is a private citizen, she has no obligation to respond to that crap. Again, if I recall correctly she issued a statement on Saturday. That should've been the end of it.

But, she decided to interject herself (which is different from someone like Olbermann injecting her) and say something as stupid as "blood libel". Now it's another week of Palin-bashing which puts her in defense mode. AGAIN.

If she wanted to defend herself she should have started calling out "journalists" and commentators by name with evidence instead of throwing out another heated phrase with generalities. That way they would've thought twice about reporting on it or they would have taken it so completely out of context people would start calling THEM out. Commentators like Brent Bozell and Johnny Dollar don't print a single criticism without a source. Palin and others would do well to learn from them.

As for the threats, I do sympathize with her and her family for that. If she thought responding was the right thing to do then I can't argue with that. I can however argue with her message and her message was poor. She is not helping conservatism, the Tea Party or anyone else who opposes the scum who speak for the Democratic Party and the far left media.

As for my harsh criticism of MKDAWUSS, well, we're all sick of him and the only thing that (usually) keeps him away is pointing out his own hypocrisy.

"...Wuss is defending an idiot and attacking our viewpoints for sure, but never directly attacked you..."

Actually, he's accused me of lying more than once, which in my opinion is personal.

But I've already said that doesn't matter. Those who defend Olbermann will be treated as Olbermann treats others, the Golbermann Rule if you will. If they don't like it, then they should stop defending Olbermann.

"The difference between libs and cons is that liberals criticize the ideas of the conservatives while the conservatives attack the very existence of liberals."

Talk about detachment from reality

If anything, Liberals hate conservatives simply BECAUSE conservatives point out what the Liberal ideas actually are.

Liberals say people need universal health care. Conservatives point out what it would take to get that. If the people decide they don't want universal health care, Liberals don't blame their bad policy, they blame the conservatives for telling the people what to expect.

Thus, conservatives need to be contained. And anything that isn't really conservative (Fox News) but simply asks questions falls into the right wing camp too.

Who hates the very existence of whom, again?

"Geez, even Webster's online Thesaurus can't leave Sarah Palin alone"

Dude, I remember when Bernie Goldberg said "The dictionary was written by a liberal." Top five all-time funniest things I've ever heard.

Seriously though djwolf, Sarah Palin is (for some reason) still a hot topic. They're just getting in on the action.

"Wolverine, I made it pretty clear that, because Sarah Palin is a private citizen, she has no obligation to respond to that crap."

She is a public figure, and the media knows they can spew the most vile and disgusting things at her because they know they can get away with it without being sued.

Liberals: The shooter was a nut, who bought a gun and killed people. We need to seriously consider very strict gun control, ban ALL salty language and demonize the people that we "think" should be held responsible.

Reality: This guy was a nut WHO ABUSED DRUGS, bought a gun and killed people. Lets look at all relevent facts before we jump to conclusions. Taking away the 1st and 2nd amendment rights for ALL citizens in this country is Unconstitutional. Leaving out the factor of the Drug issue is not only irresponsible, but dangerous.

"Seriously though djwolf, Sarah Palin is (for some reason) still a hot topic. They're just getting in on the action."

I was on Thesaurus trying to do some constructive re-wording of my resume, not even looking for anything political at that moment. Even in the event of trying to find a better job, liberals everywhere just can't control themselves. Once a compulsive liberal, always a compulsive liberal.

"Talk about detachment from reality"

Have you read some of his blogposts? Click on the little pencil next to his name. He's a real winner.

By the way Mr. Soper, it's probably not the best idea to share a link with your name, an address, e-mail, AIM and a few other select tidbits of personal information with a bunch of people you just trashed and made wild accusations about. The internet can be such an unsavory place.

BTW, another thing I was thinking about......Couldn't the term Birthers be taken both ways? Could it be the people in the media taking a shot at pro-lifers too? Chris Matthews felt the need to insult all of Rush Limbaugh fans as "Full Mooners" the other day. Subliminally he was calling us ASSES. Way to stay classy there, bub.

"By the way Mr. Soper, it's probably not the best idea to share a link with your name, an address, e-mail, AIM and a few other select tidbits of personal information with a bunch of people you just trashed and made wild accusations about. The internet can be such an unsavory place."

Good catch cj. I most certainly would have atleast expected him attempting to have as an alias of Chuck U. Farley with a PO box as an affixed address. After all, isn't that what a good liberal would think of, just like in the good ol' movie PUMP UP THE VOLUME?

"She is a public figure, and the media knows they can spew the most vile and disgusting things at her because they know they can get away with it without being sued."

Yeah, and she keeps giving them reasons to trash her.

She's about as media savvy as, um, someone who is not media savvy.

"Yeah, and she keeps giving them reasons to trash her.
She's about as media savvy as, um, someone who is not media savvy."

Correct, but whether you like it or not she HAS the 1st Amendment right to speak her mind without receiving anyone else's permission, even if you, the media, and all others who "hate her" don't like what she has to say.

Blah blah blah djwolf. What's your point? I never said anything different.

"...she HAS the 1st Amendment right to speak her mind without receiving anyone else's permission..."

She also HAS the right to be criticized for saying something questionable. And I HAVE the right to criticize her for it. And you HAVE the right to start an argument over things I never said.

Obviously you read a Spider-Man comic. Though you don't seem to be doing too much reading today either:

cjflan32:"Can anyone explain to me why Sarah Palin released that video statement today?"

That wasn't me stifling the First Amendment because I don't like her or "hate her" as you inaccurately stated. That was me asking why she said anything at all. And it was justified considering she fed Olbermann and all her other detractors enough material to get them to Monday.

*you never read a Spider-Man comic. My epic fail.

I didn't claim that you, in particular hate her. I said "all others who "hate her" don't like what she has to say" in regards to her right releasing a statement. We also know that if the CEO of GE just so happened to slip on a friggin banana peel, the talking heads on M.S.S.R. would somehow scheme to blame Sarah Palin for that too.

"That wasn't me stifling the First Amendment because I don't like her or "hate her" as you inaccurately stated. That was me asking why she said anything at all. And it was justified considering she fed Olbermann and all her other detractors enough material to get them to Monday."

She has a right to say what she wants, when she wants, how she wants, in whatever venue she wants, and should not have to answer to anyone as to what she does on her own time. Just as we speak openly about the discusting tactics of Keith Olbermann's putdowns.

I don't want to be argumentative with you cj. I am just pointing out that no matter what she does, the media has a problem with it. It is called Palin-derangement syndrome. They don't have Bush to kick around anymore. And to answer your question: No, I don't read Spiderman Comic Books. I prefer to re-read all of the books I had to buy in college. They cost me alot of money, and since the book buyback program in college would give me about 0.015% of what I originally payed for it, I kept them. Plus some of the textbooks on Mass Communications, psychology, and sociology help remind me what it takes these days to be a liberal in the media. My original major was Journalism.

"I don't want to be argumentative with you cj. I am just pointing out that no matter what she does, the media has a problem with it. It is called Palin-derangement syndrome. They don't have Bush to kick around anymore."

And have you noticed the difference between the two? One went away quietly and the other refuses to. I'm sure if George Bush made comments like Palin frequently does, responsible journalists like Olby would be calling him out as well.

"I'm sure if George Bush made comments like Palin frequently does, responsible journalists like Olby would be calling him out as well."

So spouting off about an accused murderer without all the evidence being released is now "responsible journalism"?

I can't wait to hear this explanation.

"I'm sure if George Bush made comments like Palin frequently does, responsible journalists like Olby would be calling him out as well."

Richard Lewis (the comedian turned actor/political activist) used to be a frequent guest on Countdung. He once said to The False Murrow's delight that he hated George Bush so much that whenever he had an orgasm during sex he felt the urge to scream "Mission Accomplished". That comment made me wonder if liberal men make their women shave "down there" because they hate even looking at a Bush, no matter who or what it is.

"So spouting off about an accused murderer without all the evidence being released is now "responsible journalism"?"

That wouldn't be.

Since you made the assertion, when was the last time Keith Olbermann ran a story without all the evidence? In fact, the last time that could come close to this, he dropped that story.

Whatever dj, if it helps you to regurgitate what I already said than be my guest. The Spidey reference was about the famous line "With great power comes great responsibility."

Now, I'll be watching URI-Richmond hoops for a while. If you would all be so kind as to have MKDAWUSS explain what makes Olbermann a "responsible journalist" along with the other crap he loves to ignore that'd be great.

Good point to my question cjflan about why you think Palin should keep her mouth shut, as she does at times put her foot in it, but honestly do you think that the liberal media and especially the ape ruler would not attack her even if she kept her mouth shut?

I remember not to long ago when she had been quiet for months and yet the ape ruler was having a hate fest daily about her simply because of his hate for anything conservative (probably with women in general too). You and I both know that the liberal media doesn't need excuses to attack any conservative, and the woman of the hour just happens to be Palin.

Maybe next week it'll be O'Reilly or Beck etc. but make no mistake, she will be attacked until the day she dies from the hateful left simply because she stands for tradition whether she opens her mouth or not.
If she even appears at any rally for conservatives and just waves she gets attacked viciously, and only God knows about those death threats, (which I'm sure include her family) so to me, to sit back and do nothing is akin to letting the terrorists get their way.

It's all about her ideals which brandishes such hate from the liberals, and just like your attacks on our *friend* wuss, which is more than justified, I feel she'd be much less of a person to just sit back and let herself become a dart board without any response. Matter of fact she seems to be the only one who does come after them with the same vigor that they have for her, and she should be commended for it.

We need a 1000 more Palin's to get this country back to where it once was, and less of the PC politicians, because after all, as I know we both know, it doesn't matter what a conservative says or does because they will be attacked without any proof of what they say simply because they exist. They, and especially so the ape ruler, don't need any material to stir up all their vile hatred. It just is what it is with these liberals, so why not go back at them at every chance just like you do with wuss. You should, and so should she.

"Since you made the assertion, when was the last time Keith Olbermann ran a story without all the evidence?"

Saturday night genius. Olbermann spent his entire night blaming the right wing and Sarah Palin and in the past five days it's been proven he's crazier than an Arkham Asylum patient.

Anything else MKDAWUSS? You have a few things to answer for yourself.

Wuss: "Since you made the assertion, when was the last time Keith Olbermann ran a story without all the evidence?"

Answer: Since he was re-hired at M.S.S.R. at the beginning stages of the Iraq conflict, all the way up until last night. Satisfied?

If you would all be so kind as to have MKDAWUSS explain what makes Olbermann a "responsible journalist" along with the other crap he loves to ignore that'd be great....cjflan

I'm a big hoops fan too cj, but I think when it comes to wuss you are the best to carry that torch. When he says something like...
when was the last time Keith Olbermann ran a story without all the evidence?...it is so hard for me to respond because I'm laughing too much. You're the best at bringing up all the lies both wuss and the ape ruler have told so to me this is your bag.

And wuss, where the hell were you in the 8 years that Bush ran the country? You obviously were on vacation because to say he would have been attacked is like saying we would have dropped the A-bomb on Hiroshima if the Japs don't surrender.

Wuss, you have to at least but a ticket to join the debate. Jesus...

Wolverine, of course they'll still talk about her. Nothing can change that.

However, you can choose your words differently and put others on the defensive. I could be wrong but after the ass whupping Bill O'Reilly gave Paul Krugman Monday night Krugman hasn't responded.

Also Wuss: "Since you made the assertion, when was the last time Keith Olbermann ran a story without all the evidence?"

The fact that all of those celebs and athletes that were dying not too long ago and being declared "Countdung viewers and fans" by The Jingoistic False Murrow without being able to defend themselves from that accusation is another blinding example.

"And wuss, where the hell were you in the 8 years that Bush ran the country?"

Wolverine, if my math is correct MKDAWUSS was wondering what those little hairs popping up on his chest were. Which means when he was old enough to get involved in political discussions he just believed what Olbermann told him.

But since we're on a Bush kick, responsible journalists don't scream YOU ARE A FASCIST! GET THEM TO RPINT YOU A T-SHIRT WITH THE WORD 'FASCIST' ON IT!" at the top of their lungs.

Of course MKDAWUSS probably thinks responsible journalism is not lying.

It is far more than that.

Responsible journalism means using credible sources.

Responsible journalism means professionalism.

Responsible journalism means not donating to political campaigns.

Responsible journalism means non-partisan coverage.

Responsible journalism means not injecting yourself into the story.

Responsible journalism means everything Keith Olbermann is not.

ryder won't like this, but tomorrow will the first day since MKDAWUSS said Olbermann was a "responsible journalist".

Sorry guys, I had another one with the sources but I guess it got lost in the shuffle.

I cited the recent Neville chair lie, the Murdoch "fat, not facts" lie, and the lie about O'Reilly not having any correspondents from Haiti on his show. You can grab them for yourself.

I also forgot to add that responsible journalists don't call people stupid for making typos on Twitter.

I agree cj, and this will be my last comment on this, as I am usually 100% in agreement with your posts, but I think what you are saying is that if Palin choosed her words more carefully than there wouldn't be such a *fire storm* that surrounds her whereever she goes, and to this I also agree, but I'm just saying although she might not be the most articulate person she is a strong conservative who has had it up to *here* with all the lies spread about her, and that she should respond to them.

Maybe if she had someone like the late William F. Buckley to shadow her whenever she makes a statement she'd be better off...Nah! they'd still come after her. Enjoy the URI-Richmond game while I'm waiting for the TNT NBA doubleheader...

"Responsible journalism means professionalism."

Headlines for his Countdung stories: Turdblossom, Electile Dysfunction, President of All Media, Cheney's Death Squad, Teabaggers mount protest, Town Mauls, etc.

Yep, that is the type of professionalism The Real Edward R. Murrow that would really be proud of.

'I agree cj, and this will be my last comment on this..."

Why? It's good stuff.

Anyway, no, the criticism will never go away. If she wants to take on the media she's got to do a better job handling them. Period.

And I'll add the one lie that bothered me the most from the thousand lies he's already told, and also the poorest example of any journalist I've ever heard about, and that was the one where he declared on his Special Komment where Senator McCain was worse than the terrorists simply because he said if he was elected President he would get OBL.

Now this wasn't the ape ruler's opinion, as he stated very clearly for almost a half hour that he was WORSE than the terrorists. Now think about that wuss for a moment: A Vietnam prisoner of war hero for almost 5 years who refused to leave his men after the Viet Cong said he could go, who went through the worst physical torture one can imagine through all those years so as NOT to abandon his men, and your sick cowardly ape ruler called him WORSE than the terrorists.

Now I ask you: was that what a responsible AMERICAN journalist would have said? Even more to the point, where was his *evidence* that McCain was WORSE than the terrorists? Let's compare: 19 foreign terrorists get unto 3 planes and are responsible for killing close to 3000 innocent American civilians (not to mention the other hundred or so attacks the terrorists have done around the world) while the other is is an American war hero who gave up his body and mind to be with his men for five long horrible years, and HE'S the one who is WORSE than the terrorists?

*Responsible* *Journalist* and *Evidence* are three words that do not belong in your hero's vocabulary, but I'll tell you three words that are evident every time he opens his mouth: *Hate,* *Lie,* and *Un-American.*

J$'s update for tonight wondered if Olby was in the tub. He is.

MKDAWUSS, let me dumb this "responsible journalism" thing down so even you can understand it.

Let's take an easy example. The story is "Sarah Palin said 'boo'". This is what a responsible journalist writes/talks about:

Part 1: Sarah Palin said "boo".

Part 2: Why Sarah Palin said "boo".

Part 3: Critics don't like that Sarah Palin said "boo".

Part 4: Others were ok with Sarah palin saying "boo".

Part 5: If relevant, the effects of Sarah Palin saying "boo".

What is included is facts and the two sides of the argument.

What is not included are name-calling, baseless accusations, insults hurled at family members, and most importantly, LIES.

Now does any of this ring a bell with you? Of course not. You read what you want to read and hear what you want to hear.

And for any jackass who wants to take a shot at me for doing this during the game I have the following to say:

1. It's halftime.

2. I own a radio.

"Now this wasn't the ape ruler's opinion, as he stated very clearly for almost a half hour that he was WORSE than the terrorists. Now think about that wuss for a moment: A Vietnam prisoner of war hero for almost 5 years who refused to leave his men after the Viet Cong said he could go, who went through the worst physical torture one can imagine through all those years so as NOT to abandon his men, and your sick cowardly ape ruler called him WORSE than the terrorists."

Don't forget how he sleazily slimed John McCain with that "Breaking News Story" that he had to be separated from a female staffer because of sexual allegations from an anonymous source.

Tell us WUSS what evidence Olbermann had on Saturday night to accuse right wingers of inciting the shooter?

From Ann Coulter's latest column:

Of course, to make their case, they first must demonstrate:

(a) Right-wingers have called for violence against anyone, especially conservative, pro-Second Amendment Democratic congresswomen;
(b) Loughner was listening to them; and
(c) Loughner was influenced by them.

http://anncoulter.com/cgi-local/printer_friendly.cgi?article=405

Alright MKDAWUSS, which of those did KO have?

"Since you made the assertion, when was the last time Keith Olbermann ran a story without all the evidence?"

Clearly this question was rhetorical.

Or, maybe MKDAWUSS went to double-check his "honest" and "credible" sources over at Kos and Media Matters so he could "discern" the information himself/validate his opinion.

Good one Carlos. That list is getting bigger every time you open your mouth.

Idiot liberal: get_a_grip, I didn't know Ann Coulter's time as a racist right-wing hate mongering bitch made her qualified to tell us what makes a case.

cjflan32: It doesn't. Her time in private practice and as a law clerk however, does.

"Since you made the assertion, when was the last time Keith Olbermann ran a story without all the evidence?"

To be honest, one could say since January 27, 1959 all the way up until yesterday.

just so im clear in my feable blond head M.S.S.R = U.S.S.R correct?

Lost in all the scuffle is this:

At 6:41 p.m. eastern time MKDAWUSS called Keith Olbermann a "responsible journalist":

"And have you noticed the difference between the two? One went away quietly and the other refuses to. I'm sure if George Bush made comments like Palin frequently does, responsible journalists like Olby would be calling him out as well."

At 6:57 p.m. eastern time I asserted that Olbermann's comments Saturday night were not ones of a "responsible journalist":

"So spouting off about an accused murderer without all the evidence being released is now 'responsible journalism'?"

TO WHICH MKDAWUSS REPLIED AT 7:05 P.M. EASTERN TIME:

Wait for it...

Wait for it...

Wait for it...

"That wouldn't be."

Ladies and gentlemen, MKDAWUSS has finally admitted the truth on the record. And all it took was his usual contradictory idiocy.

Thanks MKDAWUSS. I'm gonna tell all my friends that I heard that Keith Olbermann is not a "responsible journalist" from a true blue (no pun intended) Countdown fan.

"Thanks MKDAWUSS. I'm gonna tell all my friends that I heard that Keith Olbermann is not a "responsible journalist" from a true blue (no pun intended) Countdown fan."

But I never said that. I said that he was a responsible journalist.

"At 6:57 p.m. eastern time I asserted that Olbermann's comments Saturday night were not ones of a "responsible journalist":

"So spouting off about an accused murderer without all the evidence being released is now 'responsible journalism'?""

That example you provided isn't an example of responsible journalism. My question that followed asked when Keith Olbermann asserted that notion.

You also have gone from "suggested that Keith Olbermann ran a story before gathering all the facts" to "confirmed that Keith Olbermann ran a story before gathering all the facts" in a retroactive application.

When Olbermann makes an opinion, there's bound to be a handful of verifiable facts that he cites to back up why he said what he said.

"When Olbermann makes an opinion..." STOP.

Responsible journalists don't share their opinion. They share the facts and let the public decide.

That's twice you've proven that Olbermann is not a responsible journalist. You're only burying yourself now WUSS. Quit while you still can.

"just so im clear in my feable blond head M.S.S.R = U.S.S.R correct?"

ILduckkiller, I had a particular name for MSNBC that people on this site objected to because ot the language......MS*T. I believe it was when all of the socialism talk came to light with Crazy Larry admitting he was a socialist was when I decided to change MSNBC to M.S.S.R. in honor of Josef Stalin, Crazy Larry's idol. It was the perfect name for a network that promotes communist propaganda, all of the time. Then when The False Murrow layed into Obama for caving to the republicans, and claimed that the Federal Government had the right to seize all wealth from both the living and the dead in regards to the death tax, he had just admitted Communism should the purpose of this Obama-led Government.

And to think not that long ago there actually was an East and West Germany. I wonder if you could actually find one of those globes from Social Studies elementary classes from the 1970s or 80's. How much would they be worth now?

"They share the facts and let the public decide."

Which he does. He also sticks to the facts. He reports and analyzes. The only time he brings his opinion into things is when he does one of his Special Comments.

What did you just say?

"The only time he brings his opinion into things is when he does one of his Special Comments."

That is now the third time you've admitted he is not a "responsible journalist". What part of "responsible journalists don't share their opinion," is not clear?

As for your more ridiculous assertion that "he also sticks to the facts,":

-I didn't realize it was a fact that Michelle Malkin was a "mashed up meat-bag with lipstick".

-I didn't realize it was a fact that John McCain was worse than a terrorist.

-I didn't realize it was a fact that Carrie Prejean had surgery to change her gender.

-I didn't realize it was a fact that the Tea Party was a bunch of "tea-bagging rednecks".

-I didn't realize it was a fact that James O'Keefe needed permission from his parole officer to go to CPAC.

-I didn't realize it was a fact that Michelle Bachmann "broke serious laws".

-I didn't realize it was a fact that Bill O'Reilly was a bigot.

Can you prove any of these comments with facts? Can you prove any of the comments you ignored tonight with facts?

I didn't think so. Keith Olbermann is not a responsible journalist. If you don't believe me take it from MKDAWUSS. He proved it three times tonight.

Wuss: "They share the facts and let the public decide."

Point-Counterpoint is supposed to be how the public decides an issue. That is what O'Reilly does. He presents the issue. Then he will have a guest on that is to one side of the spectrum to discuss it. Then he will have on a person from the opposite side of the spectrum. Not in The False Murrow's case. It is skewed all to 1 political side of the spectrum. He will have 1 person on from the left to mostly agree with democrat talking points, then he will have on someone from the far-left to say that they are not going farther to the left. Then there is alot of conservative bashing, mostly from pseudo-anonymous and "responsible, credible" sources like Media Matters, the Center for American Progress, Think Progress, The Tides Foundation (Junk Anger's favorite).

"And to think not that long ago there actually was an East and West Germany. I wonder if you could actually find one of those globes from Social Studies elementary classes from the 1970s or 80's. How much would they be worth now?"

Loks like less han $100.00 on ebay. Ill go halves with you we send it to keith to remind him of the world as he wants it. Have o remeber USSR was in full swing then also, mabye make up and overlay of the US calling Peoples America or something

Being fro the Peoples Republik of Illinois I feel obligated to help.

"He also sticks to the facts."

This is how low Olbermann will go to lie.

FACT: There is no 35 and younger TV demographic.

OLBERMANN: “Ours is the highest rated cable news program viewers 35 and younger and the highest rated cable news program for all viewers not on Fixed News,”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/olbermann-attacks-oreilly-personally-glenn-beck-has-his-back/

You'll also note the quote about Olbermann saying O'Reilly was abused by his father. Is that a fact too MKDAWUSS?

I got all night MKDAWUSS. Enter The Dragon is on and AMC adds a lot of commercials.

Let's play "Predict What MKDAWUSS Will Say"!

MKDAWUSS: "Keith didn't say those things about Prejean and the Tea Party."

cjflan32: "I know. Musto and Garofalo did. And their bullsh*t. A 'responsible journalist' would have called out such erroneous comments as lies."

so then this is true also? "Olbermann continued last night describing the FNC audience as “tinfoil hatters, conspiracy theorists, paranoids and racists,”:?

"Let's play "Predict What MKDAWUSS Will Say"!

MKDAWUSS: "Keith didn't say those things about Prejean and the Tea Party."

cjflan32: "I know. Musto and Garofalo did. And their bullsh*t. A 'responsible journalist' would have called out such erroneous comments as lies."

And yet, The False Murrow sat back and bobbed his head in agreement to that hateful hyperbole.

Olbermann only injects his opinions when doing one of his "speshul Komments"

I CALL SHENANIGINS AND BULLSHIT BY WUSS

Olbermann only injects his opinions when doing one of his "speshul Komments"

I CALL SHENANIGINS AND BULLSHIT BY WUSS

djwolf, let it go bro. MKDAWUSS finally confirmed what we already knew.

He ignored all those comments about lies and insulting comments and went straight for the opinion argument.

Don't take it out on me WUSS, I didn't make the rules of journalism.

http://www.journalism.org/resources/principles

1. Journalism's first obligation is to the truth.

We proved Olbermann doesn't adhere to the truth multiple times in this thread. MKDAWUSS ignored those examples. Not my problem.

2. Its first loyalty is to the citizens.

This includes the “tinfoil hatters, conspiracy theorists, paranoids and racists” who watch Fox News. He doesn't respect those who don't watch him so that's 0-for-2.

3. Its essence is discipline of verification.

This involves asking about opinions you may not agree with. ON A REGULAR BASIS. Journalism 3, Olbermann 0.

4. Its practitioners must maintain an independence from those they cover.

" In our independence, however, we must avoid any tendency to stray into arrogance, elitism, isolation or nihilism." Another fail.

5. It must serve as an independent monitor of power.

Do we have a winner here? Depends on which political party is in power. J$ recently commented on that regarding the lame duck Congress. Since Olbermann only acts like a watchdog when George Bush is president, this is another fail.

6. It must provide a forum for public criticism and compromise.

Don't see too much compromise on Countdown. F*** conservatives, end of issue.

7. It must strive to make the news significant, interesting, and relevant.

Railing on people like Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin is neither enlightening or important. Batting donuts here.

8. It must keep the news comprehensive and proportional.

"Inflating events for sensation, neglecting others, stereotyping or being disproportionately negative all make a less reliable map." Couldn't have described Olbermann better myself.

9. Its practitioners must be allowed to exercise their personal conscience.

"Every journalist must have a personal sense of ethics and responsibility--a moral compass. Each of us must be willing, if fairness and accuracy require, to voice differences with our colleagues, whether in the newsroom or the executive suite. News organizations do well to nurture this independence by encouraging individuals to speak their minds. This stimulates the intellectual diversity necessary to understand and accurately cover an increasingly diverse society. It is this diversity of minds and voices, not just numbers, that matters."

Olbermann clearly doesn't have a problem voicing his own opinion. He just doesn't want to hear anyone else's.

There is a tenth principle but it applies more to the viewer/reader than the journalist, or in this case, Olbermann.

Feel free to challenge these principles MKDAWUSS. I know you cannot, but that never stopped you before.

There is no such thing as "opinion journalism". It is an oxymoron.

I challenge anyone to dispute this.

"There is no such thing as "opinion journalism". It is an oxymoron.

I challenge anyone to dispute this."

The best oxymoron I ever heard was smart gym teacher.

Opinion Editorial. Where people like the smelly ferret write all kinds of nonsensical pap that people don't read because we are too smart.

By mkdawuss said:
“When Olbermann makes an opinion, there's bound to be a handful of verifiable facts that he cites to back up why he said what he said.”

You do know what your citing is know as “the lie of omission”, right?

Example
A few years back (1999) there was a series of churches that were in the south, over 100 African American were burned to the ground.

IF that was all the info reported, one would have to conclude the 100 church fires were due to racism.

In fact that was how the story was reported and most concluded the 100 church fires were due to racism.

The “the lie of omission” was the fact that 260 churches were burned to the ground.

The 160 churches were many white.

Suddenly the obvious Racism was no longer, “obvious”.

The church fires had nothing to do with Racism.

That is how “the lie of omission” works, it's a propaganda tool.

“there's bound to be a handful of verifiable facts”

A handful of facts, as the story above shows, is classic propaganda.

It's not Jurnolisum
It's not “opinion”
It's IS a lie!

"But, she decided to interject herself (which is different from someone like Olbermann injecting her) and say something as stupid as "blood libel". Now it's another week of Palin-bashing which puts her in defense mode. AGAIN."

Strange when did "blood libel" become soooooooooo offensive? Especially on MSNBC

Couldn't have been December 19, 2000 MSNBC's Chris Matthews

"Kemp used the term on the December 19, 2000 edition of "Hardball," while he and Matthews were discussing why so few black Americans actually voted for Bush. In that exchange, Kemp lamented as "blood libel""

Couldn't have been 2006 when MSNBC's Chris Matthews

Mike Barnicle used the term in reference to Sen. John Kerry having been criticized by a group of Vietnam War swift boat veterans.

"The problem for Kerry here is that two years ago, Joe, he did not talk like that when he was undergoing a blood libel by the Swift Boat people. If he had stood up two years ago, in July of 2004, and looked into the cameras with the same intensity he showed today on this issue and said."

Me think this criticism is a little on the fake side!
So why is "blood libel" is a stupid thing to say?

"So why is "blood libel" is a stupid thing to say?"

So because Newsbusters told you MSNBC used the phrase twice in the past ten years my criticism is on the "fake" side.

First, I never said it was offensive. I said it was stupid. Maybe you should keep track of your own arguments.

Why is it stupid? Sarah Palin is getting slammed for using "violent rhetoric" that led to a shooting spree and what does she do? She responds using the phrase "blood libel", which, if you haven't been paying attention the past couple days, has put her stalkers in attack mode and her friends in defense mode. Good job Palin. Liberals in the media could turn the word "pie" into violent rhetoric and you gave 'em a phrase used in the past to rip Jews. What'd she think was gonna happen?

Since I already know where this is going I should cover the bases now:

1. For the millionth time, I never said she didn't have the right to make a statement.

2. If she thought responding was the right thing to do then that is her choice. I am arguing what she said.

3. If she wanted to make a statement she should have called out her detractors by name with evidence of their "blood libel". That way when the inevitable criticism comes said detractors have to be careful about bringing attention to her statement.

4. Yes, they're going to attack her anyway. For more on this refer to the above statement.

5. Paul Krugman accused Bill O'Reilly of the same stuff. What did O'Reilly do? He annihilated Krugman Monday night. Same thing with Beck. I had places to be at that time but the five minutes I caught Monday saw him trash Markos and his crotch stain of a Web Site that encourages people like MKDAWUSS to be idiots.

Why is this relevant? After almost two and a half years of this crap Sarah Palin has yet to learn to play ball with these far left clowns. Eventually it could have a very negative effect on the public when it matters, like, say, the next Presidential Election?

Is that clear enough for you Dschoen? Or am I still coming off as fake?

I agree with you, CJ. And making "Hannity" your first interview since the shooting does not help your image. She could have gone to "The O'Reilly Factor," "On the Record," or "Fox News Sunday," but she had to choose a softball venue. Overall, I like Sarah Palin, but she can be very frustrating. Why did she have to say "blood libel"? She can't do anything right. (I'm not being sarcastic. Every word of this paragraph was sincere.)

Olby Week in Review

The OWiR reveals I need to make corrections:
1) The segment with Giffords' second cousin had nothing to do with "blood libel [Ding!]", but the next segment did.
2) Keith was figuratively in the tub last night, but literally out with stomach flu, which he admitted toward the end of Wednesday's show. Even though it's a relief when he isn't on the air, I hope he gets well soon.
3) The equally far-left Sam Seder filled in for him.

I am just still baffled at why the Media is just going apesh*t over the word Blood Libel and always trying to whip up anti-semetic rhetoric. Well documented examples are within the media itself about their open hatred towards Israel, and against Jews in this country (Rick Sanchez and Helen Thomas of recent). Perhaps Der Kommissar was told by the bosses at Comcast that he needed to Excuse himself from last night's show based on all of the hateful things he had said in the past. Oh, and the whole stagewalking intro with him holding the O'Reilly mask while giving the Nazi Salute must make Wuss say that he was being a "responsible journalist" for doing that.

'2) Keith was figuratively in the tub last night, but literally out with stomach flu, which he admitted toward the end of Wednesday's show. Even though it's a relief when he isn't on the air, I hope he gets well soon."

Calling in sick is also his favorite excuse for going to Yankee games too. I remember he was out during a pivitol Yankees game in the playoffs in 2009 (which he was blogging for MLB). That happened to be the night that he and Maddow condemned Bush Sr. for his "Sick Puppies" comment. The False Murrow phoned in to Maddows' show and she said get well soon and he did a pseudo cough. See, He can't even tell the truth about illness.

Thanks Mike. One thing I've learned from playing ball with people like MikeH, MKDAWUSS and the nimrods at TVNewser is that you have to watch how you speak to them. Don't give them an inch or they'll turn it into a racist remark.

"And making "Hannity" your first interview since the shooting does not help your image."

I didn't know that. That's a brilliant move. Go on the show where the host believes everything you say and nods in approval. Isn't there a dude we like to critique who does that type of stuff?

"I am just still baffled at why the Media is just going apesh*t over the word Blood Libel and always trying to whip up anti-semetic rhetoric."

Because they're hypocrites. That's why.

I'm listening to Paul Shanklin's song spoof of Sheriff Dunkik. It is absolutely hilarious. The song is a spoof titled "I'm not a sheriff". Paul Shanklin is a national treasure.

I just heard Rush's dialogue on how Liberals are blaming global warming on the collapse of the Roman Empire. He questioned how long it will take liberals to blame global warming on the AZ shooting after their current theories will all go to hell.

*Dupnik*

I must disagree that the "blood libel" comment was stupid. I think the only people who will be offended are as intellectually dishonest as the media figures claiming the shooter was incited by rhetoric. In other words, only people who had no intention of voting for her as a presidential candidate in the first place will be affected by the comment.

As for her using the term in the face of all this criticism, her message is that such language does not result in violence; she's just being consistent and not bending under pressure in my opinion.

The only reason I didn't like it because I knew that every Palin hater on the planet would go after her.

Mike they will anyway, like they do Rush, O'Reilly, Beck, Coulter, etc. no matter what she says. Remember this all started simply because she used a term that had nothing to do with actually shooting these reps. The libs will always twist and lie to make their point, and especially the ape ruler, so to worry about what she has to say in her defence is not the issue, but WHY they always falsely attack any strong conservative leader is really the issue.

As was stated above by some of the posters these terms that she has used had already been used by liberals, and yet...silence.

I think the article by Coulter was excellent and said it all. Conservatives using a metafor...HORRORS!
Liberals using a metafor...what's the big deal.

This has been going on since I was in school back in the late sixties, and I wondered then why is there such a double standard and nobody saying anything about it, and it's only gotten worse.

The only difference now, as opposed to back then, is that there are actually people out there who have had enough of it, and are saying and doing something about it which the libs never had to deal with before. They have finally realized that they have to come up with facts to back their vile attacks to support their sick agendas, and we all know how that's going.

Palin, will NEVER win over the sick degenerates that call themselves liberals, but she may win over the middle of the road crowd who also may have seen and heard enough of the lies thrown out by the likes of media matters, Kos, and our own ape ruler himself.

Yes, she's frustrating at times, but man the conservatives have been so weak for so long that maybe the time has come to stop worrying about what the libs think after she says something, and say the hell with them. They've done nothing but disrupt this country with their lies and fake agenda's so why not ask for more Palin instead of less.

The only thing I trully fear is for her life, because unlike these metafor's thrown out by both sides that seem to only rile up the nut libs, these same libs are not throwing out metafors when it comes to their hatred for her. They mean it.

"The only reason I didn't like it because I knew that every Palin hater on the planet would go after her."

THANK YOU MIKE.

Are Mike and Wolverine the only ones who get this? She put another target (whoops) on her back because she couldn't pick better words to make her point.

She could have trashed Krugman. And Olbermann. And Andrea Mitchell. And Markos. And everyone else who tried to pin this crime on her. That would have put THEM on defense and they would have ignored the statement, taken it so far out of context it would have hurt them instead of her, or, in Olbermann's case, make a smartass remark that would have translated "F*** you Sarah".

But she didn't. She chose to say something that could very easily be seen as inflammatory and now the liberals have another excuse to piss on conservatives and the Tea Party.

"In other words, only people who had no intention of voting for her as a presidential candidate in the first place will be affected by the comment."

If she runs for President you might as well tell the Obama's they don't have to move until Inauguration Day 2017. I think you're overestimating her popularity.

From now on "blood libel" is now going to be attached to her and every single candidate she endorses. It doesn't matter anymore if it's taken out of context. Now she owns it.

It's another egg laid by the liberal's favorite golden goose.

"Yes, she's frustrating at times, but man the conservatives have been so weak for so long that maybe the time has come to stop worrying about what the libs think after she says something, and say the hell with them."

In my opinion she's more useful going around the country igniting the flames of conservatism than being a politician.

"The only thing I trully fear is for her life, because unlike these metafor's thrown out by both sides that seem to only rile up the nut libs, these same libs are not throwing out metafors when it comes to their hatred for her. They mean it."

Are you kidding? Like any of these liberals have the balls to directly challenge a woman holding a gun.

Today is Friday! I am on the verge of getting out of the slum known as Obamaville! Time to Celebrate!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brpub0hTbjs

If this doesn't make you atleast smile for 4:08 minutes, oh well I tried.

I don't think I'm overestimating her popularity, I'm just confident that the American people are not a pack of idiots as does Bill Maher. What I have found in talking with liberals is that they do not believe the BS they hear about the right because they are watching the wrong news channels, but rather that they WANT to believe it. In arguing with them it becomes obvious they know there is no logic in what they believe but they're in denial. This is what Palin is up against; so I say she needs to do what feels right and what she thinks the people who are nonpartisan in their reasoning will accept.

It's just like when liberals blame Fox News when public opinion is not on their side. FNC is not that powerful, it's just that the country is not that dumb.

Are you kidding? Like any of these liberals have the balls to directly challenge a woman holding a gun....cjflan

Ha! So true!...

"... I'm just confident that the American people are not a pack of idiots as does Bill Maher."

We, the American people, elected a man with zero experience with questionable ties that said he's been to all 57 states. I don't think that qualifies us as Bill Maher dumb, but it's not far off.

You don't want to hear this get_a_grip, but Sarah Palin is no longer a politician, she's a celebrity. We've already elected one celebrity and as of right now it hasn't worked out that well.

You guessed it, Olby is taking a four day soak (maybe five if he takes off MLK day)! So no thurber, no Thurber-Free Video of the Week. So, I'll post my weekly wrap up now.

Get out the DVD player, put in the prison disk and have Rachel lock the doors to 30 Rock when Rachel (and Crazy Larry) clean up the MSNBC offices. IT'S THE WEEKEND! Looks like we made it. See you guys monday or tuesday, and as usual.... Let's be careful out there.

Cause the left is in a hunting mood (INSENSITIVE!)

Going to watch Criminal Minds!

Der Kommissar is the only white guy I have ever seen take a 5 day weekend to celebrate MLK day. I can only think that he wants to show Jim Clyburn, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Eugene Robinson, etc. that he is down with the struggle.

Irony: All those mentioned (minus The False Murrow) were working yesterday, today, and most likely be doing some kind of work over the weekend.

Actually, I think this is a more logical explanation as to his "calling out sick": Either The False Murrow has tickets to the Jets/Patriots game at Foxboro, or he is going to be stalking Rex Ryan's wife, hoping to get get sight of, touch and get a big a whiff of her feet.

I've been waiting for someone in the media to make this statement and Charles Krauthammer finally did it ob PBS' "Inside Washington". Sarah Palin should have NEVER HAD TO make a speech about the Tucson shootings. Not one single solitary shred of evidence linked her to the shootings and if Olby (and the other far left loons) had just waited a few days they would have learned that Loughner didn't watch TV news or listen to public radio. He had no interest in politics and wasn't right or left wing. HE WAS MENTALLY ILL, that's it.

Why did her name come up? Those that mentioned or linked her name (that's means you, Olby) are the ones that need give their audience an explanation of why they decided to smear Sarah Palin without any evidence AND if they have any journalistic integrity APOLOGIZE for their unwarranted remarks.

I won't hold my breath.

'Why did her name come up? Those that mentioned or linked her name (that's means you, Olby) are the ones that need give their audience an explanation of why they decided to smear Sarah Palin without any evidence AND if they have any journalistic integrity APOLOGIZE for their unwarranted remarks."

You see MKDAWUSS? Responsible journalists don't link someone to a murder without evidence.

Oh, that's right! You proved to everyone here Thursday night that Olbermann is not a responsible journalist. Johnny Dollar should put you on payroll.

Thank you for bringing that up brad. I saw that this morning and thought "Wow. If it wasn't for the liberal media's attempted character assassination (whoops), none of us would have had that Palin conversation this week."

Lets have some fun. Do you know how to annoy a liberal male? Tell them they are obsessed with Sarah Palin so much they must be in love with her.

Do you know how to piss off a liberal woman? Tell her that her husband is obsessed with Sarah Palin, and you know because he told you so.

If they just so happened to be married to each other, just sit back and enjoy watching 2 liberals get into a fight over a lie.

SOUND FAMILIAR?

Watch/read this idiotic exchange:

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/01/15/pat-buchanan-smacks-down-bill-press-you-ve-got-get-beyond-being-fring

Pat Buchanan: "Look, you’ve got to get beyond being a fringe talk show host, Bill."

Bill Press: "You’re a fringe TV talker."

Hell of a comeback Bill.

Anyway, you'll note that when Buchanan tries to bring up far left hypocrisy he is told that he is not here to talk about that. Of course not.

On Twitter, Keith Olbermann linked to a Democracy Now interview with one of the survivors of the shooting. The survivor, Eric Fuller, made the statement: "It looks like Palin, Beck, Sharron Angle and the rest got their first target"

Keith Olbermann accompanied the link with the statement: "I think he of all of us has the right to say this: http://bit.ly/gt430h Democracy Now interview w/Tucson survivor who names names"

Why is that relevant? Because Eric Fuller was just arrested for making death threats at a town hall, and was involuntarily committed to a mental health facility.

Olbermann's first Tweet:

"I think he of all of us has the right to say this: http://bit.ly/gt430h Democracy Now interview w/Tucson survivor who names names"

Olbermann responded:

"Fuller had the right to make his initial remarks. When he escalated to an actual threat, there was no option but arrest & no defending him."

Now all of a sudden there's no defending him.

Is this the "responsible journalism" you were talking about MKDAWUSS?

"Keith Olbermann accompanied the link with the statement: "I think he of all of us has the right to say this: http://bit.ly/gt430h Democracy Now interview w/Tucson survivor who names names"

He is acting like the fat kid that just found the cookie jar his mother hid from him (speaking with metaphors; liberals hate metaphors, just ask Zell Miller and his 2004 interview with Screwball after the RNC.) The False murrow just can't help himself when it comes to a good piece of libel against a group of people with whom he disagrees.

"Fuller had the right to make his initial remarks. When he escalated to an actual threat, there was no option but arrest & no defending him."

He broke the jar after taking 15 cookies and now has to be shamed for eating them (but The Hefty One feels no shame. I have looked into his eyes. He is pure Evil).

Has anybody in the media been so wrong so many times while always being one step behind with every story he covers? God, his prejudices show no bounds, as he is still waiting for that one time where he'll finally get to say "I told you so," but as of yet (after so many years of trying and lying) he's never hit lightning. He reminds me of the dogs in the dog races who chase the rabbit so feverishly thinking this will be the first time they actually catch up to it, but alas fail every time.

Here's your biscuit Fido. Maybe next time. Good dog...

If he weren't arrested, that Fuller guy would have been championed by the far left next week. If you follow the initial link that Keith gives to the Democracy Now interview, you can tell he's a far left nut.

Keith was going to use him as a human shield. Let him say all the nutty things Keith wants to say, and if anyone criticizes him or his claims it's "Hey man! He's a victim of the shooting! You are attacking a victim!"

Keith's intellectual dishonesty on display yet again. And, of course he has a right to say it. But the fact that Keith tries to pass it off as credible, for no reason other than the guy got shot, is stupid.

The Hefty One's TWITter nonsense of the day:

@leducviolet I don't think Bill has time for anything but football and hoodie shopping
10 minutes ago via Twittelator in reply to leducviolet

@jregan11 you do realize mine is the highest rated cable news show not on Fox, right? So people who push the bad ratings meme are liars
about 3 hours ago via Twittelator in reply to jregan11

@brengel23 Hey, we all change. Heath Shuler is now throwing his interceptions in Congressional football games (wish I were kidding)
about 3 hours ago via Twittelator in reply to brengel23

@ecgc1004 Dear Moron: took picture during commercial break. Please try walking and chewing gum simultaneously.
about 3 hours ago via Twittelator in reply to ecgc1004

@Rabban1 none really. Once sat with Belichick throughout a banquet and he was funny, gregarious, thoughtful.
about 3 hours ago via Twittelator in reply to Rabban1

Put your feet up and relax for awhile, Wes.
about 4 hours ago via Twittelator

.Foot-in-mouth disease claims Welker, I guess.
about 4 hours ago via Twittelator .

Wow. Wes Welker not starting for Pats after playing footsie with the Rex Ryan story
about 4 hours ago via Twittelator

@richeisen Thanks. Nice commercial, Friend. Mine at least gave 'em a sandwich with their soda.
about 4 hours ago via Twittelator in reply to richeisen

.@NoelSheppard: a) Didn't Ms. Palin explain all acts like these?: "They begin and end with the criminals who (cont) http://tl.gd/86iq6r
about 6 hours ago via TwitLonger Beta

Fox Haters Week in Review

http://tinyurl.com/4k4blv5

@jregan11 you do realize mine is the highest rated cable news show not on Fox, right? So people who push the bad ratings meme are liars
about 3 hours ago via Twittelator in reply to jregan11

While factually correct, being beat by Bill-O, 4 to 1 one a good night, isn't anything to crow about.

syvyn, If you read the postings starting from the bottom and read upward, the stupidity of the False Murrow is astonishing.

My favorite is that he thinks he is getting one over on Rich Eisen over a commercial. Hey douchebag, Rich Eisen atleast didn't burn his bridges at ESPN like you did. He works for the NFL network. You work as the chief Guttersnipe at M.S.S.R., trying to appeal to the lowest common denominators that don't watch Fox News, you know, THE BIRTH TO AGE 35 KEY DEMO!

BTW, in that commercial he was in he tod a skinny model to eat something! Wasn't that way back in 1997 or something? Wow it has been 14 years or so since this asshole did a commercial and he wants to put himself in the league of the NFL big shots. Uh, NO! YOU SIR, ARE A LIAR.

CALGON, TAKE HIM AWAY

And he claims he sat with Belichick at a banquet, calls him "funny, gregarious, thoughtful". Then Bashes him with the whole football and shopping for hoodies comment. Der Kommissar, just because he likes to look like a homeless person masquerading as an NFL coach during a playoff game is his business, not yours. You look like a giant Bartlett Pear and when you look down in the shower you can't see your junk. Oh that's right, you prefer the bath. You need to fold up your fat rolls and grab a pair of tweezers.

Yesterday at TVNewser someone told me that "bull's-eye" is not violent rhetoric because no one has tried to kill a Republican with a bow and arrow.

You can't make this stuff up.

"Yesterday at TVNewser someone told me that "bull's-eye" is not violent rhetoric because no one has tried to kill a Republican with a bow and arrow."

Again, the left is typically moving the goalposts and re-drawing the line in the sand after all of those liberal conspiracy theories and PYCHO TALK has all gone to hell.

2 "observations" from Saturday night's Packers vs. Falcons game. I wonter if Der Kommissar will provide insightful commentary on these:

1) With all of that red and black flag waving in the Georgia Dome, an observer might just wonder if the South was getting ready to rise again.

2) The Green Bay Packers fans, yelling out KUHN when he scored a touchdown against the Falcons, not once BUT TWICE!!!! The first thing I thought of was, Oh S*it, they just threw some red meat to Der Kommissar of the Birth to age 35 demo. ON MLK WEEKEND, in MLK's state, in the city where MLK is interred. THE RACIST GREEN BAY PACKERS FANS, THE WORST PERSONS IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!

Are the Green Bay Packers Countdown fans?

I was waiting for Troy Aikman to say "Look at that Kuhn go!"

Any Star Wars fans here? Jedi Master Plo Koon? For some reason he's never referred to as Master Koon.

Wow, that was offensive.

"Are the Green Bay Packers Countdown fans?"

The deceased ones are.

"I was waiting for Troy Aikman to say "Look at that Kuhn go!"

I was waiting for Joe Buck to say it. Then Joe Buck would be in trouble, and The False Murrow would rally the Age Birth to 35 Key demo to grab their Pitchforks and Torches and go after Buck. Well, in the mind of the Hefty One, that would be one way of getting someone off of Fox.

BTW, did anyone notice how the CBS team was skillfully and subliminally using their wording during the broadcast to take shots at Rex Ryan? My favorite was when the jets narrowly got a first down, Jim Nance said: "He got the first down BY A FOOT"!!!!!!

From Keith Olbermann's Twitter, a grammatical error:

"you do realize your talking about 1866, right?"

I believe that is supposed to be "you're"...If someone has a Twitter page, I figure what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Keith is the guy who likes to insult the intellect of those who make grammatical errors.

"@Rabban1 none really. Once sat with Belichick throughout a banquet and he was funny, gregarious, thoughtful.
about 3 hours ago via Twittelator in reply to Rabban1"

I want proof of that banquet! I want to know the year it occurred, what it was for, who was there, valet receipts and with full transcripts and photographs, and eyewitnesses that The Hefty One AND Bill Belichick were together at a banquet. Wussy and M-Sh*tty, get on this pronto!!!!

Olberdork at a banquet with Belichoke? Are we sure he didn't steal the seats, like he accused O'Reilly of doing last month at a banquet?